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Memphis Posted on 01/12/2008 22:44
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Has this been in the papers anywhere?


Memphis Posted on 01/12/2008 22:50
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Surely it made your local rag, there were enough eye witnesses.

kazza Posted on 01/12/2008 22:52
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here


Link: .............

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 01/12/2008 22:53
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heard he knocked foookkkk out of 20 jawdeesss

Memphis Posted on 01/12/2008 22:57
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Disgusting.

Must be honest I thought it was one of those myths to get at away fans.

Was it definately NUFC fans who assaulted him?

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 01/12/2008 22:59
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dont know but hope he makes a speedy recovery,..

wheelz Posted on 01/12/2008 23:01
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I was told @ RS tonight that the lowlife responsible for the unprovoked assault has now been identified, has had a visit from Northumbria Police, and will be getting a banning order from NUFC.

MFC are hoping the old chap will press charges too..

Memphis Posted on 01/12/2008 23:04
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Hope he makes a full recovery.

The T***s that did this should get locked up.

'Northumbria Police'. Sounds like it was one of us then.....coonts.

fishface101 Posted on 01/12/2008 23:11
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The Cleveland force said the area would have been busy with supporters at the time, and have appealed for witnesses.

from what i have read since saturday there shouldnt be a problem finding any as it would seem it was witnessed by quite a few

maybe also getting onto the gazette & letting them know that this was pointed out to plod more than once & they did nothing whatsoever one or two posts on sunday suggested that plod even saw it happening

as far as i'm concerned this sums up the scum who did this be they S***ty handed jaw-dees or not although it doesnt surprise me about them at all wouldnt dare have a go at anyone who could possibly hit them back

they all run back to there mummys if anyone ever did at the end of the day there mummys are the real hard ones in jaw-dee families

dickheads

Linny Posted on 01/12/2008 23:59
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Watch you don't trip yourself up back tracking there Memphis.

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 00:01
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You are the dickhead for tarring everyone with the same brush.

Deplorable, hope he gets sent down for it.

Have you proof all Geordies hit people who can't defend thamselves then fishface?

A Boro supporter would never do that, would they?

Grumpy_Paul Posted on 02/12/2008 00:05
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The Cleveland force said the area would have been busy with supporters at the time, and have appealed for witnesses.

From what I've read on one or two threads on here the area was busy with police at the time. I'm normally supportive of the police but what the fook were Cleveland's 'finest' doing at the time

Linny Posted on 02/12/2008 00:05
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What was your take on the paedo chants thomson?

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 00:26
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As I've said for years, they are disgusting.

See our board.

karembeu_ca Posted on 02/12/2008 00:28
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an idiot minority, every club has them.

NortonExile Posted on 02/12/2008 07:23
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"Police are appealing for witnesses"!!!! Is that a joke". I'm a young lad who pointed out to the copper on the horse next to the underpass what had happened only to be told sarcasticly "like you know what your doing". Disgraceful. He was concerned with people pushing in the underpass queue. I said the other day what is the point of the police been there if they are unwilling to get involved. I'd be a witness for the guy but i'm afraid what'll happen to me if i also point how how awful and appalled i was with the police. Scandelous!! No wonder people have no confidence in the police no more!!!!!

Billy_Goat Posted on 02/12/2008 07:37
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The police saw everything!! There were two coppers stood watching it all on the embankment and they stood there and did nothing.

I must admit it all happened really fast, like 20 seconds or so. It was on the main road to the station not the underpass.

Three geordies kicked off for no reason and one started on the old bloke.

Before you realised what was going on it was all over.

I hope the Geordie who did this gets put away. Scum like him shouldnt be walking the streets.

Justino Posted on 02/12/2008 07:39
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Has anyone else noticed that it is always 'somebody else' when you ask a Jawdee about the peado chants.


Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 07:58
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I am not back tracking at all you dick.

If it happened it is a disgrace.

What surprises me most? The fact that so many people on here saw it happen and did nothing.

Why did nobody intervene if there was only 3 of them??? Lots of comments now about what people would do to them, why did they not do it at the time???

Billy_Goat Posted on 02/12/2008 08:12
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People did intervene!! As soon as the old bloke was attacked boro fans dragged the geordie of him. The other geordies got a pasting of the boro fans.

The whole thing happened mate. I saw it.

It was sick!!

Simple fact is, you've got some vile, scumbag fans supporting your team.

Listening to football fans shouting pedo chants at famillies and THEN beating up a pensioner just blows my mind. In thirty odd years watching football I've never seen anything like it.

MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 08:13
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"You are the dickhead for tarring everyone with the same brush.

Deplorable, hope he gets sent down for it.

Have you proof all Geordies hit people who can't defend thamselves then fishface?

A Boro supporter would never do that, would they?"

What a ridiculous counter argument and to be expected from a Geordie tbh.

Thompson Mouse, if a Boro poster came on your site and posted what you have they would be banned.

I have been to St James many times, been called a paedo to my face and watched him run off, been spat on and then watched the scum run behind a police cordon so I couldn't get to him.

Keep to your own board you thick chunt, you're doing a good enough job of F***ing it up.





Cogeur_le_Conq Posted on 02/12/2008 08:18
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"I am not back tracking at all you dick."

Seems like this thread has bit you on the arse.

It's obvious you were suggesting that it was made up by Boro fans and never happened because it hadn't been publiicised.

It's not the fault of the 3 jawdees but it's the fault of any Boro fans that witnessed it.

There was a least one Boro fan who witnessed it. A 75 year old.

You lot always try to defend the undefendible.

Why didn't your fans stop the your other fans?:

1. singing RACIST chants
2. singing peedo chants
3. attacking OAPs


Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 08:20
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Where have I defended it?

I have admitted that I thought it was one of those mythical tales about opposing fans. It obviously is not.

I have said that it is a disgrace. Don't let the facts get in the way of yout bitterness though.

Bigbilly Posted on 02/12/2008 08:31
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As a general rule Geordies are a bunch of vile cowardly scumbags.




Muttley Posted on 02/12/2008 08:37
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If everyone could just get off their high horses. There are plenty of scumbags support MFC. What THESE PARTICULAR GEORDIES did was despicable and cowardly. The singing and behaviour of the travelling fans was revolting (probably worse than last year) but that doesn't mean ALL Geordies are vile thugs. You don't exactly deserve the media tag of "The Best Supporters In The World" though when you behave like that.

In their defence and in contradiction to Marlon's experience I have been to Sid James' on many occassions and had absolutely no bother at all. I can't say the same for other grounds though. Perhaps I've just been lucky?

Manfriday Posted on 02/12/2008 08:43
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What about the families going about their business that had to witness boro fans smashing up the 3 bulls heads pub in the centre of newcastle a few years back? Both clubs have a moronic minority who call themselves 'fans'. Normally young chavs just out of school

The_same_as_before Posted on 02/12/2008 08:47
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Manfriday, this is not about some pub, this is about 3 lads who decide to knock an 75 yo bloke to the ground and kick him.

I don't care about the chants, its what happens, I was once in bother with plod for shouting Scabs at notts county during the strike, I was wrong, But I didn't kick 75 yo bloke.

All clubs have loonies, but stop putting these leads in the same bracket.

MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 08:51
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As most people know I actually work on Tyneside as well.

When I mentioned to some Newcastle fans that they where singing the Mido/Paedo chants again, they giggled.

As a set of fans there are always going to be different types of supporters but generally most NUFC football fans I talk to are thick as mince and inherently racist.

And before you all jump on me, I speak from experience.


The_same_as_before Posted on 02/12/2008 08:56
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Marlon without generalising I work there a lot too, and your right, they look down on ManU as a team not worthy of them.


Manfriday Posted on 02/12/2008 09:10
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Tbf marlon, the richard reid/mido resemblance does make me smile and i even had a quick google search to see if anyone had photoshopped a boro strip on reids picture yet. I do understand that a lot of people who do sing that chant, do it with racist motives(the thick chav/moronic ones). The child abuse chants are just so wrong and not even remotely funny

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 10:07
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There is no counter argument Marlon.

I'm pointing out that yours and others small minded approach to Geordies is embarrassing. Fair enough your opinion may be formed from your experiences, believe me I've seen enough S*** in my time from you lot at both grounds, however, I have met plenty of good people from Boro and certainly don't think that they are all bad like the people I've seen a the match.
It doesn't matter where you are from, be it Newastle, Boro, Manchester, Liverpool etc etc you'll always find someone who is scum.
TBH I can't believe everyone you've met up here is like that

skiprat Posted on 02/12/2008 10:10
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I used to work up in Newcastle and when it comes to football every single Geordie I met was like that.

I appreciate not all are like that but it was a hell of a high percentage that were.

Can I just say the backtrack at the start of this thread is fantastic. [:D]

MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 10:17
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As I said Thomson 'most' not all.

Anyway Thomson, any chance of doing me a favour ?

F*** right off back to your own board.

Linny Posted on 02/12/2008 10:19
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"I am not back tracking at all you dick"

A geordies first line of defence is abuse - how apt. And you clearly are back tracking.

You came on here to try and show Boro fans up who witnessed the assault and bullS***ters. Why on earth would so many people back up the story if someone had made it up.

Common sense lad.

It looks as though you also asked the question on the Geordie board as someone on here has pasted it. Then you come on here looking for an argument and it blew up in your face. Bad luck old bean.

And thomson - no i won't bother with your site if its all the same to you. Not quite the same now is it after all your mates took their ball home and ran crying to a new site?

Bit pointless anyway as if i posted i'd be banned. Haven't bothered with the place for years.

Oh and i ask the question because you seem to allow paedophile comments on there (or you used to) which makes you as bad as those singing/posting it.

I'm sure you didn't sing it though as its always someone else isn't it?

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 10:28
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Not backtracking at all.

I asked if it was in the media so that I could get a grasp of the severity of the attack.

As you will agree some things do tend to get blown up out of all proportion on the internet.

People on here seem to be condoning throwing bricks through pub windows. The pubs were full of people, some I would presume in the same age bracket as the old fella that was unfortunately attacked.

Never mind though, it was only a boozer.....unbelievable.

tomtom2 Posted on 02/12/2008 10:30
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I also work in Newcastle and must say the majority of people are just normal untill you mention football. At this point they turn into mindless biggots who will use racism or any other mindless ways to point out that they are the best and biggest club in the world.

You see this with Thompson he says he condems this behaviour but uses foul and abusive language to defend his mighty club. Sad realy as there are some decent people up here.

MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 10:31
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Why do you and the rest of your brethren feel the need to counter act the argument with the pub incident ?

Just hold your hands up and admit your fans are filthy scum.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 10:32
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"At this point they turn into mindless biggots who will use racism or any other mindless ways to point out that they are the best and biggest club in the world."

How do they use racism to do this?

Could you be using the race card by any chance, you sad individual?

Holgatewall Posted on 02/12/2008 10:34
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I think tomtom has hit the nail on the head here. I have always enjoyed visits to Newcastle and the majority or Geordies I have met have been friendly and helpful, However, if you bring football into the equation all sence seems to fly out of the window.

We should remember though that every club has an element who overstep the mark and bring shame on their club.

rubber_soles Posted on 02/12/2008 10:34
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Truth is when it comes to football, the Geordies stoop as low as they possibly can, and they are proud of it.

tomtom2 Posted on 02/12/2008 10:34
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Memphis. Unlike others i will not be drawn into your world of he said she said. I have made my point and i will stick with it if you dont agree then fine it is just what i see.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 10:36
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Good cop out.

How does somebody use racism to prefess how great their football team is?

You are a liar.

Pogroy Posted on 02/12/2008 10:38
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Your a tit like all your fellow deluded scumbag supporters, P*** off back to your own board

Sea_Harrier Posted on 02/12/2008 10:38
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Memphis wrote, "Was it definately NUFC fans who assaulted him?"

Are you for real, or what? No it wasn't the Skunks, it was the Boro fans. We beat-up our own old men of course, because he was wearing a red and white top.

BTW definately is correctly spelt "definitely".

captain5 Posted on 02/12/2008 10:38
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You have an inherently racist support in terms of vocal expression. I don't see why you have a problem admitting that.

Same is true of some other clubs as well, although thankfully at most clubs it seems to have decreased.

tomtom2 Posted on 02/12/2008 10:39
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As i said my point is just my point. I wont argue with you so now the insults start. I think my first post is spot on and you have just proven it.

MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 10:39
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'You are a liar'

I know tomtom, he's not a liar. One of the most upfront & honest blokes you'll ever meet.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 10:44
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A simple explanation would do, you can not however supply one.

I think you are a liar.

tomtom2 Posted on 02/12/2008 10:50
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Thats fine with me you have your opinion and i have mine.

Unfortunatly for me yours is the only one that seems to count so as i said my first post still applies. Its a shame as if we were talking about another subject you might be a decent geordie.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 10:55
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I find it hard to understand how racist comments can be made to express how great a football team is.

Let me know in what context these racist comments were used.

Is it that hard?

MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 10:56
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I've heard a Jawdee describe his own player as a useless coon.


The_same_as_before Posted on 02/12/2008 10:56
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I cannot understand why people get upset with the peado chants, its what you expect from them.

FFS these people are from a cesspit, they know the subject inside out.

Fat Freddy followed by Cashley, warms the co.ckles.

kazza Posted on 02/12/2008 11:14
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gazette


Link: .............

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 11:17
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That is sickening.

red_rebel Posted on 02/12/2008 11:18
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Thomson's response is the most worrying on here.

To counter a debate about the rights and wrongs of a specific incident (a vicious unprovoked assault on an innocent OAP) by pointing to some other incident in the past (an unprovoked attack on a pub) is not only a cop-out from taking a clear moral stand on this issue, it also inplies that there is some kind of justification for indescriminate tit-for-tat action.

The logic is that "we" did it to "them" so it is understandable if there is some retaliation. That is the hooligan mentality, that it is OK to beat up someone from another town because of a completely unrelated incident in the past.

It is not understandle or acceptable. Fans are not one amorphous mass who have a collective responsibility for each other's actions. To say "the Boro" attacked a pub and to ascribe guilt to every single individual who pledges allegience to the club and then to assume they are legitimate targets is just plain stupid.

To weasel out of condemning these things outright gives tactic support to the thugs and ignorant cretins who use their club as a flag of convenience for their hobby of violence.

The ONLY possible decent response is to condemn these acts of violence unequivocally. Especially if you have some position (like running a fanzine or message board) where it can reasonable assumed you represent the club in some way.

Maybe the 3 Legends and boards like this only show a self selcting group of idiots but I can't believe proud Geordies are not campaigning to rid themselves of the image of willfully ignorant thugs they portray when they visit Boro and Sunderland.






Big_Shot Posted on 02/12/2008 11:18
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Paki Milburn

woodymfc Posted on 02/12/2008 11:20
We are no better.....



Being a genuine lover of football and respecting some great servants within the industry past and present, and disregarding where ever they were born we have a gem of a gentleman in the North East of England who goes by the name of Sir Bobby Robson. What some of our ignorant fans sang about him at St Jame's turned my stomach tbh.

And this beating of an elderly man by lunatic NUFC fans is inexcusable and hope that the persons responsible are exposed to the public and receive a heavy penalty for their crimes.

Despite what TM and the rest of you stupid supposed Newcastle football fans say to defend anything bad you lot do, it is very apparent that we do have genuine hate for each other and this incident cements the mutual sentiments we share that goes back years of open battles between us.

Don't be surprised if a few of you get an unwarented hiding at the return fixture

Linny Posted on 02/12/2008 11:21
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P***ed on your chips, Memph.

The_same_as_before Posted on 02/12/2008 11:23
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RR, I think thats what I said, but without the style.

red_rebel Posted on 02/12/2008 11:34
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Well, you know what we windbags on the left are like for taking two different routes to the same end....

boroproud Posted on 02/12/2008 11:41
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"Sergeant Paul Brodie of Cleveland Police said: “This was a despicable, unprovoked attack on a defenceless, elderly man and I would urge people with information to contact police.”"


Apparently they tried to Sergeant Brodie,but unfortunetly your officers were more concerned with the well being of the freshly cut grass and keeping people in single file.

Why am i not surprised at this response from Cleveland police?


rob_fmttm Posted on 02/12/2008 11:42
We are no better.....

woody that is the last thing any of us want when we go up to Newcastle any warriors starting more trouble. We all know that it is the innocents that suffer.

First of all we want real witnesses to come forward and nail the thugs for this sickening, cowardly attack. Then we need to make sure there are no repeats here or away at Newcastle.

Many years ago I was granted a meeting with the club and the head of security after a Boro v Sunderland game when there was no policing whatsoever on the road between the Riverside and the stadium. There were some Sunderland families quaking with fear at the stadium fearing they would be picked off along the road. We managed through the club to ensure the police changed their tactics after games and patrolled the road. It could be that they need to look closely again at how to seperate the two groups of fans after as well as before derby games to ensure no one either Boro or away fan is placed in jeopardy.

About the chants - once again we call upon fanzines and supporters groups to make a statement of intent against paedophile and racist chanting. Otherwise the FA have to take strong action in banning the Geordie army from travelling away.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 11:46
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"Don't be surprised if a few of you get an unwarented hiding at the return fixture"

Obvously took RR's post in then eh?

Good post RR.

The point I am trying to make is that not ALL NUFC fans are the same. I have not condened these actions and have stated that they are disgusting.

There are a few on here that tar all NUFC fans with the same brush.

When the MFC fans attacked those people on the train, would you like it if I blamed you and said 'you are all the same'.

I think not.

Manfriday Posted on 02/12/2008 11:48
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I agree with you red rebel but what i think memphis and mouse are trying to point out is that some boro fans on here are lumping all nufc fans together after this incident and blaming them as one, which is what your saying we do with boro fans over the pub and train incident. Most normal fans frown on their own fans when these incident crop up from time to time

woodymfc Posted on 02/12/2008 11:50
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Oh look Rob writes to me............LOL

It will happen, we can't stop it and calm down

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 02/12/2008 11:50
We are no better.....

the jawdees are well kmown for oap abuse,didnt it happen in about 20 care homes up ther,,granny bashes,,

MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 11:50
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Memphis you're going backwards faster than the economy.


Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 11:54
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How am I going backwards.

I have condemned this from the start once the facts were made known.

I posted about the trouble your fans have caused to make a point that not all fans are the same.

When you have supported a team for over 30 years home and away and been in no trouble at all, it is not nice when opposing fans label you for an isolated incident by some yobs.

Holgatewall Posted on 02/12/2008 11:54
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When the MFC fans attacked those people on the train, would you like it if I blamed you and said 'you are all the same'.

As has already been said we have always said these people are not representative of real Boro fans. We have always comndemned these people who cause trouble for visiting fans and don't try to cover it up. There is no place for this sort of behaviour in the game.

However, it seemed to me that it was the majority of the Newcastle fans who were chanting rascist remarks at Mido on Saturday and it appears that this has been dismissed by you and other Newcastle fans. But remember, this is the second year this has happened.No knee jerk reaction on this board about this!

I also hope that there is no 'eye for an eye' when the return game takes place game. Two wrongs don;t make a right.


thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 11:55
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Rob - I completely agree about the paedo stuff, it needs to stop now. The Mido stuff is not racist though.


"Thomson's response is the most worrying on here.

To counter a debate about the rights and wrongs of a specific incident (a vicious unprovoked assault on an innocent OAP) by pointing to some other incident in the past (an unprovoked attack on a pub) is not only a cop-out from taking a clear moral stand on this issue, it also inplies that there is some kind of justification for indescriminate tit-for-tat action.

The logic is that "we" did it to "them" so it is understandable if there is some retaliation. That is the hooligan mentality, that it is OK to beat up someone from another town because of a completely unrelated incident in the past.

It is not understandle or acceptable. Fans are not one amorphous mass who have a collective responsibility for each other's actions. To say "the Boro" attacked a pub and to ascribe guilt to every single individual who pledges allegience to the club and then to assume they are legitimate targets is just plain stupid.

To weasel out of condemning these things outright gives tactic support to the thugs and ignorant cretins who use their club as a flag of convenience for their hobby of violence.

The ONLY possible decent response is to condemn these acts of violence unequivocally. Especially if you have some position (like running a fanzine or message board) where it can reasonable assumed you represent the club in some way.

Maybe the 3 Legends and boards like this only show a self selcting group of idiots but I can't believe proud Geordies are not campaigning to rid themselves of the image of willfully ignorant thugs they portray when they visit Boro and Sunderland"

I think you misunderstand RR.

I have already condemned the attack on the bloke on this thread.

I hope they catch them and they get sent down.

What I was trying to do - not very successfully - is to stop the vilification of Geordies on this thread, some of the comments are pathetic.

I'll repeat it again, Paedo stuff has not and never will be allowed on our board.

woodymfc Posted on 02/12/2008 11:56
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How am I going backwards.

Aye its not quite true a statement, after all you have climbed up the table one place to sit at 4th bottom

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 11:57
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"and it appears that this has been dismissed by you and other Newcastle fans"

Where did I dismiss it?

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 11:58
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And you could not beat us at home woody.

Holgatewall Posted on 02/12/2008 12:03
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I haven't heard you comdemn it. I may have missed it.

The problem is going to be that if the Club does ban Newcastle fans then the decent fans ( and there are a lot of decent fans) are going to suffer.I wouldn't like to be at a game with no away fans,however, this rascist stuff must be stopped.

As for the attack on the elderly gentleman i accept that you have acknowledge that this was intollerable.

Capybara Posted on 02/12/2008 12:05
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'I'll repeat it again, Paedo stuff has not and never will be allowed on our board.'

But the Mido stuff will be because it's 'not racist'? Does it have to have a name before you will condemn it?

Linny Posted on 02/12/2008 12:06
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"I have condemned this from the start once the facts were made known"

There is a lesson in there somewhere lad. Get your facts straight before you start claiming that incidents did not take place. IE Your opening two salvos.

Then you will find less need to back track.

And congrats on the draw.

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 02/12/2008 12:07
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hope you fookkinnnggg jawdeeeeeee granny/grandad bashers go the same way leeds have gone ,now go talk ssshhhitttt on your own board,mr mouse are you from norton,...

woodymfc Posted on 02/12/2008 12:08
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And you could not beat us at home woody.
What do you expect with a ten man defense in front of you


You couldn't beat HULL LOL and who have you got in the Cup [:D]

ZappBrannagan Posted on 02/12/2008 12:09
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"Tbf marlon, the richard reid/mido resemblance does make me smile and i even had a quick google search to see if anyone had photoshopped a boro strip on reids picture yet."

Wow, don't miss a trick there Manfriday! Get something worked up over your lunch hour, email it to yer mates for a laugh and by the time 5pm comes around you'll be the coolest wit in Newcastle, and people will buy you pints, and want to shake your hand in the street, and Viz will call you for more cutting commentary. You're gonna be massive this Christmas!

boroproud Posted on 02/12/2008 12:10
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F*** off you tiresome T***. "


"Rob - I completely agree about the paedo stuff, it needs to stop now. The Mido stuff is not racist though.


"Thomson's response is the most worrying on here.

To counter a debate about the rights and wrongs of a specific incident (a vicious unprovoked assault on an innocent OAP) by pointing to some other incident in the past (an unprovoked attack on a pub) is not only a cop-out from taking a clear moral stand on this issue, it also inplies that there is some kind of justification for indescriminate tit-for-tat action.

The logic is that "we" did it to "them" so it is understandable if there is some retaliation. That is the hooligan mentality, that it is OK to beat up someone from another town because of a completely unrelated incident in the past.

It is not understandle or acceptable. Fans are not one amorphous mass who have a collective responsibility for each other's actions. To say "the Boro" attacked a pub and to ascribe guilt to every single individual who pledges allegience to the club and then to assume they are legitimate targets is just plain stupid.

To weasel out of condemning these things outright gives tactic support to the thugs and ignorant cretins who use their club as a flag of convenience for their hobby of violence.

The ONLY possible decent response is to condemn these acts of violence unequivocally. Especially if you have some position (like running a fanzine or message board) where it can reasonable assumed you represent the club in some way.

Maybe the 3 Legends and boards like this only show a self selcting group of idiots but I can't believe proud Geordies are not campaigning to rid themselves of the image of willfully ignorant thugs they portray when they visit Boro and Sunderland"

I think you misunderstand RR.

I have already condemned the attack on the bloke on this thread.

I hope they catch them and they get sent down.

What I was trying to do - not very successfully - is to stop the vilification of Geordies on this thread, some of the comments are pathetic.

I'll repeat it again, Paedo stuff has not and never will be allowed on our board."


So which of YOUR statements are your standing by Thompson-mouse?





MarlonD Posted on 02/12/2008 12:11
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Rob have some balls and at least tell this Thomson character to stick to his own board.


woodymfc Posted on 02/12/2008 12:12
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Thomson_Mouse = Wheresmecargone

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 02/12/2008 12:13
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no mouse hes a rat,,,

Manfriday Posted on 02/12/2008 12:21
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Yep zappbranigan, just like some clever bugga photoshopped a newcastle strip onto the nigerian bloke from phone jacker when it was rumoured nigerian businessmen wanted to buy the club. That was funny as well

woodymfc Posted on 02/12/2008 12:24
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Your club always brings humour

TWoS Posted on 02/12/2008 12:42
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I think the case is now unanswerable for simply banning this puddle of filth from the ground. It may be a few hundred fat imbeciles who lead the racist and paedo chants but the rest join in or grin happily and now, having hit rock bottom by screaming peedo at family men and women with their kids, they've kept digging and found a new low in beating up a 75 year old man in front of his grandchildren. Enough. Ticket allocation next season should be zero and any identified newcastle fan in the ground ejected with exteme prejudice (if they want volunteer stewards I'm in, seriously). We don't have to put up with this and we bloody well shouldn't.

Taking a step back, where does this hate come from? We are continually traduced by them as paedoes, beasts, monsters...this is, without hyperbole, the language of Nazism, of ethnic cleansing, of total war. Why? What was the terrible thing that Teesside did to Tyneside? I never heard about it. Local rivalry is one thing and adds spice to sporting contests around the world, but this is beyond, way beyond. And then they say, "It's not a derby." What is it then, this deep and operpetual hatred? Where's the source?

red_rebel Posted on 02/12/2008 12:42
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Memphis, Manfriday, Thomson...

I am glad there is some common ground in condemning these incidents by yourselves as individuals. Now we need to work on getting some kind of institutional response.

One thing you can be sure of is that if the situations were reversed and it was Boro fans chanting such obscene things is that this board would be now having a fierce debate about the rights and wrongs, that decency would prevail and that Rob would be on local TV and splashed all over the Evening Gazette condemning it in no uncertain terms and the local press would be making it a big issue about 'yobs bring shame on town.'

It concerns me that there is no such reaction from Newcastle and that instead the default position seems to be to defend the actions of the fans no matter what.

Is there no debate at all on the various NUFC boards about this?




joshie Posted on 02/12/2008 12:54
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A suggestion for the people of this board.

Can Rob or the powers that be not arrange some sort of collection from the fans and even the club to treat the grandchildren of this poor fella to a christmas to remember. Given they had to witness such a thing happening to their grandad I think it would help them think of Boro in a better light than their last experience of going to the match. You never know you might even get a contribution from the supposedly decent fans and club up the road.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 12:56
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Not a problem, I will gladly contribute.

Did you have a whip round for the one eyed Chelsea fan? ;-)

joshie Posted on 02/12/2008 13:00
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No I didnt, then again I wasnt around on this board when this other incident took place. I am here now and thought it might be a nice gesture towards some innocent children and an innocent pensioner who have undergone a horrific experience.

Manfriday Posted on 02/12/2008 13:11
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Red rebel, if it was down to me id have halved the tickets we got from last year after last years bother. Everytime there is bother i would keep halving the allocation. But the clubs (both) are too desperate to squeeze every last penny they can and so wont do anything unless ordered to by the FA

Sea_Harrier Posted on 02/12/2008 13:18
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All clubs generally take advice from the local police as to the number of tickets which are to be made available for "away" support. Obviously, in this instance, both club and police believed that they could control 3,900 moronic Skunks, most of whom appeared to be teenage "work-yer-ticket" chavs. There will be changes for the same fixture next season, if the Skunks aren't relegated, which I sincerely hope they are.

Holgateoldskool Posted on 02/12/2008 13:19
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Stepping back a bit I'd like a Geordie follower to answer this.If it is only a minority of fans who shout and sing the crap why don't the majority shout it down?

Fear ? Or the fact that the majority who travel away with the Geordies are like- minded numbskulls???

Pogroy Posted on 02/12/2008 13:24
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Memphis id start a whip around for you to sod off!

Why do you have a hard on over this chelsea fan, do you know what happened, where you there?

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 13:38
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a 75 year old man - I hope the decent Newcastle fans point the finger and those responsible and sort them out


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F*** off you tiresome T***. "


"Rob - I completely agree about the paedo stuff, it needs to stop now. The Mido stuff is not racist though.


"Thomson's response is the most worrying on here.

To counter a debate about the rights and wrongs of a specific incident (a vicious unprovoked assault on an innocent OAP) by pointing to some other incident in the past (an unprovoked attack on a pub) is not only a cop-out from taking a clear moral stand on this issue, it also inplies that there is some kind of justification for indescriminate tit-for-tat action.

The logic is that "we" did it to "them" so it is understandable if there is some retaliation. That is the hooligan mentality, that it is OK to beat up someone from another town because of a completely unrelated incident in the past.

It is not understandle or acceptable. Fans are not one amorphous mass who have a collective responsibility for each other's actions. To say "the Boro" attacked a pub and to ascribe guilt to every single individual who pledges allegience to the club and then to assume they are legitimate targets is just plain stupid.

To weasel out of condemning these things outright gives tactic support to the thugs and ignorant cretins who use their club as a flag of convenience for their hobby of violence.

The ONLY possible decent response is to condemn these acts of violence unequivocally. Especially if you have some position (like running a fanzine or message board) where it can reasonable assumed you represent the club in some way.

Maybe the 3 Legends and boards like this only show a self selcting group of idiots but I can't believe proud Geordies are not campaigning to rid themselves of the image of willfully ignorant thugs they portray when they visit Boro and Sunderland"

I think you misunderstand RR.

I have already condemned the attack on the bloke on this thread.

I hope they catch them and they get sent down.

What I was trying to do - not very successfully - is to stop the vilification of Geordies on this thread, some of the comments are pathetic.

I'll repeat it again, Paedo stuff has not and never will be allowed on our board."


So which of YOUR statements are your standing by Thompson-mouse?"

Pathetic post BP.

That response was directed at mfc1 due to him posting something that has been posted on other threads on the board.

He is a tiresome T*** and not just on that subject.

Shame you didn't post some of my other comments on the other threads.

Still, it wouldn't be like someone from here to change things around to suit their own agenda, would it?

Sea_Harrier Posted on 02/12/2008 13:40
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All Boro fans are tiresome tvvats in Adolf_Mouse's eyes. He is prejudiced beyond belief.

I think he, and Australia, really do deserve each other. An irksome, odious, tosser.

Bukowski Posted on 02/12/2008 13:48
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Let's face it, enough is enough. Ban them.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 02/12/2008 13:58
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Just seen the article on the Gazette site about the fella that was beaten up. I know Tommy Leadbitter as I used to go in the same pub as him as well as playing cricket with his sons (and working briefly at the same place as one of them). He hasn't a violent bone in his body. Lovely bloke. He was one of the crowd that I used to play pool with in the Grove pub.

I urge anyone who saw what happened, or any decent Newcastle fans who might know the cowards who carried this out to contact the police.

zzzzz Posted on 02/12/2008 14:01
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Rob....
"About the chants - once again we call upon fanzines and supporters groups to make a statement of intent against paedophile and racist chanting. Otherwise the FA have to take strong action in banning the Geordie army from travelling away."

How many years has it gone on and how many years does it have to continue before they're banned?

The same "lets see and wait" bollox goes on every year. They need banning NOW.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 14:03
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Why do you have hard on over this chelsea fan, do you know what heppened, where you there?

It's on video.

Were the judge and jury wrong?

Not condoning it are you?



Pogroy Posted on 02/12/2008 14:12
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no im not condoning it at all but its been dealt with, whereas this hasnt, like i posted earlier its a shame it wasnt you who got a slap as you come across at a complete tit trying to turn everything away from the scumbags who did the attack onto things that have been dealt with in the past! Tosser!

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 02/12/2008 14:15
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all i can say is ffffooookkinnnggg cowards and sshiiittthouses,iam sure ther must of been a few younger boro fans ther who they could of picked on,but no hit a old man, from behind aswell kicked him while unconscious,then ran away,,big hard jawdeesss,probably went back up to sshhittthoussee land and bragged about it,bring them back up here and let the fellas family fettle the sssshhittthousses...

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 14:15
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OOOOOOhhhhhhhh


Touchy.

Pogroy Posted on 02/12/2008 14:18
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What are you 5 years old? Just like the mental age of your fans really

TWoS Posted on 02/12/2008 14:23
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"what heppened, where you there"

Is he trying to write in geordie?

Pogroy Posted on 02/12/2008 14:28
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no just rubbish spelling

boroproud Posted on 02/12/2008 14:47
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"Pathetic post BP.

That response was directed at mfc1 due to him posting something that has been posted on other threads on the board.

He is a tiresome T*** and not just on that subject.

Shame you didn't post some of my other comments on the other threads.

Still, it wouldn't be like someone from here to change things around to suit their own agenda, would it?"
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Erm ok will this do?

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The first post is an utter joke, posted by a self righteous, hypocritical tosspot, not to mention paranoid- editing links - tit.

The P**** stuff IS a disgrace and as I've said before, it needs to stop NOW.

The Mido stuff is utterly pathetic, it's got F*** all to do with his race or religion, only his likeness to Richard Reid.

Any Boro fan posting on here without condemning the OP's bath snatching stuff, is a hypocritical prick.

F***ing self righteous tossers. I don't see any you going mental on FMTTM when someone posts about bath snatching.

Arseholes. "

you see i've been looking through the threads on your board,and tbh they isnt that many,and i cant find ONE post by you condemnming those that hit the old fella!Yes you have mentioned the racist chants but only because your trying to qualify your 'mates' comments.

The only retort you seem to have is to swear at abuse Boro fans.

Oh and i havnt posted your post about the "self righteous half wits".

Your all sweetness and light when on FMTTM,but back on your own board is a different kettle of fish.

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 02/12/2008 14:52
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yep we could all post about the 10 years goings on of the abused old age pensioners in the 20 run council homes but we dont cos we are good people us boro fans,,,,mose only comes on here cos ther is no ffoookerrr to talk to on his sshhitthouse board...

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 15:13
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You just have posted it you dimwit.

boroproud Posted on 02/12/2008 15:14
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erm no i havnt?


Theres a lot more to it than that.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 15:15
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I was talking to bigrichard

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 02/12/2008 15:16
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well i didnt mean to,...

boroproud Posted on 02/12/2008 15:19
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OK let you off then.

Memphis Posted on 02/12/2008 15:20
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Thanks God for that.

I would never have slept tonight.

boroproud Posted on 02/12/2008 15:25
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I know,thats why i said will let you off.

karembeu_ca Posted on 02/12/2008 15:27
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is mouse STILL trying to say the chants werent racist? and still trying to keep up his dual identity as well? sad.

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 15:28
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So you could post that without the original post which was:

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What gives newcastle fans the right to shout abuse about P***s and the people of middlesbrough. i bet most of you dont even know what it is in reference to. you are extremely out of order, people take thier kids to the match and shouldnt have to listen to that. you are a bunch of racist, nazi, hate filled people. Banter is ok but you are out of order, Singing about Mido, you backwards idiots - do you have a brain? Do you not watch the news, innocent people are dying from terrorism everyday but you think you can take this P***. what would happen if you played mumbia or new york, what would you sing then?! are all your players white and english? - exactly you thick rednecks. im suprised you dint sing about the falkans war to arca or WW2 to Huth. Youy should be banned from football grounds and sent to the streets up your way, where the snatch kids from the bath in winter,
absolute idiots, you are the thickest people in england and everyone takes the P***, you are a national joke. if any of you thickos at the match today have kids, they should be taken off you.

Link: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_67


I'd repeat exactly what I'd said on our board again about that disgrace

boroproud Posted on 02/12/2008 15:28
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not only his dual identity,but his dual opinions too!

Sea_Harrier Posted on 02/12/2008 15:59
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Slimy chap this Adolf. Posts absolute vile about Boro on the Skunks website and sickly supportive when on this site. Hypocracy personified.

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 16:40
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What vile and what dual identity?

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 02/12/2008 16:42
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do you know why mousey is always on the boro board,,,,,,,,its cos the jawdee board is full of PUSSYS,,,,

Sea_Harrier Posted on 02/12/2008 17:04
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Adolf_Mouses favourite Boro descriptions, only posted on the Skunks sanitised board, are:

* mutants
* toxics
* 12 fingered
* two headed
* chemical brothers

I won't go on. Hence my opinion of hypocrite.

12_Afonso Posted on 02/12/2008 17:09
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Geordies are scum when it comes to footy. I used to live in Byker and was walking back from St James Park , I had a Boro shirt on but before I left the ground Id made sure Id tucked it all round and zipped my jacket up, so Im walking along, get to the middle of the road waiting for a car to pass, when thump, some fat F***ing geordie just smacks me in the side of the head, he jumped around in front of me for abit acting like a C***, then smacked me again and ran off with his mates.

What would he have done if Id have turned around and went, (cue geordie accent), "its an england shirt you daft C***". Unbeknownst to me a bit of my shirt at the bed had came out.

He may have been bigger than me but Id knack him 1v1. Faggot.

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 18:27
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I have NEVER used the phrase "chemical brothers".

The rest is right though.

Pogroy Posted on 02/12/2008 18:32
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your an arsehole

Sea_Harrier Posted on 02/12/2008 18:36
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That's an insult to aresholes, as they at least have some use.

thomson_mouse Posted on 02/12/2008 19:02
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Strange, I thought you liked banter?

Sea_Harrier Posted on 02/12/2008 19:07
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Why don't you just leave us alone you tedious, odious apology for a man? You've shagged one board don't do the same to this. Goldby should have sacked you months ago.
Bugger off back to where banter is banned and Only Skunks are allowed.

redwurzel Posted on 02/12/2008 20:42
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Interesting point made about where all their venom comes from - considering we are not one of their rivals. (according to them)

I would suggest jealousy - how would you feel if York City finished above Boro every year?

jimstewart Posted on 02/12/2008 21:07
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im probably gonna get slagged off to buggery here but nevermind. Ive got mackem and geordie mates and deep down we are all the same. This hatred would never be there but for football and if someone from outer space read some of these threads they would think the F***ing lot of us were out of our minds.

scooby Posted on 02/12/2008 21:08
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jim, you are right.

FoamHands Posted on 02/12/2008 22:03
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"""I cannot understand why people get upset with the peado chants, its what you expect from them.

FFS these people are from a cesspit, they know the subject inside out.

Fat Freddy followed by Cashley, warms the co.ckles."""

Nah its actually Middlesbrough that's the number 1 cesspit in the UK. Its official too [:D]

About that old man, how many witnesses was there, cause there only seems to be what the grandkids say. were the lads who attacked the old fella wearing Newcastle tops? Did they intentionally attack the old man, or did he get knocked over.

I reckon its probably a stitch up.

scooby Posted on 02/12/2008 22:19
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"About that old man, how many witnesses was there, cause there only seems to be what the grandkids say. were the lads who attacked the old fella wearing Newcastle tops? Did they intentionally attack the old man, or did he get knocked over."

Well it was reported on here on the same night by people who had seen it happen.

sixtyniner69 Posted on 02/12/2008 22:31
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in this incident what exacttly did the police do or fail to do as would seem to be the case

Cogeur_le_Conq Posted on 03/12/2008 07:51
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Maybe any witnesses would be better to contact the journo cos and evidence that the police allowed this to happen will be buried straight away.