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Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:02
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I need indipendant witnesses from anyone who witnessed the trouble with the west ham fans where only boro fans were arrested. I was one of the fans arrested for trying to defend myself and ended up being seriously assaulted by the police on eaglescliffe railway station. The police smashed my face off the station shelter breaking my nose causing injuries to my mouth and serious bruising to my body. Me and my friends are facing serious charges for just defending ourselves can any witnesses who complained on the train about the police brutality used please come forward .....Many thanks Dave (Roady41)

PoetLaureate Posted on 04/11/2008 18:04
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Have you tried to get a copy of cctv from station[?] Before the police happen to lose it.

parmoandstella Posted on 04/11/2008 18:08
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In what way were you defending yourself ?

NedKat Posted on 04/11/2008 18:10
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Good luck with this, Dave. The police often overreact and cause serious harm to the innocents.

Why were West Ham supporters, on their way to Bishop Auckland ?

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 04/11/2008 18:10
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Sounds worse than the 123 from Pelham train [:D]

Do you think the rozzers ell laff at that one ?

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:10
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Aparently there is no cctv from the station or the train thanks Roady

PoetLaureate Posted on 04/11/2008 18:11
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amazing that we live in a cctv society but it never actually works when one needs it to.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:12
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Switch trains at Darlington to change for london....Thanks

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 04/11/2008 18:13
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Nedkat- the police often overreact [:D]

u sure about that ?

can see this site getting closed down with all this bill overkill [:D]

A.C.A.B.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:16
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They assaulted my 20 year old son there were about 30 to 40 of them when i tried to get him out of it they all started on me as well but there were only 4 of us we were all arrested and no west ham fans were apparentley off duty rail police who were sitting with them say the 4 of us started on them.

slipshod Posted on 04/11/2008 18:17
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C****ney W*****s, i hope you get this sorted mate.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:19
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I have had my season ticket since the ground opened and prior to that at ayresome park and it looks like i could loose it because of this.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 04/11/2008 18:21
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I love the smell of BACON in the morning

Coont on breakfeast duty only had fooking frosties


And when i said i don't want sugar in me fooking tea

i mean it you securior throwback

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:22
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I am not exactly what you call a front line hooligan i am nearly 47 years old and and am not exactly lenox lewis

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:25
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I defend myself that anyone who had there son on the train and got assaulted would not try to intervine to try and stop it and thats all that i am guilty of.

TurnbullsCans Posted on 04/11/2008 18:29
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Surely the train has CCTV on it (unless it is one of those old style)?

What evidence are they using to prosecute you? I assume the West Ham fans aren't bringing charges so what's the basis for the charge?

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 18:32
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Why would an off duty plod say you started it if you didn't?

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:33
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was an old style train they say and had none neither did the railway station they say a woman said i started it and then said the same to my mates that she saw each of them start it this is total bull S**t

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:35
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one of the off duty plods had a serious C****ney accent said from Durham leave it with you.

TurnbullsCans Posted on 04/11/2008 18:37
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As long as the 4 of you have exactly the same account of what happened, how can they take the word of one woman over the 4 of you?

Are any of the Hammers fans involved? If not, I can't really see how they can realistically expect to win the prosecution. No chance of winning it means the CPS advise not to press ahead with it.

MKredleaderOne Posted on 04/11/2008 18:37
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You'd have thought the police would have been appealing for witnesses on the tv, radio and in the papers.

"They assaulted my 20 year old son there were about 30 to 40 of them".

A couple of things, fisrt, how can 30 - 40 of them have a go on a train. Second what caused them to have a go?

I was on the earlier train and 7 of em were spouting off about the town, the people and the club. Complete bits of butter

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 18:39
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Looks like you're fkd.
Also looks like the plod gave you a real good working over smashing you're nose and serious bruising.
Someone must have seen it....

Hoof.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:42
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Plenty of people saw this and quite a few wanted to make a complaint but the police were not wanting to take any details of people whe wanted to complain about them.Thats why i am asking for indipendant witnesses.....Thanks

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 04/11/2008 18:42
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Definately no CCTV at Eaglescliffe station so hardly a stitch up. Go to the Station and visit the construction site. They will have a security guard on and he might be able to help as a witness.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:45
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Go to the station and look at all the blood off me near the shelter and you will find out that i definately got it but there was no blood on the train off me

twoshots Posted on 04/11/2008 18:45
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You might also want to check with the cab firm at the station - usually someone hanging around outside having a fag.

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 18:46
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You need to produce a flyer Roady explaining what happened and asking for help.

Get on the same tome train next week and fro the next 2 or 3 home home games and hand them out.

Maybe even do a reconstruction.

Liddle


will

help

with

the

Claret.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:50
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I cant say too much more but i just need people to keep this post going and try to get some witnesses. Thanks to you all i will keep reading and if anyone can come forward i will gladly leave my phone number with the site for them to contact me........Dave (Roady41)

Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 04/11/2008 18:54
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WAsn't there an earlier thread with a slightly different version of events?

Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 04/11/2008 18:54
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WAsn't there an earlier thread with a slightly different version of events?

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 04/11/2008 18:55
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Wa there an earlier thread with a slightly different version of events?

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 18:55
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Please give me the thread

kazza Posted on 04/11/2008 19:02
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did you mean this thread


Link: .............

Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 04/11/2008 19:08
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Thats the one.

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 19:11
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Roady?

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:13
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Thanks for the link allowed me to give our version as boro fans.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:19
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When interviewd seperately all accounts were exactly the same.

scooby Posted on 04/11/2008 19:24
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So these people just walked up to your son and started attacking him and you tried to stop it?

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:27
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I suffer from arthritis and have had 2 heart attacks and am classed as a disabled supporter i would never start any trouble not well enough to fight myself.

sasboro1 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:30
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Surely with all those witnesses on the train at the time of the incident they would have arrested the right people?

GoodoldKO Posted on 04/11/2008 19:30
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A long shot, Roady, but you could try posting on the West Ham boards. There could be one or two on there who are human enough to back your version of events .

Good luck. I hate it when stuff like this happens.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:31
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One of my mates got arrested for complaining that i needed a medic after the assault the police charged him with the same and he never even threw a punch in defence was just complaining about the blood and injuries left to me.

12_Afonso Posted on 04/11/2008 19:34
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Scooby, you say it like thats an unlikely thing.

Ive been hit in the face twice from behind for absolutely no reason, when leaving a football ground before. Absolutely 100% unprovoked.

joshie Posted on 04/11/2008 19:34
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Good luck, though I think your in the sh.it, the paid government thugs that are our police are corrupt, bully boys and if they want to fit you up you are going to need some.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:36
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I think that we were arrested because it was easier to arrest us 4 rather than try to arrest the west ham fans too many of them and by coincidence there had to be plain clothed OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS SITTING WITH THEM WHAT A COINCIDECE OFF DUTY!!!!!

jaxxon80 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:38
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What offences have you been charged with and when are you at Court?

GillZean Posted on 04/11/2008 19:38
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I think it's more undercover than off-duty...

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 19:40
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If the undercover plod said Roady and his mates kicked off the WH fans the plod that arrested them are hardly gonna treat em with kid gloves.

Don't get me wrong, if the plod think they've got a cast iron assault case they'll produce a bit of 'claret' to make things look more tasty.

Once has police dog chain wrapped around my lugs.... "for no reason".

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:40
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Bailed until December 1st

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:43
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The only clarret that could be produced was mine all over eaglescliffe station and as i say none on the train i was told even the conducter wanted to make a statement in my defence about the S*** the police did to me.

GillZean Posted on 04/11/2008 19:45
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Find out who he was and get a statement from him then.

It can't be too difficult.

bevoboro Posted on 04/11/2008 19:46
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So why arent you looking for the conductor who wanted to help you out? Thats where i would start.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:47
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I have got my solicitor trying to find out who the conductor was and trying to get the information from british rail but the coppers all work together i am hoping that he comes forward and makes a statement.

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 19:47
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Gillzean
Did your mate witness the assault on Roady and his son?

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:50
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It was my son who was assaulted gillzean but i had other mates on the train who witnessed it but i am trying to get people who do not know me otherwise the police will say that these are saying this because they know me

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 19:52
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Someone must have seen the police clatter me i think about 100 must have!!!!!!

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 20:08
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Do you think would start on 30 or 40 of them just 4 of us.

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 20:17
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Yes if you were guilty (and I'm not saying you are) and desperate for a fellow boro fan or fans to back up your story.

Gillzeans mate said some older boro fans started on some younger WH charvers without realising that there were loads of other hammers kicking around.

That sounds like the the undercover plod story as well.

Good luck Roady. You need it.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 20:23
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Neither me or my son have never been in trouble before off police in our lives so work it out and form your own opinion i bet they all have?

manhead Posted on 04/11/2008 20:27
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Roady......I've been wrongly accused before and faced serious charges. Its a total nightmare....my life was on hold for nearly a year. You gotta do as much digging yourself as you can. Find the conductor yourselves, try and get as many witnesses as you can. give the taxi company a ring who sit opposite the station(station cars - 01642 791991), they might be able to help. Get the same train, same time next sat and ask about...people often make the same journey. Yo gotta do stuff like this to clear yourselves. If the others are lying then their stories won't add up and the CPS will kick it out.

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 20:34
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i always get the same train to the games anyway and i have even been given my season ticket back off the police and my solicitor has even asked for the custody suite cctv footage to be seized as i was booked in with no apparent injuries although being covered in blood at the minuite these are allegations but it still does not eaze the worries.

GillZean Posted on 04/11/2008 21:05
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No, my mate was on the train with me.

He is a West Ham STH. He heard from other West Ham what is meant to have gone on, hence why I was asking.

zzzzz Posted on 04/11/2008 21:13
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How did it start Roady?

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 21:22
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My son was sat in front of one of their fans a young one who hit him around the back of the head when he went to stand up and turn around to find out what happened a load started on him then i went to try and stop it and they startd on me as well and the rest is history

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 21:23
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i knew they were all west ham you dont need a degree too see that

Roady41 Posted on 04/11/2008 21:31
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i had nothing against west ham fans travelled on the train from newton aycliffe with some myself and we had a god bit of banter with them too

HolgateEnd Posted on 04/11/2008 22:01
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Take photos of your injuries and go back to the train station and take photos of the blood. Then make a counter-allegation against the police for assault.

9 times out of 10, unless they have unbreakable evidence (i.e. cctv) that you were guilty of causing the trouble and then fighting with the police leading to them having to use excessive force to arrest you, they will drop the charges.

At the end of the day, the police are just over-paid, under-worked hooligans who need a uniform, a big stick and back-up to make themselves feel good about smashing people's heads in. We saw the same at Sunderland last season and the time before that, and see it countless Saturday nights up and down the country.

I hope you get the C***s sorted. Good luck.

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 04/11/2008 22:18
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'At the end of the day, the police are just over-paid, under-worked hooligans who need a uniform, a big stick and back-up to make themselves feel good about smashing people's heads in'

Now there's some good objective, unbiased advice for you!

Aurora Posted on 04/11/2008 22:20
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its true tho.

Theyve lost the trust of the public.

Oh and they all have small willies

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 04/11/2008 22:25
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Jesus, they must all be genetic freaks, what with their small willies and flat feet.

Aurora Posted on 04/11/2008 22:26
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yep

Tanya_Towers Posted on 04/11/2008 22:29
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watch what ya say, me da says the OB watching this board

TurnbullsCans Posted on 04/11/2008 22:31
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When you were being booked in they should have asked if you wanted to see a doctor if you were injured. Did they? This is something they have to ask you.

Which custody suite were you taken to? If its the new one in Middlesbrough, all CCTV will be digital and your solicitor should be able to get a recording of it. The booking in process is also recorded (audio and visual) so the issue of whether they asked if you wanted to see a doctor is easily checkable. The issue here is whether they have followed due process with your detention.

zzzzz Posted on 05/11/2008 12:02
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Hoof for the daytime crew.

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 18:55
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I was never asked if i wanted to see a doctor in fact i was booked in with no apparent injuries, my solicitor has asked for the custody suite footage to be seized and even after complaining and wanted to see a doctor i ended up only seeing there own nurse who i only think is a first aider. My wife phoned them and told them that i needed my medication urgently as well every two hours and even said she would bring it through and i was still left without medication as well. I am not bothered if the OB read this as it is true anyway and what more can they do to me than they have already done i have made my complaints about this to the proper authoroties but am still looking for indipendant witnesses anyway and i have 4 of them up to now. Thanks to you all who have helped but still the more the better.

tconthewing Posted on 05/11/2008 19:02
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good luck roady
coppers = bunch of C***s (FACT)

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 05/11/2008 19:04
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Did you go see the security guard at Ealescliffe Station? A lad I know on that job said the security guard saw it going off on the platform

Brotton Posted on 05/11/2008 19:21
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Roady, my nephew is a fully qualified nurse and he does some shifts at the new nick.

I think he said they are employed by Reliance.

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 19:22
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i will try and find out cos the only bother going off on the platform was the OB giving me a smashing cheers Rodney will try this avenue.

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 19:25
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Do you have any idea how i can try to get hold of anyone from this security firm rodney any phone numbers Etc

fez80 Posted on 05/11/2008 19:27
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The station does have cctv


Link: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/E

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 05/11/2008 19:28
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I would just go to the site office they will have the details of which guard was on at the time. The taxi office will have some witnesses too I imagine

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 19:30
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The police say not my solicitor has had this with them must be one of the rare stations without????????

zzzzz Posted on 05/11/2008 19:38
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"My Solicitor this my solicitor that."

FFS. Get your arse off the seat and do something for yourself.

Get out to the train station yourself, find out whats there yourself. Go back to the booking in desk at the plod yourself.

Take fotos.

Ask questions.

STOP RELYING ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Get a grip. If you are innocent go out and prove it YOURSELF.


Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 19:39
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Thanks fez just tried that site and it says the station is covered by cctv printed all this out and will pass it on to my brief great stuff just hope it is on camera now or the cameras are working someone is telling lies here.

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 19:48
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzz am on the phone to national rail myself at the moment they are checking the information and going to let me know i live 25 miles away from ealescliffe thats why i cant drive back and forth all the time.

karembeu_ca Posted on 05/11/2008 19:58
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good luck roady.

some of the crap that gets spouted about the police on here is stupid, petty, and ridiculous, but as with any profession, I am sure there are a minority of bad apples. if they were abusive, they deserve to be treated just as anyone else who broke the law. yes, it is VERY tough job, but no excuse for what you describe.

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 20:00
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karembeu_ca thanks pleased someone has a bit of respect for what i am trying to do here

tconthewing Posted on 05/11/2008 20:02
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tough job my arse

zzzzz Posted on 05/11/2008 20:02
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Absolute bollox.

On just about every point you've made as part of your story someone has come up with an answer for you. CCTV in the station. CCTV at the plod booking in desk. And now its too far for you to drive (25 miles) to check it out for yourself!!!! WTF!

Add that to the story posted on here before yours about some older boro 'fans' kicking off with some WH charvers and backed up by undercover plod..... ????

I see it two ways. Either you are not guilty and as dim as fk (in which case I apologise) or you are and in desperation are using the board and real boro fans to try and get off.

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 20:04
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zzzzzz total bollox you dont seem to know what you are talking about WTF

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 20:06
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zzzzzzzzz 25 miles for me is 50 both ways and it is much easier to try and get some details off here phone numbers or whatever it all helps me as my phone books are not even from teeside they are Durham and Wearside here.

karembeu_ca Posted on 05/11/2008 20:07
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tcon, you are just embarrassing yourself now, i'd quit while you're behind.

zzzzz Posted on 05/11/2008 20:09
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Its not witnesses you need roady its....

Miss Marples
Ironside
Columbo
Bergerac
Poirot
Sherlock
and Morse.

Roady41 Posted on 05/11/2008 20:11
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you are probably right im only pleased you are not on the jury or a magistrate

tconthewing Posted on 05/11/2008 20:57
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if you say so k
your blinkered naive opinion is in no way embarassing

tconthewing Posted on 05/11/2008 21:02
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k if you ever want to enter the real world give me a shout and i'll see if i can get you in

Aurora Posted on 05/11/2008 21:18
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give the guy a break will you. Him and his son get done over by the law, come on here asking for help - not unnatural as its a boro fan board.

If youd read the post R41 isnt the fittest and running around all dsay - he [probably has a job to do as well - aint feasible - its ok for you doleys who have nowt to do but appear on jeremy kyle but its hard for him.

If youve got nowt positive to say then say nowt,,.

Id love to help R41 - but I wasnt there and cant. I hope he gets sorted and gtets justice - I really hate the police state were turning into.

A while back if I saw a copper getting attacked Id have gone to his aid. Now Id just walk on - Im a white middle aged Englishman - theyve alienated me and my type so much I have no faith in them

Roady - I hope all prevails well for you.

karembeu_ca Posted on 05/11/2008 21:25
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is that the real world, where cyber big-shots like yourself wouldn't do half what the police do for twice the pay they get? sad.

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 05/11/2008 21:33
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'A while back if I saw a copper getting attacked Id have gone to his aid. Now Id just walk on - Im a white middle aged Englishman - theyve alienated me and my type so much I have no faith in them'

What absolute tosh.

Like k_ca said, the police are no different to any other profession, good bad and indifferent amongst them. Maybe you've had a bad experience with the police, I don't know, but that attitude is ridiculous.

tconthewing Posted on 05/11/2008 21:46
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its big shots like me in the real world that create wealth and pays taxes in order for people like them to lie,cheat,attack innocent people like roady and murder them too

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 05/11/2008 21:50
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Er, yeah ok.

Goodnight tc.

karembeu_ca Posted on 05/11/2008 21:50
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sigh ... end of thread. no longer worth expending any energy on this one.

mossboss Posted on 06/11/2008 16:18
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Lets deal with FACTS shall we.
Every single person arrested on that train deserved to be locked.
No undercover Police on the train, just a couple of OFF duty Durham Police returning home from watching the Boro game.
Witnesses have come forward including a young female with her child who was absolutely pettrified by the behaviour of some of the arrested Boro fans.
Boro fans were goading the older West Ham lads on the train(who could have reacted badly,and given you and your group more than a poorly nose)
I hope you and your lot are given a football banning order, because you were a disgrace to the club and people of Middlesbrough.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 16:21
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No good ending threads and thank to all who have helped so far i am using this board to hope that boro fans read it and someone who saw what happened to me come forward. All i can say is that i will take whatever the police throw at me and that is no problem all i want is witnesses who saw what they did to me as this was totaly unjustified and i want to bring them to boot or they will think that there is no problem walking around and doing this to anyone there uniform does not justify them doing this.....Thanks all Roady

sasboro1 Posted on 06/11/2008 16:27
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sounds like boro fans were causing grief, got caught by off duty policemen then got arrested when train was stopped. Realised they were getting arrested then a scuffle started which resulted in the police getting physical to restrain someone which ended up in him getting wacked against the shelter/floor as boro fan(s) were hitting out and possibly trying to get away.

zzzzz Posted on 06/11/2008 16:30
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"Me and my friends are facing serious charges for just defending ourselves can any witnesses who complained on the train about the police brutality used please come forward"

Now

"All i can say is that i will take whatever the police throw at me and that is no problem"

Changed your tune.

I assume the off duty plod WERE Boro fans... I'd say you're in the shyte fella.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 16:31
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mossboss..you are obviously OB by the sound of this because only them accused us of this and we would not start with 30 to 40 do you think we are totaly insane and my friend actualy sheilded the woman and child from what i can only say was self defence from us.as i say i will answerer to this and am only asking for witnesses of what happened to me by the police there was no need for this force i never tried to resist arrest from you but the assault that happened to me on the station was totaly out of order and unjustified.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 16:54
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May i also state that when the police had hold of my son i was not arrested and was only arrested after appealing to the police to let my son go as he neverer started it, and at this time was also on my mobile phone to my wife telling her that my son had been arrested. But obviously the police are going to say that we started it and for the record this woman according to the police identified each one of us for starting the trouble when we were interviewed.

the_elf_unit Posted on 06/11/2008 17:20
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Roady, do you know a few lads from shildon and do you sit with a lad with blond hair whose initails are MS? If you do i think I know who you are, met you once or twice years ago at boro games and I know a few of the other lads from round that way.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:25
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Yes i do know all the lads from Shildon as that is where i am originaly from. I ran the bus from shildon until this year and my nick name from shildon is L***y this should help you.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:27
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Elf if you give me your email address i will mail you with my phone number you know exactly who i am.

the_elf_unit Posted on 06/11/2008 17:30
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Yes mate I thought it was you, I got that bus once or twice but many moons ago as I moved out of the area over 10 years ago.

I'll give you a shout next time I'm up at the game, assuming you are allowed in that is [;)]

Hope everything goes ok and you get it sorted out sooner rather than later. If I was heading back to shildon like my plans were going to be I would have been on the train but as it happens I went there the night before and headed back to Manchester instead. It's a pity as I proprbably would have seen the whole thing. You did hold me up and kept me from the pub for an extra half an hour which I'm not happy about but never mind

the_elf_unit Posted on 06/11/2008 17:32
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if you go on the MFC website and look at the supporters clubs email addresses mine will be there for manchester, if that's too hard to work out for a shildon lad then let me know and I'll put it.

Fletch Posted on 06/11/2008 17:33
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You should have kept it quiet on here and magic'd some eye witnesses up and all lied through your back teeth, its only what the coppers have done for years!

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:33
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Elf you should be happy i saved you some money so you have more in your pocket.....LOL you obviously know that i am not a trouble maker and never cause any thanks..Dave (Roady41)

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:35
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how do i find these elf would be happy to get back in touch.

the_elf_unit Posted on 06/11/2008 17:37
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sod it - let me know when you have it - on the MFC website if you go onto the fans section there is a list there, loads of them from all over the world.

Yeah I know that mate, but others don't.

the_elf_unit Posted on 06/11/2008 17:39
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Fletch due to the nature of my job I would not do that as I work with the police in a round about way in manchester even for a shildon lad, well especially for them as they are all scruffy gets [:D]

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:41
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You are not related to T F are you.

the_elf_unit Posted on 06/11/2008 17:45
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No I'm not is his name the similar to mine like, I know who he is but don't know his real name. RJ or does his surnmae beging with G know's who I am and who my sister is.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:45
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Get in touch. (Roady)

the_elf_unit Posted on 06/11/2008 17:47
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No bother mate, I'll do that when I get chance, right I'm off to finish my work off I should have been out of here ages ago.

Hope everythign goes ok for you

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:50
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Email me back elf

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 17:55
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Elf if you have been on the green godess you are still lucky to be alive.Lol carbon monoxide poisoning....Lol

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 06/11/2008 18:33
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Roady - Network Security looks after the site at Eaglescliffe.

0113 244 3003

kazza Posted on 06/11/2008 18:34
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you seen this roady?


Link: .........

alf_wood67 Posted on 06/11/2008 18:55
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I think the link is a wind up from the west spammers.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:06
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Thanks a lot Rodney have tried them and they only had mobile security they told me to go there and try and see the gaurd by waiting around there but not to get caught for tresspasing thats all i need to go with it ......Lol

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 06/11/2008 19:09
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sounds like undercover bobbys from the london erea to me like,

sixtyniner69 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:09
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over 80% of bobbies are alright

but 10-20% by their own figures are suspect.

check the status of these officers as off duty and not : not on a direct duty related to the game.

were their officers from london/ transport police involved or present.

do not trust a policeman . the police do not!

seriously worth the effort of getting a lot of pictures of the station & cctv. its a 25 mile trip so what get it done. especially the cctv and its coverage.

do not trust your brief be polite but treat him as a lazy T***.

from what i have read you group might have somehow started this then overzelous bobbies gave you a shoeing and charged you for the pleasure.

get off your arse and gather evidence it is your life they are looking at ruining


Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:12
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Lets deal with FACTS shall we.
Every single person arrested on that train deserved to be locked.
No undercover Police on the train, just a couple of OFF duty Durham Police returning home from watching the Boro game.
Witnesses have come forward including a young female with her child who was absolutely pettrified by the behaviour of some of the arrested Boro fans.
Boro fans were goading the older West Ham lads on the train(who could have reacted badly,and given you and your group more than a poorly nose)
I hope you and your lot are given a football banning order, because you were a disgrace to the club and people of Middlesbrough

Obviously this is the OB version which happened and is bull they say i need a bloody nose....S*** A broken nose burst mouth serious bruising where does reasonable force come into this when i am disabled and could not fight back to start with. Has i say i have had 2 heart attacks and suffer fromm serious ostio arthritis. Unfortunately there were women and children on the train which i sypathise with but do they expect us not to try and defend ourselves in this violent knife weilding society.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:16
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sixtyniner69 there was definately one with a serious southern accent from Durham they say beleive what you want???????

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 06/11/2008 19:16
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There will be a guard on duty from 4pm tomorrow for the whole weekend

Senor_Chester Posted on 06/11/2008 19:18
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Have some of the people defending the coppers on here never been to a match and seen how we're treat then?

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:18
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i am going to go through there tomorrow night and see if i can catch him or any taxi drivers about who may of seen this and hope they dont get me for trespass has they say

sixtyniner69 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:49
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what i am saying is do not trust your brief

check the status of All the bobbies on the train eg two might have been off duty durham and the one might have been on duty BTP or met.

bobbies & briefs just work for a dollar or a target bonus.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:50
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Im not saying all police are bad but some of them treat people like animals as soon as they put on that uniform, there are some descent ones among them but you always get the minority.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 19:51
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My breif has even phoned me to see how i am and take me through the correct procedures.

Aurora Posted on 06/11/2008 19:53
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Police - generally ok.

Police + football fans = police act like scum - ive seen it too many times - most recently blackburn away,sunlun away --bad

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 06/11/2008 19:56
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bobbys are arseholllessss bullyed at school the lot of them,...

sixtyniner69 Posted on 06/11/2008 20:03
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hey roady remember ther are a lot of cameras eg both platforms that could have witnessed this.

and the fact that they all did not is a FACT in itself.

if as you say they give you a shoeing for no reason then the cameras will support this remember the bobby who got done for giving a suspect a kicking in front of his mates in stockton nick ( i think ) caught on cctv.

if true they will be on an absolute defensive and your brief will be under pressure.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 20:28
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it is amazing how the police say that there are no cameras at eaglescliffe station yet network rails website say that it is camera monitored...........Strange

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 06/11/2008 20:30
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Where are they on the station I looked the other day and couldn`t see any

zzzzz Posted on 06/11/2008 20:34
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Link


Link: CCTV Yes

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 20:39
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zzzzzzzz already been there and done that and even got it printed out ready.

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 06/11/2008 20:50
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I was at the station this week and had a look, admittedly from the other side of the track.

I am ther tomorrow to visit my mate who is working there. I`m going to have a proper look. I don`t care what that says I don`t think there is CCTV on there. When was it last updated?

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 20:53
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Not quite sure but you know what the police say in Middlesbrough guilty until proven innocent.

zzzzz Posted on 06/11/2008 20:53
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You're mad for this surveillance caper aint you Rodney!

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 20:54
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zzzzzzzz do you want to defend me in court i think you could put up a good argument for both sides..Lol

zzzzz Posted on 06/11/2008 21:00
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Roady I've no idea where the truth lies in the train.

But I reckon you've been slapped around by the plod in the station. I hope you get justice for that. Good luck.

Roady41 Posted on 06/11/2008 21:12
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At least you are honest about it put it that way.

AYCLIFFERED Posted on 06/11/2008 21:26
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Take your punishment like a man L----, you thug.

Roady41 Posted on 07/11/2008 16:49
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AYCLIFFERED who are you and dont be so crazy..........Lol

Roady41 Posted on 07/11/2008 17:14
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I will take my punishment like a man after defending myself so long as the OB who did this to me take theres like men too.

Donno_MFC Posted on 08/11/2008 03:25
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Fella, I have thought long and hard about this, and i never thought i would help the police due to some run ins with them in my past, but i waas on that train with my lad, it was the first time i took him to a match, and you know what he never wants to go again, why because of you anhd your lad and his mates. now i saw what happened and you were all bang out of order from the second you got on the train at Boro. I admit it started as banter but you were pushing and pushing and it backfired. do you know whats worse... the fact that i was sitting there thinking yeah go on lads teke the p**s out of them C****ney gits. BUT you took it further, and were bang out of order, and yes the girls with the baby was petrified becuase of yous lot starting grief on a packed train. see when the train left the station i listened to a lot of people on the train all boro fans who were all of the same thought. you were a few p*****d up lads who tried it on on a packed train with kids and women putting them at risk. So I am left with a lad who doesnt want to go to a football match with his dad again cheers fella. and yes i was there and am a 10 year season ticket holder who gets that train every home game, yes its always packed and sometimes there is banter but you tied it on in the wrong place where kids could have got hurt, you aint getting my sympathy and from what i heard of the 2 coppers on the train who give their details to the coppers in uniform they were off duty and were boro fans as was the Boro FC steward.

outoftowned Posted on 08/11/2008 03:35
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new posters galore... or

either(a) you bit off more than you can chew,.. it happens, deal with it
(b) this is the most drawn out lie in history, 140 odd posts and no one on here, knows anyone, to back you up... even by degrees of separation that is unlikely ??

take it on the chin pal

zzzzz Posted on 08/11/2008 05:30
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"Lets deal with FACTS shall we.
Every single person arrested on that train deserved to be locked.
No undercover Police on the train, just a couple of OFF duty Durham Police returning home from watching the Boro game.
Witnesses have come forward including a young female with her child who was absolutely pettrified by the behaviour of some of the arrested Boro fans."

"but i waas on that train with my lad, it was the first time i took him to a match, and you know what he never wants to go again, why because of you anhd your lad and his mates. now i saw what happened and you were all bang out of order from the second you got on the train at Boro."

Two witnesses for you there Roady and NOT ONE to back up your story.

You deserve everything you get.




Ts17Boro Posted on 08/11/2008 08:20
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Roady - can you please explain to me a huge inconsistency in your story. On one of your early posts you say your blood is all over the station near the shelter. But then you say (more than once)about being booked in at the police station with no injuries????? Which one was it?? I am having trouble believing your version of events.

chorleyphil Posted on 08/11/2008 09:14
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I was on that train. Some Boro lads were really taking some sht of a group of West Ham fans. Anyway, one of these C****ney geezers grabbed this young lad, who had the audacity to answer back to him. A scuffle ensued when an older bloke tried to break things up. A woman and her bairn were visibly shaken by all this and 2 lads claim to be police restored some order by taking the easy way out and getting the Boro lads off the train. As the train pulled out of Eaglescliffe, all the West Ham fans were taking the p!ss till they got off at Darlo.





zzzzzzzz.....I wasnt actually on the train, but you see how easy it is TO BE.

hewielewie Posted on 08/11/2008 09:36
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I think he means the Duty Sergeants report stated he had no injuries

blindschool Posted on 08/11/2008 11:16
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I find it hard to believe that off duty Durham coppers returning home from a game would get involved wrongly locking up and brutalising other Boro fans. Whatever you think of cops, they probably saw it as their duty to do something about the thuggish behaviour of the people involved.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 08/11/2008 11:49
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Which nick were you taken to out of interest? An old school mate of mine is duty sergeant at Darlo.

BORO_SONGWRITER Posted on 08/11/2008 12:12
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I WAS ON THE TRAIN HANDING OUT LEAFLETS FOR MY CONCERT AND I SAW EVERYTHING.

blindschool Posted on 08/11/2008 12:39
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Spill the beans then.

slasher Posted on 08/11/2008 13:52
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I know this lad, roady......he is a clown who does not work, fiddled the money from the people who got on his bus and I hope he gets all he deserves. And he wears tracksuit bottoms with shoes, what a p***k he is. His son thinks he is a hooligan too......... got what he wanted then!

strof Posted on 08/11/2008 14:37
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roady often used to put in his own money in to fund the bus when we were down on the takings get yer facts right slash
did you ever go on the bus? there were a few clowns on there as well

slasher Posted on 08/11/2008 14:43
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Yes I used to get on the bus, the green godess was a beauty...... the few clowns on there made people stop going on the bus thus forcing higher prices for eveyone.

strof Posted on 08/11/2008 14:52
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you will remember the mist of carbon monoxide floating from the front and sparking people out on the way back on the green machine.
roady took over the running of the bus and kept it going a few years after that when no one else would

the_elf_unit Posted on 08/11/2008 14:56
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Carbon Monoxide making people from shildon dopey, it's not that that makes them dopey it's all the inbreeding

slasher Posted on 08/11/2008 14:57
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To make a few quid and cos he had nowt better to do, the dole woller!

the_elf_unit Posted on 08/11/2008 14:58
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Someone a bit bitter there?

slasher Posted on 08/11/2008 14:59
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the_elf_unit, did you go on the bus? if so, do you remember the driver 'wiggy' with the comb-over?

the_elf_unit Posted on 08/11/2008 15:00
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Only been on a couple of times as I left the area over 10 years ago now, but I have a feeling I know who you mean

strof Posted on 08/11/2008 15:03
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lokks like it elf - roady took a load of hassle when he ran the bus and did not rip any body off. bus eventually stopped running due to people taking a lend of him not the other way round

the_elf_unit Posted on 08/11/2008 15:05
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I got a suprise the other day when I was at boro station and saw a few of them on the train and not ont he bus, I'd heard that bus was knocked on the head but didn;t realise so few people went now. That will be the reason then