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PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:33
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Give me 2 minutes....

addison-road Posted on 16/01/2008 21:34
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Times up.

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:36
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karin says: (21:31:56)
ok sweetie


karin says: (21:31:56)
latest news
karin says: (21:32:04)
he seems to have 2 contracts
" Mark " says: (21:32:06)
ok...
" Mark " says: (21:32:21)
one with heerenveen and anoter with AZ
karin says: (21:32:23)
and they are not making a decision tonight
" Mark " says: (21:32:27)
really
" Mark " says: (21:32:37)
does ti say when?
" Mark " says: (21:32:41)
it*
karin says: (21:32:44)
knvb will do that later this week
karin says: (21:33:43)
but doesnt say exactly when
" Mark " says: (21:34:12)
ok.. not good news!
" Mark " says: (21:34:17)
Thank you Karin x
karin says: (21:34:31)
dont know if its not good news
karin says: (21:34:53)
appaerently contract is nog legit because of his lawyer did not sign this


" Mark " says: (21:35:39)
yeah we sort of new that.. but were hoping they would say his AZ contract wasn't valid.  Will just have to wait for KNVB this week!



This was the exact convo with Ambers Mum... she ahs been keeping tabs on all the dutch news channels...

SO: i don't know what it means!!

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:38
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Apart from the fact that his AZ contract isn't valid - but just dont know why a decision hasnt been made yet..

Wonder if he can play this weekend for heerenveen against AZ!

maca88 Posted on 16/01/2008 21:41
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from what ur friends mum says tho the contract negotiated with AZ isnt legitimate so i dont undertand why the knvb cant make a decision 2nite.

addison-road Posted on 16/01/2008 21:41
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Did you mention you shag five birds on average on your holidays?....oh!....and what did you put In the hamper?

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:42
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addison? the hamper?

maca - i know.. thats why i am confused

maca88 Posted on 16/01/2008 21:44
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probably a decision by both lawyeres to make it last as long as possible to get as much publicity and money as possible.

addison-road Posted on 16/01/2008 21:45
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The hamper you where going to give them with English stuff In.

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:46
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oh hahaha!! you remember that. it was over a year ago..

Yeah i put alsorts in there... pop tarst (cos they love them and cant get them) tea, brandy butter just loadsa stuff!

i miss amber actually



Bully_Boy Posted on 16/01/2008 21:47
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Posted on the other thread. PinkPonce Can you get someone to translate this page as through babel fish translator is says AZ won the case.

kazza Posted on 16/01/2008 21:48
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not hard to understand[:D]

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:49
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bully ive sent the link over MSN...

shes at work at the minute, so may take 5 or 10 minutes to reply.

FunkyPotatoe Posted on 16/01/2008 21:51
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Decision Court find in favor of AZ, 9:35pm!

addison-road Posted on 16/01/2008 21:52
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Finished have you?.....shame.

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:54
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The decision has been delayed potato - because it is agreed that he does have 2 contracts. see above cut and paste job.



mat_evans Posted on 16/01/2008 21:56
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sources please ?

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 21:57
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my source is an msn conversation with someone who is dutch, lives in holland and has been keeping track of things!

Brick_Tamland Posted on 16/01/2008 21:58
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various sources from holland, mat.

seems highly accurate info.

FunkyPotatoe Posted on 16/01/2008 22:00
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Matt I've been following this one for a while now; have posted a couple of time on this. My pal is a journo in Holland who has kept me update (his paper are covering the case) there spent an hour debating whether a text constituted a contract!!!!

It's done he's been judged an AZ player 100%!

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 22:00
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there has been no decision lads.


karin says: (21:42:46)
hahaha glad to have been of help for your team hahaha
" Mark " says: (21:42:56)
haha
" Mark " says: (21:44:50)
http://www.azfanpage.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4028&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=220
" Mark " says: (21:45:05)
haha sorry i kow u are at work!
" Mark " says: (21:45:07)
know*
" Mark " says: (21:52:38)
in english a translation at the bottom of that page says AZ has won the judge has stipulated.. but above it says decision delayed for 1 kwartier
karin says: (21:55:59)
ok, one moment
i check again

" Mark " says: (21:56:31)
thank you so much!! sorry to be a pain... just that page says AZ won. and also about a kwartier x
karin says: (21:57:35)
sweetie, dont worry, you could never be a pain
karin says: (21:57:37)
hahaha
" Mark " says: (21:57:58)
:)
karin says: (21:58:29)
no sorry, only find that definite decision will be later this week
karin says: (21:58:42)
i check the sports channel on tv at home
" Mark " says: (21:58:51)
thank link must not be true then huh
karin says: (21:59:14)
dont know hahaha
karin says: (21:59:14)
dont know hahaha
karin says: (21:59:21)
i m leaving for home now
" Mark " says: (21:59:25)
ok Karin
karin says: (21:59:26)
beback bit later ok
karin says: (21:59:30)
bye for now
" Mark " says: (21:59:31)
yeah great
" Mark " says: (21:59:37)
doei doei x





anyhow - she will check shortly from home, but she is saying there hsn't been a decision... that is the AZ fansite...vi don't want to believe it

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 22:02
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funky potato.. can u reveal how that has ben agreed, when i have been informed that the decision has been delayed.

this is by someone who has no interest in the case, but is just telling me the headlines over there.

you could look very silly if u are feeding us full of rubbish

Boro_HP Posted on 16/01/2008 22:03
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FP what newspaper does he/she work for? Surely it will be up on their website too?

maca88 Posted on 16/01/2008 22:04
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az fansite a lot lyk this one then a lot of shhhhhhhhhhhhite going round, hopefully its not true, and hopefully they will fins that he is heerenveens player. just a shame we have to wait even longer to find out!

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 22:04
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he is full of rubbish..

i rang karin for an explanatin.

adamant that KNVB have announced that no decision will be made this evening!

FunkyPotatoe Posted on 16/01/2008 22:05
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Ponce I am not feeding you anything, see my other thread, ask your source about the text message issue, see what he says because it was debated for other an hour about a fooking text message.


sasboro1 Posted on 16/01/2008 22:07
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well if he doesnt come it isnt the end of the world. and to be honest he doesnt sound the most loyal person and would probably end up messing boro about. He has messed about his current club by going on strike and not turning up for training, the wanting to go to AZ then changing his mind and pishing AZ about. maybe best we dont get him anyway.

QuahogBoro Posted on 16/01/2008 22:13
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Here`s something from a Dutch paper. The translation seems to confirm that there has been no decision:

ZEIST - the arbitration committee does not pronounce sentence Wednesday still concerning the arbitration matter between AZ and SC lord peat on the passage of Afonso Alves. ` it has of it all appearance that Alves two have contracts. That cannot, said to President Vermeulen of the arbitration committee at its provisional judgement. ` Alves have signed a contract at AZ. That is a factor which meeweegt. Employer lord peat is however faced with an employee who does not want be transferred. They have still an employment contract, thus Vermeulen. Concerning the question if lord peat must cooperate in the transfer bends itself the arbitration committee the coming days.


Link: double dutch

Hep_Dude Posted on 16/01/2008 22:14
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He doesn't want to stay in Holland, so if he is an AZ player, then we will make the same offer to them - they will make several million euros in one hour, and everyone will be happy.

sasboro1 Posted on 16/01/2008 22:15
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how many clubs can you sign for in a season?

mr_maz Posted on 16/01/2008 22:15
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he has 2 emplyment contracts which he cannot have

no decision till next wednesday at latest

no registration transfer between clubs

BoroBint Posted on 16/01/2008 22:17
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"Afonso Alves have signed a contract on 23 December at AZ. Sc Heerenveen and AZ during the emergency arbitration matter concerning the braziliaanse that top drawer have confirmed in Zeist. On that obligation is lacking however the signature of Mr Ribeiro, the lawyer of Alves. It has of it all appearance that Alves two have contracts. And that cannot, thus President Vermeulen of the arbitration committee at its provisional judgement. Alves have signed an obligation at AZ. Employer lord peat is however faced with an employee who does not want be transferred."

This is a translation of something that appeared on a dutch footy website at 22.59 local time.

After lots of stuff that is poorly translated, it hints that the matter is not over and will be decided later this week.

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 22:18
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maz - where did u get wednesday from?

no mention of a day - "woensdag" in that report.

maca88 Posted on 16/01/2008 22:20
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i reckon we hould sign him from heerenveen legitimately now, and give him 3 legitimate contracts, but get heerenveen to sign his registration over to us! then as az claim they have a legitimate employment contract but cannot play the player we can.

mr_maz Posted on 16/01/2008 22:23
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the AZ board mentions decision within a week. i.e by next wednesday

addison-road Posted on 16/01/2008 22:24
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Fooking Lambs fault!


Link:

mat_evans Posted on 16/01/2008 22:27
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looks like we're screwed to me.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 16/01/2008 22:30
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Is there a FIFA law that prevents a player from being fielded by more than 2 teams in one season?

yearbyred Posted on 16/01/2008 22:32
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He isn't going to play for AZ though is he?

bear66 Posted on 16/01/2008 22:32
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but only one has 'fielded' him so far

Hep_Dude Posted on 16/01/2008 22:33
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within THIS week, i.e. by Friday (according to other threads).

There are two weeks left in the window, how are we "screwed".

br14 Posted on 16/01/2008 22:34
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True about the three teams in a season, but that happened to Mascherano and they overlooked the ruling because he hardly appeared for West Ham (or something along those lines).

yearbyred Posted on 16/01/2008 22:35
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Just to back up what others have said I just got this response on the Heerenveen forum

"he is contracted to heerenveen and az, no ruling decission yet"

br14 Posted on 16/01/2008 22:36
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"i reckon we hould sign him from heerenveen legitimately now, and give him 3 legitimate contracts, but get heerenveen to sign his registration over to us! then as az claim they have a legitimate employment contract but cannot play the player we can."

You might have a point there. Just the problem of the work permit to resolve. Otherwise isnt possession 9/10ths of the law - or is that just in the movies?

mr_maz Posted on 16/01/2008 22:43
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i read somewhere that he is eligaile for swedish nationality cause of the time he spent there? Also he is engaged to a swedish girl(could be good candy for us?)
that wouls solve permit issue

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 22:44
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der.


karin says: (22:37:19)
hi mark,
" Mark " says: (22:37:27)
hello
" Mark " says: (22:37:29)
:)
karin says: (22:37:30)
ok latest news is that appaerantly
" Mark " says: (22:37:33)
ok
karin says: (22:37:39)
both contracts are being seen as valid
karin says: (22:37:47)
according to knvb,
" Mark " says: (22:37:52)
ok
karin says: (22:37:55)
so there is a sort of a problem
" Mark " says: (22:38:10)
right...
karin says: (22:38:37)
eventhough his lawyer has not signed the contract,
karin says: (22:38:40)
that doesnt really matter, as he did sign
karin says: (22:38:56)
so he now has two contracts, and signed up with m'bro
" Mark " says: (22:39:20)
did it say that he was signed up with middlesbrough also?
" Mark " says: (22:39:37)
and did it mention what knvb expected the outcome to be?
karin says: (22:39:49)
yes, as m'bro was going to present him this thursday
karin says: (22:39:56)
no no expectation as yes
karin says: (22:40:18)
it says that he signed a contract with m'bro for 4,5 year
" Mark " says: (22:40:34)
really..
" Mark " says: (22:40:41)
god this is a nightmare!! haha
karin says: (22:40:48)
it is
karin says: (22:40:48)
hahaha
" Mark " says: (22:41:18)
so does that mean he has 3 contracts?
" Mark " says: (22:41:21)
lol
karin says: (22:41:23)
yes
karin says: (22:41:24)
hahaha
" Mark " says: (22:41:28)
hahaha!
" Mark " says: (22:41:32)
he must be rich Karin
karin says: (22:41:37)
no problem if he plays for 3 teams, and gets 3 salaries
karin says: (22:41:39)
hahaha
" Mark " says: (22:41:39)
3 wages!
" Mark " says: (22:41:42)
haha yes!
karin says: (22:41:43)
lol

PinkPonce Posted on 16/01/2008 22:59
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funky potato..

wheres my apology?