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fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 08:40
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for putting up false links and putting kids at risk of seeing summat they shouldnt.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 08:42
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I wouldnt go that far but really scare_glow just remember this time of the day kids will be up and mine usually are close to the desk Pis*ed me off a little.

Mr_Middlesbrough Posted on 27/08/2008 08:42
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I feel a warning would suffice

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 08:44
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It's the parents of kids letting them watch as they click random links on the internet who are putting them at risk.

This isn't a child friendly message board.


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OPEO Posted on 27/08/2008 08:44
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Get rid of the fookin mackem troll.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 08:47
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flaps i wouldnt mind so much if it were at a time when the kids are not around (on an evening) but come on , anyone can log on and see that expecting the boro goals ffs

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 08:49
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Yes that would work because porn sites shut down between 8am-8pm GMT.

If you're clicking random links like that perhaps you need supervising as much as your kids. You can tell from the url it's not kosher.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 08:52
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it shouldnt have been a RANDOM link it should have been a link to boro goals, this is a boro forum is it not????

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 08:53
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If this is a football forum how about you stop making silly witch hunt threads trying to get other posters banned and instead apply a bit of common sense.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 08:56
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Common sense - ha thats rich coming from someone with none.
Wouldnt surprise me if you and him were both child abusers ffs if you think that putting up links like that is ok

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 08:56
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"Common sense - ha thats rich coming from someone with none.
Wouldnt surprise me if you and him were both child abusers ffs if you think that putting up links like that is ok"

Wow you're a revolting idiot.


fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 08:58
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flaps - peedo

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 08:59
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I get it. You're a geordie on a windup. Carry on.

Muttley Posted on 27/08/2008 09:00
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It's a football board not one for adolescent wank fests. I tried that link (it wasn't obviously dodgy to me) I'm sat at work but fortunately the company firewall stopped it. Totally inappropriate. People have lost their jobs over watching porn at our place.

Anyone who posts pr0n links pretending that they are goal videos needs to get a life and preferably F***off off this board.

ridsdale Posted on 27/08/2008 09:01
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I would have thought that link would have turned any young boy off homosexual thoughts for life.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 09:02
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Then perhaps people at work with policies like that shouldn't be reading web sites where such links can be posted?

It's not rocket science. If you don't know what a link is, and you'll get in trouble for accessing certain kinds of websites, don't click it.

If I gave you a blank DVD and said 'play this to your office it's great' - would you put it on without previewing it first?

Common sense people. Get some.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 09:03
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ok then, flaps and scare_glow to be banned for being useless doley morons with no use to society

Jam! Posted on 27/08/2008 09:03
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Surely the one that needs to get some common sense is scare_glow?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 09:04
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You like throwing around wild accusations don't you fabrizio. Unfortunately, following your little performance in this thread you're more likely to receive a ban than anybody else.

nobbienuts Posted on 27/08/2008 09:04
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String him up says i

Manfriday Posted on 27/08/2008 09:05
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Gotta agree with flaps. If that link had been a virus then its entirely your own fault if you open it and it buggas your pc

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 09:06
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"Surely the one that needs to get some common sense is scare_glow?"

If you want a safe Internet environment where every link you click takes you to a child friendly site, install net nanny. Unless you do, there will always be links like that.


fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 09:31
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Rant with flaps aside(apologies for the name calling), i do feel that scare_glow was wrong to put up a link like that when someone was wanting to watch our teams' goals.
I dont think it was unreasonable to pillory scare_glow for that and i am grateful for the support of other board members who felt the same way.

OPEO Posted on 27/08/2008 09:37
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With a username like flaps and posting porn links tells you a lot about this moron. Anyone ever seen flaps and scarecrow in the same room?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 09:38
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I haven't posted a porn link opeo.

You read the daily mail don't you.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 09:41
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and i take it youre a daily sport/star reader???

bigdave85 Posted on 27/08/2008 09:42
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BAN FLAPS!!!

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 09:46
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Fancy calling someone a paedophile because they said you had to be careful what you click on.

PS: Who got fired for looking at porn at work? I find that hard to believe, well certainly for clicking on one link.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 09:48
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mailinator see my later posts

number9 Posted on 27/08/2008 09:50
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"PS: Who got fired for looking at porn at work? I find that hard to believe, well certainly for clicking on one link."

Two lads that i worked with in Kendal, a nameless insurance company that now resides in lytham st annes, were dissmissed instantly for circulating an "obscene email". Mind you one of the plonkers sent it the CEO by mistake.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 09:52
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You shouldn't use work email to send any message you wouldn't be happy to print off and show your manager.

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 09:52
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fab, yeah I saw that you said sorry but still better not to say things like that!

number9, circulating an email is different from accidentally clicking on a link. They just got caught.

Muttley Posted on 27/08/2008 09:56
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We had a guy here sacked for visiting pr0n sites at work - more than one site to be fair - but it does happen. A few more stupid links like that and sometimes companies are just looking for a cheap way to get shot of people.

Grow up and leave it out. There are plenty of joke links you can put up without resorting to pr0n.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 09:57
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mailinator - i stand by my outrage at the time and have apologised. But dont you think it was out of order to put that link up?

number9 Posted on 27/08/2008 09:57
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Was a bit harsh firing them both imo as the dick who forwared it to the CEO should have been the only one go.

OPEO Posted on 27/08/2008 09:58
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Is scare glow still in the shower?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 09:58
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If you're caught looking at porn for whatever reason in an environment where it is unsuitable you only have yourself to blame. No point crying about it.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 10:00
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OPEO - is scare_glow actually flaps???

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 10:01
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No I'm not, but why would you think OPEO could confirm if I was or wasn't?

I'm going to accuse you of being every reactionary geordie calling posters they don't like paedophiles that I see from now on.

scare_glow Posted on 27/08/2008 10:03
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fabrizio i think the main reason you are outraged is because you found the link strangely erotic

oh, and because you fell for it obviously

prepman Posted on 27/08/2008 10:07
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Scareglow just grow up sonny thats all.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 10:10
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ok then flaps dont accept my apology i wont lose sleep over it. call me a geordie all you want, i wont bite.
There are certain others on the board who know me and know that i am a familly man and boro through and through, i take my kids to the games so they will grow up loving the boro as i do.
I do however think that you dont have a shred of decency in you for sticking up for putting porn on a link instead of the mighty boro goals, and ignoring everyone elses views on such activity.
My last word on the subject.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 10:10
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Interesting that people are more bothered about somebody obviously linking to a silly shock site than a poster thinking it is appropriate/amusing to call people child abusers.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 10:12
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"There are certain others on the board who know me and know that i am a familly man and boro through and through, i take my kids to the games so they will grow up loving the boro as i do.
I do however think that you dont have a shred of decency in you for sticking up for putting porn on a link instead of the mighty boro goals, and ignoring everyone elses views on such activity."

A family man who, when disagreeing with somebody, decides to start shouting 'paedophile' as if this is vaguely acceptable?

You're the last person to start questioning the decency of others.

Not sure how you supporting the Boro makes any difference. There are idiots in every crowd.

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 10:16
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How can you go on about decency when you accuse someone of sexually abusing children? It was a link on a messageboard for god's sake. If you are using a computer to browse the non-regulated Internet with children in the room, you need to make sure you have a filter on it if you are not able to work it out yourself.

Manfriday Posted on 27/08/2008 10:18
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Everyone elses view? I agreed with flaps but you ignored my view?

number9 Posted on 27/08/2008 10:22
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To be honest i opened the link, naive I guess, but apart from it being mildly irritating (more so when Firefox restored the session and I was back to square one) and a juvenile thing to do no need for all this abuse from both sides imho.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 10:49
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It was more shock than anything for me it was early(no exuses i know) but u dont expect that on here ....................or do you?

The kids sit and watch me on my games sometimes and they just both happend to be looking at the screen as i clicked the link and dont say i should know what it was as no1 would really suspect that would they?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 10:53
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Well I suspected it from the URL.

PinkPonce Posted on 27/08/2008 11:21
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Flaps - I use a macbook and when I put the cursor over the link it doesn't give me the URL.

I wouldn't be very happy had I opened something like that in front of children (I didn't actually see the post though).

I just this its bad taste, and I know the someone else was banned for putting a link to homosexual porn previously.

As much as this is a football message board it still must be treated with respect. Children have access to this place and yscareglow just cant go around posting S*** like that.

I really can't see why you feel the need to back him up over this.

In saying that, I have also seen people being banned for calling people names mentioned by Fabrizio.

As board admin i will be taking a view over the proceedings and announce my desicion in due course.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 11:26
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PP - I will abide by your decision your honour

onthemap Posted on 27/08/2008 11:32
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The fact is, some of the posters who do this type of thing don't have standards, they can't see the wrong in it because their parents didn't see the wrong in it.

If you have chavs for parents who condone this type of thing then this is the outcome.

Although it's not really their fault the mods on here should just get rid of them, they won't be missed.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 11:36
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"Flaps - I use a macbook and when I put the cursor over the link it doesn't give me the URL."

By default Safari displays the status bar, which reveals the URL at the bottom of the screen. You must have disabled it. Either way, it's your computer and your browser. Learn how to use it.

And if you are to be a self appointed 'board admin' you need to improve your literacy and advocacy skills - at no point have I posted a link to a porn site.

PinkPonce Posted on 27/08/2008 11:44
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Damn right on the map.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 11:45
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"The fact is, some of the posters who do this type of thing don't have standards, they can't see the wrong in it because their parents didn't see the wrong in it."

I'm not sure world wide web has been in general use long enough to have had this kind of influence on generational parenting trends. Good job using an identikit outraged member of society response though.

PinkPonce Posted on 27/08/2008 11:52
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Flaps:

1) It isn't the default setting.

2) I bought it cos it looks pretty.

3) I never claimed you posted the links. Refer to:

"Children have access to this place and yscareglow just cant go around posting S*** like that"

"I really can't see why you feel the need to back him up over this."

4) Respect my authoritor.

Manfriday Posted on 27/08/2008 11:55
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Thats you told flaps pmpl

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 11:56
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"It's the parents of kids letting them watch as they click random links on the internet who are putting them at risk"


So im a bad parent now flaps?

For clicking a link that was supposed to be of boro goals and the kids just happend to be at my comp i have explaint this to you and yet you insist im a bad parent how sad go have a long good look at yourslef. well your as bad as glow tbh yes it was a joke but you have to look at both sides and it wasnt funny when the kids seen it. you idiot

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 11:56
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Who lets their kids use Internet forums unsupervised and without parental controls on their computer?

Why would you even click on a link in full view of those kids knowing that it could be anything?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 11:58
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Default setting or not, it's the tool you use to access the Internet and you are responsible for it's use. If you need the URL to determine which links are pornographic then do what it takes to view the URL. You aren't passive in this; if you click a link you are choosing to access the site.

I am not backing scare_glow up, rather I am questioning the sense of people who, with children in the room, are prepared to blithely click unmoderated links on the Internet, then blame everyone but themselves when they expose their children to material they shouldn't see.

You did claim I had posted a link, and have edited your post to correct your mistake without admitting it.

Your authority is in tatters. You have neither the wits nor the integrity.

You're off the case ponce, turn in your badge.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 12:00
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"So im a bad parent now flaps?

For clicking a link that was supposed to be of boro goals and the kids just happend to be at my comp i have explaint this to you and yet you insist im a bad parent how sad go have a long good look at yourslef. well your as bad as glow tbh yes it was a joke but you have to look at both sides and it wasnt funny when the kids seen it. you idiot"

I didn't describe you as a bad parent.

However, if a person who lets his children see the material linked to in that URL is - in your opinion - a bad parent, then you are describing yourself as such as you have nobody to blame but yourself for clicking it.

hewielewie Posted on 27/08/2008 12:02
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What was Scareglow looking for to find the link in the first place?

scare_glow Posted on 27/08/2008 12:07
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old men's C****s

hewielewie Posted on 27/08/2008 12:08
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Are you that Paul geezer from a few months back?

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 12:09
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"I didn't describe you as a bad parent."
But you are i wasnt to know it was porn not even from the link i dont willingly let them watch porn and your wrong for suggesting that

" However, if a person who lets his children see the material linked to in that URL is - in your opinion - a bad parent, then you are describing yourself as such as you have nobody to blame but yourself for clicking it. " it was a link for boro goals and he had porn on it they were just at the comp as i clicked im not wrong for doing that iwasnt to know that would bbe on there anyway i wont say no more on this im just not happy with htis you say HAVE A LONG GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF Flaps.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 12:15
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"But you are i wasnt to know it was porn not even from the link i dont willingly let them watch porn andd your wrong for suggesting that"

I guessed it was from the URL. If you are unable to do so, and have vulnerable people exposed to the computer you are using, only click verifiably safe links or invest in some software that will protect you and your children. You didn't knowingly click a porn link, but your lack of care in ensuring it wasn't indicates you are as much to blame as the person who created the link.

"t was a link for boro goals and he had porn on it they were just at the comp as i clicked im not wrong for doing that iwasnt to know that would bbe on there anyway i wont say no more on this im just not happy with htis you say HAVE A LONG GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF Flaps."

But it wasn't a link for Boro goals - but you only found out when it was too late. Like I said, if you don't know yourself, ask someone who does or use software to help you.

I don't think I have need for self reflection in this matter. Instead of typing barely literate rants at you in return I'm giving you sensible advice. How about acting upon this instead of slipping into an illiterate rage that doesn't help your kids that only serves to make you look stupid.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 12:22
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"I guessed it was from the URL" well you would wouldnt you? as you know all the porn links ofc.

"but your lack of care in ensuring it wasn't indicates you are as much to blame as the person who created the link. "

what a joke to say im as much to blame and as for advise i didnt ask for any and i dont want any
Anyway rant is over you have had your say i have had mine we have diff views on this im sticking to mine as you will with yours so lets not go on were not 12 years old after all .

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 12:25
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You have your views, which appear to absolve you of any blame for clicking on links.

You clearly do need advice as earlier today you exposed your children to 3 fat gay men in a shower rubbing each other's parts.

And no, while I am an experienced and responsible Internet user, I do not have a fully comprehensive list of pornographic websites memorised. It was just obvious from the URL.

PinkPonce Posted on 27/08/2008 12:27
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Flaps - You are quite simply talking arse gravy of the highest order.

My post said it was scareglow from the very start and that you were backing him up from the start.

You've came on this board in recent weeks and just want to be controversial, despite the fact that its making you look like an arse.

I am sorry, but people opening a page on a football website with a link to Middlesbrough goals, should be safe in the knowledge that what they are opening is safe.

Like i said earlier, another poster (a geordie troll) was banned for posted homosexual links. I am pretty sure the same will happen once the boards hierachy realise whats gone on.

It is simply unacceptable behaviour. The simple fact of that matter is that - if that sort of stuff was accepted in here, there would be an age verification tool on signing up. The fact that there isn't means that content like that is fundamentally not welcome on here.

The fact that you are condoning it and calling parents for complaining about it shows exactly the kind of person you are.

hewielewie Posted on 27/08/2008 12:27
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"You clearly do need advice as earlier today you exposed your children to 3 fat gay men in a shower rubbing each other's parts."

Who had access to Newcastle's boardroom?

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 12:30
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Excuse me, do you mind? My kids are reading this on my knee and do not need to see words such as "arse gravy", cheers.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 12:31
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"You clearly do need advice as earlier today you exposed your children to 3 fat gay men in a shower rubbing each other's parts. "

Not intentionally you seem to be makeing it out i delibarately clicked the link to show them? thats whats makeing me angry i DIDNOT KNOW IT WAS PORN AND WOULDNT KNOW FROM THE LINK .

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 12:32
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I have not been here several weeks, I have been here several years. Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because posters aren't interested in creating and maintaining an exciting forums persona - as you are - that
they don't exist.

I have not condoned it, and that you think I have demonstrates that you're more interested in typing up a new post than reading the posts of others.

Yes this is a football website. A football website where people can post anything bar lax and slow moderation and an inadequate word filter standing in their way. Anybody who is here for more than a day can recognise that.

If you go to the trouble of replying to this, please take the time to read this post and the others I have made. I am not advocating homosexual pornography on FMTTM, I am advocating that people get a clue as to how the Internet works. And if this is beyond them, get some software to make the job easier.

hewielewie Posted on 27/08/2008 12:32
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Anyone got any defibs? My granny's heart has just stopped. Arse gravy!!!

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 12:32
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Ponce, maybe there should be some sort of age verification but that isn't easy to do. Perhaps it is better that parents take control over what their kids see and vet things before blindly displaying it to them without warning.

For example, there have been threads on here about a grown man shaving his own testicles. Now that's the sort of family safe threads we need, isn't it?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 12:34
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"Not intentionally you seem to be makeing it out i delibarately clicked the link to show them? thats whats makeing me angry i DIDNOT KNOW IT WAS PORN AND WOULDNT KNOW FROM THE LINK ."

Seriously, do you have literacy problems? Read my posts.

You did deliberately click that link. No external power forced your hand. What you didn't know was the content it led to, which is a result of your inexperience. So, either get that experience before you surf with your children or get softare to help you.

PinkPonce Posted on 27/08/2008 13:15
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Mallinator, there is a huge difference to something written in text and a link which opens a video showing 2 men engaging in the love that dare not speaketh its name.

Manfriday Posted on 27/08/2008 13:30
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Arse gravy? I will never enjoy a sunday dinner again..... Arse? Gravy? Cheese? Cake? What ever will they think of next one wonders. Garlic and bread?

Muttley Posted on 27/08/2008 13:38
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Flaps, what prat you sound

"You did deliberately click that link. No external power forced your hand. What you didn't know was the content it led to, which is a result of your inexperience. So, either get that experience before you surf with your children or get softare to help you."

To use an analogy, if someone sends you inappropriate material in a plain envelope and you open it find it contains material such as in the link how is it your fault for opening it and not the fault of the person sending it? If the link up "www.gaylove.org" you might have a point, it didn't. I've been using the internet since day one and I wouldn't have recognised that link as pr0n. Obviously I do not have your expertise in such things, thankfully.

You are defending the indefensible. I note that the link has now (rightly) been removed and I haven't seen Mr. Glow post recently, I trust he has been banned.

Kids do use this board, it should not be beyond the wit of people to use it responsibly. If you want to swap pr0n with your fellow pimple squeezers do it elsewhere.

Thank you.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 13:52
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once again, thanks to the other board members who could see my point.

Manfriday Posted on 27/08/2008 13:57
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You get much porn in the post? Whereas most of the internet is cluttered with porn

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 14:00
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"cluttered with porn", i thought the internet was developed purely for porn!!LOL!

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:03
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"To use an analogy, if someone sends you inappropriate material in a plain envelope and you open it find it contains material such as in the link how is it your fault for opening it and not the fault of the person sending it? "

If you regularly receive these envelopes, and you know that half of such envelopes are pornographic, it's your fault if you're not guarded when you open it and there are children in the room when you do.

"You are defending the indefensible."

Let's not get hysterical.


Kid's might use this board, but if they are young they shouldn't be using it unsupervised. I'm not sure why you think parental responsibility can be abandoned just because such links shouldn't be here on a free-to-use barely moderated forum.

Crying about some daft fat gay porn isn't going to change the Internet and make it safer for kids. You need to wise up.


btw, the link was a short URL with 'hello' at the end. Of course it wasn't a football video site.

NedKat Posted on 27/08/2008 14:07
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Very stupid and immature thing to do, and that's yer lot !

Mixed company, children, mothers ... anyone could be looking over yer shoulder ..

Think before you drink, before you post !!!

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:07
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Think before you click.

scare_glow Posted on 27/08/2008 14:07
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"You are defending the indefensible. I note that the link has now (rightly) been removed and I haven't seen Mr. Glow post recently, I trust he has been banned."


yes i have, and about time too. the world is a safer place thanks to the to the like of your good self


fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 14:09
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parental responsibility has not been abandoned as you say. We were conned into opening the said link under the proviso that it was for the boro goals. Some of us obviously dont have your vast experience on the internet in recognising a porn link.(says a little about you tbh).
However you are defending the use of the link as you have yet to agree that it was in poor taste.
I await your reply sir...

Muttley Posted on 27/08/2008 14:10
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Ah well we can but hope.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 14:11
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Thank you its hard to get your point across when they def ppl who link pron as boro goals.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:11
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'Conned'? what balls. Yes he tricked you, and you were naive enough to fall for the oldest trick on the Internet.

And yes it does say something for me that I'm not stupid enough to open a porn site in front of a bunch of kids. What does it say about you? That you're not safe operating a computer?

In poor taste? Of course it was. It was 3 fat gay men tenderly caressing one another while enjoying a steaming hot shower. That's why he did it.

Having said that, in far poorer taste was you making light of child sexual abuse to score points against other posters.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:13
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By the way, to clarify, that isn't a porn site. It's a site with porn on it known as a shock site. There are loads, designed to shock the people that view them. And they're extremely easy to spot.

Manfriday Posted on 27/08/2008 14:15
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.


Link: This is porn.... No really it is. Look away now granny

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 14:21
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tricked/conned same difference.
Naive? Maybe so.
So i am stupid, for opening a post that i was tricked/conned into opening.
I stand by my earlier posts and take back my apology. You are sir one of the most immoral posters on here for standing up for posting porn on this site. You may as well have put it on yourself.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:23
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Your moral outrage would have more gravity if you hadn't started screaming 'paedophile' at people earlier in the thread.

You feel conned. Conmen pray on the stupid. I'll leave you to work it out.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 14:26
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Yes and child abusers/peedos know the internet inside out and also know what to look for in URL's. By the way i think you are probably gay as well

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:28
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Thanks for the one sided debate fabrizio. Toodles.

NedKat Posted on 27/08/2008 14:29
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You live by some weird standards, Flaps ...

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 14:31
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definetly a pink trouser snake swallower for using "toodles", did your boyfriend help you write some of this???

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:32
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"You live by some weird standards, Flaps ..."

In summary:

* I think people should be responsible for their actions when using the Internet when children are present

* I think that joking about child sexual abuse is worse than posting fat gay porn


These are the 'standards' I have espoused repeatedly in this thread. These are the standards you describe as 'weird'. Please tell me how you disagree with these two statements.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 14:36
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You think that conning people is ok.
You think that gay porn on a football message board is ok.

like i said earlier probably a degenerate homo with peedo leanings.

scare_glow Posted on 27/08/2008 14:42
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"you think that gay porn on a football message board is ok"





if you think that was gay porn you are hiding some dark secrets

NedKat Posted on 27/08/2008 14:44
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Flappy, if a post which seems to indicate it leads to a football highlight, when clicked upon, takes the clicker to a pornographic picture .. I would say that is irresponsible, immature, and completely unethical.

If then, a poster defends such actions .. in my opinion, that poster is either not the sharpest knife in the drawer, or lives by standards of a lesser value to my own.

scare_glow Posted on 27/08/2008 14:50
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"I would say that is irresponsible, immature, and completely unethical. "



2 out of 3 isn't bad

Jerry_Brown Posted on 27/08/2008 14:51
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So presumably as you recognised the url you didn't click on the link flaps?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:52
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Then it's a good job I haven't defended his actions. I have been attacking the reactions of others who have acted as if they had no part to play in allowing their children to see pornography.

I suggest you read the thread before wading in.

Your silence on the matter gives tacit approval to others in this thread who are using accusations of child sexual abuse as a debating tactic. That, to me, is for more immoral than any silly porn video. Shame on you.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:53
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I did click the link. But there were no children present, and I wasn't somewhere were viewing such material is forbidden.

And I didn't recognise that specific URL, but I can could guess from looking at it what kind of site it would be.

Others who can not do this should invest in Net Nanny or similar software.

NedKat Posted on 27/08/2008 14:55
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Aye, OK ...

*points finger to temple, and twirls it around*

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 14:56
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You think that reading a thread before replying is lunacy?

It's ok, I think we both realise this is a bit beyond you.

NedKat Posted on 27/08/2008 14:59
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Don't try the windups, sonny.

Your boring me ...

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:01
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Don't attempt to patronise when you've already demonstrated you're unable to understand what is being discussed.

As for wind ups? This thread was going for hours before you jumped in with your ill-informed, kneejerk replies. What arrogance to assume it's here as a windup for your benefit.

If you're bored I'm sure there's something on the TV you can watch.

onthemap Posted on 27/08/2008 15:05
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Chavs for parents.
They really cannot understand that the majority wouldnt dream of posting stuff like that on here.
All the defending in the world, all the highbrow arguments and let's be honest 'take responsibility for what you click on' is not much of one, all that just skirts around one simple fact.

They are from scum and unfortunately they will go on to breed more scum.

Mixing with decent people won't change them.

Jerry_Brown Posted on 27/08/2008 15:06
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You are signing up for membership of this site. Please note that membership has its responsibilities and that Fansonline.net cannot accept any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violate any laws. Registration is only acceptable on the acceptance of this condition.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:07
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"You are signing up for membership of this site. Please note that membership has its responsibilities and that Fansonline.net cannot accept any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violate any laws. Registration is only acceptable on the acceptance of this condition."

Unless you are on a site that cannot contain such links, you should be aware that they can be present.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:09
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Great rheotic onthemap but it's innacurate, irrelevant and misplaced. By 'high brow' I assume you mean accurate? I've already countered you on this point onthemap. Don't assume a mob gives your words any more accuracy.

It's incredible. I've been called 'scum' and 'paedophile' for suggesting people take care when browsing online in the presence of children. Some of you people need Internet safety lessons and a healthy dose of common sense.

Thick.

onthemap Posted on 27/08/2008 15:14
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flaps
Arguing the point just confirms what I said. You are scum, plain and simple.
It's not even debateable.

You can't have children, or you wouldn't be arguing this, your family can't have any decent morals or standards otherwise they'd have instilled the same into you, and your peers obviously find this type of thing amusing.
In short, from scum, mixing with scum and unfortunately probably going to breed scum.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:18
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It is debatable onthemap, we just had it and you lost. Keep calling me 'scum' all you like but it just makes you look like a fool.

You think I'm scum for believing people should be responsible for what they look at on the Internet. Bizarre.

For what it's worth, I don't think you're scum. Just idiotic.

Manfriday Posted on 27/08/2008 15:20
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And i also believe fabrizios dad is bigger than your dad flaps :)

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 15:21
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Bloody hell Flaps are you still on here ranting about this? go get a life or something .


flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:22
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Posting on a message board to describe how posting on a message board suggests the poster needs a life. Interesting.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:23
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"And i also believe fabrizios dad is bigger than your dad flaps :)"

Apparently my dad is 'chav scum' with no morals or standards because I am aware that the Internet contains material not suitable for children.

onthemap Posted on 27/08/2008 15:24
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"You think I'm scum for believing people should be responsible for what they look at on the Internet. Bizarre"

No I think, sorry I know, you are scum because you genuinely believe that there's a place on this board for that.
You won't get it - as hard as you try.

Go to a porn site and post away, you won't be missed.

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 15:26
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So flaps has said that people need to take responsibility themselves to either take care of what they click on if the situation isn't really appropriate to be clicking on unverified Internet links, invest in some filtering software to protect you if you are not experienced enough to use it or keep children away from you as you ignorantly stumble around the web and all the non-appropriate sites out there.

And the response has been downright condemnation from people who think eugenics is good and that calling people paedophiles or homos/pink trouser snake swallowers is ok.

Well I consider myself a computer expert and I take offence at being labelled a paedophile for it, especially from people taking the moral high ground.

As a father, I don't sit browsing the Internet when he is in the room because, a: it's potentially harmful if something like this happens and b: it's fooking ignorant.

It's laughable that people who think that calling someone a deviant or a homophobic insult are throwing the 'scum' accusations around.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:26
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Where have I said I

"believe that there's a place on this board for that"

?

I haven't, of course, you're just going for the world record for using the word 'scum' in a single post, and proving what a fool you are in the process. Carry on.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 15:30
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How can you really say that we should know its not a proper link for the goals ffs.

And as i have told you before i was not to know it was going to be gay porn and am i supposesed to stop the kids from being around me everytime i click a link ? give your head a shake son i shouldnt have to make them turn away EVERY time i click a link on here.
I was honestly expecting the goals but you have some vandetta telling me i should know its a porn link i just stated that my 2 girls were beside me when i clicked the link and you have been posting all day saying its my fault for clicking the link this will be my last post on this matter from me take note Flaps...

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 15:31
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I think that flaps has totally missed the point in all of this, so i will put it into baby speak just for him:

baba dont click on anything cos other people are not as nice as baba and it may be bad for baba.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:32
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"How can you really say that we should know its not a proper link for the goals ffs."

If you couldn't tell then you should invest in software to protect your children. You aren't in a position to judge the nature of Internet links for youself - let someone else do it.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:33
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"baba dont click on anything cos other people are not as nice as baba and it may be bad for baba."

Do you realise that this is my point of view expressed in baby talk, and you are arguing with and patronising yourself?

onthemap Posted on 27/08/2008 15:34
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mailinator

Simple question:
Do you think it ok to link to porn sites from here and disguise them as links to goals.
Forget whether you take steps not to open links when your son is present.
Do you think it's ok?

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 15:35
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flaps, just quit. These people probably have their computers riddled with spyware and viruses as they take no responsibility to take precautions with links they click on.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 15:35
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tbh i didnt think it would get anywhere near the ton mark, but you certainly can hold an argument i give you that!

Muttley Posted on 27/08/2008 15:36
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Trod, "As a father, I don't sit browsing the Internet when he is in the room because, a: it's potentially harmful if something like this happens and b: it's fooking ignorant."

Well good luck with that stance. If you think you will be able to look at the internet in some vacuum bubble away from your children you are coming over more precious than those condemning it. As Flaps admitted earlier it was a "trick". That is INTENDED to deceive. The very fact that the link has now been removed has demonstrated that the administrators on this board would accept that the posting was unsuitable. I cannot believe that some people are prepared to defend the poster who made it. And even he has stayed out of the debate. I also think that calling people the names that have been used on here is unhelpful.

Flaps, I take from your last post that you would actually agree that the post was inappropriate? If not at what level would you draw the line? Anything goes? Kiddie pr0n? Snuff? Oh it's all good fun out there in cyber space?

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:36
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an example of onthemap posting football chat, in a child friendly fashion:

"Picture the scene . . you come home from work and the door is opened by your woman who's wearing nothing apart from one of your shirts. Her long legs disappear invitingly up into the shirt and she walks slowly up the stairs, beckoning you with her finger and a 'come to bed ' look in her eye.

Isn't it great how a woman wearing a man's shirt can be so sexy."

Dare I say it..hypocrite scum? From a family of hypocritical scumbags who probably enjoyed badger baiting and abusing black people in the street. Scum.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 15:36
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[:D]haha Gz on the ton btw and almost a half [:P]

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 15:37
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well said muttley

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:38
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"Flaps, I take from your last post that you would actually agree that the post was inappropriate? If not at what level would you draw the line? Anything goes? Kiddie pr0n? Snuff? Oh it's all good fun out there in cyber space?"

Of course it was inappropriate. This is a middlesbrough fc message board and should be for discussing football and other local issues only.

However, as this is an undermoderated forum, where anybody can post a link, to assume that this ideal is followed at all times is naive. Hence the need for vigilence and supervision.

If an adult cannot determine which links are appropriate, and which are not, don't click them as you might get an unwelcome surprise. That's the Internet - it's just the way it is.

redbookboro1 Posted on 27/08/2008 15:40
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Ok thanks rant over now

onthemap Posted on 27/08/2008 15:40
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mailinator won't answer, I suspect it's because deep down he agrees, he's a decent guy arguing a point over virus protection, but ultimately he knows what the issue is.

flaps, yes I'm a keen badger baiter and I regularly abuse myself - I'm black you see.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:41
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"he's a decent guy arguing a point over virus protection, but ultimately he knows what the issue is."

He wasn't arguing that at all. You have serious comprehension problems.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 15:41
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if you had said that in the first place i would never had got near the ton up cheers for finally admitting it was inappropriate.

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 15:41
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muttley, it's pretty easy not to sit browsing the Internet for recreation when my son is around. I don't get why you think that is hard?

OnTheMap, no I don't think it's ok. There's a lot posted on here that I don't think is ok either but it's a messageboard and you don't have any control over what is here. That's why you have to take measures to protect yourself.

flaps Posted on 27/08/2008 15:42
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"if you had said that in the first place i would never had got near the ton up cheers for finally admitting it was inappropriate"

I never said otherwise.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 15:44
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you never said otherwise but you never actually admitted it was inappropriate.

Muttley Posted on 27/08/2008 15:47
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Trod, so you think that the internet is SO dangerous that minors should be excluded from the room before you even venture there?

The point is that this board is a FOOTBALL board and such links are NOT welcome. Saying that you should supervise the use is just abdicating responsibility from the person who posted the link. It's not to say that the viewer does not bear a measure of responsibility but when a post is INTENDED to deceive then in my view the majority of the responsibility should lie with the perpetrator.

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 15:50
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map, reply is above.

I think the problem is that people have taken flaps original post as being a defense of the original posting (and mine too for that matter) when the point is that you can't get people to self-regulate what they post. It's not ideal but there you have it.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 15:51
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go for it muttley, mailinator has had too easy for too long now, especially after bullying boro_bliss

scare_glow Posted on 27/08/2008 15:54
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"I cannot believe that some people are prepared to defend the poster who made it. And even he has stayed out of the debate"




sorry, been too busy laughing

onthemap Posted on 27/08/2008 15:57
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Sorry mailinator I didn't see your answer.

I for one am not looking at this any other way, the peadophile comments are bang out of order, that's obvious.

I just can't see how anyone would argue that the responsibility is with whoever clicks the links. It's clearly not, I expect whoever put's links up to say at the very least if they're NSW, it's not on to disguise porn on a board like this.

Your son will expect the same one day.

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 15:57
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fabrizio, what on Earth are you jabbering on about?

muttley:

"Trod, so you think that the internet is SO dangerous that minors should be excluded from the room before you even venture there?"

No muttley, but of course I didn't say that, did I? Try reading my post and stop making up what you *think* I meant and posting it back to me.

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 15:58
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AAHH HAH he's over here everyone , get him now ,all pile on!!

mailinator Posted on 27/08/2008 16:06
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mappy, you asked if it was ok, and I answered at 15:41 above. I'm not justifying the original link post at all.

fabrizio, you could at least show a bit of class and apologise for your paedo comments.

fox16 Posted on 27/08/2008 16:07
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Flaps your a tit mate

fabrizio Posted on 27/08/2008 16:17
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mailinator - I ALREADY APOLOGISED AND TWICE FOR THAT MATTER BUT IT APPARENTLY ALL WENT OVER FLAPS HEAD

oops soory left caps on