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The_Dude Posted on 04/08/2008 20:55
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hands up if you think they are a rascist party

Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 21:00
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If they are Racist then so are the SNP.

The_Dude Posted on 04/08/2008 21:01
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whats the Snp?

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 21:02
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Of course they are a racist party.

What specific argument are you looking for tonight?

wokingmassive Posted on 04/08/2008 21:05
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Which party is the really in-ept, dithering, fook wits?


oh yea - Labour - thats it.

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 21:05
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so you are affirming they are rascist, on what grounds

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 21:06
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pssssssssss

RatanTata Posted on 04/08/2008 21:09
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1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:11
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Do an "FAO Rodney_Trotter". He organises rallies and promotional tours for Nick Griffin and co.

riggyblaster Posted on 04/08/2008 21:13
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we will see one elected in the next 20yrs
then we may see some more get in to parliament

i expect to see a muslim pm just before i die

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 21:14
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well, thats a bit of a crap generalisation that doesnt even answer the original question in my view, of course race facilliates different character or traits, for instance, a muslim is often deluded with exsistence of a creator , whereas a typical non muslim may not, i cannot see how the fact that either one cannot agree means they are both rascist to one another

HolgateEnd Posted on 04/08/2008 21:15
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I think a lot of people believe the hype that they're a racist party when in fact they aren't. The BNP is not racist, the national front is. Unfortunately, its mainly NF people that turn up to the BNP rallies and cause the trouble, which confuses people and gives the BNP a bad name.

If you actually read into the BNP and what they want/their policies would be, its quite interesting really. They want a country where british people are put first. They dont want to ethnic cleanse or owt like that like the media would have you believe, they just want the british to be the priority for things like benefits, jobs, healthcare and stuff like that.

Christ, I'm starting to sound like a bnp canvasser, which I'm not. I'm not a member, and I'm not involved with them whatsoever. Just like everyone to be given fair press.

Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 21:15
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Im not a racist by any means but I will honestly throw myself off a rooftop if a Muslim becomes PM.

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 21:16
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it seems to me that blind acceptance of anybodybodys or any races 'belief' system,particually around races of religious cultures no matter how crude or unsophisticated they seem, is compulsary, and the moment you question it,you are deemed rascist

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:20
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HolgateEnd, you obviously don't know much about BNP and it's members if you think they aren't racist.

CalgarySmog Posted on 04/08/2008 21:26
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I'm a member and i'm not racist, just want the country to get it's priorities back in order and start looking after the Indigenous people. too many liberals in this country who pander for everyones needs and human rights other than white peoples..!!

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:28
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"I'm a member and i'm not racist, just want the country to get it's priorities back in order and start looking after the Indigenous people. too many liberals in this country who pander for everyones needs and human rights other than white peoples..!!"

Hahahahaha!

Oooo Posted on 04/08/2008 21:28
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LOL calgary -"other than white people" - sounds racist to me. What does the skin pigment colour havbe to do with anything?

CalgarySmog Posted on 04/08/2008 21:33
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Oooo - the skin colour shouldn't have anything to do with it - but it does. the simple mentioning of 'white' anything instantly makes people think you're racist...! how come there's 'asian radio' and 'asian' this, that and the other.. I have no problem with this but as soon as anyone mentions 'white' your branded a racist..!

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:38
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It's more to do with the context in which you've used it. Durrrr!

HolgateEnd Posted on 04/08/2008 21:38
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Really Kev?
I've looked into fairly in depth a couple of years ago, but even looking at their website now, what they want is what I said - to make brits the priority and want the brits to feel safe in our own country. If that makes them racist, then you must be a mentalist.

Like I said, too many people confuse them with the national front.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:41
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Yeah, HolgateEnd I can just see the BNP glorifying themselves as racists on their own site FFS!

It's disillusioned folk like you that fall for their bullS*** propaganda.

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 21:41
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Thanks Calgary.

Just let them speak and eventually they reveal their core belief.

Holgate End, the BNP can never be given a fair crack of the whip.

The suit wearing crew at the top of the BNP tree at the moment are slightly cleverer than previous attempts by racist parties at gaining credibility.

Have a flick through this article and then have a look at Searchlight. It should should soon rebalamce your view of them




Link: Clever Fascist Bastards

Dr_Evil Posted on 04/08/2008 21:41
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I like the way you have adopted the durr from my speak.

krissyyork Posted on 04/08/2008 21:42
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Kev i diasagree with what you just said,

it was illiterate

you should have said Derrr Brain instead if Durrr IMO!!

Hercules Posted on 04/08/2008 21:42
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I've only read down to Ratan Tata's definition but there are differences in ability between races.

Who are the best runners?

Who are the best swimmers?

Black or white people?

Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 21:42
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Its got nothing to do with skin colour. I wouldnt want aload of Frenchies running around the streets, i couldnt give a toss if brownie or yellow live down the street.

Its got to do with national pride. Some people are fools.. they will be the first to moan at the state of the country and how other countries dont have problems with this and that... yet they are also the first people to use the dreaded 'R' word.

Hey, I can read newspapers too you know, let all form an opinion on aload of nonsense FACTS collected together with the soul purpose of making money out of the exact people mentioned about.

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 21:45
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Thats right Calgary Asian this and that, if only some upstanding citizen had the gumption to create something called, oh I don't know, the British Broadcasting Corporation for example eh.

CalgarySmog Posted on 04/08/2008 21:45
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What Holgate said - spot on..!

Silbannacus Posted on 04/08/2008 21:52
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They're dangerous radical morons. Just like decent left and his ilk.

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 21:53
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Go on then Sil. Explain further.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:54
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It would of course be "spot on" if he wasn't contradicting himself.

How can you explain the fact that the BNP do not consider any non-white people to be British; or only allow indigenous Caucasians as members of it's party; or how can this from the BNP constitution not be be perceived as racist: "committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration..."?

The BNP are a homophobic, racist, anti-Semitic, Islamphobic, xenophobic, narrow-minded, bigoted, prejudice bunch of coonts.


Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 21:54
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Not saying that you should vote BNP or Kilroy or blahdyblahdyblah but why does Brown or Cameron deserve to be in power any more than anyone else?

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 21:57
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yes, lets all be blind acceptors, that way, when the streets are ridden with sharia law, and its lawful for muslims to kill there own daughters cos they wont marry sum mongoloid fat ugly C*** from some other deluded family cos mohammed says so, at least youll be able to say, well, the humanrace is totally F***ing stupid and gormless but at least i accept its stupidity, and by doing so i am somehow altruistic to my fellow man

the sooner we abolish stupid religions and races that wrongly dictate peoples lifes telling them what to east, who to shag and what time there allowed to have a S***e, the better

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:57
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Because it's a democracy Manco, and the voting public vote for the party they want.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 21:59
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[:D]

Fooking Hell, this is nuts!

Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 21:59
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Obviously, but why is it unthinkable that Labour or Tories dont get the vote?

I would love to see the faces on some if LibDems or BNP got into office.

At the end of the day I wouldnt trust I single one of them with running a cake stand. I wont be marking any x's in my lifetime thatss for sure.

zzzzz Posted on 04/08/2008 22:00
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"how come there's 'asian radio' and 'asian' this, that and the other"

And you're not racist?

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:02
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you can have any party in britain, blindly accepted by all these namby pamby arty farty liberals, as long as it isnt one that promotes indigenous white people, that is in no doubt

zzzzz Posted on 04/08/2008 22:02
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"I wont be marking any x's in my lifetime thatss for sure."

Thats the way.

Are you 12?

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:03
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I'm not sure what you're asking, Manco.


Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 22:06
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Yes I'm 12 and spend my evenings talking about politics and such.


I just dont understand why people will only accept Labour or Conservatives into power? Yet when a party comes along with new ideas that could bring back the country most Britains want, our Media hound them out to be racists.

Its all about money at the end of the day, what a sad world we live in.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:07
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What about indigenous non-white people, Grand_Master?

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 22:08
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G_M B, you know F***ing well that is not true.. I have spent more time than enough in the last 4 years fighting with the tossers in Respect, due to the paymasters beliefs and views on how to achieve things standing in the exact same communalist spot as the BNP.

CalgarySmog Posted on 04/08/2008 22:08
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Zzzz - not at all, just stating a fact..!! I have friends of various different race. just making a point that you'd never see 'white radio' - and it's only because people are too scared that it could be perceived as racist...!

AlBoro1984 Posted on 04/08/2008 22:09
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Nick Griffin is an arsehole. I suppose getting convicted of inciting racial hatred and calling Islam "a wicked and vicious faith" make him a top bloke, not racist in the slightest...

I fail to understand how anyone with an ounce of intelligence have any respect for this man or his party.

zzzzz Posted on 04/08/2008 22:09
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"what most Britain's want"

Wrong.

Theres a reason they're a minority party. Its because only halfwits bother to listen to them.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:10
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"..most Britains want.."

Have a fooking word with yourself! If "most" Brits wanted this then the BNP or like party would have significantly more people voting for them then they currently do.

"Its all about money at the end of the day, what a sad world we live in."

No, it's about not wanting sniveling little pricks like Nick Griffin and co in power.

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 22:11
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Manco - its because they are racists thats why.

Calgary - WTF are you on about now. Asian is a geographical point of origin, white is a skin colour. Sorry, I forgot your a racist T***.

br14 Posted on 04/08/2008 22:11
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"But the truth is that as each year goes by our job is getting harder. There is an ever-growing list of wards at risk to the BNP, itís becoming more difficult to turn out our voters and even when we do prevent the BNP from winning we do so by increasing turnout rather than necessarily reducing the BNPís support."

Read most of the article Decent Left. Sounds awfully like these folks don't appreciate democracy when it leads to parties that disagree.

If the "party that shall not be named" is racist, then I assume the hate laws will see them all arrested.

The article seems to be implying that the traditional working class "white" Labour voter believes the party no longer looks after their interests, and is moving to other parties.

Seems the working poor are thinking for themselves rather than doing what the intelligensia tell them to think.

I think this says more about the Labour party than it says about the BNP.

HolgateEnd Posted on 04/08/2008 22:13
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You got all of that from one quote which may have been taken out of context from the whole paragraph/page!!!

Sorry, but I dont see whats wrong with a party who wants to put brits first for a change. Maybe they would be the wrong party to get in power. One thing we all know, is that we'll never know if they dont get a chance.

We continuously moan about Labour and the Conservs bullS***ting us all and doing a crap job (both of which I agree with), and about more and more becoming second class citizens in our own country, but we'ree all too scared to do anything about it.

I dont have a problem with people born in england coming first regardless of colour or owt else. What I have a problem with is Europeans, asians, chinese and anyone else coming here for a free ride. Most of the time through several other 'safe countries' en route.

And the fact that the more immigrants come in, (a) the more it costs us, (b) the more crime is committed, (c) the more suceptible to terrorist attacks we are and so on and so on.

At least if the bnp get a go, we might be able to call a blackboard a blackboard and continue to celebrate christmas without the worry of offending people who werent born here anyway!!!

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:15
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"Sorry, but I dont see whats wrong with a party who wants to put brits first for a change"

Despite their policies being detrimental *to* Britain and *to* the British people?

"At least if the bnp get a go, we might be able to call a blackboard a blackboard and continue to celebrate christmas without the worry of offending people who werent born here anyway!!!"

This sums up your ignorance, as if the remainder of your post didn't anyway.

Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 22:16
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I think you are missing the point abit there guys.

Most people may want it... but who is going to vote for a party labelled as racists? Not many people, and thats why they are a minor party because people are fed information that they want you to believe (not stating any info is either true nor false!)


Do you want a poligimist immigrant coming into Britian and claming benifits for all 4 of his family? I dont care what you say, I know for aa fact that you dont.
Now, whilst this is happening under Labour, a BNP policy may state this cannot happen, however, they are racists so we must not listen to them and make do with Labour, despite not being happy with their policies.

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:16
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when people say skin colour, only a moron would believe the poster was actually refering to a pigment in the skin,its both insulting and stupid, when people refer to black, they are not being predudice to a skin colour, just a draconian belief system that could one day destroy democracy, when people refer to white as apposed to no white, the topic is nothing to do with genetic skin pigmentation, its just if you argued it on belief systems you wonuld get the samne effect because to many people fail to see the damage caused by religion and religious beliefs

AlBoro1984 Posted on 04/08/2008 22:16
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"We continuously moan about Labour and the Conservs bullS***ting us all and doing a crap job (both of which I agree with), and about more and more becoming second class citizens in our own country, but we're all too scared to do anything about it."

This was the German's argument for voting in the Nazi party. Replace Jews with immigrants.

CalgarySmog Posted on 04/08/2008 22:17
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D_L - Say what the fcuk you like, I'm not a racist.

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 22:19
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It does say as much about Labour as the BNP. Nulab was that desperate to connect with Mondeo Man, it cast itself adrift from its core vote. The revenge doesn't always end up with the fascists, it usually ends up with party that can do Nulab most harm. In certain areas this means the BNP.

As for the BNP, well the best advert about what a pack of F***wit numpties they are is what happens when they do get elected. A more incompetent shower of dicks you are unlikely to see anywhere outside of a Respect Renewal conference.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:21
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"Most people may want it... but who is going to vote for a party labelled as racists? Not many people, and thats why they are a minor party because people are fed information that they want you to believe (not stating any info is either true nor false!)"

No, the public are fed facts that highlight the BNP as racists; as homophobes; as anti-Semites; as Islamaphobes. People won't vote for them not simply becuase of this but becuase their policies are absolute bobbins, likewise Greenpeace, UKIP, Monster Raving Loony... and so on.

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 04/08/2008 22:22
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iam english and proud,foookkkk the british party,,,what about the english national party,,,if ya english no matter what colour skin and were born in england then your my brother your english be proud,,,

Decent_Left Posted on 04/08/2008 22:23
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Calgary - The first 3 words of your statement at 21.26 proves you to be just that. Or unbelievably thick, which is usually the entrance point for BNP members, that and being a racist.

Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 22:23
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Fair enough, Who do you vote for KBB, and may I ask which of their policies you particularly like?

Muttley Posted on 04/08/2008 22:26
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BNP are vile racist scum, saying that you don't KNOW they are vile racist scum and are therefore worthy of letting them have a go at government is simply proof of your own ignorance. Do some research don't take the opinion of someone on a football message board.

Incidentally, through the years we have had periodic "visitors" to this board who have tried to present the BNP in a "favourable light". You should remember that the clever people at BNP recruitment feel that we as football supporters are fertile ground for their pernicious brand of vile lies. Use your own judgement and do some reading.

br14 Posted on 04/08/2008 22:27
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"This was the German's argument for voting in the Nazi party. Replace Jews with immigrants."

I think you're missing the point. The point is that Labours ardour for votes means they have left their traditional voters behind and are striving for the centre.

This effectively leaves the working poor under represented.

You may consider folks that follow the BNP as racists, but I'd suggest you ignore them at your peril.

The class system is alive and well in Britain. Racism may be outlawed, but discrimation of other kinds is alive and well.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:27
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Well I wont be voting anyone next time around. I would consider myself Labour but I've had my fill of them. I despise the Tories with a passion and a vote for Lib Dem is wasted and worthless. There's no other party that appeal to me.

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:29
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i'd like to know what vile and scum means,if i dont like a particualr way of life, say muslim religion, on the basis that it denies people a free life and forces them to obey some fairytale god, that i am rascist vile sum, yet if i did except them, but occasionaly give my girlfirend a good beating, everything in the world accoring to some would be fine and good, there are so many people who claim to be gooder than good, and simply are not, yet they are first in the line to condem the actions of others in a hypocritical manner, let he without sin,cast the first stone

br14 Posted on 04/08/2008 22:30
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"let he without sin,cast the first stone"

Nice quote from another fairy tale god. [;)]

Muttley Posted on 04/08/2008 22:31
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And that Kevin is an abdication of your responsibilities. Less than 33% of the German electorate voted Nazi in 1933. Vote Green or whatever but your vote is important.

Manco_Joe Posted on 04/08/2008 22:31
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Fair doos Kevin, your alright you.

Im off for a good old cup of tea and then bed anyway, getting square eyes sat infrontt of this box.

Toodle Pip

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:32
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So you support BNP because you don't like Muslims and their lifestyle???

Muttley Posted on 04/08/2008 22:33
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"say muslim religion, on the basis that it denies people a free life and forces them to obey some fairytale god" if you use a direct quote from the Daily Mail it is considered good form to acknowledge it.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:37
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I don't think there is a Green candidate in my constituent, Muttley. There's only Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, UKIP and BNP that I'm aware of, what a choice!!!

wokingmassive Posted on 04/08/2008 22:37
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If you dont vote - you dont matter.

Everyone should vote.

In some countries people are fighting and dying just for the right to vote - so bare that in mind when its time to cast yours.




Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:37
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i think you come across a bit silly there bri, i was taking the P***

HolgateEnd Posted on 04/08/2008 22:39
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You do that kev. Because for every non-voter, it magnifies the choice of someone who did vote.

Voting for no-one is the worst possible thing as a party will be voted in without the public being fully represented. Doing that will also give you no moral right to complain for the next however many years until they are voted back out.

Muttley, you have absolutely no right to judge any other person. If the lad wants to be a member, so what. He might not be a racist. He might just want Brits to come first in our own country.

Do some reading and research yourself and you'll see that a lot of the stuff printed about them being racist etc is bollox. It entirely depends on how you interpret 'the facts'...

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:40
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i think we should pick kevin bacon as new pm, going from previous form on board, doesnt actually have anything interesting to say apart from just ctritiscising anybody elses opinion without adding anything of his own thoughts

make a top pm

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:43
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HolgateEnd. I've been a Labour supporter all my life just as my family are too, but I couldn't bring myself to vote for any other party.

"Do some reading and research yourself and you'll see that a lot of the stuff printed about them being racist etc is bollox. It entirely depends on how you interpret 'the facts'..."

Are you serious? The BNP's own constitution shows them up for the racists they are. There's no twisting of facts; they are racists. Take your blinkers off FFS!

Muttley Posted on 04/08/2008 22:44
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"He might just want Brits to come first in our own country."

Explain to me how that is NOT racist. How would you make "Brits come first" without discrimination?

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:45
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so you are saying the labour is a collective thing for all your family kevin,isn't that an agreement based on a family instinct rather than one based on research and facts?

NSB_19 Posted on 04/08/2008 22:47
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So many immature child like people on here. The IQ on here is way below average.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:48
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No, it means I come from a Labour supporting family.

Muttley Posted on 04/08/2008 22:49
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Perhaps you could also define what is a "Brit", is it me a second generation bog trotter or my black neighbour who is three generations British?

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:50
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well, isnt that a little bit stupid and totaly backs up what everybody is saying on here, blind belief in a political party just cos granpa joes says so, jeezzzzz lewweezzzzzz, and cos it sfamily tradition, its almost a religion

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:54
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No, I supported Labour because their policies were appealing to me, the same reason that my Granddad did and my Dad when he was living here.

Muttley Posted on 04/08/2008 22:54
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Who is "British" come on someone define it for me? How long do I have to be here to qualify?

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:55
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what specific policies

ridsdale Posted on 04/08/2008 22:55
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Most tories vote tory because their mummies and daddies do.




Apparantly, labour are a bunch of commies who will steal the family home and silver.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 22:56
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They promised to wash my balls, but seeing as they've dropped that I've become disillusioned with the party. Blair/Brown copped out and it P***ed me off!

Grand_Master_B Posted on 04/08/2008 22:58
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so youve just been generalising all this time just to shoot down followers of the bnp,thought you might have had some evidence of the benefits of labour seen as how you have transcended the generations voting for them

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 23:01
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Yeah, how silly of me. What have I been doing? Perhaps, I should have just started with some anti-Islam and racist nonsense and then spat the dummy when someone decides to give a daft response to a question... oh wait.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/08/2008 23:02
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Is it just me or is the BNP trying to make itself look respectable when it's nowt else than a bunch of neo-nazis? They just seem to be repackaging themselves. Even if they've modified their policies to make themselves appear non-racist, I think it would be a fair guess that most of their members are NF types.

I will say that I'm all for looking after those that are British citizens and whose loyalty is to this country, irrespective of race, colour or creed. We need to minimise what the benefits system is paying out, which means getting lazy chavs (who are mainly white, remember) off benefits and working. If that means less jobs for East European immigrants, so be it. To be fair to those immigrants, they're generally a bunch of honest hard-working types who want to get on, but we need to reduce this country's reliance on them.

bblf Posted on 04/08/2008 23:02
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The Labour party are a racist party.How many jobs can be advertised as "we would particularly encourage a white person to apply for this post".How many jobs can you legally have worse qualifications and experience than anyone else but still get it because you are white. Yet both are acceptable if applied to ethnic minorities.

ridsdale Posted on 04/08/2008 23:07
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There is a percentage of low skilled almost unemployable whites who the intelligentsia on here like to mock as chavs.

Equally there are many blacks and Asians who are capable of working but prefer to fiddle, deal drugs etc.

What about all those in London, where there is plenty of work, yet in parts on London there is high unemployment, mainly among second generation immigrants?


sossage Posted on 04/08/2008 23:14
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Our liberal media and this ultra left-wing Labour Government have conspired to stifle the free-speech of the B.N.P at every opportunity. We must do what we can to stand up for the B.N.P and other free-thinking organisations, otherwise the future of Britain within the next decade will go something like thisÖ

In Britain, they came first for the Xenophobes, and I didnít speak up because I wasnít a Xenophobe;
And then they came for the racists, and I didnít speak up because I wasnít a racist;
And then they came for the fascists, and I didnít speak up because I wasnít a fascist;
And then . . . they came for me . . . but by that time they were too late as Iíd already retired to Spain or Goa or somewhere.

redwurzel Posted on 04/08/2008 23:15
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I would not vote BNP, but it does surprise how me how liberal our society is. Many other Europeans are not commited to multi cultural society as the majority of society is in Britain. They accept outsiders, but more as guests than full citizens. If trends continue Britain will be a non white country as many parts of London are. I am not making a value judgement just an observation of how British, particularly English society is changing.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 23:16
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"Our liberal media and this ultra left-wing Labour Government have conspired to stifle the free-speech of the B.N.P"

Deary me.


ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/08/2008 23:17
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[:D] I nearly bit at that sossage. You can take yer tongue out of yer cheek now!

Lisbonlegend Posted on 04/08/2008 23:19
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The problem is racism versus common sense, unfortunately we've allowed our government to forget what common sense means.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 23:20
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redwurzel, the chances of Britain becoming a predominately non-white nation any time soon are incredibly slim. Such is life that society changes what it is today is different to what it was 25, 50, 100 years go and it will forever change, never to remain the same.

ridsdale Posted on 04/08/2008 23:28
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If all the left have to offer is screaming 'nazi!' and 'fascist!' at anyone who is attracted to the BNP then that is their own fault.

They have not in recent years put forward a popular and understandable alternative. Preferring to retire into their intellectual shells.

The new left moan and insult, but have lost the art of making socialism attractive.

sossage Posted on 04/08/2008 23:30
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"The new left moan and insult, but have lost the art of making socialism attractive."

Yep - just look at Clare Short.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 23:31
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Well the BNP are far from "popular and understandable".

hadawaynshite Posted on 04/08/2008 23:34
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I think some people need to look into the history of this country of ours. Other peoples have been coming onto these shores for thousands of years ffs, the Romans, The Saxons, The Vikings, The Normans, I was told that your own accent on Teesside is so different to the rest of the North East of England due to the high influx of Irish labour to the area during the Industrial revolution.

There is no such thing as "English blood" we are a mongrel race.

BNP are a grubby little party followed by small minded bigots, dress them up as you like that fact wont change.

ridsdale Posted on 04/08/2008 23:35
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I agree Kevin. However a growing number of voters are willing to give them a try because they are so F***** off with existing parties.

I hear a lot of insults, white chav and so on, I don't hear any explanation of how labour corrupted to new labour, or any real explanation of why a party based on race rather than class would be very bad for working people.

Which it would.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 04/08/2008 23:39
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Really?

Have a look at the working people of the country. They're not all white.

Kevin_Bacon_Butties Posted on 04/08/2008 23:43
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"However a growing number of voters are willing to give them a try because they are so F***** off with existing parties."

But are these people voting for BNP because they actually see them as a viable and workable alternative or voting simply because they are disillusioned and apathetic with other parties?

How many people voting for BNP actually do understand the party and their policies, etc. and aren't simply under this false idea that they actually want what's best for Britain and it's people.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 04/08/2008 23:48
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"There is a percentage of low skilled almost unemployable whites who the intelligentsia on here like to mock as chavs.

Equally there are many blacks and Asians who are capable of working but prefer to fiddle, deal drugs etc."

That has to be one of the single most racist points of views I've ever heard on fmttm. If they are white they are 'almost unemployable mocked chavs', but it they are black or asian and capable they become drug dealers.

What a load of B*******, utter utter B*******, like there are no whitedrug dealers.

New low for the board.

On topic - anyone who believes the BNP are not racist, doesn't know enough about them.

Although I despise labour to use their downfall as a reason to vote for a far right party strikes me as naive. Its seems the BNP propagander brigade is in full swing, as I can see no logical connection between the two.



Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 04/08/2008 23:49
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I think there are a few on this thread who are missing the trick:

' the press would have us all believe the BNP are racist thugs'

errrrrr, and the BNP would have us all believe they just want whats best for 'us' Brits and are protecting 'our' culture!
Don't be so bloody naive!

They masquerade behind the pretense of protecting British culture to appeal to those disillusioned with the other parties,the daily mail population and those (like myself) who don't really pay too much attention to any of it
They are sinister and a naughty bunch

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 05/08/2008 00:02
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The nazis in 1930s Germany were the masters of propaganda and spin. Unfortunately, their people fell for it. I'd like to think the British electorate are intelligent enough to see right through the BNP for what they are. We can't afford to be complacent though.

gravyboat Posted on 05/08/2008 00:06
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Well, if the opinion of the British public matches that of half the comments on this thread PTCFT, you're going to be awfully disappointed.

Is there somebody I can vote for who wants to purge the country of F***wits, instead?

If not, might start one.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 05/08/2008 00:12
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Gravyboat, I'm used to disappointment being a Boro fan! I don't think this board is that representative of Boro fans, never mind the general public. After all, most Boro fans I know are intelligent, rational people.

TS4-EIO Posted on 05/08/2008 00:15
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BNP
i hope they are cheaper than NPOWER

br14 Posted on 05/08/2008 00:17
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"The nazis in 1930s Germany were the masters of propaganda and spin."

Maybe so, but the elite dismissed the masses as unemployable chavs. Sound familiar?

Add that to the economic issues the country faced, and it was easy to blame minorities for their problems. Hitler got the unemployable chavs to work and made them feel good about themselves.

You'll note that todays Germany is particularly careful to maintain a distinction between immigrants and nationals. Is it because they're racist? Or is it because they're scared they'll get a repeat performance.

The UK could learn a lesson from the rest of Europe, and stop making the profit margins of big corporations the main driver for policy.

TS4-EIO Posted on 05/08/2008 00:19
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we should have lost the fooking war

gravyboat Posted on 05/08/2008 00:21
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Actually, I think there is a LOT of people who would consider voting BNP if they thought it was socially acceptable.

I work with quite a few people - and I'm talking men and women in their forties who are fathers and mothers, and generally fairly well to do and nothing but nice generally - who have made sympathetic noises towards them. And it's down to nothing more than ignorance and fear. People need to educate themselves more.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 05/08/2008 00:22
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No, TS4. We should HAVE lost the fooking war.

TS4-EIO Posted on 05/08/2008 00:24
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thats what i said

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 05/08/2008 00:27
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Sly edit there, I notice! We might have lost the war if all our servicemen were like you, TS4. I know you'd be no use in throwing grenades at the enemy judging by what I saw on the cricket pitch.

TS4-EIO Posted on 05/08/2008 00:28
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my grenades would hit every time, especially if it was a pakastani

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 05/08/2008 00:30
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You'd have to be an incredibly accurate shot then (which you weren't) as there weren't too many Pakistanis in the Wehrmacht.

TS4-EIO Posted on 05/08/2008 00:32
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i now realise why you made so many mistakes in the field, you wern't actually watching the game

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 05/08/2008 00:34
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How d'yer work that out?

TS4-EIO Posted on 05/08/2008 00:37
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just get over it
you know how good you were and i know how much better i was

gibosgimp Posted on 05/08/2008 00:52
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would you rather die than let a muslim doctor help you,fu**ing retards,,,,

zaphod Posted on 05/08/2008 05:16
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New Labour didn't desert its traditional voters. It moved rightwards because the country moved that way. Old Labour became unelectable. I'm baffled by Labour voters who seem to yearn for the policies of the catastrophic 1970s (which was the last time old-style Labour was in power).

Most voters are in the centre, which is why BNP will never get many votes.

TEEBAG Posted on 05/08/2008 11:31
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you can't vote for them anyway if they dont stand in your area can you?
How do you find out what parties are standing in your local area?

Kilburn Posted on 05/08/2008 12:13
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It is a sad fact that 10% or more of the voters in every European country have broadly fascist views.

In some countries, where these views are seen as more acceptable, they vote for far-right parties such as the Front National in France, who have regularly managed to attract a double figure share of the vote in national elections.

In other countries, such as the UK and (unsurprisingly) Germany there is still a much bigger stigma attached to far-right parties because of their Nazi overtones. As a result, the BNP have never managed even 1% of the national share of the vote, and the rest of the voters with far-right leanings tend to be attracted to the right wing of the Conservative Party.

The Tories are well aware of this, but equally aware that it would be suicide for them to admit it. Instead, they quietly try to keep this valuable 10% of the vote onside by making sure that they fit in a few 'hardline' messages on immigration and social policy alongside the 'caring Conservative' stuff aimed at attracting middleground voters.

Fabio_Go_Go Posted on 05/08/2008 13:43
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At the moment there doesnt seem to be a political party that truly stands for traditional British values and represents the genuine hard-working people of this country.

Race, skin colour, background, religion should all be irrelevent to any political party in this day and age. The things that should be important are:
Looking after workers
helping less well-off WORKING families with tax breaks etc
dealing with repeat offenders much more harshly
developing a pride within society
providing decent education / healthcare for free
less stealth taxes
better public services
cut benefits / support for the masses which are simply too lazy to work and expect the country to provide them with a living and their luxories (sp)

Britain should be tougher with its immigration policies
there needs to be less self-serving politians and their minions
but its we the voter that put up with it.

Why is the only public building in this country in which you can smoke Wesminster??

Why do politions get paid such huge expenses tax free, paid by us?

Theres only the voters that can change these things!

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 05/08/2008 13:56
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the bnp think that mixed marriage races are wrong. that makes them racist.

there was a BNP job up at the GLA recently. I was thinking of applying and going along to the interview blacked up.

p.s. you cant smoke in westminster. and its not a public building i dont think. its owned by the crown. like prisons. where you can smoke.

Rod100 Posted on 05/08/2008 14:03
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anyone who thinks that BNP party is the way forward for this country needs to have a long look at themselves.

"its all the immigrants fault taking OUR jobs" - yes of course it is you dole walling T*** [:D]

Fabio_Go_Go Posted on 05/08/2008 14:09
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S_J_B - see link

It is a place of work, a van is a private vehicle but if used to deliver stuff as the persons business then you cant smoke in it.

IMO the BNP is a rasict party

but it leaves people with little choice if they are sick of being walked over by labour and historically think that the tories do not represent their interests


Link: double standards

gibosgimp Posted on 05/08/2008 14:44
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i have a buisness i would employ poles or any other race,culture,
i`d pay the same wage,like some other posts get the lazy ba***ds off the dole.These people want to work,sort our own sh*te out first..or are you that blinkered...

Anim8 Posted on 05/08/2008 15:19
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This board at times, is capable of providing threads of the most extraordinary insight; and then there are these.

Itís like lifting a stone and watching the insects run about.

gibosgimp Posted on 05/08/2008 15:28
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There is one question i would really like to know this is a football forum,and this racist rant,,,does that meen all black and foreign,footballers would be subject to all of your values?
Which is send the buggers back?

woodymfc Posted on 05/08/2008 15:31
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cant see how any boro fans could be racist unless you dont look at the pitch

Muttley Posted on 05/08/2008 15:33
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It's not easy being a nazi, so much to hate, so little time.

Fabio_Go_Go Posted on 05/08/2008 15:36
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Woody - to be fair we dont't have that many 'darkies' compared to other clubs [;)]


(Tongue firmly in cheek)

woodymfc Posted on 05/08/2008 15:38
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[:O]

Muttley Posted on 05/08/2008 15:39
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Is it considered bad form to lead with the left foot when goose-stepping?

joseph99 Posted on 05/08/2008 16:04
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There is certainly a growing under-current of racial tension amongst the younger generation. They are pointing their finger and looking to blame someone for the seemingly hopeless position they find themselves in. I have been labour through and through for years but over time I have become to realise that there is a real dearth of genuine caring politicians - and this scarity is increasing. Pathetic anodyne policies that simply raise more tax and give less hope to the under-privelege are areas that need to be addressed.

I am sick of voting for these parasites and don't mention Sir Stuart Bell FFS. I would like to see some radical politics and policies that are well thought out - not half-baked and media-driven that mean actually mean something and which are underpinned by a strategy of care not cash. It's not so much multi-culturism where there is a problem - it is the lack of identity, purpose and hope for many.

Education education education - spin spin spin - we can't even mark SATS exams FFS. For instance - why not toughen up on criminals, violent thugs etc that is affecting white and ethnic areas.

gibosgimp Posted on 05/08/2008 16:25
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Education education education - spin spin spin - we can't even mark SATS exams FFS. For instance - why not toughen up on criminals, violent thugs etc that is affecting white and ethnic areas.Dont upset criminals one just had a 12 month suspended sentence,for aggrivate vechile theft and had a tag put on ,,,
he was in the pub all saturday night,he lives near my mams..GOD SAVE THE QUEEN,AND LAND OF HOPE AND GLORY....were doomed,

gibosgimp Posted on 05/08/2008 16:29
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OH, i forgot to mention he`s a BNP memmber ...no names,,,if your a memmber you`ll know him...