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boroprogrammes Posted on 5/10 21:03
Anyone got the Oasis DVD

Fcuking brill.

stipey Posted on 5/10 21:04
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totally agree, superb. hope they do similar one for morning glory

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:05
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Now there's a DVD I would gladly burn.



On a fire.

boroprogrammes Posted on 5/10 21:07
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Yeah - just got 1 of the blue T-Shirts in Virgin Megastore today with Oasis logo on the front saying Definitely Maybe on the back.
Blue it is.

stipey Posted on 5/10 21:07
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well you can slag of oasis for there recent efforts all you want but definitely maybe is ALWAYS in the top 5 albums whenever there is a magazine poll

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:11
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Definitely Maybe was good. I'll give you that. Now they're just a Beatles tribute band fronted by two of the most obnoxious people in the music world.

stipey Posted on 5/10 21:15
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they are let down by liam being a p_rick. disagree about Noel, i just think he is a really funny guy who plays up to his 'image'. i always make sure i get to see/listen to his interviews and think he is excellent on the DVD

boroprogrammes Posted on 5/10 21:15
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2 very talented obnoxious people.

They sound nowt like The Beatles. The Beatles sounded like The Beatles.

Thanks.

petrio Posted on 5/10 21:17
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Not got the DVD yet but I love Oasis. Just thought I'd share that with you.

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:18
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They sound nowt like the Beatles? If you say so.

boroprogrammes Posted on 5/10 21:19
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It's like saying Depeche Mode sound like New Order.

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:20
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They do. It's all silly bleepy electric stuff.

boroprogrammes Posted on 5/10 21:25
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I hardly think that Blue Monday was rubbish.

That was fcuking class.

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:33
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Love Will Tear Us Apart was better.

boroprogrammes Posted on 5/10 21:38
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Transmission was better though.

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:39
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It's all about opinions, but yours are wrong.

boroprogrammes Posted on 5/10 21:42
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You cannot always be right.

Still Supersonic was better than Love Will Tear Us Apart.

Bar fcuking none.

number_10 Posted on 5/10 21:42
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woah woah woah

Don't mention Oasis on here. That's a burning offense. It's not obscure enough for the music clique. You will be told they're just a tribute beatles band despite sounding absoloutely fcuking nowt like them really.

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:45
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I'm not in the music clique. I was just pissing about.

Otley_Boro Posted on 5/10 21:46
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number_10

Fischer Posted on 5/10 21:47
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I've always thought they sounded more like The Rutles.

littlejimmy Posted on 5/10 21:49
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If you want obscure, Fisch is your man. He'll recommend some Varicose Bingo and Habadashery Helmet if you're not careful.

WilmslowRed Posted on 5/10 21:50
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...as Noel found to his cost when Neil Innes heard 'Whatever' for the first time.....

scoea Posted on 6/10 8:33
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Whether littlejimmy was serious or not - I always find it lazy to label Oasis as a "Beatles tribute band". For me they sound/act more like the Rolling Stones.

Bottom line is that they have created two of the best albums to ever come out of England and because of that they got extremely popular and 'mainstream' which nowadays inevitably leads to that success dwindling away - it is always more cool to like obscure bands.

And despite those first two albums being the most successful and 'instant' their recent 2 albums to my mind have been excellent despite it being fashionable to criticise them.

I am into a lot of different types of music but the Beatles and Oasis will always be at the top.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 8:42
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it is very lazy to say that Oasis sound like The Beatles.

As they have ripped of (been influenced by ) so many bands.

Is Cigs and Alcohol a Beatles rip off or T-Rex?

Whatever is a rip off of a Rutles track.

Step Out is a rip off of a Stevie Wonder track

and so on....

P.S. Back In The USSR is a rip off of The Beach Boys.

Oasis No1, Oasis No1!

Shackerooni Posted on 6/10 8:44
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I don't think it's a case of getting shot down because they're not obscure enough or cool enough, it's more a case of slagging off Oasis because some people don't like them.

Which I don't.

Anyway, carry on.

scoea Posted on 6/10 8:47
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That's fair enough - they certainly aren't for everyone. It just seems that they wen from being ultra-popular (to people who had probably only ever heard Morning Glory) to being a band that it became 'cool' to slag off.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 8:49
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No, they became ultrapopular at a time when they did not deserve it, which was just after the release of Be Here Now.

The press and everyone built them and that album up so much that it was a case of an average album being over-hyped.

scoea Posted on 6/10 8:52
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I think they were pretty big before Be Here Now - in fact, they were huge well before that.

2 things went wrong though - you're right that the Be Here Now album was over-hyped but the biggest problem was with the band itself - they believed the publicity and became bloated (not literally you understand).

The album itself contained very good songs that were over-produced, over played and overdone.

Chutney Posted on 6/10 8:54
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I think it's very lazy to listen to Oasis.

Try a bit harder - there's a world of musical fun to be had if you're prepared to put the legwork in.

stipey Posted on 6/10 8:56
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they became ultra popular at the time of be here now!!??

bollox!!!!! They played to 250,000 at knebworth before that was released!!!!!

scoea Posted on 6/10 8:57
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Exactly - Be Here Now was after those gigs. It was Morning Glory that really saw them rocket.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 8:57
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scoea the problem with the overproducing of that album was soley down to the fact that it was the first album that Noel Gallagher produced on his own, the first to were co-produced and after that the got someone else in to do Standing On The Shoulders.

He fooked it up in that respect and realised that so did not produce an album on his own again.

scoea Posted on 6/10 8:58
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sort of Raz - Noel being on his own meant that there was no-one to say no to him. Result = an overproduced album with songs lasting 9 mins+

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 8:59
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stipey that popularity was deserved then and not over hyped. Upon the release of Be Here Now they became overhyped and ultrpopular.

scoea Posted on 6/10 9:01
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Sorry but the release of Be Here Now was actually the time when their poularity started to drop off.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 9:02
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exactly, nothing to do with an ego, just he was not qualified to produce the album.

stipey Posted on 6/10 9:04
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so your saying 250,000 in two nights is not over popular!!??

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 9:04
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scoea be here now was the fastest selling album of all time at the time.

It also reached number 2 in the US album charts, only kept off by the ever so popular at the time Puff Daddy.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 9:06
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i said it was a deserved popularity, it went stupid upon the release of Be Here Now, hence ultra popular.

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scoea Posted on 6/10 9:13
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No it didn't, it was silly before the release of Be Here Now, hence it was over-hyped.

And you never mentioned deserved popularity.

Anyway, back to the title - got the DVD and it is great.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 9:21
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can i just quote myself 'stipey that popularity was deserved '.

so I did say deserved.

The hype was deserved Morning Glory is/was a fantastic album.

StevieT Posted on 6/10 9:28
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Yep, and it's fantastic.

boroprogrammes Posted on 6/10 9:37
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I'm still undecided which is the better of the 2 albums between Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory.

scoea Posted on 6/10 9:38
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I know what you mean but for me Definitely Maybe wins every time. BTW - I think Heathen Chemistry is as good as Morning Glory.

boroprogrammes Posted on 6/10 9:41
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Cigarettes and Alcohol does sound like Get It On by T-Rex and Whatever sounds like I'm free to be an idiot by The Rutles.

sasboro Posted on 6/10 9:44
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scoea, with your good clean image i had you down as a more of an elton john,micheal jackson,robbie williams type.

scoea Posted on 6/10 9:44
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Yeah but T-Rex stole the Get It On riff from an old RandB American act - forget the name though.

scoea Posted on 6/10 9:46
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Don't know where you got this good clean image Sas.

Cannot stand any of the people you mentioned.

My top 5 would probably be:

1. Beatles
2. Oasis
3. Jam/Weller
4. Stone Roses
5. Sex Pistols

Fischer Posted on 6/10 9:46
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It's "How Sweet to be an Idiot" by Neil Innes. Not a Rutles song at all. So nyer.

(Although I have seen him play it live in an interlude during a Rutles gig)

boroprogrammes Posted on 6/10 9:49
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It's getting better Man sounds like The Pistols Pretty Vacant.

And now, now we don't care.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 10:06
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The Betales, number 1, they are the most overated band ever.

Their early albums were terrible, one-dimensional, and full of covers.

scoea Posted on 6/10 10:14
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So terrible that if they hadn't existed, neither would oasis.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 10:15
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Thank god for songs such as 'You Know My Name, Look Up My Number' 'She's So Heavy'

Cobain_94 Posted on 6/10 11:03
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"The Betales, number 1, they are the most overated band ever.

Their early albums were terrible, one-dimensional, and full of covers."

OK I agree to a point with the second sentance to a point but the first is an absolute load of bol_l_ocks.

How can a band be over rated after writing The White Album, Sgt Peppers and Revolver?

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scoea Posted on 6/10 11:14
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Add to that Rubber Soul, Abbey Road, Magical Mystery Tour, Let It Be, Help etc etc etc.

Get a grip - if they are overrated, then fcuk knows where that leaves just about every other band. Ever.

StevieT Posted on 6/10 11:18
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Everything changed after The Beatles, musically and culturally. Nobody has ever come close. Ever. That's fact not opinion.

scoea Posted on 6/10 11:19
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StevieT - don't go down that road again!!!

But you're absolutely right, they were both the catalyst and the vehicle by which world cutlure changed.

Piquet2 Posted on 6/10 11:20
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Sorry but this whole Beatles phenomenon, is a bit of 'King without clothes' syndrome.

scoea Posted on 6/10 11:23
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Please elaborate.

BoroMutt Posted on 6/10 11:23
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You're all forgetting Raz is a manc and therefore duty bound to detest anything/one from Liverpool!

Oasis two good albums and a lifetime of arsing around do not a great band make! When they can boast a back catalogue to compare with The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zepellin and many others who produced work over a period of many years and showed a progression and a willingness to expand there ouvre, THEN they would be a GREAT BAND!

Aint gonna happen though is it...

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 11:24
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what are you talking about She's so heavy is on Abbey Road and it is a shiite track!!

Polythene Pam!?! come on do you rate that track?

scoea Posted on 6/10 11:27
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Both good tracks. Granted not the Beatles best but certainly not crap. Polythene Pam is part of a cracking medley of songs.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 11:29
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Revolver includes the following shiiite tracks:

Here, There And Everywhere
Yellow Submarine
Doctor Robert
I Want To Tell You
Got To Get You Into My Life

it is a very very average album.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 11:32
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scoea sez a lot if you think She's SO Heavy is a good track.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 11:33
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P.S. I am from Norton - stockton-on-tees NOT manchester, get a grip.

StevieT Posted on 6/10 11:34
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Raz, Yes ... there are a few tracks you'd lift the needle on but, as mentioned earlier, the progression of musical styles The Beatles explored and pioneered in what was really a fairly short recording career is still unmatched by anyone.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 11:39
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not having a go at them for trying to do an uptempo track like Back In The USSR, not sure where the got the idea from (The Beach Boys maybe).

or having a go with a Citar (Ravi influenced (ripped off) maybe)

scoea Posted on 6/10 11:44
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Raz, if you're opinion is that the Beatles were average and overrated then fine. Can't argue with that. However, you must concede that their influence and genius is widely acknowledged and inparticular that Revolver is accepted as one of the truly great albums. What I am saying is that you are very much in the minority.

BoroMutt Posted on 6/10 11:45
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Raz if you have a back catalogue like the Beatles there are bound to be a few duff tracks. If we compare this to Oasis we have two good albums and followed by five(ish) duff albums highlighted by the odd decent track!

If The Beatles are not the greatest/ most influential band of all time (and most critics agree that they are) then who, in your opinion surpasses them?

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 11:45
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do you rate the tracks I have mentioned off Revolver then?

I just think they are a overhyped band when you acctually look at some of their material.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 11:48
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Oasis have not released 7 albums at all.

I think Masterplan is a great album too, or was that in your 2 albums?

StevieT Posted on 6/10 11:56
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Raz, the tracks you listed off Revolver are all superb. Have a look at it again and think how different to each other they all sound.

BoroMutt Posted on 6/10 11:59
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Heathen Chemistry
Familiar To Millions
Standing On The Shoulders Of Giants
The Masterplan
Be Here Now
(What's The Story) Morning Glory
Definitely Maybe

Looks like seven albums to me! Though admittedly FTM is a live album. Two good albums would be Def maybe and Morning Glory.

And no, those tracks you picked wouldn't be the first to hit my turntable either it's just that for inventiveness and influence the Beatles are in a league of their own.

They are not particularly my favourite artist of all time either, simply that I acknowledge their place in the history of popular music.

scoea Posted on 6/10 11:59
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Oasis are not in the same league as the Beatles and I say that as a big Oasis fan.

stipey Posted on 6/10 12:01
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they have released 7 if you include the live CD

definitely mybe
morning glory
be here now
masterplan
standing on shoulders of giants
familiar to millions
heathen chemistry

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 12:04
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FTM is not a studio album.

You cannot say I like Morning Glory and Def Maybe but not Familiar To Million as it includes most of the tracks off them albums

scoea Posted on 6/10 12:09
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I disagree with the majority. I think Oasis's back catologue is excellent with only a few bad tracks.

However, the beatles released so much (in less time than Oasis have had BTW) of such a high quality and diversity that they cannot be dismissed as average.

Have a listen to Tomorrow Never Knows on Revolver - early Prodigy?

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 12:11
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early produgy or one chord, and a couple of backward instruments?

BoroMutt Posted on 6/10 12:13
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I said "Five(ish)" without checking and then I said "admittedly FTM is a live album". Not bad from memory!

And the fact that FTM includes most of the tracks from the first two albums shows that even they admit that their best stuff was on those two albums, despite having produced three other albums of material!

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 12:18
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I thought it was released just after Standing on the Shoulders.

So only 4 albums, and they did have alot of tracks from other 2 albums as well.

It was after all a double cd.

scoea Posted on 6/10 12:22
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Raz is right about Oasis - 5 studio albums of which 3 are excellent, 1 is average and 1 is poor (but only because of poor production) and a B-Sides album that is as good as most bands' regular albums.

As for the Beatles though, Raz clearly does not have a clue.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 12:31
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I said that The Beatles are an overhyped bands with a lot of bad songs on so-called great albums.

The songs mentioned off Revolver are terrible - Doctor Robbin is embarrassingly bad and dated, it is an ugly song.

scoea Posted on 6/10 12:37
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Not heard Dr Robbin. Is that the follow up to Rocky?

Overhyped, bad songs and so-called great albums.

Are you for real?

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 12:58
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Doctor Robert then?

or have you not heard that?

scoea Posted on 6/10 13:01
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Raz - I want you to think about the albums that the Beatles made - Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper, the White Album, Abbey Road, Let It Be.

Which other band/artist can boast that level of quality. Even more impressive when you think that they were released within only a 5-7 year period!

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:02
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Have you heard their early albums?

scoea Posted on 6/10 13:03
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Heard them - I have everything they have ever done. Have you heard help, Hard Day's night, With the Beatles?

Quality.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:08
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ok forget it. The early stuff all sounds the same and is covered with cover version or elvis/buddy holly esque songs.

I have named a load of tracks on Revolver that are terrible tracks - your justification for them being great is that they are different from each other. Got To Get You Into My Life is totally unique compared to anyother track on that album but is still a shiiite song.

scoea Posted on 6/10 13:14
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Raz - you are entitled to your opinion but you must accept that you are very much in the minority and that therefore most people will disagree with you.

Revolver's tracks both collectively and individually are evidence of the genius of Lennon/McCartney.

And the fact that Revolver, Sgt pepper and others are ALWAYS in the best albums ever top 5 is proof of that.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:18
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"And the fact that Revolver, Sgt pepper and others are ALWAYS in the best albums ever top 5 is proof of that." - That proves nothing.

Lennons best work was outside the beatles, e.g. Imagine

is Doctor Robert a good track?? And if it is, why is it?

scoea Posted on 6/10 13:21
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What a daft question. Impossible to provide a critique as to why I think a particular song is good. It just is.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:25
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ok.

P.S. My Best Beatles track is Hey BullDog (and it is on a bad album)

scoea Posted on 6/10 13:30
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I like Hey Bulldog but it remains one of the weakest of the Beatles tracks.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:35
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Ha Ha Ha Ha brilliant.

You think these are great:

Here, There And Everywhere
Yellow Submarine
Doctor Robert
I Want To Tell You
Got To Get You Into My Life

But Hey Bulldog is weak.

Nice one.

janbroon Posted on 6/10 13:45
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Oasis should be renamed the plagiarists.

Example; Streets of London, yes that old Ralph McTell number, is virtually identicle in chord structure to Look Back in Anger.
Wonder where Noel got that classic from?

Many other examples if I could be bothered, and if you dont believe me go check.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:48
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jan same goes for many other bands including the beatles.

Back in the USSR = The Beach Boys Rip Off

scoea Posted on 6/10 13:50
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Just about every chord structure is derivative. Usually in this genre of music it comes from black blues artists from the US.

So very harsh that.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:52
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Paul McCartney said that the beatle saw what the beaches boys were doing an thought it was really good so used the sound for Back In The USSR.

Watch your anthologys mate.

scoea Posted on 6/10 13:53
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Wasn't referring to you Raz.

But as you seem to have a bee in your bonnet - carry on.

sasboro Posted on 6/10 13:55
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well dont bg/rich10 on getting 100

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RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 13:55
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you did not pin your post to anyone, sorry for getting in wrong.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 14:35
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better bands than the beatles:

The Rolling Stones
The David Bowie Band

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scoea Posted on 6/10 14:38
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Now I know you're on a wind up!!!

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 14:41
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why am I?

Rolling Stones have been churning out great music for decades as has David Bowie.

scoea Posted on 6/10 14:42
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You obviously haven't heard a lot of the recent Stones stuff then!

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 14:46
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your right I have not got the last album the last album I got by them was mid 90s.

So what they have still managed to churn out great music for decades unlike the beatles.

Little Wonder was a great track - did the beatles ever do a drum n bass track? errr No.

Bowie is a star! And his new stuff has been great.

StevieT Posted on 6/10 14:52
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Raz, I don't think anyone's knocking Bowie or the Stones but neither of them would have started writing their own songs without the influence of Lennon/McCartney.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 15:02
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'--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I know you're on a wind up!!!'

that sounded like someone knocking them.

Is Ronni Size better than bowie because that was who got him into drum and bass and writing for drum and bass tracks?

Why does their being influenced by someone else mean they are still not the overall better band?

The stones early singles were beatles covers, but the beatles also covered bands around the same time, does that mean that from you fuzzy logic that the bands that The beatles covered are better bands than them because the beatles were influenced by them??

Craig_boro Posted on 6/10 15:18
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Back onto the DVD...

My copy finaly arrived yesterday from CDwow after ordering it before it was released. I shouldn't complain really as it was only £9.99.

Quality DVD and loved every minute of watching it so far. Anyone tell me why the Video for Live Forever is different on the DVD than the one you usualy see on VH1 and other channels?

scoea Posted on 6/10 15:21
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Different in what way?

It's the one where McCarroll gets buried isn't it?

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 15:23
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craig is it the american version - liam sat at desk whacking light to pictures of famous people?

Craig_boro Posted on 6/10 15:24
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Nope. That's the version I like that isn't on my DVD From first glance!

The one that's on my DVD is where he (Liam) is behind a desk in a sort of country manner. Maybe it's the US Version?

Glad to see Sad Song on the track list aswell.

posted After Raz replied and before I read it!

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RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 15:28
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yeah thats the american version.

I think it is a better video.

Craig_boro Posted on 6/10 15:31
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I don't think it's better, I much prefer the UK version. Sticking someone on a chair high up on a wall then burying the drummer that you're just about to sack! quality

I didn't know it was Boneheads (If I remember rightly off the DVD) house that they used for the Album cover.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 15:32
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not got dvd yet,

yeah it was boneheads old flat in manchester. The bits n bobs where in there aswell.

It was quality cos he whacks light and it goes to kurt cobain, then to sid vicious, then to hendrix - all the great dead people that are going to Live Forever!

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Craig_boro Posted on 6/10 15:34
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The bit's and bobs (Globe etc?) wern't from Boneheads place they borrowed them from a co-producers (I think!) house and used them.

Intresting FACT for today...

The glass with Red liquid in it is not Red Wine but a carton of Ribena.

FACT 2, I'm turning into a stato...

Fischer Posted on 6/10 15:36
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"The David Bowie Band"! Fantastic.

Come on then Raz, is Heathen Chemistry a better album than Revolver?

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 15:38
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I am not so sure they did get the bits n bobs from Owen Coyles house I think they got them from Boneheads, esp. the globe.

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 15:41
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"The stones early singles were beatles covers,"

Eh?

scoea Posted on 6/10 15:41
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The UK Live Forever video is on the DVD - there are lots of secret menus and extras to find!

And the globe was from Coyle's house.

Exactyl right Fischer - I am a huge Oasis fan and love Heathen Chemistry. (I know you're not an Oasis fan BTW) However, I would not be so silly to compare HC with ANY of the Beatles' albums never mind Revolver!

RIVERTEES Posted on 6/10 15:42
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Although popularity is no indication of ability (vis-ŗ-vis Robbie William) , I cannot understand why so many folks find it necessary to dislike quality music. I personally would never buy an Elton John album, but there again if someone paid for me to go to one of his concerts I would probably enjoy it out of respect on ability as a quality musician. Too many people, especially on here confuse music with the need to be seen to be in, as you get older you donít give a shiit. Some people are attracted to the esoteric, then once they become less so loose interest as they suddenly become uncool. Itís all a bit studentish to me!

Craig_boro Posted on 6/10 15:44
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Raz, All the bits and Bobs where from Coyles house. Even the Man City picture as it is in the hall of legends or something daft like that.

Tis on the DVD.

scoea Posted on 6/10 15:45
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Good post - I can appreciate that Elton is a very good musician and songwriter but do not like his music.

I think you describe what actually happened to Oasis actually. They have always had a core of fans that were supplemented by the 'floaters' and once Oasis became uncool they dropped them.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 15:57
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fair doos craig.

Fischer Posted on 6/10 16:05
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Anyway, my brand new purchase - Emma Bunton's album - is far superior to anything Oasis or The David Bowie Band have ever done. And the inner sleeve has a picture of her in a jumper (Shack's nose twitches...)

RIVERTEES Posted on 6/10 16:05
re: Anyone got the Oasis DVD

How much does it cost?

scoea Posted on 6/10 16:07
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How big is the jumper and what colour is it?

Fischer Posted on 6/10 16:07
re: Anyone got the Oasis DVD

It was £4.99 in HMV sale. The jumper is quite tight-fitting with a polo neck, but it is a nice fawn colour.

scoea Posted on 6/10 16:08
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How does that fit with Shack's 'preferences'?

Fischer Posted on 6/10 16:10
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Not sure. I think she'd have to bring him breakfast in bed looking slightly sleepy on a houseboat for him to really make a judgement.

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 16:15
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Big fan of Emma Buntons myself. She was always too knowing and talented for the Spice Girls. She was tricked into joining the band in the first place. They told her they were a serious blues band paying homage to Elmore James and JB Lenoir.

Fischer Posted on 6/10 16:17
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Dead right, Gillandi, the new album shows influences of both. And "Free Me" has a lyric clearly influenced by William S Burroughs cut-up school of abstract creativity.

Shackerooni Posted on 6/10 16:18
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Tight fitting? I'm not sure about that. I'd prefer it if it were one of my jumpers that she'd slipped into, especially if she'd just put it on the keep the cold out while we went to skim stones at the beach. We'd then retire to a seaside bistro, where we'd order cappuccinos and she'd get froth all over her face.

(Not for the first time that day, I can tell you)

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 16:20
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Interesting Fisch, i'll have to check it.


I used to jam with Emma at St Martins College of Art during our dinner breaks in the 70's. She was no more than a baby then but all us cats thought we were looking at the new Chuck Berry.

Fischer Posted on 6/10 16:20
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Shack, I hope you're referring to a sea fret. God knows I'd fret if I had to get into one of your smelly jumpers.

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Shackerooni Posted on 6/10 16:23
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Well it's good bloody job I've not asked you.

Bunts (as I know her) would gladly slip into one, especially as I've started using fabric conditioner. You can really notice the difference.

Her tits look massive.

Fischer Posted on 6/10 16:27
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All cobblers obviously, but it least it's stopped them talking about f***ing Oasis again. Don't we have this thread every week?

dooderooni Posted on 6/10 16:27
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Nice picture, much better than the fake nude ones doing the rounds.

Link: Bunts

RIVERTEES Posted on 6/10 16:28
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My sides are aching!

StevieT Posted on 6/10 16:29
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Ooph! She's certainly better looking than Noel or Liam.


Anyway, back to the Beatles ...

Shackerooni Posted on 6/10 16:30
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Good shout Fischer. Bunton's too good for Oasis. She's too good for me really, at least that's what her parents keep saying.

In my dreams.

In conclusion, some people like Oasis, some people don't, some people jumped on and off the bandwagon. Also, Bunton looks cracking in a sweater and even better in the back of a rowing boat while I row her across a loch.

StevieT Posted on 6/10 16:39
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Now this IS a lady ...

Link: SMG

scoea Posted on 6/10 17:01
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From Oasis DVDs to the merits of the Beatles back catalogue to Bunton's blues influences then to how her tits look in a jumper (tight fitting or slip on) and then, finally, just to pictures of rather attractive celebrities.

And people wonder why this board is so fcuking popular!!!!

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StevieT Posted on 6/10 17:05
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You're right like.

Link: One more

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 17:11
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And people wonder why this board is so fcuking popular!!!!

WELL IT IS ALL THANKS TO ME!

scoea Posted on 6/10 17:12
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Savage on Souness MKII

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 17:13
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And not one mention of The Kinks or Gilbert O'Sullivan. Both of whom wrote all these artists off the stage.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 6/10 17:14
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the kinks = another band the beatles copied off

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 17:31
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The letter K wouldn't be where it is today without them too.

Craig_boro Posted on 6/10 17:33
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So this ISNT the Oasis appreciation society then?

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 17:43
re: Anyone got the Oasis DVD

No Craig - It's the lets slaughter the Beatles society. Which i'd be all for normally, if the guy instigating it wasn't dancing on Johnny Cash's grave the day after he died and singing "hallelujah". Out of tune.



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boroprogrammes Posted on 6/10 18:55
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Oh my god I canne belive there is over 150 posts. Just logged on.

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 19:10
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It's bigger than Jesus.

mrweller Posted on 6/10 20:46
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I canít believe that some people on here do not rate either David Bowie or The Rolling Stones.

To say that they are not one of the most influential bands of the last 30 - 40 years is just plain stupid.

Some people on here argue for arguments sake.

Gillandi Posted on 6/10 20:49
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No they don't mrweller.

mrweller Posted on 6/10 20:57
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someone above in this post rated both as their most influential bands.

and the reply they got was:

'Your having a laugh arent you'

That clearly shows that at least this person does not rate these two bands.

scoea Posted on 7/10 8:33
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Just to clarfiy for mrweller - I do rate Bowie and the Stones but was laughing at the notion that they were better or more influential than the Beatles, which in my opinion is wrong.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 7/10 9:10
re: Anyone got the Oasis DVD

You cannot rate them that much if you do not think that they are just as influential or even more influential than the beatles.

They as a band and artist have managed to stand the test of time, with quality and very different music over the decades.

A band like Oasis you can tell straight away is influenced more by The Stones than The Beatles.

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scoea Posted on 7/10 9:11
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And so it begins.

Again.

So if it begins again, it isn't actually beginning is it?

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 7/10 9:14
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you have to read the post and join in for it to start over again.

scoea Posted on 7/10 9:17
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Can't be bothered. I'm right and I know it. That'll do for me.

Shackerooni Posted on 7/10 9:17
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I'd give up scoea. That post by Razmond is so wrong, it's enough to make you go cross-eyed.

Just by rating a band does not mean you must immediately think they are the most influential band of all time. My favourite band is Weezer, but they're hardly breaking records and changing the world.

And why would Liam call his kid Lennon and not Jagger if he didn't think the Beatles were a bigger influence on him?

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 7/10 9:23
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seems odd that someone would find it laughable that two bands that had been successfull for decades now could not be deemed infulential or the most influential.

Listen to the sound, look at how they look, look at their manner - it oozes more The Stones than it does Oasis

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 7/10 9:28
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My fav bands are probably Oasis, The Doors, The Verve but I would hardly call these bands ground breaking.

I would say that The Stones, Bowie, and The Beatles are. Yet certain people find that comical.

scoea Posted on 7/10 9:29
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You're right, of course Shack.

Raz - if you are trying to convince me that Liam has not tried to look and sound like Lennon, you're fighting a losing battle.

RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 7/10 9:37
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he had his look like lennon phase, gegs n all.

But he doesnt anymore.

As for sounding, yes he does at times, but he also sounds like jagger, probably more infact.

Have you heard Street Fighting Man by Oasis? They sounds just like the stones.

Have you heard I Am The Walrus by Oasis? they sound just like the stones.

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RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 7/10 9:38
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P.S. I could not imagine Liam Gallagher as a hippy, doing some sort of peace stance.

Windaz Posted on 7/10 10:29
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I think you will find every band uses an influence to create music.

Oasis used well known ones, like Beatles T-rex Slade etc etc, but the beatles used bands too... I mean do you ever talk of the beatles copying Delbert McClinton, Isley Brothers, Bobby Parker?? Which most of the beatles songs copy. Fact is Oasis rescured UK music.

scoea Posted on 7/10 10:33
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The biggest difference is what the Beatles did after their initial albums. Thos early albums were just variations on a theme that had started in the 50's but by the time Revolver came out, they were developing music and doing things on record that NOBODY had done before.

They were pioneers and contributed greatly to both musical and cultural change without which, bands like Oasis would not exist.

Fischer Posted on 7/10 10:34
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"do you ever talk of the beatles copying Delbert McClinton, Isley Brothers, Bobby Parker?? Which most of the beatles songs copy"

MOST of them? Shurely shome mishtake? The very early material possibly, but there's not a lot of Delbert McClinton influence in I Am The Walrus and Revolution No. 9. Now if you'd said Lewis Carroll and Karlheinz Stockhausen...

SympathyForTheBoro Posted on 7/10 11:56
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How come no-ones mentioned radiohead yet??

Cobain_94 Posted on 7/10 12:05
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"The Stones, Bowie, and The Beatles are. Yet certain people find that comical"

No they are very influential bands/artists.

Everyone has influences but there's influence and then there's blatant ripping off. I love Definatley maybe and Morning Glory but they weren't anything new at all, just updatd versions of old formats.

Truely influential bands will take their influences and then do something with them that the band they were influenced by didn't do instead of just stealing riffs.

Just read the above post. Radiohead are a good example.

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RAZMOND_HWDR Posted on 7/10 12:37
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as albums Def Maybe and Morning Glory were a breath of fresh air at the time they were released. But I agree with you that they are nothing new.

Also glad that someone else does not find the idea of bowie and The Stones being influential laughable.

Also if you compared Oasis's first 2 albums to The Beatles first 2 albums, Oasis's albums are the better albums.