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tees_tug Posted on 28/9 12:13
Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

quote; " I hear Bernie on the Legends show and I love him to bits. But Bernie played only two seasons in the top division and we were relegatted on both occasions".

Also says he is backing Mac in tonights Gazette.

Gillandi Posted on 28/9 12:15
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.



I'd call that a major dig. We all know how sensitive to criticism he is. He'd have cut Gibbo off if he'd phoned in with that observation.

We have a choice now. Who do we back?

Bernie or Gibbo?

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Woodymfc Posted on 28/9 12:16
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Think about it

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 12:17
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That's a bit harsh. To be fair Gibson has lost a bit of respect from me now. Bernie might not always be right but you can't argue his passion. What I would do for Bernie's passion in Yakubu, Rockemback, Parlour, Viduka, Jimmy, Ehiogu, Xavier, Rickets, Greening, Wilson, Maccarone, Nemeth, Job!

Bernie cost fook all and gave his all! One hell of a guy and by the way I don't agree with him all of the time.

Mr Gibson - look to Mr McClaren before you throw stones! People in glass houses!

Big_Shot Posted on 28/9 12:18
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

what does he know, as an ex pro Bernie etc, etc, etc



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tees_tug Posted on 28/9 12:19
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I might email that quote into the Legends tonight.


Also said; " I can't believe the doom and gloom which is being expressed in some quarters."

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 12:19
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

That's a very polite dig in Bernie's direction , but I doubt it'll change his approach, and I for one generally agree with Bernie on most things..

Gillandi Posted on 28/9 12:20
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Park Bench - Did you ever see Bernie play? Good player, good at certain things but passion is not a word I would have associated with him. Didn't make a tackle all the time he was here for instance and threw his dummy out at the merest suggestion of him playing out of his favoured position (which was up front and mostly off-side.)

Woodymfc Posted on 28/9 12:21
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Any director would be secretly fuming at the returns he is getting and losing faith with his fellow public. I would be sacked if i performed like smac does

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 12:22
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

" I can't believe the doom and gloom which is being expressed in some quarters."

Well if he can't believe it he'd better have a little look around the stadium he built, as more and more seats become visible to him from his view in the directors box!!

Kilburn Posted on 28/9 12:23
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Hmm, the Bernie I remember was a fine player, but no harder working than most of those other players that you mention.

When he played he used to wind everyone up on a regular basis by being too idle to get back from offside positions.

He had more class than most of the players he played with or against back then, and a much-underrated left foot, but he was never known for being a tireless battler.

mintonboro Posted on 28/9 12:24
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Slaven is a Celtic fan and always will be. He's in it here for the money and tries to be controversial to maintain his profile. He wouldn't earn a penny anywhere else. Plus, he wasn't that good. He goes to the Celtic Supporters Clubs in Glasgow, and yes, he knows all the songs!!!!

skiprat Posted on 28/9 12:26
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Why is Rochemback being lumped in with those players mentioned?

Woodymfc Posted on 28/9 12:26
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I couldnt knock anyone who has done really well playing or representing the club. Bernie and co did us a great service

beeline Posted on 28/9 12:26
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"I love him to bits" - code for "he gets right on my tits". Cheerleader of the mob.

Reckre Posted on 28/9 12:26
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Why do we have to make a choice between Gibson and Slaven? Slaven bleeds Boro, but so does Gibson.

DybuksChampion Posted on 28/9 12:27
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Pally Park what are you on?

'That's a bit harsh. To be fair Gibson has lost a bit of respect from me now. Bernie might not always be right but you can't argue his passion.'

What about Gibbo's passion. He is the club. Bernie isn't. Has Bernie put his cash where his mouth is? No.

So Bernie losses no respect from you for having constant digs. But the bloke who single handedly provided you the club you purport to support does??

As has been said above Bernie definitely lacked a bit of on field passion.

Piquet2 Posted on 28/9 12:27
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bernie knows all about getting booed, he was on the end of it plenty of times.

bandito Posted on 28/9 12:28
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bernies passion was hitting the net and feeding Boro with goals, he didnt need to tackle or show passion cos he was already doing his job correctly.

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 12:28
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

How about this one.

A response from Bernie. Yes Mr Gibson and you were the chairman when the team was relegated. Maybe if you had acted and sacked the manager when he didn't have a clue what he was doing and if you have employed a chief exec who knew the rules...............

Sorry guys. I love Gibson but I am with Bernie on this one all the way. I am not blind and neither is anyone else out there. Doom and Gloom. You better believe it.

Oh - and yes I watched Bernie play. Yes he was offside, yes he didn't tackle, but I tell you what even when he was playing poorly he never hid and never wanted to come off the pitch!

The_Commisar Posted on 28/9 12:28
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

About time someone at the club told Slaven where to get off.
I hope a few words were said in his presence.


As for

Any director would be secretly fuming at the returns he is getting and losing faith with his fellow public. I would be sacked if i performed like smac does

So if you got your company into the top 10% of the countries companies he'd be cheesed off would he ?

and

I couldnt knock anyone who has done really well playing or representing the club. Bernie and co did us a great service

Obviously this doesn't apply to managers !

tees_tug Posted on 28/9 12:30
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Another interesting quote;

"It used to be a game of draughts, now it's a game of chess".

"But we have come a long way and we have worked out how to play the game."



"The outlook is bright".

DybuksChampion Posted on 28/9 12:31
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Fu.k me I've heard it all now.

P! ss off and support Bernie's team then.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 28/9 12:32
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

It's so easy to say the things Bernie and McClaren's critics on the legends show say, when you haven't been involved with the game for 10 years, or haven't run, managed or coached a football club.

I will always back Gibbo. We have to trust his judgement. We've only played seven games, although 2 performances have been downright awful, and 2 have been mediocre. The next 3 or 4 league games though will have a massive bearing on the season. If we struggle in those, we will I fear, have too much ground to make up. Even if we do have a poor season, that doesn't mean we have to get rid of McClaren though.

Cheeky_Chops Posted on 28/9 12:34
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Exactly what Gilland and kilburn said. Bernie was brilliant for us but he was hardly the type to break sweat

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 12:34
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Commisar, I personally think Bernie is big enough to give praise when it's due, and brave enough to criticise when things are wrong. Nothing wrong with that approach in my view!!

What are you after?, a praise only commentator!

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 12:35
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

It feeling like a game of cards at the minute and I think our deck if about to fall over.

Shouldn't the chairman be saying something like -

'I understand and share the fans frustration - as a clubs we have invested heavily and backed the manager to the hilt. He now says he has his best squad ever and it is up to the management team and the squad to prove it - we must simply back them'

I would be pleased with that.

joseph99 Posted on 28/9 12:36
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bernie is only speaking what I hear all over the pubs before and after games.

Gibbo is protecting his manager; just showing loyalty as usual.

XXLshirts_fit_all Posted on 28/9 12:37
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I agree with gibbos comments, and also thos of any manager or chairman when answering to critisism from EX-pros who havent gone in to management. Didnt linekar and hansen get rubbished a while back from Sir alex??? they didnt have the bottle to turn their MASSIVE footballing knowledge and technical understanding of the game into league winning team management.
If they put their head above the parrapet and critisise a team, expect to get it shot at from time to time. doesnt mean what he said aint right tho!

grantus Posted on 28/9 12:37
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Knocking Bernie's playing career?? What the hell is going on with Boro? Is the PR man on long term sick?

Every week something controvertial comes out of the Riverside, this week its Gibson's turn.

In the 10 years before Ravenelli, Bernie was head and shoulders ahead of any striker we had. To imply that his performances contributed to our relegation is disgraceful. the man always scored goals, he would have scored them anywhere. Without him I doubt that we'd have even been in the top flight.

Very disappointed. Look inside to sort things out Steve, bernie is not the problem, the supporters are not the problem, people in your employment are.

Gillandi Posted on 28/9 12:37
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"Cheerleader of the mob."

In a nut-shell Mr Beeline.


When Lennie Lawrence sold Bernie to Port vale he said in an interview with FMTTM that the club couldn't go forward until the "Bernie Mafia was broken up in the dressing room." Passion yes, for himself and his cause of having the team built around him so he could tap in the loose ends.

Unfortunatly the Bernie Mafia returned to the club when he was given the opportunity to comment on us on the radio.

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ThePrisoner Posted on 28/9 12:38
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Sounds like Bernie won't be going on his freebie to Singapore next year!

zzzzz Posted on 28/9 12:38
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"Slaven bleeds Boro, but so does Gibson."

Reckre, I respect the fact that you are entitled to an opinion.....but what a load of bollox.

Unless of course you can come up with concrete evidence of the allegation.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 28/9 12:39
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bernie and the other two are deliberately controversial and usually encourage the callers who ring up to criticise their clubs. Although they usually know where to draw the line, without that element of controversy, they don't have a show.

The_Commisar Posted on 28/9 12:40
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I would like a balanced commentator, not someone who slags the club and the manager and the players off.
FACT - he kept his gob shut under the worst of Robson and now goes out of his way to priase that team.
FACT - he hardly has a good word to say about SMAC

WHY ?
Whats his agenda ???

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 12:40
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Grantus, applause, applause. Finally someone with some common sense.

borodavey Posted on 28/9 12:41
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I dont want McClaren here, i think Gibbo is a leegend and without him we would be a Championship team at best no doubt. However Bernie is a Boro fan. Yes Celtic where the team he supported as a kid but i think he has more loyalty to boro otherwise when he retired he would have went back to scotland. Bernie has never came out and said get rid of McClaren anyway, thats the fans. The north stand where i sit is full of fans who have been booing, many from the old holgate so most are the true boro fans who want him out./

red_rebel Posted on 28/9 12:43
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I think it is interesting that Gibbo has gone to the Gazette and ineffect given the "vote of confidence." He usually only pops up in the press for the rousing season ticket renewal speech.

And it comes hot on the heels of Keith Lamb's 'never had it so good' bit in teh Gazette on Saturday and his bit being drowned out by all the angry letters last week.

Does that mean the club are rattled. They never usually comment on speculation but now they are not only dignifying it witha response but getting down and dirty.

sasboro Posted on 28/9 12:43
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

What bernie got to do with boro playing sh it? Is he viduka or something? More PR stuff to deflect things away from the real problems. Is he going have a go at jeff winter and terry cochrance next? they say similar things to what bernie says

BTW, slaven scoring about 15 league goals in a relegated season is pretty good going. How many boro strikers have scored more than that in the top flight in the league?

how about someone ask gibson is smac going to sign this 4 year contract or not!

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BossHogg Posted on 28/9 12:44
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"Passion yes, for himself and his cause of having the team built around him so he could tap in the loose ends."

What a crock, FFS, I wish someone was 'tapping' away for us now!!

bandito Posted on 28/9 12:44
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

that should shut em up sas!

ScarboroSmoggy Posted on 28/9 12:45
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Mac's my man Sep 28 2005




Eric Paylor, Evening Gazette


Steve Gibson today threw his full weight behind under-fire manager Steve McClaren.

The Boro chairman expressed his unshaken belief in McClaren's ability to bring further success to the Boro.

Gibson revealed that he expected the manager to sign his new contract extension in the near future and is backing McClaren to lead the club forward from the disappointing start to the campaign.

Gibson told the Evening Gazette: "I can't believe the doom and gloom which is being expressed in some quarters.

"Of course we would have preferred to have had more than eight points from the first seven games.

"Of course we were very disappointed not to have beaten Sunderland on Sunday.


"If we had won, we would have gone sixth in the Premiership.


"But we know that we have the quality within the squad to win games.


"We also have everything in place to take the club forward, and that involves everything from the Academy to Steve McClaren and his staff."


The frustrations felt by the embarrassing home defeat by previous bottom club Sunderland have led to many fans questioning some of McClaren's decisions.


But Gibson has no doubts that his manager is one of the best in the land.


He said: "I think that some people looked for a scapegoat because we lost to Sunderland, and that's one of the diseases in football.


"But I understand the fans' frustrations. Everybody at the club felt the same way after that defeat.


"But you don't just wipe out all the hard work that has been put in at this club over the past five years because of one bad result.


"We know we are doing things the right way and in Steve McClaren we have a manager who can deliver, as he has done in the past.


"There are good reasons why Steve was taken on by Sir Alex Ferguson, by Jim Smith and as Sven Goran


Eriksson's No 2 with England.


"It's because of his eye for detail, his experience at the highest level and also his ability as a manager.


"These are the reasons why he is manager of Middlesbrough.


"He's won the club's first major trophy and taken us to our highest ever place in the Premier League."


Gibson revealed that McClaren's contract extension talks were ongoing, but that everything was virtually finalised.


The chairman said: "I have shaken hands with Steve over the details of his contract.


"We are still dotting the 'i's and crossing the 't's but there is nothing sinister about the fact that it is not yet completed.


"Steve will sign the new contract as soon as everything is ready."


Gibson admitted that it was taking a little time for the club's £12m summer investment in players to bear fruit, but that everything would eventually fall into place.


He said: "I know that spending money on new players does not give you a guarantee of success.


"But we believe that we have spent the money wisely and that time will prove us right.


"We have brought in proven foreign players and all we have to do now is to give them time to settle.


"Pogatetz is a 100 per center, Yakubu has scored a couple of goals already and will get better and Rochemback is a fantastic player who will do well for us when we get him settled down and doing what he does best.


"We are happy with the way things are going, but we know that it has to come hand in hand with results.


"It's such a competitive league that you can't possibly expect to win every game, especially as there are clubs who have much greater resources than us.


"But our ambitions have never faltered and we firmly believe this can be another season of progression for the club."


* BORO and Everton will play their Carling Cup third round tie at Goodison Park on Wednesday, October 26 (KO 8pm).


* BORO'S small contingent of fans who are making their way to Greece for the UEFA Cup tie are being provided with special buses to take them from the town's central square to the Xanthi Arena.


Only around 100 tickets have been sold to Boro fans, after two fans' flights to Greece were cancelled. * BORO have printed 500 more copies the matchday programme, Redsquare, for the home tie with Xanthi - after an initial print run sold out 20 minutes before kick-off.

bandito Posted on 28/9 12:46
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Gill: Did bernie short change you once in your taxi?

Your "hidden agenda" is disturbing

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 12:46
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Commisar, his agenda????, WTF

I can only suggest that his 'agenda' must be the same as the 7000 who've stopped going and the thousands that still remain, but aren't impressed by what they are seeing!!

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 12:47
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I remember once getting a thump of this big ginger guy in the North Stand (remember the big guy from the holgate who looked like Jim McDonald from Corrie) becuase in our Prem season under Robson I said Paul Wilkinson should not be on the bench. Whoooshhh came his right hand. Black eye - thanks!

Later that season Wilkinson played away against Chelsa, we got beat 5-0 (may have been 5-1, John Spencer scored a hat trick anway) the next home the big ran towards me, I though Jesus I'm a dead man. But noooooooo - he put his arm around me said sorry and bough me a pint. Said that he loved Wilko but the club had moved on and he was no longer up to it. For Wilko read McClaren and I think the same split in our fans is there. Come the end of the season I think I will be proved right again.

Anyone ever seen that Jim McDonald guy?

Reckre Posted on 28/9 12:49
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It amazes me how so many people appear to blindy support McClaren regardless.

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 12:52
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Mr Gibson. One bad result. One bad result??

If we had won on Saturday we would have been sixth in the premiership.

hmmmm. If we had beaten Leicster and Chelsea twice we would have four cups in the cabinet too!

Roll on 2006!

Leedsclive Posted on 28/9 12:53
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bernie should be grateful he has a job in the media when he is thick as two dinner plates glued together (I know someone who went to school with him and she said he could barely read or write). He was a great goalscorer (but in a different era in many ways) but lazy both in tackling and getting back from being offside. Plus, he hasn't invested many millions in the Boro like Steve Gibson, without whom we wouldn't have a club.
He may be saying what you hear in the pubs but wouldn't you want a professional analyst to come up with a bit better than that?
As for devotion to a club, he actually went on strike when at Albion Rovers to force a sale for a paltry amount so I doubt if he knows what loyalty is.
A great servant in the past, but knocking in twenty goals in the 80s doesn't qualify him to whip up dissent any more. Especially as his insights on football are nil. Anyone can come on and say "there was no passion" I could train a budgie to say that given enough time.
About time he was asked to find some other radio station to work for.

ThePrisoner Posted on 28/9 12:54
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

And Mr Nichols has a pop at bernie as well.

"We are not off to play a midweek Anglo-Italian tie at Grimsby as we might have been in Bernie's day"

Link: Ooooo get her!

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 12:54
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"But you don't just wipe out all the hard work that has been put in at this club over the past five years because of one bad result."

ONE BAD RESULT, only a few weeks ago we got dicked by Charlton!!

Perhaps Sir Gibbo should have a look at the other 'bad results' in 2005, McClaren's league record this year is very, very poor..

He would have kept Robson if the fans hadn't vented their collective feelings at the last game of his last season!!

IMO he's far too loyal for his own good!!

--- Post edited by BossHogg on 28/9 12:58 ---

sasboro Posted on 28/9 12:54
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

what we need to remember is in robsons last season gibson would have kept robson at the helm, unfortunatley it took booing by the fans to make him realise things had to change. Not saying it has to happen with smac, but gibson has to sit back and wait and see before letting him sign a 4 year deal. what happens if things dont improve and he has a 4 year deal. it will cost about 4m to pay him off. And wil the crowds continue to fall?He does occassionally get it wrong.

dont fall for using a bernie as a distraction. what next banning slaven/century from the riverside..?


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grantus Posted on 28/9 12:57
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Where did the "quote" having a dig at bernie come from then? Well? You wouldn't of made it up, would you? Well tees_tug, would you?

But about what he did say, nothing to get upset about, its a fair enough point of view, a reassuring one from the Chairman. The right one, almost.

He said: "I think that some people looked for a scapegoat because we lost to Sunderland, and that's one of the diseases in football."

Hmmm, I dont see how blaming the man responsible for all team affairs is looking for a scapegoat. Isn't the manager responsible for how his team plays? Its not just one game either, is it Steve? Wasn't it only 3 weeks ago that the team had put in their worst ever performance under mcClaren against Charlton? Thats twice in three games.

Maybe this is the first time Gibson has heard and realised what is going on with large sections of the support.

ScarboroSmoggy Posted on 28/9 12:57
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

A crowd teaser Sep 28 2005




Eric Paylor, Evening Gazette


Steve Gibson admitted today that Boro have to earn the right to put bums on seats at the Riverside Stadium.

The Boro chairman believes that the club's admission prices must remain competitive, while conceding that Premiership football is expensive to watch.

However Gibson believes the fans will respond to winning football.

He said: "Last year we had average gates of over 32,000 and we were very happy with that.

"Over the past few weeks attendances have dropped from this peak and our challenge is to bring them back to the club.

"We know that football has become an expensive game to watch, and also that fans have the choice whether to come or not.


"I have no problem with the gates.


"I am certainly not going to be critical of fans who exercise their right.


"What we do know is that there is a huge amount of interest in the club within the town.


"People are rightly proud of their club and it's very important to them that we do well.


"If we want them back we have to win and entertain and earn that right."


It was the relatively low crowd of 14,000 for the UEFA Cup tie against Xanthi which created the furore over attendances.


However Gibson said: "You will always be disappointed if you get low crowds for European games.


"But I understand the reasons why the gate was low.


"A lot of our games are shown on TV.


"It gives fans an opportunity to watch the game and save a bit of cash.


"People say 'Why don't you reduce the prices?' but that's too simplistic.


"We are already competitive and our prices are among the lowest in the Premiership.


"At present our income from ticket sales is around £9½m a year, which is considerably less than we have just committed ourselves to paying in the transfer market.


"And 17½ per cent of the money we receive from ticket sales goes to the taxman in VAT.


"That's why we have to find the right balance between making the club affordable and at the same time ensuring the club remains competitive.


"We don't have shareholders and we don't have a board.


"We run the club on efficient lines and we intend to continue to do that.


"When you consider our spending power, the quality in our squad, and our Academy, I think we more than punch our weight in the Premiership.


"Yet, when you look at the resources we have got, we have a turnover only half of that as a club like Newcastle.


"Even West Ham's resources are much greater than ours.


"We have to pull rabbits out of the hat but we manage to do it every season."


Gibson added: "The one thing I can stress is that doom and gloom isn't being felt within the club.


"The roof is not about to fall in.


"Steve McClaren and his staff are more than capable of getting results and that's what we need if we are to bring the fans into the club.


"There is always going to be a problem with entertainment value, because it's all a matter of opinion.


"We want to entertain and we certainly don't send out any team with 'not losing' in mind.


"If you win one and lose one, then you get more points than two draws. You have to try to win every game.


"What you have to remember is that the opposition are trying to do exactly the same.


"I hear Bernie Slaven on the Legends Show and I love him to bits.


"But Bernie played only two seasons in the top division and we were relegated on both occasions, though not through any fault of his.


"This league is much more competitive than it has ever been and it is harder than ever to win.


"There are some ferocious opponents.


"We prepare meticulously for every game but our opponents do exactly the same homework on us.


"That's why it is so scientific now.


"It used to be a game of draughts, now it's a game of chess.


"But we have come a long way and we have worked out how to play the game.


"The outlook is bright.


"Now it is up to us to prove it by getting the right results."

Gillandi Posted on 28/9 12:57
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"Gill: Did bernie short change you once in your taxi?
Your "hidden agenda" is disturbing."

Just stating the facts and giving my opinion pint-size.

Here's onother one. Three times as many people attended Lennie Larwences last game in charge at Ayresome than attended Bernie Slaven's testimonial at the Riverside.

Speak's volumes about Bernies "legendary" status at the Boro.

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beeline Posted on 28/9 12:57
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"It amazes me how so many people appear to blindy support McClaren regardless."

Well give Gibson a call and ask him Reckre.

Borowood Posted on 28/9 13:01
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Slaven's a whinging w***er and played with no passion.
As for those who listen to him on the Legends and even bother to phone in, words fail me!

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 13:01
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Ok. What is George Hardwick or Wilf Mannion had come out with Bernie's comments. Would the club be critial?

I tell you what if Mannion and Slaven played for McClaren they would not score becuase there is no supply line for the strikers.

tees_tug Posted on 28/9 13:03
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"As for those who listen to him on the Legends and even bother to phone in, words fail me!"


Well Gibson listens to the Legends for a start.

bandito Posted on 28/9 13:03
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Gill: For an old fossil like you I'd have thought you would have appreciated seeing someone knock in well over a hundred goals for your beloved Boro. It doesnt appear that way. You seem more interested in personality than results on a football pitch.

Gillandi Posted on 28/9 13:04
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

He should have said "listen for pleasure."

Leedsclive Posted on 28/9 13:06
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

PallysParkBench are you seriously comparing Wilf Mannion to Bernie Slaven?
Are you?
Do you think the moon's made of cheese?

sasboro Posted on 28/9 13:07
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

terry cochrance,jeff winter and paul kerr do say simialr things to slaven, but i guess their isnt a hate campaign agaisnt them

scoea Posted on 28/9 13:08
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I think Gibson is dead right in everything he has said in those interviews. He has been on the same journey as us and has the same feelings about the club. If he is happy with our progress and with the current manager then I am behind him.

red_rebel Posted on 28/9 13:08
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I think this is a bad move by Gibbo.

Look on here, people are squabbling over it already. There is a danger he will get dragged into all the point scoring when really he should remain aloof and keep his authority unchallenged until it really is time to act.

No matter what he thinks he should have kept his own councel for now. Like Mac should have over the fans. A stirring call for unity among the fans may have been more helpful.

All this in-fighting is a worrying sign. And looking at Rob's bit and the stuff in the Gazette lately it looks they are as much split as the public with Vickers v Palyor/Nichols.

It is all bad news. We really need a win tomorrow night. And Sunday. We need a bit of breathing space before it comes to actual fighting between rival fans.

Big_Shot Posted on 28/9 13:09
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

'I tell you what if Mannion and Slaven played for McClaren they would not score becuase there is no supply line for the strikers.'

Err, wouldn't Mannion be part of the supply line.

littledick Posted on 28/9 13:09
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bernies love of Gibbo, is beyond belief now....embarrasing to say the least !!

How many times a week does Bernie come out with:

"Steve Gibson, I call him the King Of Teesside"

Pass me the sick bucket;

Gillandi Posted on 28/9 13:10
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bandito - I said Bernie was a good player so wtf are you talking about with "agenda's" and "personality?" Get a grip. Ravanelli's goals for games ratio was just as good as Bernies but that doesn't make him right and noble with his every utterance or immune from criticism does it?

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 13:10
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Scoea, he said the same stuff during Robson's last season, did you agree with him then?

Are you saying that Robson deserved another season?

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 28/9 13:12
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

For a critique of football give me Bernie's view every time. Refreshingly honest. Gibson must feel hurt by the criticism and is having a litle dig back.

Now then, I know we are told about Gibbos's millions being poured into the club, but the club he bought is worth a lot more than it was when he purchased it. Does he put his hand in his pocket or does he guarantee that the club loans will be repaid?

I'm not knocking the fella here.....I think he's a brilliant chairman, I also think his team are by and large doing a tremendous job, that includes Keith Lamb. A great club has been built. It's just that the product for which they are not responsible, the football itself, is dire and Bernie's right to speak out.

So it's not a Bernie or Gibbo issue as was mentioned above. Oh, and by the way, a visit to the Celtic supporters clubs wouldn't be a bad idea for some on here.....they're well organised and a great place to meet before a match. It's about time we had a supporters club or two of our own, there's plenty of room outside the ground for one.

grantus Posted on 28/9 13:15
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Cheers Scarboro, always the man with the quotes.

When you read the whole thing its not that bad. I should know better than to trust a so called quote.

I'll bet that Bernie does not attack Gibson on air tonight, as some of you would think, because of his so called agenda.? The other two will laugh and he will take it with good humour, as he normally does.

Slaven is entertainment, top entertainment. Thats what he does, if you want the best analysis, go get the Times or the Guardian. My god, its like buying the Sun and then complaining that it doesn't give you an objective in depth political analysis of the current insurgents in Iraq.

The man is on a radio show, thats it. He doesn't work for Boro, he can say what he bloody well pleases and long may that be the case.

If you are too blind to appreciate that some people are not happy with what is happening and accept it. You either call these supporters names, or you call a radio pundit names. It's you i feel sorry for, i say it is you who is the idiot.

Grow up, defend your position, stop attacking and anme calling, learn to debate.

That goes for some who attack McClaren with stupid posts too.

Have we lost the art of conversation?

By the way, Mark Lawrenson is an absolute f'ckwit!!

scoea Posted on 28/9 13:16
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

BossHogg - I wanted Robson to leave before Gibbo referred to him as the "jewel in Boro's crown" (I think). However, that situation and this are completely different in my opinion.

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 13:19
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

No in 'modern day football' where an outside right does not exisit Mannion would play up front! He would not be part of the supply line. Would Samual Eto play wide, would Van Nistrrooy play wide, would Henry play wide, would Crespo play wide, would Owen play wide.

Get in the real world!

bandito Posted on 28/9 13:20
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Gill: you dont need me to tell you how disloyal and disruptive Ravanelli was to the club. despite his goals he was a constant pain in the arse and basically took the rise.

I'm glad I've rattled you and forced you to see sense tho

Tweek Posted on 28/9 13:21
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

pally i notice you never said would rooney play wide because he does... thanks to the genius that is sven.

tees_tug Posted on 28/9 13:22
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

You can email the Legends from here.


Mr. Gibson will be listening.

Link: Email the Legends

scoea Posted on 28/9 13:22
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Fergie plays him there as well!!

PallysParkBench Posted on 28/9 13:23
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Tweek. I know. I could not do it. McClaren and Sven think he is a winger!

ERICMUS Posted on 28/9 13:25
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I think everyone has too much time on their hands.

tees_tug Posted on 28/9 13:26
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Bernie's bit from the Legends web site.


“I’m not an official spokesman for Middlesbrough Football Club,” he goes on. “I work for Century FM and I’m passionate about the game and I say it as I see it. We get a real mixture of calls. Some are from fans who’ve watched the games then rung in with some good knowledgeable comments.” “Others who can’t get to matches listen to the show or read about what’s going on and call in with their opinions. Sometimes we think hold on, this guy knows what he’s talking about.” “There’s a lot of constructive criticism even support between fans of the big three North East clubs. They don’t just slag each other off that’s unusual, it wouldn’t happen in Glasgow between Celtic and Rangers supporters.

ERICMUS Posted on 28/9 13:35
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Part of the problem with the postmatch phone in's is that the only perspective callers (who never attended the match) have is based on Ally and Bernie's commentary. Whilst this is often dramatic, it is someone elses opinion.

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 13:37
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Cheers Scoea, just interested in your point of view..

My fear is that 'if' Mac doesn't improve matters, the fans remain against him, attendances remain down, and then a four year contract would turn sour with the hefty pay offs to Mac and his boat load of 'staff'..

Gibbo's loyalty is to be applauded, but I just wonder if that's the way he thinks in private!?!

br14 Posted on 28/9 13:37
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Only results matter. If we have two or three more like Sunderland in the next few weeks the noise on here and at the ground will be too loud for Gibson to ignore.

If we win a few games and look reasonable, the noise will quieten, and only those with extreme views will be spouting "SMac" out.

I'm not a season ticket holder this year, (logisitically impossible to get to games), but last year I sat through a lot of games home and away where we never looked like getting a result (though often enough did) and I can understand why patience is limited this year.

The game has changed. There are no bad teams in the Premiership. Thats why a team like Wigan can lose to Chelsea and Mourinho says they were unlucky.

It's true what Gibbo says. The game is more scientific and a team of hardworking players with limited skill can close out superior teams if they have the right discipline.

I've watched games on telly with Bernie commentating and have to say I've seen a different game.

Take Sunday. We dominated the game in the first half and reduced Sunderland to a couple of chances. If we'd had the same success rate of shots to goals we'd have won 7-2.

Thunderbird3 Posted on 28/9 13:38
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I wish I could have a dig at Bernie... right in the nads !

tees_tug Posted on 28/9 13:39
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

People who listen to Brownlee's commentary get to hear a better game than the one we see.


I've lost count of people who have said to me, "That sounded a decent game."

When clearly it wasn't.

zaphod Posted on 28/9 13:40
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

The problem Steve Gibson faces is that too many fans get hysterical every time there's a bad performance. Sacking managers over a few bad results/performances is the bane of football. Teams with a quick turnover of managers always fail.

Gibson only has a chance of building something lasting at the Boro if he takes a long view and doesn't get rattled by setbacks. Unfortunately a lot of fans think changing the manager after every setback is a good idea. Good job they're not in any sort of management.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 28/9 13:52
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Well said zaphod. Good to have some common sense for once.

davidchadwick Posted on 28/9 13:52
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

bandito
surely everything rav said has been proved to be right by gibson building rockcliffe and all its facilities

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 14:05
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"Sacking managers over a few bad results/performances is the bane of football"

Zaphod, this is more than 'a few bad results'!!

His league record in 2005 is :-

Won 6
Drawn 10
Lost 8

Points Available 72
Points Gained 28

That is the problem....

bandito Posted on 28/9 14:08
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Fao: David chadwick. Damn right he was right but we would hear all stories of him causing dressing room unrest and slagging players off, etc. What he said about the dog sh it on the pitch and stuff was bang on like

skiprat Posted on 28/9 14:09
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

You'd think it was:

Won 0
Drawn 0
Lost 602

The way people go on.

I'm shocked at the amount of people defending Bernie over Gibson. I like Bernie, but I'm surprised at the amount of sychophants that hang on his every word and criticism.

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 14:14
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

"but I'm surprised at the amount of sychophants that hang on his every word and criticism."

Your hardly a sycophant simply because his opinion matches yours!

skiprat Posted on 28/9 14:18
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

There's agreeing with what he's saying and then there's running your life and thoughts by what he says.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 28/9 14:23
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Gibson is absolutely right. Bernie was a good goalscorer but nothing else, he rarely won a header, made a tackle and is not a patch on any of the strikers we currently have in our squad. He was good in his day but his day has passed. Give it a rest Bernie.

Gibson is the man who has saved our club, the man with teh vision and foresight to turn a once ailing club into a Premiership and European power. Would we rather be Nottingham Forest, Sheffield Wednesday, Wolves, Sunderlnad, Leeds, Southampton, Crystal Palace, Ipswich, Derby, Norwich, Leicester, Coventry, etc??

I think some idiots think that's who they'd rather support. We're steadily improving year by year so shut up moaning and get behind the club before you destroy everything that Gibson has built for us.

sasboro Posted on 28/9 14:28
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Just because gibson is a chairman doesnt mean he is beyond criticism when justified or doeant gets things wrong occcassionally.

is the wigan chairman more of god than gibson? look at what he done for them?how about the bolton or charlton chairman?

lisbonlegend, if we are progressing as much as you think we are then check out our league record in 2005

--- Post edited by sasboro on 28/9 14:29 ---

grantus Posted on 28/9 14:33
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Lisbon, I wont shut up, if I want to moan, I'll f'cking well moan.

You go and support your European power club, whoever the hell they are.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 28/9 14:38
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Sas you know fine well our injury record severely hampered us in the latter part of last season. The season as a whole was a 7th place finish and European qualification despite the injuries.

What are you moaning about Grantus?

sasboro Posted on 28/9 14:43
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

can we use the 'injury' excuse again this season?

scoea Posted on 28/9 14:44
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Sas - a genuine question. Do you truly believe that injuries were merely an excuse last season or do you accept that they affected our form?

grantus Posted on 28/9 14:45
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

The usual gobshytes on here Lisbon, full of noise but no substance. That and our dire performances this season. That and some of the disrespectful comments towards the fans from the club. That and the all too obvious mistakes that McClaren makes. That and the cost of dry cleaning 2 suits, £17, wtf? That and various things, like the street around my work being locked down because of a stabbing all day, but the Police dont tell you its going to be all day until 1pm.

Oh, to add to above, the lack of a decent sized squad because of our failure in the transfer market, leaving the tired players, injured players as the reasons why/when/if we continue to underperform.

Not much really.

--- Post edited by grantus on 28/9 14:48 ---

Lisbonlegend Posted on 28/9 14:50
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

It's not an excuse but a reason. Being without the majority of your best players and having to field young kids with no experience is a very difficult position to be in when you are stretched by your own success in qualifying for the uefa cup.

Injuries are part of the game, if it was one or two then fair enough but it was more like 10 or 11 which is unmanagable.

So far I would say we had a reasonable point against Liverpool albeit a poor spectacle. A decent performance at Spurs but paid the price for missed chances and Schwarzers mistake. A great win at Birmingham. A dreadful performance against Charlton, their pace exploiting our weaknesses but tehy have gone on to show that they are a very good team. A brilliant result against Arsenal, an excellent result against Xhantia. An away draw at Wigan and a disaster of a game against Sunderland were nothing went for us.

Our form ahs been erratic but I think it's a confidence thing and having to change our team. We need Morrison on the right and Johnson/Quedrue on the left and we need Riggott back in the teram and Rocky to acclimatise to the pace of the Premiership very quickly. He ahs so much ability but made poor errors and snatched at things.

Why haven'y you had a go at the premiership predictions SAS?

sasboro Posted on 28/9 14:52
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

we've been thoguh this injuries thing loads of time so wont go into too much detail. some players benefitted by other players being injured(eg downing and mendieta, also morrison. who contributed a lot to our season) lets say for sake of arguement we would have finished 4th if we had no injures, so now this season with injuries already happening can we use the same excuse? mendieta is fit now, so i expect him to show the form we were missing when he was injured. ugo is injured again but is he an injury we missed?

scoea Posted on 28/9 14:54
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

So you're accepting that injuries affected our season last year and that without them we might have finished 4th?

sasboro Posted on 28/9 14:59
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

for sake of arguement i said yes, but this season we already have injuries so can we use the same excuse again come may?

scoea Posted on 28/9 15:03
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Well I don't want for the sake of argument. I want your opinion. Do you think that injuries affected our season? I don't want you to ask any questions with you answer. All want is simply your opinion.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 28/9 15:03
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I agree that our form so far has been erratic but it's early in the season and we need to get a run together. The 2 home defeats against Charlton and Sunderland were particularly painful and they only real entertainment at home we've had was the Arsenal win. Is it a coincidence that we struggled to entertain against Liverpool, Sunderland and Charlton because they sat there with 5 in midfield and counterattacked us. Arsenal were the only team that tried to come out and beat us.

I'd say we're in a sticky situation at the moment. Away teams must come here knowing that they can sit back and soak up the pressure and if they can sneak a goal then the crowd will turn and the game will slip away from us. If we're patient then we're labelled as boring, if we're gung ho then we're liable to gift an early goal and lose the game. It's a tough balancing act. How would you counter the oppositions tactics??

I think the club are hoping the fans will allow them the freedom to be patient and try and succeed but can see that the fans aren't patient cos they are paying their money to watch it. I rarely see many exciting games on teh TV nowadays and don't think it's McClaren, more the game in general but he's there to be shot at.

Transfer market was very frustrating but it was the same for most clubs with the exception of Chelsea and Newcastle who have money to waste. I think we have a decent sized squad overall but lack a centre back, winger and another central midfielder.

It's early days Grantus and things haven't quite gone to plan so far. The season could still turn out to be a good one. A win on Thursday will lift your spirits. Keep the faith.

I can't comment on the dry cleaning or your street though.

grantus Posted on 28/9 15:08
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I do still believe lisbon, I even still believe in our beleaguered manager.

But how do we counter the oppositions tactics at home? We take the initiative, let them worry about our tactics, get at them, put them under pressure, force the game and win it.

Something like that.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 28/9 15:13
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I think that's exactly what we tried to do against Sunderland but they fluked a goal. We looked up for it, Viduka fired a shot in the opening minutes and then tehy got a few lucky bobbles. If they hadn't I think we would have beaten them but that's the way football goes sometimes, and it devastated me. Watching Morrisona nd Viduka miss tehy sitters was like a knife through the heart especially when I was sat next to a Mackem laughing in my face.

I agree with you though, if we get at teams and they don't get as much luck then hopefully we'll win more oiften than not.

grantus Posted on 28/9 15:15
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Exactly, winning one and losing one is better than drawing two. The Sunderland game was a fluke. We cant hide and sit back.

sasboro Posted on 28/9 15:15
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

No, scoea. simple reason is that our season last season was built on the form of morrison(europe) and downing(prexmas) now without a player like mendieta injured they probably would not have got a look in and i doubt mendieta would not have made as much an impact as downing. only boateng was a crucial missing player(liverpool carling cup and after xmas). not usre about viduka cos he isnt relly doing much at the moment to prove he would have made much difference. Fact is every team suffers crucial injuries during the season and so has to deal with it

so onto this season. can we again use injuries as an excuse at the end of the season?if the answer is yes, then there must be something wrong with either the training techniques or we have got a bunch of old players who are injury prone

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 15:15
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Someone told me the other day that since McClaren joined us we have only come from behind, wey hey, to win a game, three times..

If that's true?, then that's further proof that our 'tactical genius' doesn't have a plan B and seems to struggle to motivate his team!!

scoea Posted on 28/9 15:18
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Or it could be evidence that the opposition have defended resolutely when going ahead and we have tried to break them down but been unable to. It depends on your perspective.

Sas - so your opinion is that injuries did not adversely affect our performances?

BossHogg Posted on 28/9 15:20
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Scoea,

Shaun71 Posted on 28/9 15:20
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

'Name another striker to score 15 goals in the Premier League since'

Er Ill give you 2. Ravanelli and Hamilton Ricard.

Im neither anti or pro Slaven. Yes I appreciated his goals for the club although his attitude at time was a bit suspect. I do believe hes got the clubs interests at heart although not naffing off back over the border when he retired doesnt wash. He wasnt exactly going to get on a Celtic / Rangers Legends phone in was he?

Its only right he speaks his mind but he does seem to pander to the boo-boys a bit too much for my liking.

What Gibson said was spot on. He played 2 seasons in the top flight and went down both times. We didnt exactly play scintillating football in a couple of seasons he was there.

Weve come a hell of a long way and nows not the time for the whole thing to come crashing down.

Underneath Gibsons comments there was a flashback to certain years. On this day back in 1982 we suffered our 3rd 4-1 home defeat in a row vs Grimsby Town in the 2nd division in front of less that 6000 fans. Or even on this day in 1990 we beat the might of Hull City 1-0 at home to reach the dizzy heights of 15th in Division 2. Reality reigned the next week, when we lost to Watford and dropped to 20th.

Were on the eve of playing in the UEFa Cup ,where weve got hell of a chance to progress to the group stages for the 2nd season running.

Rob was right in his column, its the UEFA Cup FFS not Grimsby away in the Anglo Italian. Some people really need a reality check. I shudder to think what the board would have been like 20 years ago!!

Bandi - A question, and not a dig too. Would you be Slavens 'mate' if he was just Bernie Slaven, parks gardener not ex Boro star?

sasboro Posted on 28/9 15:23
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

brownlee tipped us to draw at wigan and slaven tipped us to win? that cant be right!

jeeves Posted on 28/9 15:29
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Going back to the subject of the thread, I don't think Gibson is having a dig at Bernie at all. I mean look at the line straight after the quote used by tees tug. All he is saying is that a particularly vocal critic of the current Boro side/manager played at a time when we couldn't even stay in the top division for more than one season. Contrast this to the manager he is critical of and we have not only increased our points total in each season, we have also achieved higher league positions, culminating in our highest league placing in a quarter of a century. I don't think it's an unreasonable comparison to make and only serves to highlight just how much better the last few years have been than at various points in out history.

Having said all of that, I think there is a listlessness and lethargy about the club at the moment. It's not just on the field that this exists either. The commerical side seems to be just the same and obviously there is evidence of this in the fans, as can be seen by many of the threads on here over the last few weeks. After our best league season in years the club feels to me as if it's gone stale and I think this is a massive problem. Unfortunately the only thing I can think of that will put some spark back into it will be a change of manager. I just don't see anything else that will have the sort of effect required to get the club re-energized. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, merely that it may be the only thing.

grantus Posted on 28/9 15:31
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

nice moves scoa

I think the point is we benefitted from some of the injuries last season, well, Mendieta's anyway. Riezegers too probably. Would Downing and MacMahon have got their chance without the injuries?

Ultimately though, we did suffer over the course of the season.

tees_tug Posted on 28/9 15:38
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

If Gibbo is not having a pop at Bernie, why even mention him?

I know it is part of an interview, but must show he is irritated by Bernie on the Legends.

boroboy75 Posted on 28/9 15:39
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Shaun, Slaven stayed on Teesside for 3 or 4 years after he'd retired prior to getting any radio work.

jeeves Posted on 28/9 16:00
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I think he is using Bernie or rather the time he played as an easily understood contrast. The phone in and commentary are focal points for the criticism so it strikes me as a fairly obvious thing to do. What he says after the quotes you used puts his comments into their proper context.

Shaun71 Posted on 28/9 16:46
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Not quite BB75. When did he retire? Im guessing 95 as he left us in 93, and then went on to play for Port Vale and Darlo.

He started with Century after Big Mals faux pas v Coventry in 96. Wasnt he also involved with Boro TV at the time?

heine Posted on 28/9 16:57
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

i think Gibson is wrong for back biting and should not stoop so low
Slaven is only doing his job and should be aplauded
for speaking his mind when he could easily suck Gibbo's
knob as he get's well treated by him

20_Briggsy Posted on 28/9 17:01
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Gibson is 100% correct. Slaven is a doom and gloom merchant with hidden agenda's.

captain5 Posted on 28/9 17:03
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Which is not what Gibbo said, unless you can point out those direct quotes, young Michael.

20_Briggsy Posted on 28/9 17:05
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I know thats what he said, that was my opinion, which has been for some time. But he's not going to come out and say that really is he?

But he did have a dig at him, rightly so.

captain5 Posted on 28/9 17:10
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Ah, the old 'say that you agree with someone and then follow it up with a totally different opinion of your own'.

Classy *doffs cap*

I hope Buggerlugs and Tugsdale aren't charging for this tuition.

Revol_Tees Posted on 28/9 17:10
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I can understand Bernie and his mate Bandito feeling a bit upset, but it's fair comment Gibson is 110% spot on.

Kilburn Posted on 28/9 17:11
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Anyone who thinks that Gibson's comments amount to back-biting has either not read the full interview and is going by tug's niftily edited quote, or has badly misinterpreted what Gibson said.

bandito Posted on 28/9 17:14
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

yes Revol I'm traumatised. So is Bernie. I dont know how were both going to get over this.

Revol_Tees Posted on 28/9 17:16
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br14 Posted on 28/9 17:44
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Tell you what. If nothing else Bernie does a great job of getting Century's Legends show publicity.

Their advertisers must love him.

stocko_mfc Posted on 28/9 17:56
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

So if Bernie sat there and said everythings rosy all his critics would be happy with that eh..??? i doubt it. He says it as it is, or how he sees it and i think the vast majority of the fans agree with him. Sundays game for instance he criticised the decision to play Frankie on the left wing when young Johnson was fit, but not selected..was he wrong with that criticism????
I personally think he was spot on, it wasnt only a bad decision for the team, it must have also knocked Johnson's confidence as he did nothing wrong against Arsenal, but was deemed not good enough to play against sunderland.

jam69 Posted on 28/9 17:57
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

the problem with bernie is,he doesnt spend money he cant really afford to watch the club he has surported all his life.hes never stood out overnight for tickets,nicked off work,fell out with family spending money to watch"those useless buggers who will never win nowt",being bricked,bottled or spat on,hitchiked at 4 in the morning,given up hols,days out with the family,or actually given up anything to watch a team that as a rule shats on you,therefore when he comes on and says "as a boro fan" .nowt againist him,but how can he ever know/relate to how we feel?

20_Briggsy Posted on 28/9 17:58
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

stocko_mfc - I think Bernie is spot on some time. But the valid points he makes are totally wiped clean with all the doom and gloom he constantly spouts!

sasboro Posted on 28/9 18:03
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

jam69, you could say the same about gibson to a certain extent.

briggsy, constant doom and gloom? slaven predicted we woul dbeat wigan and brownlee predicted a draw

swindaj Posted on 28/9 19:07
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

The comisar is spot on on this one. Slavens description of what happends on the pitch is not just un-stable, but very often just wrong. He can't analyse a game tactically, I get more out of listening to 45 seconds of a five live report than an hour from him. He is in a very responsible position, as almost the mouthpiece of the Boro. He is not worthy of it - that chip on his shoulder is too big.I just dont bother with century anymore.

20_Briggsy Posted on 28/9 19:18
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Well said swindaj.

No smoke without fire.

tees_tug Posted on 28/9 19:27
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I am no doom and gloom merchant, but most of the people I speak to are closer to Bernie's thoughts than Briggsy's.

In fact, in real life, I don't know anybody with Briggsy's happy clappy attitude.

Also, although I find many of them grim myself, those callers to the Legends are Boro fans. They are just airing their views.

20_Briggsy Posted on 28/9 19:30
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Out of all the boro fans I know, more are reasonable than rational.

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tees_tug Posted on 28/9 19:38
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

Good quote that Briggsy!

20_Briggsy Posted on 28/9 19:40
re: Gibson has a wee dig at Bernie.

I knew you'd like it.