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thesmogster Posted on 21/4 11:15
North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Just sent an email letter (paraphrased below) to the club to try and get something organised for a card display in the North Stand before the 2nd leg with Steaua.

Posting here to try and raise awareness and guage the level of support in getting this off the ground. Iíll sort the designs but any input is welcome. How can I post the designs online so you can all see them and posssibly get FMTTM involved in supporting a central point for donations in covering any costs of buying card in bulk etc...

The letter went something like as follows:

After returning home from Bucharest following our narrow 1-0 defeat to Staeau, I couldnít help thinking that we may have Ďgot out of jailí to some degree last night after a surprising under-par performance. However, all certainly is not lost and to this end I would like to know the clubs feelings on an idea I have to help generate the same kind of partizan and intimidating atmosphere we experienced in Lia Manoliu last night among Boro fans for Steauaís visit in the return.

The passion showed by the Romanian fans was exceptional I think youíll agree. Certainly the most intimidating and hostile vocal support I think Boro fans have experienced in our short European journey. The display of colour prior to kick-off was inspiring as thousands of Steaua fans held cards aloft to reveal the word ĎFinalaí in yellow against a sea of red.

During the journey home, I was thinking how we, as fans, need now to do our duty and play our part in helping the team past Steaua and into the final in Eindhoven. We can do it - if we pull together - team and fans alike. Which is why I would like the clubs blessing to produce a similar card display with a message of inspiration from the north stand next week. I have a few ideas on what message to portray based on the challenge ahead - nothing too elaborate given time constraints. Just a plain and simple message to signal our intent.

As a North Stand season-ticket holder - and Graphic Artist who regularly produces artwork for external advertising - Iím feel fairly certain that I could organise the display with some help. But to do this, I need a north stand seating plan to calculate rows and seat numbers and to plan the positioning of the message. The messages to consider I think are as follows (all set on a traditional red, and white band background):

1) Sporting Glory (Steve GibsonĎs words)
2) Eindhoven
3) 2-0
4) You are My Boro
5) Forza Boro
6) Teessiders

I would be happy, to submit my visualised ideas in due course. Any other suggestions welcome!

In contacting MFC, Iím not asking for funding to help the realisation of my idea. Just the blessing of the club to execute it. I trust you will give it your full consideration so that I can start planning. I am avaiable for discussion at any time on XXXX XXX XXXX. Any help or information the club can provide me with - I remember how successful the card display at the Riverside was when England played Slovakia - regarding publicity to raise awareness and possible fan donations to cover any costs would be most welcome. Time is of the esssence.

Best regards.

ohtheway Posted on 21/4 11:20
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Absolutely spot on, we need everything we can.

I'm going to contact the club as well supporting this. I think you should also contact the Gazette, I'm sure they'll plug this for you.

Also, get yourself on the legends show tonight, they'll give you a plug.

We shold keep this hoofed, and come up with more suggestions. Lets make next Thursday night a great night, better pre-match build up etc.

dazfc85 Posted on 21/4 11:21
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it would only work before kick off since the majority of the north stand sit throughout the game were as it was clear on tv last night that they had large areas of people stood up! European grounds usually have a specific area were people stand and the mahority are male, were as our main stand is a mixture of menn/women/children and oaps!

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 11:22
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Saw Anthony Vickers there last night. Heíd get behind it for certain!!

ive_lost_me_flag Posted on 21/4 11:22
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Well if you sent it through the clubs website on the contact us page it wont work, they NEVER reply to those emails.

ohtheway Posted on 21/4 11:23
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Daz, before the game would be fine, or after a goal etc, whatever we can do to make this night a carnival, not just a game of football.

Regardless of the result, it will be a memorable night, and I'm sure the players will appreciate us doing our bit.

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 11:25
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It is intended for pre-match. But if itís publicised and people are aware, it will work.

Another point to note: May need to liase with the Surfer gadgies. Iím sure we can sort out timings. Get everyone in there early, get the surfer thing done before teams. Then cards as the teams take the field. Holding the message until nearly kick-off??

Boro85 Posted on 21/4 11:27
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As a surfer gadge im sure we can work round you lot. Our only problem is if we do it too early the stand is too empty. We could always give the surfer a miss if this card display is gonna go ahead.

ohtheway Posted on 21/4 11:28
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Sounds good smog, I'd just make sure you get onto the Gazette etc, and also maybe call the club to ensure they pick up your mail.

junior17_1985 Posted on 21/4 11:33
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i think a more touching phrase would be better with the guy posting about the holgate in the sky... something more like

for all watching down on us something liek that but more boro phrased if you get me... very good idea to be honest we have sang but we have been out done by numerous fans on travel especially at home also can we get this anthem of boro sorted would love a scarf over our heads tribute like liverpool/celtic it fires players up.

ohtheway Posted on 21/4 11:35
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Junior, can you re-post that in English please!

ohtheway Posted on 21/4 11:35
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Double post!

--- Post edited by ohtheway on 21/4 11:36 ---

XXLshirts_fit_all Posted on 21/4 11:37
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just have ERIMUS!

smoggieinmanc Posted on 21/4 11:42
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I agree, 'ERIMUS' would be good!

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 11:43
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Erimus has been done already as a flag...

Something more appropriate to the challenge would be more suitable. A message of inspiration...

ĎEINDHOVENĎ says it all for me... Failing that, FORZA BORO...

the_stallion Posted on 21/4 11:48
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To keep some on this board happy eg Gibson, what about BOOOOO

YoungAlf Posted on 21/4 11:51
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smogmonster - i am off work the day of the game and would certainly be willing to help you get the cards et prior to kick if you know ehere there going

i dont read the board too much so if you want to discuss further then e-mail me at cmcp84@hotmail.com

Buddy Posted on 21/4 11:53
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Small point of order. If it is happening more than thirty seconds before kick off, it will need to say:

W..R.. AL.. D..WN....TAI..RS FIN....ING ..UR PIN..S

Buddy Posted on 21/4 11:54
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(or C..FF..E, given that it's a UEFA game)

YoungAlf Posted on 21/4 11:54
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If we manage to get a big crowd the surfer could go up in the east stand maybe? didnt it go there first time but failed as it wasnt full enough?

then we can get even more atmospher started in other stands too

junior17_1985 Posted on 21/4 11:55
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

i think a more touching phrase would be better, with the guy posting about the holgate in the sky... something more like...

"for all watching down on us." something like that, but more boro phrased if you get me... very good idea to be honest we have sang but, we have been out done by numerous fans on travel especially at home. Also can we get this anthem of boro sorted would love a scarf over our heads tribute like liverpool/celtic, it fires players and fans up. better?

rozi Posted on 21/4 12:00
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Wonderful idea smogster, good luck, I really hope this will be approved and helped along by MFC, very disappointing if not.

Goal_Scrounger Posted on 21/4 12:10
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Smogster, I have a photo of that card display by Steaua last night if it's any use?

Couldn't we do the card display in the East Stand? "Sporting Glory" would fit along there nicely and would look great on the TV.

We could still have the surfer too then.

Derby_Red Posted on 21/4 12:13
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BRILLIANT idea Smogster, brilliant.

EmersonsPerm Posted on 21/4 12:28
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Excellent idea and I think Goal_Scrounger's suggestion is worth thinking about.

Having both a card display and the surfer would be fantastic!

Come on Boro!

The_Downing_Wave Posted on 21/4 12:30
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Didn't Gibbo say 'Sport and Glory'?

The_Downing_Wave Posted on 21/4 12:30
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Didn't Gibbo say 'Sport and Glory'?

bodysausage Posted on 21/4 12:33
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SMOGGIES IN THE FINAL

You will see the smoggies in the final

The ones winning all of the cups

You will see the smoggies in the final

If you love the Boro stand up

WOOF WOOF

peru_mfc Posted on 21/4 12:51
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Quality idea mate, what about " We shall overcome " revelvant for the night.

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 12:57
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WE SHALL OVERCOME is both appropriate and club-relevant.

Also the East Stand idea is great. However, could well be floored by the failure to fill it all season. It would be a minor gamble but if its well-publicised beforehand, we could make sure everyone is in. Leaving the North Stand to sing We Shall Overcome as the Surfer makes its appearance.

FANTATSIC!!

bigwheater Posted on 21/4 13:13
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I wish I sat in the North Stand I'm in the West Lower and its rubbish the most they would do is a Mark Page Mexican Wave.
Shout out to everyone who sits in the West Lower make some noise on Thursday and turn around and look at me and me mam when we start singing!

Nisko Posted on 21/4 13:13
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rather than just EINDHOVEN, how about:

EINDHOVEN
OR
BUST

Or does that sound too much like we're trying to hitch-hike there?

Buddy: How about:

W.'.e a.l j..t l...i.g th. p.b ..w

--- Post edited by Nisko on 21/4 13:18 ---

bigwheater Posted on 21/4 13:14
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That should have been DONT look at me and me mam. I hate it when people stare at you cos your singing!

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 13:14
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1) EINDHOVEN
2) WE SHALL OVERCOME
3) FORZA BORO
4) SPORT AND GLORY

Vote now please...

Donít forget, this is a one-off FOR THE NIGHT AND IN CONTEXT WITH OUR IMMEDIATE GOAL. ALSO CONSIDER THE NATIONAL AND EUROPEAN TV AUDIENCE WHOíLL BE WATCHING.

YoungAlf Posted on 21/4 13:16
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My vote goes for We Shall Overcome

bigwheater Posted on 21/4 13:20
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We shall overcome - perfect

guyr Posted on 21/4 13:22
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RED ARMY

Seems to be most popular chant

rozi Posted on 21/4 13:36
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Even tho I hate the song, We Shall Overcome sounds good to me, or Deep In Our Hearts

Buddy Posted on 21/4 13:46
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Exactly Nisko.

Gellis Posted on 21/4 13:47
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we shall overcome

also, i have been to a few Roma games, and even the small ones they have guys going round with a big pad of orange (in our case red) normal printer paper. everyone gets 2 pieces and holds them up. it only takes one person per block to walk up and down the aisles dumping a pile of paper at the end of the row. therefore, we could have the 'we shall overcome' in the holgate, and a sea of red in all the other stands. needs coordination I know, but imagine a sea of red rippling round the stadium.

i have a great phot from Roma of them doing this versus Inter, but dunno how to stick it on the board. anyway. it's a great idea, and i'll do my bit in block 36 East Stand if required.

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 13:52
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Well played Gellis - Comments noted...

I donít know how to place a link here either (Apple nonce) Iím afriad!!

Can someone advise?

bodysausage Posted on 21/4 14:12
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Can we have EURO GLORY or BORO GLORY instead of sport and glory?

--- Post edited by bodysausage on 21/4 14:19 ---

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 14:20
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ĎSport and GloryĎ were the words spoken by our leader... Canít remember the context exactly but he was suggesting that we are a club hunting for trophies rather than worrying about dipping attendances and falling revenue... I think (correct me please someone!!)

number_10 Posted on 21/4 14:26
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I reckon even just Red with a white band accross it would look pretty damn impressive.

Ayresome_Pork Posted on 21/4 14:28
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Is it possible for a two-sided message?
Side A:"Thank You Boro -- We're A Small Town In Europe"
Flip to Side B: "Geordies: The Bill is on ITV1"
AP

number_10 Posted on 21/4 14:33
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Why not have the surfer come out at half time if both are to be for the north stand?

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 14:35
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Sadly too complicated and involves the printing of the cards with which time and cost become a factor...

It has to be just words - or a word - using two/three colours of card strategiacally placed. It needs to look the business though. Our stage is huge on this fateful night...

YoungAlf Posted on 21/4 14:42
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smogster - have you had any responses from club/gazette people you contacted about this as yet?

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homer945 Posted on 21/4 14:54
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if you need any help im ready and willing ill get sum of me mates to give you a hand aswell im only 15 like so it would have to be after school

bodysausage Posted on 21/4 14:55
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4 huge letters


B O R O


after a few seconds the left half (B O) of the stand rotate their cards to read


E U R O












Come tf on!

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 15:21
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Nothing back from club as yet.

Still at work but leaving shortly. Will contact the club for thier initial response, then the Geezette if the club are up for it!!

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 15:22
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bodysausage:

Nicee idea. Not sure if itís quite inspirational enough though...

TS17_BORO_ULTRA Posted on 21/4 15:27
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great idea keep us posted mate wat about PARMO ARMY

bodysausage Posted on 21/4 15:39
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Smogster, I know what you mean mate, it's not right. But I think it needs to be something big and simple like that.

1 9 8 6


2 0 0 6

bodysausage Posted on 21/4 15:40
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C O M E

T F O N

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Scrote Posted on 21/4 16:00
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we shall overcome

in the east stand

with the candlestick

erm - hang on - thats not right...

i think the idea is great and shouldn't be too difficult to sort out if the club get behind it - you would think the game will sell out (although boro fans never cease ot amaze me with their apparent apathy) so getting it across the east stand would be the best choice

that way the cameras in front of the west stand can't fail to miss any display even if they are from itv!

LLPJ Posted on 21/4 16:01
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I like We Shall Overcome.

great idea Smogster, it's people like you that get things done!

thehump Posted on 21/4 16:10
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It needs to be something short and simple. We Shall Overcome is too long.

Needs to be in the North Stand because the East Stand never sells out

lisa1982 Posted on 21/4 16:11
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We shall overcome definatley gets my vote

gibson Posted on 21/4 16:17
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All for this.Hope it can be done.
Stallion, give yer head a shake, I'm no 'BOO BOY' never have been, never will be.I reserve my right to have a go about a crap performance.End of rant.

craigyboro4eva Posted on 21/4 16:22
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has to be we shall overcome , one of my best memories as a supporter is in the holgate pissing down with rain and beating villa to get to our first final i still believe the crowd got us over the line with we shall overcome

boroboroboro Posted on 21/4 16:55
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We WILL Overcome

HOOF!!!!!

Mat_Evans Posted on 21/4 17:06
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we shall over come, followed by a rendition of it as it IS actualy quite apt for the situation and would help lift the crowd.

Smithy_MfC Posted on 21/4 17:10
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we shall overcome

The_Commisar Posted on 21/4 17:10
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Hello all
funnily enough when this thread was knee high to a little Mickey Owen, I had already e-mailed Dave Allen.
I have now recived the following response.


Finally found your email afterall. I have forwarded a copy on to Dave's home address which he will see tomorrow on his return from Bucharest. I'm sure if this is something that would be of interest he would contact you. Unfortunately, I'm unable to inform you of what the club have planned for Thursday's game, it may be possible that UEFA have something lined up. I know we have done something similar in the past but it is possible that due to the management being away in Bucharest it may be short notice to get something like this underway.

Your message will however be forwarded on and we'd like to thank you for writing to us with your idea.

Kind regards
Liz Allison
Media and Communications Department


Smogster
IF he gets back to me I'll ensure your contacted, will you be posting on the board Saturday ?

Hicktons_Haircut Posted on 21/4 17:24
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Just in from work. Great Idea. It's we shall overcome for me. This song is heaped in Boro tradition and has been sung by my father and grandfather. Sure'ly the whole ground would respond. Oh and how many UEFA cup games have some of this board members been to? You cant get beer in the concourses on these nights!

boroboroboro Posted on 21/4 17:30
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RE:

Response to this from MFC

We CANNOT let beuarocracy destro the atmosphere for Thursday!!

This, (or something similarly big MUST) happen on Thursday!!!

Don't tell me that the Steaua crowd p*ss about with 'official permissions etc.

And what about the Banik lot last year?

MFC cannot be allowed to see Thursday night pass off with a wimper and not a huge BANG!!!

Come On Boro!!!!!!

Hicktons_Haircut Posted on 21/4 17:46
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"It may be short notice to get something like this underway". How pathetic can you get! In my line of work, if you lost all power to the Riverside, I could have it up and running again with generators within 12 hours! We are talking about putting a few thousand cards under seats and advertising the fact through the Gazette. With a can do attitude it could be sorted in an afternoon. What pace do you people work at!

The_Commisar Posted on 21/4 17:55
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look, to do this you need access to the ground and a few hundred quid, so lets work with the club, smogsters moved mountains to get this far, lets see what the club come back with.

flynnie_juninho Posted on 21/4 17:57
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WE SHALL OVERCOME is my choice, fits well with the situation

achambers Posted on 21/4 18:16
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Great idea we need to generate an electric atmosphere on the night to be the 12th man

Sorry never liked We shall overcome , always sounds sad to me and remember it sang late at Wembley when we lost so not good memories
Think Eindhoven is great
What about Eindhoven booked!
or Steelmen March On
Pride Passion Persistance

badgegadge Posted on 21/4 18:31
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Great ! Go for it smogster. Love the 'We Shall Overcome' idea but lots of other decent slogans as well. We must create the best atmosphere ever at the Riverside.
COME ON BORO!

rozi Posted on 21/4 19:53
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Smogster, I would be willing to help out with funds, am sure most others on here would as well, look how much was raised for the surfer and for Miro.

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 20:16
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the_commisar:

Its all getting a bit confusing now, but more than pleased that we appear to be getting some movement. I}ll keep my eye on the board tomorrow for sure. Iím getting a buzz from organising this now and must thank everyone for thier encouragement.

Iíll - or if you wish to thatís fine - contact the Gazette once we get the OK from the club to go ahead. Quite frankly, I canít see how they could refuse.

Over the course of tomorrow, Iíll work on some designs to see how the options are going to work. In the meantime, for publicity purposes can you start a thread to establish a point of contact for the press. An organising comittee in effect. My contact details are below should anyone wish to contact me before monday. Once we have a seating plan Iíll get cracking on sourcing the card. One final point: How can we set up a thread for fans to make donations towards the cards. Maybe Rob could help with tsetting this up? Iím happy to fork out to get it done - and of course Iíll cost everything up. I reckon £200 tops would do it. Maybe less! I think it has to be a NORTH STAND effort. The East has been empty on the wing stands all season. It wonít work unless it}s full. I}m not prepared to make an arse of this therefore (boro85) , can the surfer go across the East for this game please?

geoff.thomas14@btopenworld.com

iludicrous Posted on 21/4 20:21
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I remember for one of the big flags there was a website with a Paypal donation link, could someone not do that, a few quid from everyone would easily cover costs.

And the red a4 sheets on all seats west, south and east souns a great idea - don't know how much 25000 a4 sheest would cost??

mowbrays_number_4 Posted on 21/4 20:44
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smogster-i liase with Dave Allan regarding the surfer and i'm sure that there will be no problems about launching it in the east stand allowing the card display to make the north stand look superb to the away fans

i'll mail you so you can contact me if needed.

b0r0 Posted on 21/4 20:49
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You'd need A3 sheets, A4 won't do the job. Would look very patchy if somebody wearing a black top for example held a A4 card up you'd see more of the black top than the card. Deffo A3 size.

trippy Posted on 21/4 20:54
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Good luck with the display lads. And glad you thought Steaua's atmosphere was great. It's even better when we play in our ground as the stands are close to the pitch.

See you in Middlesbrough next week.

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 20:56
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Geniunely made up with everyoneís response - and nice one rozi. I just want to see us crack this and make the rest of the clubs fans in this country take us seriously for once in a season when our reputation (ie: numbers ) has taken a bit of a beating.

Regarding the practicalities:

HAS to be A3. Depending on cost, Iíd like to see the East and/or West full of Red too... The white band would be touching too!

bororeddaz Posted on 21/4 20:57
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'we shall overcome'
sums it all up
or to be more upbeat on the same lines
'deep in my heart'

b0r0 Posted on 21/4 21:01
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Either of those two mentioned by bororeddaz would definately strike a chord with the Boro players when they came on the pitch.

If you manage to sort this out and pull it off, your a legend!

b0r0 Posted on 21/4 21:02
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Get in touch with Staples regarding the card, ask for discount if you buy in bulk.

Jimmy_Boy Posted on 21/4 21:22
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TheSmogster - you have mail ! Subject CARD DISPLAY - OFFER OF HELP

How is this being funded? Do we know yet? Is there a link somewhere? We shall overcome is my choice. Fits the bill perfectly.

Now this is what my thread ws on about on Tuesday.. this is how we can make a difference to the atmspshere at the riverside. Lets get organised and stay organised.

Boro290204 Posted on 21/4 21:27
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It should display the word of the season... MAGNIFICENT

brazillio Posted on 21/4 21:50
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great idea fellas.

for it to work it needs to be simple, ie seating plan etc.

Best bet is 2-O in the North Stand and maybe at a push BORO in the east stand ala BANIK.

Seeing the banik fans going to that much trouble really put us to shame and was quite intimidating being in the opposite stand BTW.

Grumpy_Paul Posted on 21/4 22:16
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How about something like the top and bottom thirds of the north stand being red and the middle third being white with the word ERIMUS in red.

People being people, the reaction to the word erimus will be what is that and many will look it up, thus a little education for the nation on things Boro.

I can imagine the pundits on TV commenting 'WTF is Erimus?'


I'm an armchair fan nowadays but would be happy to throw in a donation if this goes ahead. Best of luck and I hope you guys manage to pull it off, (the card display that is. )

--- Post edited by Grumpy_Paul on 21/4 22:17 ---

BoroMod Posted on 21/4 22:42
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Definitely 'We Shall Overcome' for me, it says everything.

Second choice would be 'Erimus' i think.

If anyone sets up a paypal account for this i'll donate a few quid.

stepat Posted on 21/4 22:43
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Im willing to donate a few quid, and help with anything on the day.

thesmogster Posted on 21/4 23:19
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First things first (given the club OK the plan).

Can someone advise me on who - and how - to set up a donations link which we can use and use again when a game of this magnitude comes along? I will set it up tomorrow if poss.

Iím happy to stand the cost initially to get this done in a rush - on the proviso that we - as fans collectively - can raise the equivalent through donations.

I guess we should have a name and call our selves an official ultras fans group!! Any ideas anyone?

Jimmy_Boy Posted on 21/4 23:21
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Ayresome Angels

iludicrous Posted on 21/4 23:23
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Smogster - go to Paypal site, set up a personal account and people can donate if they have a Paypal Account too. Alternatively, get a Business account so people can donate thru debit cards - only thing is I think they charge for this account. If you set it up, let people know the email account it goes to, then they can donate - I reckon you'd have a fair wahck in before you have to dish out any money

Smifter Posted on 21/4 23:24
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Yeh Ayresome angels is a good name to use for this paypal account thingy ma jingy. Smogster you will have nay bother getting your money back, great idea, keep us all posted.

iludicrous Posted on 21/4 23:24
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Sorry - link

Link: Paypal sign up

MatrixUK Posted on 21/4 23:27
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Create an email address for example 'Steaua.display@ntlworld.com' and create a paypal account to use the email address then ask people to send money to the address in the normal manner via paypal

Jimmy_Boy Posted on 21/4 23:31
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Good idea matrix, but long term wouldn't it be better that the email address Ayresome.Angels@ntlworld.com be used?

That way your paypal account email is always relevant?

Just set up email address with ntl or whoever, before registering paypal account.

--- Post edited by Jimmy_Boy on 21/4 23:33 ---

Smifter Posted on 21/4 23:32
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

I agree Jimmy Jimmy

MatrixUK Posted on 21/4 23:33
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Smogster - If you want me to organise the donations I'll be happy to do so ??

Let me know and it'll be up and running before midnight

toddymfc50 Posted on 22/4 0:16
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

paypal would be a decent way wouldnt it?
sounds great to me i love stuff like this

shaungav Posted on 22/4 0:18
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

99

shaungav Posted on 22/4 0:18
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

100

MIGHTY_BORO Posted on 22/4 0:22
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

MINT keep up the good work
i agree we shall overcome would be great but it is abit long 2 fit in the north stand the letters would have to be small unless it was done
WE SHALL
OVERCOME

thornabyred Posted on 22/4 6:24
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Angel Ultras has been on the web for a couple of years now although not updated it much this season due to lack of spare time.
Only problem with ultras name is some people thin you are a hooligan group like Roma etc.

Jimmy_Boy Posted on 22/4 10:10
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Agreed Thornaby, keep away from Ultra names. Right across europe the tag is associated with hooligans.

If we ever wanted help from the club or gazette for publicity, then I dont think they'd be too happy with that association.

I think my Ayresome Angels idea is best !!

Paulinho Posted on 22/4 10:15
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Smogster, all this 'let's do this and let's do that' malarky is undermining your excellent idea. You just decide what it's going to be son.

Mind you, Geordies at home watching The Bill would have the whole country pis sing themselves.

thesmogster Posted on 22/4 10:48
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Morning All...

Overwhelmed by everyones resonse. Plan for today is:

1) Iíll be setting up a paypal account for fans to donate towards the cost of buying the card. Hopefully this will be active sometime this afternoon. BIG THANKS TO ILUDICROUS and JIMMY BOY

2) Organising committe to be registerd as ANGELS. Thatís who we are from this point forward. All media activity surrounding projects we undertake will be under this identity.

3) Message simply to read WE SHALL OVERCOME. (Hopefully accompanied by a chorus of the song as we hold aloft our message of insiration.

4) Following the activation of a paypal account, I will be contacting the Gazette to see what they can do to help publicise our project.

5) Suggest we hold aloft AFTER pigbag until kick-off. The teams will be on the pitch and our lads will get a huge buzz from our message and the Romanians hopefully will know they have a job on!!

Further comments welcome...

thornabyred Posted on 22/4 11:42
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

tried to register an angels e mail addy for you on googlemail .
best I could get is BoroAngels.

if you want to use it then e mail me and I will send you the password etc.
boroangels@googlemail.com

MontagueWithnail Posted on 22/4 12:07
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

love this idea, my suggestion would be

B O R O
______________________

1 9 8 6
______________________

E R I M U S

toddymfc50 Posted on 22/4 13:34
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

no pigbag i reckon its just the same every game im fooking sick of it just no music let the fans sing we shall overcome

b0r0 Posted on 22/4 13:39
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

I bet half the crowd won't know the words to we shall overcome.

outoftowner Posted on 22/4 20:06
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

one of them sweet volleys you don't feel



1st - ERIMUS
2nd - 12th man
3rd - believe

MatrixUK Posted on 22/4 21:02
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Any news Smogster ???

badgegadge Posted on 24/4 9:11
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

After yesterday this is needed more than ever - any news?

thesmogster Posted on 24/4 9:56
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Waiting for club feedback.

Seating plan finalised and design is done and online. Card ordering is in process.


http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/thesmogster/?sc=3?sc=3

Link: Steaua Card Display

thesmogster Posted on 24/4 10:25
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Designs online.

Active donation link set-up via paypal at:- holgate_angels@yahoo.co.uk.

GO TO IT EVERYONE!

COME ON BORO!!!

paulwilko10 Posted on 24/4 10:41
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Need a password matey !!

thesmogster Posted on 24/4 10:47
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

SORRY...

Password
geoff0364

ScarboroSmoggy Posted on 24/4 10:52
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

I think the cards should spell out 'we shall overcome' and everyone should hold them up when the teams come out and the whole ground should burst into a corus of we shall overcome.

ScarboroSmoggy Posted on 24/4 10:56
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

The passwords not working mate.

North_West_Corner_16 Posted on 24/4 10:57
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Neither for me..... hoofty.

Mr_Incident Posted on 24/4 11:04
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

smogster, go into your Photobucket account options and select 'make public'.

North_West_Corner_16 Posted on 24/4 11:18
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Smogster, can you make this public to everyone.

thesmogster Posted on 24/4 11:33
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Sorry Lads.

Seating plan now available to view...

MIGHTDODUNNO Posted on 24/4 11:35
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Personaly....




I love it!!

paulwilko10 Posted on 24/4 11:44
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

I thought it was gonna be We Shall Overcome ???

arma Posted on 24/4 11:47
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

I'm confused, are the cards displaying 'We Shall Overcome' or 'Eindhoven'?

Personally I think we shall overcome is best but fantastic job regardless people. Will make a donation in a sec

Mat_Evans Posted on 24/4 11:48
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

yeah what happend is it not viable??

thesmogster Posted on 24/4 12:09
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Spent all day saturday working out seating plan and making the various options fit.

The problem we have with WE SHALL OVERCOME are two-fold.

1) the position of the tiers are problematic for a two-line message.
2) Secondly, and possibly more fundamental is the fact that due to time restrictions, we have little time to print onto the cards to obtain sharp-edged lettering. The letters therefore need to be formed by the cards themselves strategically placed. Which means keeping the letters large for us to obtain the quality of display. Therefore, WE SHALL OVERCOME simply just doesnít fit to be of sufficient legibility.

We can still belt out a chorus of WE SHALL OVERCOME though, as I see things and after discussion with Ďthe_commisarĎ it looks as if the display will be shown as Pigbag is being played. THE NORTH STAND WILL NOT TAKE PART IN THE CLAPPING. THEY WILL BE HOLDING CARDS WHILST SINGING THE RUN-OUT TUNE. The East, West and South stands - THIS IS YOUR TURN TO GET IN ON THE ACT. For this match the surfer will hopefully surf the EAST STAND.

tiddler_boro Posted on 24/4 14:37
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

... hoof

Powlay Posted on 24/4 16:20
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

get the surfer in the SW upper corner an then accross to the NW upper :D better than the little spot in the south surely?

thesmogster Posted on 24/4 16:49
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Surfer will be going East for the night - hopefully just like Steauaís chances of UEFA Cup glory!!

littlejimmy Posted on 24/4 16:55
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

I must admit I'm slightly nervous about the wording. I think it has the potential to blow up in our faces if we don't get through. We should do it at the final, not before we get there.

ERIMUS would have been better, IMO. It is profound and slighlty mysterious (everyone will want to know what it means).

Just my opinion.

boroboy75 Posted on 24/4 16:57
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

What are the cards like?
Can you make aeroplanes out of them easily?

thornabyred Posted on 24/4 17:42
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

any news on permission,time to meet etc.

wally102 Posted on 24/4 18:05
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Great idea.

wally102 Posted on 24/4 18:58
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Hoof

iludicrous Posted on 24/4 20:02
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Come on all - PAY UP!

nji10873 Posted on 24/4 20:13
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

i know its a bit long but how about "BRUCIE RIOCHS RED and WHITE ARMY"

bobcarolges Posted on 24/4 20:18
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF LETTERS MISSING THOUGH DUE TO EMPTY SEATS!!!
1937/1973

--- Post edited by bobcarolges on 24/4 20:18 ---

thesmogster Posted on 24/4 22:30
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Steaua Display latest:

All is in place. We have club approval and the Gazette are on board to help publicise the event. Cards are on order - just short of 6,000 of them. The donations are going superbly well (VERY proud of you all - KEEP THEM COMING).

The plan is to use Pigbag as our queue to hold the cards aloft in unison. As soon as Pigbag belts out over the PA, the stadium will clap as usual EXCEPT THOSE IN THE NORTH STAND. Cards will be raised to spell the word EINDHOVEN (top tier) 2006 (lower tier) as the NORTH STAND CHANTS TO PIGBAG ONLY. The display will be held aloft throughout the team line-up announcements RIGHT UP UNTIL KICK-OFF when cards are lowered to a rousing chorus of WE SHALL OVERCOME...

At present Iím trying to organise some announcement of timings over the PA via Mark Page in the time fans are starting to arrive at the Stadium in an effort to get everyone in the North Stand to thier seats at leats 10 minutes before kick-off. Not surprisingly, Mark Page isnít playing ball!!! Failing that - and that is how things stand at present, we will have to use our own queue and use other means of publicity. Therefore, announcements via Radio Cleveland and Century FM (Legends Chat show) will be made between tomorrow and Wednesday. Look out also for Anthony Vickers column in Tuesday nights Gazette.

TIMING IS EVERYTHING FOR THIS TO WORK. PLEASE NORTH STANDERS, TAKE YOUR SEATS EARLY. WAIT FOR PIGBAG. STAND PROUD WITH YOUR CARD AND INSPIRE THE TEAM TO THE UEFA CUP FINAL...

OooOo Posted on 24/4 22:53
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Brilliant - cant wait!

hot_boro_girl Posted on 24/4 23:05
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Shouldnt the display be after the game if we get through, although its a brilliant idea couldnt it of cursed us?

middlesbro_redsox Posted on 24/4 23:07
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

The whole purpose is to show the players we are backing them all the way. They need to see our support before the match, i'm sure they are feeling a bit down after thursday.

Hopefully this will give them a bit of a rush as they leave the tunnel and are greeted with a huge display of passion.

middlesbro_redsox Posted on 24/4 23:08
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Smogster:

I suggest dishing the balloons out in the West Lower. That way you've got more chance of the players noticing the extra support.

Try getting the Jackpot Ticket Sellers / Snack Bar Staff / Turnstile Operators / Programme Sellers to give them out.
Leave bunches of balloons on the counters ready to be blown up.
This will be very useful if you manage to get shed loads of balloons. Even if the ballons were just there ready to grab as you passed through the turnstiles that would be effective.

If you can organise a group in the West to do something like this, or place a load on the chairs a while before kick off that would be great.

Cursed or not, at least we can see we tried.

OooOo Posted on 24/4 23:10
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Only problem I can see with this whole thing is that most fans do not arrive in the ground until 5 to never mind in their seats!

crisboro Posted on 24/4 23:29
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Yes agree so have texted the 15 people i know in the north to let them know, if everybody spreads the word it will help.
Also no beer as its europe , that will help.

--- Post edited by crisboro on 24/4 23:34 ---

fluteloop Posted on 24/4 23:40
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Well done smogster! This should be good.

Boro_Forever Posted on 25/4 1:22
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Sterling work there mate, how are the cards getting put into the stadium?

thesmogster Posted on 25/4 8:13
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Cards will be placed in the seats during the afternoon leading up to the game. They are being delivered to my work in Sunderland. Iím taking the afternoon off and will post later today requesting volunteers to join me. Hopefully from around 2 or 3pm?

Those who have already voluteered in principle thank-you. I need to firm this up now. When I can speak to the club (???) I will finalise timings as yet I donít know when I will get access to the stadium.

THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYONESíS SUPPORT ON THIS. YOUĎRE AMAZING!

Chesterlista Posted on 25/4 8:19
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Just sent a donation. Good luck guys.

gibson Posted on 25/4 8:27
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Great news, just a suggestion, as what is actually happening is somewhat 'lost in the thread' if you know what I mean, So every body is aware of what's happening,why not post the details on a separate thread and keep it hoofed, hopefully, word of mouth will do the rest.

ScottFace_88 Posted on 25/4 9:33
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

HOOF!

Plus im off college on Thursday, so i am available to help with any planning, or any other work to get this card display sorted. If needed.

Let me know if you need my help, Scottface_88@hotmail.co.uk

Cheers
Scott.

danby Posted on 25/4 10:55
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

cant you get something put on the mfc.co.uk website, i know lots of people read that. i hope you pull this off and gain legendary status on teesside smogster!

OooOo Posted on 25/4 12:46
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

HOOF HOOF

Buddy Posted on 25/4 12:57
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

"As soon as Pigbag belts out over the PA, the stadium will clap as usual "



Otherwise, all great if it works, but I don't think it will.

Islandstone Posted on 3/6 19:31
re: North Stand Card Display V Steaua

Buddy, I think it will