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onetoomany Posted on 7/7 13:40
Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Definately be worth recording. Looking at the photo he doesn;t look too bad. Hopefully he'll silence a few of his critics i.e devoted follwers of the nations red tops!!

Link: Johnathan Woss

coheadboro Posted on 7/7 13:41
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the only way he could not look too bad would be in a coffin

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boroboy75 Posted on 7/7 13:42
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Dirty scaghead.
A reason to not bother watching it tonight.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 13:47
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Whats wrong with Pete Doherty??? A gifted individual who happened to lose his ways somewhat through heroin, however, he is now off the drugs and on the road to recovery-good on him I say, lets look forward to hearing some more quality music from the geeza.

bigtl_billingham Posted on 7/7 13:49
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Wonder if he will be wearing his 'perple shert'

PodgerC Posted on 7/7 13:49
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That's me reaching for the 'Off' button then

blotonthelandscape Posted on 7/7 13:52
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How do they know he said what he said if it hasnt been on yet?

mattfj Posted on 7/7 13:53
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It was filmed earlier in the week.

Boro_Kevin Posted on 7/7 13:53
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Got that T.

I hope he doesn't read off his call centre script while talking to Ross.

blotonthelandscape Posted on 7/7 13:54
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Thanks

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 13:54
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Crap Music Crap bloke.

Shame on Jonathan Ross.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 7/7 13:54
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He is now off the drugs?

Since when, his last hit?

Smackhead tvvat.

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 13:54
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Why won't you be watching it? surely being an intellegent adult you aren;t going to let the tablods dictate what you watch on television. And you surely wouldn't deny Mr Doherty the chance to give his side of the story!? Just proves what a hold the tabloids have over everyone, everyone belives what they read. Your sad I'm afraid.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 13:57
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Why do people slate him because he takes drugs???
Is he a pusher??? Does he sell drugs to school kids??? Are the albums he has been involved with been critically acclaimed???
Whats everyones problem with him???

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 14:07
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If I watch it I am a open-minded adult who can make his own decisions. If I don't watch it I am a zombie dictated to by Newspapers.

Well I am an open-minded adult but am appalled that such a waste of human DNA can be given air-time to try and promote his former lifestyle as being a wild party that he just couldn't stop. He's a vvanker and anyone who endorses his life-choices is in the same boat.

I hope your daughter brings him home one day. Maybe Babybollix will play at the wedding and you can all have a good laugh about us narrow minded puritans

BoroMod Posted on 7/7 14:14
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I'll record it as i'm going out tonight but i'm interested to hear what he has to say.

I'm not his bggest fan, largely because of his reliance on heroin but everyone deserves a second chance. I actually like his music and The Libertines are one of the best bands i've ever seen live (without Pete they were distinctly average).

mattfj Posted on 7/7 14:14
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FAO Andy_Pitkin; An open minded adult like yourself would perhaps realise then that Pete Doherty has never condoned his lifestyle, quite the opposite in fact. On numerous interviews (not just the ones conducted by the tabloids) he has said not to take drugs or you will end up like him.
A lot of peoples hatred for the bloke stems from what they read in the tabloids and unlike the majority, I do not write him off simply because of his drug taking.

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 14:16
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thanks for the shout onetoomany, should be very interesting viewing.

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 14:17
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However if your daughter brought home, John lennon, Jim Morrisson, Jimmi Hendrix, George Best, Keith Richards, Paul Mcartney, David Bowie, Roger Waters.....nearly any famous musician in history has been on Herion at some point!! I put George Best in as well, because he was a genius wrecked by addiction, who got a new liver and still carried on drinking..yet according to the Sun and I assume being a football yourself he's a genius who will be sadly missed. Yet you would see Mr Doherty as dying as a good thing?! Very strange

neiltrodden Posted on 7/7 14:21
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A response to a couple of quotes:

"Does he sell drugs to school kids???"

"Pete Doherty has never condoned his lifestyle"

Did I imagine those pictures of him injecting a young female fan at his flat then?

boroboy75 Posted on 7/7 14:22
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The bloke is an absolute louse, who will die having choked on his own vomit.
All the kids love a rebel though, don't they?

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 14:22
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Matt - If he hadn't taken drugs, bedded a junkie 'supermodel', argued with the press, made a c_nut of himself at every opportunity with the police and hidden behind a "don't do as I do" shield he would never have got onto Jonathan Ross. It's what he is known for. Maybe not to you as a music devotee but to the overwhelming populace. If that is the tabloids fault then tough. I bet his recording company has never called The Sun and told them which Pub he was in.
Glorifying junkies (reformed or not) is a bad idea. Let him talk about music on BBC4. If he wants to set the record straight then he should write a book. Interested people would buy it.

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 14:23
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Err yes you did neil, I can give you a link to a messagebaord where Pete sometimes posts, and he explained where those pictures had come from!!

see the link

Link: Pete explains

neiltrodden Posted on 7/7 14:26
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How does that clear anything up? They stole them from his flat .. right???

How did they stage a picture of him leaning over and injecting a clearly incapacitated young fan? Was he really giving her a massage?

Take your fanboy-tinted specs of and realise he is a scumbag and no amount of music talent changes that fact.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 14:26
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No, you didnít imagine them, however, if you read around the subject, you will have noted that he was removing a needle from the arm of a fan who had overdosed. It was the Sun that put them in the papers claiming he was injecting an innocent young girl. I think its commonly known as spin, a ploy to sell more papers!!!

mattfj Posted on 7/7 14:35
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Andy; But why do the press pick on him; he is first and foremost a musician; all the other 'baggage' (drugs, supermodels etc) is the stuff the tabloids pick on because it sells papers. When was the last time you read about the thousands of happy fans that have attended a Babyshambles gig in the Sun or the Mirror, probably never I am thinking.
Put yourself in his shoes; hounded by the paparazzi 24hrs a day, I am sure you are going to flip at some point.

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 14:35
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If any of my daughters brought home one of those people I would be appalled and because they are drug addicts. Just because their music was infinitely better than Doherty's changes nothing.
George Best's passing means nothing to me. People tried to excuse his deficiencies by his "football genius" in the same way they excuse Doherty's by his music. No sympathy here. So don't make assumptions on my behalf.
Pathetic excuse he offerd about the photograph. On a par with Goebbels explaining pre-war human rights violations by the SS as "there's always one bad apple"

bwoateng Posted on 7/7 14:35
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I like the fella. In interviews i've heard in the past he comes across very articulate(sp) and very bright, with a passion to write songs and poetry.

Lets hope he talks about the music more than the drugs, couldn't care less if he is an addict.

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onetoomany Posted on 7/7 14:39
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So Andy from that can I assume that you don't like the Beatles, Pink Floyd or anyone else because they are drug takers, or is it OK to forget about it when you like their music. If truly you do have sound morals and dont listen to music written and performed by drug takers I will respect your views. However your CD collection must be toss!!!

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 14:41
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I could never be in his shoes because I would never stick a needle in my arm. They didn't decide to follow him for the hell of it. The man flips every time.
He is an arrogant, egomanical sh1_thouse who believes himself above the law and answerable to no-one.
Jonathan Ross has gone way down in my estimation. this "man" should not get primetime viewing.

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 14:47
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above the law ??


how did you come to that conclusion andy

mattfj Posted on 7/7 14:48
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You think he would let the paparazzi into his flat-you must be having a lend. If you read the earlier post, you will note that the photos were stolen from him.
If you watch Jonathon Ross tonight you will see that he his quite the opposite of arrogant and egomanical!!!

ospreyheights Posted on 7/7 14:49
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saw him being intetrviewed by kirsty wark recently it was babyshambolic, ms wark was embarrassed at him. the man isnt in the slightest interesting or insightful. he just looked and sounded like any other smackhead you have the misfortune of meeting. boring.

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 14:50
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Drug taking in music is a cancer. One that will probably (sadly) never be eradicated. Mainly because too many people romanticise it as being merely a character flaw. If I liked the guy's music I would buy it. For the music. But the argument you promote is double-edged because I am sure you would not buy Gary Glitter's next album regardless of the quality.
Perhaps in 20 years time after "clean" living and actually earning legend status he could be on Ross (or his replacement) and tell us all about his life. Sadly we have to listen now to the petty ramblings of a junkie no-mark bleating about being misunderstood.

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 14:52
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Splendid - I think it was his refusal to submit himself for questioning regarding drugs offences and the subsequent altercation with Police at his flat when they tried to effect an arrest. Yeah that's it.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 14:52
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If there is no drug taking in music, there is no good music. Like it or loath it, its fact.

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 14:53
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wow some very bitter people on here.

The guy is a musician who takes drugs, massive shock there.

Why he gets so much bad press i dont know, its his choice to lead his life how he wants.

The point here is he has an addiction and immediately he is SCUM.

Nice to see human compassion is alive and well.

moxzin Posted on 7/7 14:54
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Keep all your Stings and let us have our Dohertys.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 7/7 14:56
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Comparing Pete f__king Doherty to The Beatles, Pink, Floyd, Jim Morrison.......heard everything now.

As andy_pitkin states, see where he is and what standing he has in 20 years and then try a comparison.

A bloke, famous for his drug use, arrests, knobbing a druggie supermodel,.......oh, and he is rumoured to be a musician too.

Funny how everything that has happened to him is never his fault as well. One unlucky lad, eh?

wendymac Posted on 7/7 14:57
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what a sympathetic bunch you are,he is a drug addict for gods sake.i have seen drug addiction from close up and it is not pleasant,smack is one of the hardest drugs in the world to come off,give the guy a break.if you dont want to watch then dont,also he his still earning money himself, and not robbing your mother.

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 14:58
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I understand what are saying with the Glitter reference. But Pete Doherty isn't a rambling idiot like Johnny Rotten was, he has 12 A* grade GCSE's, 4 A grade A levels...un-fortunatley he got into drugs. I will be the first person to say I wish he would get off drugs as would my mates and people who like him as a musician. I really hope and believehe will, because then there is a chance the Libertines might reform and him and Carl can go backing to writing qulaity music. Now no matter what you say about him, the two Libertines albums are class and if it wasn't for them you wouldn't be listening to the likes of the Arctic Monkeys to give a 'radio friendly' indie band as an example.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 14:59
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heaton_mersey_boro is coming across as a stereotypical sun reader, reads what he does in the papers and forms an opinion on that rather than listening to the music first.

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 15:01
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"If there is no drug taking in music, there is no good music. Like it or loath it, its fact"

Or put another way - the reason there is no elephants in Middlesbrough is because we put Anti-elephant pellets down.

Music often leads to the drugs, not the other way round

ospreyheights Posted on 7/7 15:03
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fair enough wendy, but the man earns his living from being a professional celebrity smachead.

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 15:05
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osprey your talking garbage.

Hes not a celebrity and doesnt try to be one, hes a musician wether you rate him or not.

Its the tabloids that make him a celebrity, so if your unhappy about it tell em to write some proper news.

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 15:05
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not too sure if I agree with that, I'm sue that a lot of the "classics" couldn't have been written stone cold sober with a nice cup tea?!

mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:06
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So which decent musicians/bands have not wrote albums under the influence of drugs then.............erm let me think..........Cliff Richard..........Sting.........hmmmm quite some list.......I think perhaps the only exception to prove the rule is The Smiths-Morrissey kicked out Andy Rourke for his heroin use.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 7/7 15:10
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"heaton_mersey_boro is coming across as a stereotypical sun reader"



That is one thing I have never been called! You could not be any further from the truth fella. Funny though.

You don't know me, so don't make silly wild assumptions.

For the record, I thought some of the Libertines stuff was pretty good, some of it distinctly average, a lot of it was hyped and over rated.

Babyshambles, IMO, is complete shyte. And if it was'nt for "god-status Doherty" they would not even have a record deal. Personally thought Carl Barat(sp?) carried Doherty, and Dirty Pretty Things IMO confirms that IMO.

My opinions. Okay?

Tabloid journalists are tvvats at the best of times, but he hardly makes life difficult for them does he? A lot of what is written is very grey, and open to interpretation - one thing that is consistent is that, no matter what his anntics are (and frankly I could'nt give a shyet about what he does) the bloke is a junkie, smackhead and if he had not been so much in the public eye would be locked up by now.

Its okay to be a famous druggie, thats different; but if he was robbing houses, stealing from old ladies etc - would you still have the same opinion?

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 15:10
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But I can guarantee none of them could be written in a drug induced coma.

mickbrown Posted on 7/7 15:14
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"If there is no drug taking in music, there is no good music. Like it or loath it, its fact."

Now I don't care about the bloke, what he does to himself or his music, but the above statement is a right old crockofshit.

ospreyheights Posted on 7/7 15:15
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splendid, are you saying that pete doherty isnt part of the tabloid game surely not hes not not that clever nor manipulative enough. sorry mate but im not that naive, by the way i have been revisting another big time drug user jim morrison lately, his music stands on its own merit head and shoulders above anything doherty has done, doherty should let his music do some taking instead of hawking his asss around chat shows.

MrEko Posted on 7/7 15:16
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Pete Doherty on BBC1

Or


Mischa Barton on Channel 4



Ill pick Barton

mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:17
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heaton_mersey_boro-my apologies fella, after reading your last post I fear I may have been jumping to conclusions!!!
I think that because of his 'celebrity' status and from the royalties from his music he does not need to steal from old ladies to fund his drug habit, however, even if he did I would probably still buy his music because I like it.

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 15:18
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Matt - your illusion that all "good" music is written under the influence of drugs displays a special mentality. You have raised the bar for cretins.
I am concerned about your Sting phobia also. No.1 albums happen because people like his music and buy it. Whether you or I do, or not, is irrelevant. It's good to someone. Just as Doherty's is.
And your attempt to dismiss Splendid's opinion by "accusing" him of reading the Sun is pathetic. How do you know the tabloids unjustly brand Doherty if you don't read them ? Surely your opinion is not generated by someone else

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 15:19
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im saying that the intrusions and press he gets from the media is obviously because of his lifestyle but i dont for one second think he enjoys the treatment he recieves.

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 15:20
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andy didnt that crazy frog song get to number 1 ???!!!!


also it wasnt my opinion he was talking about, i think.

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mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:20
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mickbrown-so which albums have not been written under the influence????

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 15:21
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Heaton_mersey. I don;t think Carl carried Pete at all, Pete wrote nearly all the lyrics, and yes Carl is a far better guitarist, but thats what song partners are about. I don;t think Morrissey was too shi_t hot on the guitar.
So where do you base your opinion on Carl having to carry Pete when they were in the Libs??

mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:23
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Part of the reason I no longer buy tabloids is because of the drivel they print.
And as I said earlier-which albums have not been written under the influence???

Cockney_Barra_Boy Posted on 7/7 15:25
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The thing that gets me, is that PD is nothing more than a common smackhead. No better tan the smackhead that live in doorways, robbing people and generally making England a shythole.

The fact that he was in a band gives people this illusion that he's sepcial and should be treated differently.

I wouldn't pi$$ on him if he was on fire....he probably set light to himself.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:29
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He is different to those living in the shop doorways and robbing people though because of his musical talents he is in the fortunate/unfortunate position whereby he does not need to rob people to fund his habit.

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 15:30
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How should he be treated CBB ?

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 7/7 15:30
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matt - apology accepted

Still found your original quote funny though.

What I meant to say in my last paragraph was that if Doherty was just your everday run of the mill, non famous, junkie scum would you have the same opinions on him? Obviously does'nt have to stoop to this as he has money........for now.

Think we will have to agree to disagree on this one!

Marlon_D Posted on 7/7 15:35
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Who else is on ?

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 15:36
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Heaton_mersey

The question you pose makes no sense though, because obviously no one has high opinions on junkies, robbign old ladies for their next hit. So of course if he didnt make music no one ever hear about it. But (no I assume your a Beatles fan, appologies if not) would you still have the same opinion of John lennon if he wasn;t a brilliant song writer? the question really doesn;t make sense. Also Pete has been off the smack now for over 4 months since he got the court order for regualr tests, which I believe he hasn;t failed once. I understandwhere you ae comign from, you don;t like the bloke and that's fine, your opinion, my grudge is with the people who make that decison on the back of what the tabloids write. Whicj was why i started this thread to see if peole would make their own opinions on the lad, by watching him on the telly tonight?

mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:41
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Totally agree with you on that one heaton_mersey_boro, but yep, we are going to agree to disagree!!

I still note that nobody has come up with an album that has not been written under the influence.....(with the exception of The Smiths [as stated previously])......anyone going to prove me wrong???!!!

japsterboro Posted on 7/7 15:43
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Once a baghead, always a baghead. Waster of the highest order ...

mickbrown Posted on 7/7 15:47
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mattfj - and there has been a lot of crap albums recorded under the influence. So we take your arguement to its logical conclusion.

"If there is no drug taking in music, there are no bad albums"

They were good albums because they were good albums not because they were "smacked up to their tits on cecil"

mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:47
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Thanks for that reasoned and intelligent argument japsterboro, have you left MENSA early this afternoon???

boroboy75 Posted on 7/7 15:48
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What a waster, what a fucqing waster

ospreyheights Posted on 7/7 15:51
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i will watch tonites interview to see if there is anything better than the drivel he spouted to kirsty wark, i hope so.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 7/7 15:51
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onetoomany -

I don't dislike Pete Doherty.

I simply find him, as a junkie, a complete and utter waste of space with a media circus following him around for an easy story. It does'nt even have to be true, as long as it sells papers.

As for all of the acclaim to him being some sort of musical genius...........do me a favour. If he was consistently producing good stuff over a period of time, then fair enough. But Babyshambles has been what - 2, 3 years tops? And IMO 99% of it is terrible. And as I stated previously if it was'nt Doherty fronting this group, then they would'nt get a record deal in a million years.

Carl Barat, IMO, has proved to be the more accomplished / more talented musician due to Dirty Pretty Things. But this is simply my opinion. Others will think they are cack, and fair do's, each to their own.

Tabloid journalists are scum, but Doherty is an easy target. I would find it extremelly funny if he did clean up his act, and gave them absolutely f__k all to write about him. But they would probably make stuff up anyhow.

My regarding him being a junkie was, is it okay for him to be a famous junkie - is that socially acceptable? In my opinion it is not.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 15:51
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mickbrown; but you still havnt answered the question of which ones were written sober????

andy_pitkin Posted on 7/7 15:51
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Guys its been a blast and a good debate. What would the world be like if we all thought the same (Newcastle !!), however, I have to leave work now.
I am not in the same league as PD so i am going home to pop some junior dispirin, write a dirty limerick and nail Linda Lusardi.

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 15:58
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Fair do's Heaton_boro. Your obviously a clever bloke and I appllogise if I patronised you in anyway, and opinions are just that opinions, I see where you are coming from and I hope you can see where myself and the other 'pro' Doherty posters are coming from about him being judged by the tabloids. As yu say earlier we sahll agree to disagree?

mickbrown Posted on 7/7 15:58
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mattfj - you've just given us The Smiths - some of the finest albums going.

So you actually think that because this bloke is a smackhead, he's a good musician? Take the smack of him he becomes shyte does he?

Azedarac Posted on 7/7 15:59
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Pete Doherty doesn't really register on my radar. I haven't followed his exploits in the tabloids, and what I've heard of his music hasn't really interested me.

Things I know about Pete Doherty:

-He was in a band called the Libertines that it is illegal to dislike for some reason.

-He put in one of the worst vocal performances ever on Live 8. Apparently this was down to jealous people who sabotaged his microphone, it was nothing to do with him being off his tits.

-He is the latest in a line of musicians who's influence vastly outweighs their output, because all the kids love a "rebel".

-Once he burns out and dies young a generation of kids will hero worship him even more, and treat everything he did as genius (see Cobain, K for the template).

Marlon_D Posted on 7/7 15:59
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Too many words wasted over one of life's tvvats.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:02
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But you will note that I have said that they are the exception to prove the rule. Although saying that though Andy Rourke was a heroin addict and when Morrissey found out he kicked him out of the band.......
And why would I think that because he takes heroin he is a good musician, he is a good musician because of his song writing ability and his partnership working well with the guitar skills of Carl Barat.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:04
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Off out now so am going to have to sign off.

mickbrown Posted on 7/7 16:05
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You've just contradicted yourself.

*runs round office in a Marco Tardelli stylee

Azedarac Posted on 7/7 16:07
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How do you know which albums were written or recorded without the influence of drink or drugs. Do they put it on the record sleeve?

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:08
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How have I??? Read my earlier posts 1st....

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:11
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Azedarac-are you being serious???!!! Do you really think that question warrants a response???

mickbrown Posted on 7/7 16:11
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Got to be off tits to make good music, blah, blah, blah.

Your man would still make good music if he wasn't of his tits, blah, blah, blah

Something like that

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mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:12
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Another MENSA candidate amongst us.

japsterboro Posted on 7/7 16:13
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mattfj - WTF has MENSA got to do with my comment? So my intellect must be of a certain standard to have an opinion does it?

Grow up FFS, he is nothing but a waster regardless of his talent, for which you are clearly 'blinded' by.

Also see 'Gazza' ... was talented, but is a true waster in the same catagory.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:15
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Far from it, there was hardly any reasoning behind your statement though was what I was implying!

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:16
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A wasted talent or a talented waster??? Both me thinks!!!

mickbrown Posted on 7/7 16:17
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Please explain to me then, as I must be numb.

How exactly have you not contradicted yourself?

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Azedarac Posted on 7/7 16:18
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Mattfj - yes I am being serious. You ASSUME most music is made under the influence of drugs, but what is that assumption based on? I don't doubt a lot of musicians take drugs. I bet there's a fair few out there who don't too.

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence about music being recorded under the influence because it makes for an interesting interview. You're never going to get an interview in NME that says "so you recorded this album without taking any drugs, that must have been interesting, tell us all about it".

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:19
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By stating that the Smiths are the exception to prove the rule that all talented musicians have at some point in their lives been drug takers. Other than the material they have written, there are no other bands that have produced material that has been produced under the influence of drink and drugs-its fact!

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:21
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Azedarac-most of them write about it in their lyrics!!!!! Most of them admit it too.

mattfj Posted on 7/7 16:23
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My apologies my previous post was meant to read "By stating that the Smiths are the exception to prove the rule that all talented musicians have at some point in their lives been drug takers. Other than the material they have written, there are no other bands that have produced material that has not been produced under the influence of drink and drugs-its fact!"

mickbrown Posted on 7/7 16:23
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

That's a different thing.

You said without drugs there is no good music.

Now you are saying that the people who make good music will probably use drugs.

Azedarac Posted on 7/7 16:29
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Have I slipped into the Twilight Zone here? There's plenty of good records that aren't about drugs.

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 16:41
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drugs are bad.

or is it people, i get confused.

rick4974 Posted on 7/7 16:46
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

pete doherty is a winker. full on scumbag. personally i wish he would overdose on his beloved smack and all his followers suffer the same fate. the way he is branded a GENIUS is wrong. Kurt Cobain was a genius, paul mcartney and the boys were, jimi hendrix was, elvis, jagger and sinatra were more to music than pete doherty will ever be. he is a disgrace to english music and music its self.

smigga Posted on 7/7 16:49
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Don't know what the debate is anyway! Anyone watching Jonathan Woss is having a mare because they will be mising the Friday Night Project on Channel 4! Best programme on the box IMO!

yeah_man Posted on 7/7 16:51
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

"Drug taking in music is a cancer"

Stupid.

If there were no drugs, there'd be no I Am The Walrus.

I've some cracking songs when high on Benylin.

onetoomany Posted on 7/7 16:52
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Really Rick.......and without cheating and suing google, name me 5 songs from Pete Doherty, vecause you must know so much about him to base your strong opinions on.

yeah_man Posted on 7/7 16:54
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

"He put in one of the worst vocal performances ever on Live 8"

If only he'd put in a better performance. World poverty would have been extinct. Oh man.

yeah_man Posted on 7/7 16:59
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

How many of the people who slag him off for being a druggy, have taken drugs themselves? Double standards.

If he's a scumbag for taking drugs then so are the vast majority of movie stars, footballers, TV personalities, etc, etc.

Even Dev off Coronation Street is partial to the odd line.

He does drugs. It doesn't make him a bad person. Get over it.

rick4974 Posted on 7/7 17:16
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

WELL I CAN SAFELY SAY I HAVE NEVER DONE DRUGS.

likely lads? fick forever? cant stand me now? and something about becoming king.
thats all i know coz they have been asked in my dj'ing life. the only times i have ever heard them is when some1 has asked for a song to be played or for someone to sing a song on karaoke. infact 3 weeks ago i had a total pond life lad getting up on the karaoke singing a libertines song and swearing while on instrumental breaks and cofessing how PETE DOHERTY is FICKING KING and every1 should go get smacked off their faces. if thats a pete doherty fan, you can shove it.

rick4974 Posted on 7/7 17:20
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speaking off smackhead doherty, did anybody see his ex bummer in crime, CARL BARRAT, on soccer am a few weeks ago? where he came on the show ficked out of his tiny mind and was spitting milk all over people. even noel gallagher look ashamed to be sat near them. lovejoy and hels bells were disgusted too. they are all the same, stupid little boys who have no ficking talent between them all.

jayno Posted on 7/7 17:21
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ricky you ever been pissed?pissheads can be just as bad as druggies.

rick4974 Posted on 7/7 17:22
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oh plenty of times. the thing is were they just pissed? for me, i doubt it very much

Azedarac Posted on 7/7 17:29
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I wasn't that fussed about the drugs thing until I found out that Dev off Coronation St is apparently partial to the odd line. It seems the cast of Grange Hill were right - "JUST SAY NO!".

baghdadboro Posted on 7/7 17:33
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IMO the thing that makes PB a scumbag is wot he did to the unconscious lass in his flat... so he takes drugs (as some famous people do)its wot he does wen he's on drugs that sets him apart from other celebs...

as for basing my opinion on him because of wot i've read in the tabloids, wot a complete crock of sh-t, like everyone in the english speaking world i get my information from three sources, newspapers, tv and radio... wot PB done was widely broadcast on all three...

i get my info from the above three but make my opinions based on a even balance, both sides of the story, which won't be on the JR show... he's a light entertainer and PB will be on to promote himself and entertain, his sordid past will be either ignored or brushed over...

as for his music... there's plenty of bands that do it much better...

foggonsfplandiet Posted on 7/7 17:39
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Why do the BBC give airtime to this smackheaded prik?

SplendidStuff Posted on 7/7 18:04
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of course the media, including radio, tv and newspapers get it spot on everytime dont they, i mean without them how would we ever make our minds up about topics for debate.

Have a word with yourself.

rick4974 Posted on 7/7 18:46
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

our current era of life is filled with drugs, prostitutes and violence. the problem is, drugs are taking over. there are shyte loads of dealers around now and every pub i work in there are people buying,selling and using drugs but what can we do about it.
1 pub which i aint naming, has 3,4,5 lads together in the same cubical snorting away, the lasses are at it, they do coke outside in the car parks, so it aint just dyckhead doherty but he does it without a care in the world. he gets caught, then what does he do, goes straight back to it. he doesnt deserve a life. he is scum, pure scum

yeah_man Posted on 7/7 19:33
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comin up comin up comin up - its decadence.

Cobain_94 Posted on 7/7 21:43
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I'm a fan of his music, The Libertines were a great band imo, The Babyshambles album was a good listen and The Libertines at the Arena in 2004 were superb.

What I can't stand is the rock n roll cliche he's become, if he's making the effort to get off the drugs for good then all the better. Maybe he can then start making the most of his talent.

skiprat Posted on 7/7 22:44
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

This may have already been said as I've not trawled through all of this, but why is it that the fact that he can knock out a tune or two be some reason to basically ignore the fact that he's a dirty junkie smackhead?

If he was exactly the same, but without his guitar and walking through Middlesbrough town centre, as a lot of drug addicts do, then no-one would give two hoots about him.

He's a filthy rat and why isn't he in jail? He's been arrested for assault, had pictures published of him taking drugs and more trouble, but yet the authorities seem to leave him be to skip court appearances etc.

Disgrace. Look at the clip of him on BBC now, but because he can sing a tune then I suppose it's ok?

yeah_man Posted on 7/7 22:53
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its the 'romantic poet' effect. in them days it was opium.

teflondon Posted on 7/7 23:15
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changed my mind

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boro_in_lincoln Posted on 8/7 0:01
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The guy's a legend.

onthemap Posted on 8/7 1:16
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Onetoomany - as a father (and i trust you are aswell).
If my daughter brought home any of the scum you give as examples of decency , i would kick them back to the ditch they call home.

DrBuck Posted on 8/7 14:46
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Re. The Smiths. I think O'Rourke was booted out was the worry that the music was no longer a priority to him, the drugs had taken that place.

fluteloop Posted on 8/7 15:46
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Have to agree with what Cobain said. I liked the libs first albums, the second was ok but that gig in the arena was something else. Anyway he has become a walking cliche but i guess that's what the kids like always have and probably always will like.

WeDontHitScarfers Posted on 8/7 15:53
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I hope his appearance on Woss' show last night proves to all the knuckle dragging sunreaders on this board what an intelligent and misunderstood boy he is.

andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 16:14
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

His drug taking antics and general arsey behaviour has also been recorded in every other tabloid and also made the front pages of the Guardian, Telegraph, Independent and The Times.
Please amend your pathetic statement to thus include all newspaper readers as I am sure you would not want to be accused of stereotyping as you seem desperate to come across as far too intelligent to be influenced by the media.

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 16:14
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

misunderstood, plain and simple, he is smackhead scumbag. its just a shame his mam didnt kill him at birth. here is to him 1 day doing himself in.

the_j Posted on 8/7 16:16
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Just a hypothetical question here, aimed at those calling Doherty a smackhead pri*k/scumbag/bla bla etc. Regardless of musical ability, rockstar celebrity status etc, imagine sitting down with your partner (or someone) to watch TV. A Panaroma special is on. It's about drug addiction, and being interviewed is a 20 year old girl. She was a star at school, top of her class every year and was destined for great things. However, she got involved with the wrong people and started taking heroin. For two years she was addicted. She stole from her friends, she was moody, she lied, she cheated; she was a mess. She nearly died. Yet, she is being interviewed because she has been completely clean for 6 months. In the interview she says how bad it really was, how hard she had to fight to stay clean, and she passionately urges young people everywhere to beware of drugs, to never fall into the same trap as she did, to be careful and value yourself and your life. She speaks articulately and comes across well. Quite a few of these sort of things are on TV every now and then. I take it all the time they are on and you see them you get angry and say things to your partner/whoever like 'why the f*** are the BBC wasting time and tax payers money showing things like this little scumbag bitch, she's a f***ing disgrace. She should be strung up. How dare the BBC show this. They should be ashamed of themselves. Smackhead slag'?

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 16:27
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yeh. i never watched the show lastnight as pete doherty is not worth the 10minutes of interview time. but i can imagine he put across that he has been trying to kick for so long, he has been clean for so long, he was pressured in to it blah blah blah, he wasnt allowed to kick due to pressure, he had a bad childhood. he could have said no, he didnt have a gun put to his head everytime he shot up, his family werent at risk if he didnt shoot up so he didnt have to inject himself. he could have got help anytime but he never, until he got caught. then he goes to court, the court let him go to rehab and within hours/days he is back on it. he is caught with kate moss doing smack, he gets away with it. he is on a plane and a needle is found after he comes out of the toilet.he asaults photographers. he is just like the smackheads that walk the streets in middlesbrough and he doesnt care. the world will be a nicer place without the likes of pete doherty.

WeDontHitScarfers Posted on 8/7 16:29
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Last night proved that he is more than 'Smackhead scum' and that he actually has some talent. That song he sang was beautiful and suggests that he is truly on his way back to being on top form just as he was in the Libertines.

His addiction is unfortunate and to assume that youngsters like him because of this proves you to be ignorant. He is actually a very talented musician. I imagine most of you knee-jerk reactionaries haven't actually heard his music just read the usual articles in your tabloids whilst on your break from whatever menial job you do.

swordtrombonefish Posted on 8/7 16:34
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

"I imagine most of you knee-jerk reactionaries haven't actually heard his music just read the usual articles in your tabloids whilst on your break from whatever menial job you do."

Fresh bait....

andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 16:38
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

His musical talent is debatable. As is everybody's musical talent as it is in the "ears" of the beholder.

Your arrogance is a matter of fact.
Menial jobs still need doing. To belittle the people who do them is demonstrating a lack of compassion not witnessed since 1945.
Rick - you are wrong, PD is not the one who should consider taking his own life, WDHS should.

the_j Posted on 8/7 16:40
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Oh, and on another note, regardless of anyone's stances on drugs and addictions, it's patronising to assume that I, or anyone else, only like the Libertines because 'he's a rebel' and that 'it's the sort of thing's kids have liked and always will like.' I'd like to think I was mature and intelligent enough to appreciate music on its own merits.

I like The Libertines because I like the music and the lyrics, not because I'm idiotic enough to be influenced by the live fast die young cliches spouted by the media. And for people to (wrongly) assume and belittle why I like the particular music I like is condescending and offensive.

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 16:45
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WHDS? is that some new furniture shop in skippers lane?
i have heard a few of libertines/baby shambles songs and i aint impressed. every1 has their own taste in music and pete dohertys music isnt mine. i aint saying he isnt talented, i am saying he is scum and he doesnt deserve to be in the limelght while he has these ongoing situations with his private life. him being/becoming a millionaire is so wrong, ok people have personal problems but his are usually self-inflicted and he doesnt show any remorse, he just carries on doing what he does best, making music and abusing drugs.

the_j Posted on 8/7 16:49
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

.....apart from the fact the police have been testing him for drugs twice a week for the last 5 months and he hasn't failed one test.

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 16:51
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do u really trust the police? i dont.

andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 16:52
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Maybe if they weren't wasting their time testing him they could find which junkie scumbag burgaled my garage and put him/her/it in "a program".

WeDontHitScarfers Posted on 8/7 16:52
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Drug addiction is an ILLNESS. Suffering from it doesn't make you 'scum'.

the_j Posted on 8/7 16:53
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

So you don't trust the Police or the Courts but you trust the journalists and the media?

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andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 16:53
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Ending up with an addiction is an ILLNESS. T

Taking them for the first time is a LIFESTYLE CHOICE.

WeDontHitScarfers Posted on 8/7 16:57
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

He made a mistake, and he's dealing with the connsequences and making good progress with it at that. He's been clean for the last 6 months, and on the show last night was very quick to clear up the myth that drug taking makes you a better musician so he's hardly glorifying it.

Good on yer Pete, here's to another great album on its way hopefully.

glippy Posted on 8/7 16:57
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It's nice to have a truly dangerous rock star who is seen as a threat by the establishment. This is what music used to be like before the corporate lackies that pass themselves off as bands came along. There was a time when the Beatles, Stones were seen as a threat to society. Even the Pistols were banned by local councils (hence the Acne Rabble tour). Thank God for Doherty, Liam Gallagher.

craig_pancrack Posted on 8/7 16:58
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Heroin chic cliche for the now generation too young to remember Keith Richards or Johnny Thunders. He's a pretentious little twerp who deserves what he gets and Jonathan Ross is a git for exploiting it.

bodger69 Posted on 8/7 16:59
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

PD music is ok alot better when he was a star in the libertines. But i do not wish to listen to his music after one specific incident. a couple of months ago a young girl ( not sure if she was a heroin addict or no)was completely unconcious at a party, our very own superstar PD went over to her and injected that junk into her whilst she was out of it. this could be your daughter/sister, how would his most devoted fans feel then. THE MAN IS SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 17:02
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

fao the_j, i dont read the media rags, and i dont watch the news(if i can help it) so no i dont trust media or journalists. to be honest i dont even read the gazette, i look at the back page to see whats going on and thats it.

WeDontHitScarfers Posted on 8/7 17:03
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

He was actually taking that needle OUT of her arm, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story eh?

andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 17:03
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Last statement on the matter ... drug taking should not be glorified and people should be celebrated for their talents not the ability to stick a needle in their arm.

But to try and put this man in the same bracket as Beatles Stones and even Oasis beggars belief.

I would equate it with comparing the acting skills of Ross Kemp and Al Pacino.

the_j Posted on 8/7 17:03
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Wow. You actually got all your information straight from Pete himself then. Go you.


And the comparisons are not in their talent or music, it's highlighting the hypocritical nature of people who loved the Beatles' (etc) music regardless of their drug taking but think other people who do the same with The Libertines are idiots.

--- Post edited by the_j on 8/7 17:05 ---

bodger69 Posted on 8/7 17:06
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

THE _J IM WITH YOU, WE DONT HIT SCARFERS MUST OF BEEN AND THAT PARTY THEN EH?

andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 17:06
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I know I have made my last statement but .... how do you know he was taking it OUT ? Because a smacked up popstar said that's what he was doing ?
Barrymore can't swim either.

BoroMutt Posted on 8/7 17:08
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Well I watched the interview on Ross' show last night and I have to say that he came across very well. He's been in a dark place but he is clean and insists that he will stay that way. Far from glorifying the "heroin chic" culture it should serve as a warning to anyone of the dangers of even dabbling in drugs. And I recall some pillox on here posting recently "would you try H?" as though it would be "cool". Ask Pete if he could go back and not take it for the first time?

I also like the song that he performed and I hope that he gets well really soon. As for wasting time on scum. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Seems a decent rule to live by regardless of who said it first eh?

Pete, I misjudged you, sorry. (I don't suppose he's reading but you know what I mean)

WeDontHitScarfers Posted on 8/7 17:10
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

As well as several witnesses, but thats not what you want to hear is it?

the_j Posted on 8/7 17:10
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

And how do you know he was putting it in? because a sensationalist journalist told you so to sell papers?

bodger, I have no idea what that statement means?

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andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 17:11
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

At stoning Jesus says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Stone flies through air and strikes victim
Jesus groans "Oh Mother" !!!!

bodger69 Posted on 8/7 17:12
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

THE PROOF IS IN THE PICTURE

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 17:12
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

i remember him a few weeks ago asking who has tried smack and whats it like coz he was curious. does any1 know if that fool managed to push his vein or not. i seem to remeber a few saying they would but when they were about dead. that lad seemed very interested to find out what it felt like. i wonder eh.

bodger69 Posted on 8/7 17:13
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

WHO WAS THAT SORRY RICK YOU LOST ME MATE?

andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 17:14
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I would agree the photo proves nothing one way or the other.

All these witnesses at a Heroin party.

They sound like a fine upstanding bunch. Was it to celebrate joining the Young Conservatives.
I hope someone called an ambulance.

WeDontHitScarfers Posted on 8/7 17:18
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

'I would agree the photo proves nothing one way or the other.'


So lets just assume the worst then shall we?

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 17:21
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i cant remeber who it was. i'll see if i can find the link to it.

andy_pitkin Posted on 8/7 17:22
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

"Pete .. Pete .. Pete .. this girl has OD'd and the needles still in her arm !!!"

"Oh my God !! Quick ...get the camera"

I rest my case.

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 17:28
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Would you try smack? yeah_man

rick4974 Posted on 8/7 17:29
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

thats the post bodger69.
Would you try smack? post by yeah_man

grantus Posted on 8/7 17:43
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Two things if you will.

1.Dont believe everything you see in the papers. I dont know what the full story was with the girl and the needle, however, the worse story sells papers. By believing it because the paper said it doesn't make you insightful nor clever. Neither does defending something that you dont know either.

Only the people at the party actually know what happened and they've all apparently defended Doherty. Whether they are telling the truth or not is depatable, but thats all the info you have.

Not enough to convict I'd say. Innocent then?

2. Dont trust the Police in this matter either. They haven't recovered since they lost Sting and are probably just after a new lead singer.

--- Post edited by grantus on 8/7 17:49 ---

TheBoroBoss61 Posted on 8/7 21:02
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Born to Run was written and recorded without the aid of Drugs and thats a Brilliant Album.

yeah_man Posted on 8/7 22:01
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I do smack all the time.

bwoateng Posted on 10/7 15:46
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

anybody watch it then?

boroboy75 Posted on 10/7 15:48
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I saw it in the end.
I thought he appeared to be on something, and the song he did was utter gash.

SplendidStuff Posted on 10/7 15:51
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

utter gash you say, what was wrong with it ?

I thought it was a great song.

Marlon_D Posted on 10/7 15:51
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

The bloke is an absolute cocknose.

bwoateng Posted on 10/7 15:54
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I thought he came across well really, he is obviously on something because he is an addict but he was in a reasonable state of mind and he seemed witty and relax after some initial nerves.

He done will with the song too. Boroboy is just a miserable git!

skiprat Posted on 10/7 16:07
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

What's the difference between Doherty and the lads that sit inside the walkway leading upto the Dundas arcade strumming on his guitar?

People will quite happily call those lads scum, but yet Doherty is supposedly some sort of musical god we should all give a break?

Bollox.

bwoateng Posted on 10/7 16:10
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

three top twenty albums??

T4Tomo Posted on 10/7 16:16
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I thought he came across as as a drugged up paranoid junkie who pretty much f**ked himself up via his choice of lifestyle.

boroboy75 Posted on 10/7 16:27
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Looking for sympathy when saying he was 'exiled' from the Libertines.
Didn't mention why he was 'exiled' though, the flithy, burgling junkie tvvat.

onetoomany Posted on 20/8 16:57
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Hero!!

rick4974 Posted on 20/8 17:12
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

one 2 many, who are you refering to as "hero". is it to a poster or is it a reference to "pete doherty".
if its towards the latter, SHUT UP!

Bukowski_MFC Posted on 20/8 17:22
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

Is a hero a bloke who fritters away his money on feeding his addictions when it should be used to feed his son? Excuse me if I find his behaviour not in the slightest bit heroic. He's a self-absorbed emotionally immature halfwit.

rick4974 Posted on 20/8 17:34
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

well said buk!

finny Posted on 20/8 19:04
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I think his music is damned good (in the main. Babyshambles album has depth and variety (Dirty Pretty Thinks IMHO are one dimensional - good, but one dimensional)
I saw the Kirsty Wark interview and the Woss interview and...
I think he is fooked up but trying to get 'straight'
I think it is awfully sad that so many people 'hate' him.
Hatred, in my opnion, should be reserved for the most severe people in life. Heroin addicts, imho, shouldn't fall into that category.
I think too many people want to see 'the bad' in him therefore believe everything they read.
Three things -
1. He says he is ashamed of how he has turned out
2. He says he is at his least creative under the influence therefore does not glorify his habit
3. He is tested weekly to ensure levels are decreasing in his body - he appears to be trying.

It may be interesting to pick up The Times tomorrow to read his mother's version.

mattfj Posted on 30/8 13:57
re: Pete Doherty on Johnathan Ross tonight

I think misunderstanding shadows his career as a writer and artist and it will be down to later generations to recognize his importance (with the exceptions of those who already do [musically that is]).