| DrBuck Posted on 17/7 18:31 | |
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JUst about every morning something happens to make me late for work. It's only by a minute or two and no-one ever asks me why I'm late, but I have been told that my boss is going to talk to me about it and it may go further! I can't see what the problem is myself as I give 100% and occasionally work through my breaks. But people who I work with seem to have a major problem, making sarcastic remarks and the like. It's as if I'm alesser person because of it. So how do I sort it out, apart from the obvious, because I could be on time for weeks and then as soon as I'm late again - that is the time everyone will focus on. Where do I stand legally, and morally too I suppose? | |
| agibbo Posted on 17/7 18:32 | |
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not a chance, id sack u | |
| MontagueWithnail Posted on 17/7 18:36 | |
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If I was you, I would get up a bit earlier , get to work a bit earlier, have a cuppa or whatever before you start. And just prove them wrong. | |
| RedWurzel Posted on 17/7 18:42 | |
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Problems can happen, because boss may think you are taking liberties and one thing leads to another. Also the boos may dee it as a front of their power if they are insecure. It sets a bad example to others who may not work as hard as you. My advice - apologise to your boss and say you will work over at x time and you will do all you can to avoid it in future. Tell you work mates you are doing a little extra to make up. Your Boss could give you a taking to, second time a verbal warning, third time a written warning. In theory he/she can go straight to verbal warning if they so which. That why its best to get in first to show some remorse. | |
| holgate_rochey Posted on 17/7 18:43 | |
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just slap whoever makes the next sarcy remark to you. Also be on time. | |
| sperks Posted on 17/7 18:57 | |
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Depends on the job really. If your working in a services industry and your work mates are having to answer calls while you swan in, then you need to step up. If you have your own schedule, then it's pure pettiness on your coworkers side and if your boss can't handle it (working with you to appease office moral) then you need to consider how much you like this job. All in all, getting into the office early is not a bad thing if you're interested in having a career behond what you're doing now. | |
| swordtrombonefish Posted on 17/7 18:59 | |
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Go when you feel like it, leave when you've had enough. If they don't like it, tell them you want a rise. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 17/7 19:18 | |
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Brilliant, sensible answers all round, good advice from everyone. Cheers. I must admit that it does irk me more than a little that my boss swans in whenever he likes, goes to the gym, visits friends and family and so on. I've been trying to get to work on time for all my working life though and i can't manage it. We're talking twenty odd years here! Perhaps I'm beyond hope? | |
| big_galoot Posted on 17/7 19:30 | |
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Start your own business,then personally b**tf**k anyone who turns in 2 minutes late! | |
| swordtrombonefish Posted on 17/7 19:48 | |
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I am deadly serious mate. I have made a point of making my own rules wherever I work, when the shyt hit's the fan they KNOW they can count on me at any time day or night. For that privilege they pay me what IO think I am worth and I work longer or shorter days when the mood takes me. Worked 6 hours today and probably will all week in this weather. | |
| PhillyMac Posted on 17/7 20:22 | |
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"I must admit that it does irk me more than a little that my boss swans in whenever he likes, goes to the gym, visits friends and family and so on." Irrelevant, unfortunately. "I've been trying to get to work on time for all my working life though and i can't manage it." The problem is that the pain involved in being on time is lesser than the pain involved dealing with the consequences. You're just not prioritising it high enough. | |
| Nedkat Posted on 17/7 20:34 | |
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I'm a bit of a plonker when it comes to punctuality, to the point where I get me rankles risen when someone turns up late, and me rankles rise even further if they're a repeat offender. Being late is disrespectful, and should be avoided at all costs. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 17/7 20:38 | |
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"I must admit that it does irk me more than a little that my boss swans in whenever he likes, goes to the gym, visits friends and family and so on." You can't blame your co-workers for being a little annoyed then. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 17/7 23:21 | |
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How is it irrelevant Philly? Surely a boss should lead by example? Swordfishtrombone, I think I may be a little more disposable than you though. How much do you earn? I would hazzard a guess that it is a little more than my six pound ninety and hour? I can very easily be replaced. | |
| swordtrombonefish Posted on 17/7 23:26 | |
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Sorry mate - not trying to be a smartarse and you are right to say that people are disposable. Hence my stance, I make them sweat it out when the boot is on the other foot. I am contracting now though so really it isn't relevant - but in permie jobs I always set out my stall to make it comfortable for me and not just them. I always say get yourself an education in something useful and work to be good in the chosen field, you do get respect for it, and an employer realises your value. | |
| enzo_scifo90 Posted on 17/7 23:27 | |
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Some one once told me that being late is just in discipline, if your only a minute or two late then set off earlier by a minute or two. Legally i don't know but they could go down the line that you aint working the hours that you signed for in your contract. Work shy | |
| DrBuck Posted on 17/7 23:41 | |
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Swordfish, what you say is so true and perceptive. I have found that maybe if your boss holds petty grudges and jealousies it doesn't help your situation. Also, it also helps if you work for an 'enlightened' company. Enzo, people have told me to set off earlier, does this mean that others only break down on the A66 at certain times or that JCB's travel in the middle lane of the A19 at designated times too? If I was to drive to work at ten o'clock it would take me approx. 8 mins. However, between 7.30 and 8.30 it takes me up to 40 mins. It's so effing frustrating it puts you in a bad frame of mind before you even get to work. | |
| swordtrombonefish Posted on 17/7 23:48 | |
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I know it does not help your case at this time, but the UK Govermnment is meeting companies in an effort to get an agreement on staggering working hours and working from home policies. The energy crisis means they havve to start taking action, the constant traffic jams are wasteful of time, energy and also create huge amounts of pollution. I reckon 40% or more could work from home if properly project managed - that is targets set and work accomplished. There has to be meetings etc, but the whole centralisation thing is dated, inefficient and as far as punctuality is concerned, a lottery unless you set off at a ridiculous time. Things have to change. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 17/7 23:51 | |
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If I set off for work 10 minutes earlier, it takes me 20 more minutes to get there. Work that one out! | |
| DrBuck Posted on 17/7 23:59 | |
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Neiltrodden, that's my point too, in a round about way. Swordfish, man, your experience is so different from mine. The company I work for is a multi million pound business doing work all over the country and it doesn't even have a website! It won't let me have my own p.c. login i.d. or e-mail account. It's too expensive. Computers are 'new fangled things'and not to be trusted. I'd better stop or I'll go off it soon... | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 0:02 | |
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Oh yeah, I work in an office without any windows! Can you imagine that, the heat in the summer, the cold in the winter, the adjusting to daylight when leaving work? Oh joy. | |
| Snipppettt Posted on 18/7 0:25 | |
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DrBuck had the same prob myself for years, it's a bad habit and hard to shake off. I would guess - it doesn't matter what time you start, you'll always be late. My advice is start from scratch tomorrow and it'll will prob take 3-4 months to shake off sarcastic comments and build a positive reputation. Simple steps that worked for me - get everything ready the night before and get a good nights sleep. That extra 10 minutes you need every morning, you can gain the night before! Also if you have time keeping probs - posting on a message board after midnight isn't that wise. Going to bed late was my prob cos you can't be a*sed on a morning and are always in a constant rush. More self-discipline - it's not easy though, took me ages to sort that problem out and now i've got a kid which makes it even harder! | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 7:52 | |
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Good advice, thanks. I feel I have so much to do outside of work that the only way I can do it is to stay up until one or two in the morning to fit it all in. Not good I know! | |
| grantus Posted on 18/7 7:59 | |
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Always found morning people and punctual people to be far more anal and generally much less craic than the rest. Get yourself a new boss. | |
| Boro_Gadgie Posted on 18/7 11:07 | |
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Dr Buck, put off the things you have to do on a night, just for the one night enabling you to get to bed a bit earlier. You'll get a good night's kip, get up earlier the next day and into work earlier. I used to get jibes from two or three colleagues about when I got into work. Thing is, we worked flexi-time, I work in York and due to not having a car park pass at the time, I had to rely on the Park and Ride system, which put 15-20 minutes on each journey. Can't say I was too enamoured with people who lived a lot closer and had car park passes having digs about me getting in around 9:15, especially one person who lived round the corner in comparison and was in only about 20-30 minutes ahead of me (sometimes only 5 or 10 minutes). I just couldn't be arsed biting. | |
| capitao Posted on 18/7 11:15 | |
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Drbuck. You need to show a bit more maturity. Its not meant as a dig but as good advice. Whilst you may get away with keeping your job in the short term you will be at the bottom of the pile for promotions and top of the pile when layoffs are required. An old saying " Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy wealthy and wise". | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 11:19 | |
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I have tried to turn it round and have a go at those who come in early but it doesn't seem to work as I am vastly outnumbered. And on top of that they seem unaturally proud and boastful of the fact that they do arrive early for work. I don't like to be too early and have been known to sit in my car and read the paper until a minute before I'm due to start. This could maybe seen as being provocative I suppose. I also hate the fact that all the clocks are at least 5 mins fast. One person even has his clock 10 mins fast. I asked him why and he said that he knew his clock was always 10 mins fast! He couldn't seem to understand that if it was the correct time then it would be the correct time!!! | |
| mickbrown Posted on 18/7 11:22 | |
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Set off for work earlier. Jesus, it ain't rocket science. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 11:36 | |
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Mick, a car broke down on the A19 and caused a tailback. Consequently I was late for work. If I had set off for work 10 mins earlier I would have missed it yes. However, what if that car had broken down 10 mins earlier, which sods law says it would have? | |
| Boro_Gadgie Posted on 18/7 11:38 | |
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Dr Buck, so even when you do arrive a early, you sit in the car reading the paper. You're not doing yourself any favours there. | |
| capitao Posted on 18/7 11:39 | |
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DrBuck You are using the well known " Scouse defence". ie "It wasn't my fault". Grow up or face the consequences. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 11:42 | |
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Boro Gadgie, I still arrive at my desk prepared for work at the correct time though. I have found that if I arrive in the office early I am expected to start work at that time. I do not get paid for doing that. I work to earn money. | |
| mickbrown Posted on 18/7 11:43 | |
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Can you blame the people you work with for having a problem with it? They manage to get in on time, yet you can't? You'd piss me off as well I'm afraid, but I'm a grumpy fecker. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 11:44 | |
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"I have tried to turn it round and have a go at those who come in early but it doesn't seem to work as I am vastly outnumbered" And vastly wrong too! The clocks are wrong, cars break down etc etc. None of it is your fault but everyone else seems to deal with it ok. What line of work are you in? | |
| Boro_Gadgie Posted on 18/7 11:46 | |
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Well it seems your colleagues are prepared to do a bit beyond the call of duty ie starting early. You've got a point, but just get in there and make yoursel a cuppa or summat. At least just being there will get them off your back. Maybe by arriving early, you'll have an idea what they get up to, e.g. still having their breakfast, which will give you ammunition next time they have a go at you. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 11:46 | |
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I work in a call centre, why? | |
| PhillyMac Posted on 18/7 11:49 | |
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Going back to my comment that it's irrelevant that your boss is not always in on time...yes, he should lead by example, but if he doesn't, he can still fire your ass. Sorry to pile on, but I hope you read this thread in its entirity and get the message. You still seem in denial. Another option: get a job where time-keeping isn't important. There are lots of them. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 11:52 | |
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I wish it was that easy Philly. I worked for ICI for 17 years and when I left I couldn't get a job for two years, hence the crap job I'm lumbered with now. I don't fancy packing it in and being out of work again. | |
| mickbrown Posted on 18/7 11:54 | |
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I'd sack you. You're beyond hope. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 12:13 | |
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Yeah, I think you're probably right Mick, I'll ask my boss to sack me when he has a 'little chat' with me later. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 12:24 | |
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If you work in a callcentre, you need to be able to take calls as soon as you start work. If you arrive 1 minute to, you will not be able to log-in quick enough. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 13:56 | |
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It's only my preference really but I really don't like talking on the phone, especially to people I don't know, who, to cap it all, are usually obnoxious t***s complaining about how they've been overcharged. Don't they realise that I/we can't do anything about it. I'd do away with all call centres, no-one likes dealing through them do they? | |
| Spoff_MFC Posted on 18/7 14:02 | |
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What kind of things make you late? | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 14:07 | |
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Queuing in traffic makes me late, nothing else. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 14:08 | |
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"It's only my preference really but I really don't like talking on the phone, especially to people I don't know" Nobody likes callcentres because they often speak to people who don't want to or can't talk to them. Leave your job! | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 14:12 | |
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What? And get paid fifty four quid a week dole money and spoil my fun annoying people? Ha, ha, ha... | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 14:13 | |
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You could always get another job you wind-up merchant! | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 14:16 | |
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It's not that easy though is it as I've already shown... | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 14:17 | |
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Getting jobs is easy. | |
| DrBuck Posted on 18/7 14:19 | |
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How? Not many people want to employ a stupid, old, call centre worker do they? | |
