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Bazooka_that_Viduka Posted on 18/7 9:49
QUEDRUE IN TALKS WITH FULHAM



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scoea Posted on 18/7 9:50
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It's no bad thing. His heart hasn't been in it for a while now.

fatharrywhite Posted on 18/7 9:51
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i'm sure someone will be on soon to blame mcclaren for it....

the_broken_fridge Posted on 18/7 9:51
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He's always been shiit anyway.

Boro_Owl Posted on 18/7 9:51
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He got it in 2 minutes faster than me

Big_Shot Posted on 18/7 9:52
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Its a shame but the lad wants away, so best off letting him move on now whilst we'll still get a fee for him.

ScarboroSmoggy Posted on 18/7 9:52
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He's already agreed terms.

Fuk him if he thinks Fulham is a good move as it isn't.

neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 9:53
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He's garbage. If he was playing footy in my back garden, I'd close the curtains etc etc

Unbelievable_Jeff Posted on 18/7 9:53
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What a career move!

scoea Posted on 18/7 9:54
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On his day one of the best left backs in the league but sadly he doesn't want to be here any more.

Rain_Wooney Posted on 18/7 9:54
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One of the best ball-playing left-backs I have seen in a Boro shirt in the past 10 years along with (dare I say it) Christian Ziege. Thanks Francky and good luck.

Does this mean we have to sign a left-back? Or are Pog and Taylor to be entrusted with Franck's place?

SuperBokSupper Posted on 18/7 9:55
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My mum will be proper gutted!

Unbelievable_Jeff Posted on 18/7 9:55
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Them head injuries last year look to have caused permanent damage.

Lucky_Alf Posted on 18/7 9:56
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A liability at times who isnt going to get better.

Nowhere near as good a footballer as Ziege (spit).

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 9:57
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Fulham is a very swanky place, maybe Mrs Q is having a say?

mufflar Posted on 18/7 9:59
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whats the fee?

the_broken_fridge Posted on 18/7 9:59
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fee? what do mean fee? you should know by now we never get fees for our players.

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zamboni80 Posted on 18/7 10:00
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Franck was settled here and quite happy to stay but apparentley he doesn't get on too well with mad dog and there respective Mrs's don't get on either. Shame really as I always thought he tried hs best even when he was having a sh1tter.

number_10 Posted on 18/7 10:01
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Wow, dosn't the Southgate reign just fill you with more confidence by the day?

scoea Posted on 18/7 10:03
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I'm with Alf about Ziege - Franck is not in his league.

neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 10:03
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"Wow, doesnt the Southgate reign just fill you with more confidence by the day?"

Oh FFS, stop being melodramatic. He's one player for god's sake. Do you want a player who doesn't want to be here? You saw how shte he was last year at times and that's what you get from a player who wants away. Good luck to him but let him go.

boroboy75 Posted on 18/7 10:03
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I know what you mean, number_10.

Trotsky4u Posted on 18/7 10:03
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He is desperate to play for France, so may think a London team will give him higher profile in France

Rain_Wooney Posted on 18/7 10:04
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I think he was rash at times and occasionally lost his concentration, but I was often impressed by him. Fulham isn't a bad move for FQ. He's quite the trendy type and I'm sure the lifestyle (king's road, chelsea and fulham) will suit him.

Rain_Wooney Posted on 18/7 10:04
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Maybe Steeeeeed will come our way?

mufflar Posted on 18/7 10:04
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there is obviously a good reason Southgate wants him out, we don't know what it is but it must be something major as he can be a good player.

Good on you Southgate...stick to your guns!

scoea Posted on 18/7 10:06
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Isn't it odd that McClaren had started to lose faith in him (and got all the blame) and now that Southgate seems to be willing to let him go it is his fault as well. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Franck has not been cloe to fit enough for the best part of a season and a half?

fatharrywhite Posted on 18/7 10:06
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"but apparentley he doesn't get on too well with mad dog and there respective Mrs's don't get on either."

that's a new one - a player leaving cos their wives dont get on!!! in other words, dont believe a word of it!

Sheringham and cole didnt get on at Man U yet they were professional enough to get on with things on the pitch and were still successful. maybe frank should take a leaf out of their book instead of spitting his dummy out when a bit of competition for his place arrives.

sad to see him go though cos he is without doubt the best left back at the club when he is on his game.

mufflar Posted on 18/7 10:07
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I predict a lot of games for Taylor...the next Roberto Carlos...

sasboro Posted on 18/7 10:09
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fickle boro fans again..not too long ago everyone on here were saying he should be called up for the french squad as there are no better french left backs than him

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BIG_BAD_BILL Posted on 18/7 10:10
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he wants to play for france (lol)

ive got more chance of playing for france and im very average

FFS

captain5 Posted on 18/7 10:10
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Taylor could be the new Ashley Cole or Graeme Le Saux.

fatharrywhite Posted on 18/7 10:11
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"I predict a lot of games for Taylor...the next Roberto Carlos"

god i hope not, carlos is the most overrated player the world has ever seen

captain5 Posted on 18/7 10:12
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Second biggest thighs in world football though, harry.

zamboni80 Posted on 18/7 10:13
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Fatarry I got that from the horses mouth (well the horses mates husband) who's wife is friends with francks wife and goes on players/staff nights out with the quedrues so has seen with her own eyes what a biatch Mrs mad dog is and how little they get on. This may not be the main reason but is certainley one of them.

fatharrywhite Posted on 18/7 10:15
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i'm not saying it isnt true, i'm saying what the hell would that have to do with him leaving. how often would their respective wives meet!!!

Big_Shot Posted on 18/7 10:15
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'Taylor could be the new Ashley Cole or Graeme Le Saux'

What are you trying to say about him

neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 10:15
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Sas, fickle or not, he hasn't been playing as well as we know he can lately.

Jastie Posted on 18/7 10:16
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sasboro - couldn't agree more. With the exception of Rain_Wooney, who thinks exactly the same as me, I've never read such a load of old pony as on this thread.

Nah, that's probably not true.

Lucky_Alf Posted on 18/7 10:16
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"Wow, dosn't the Southgate reign just fill you with more confidence by the day?"

Yep, certainly does. Another poor performer bites the dust.

captain5 Posted on 18/7 10:16
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Future England left back of course, B_S.

Your dirty mind..........

mufflar Posted on 18/7 10:17
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I thought Ashley Cole was the new Graham Le Saux...didnt he get married at the weekend?

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 10:19
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If we get rid of all the poor performers from last season, we will only have about half a dozen players left!

captain5 Posted on 18/7 10:19
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Who are the six then??

neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 10:21
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"Fatarry I got that from the horses mouth (well the horses mates husband) who's wife is friends with francks wife and goes on players/staff nights out with the quedrues so has seen with her own eyes what a biatch Mrs mad dog is and how little they get on. This may not be the main reason but is certainley one of them."

This is hilarious. Even if you believe the info from the mate's mate's wife's friend(!) it's a fooking joke that whether his wife gets on with another player's wife would have ANY effect whatsoever on his next move. Does she get to interview all the Fulham player's wives to vet them to ensure she gets on?

If your wife didn't get on with a workmates wife, would you leave your job? What amazes me more than the lame reasons given to justify things that happen at the boro is the fact that people choose to repeat them!

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 10:23
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Cetrtainly isnt any defenders in that 6, as we was nearly as bad as Sunderland last season.

Lucky_Alf Posted on 18/7 10:24
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"fickle boro fans again..not too long ago everyone on here were saying he should be called up for the french squad as there are no better french left backs than him"

Were they fk.

zamboni80 Posted on 18/7 10:24
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the wives not getting on isn't why francks going but its one of the problems that has caused unrest between him and poggy which IS one of the reasons he wants to leave.

mufflar Posted on 18/7 10:26
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If that was true Lamb would have dealt with it quietly and discretely...and had them both shot...

Unbelievable_Jeff Posted on 18/7 10:27
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Why doesnt franck stop socialising with them then, that would be the obvious solution. If i dont like someone at work doesnt mean im going to leave.

sasboro Posted on 18/7 10:27
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also remember people wondering if he could be nationalised to play for england and no better left backs in the country..etc

as expected he will get a good slagging off for leaving, but you have to remember he's not a local lad and is foreign, probably living in london and closer to france is more of an attraction than ingleby barwick

zamboni80 Posted on 18/7 10:27
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just like he did when Viv and Barmby had that little spat about wives?

graemef1980 Posted on 18/7 10:28
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perhaps we are going to get Steed as part of the deal. Would make sense if we are both looking to get rid of them?

neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 10:28
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Yeah, I bet pogo was nobbing his wife as well eh?

Tosh mate.

fatharrywhite Posted on 18/7 10:29
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the barmby comment says it all really......basically your gullible to believe any made up rumour!!!!

BossHogg Posted on 18/7 10:30
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Scoea, I think Southgate is only willing to let him leave because he doesn't want to be here, not because he's a bad player!

McClarens decision to play Poga ahead of him at the start of last season, really wrecked an excellent Boro performer IMO!

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 10:30
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Cant see us getting Steed, hes been fighting tooth and nail not to come here, like Doula was last season and Southgate pulled the plug on that deal.

neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 10:30
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just noticed the barmby comment. QED.

zamboni80 Posted on 18/7 10:31
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believe what you want neil I know this to be true and poggi and franck don't see eye to eye over the matter which is causing a split in the dressing room which is why one of them has to go, unless Southgate can pull the squad back together.

tounge was firmly in cheek with the barmby comment

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fatharrywhite Posted on 18/7 10:32
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well, it was a while coming but i did predict on the 3rd message that someone would blame Mcclaren eventually. to be honest the favourite was rara but it has to be said that you were pretty short odds too

Rain_Wooney Posted on 18/7 10:32
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Southgate made a point of saying that, from a player's perspective, there is not a lot of work to be done on the coaching staff. If it's not broken, don't fix it. He said nothing about the playing staff. Remember that stuff about 'things not right in dressing room'? Team spirit was low at points of last season? Maybe Southgate is working out who really wants to be at Boro and is building a team around those players. I back his judgement, but still recognise that players like Hasselbaink and Queudrue made big contributions to Boro's recent success. Hasselbaink wanted the financial security of 2 years and Q. had probably gone a bit stale. It's no crime on anyone's part that these players are leaving, as the reason's for their departure are logical.

I think there are more players to leave in this close season yet. Wouldn't suprise me if Watford or somebody came in for Ray Parlour, for a start. I just hope we balance the outgoings with some incomings to make sure we don't get caught short around the New Year period, as often happens.

neiltrodden Posted on 18/7 10:33
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Boss, neither of us can prove this either way but there is the possibility that Franck's poor form was the reason he was dropped, not the result of it.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 10:34
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I remember Jimmy saying on soccer AM last season that without doubt Franky was the worst trainer at the club.....I would suggest Southgates willingness to let him go can be found in JFHs analysis of Boros worst trainers. The modern fullback should be one of the fitest players at any club.....Franky isn't. He was particularly at his worst when he had to play 2 games in a week, he looked knackered after about 10 mins in those situations. He isn't exactly a good role model for all the young kids coming through, and Gate has witnessed first hand how poor his training regime is.

If we get a decent fee then it isn't a loss especially as Taylor looks capable of being a top class player in the very near future.

As a footnote, it makes me laugh how many Boro fans consistanly big up our defenders when we had one of the worst defensive records in the league last year. Riggott is not england class, Gate was well past it, Franky is not good enough for the french team, Parnaby is a bottom half prem player. Skippy is the best of our usual back 5.

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rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 10:34
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At least im consistant about smac, I bet every one of his "little fans" booed him against Villa, certainly none of them cheered him.

Sadza Posted on 18/7 10:34
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Maybe the bad feeling was caused by Pog taking over Frankies mantle as having the daftest haircut at the Club

BossHogg Posted on 18/7 10:35
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Agreed Neil, neither of us can, it's just my personal viewpoint!

sasboro Posted on 18/7 10:36
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Frank q probably got p1ssed off when a new centre back was put in as left back and our best left back was moved to accommodate him such as put into midfield. I mean you wouldnt play viduka on the wing so massimo or christie could play upfront with yakubu

scoea Posted on 18/7 10:41
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BossHogg - I am not saying for one minute that Franck isn't/wasn't a good player. As I said above I think he is capable of being a top player in his position. However, it has been clear for all to see for over a season that Franck has not been anywhere near his best or anywhere near fit enough. That is the reason he is being allowed to leave.

If he really were upset by McClaren picking Pogo (which was the right decision) it would only take a quick word from Gareth to tell him that he was first choice to make him want to stay. The fact that Gareth clearly doesn't think that says it all.

skiprat Posted on 18/7 10:41
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"believe what you want neil I know this to be true"

No you don't. You believe a 4th hand rumour.

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 10:43
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I think the deciding factor if he goes to Fulham, is because its London and most foriegn players want to live in London.

Boro85 Posted on 18/7 10:43
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Does this mean Taylor signed his contract?

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 18/7 10:48
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A couple of years ago I was listening to a pre season chat on Radio Cleveland. Terry Cochrane was being asked the questions and he pointed out Frank as being the weak link at the back, through his inability to stop a decent winger. Unfortunately his replacement is even less capable, Pogatetz that is. Taylor may be the one Southgate thinks is ready for the role.

Lucky_Alf Posted on 18/7 10:49
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Spot on Boromart. We dont have a good defense.

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 10:49
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At the end of the day, Fulham has about as much chance in one of the cups as Boro, neither teams gonna get anywhere near europe, clubs are pulling away at the top now.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 10:51
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"because its London and most foriegn players want to live in London." - get a grip, most footballer do not live in London, they live in some leafy suburb outside the M25.

Who on earth would WANT to live in that filthy, crime ridden, toxic, overpopulated hell hole if they had a choice?

RaRa have you any proof that more foreign players play for London clubs? We have always had a lot foreigners, so do Bolton, Newcastle, Manure, Man City etc.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 10:52
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The top 4 are pulling away, Spurs are making an attempt to catch them, the rest are pretty similar ability, we have a decent shout at one of the last 2 UEFA spots, if we can get a couple of good players in.

Pally Posted on 18/7 10:53
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I'll be sad to see him go, but there's really no point in keeping players who dont want to give 100% everyweek for the club.

Pogo could do a job if he gets his head screwed on at times I think, but Taylor would be my choice, looks very tidy playing in that position, aswell as Midfield.

Anyone know the figures?

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rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 10:54
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Not every foriegn player can play for a london club!! A lot dont get the choice.
They live in the fashionable areas of London, not the slum areas.
Like Footballers up here dont live in St hildas etc.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 18/7 10:55
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It would seem Franck is disillusioned with life at Boro, which may explain why he wasn't training hard. It's a shame because he always seemed committed on the pitch. The bit about the wives not getting on is bound to affect the atmosphere in the dressing room. I remember 15 years ago, when Beardsley left Liverpool, it was to do with Mrs Beardsley and Mrs Dalglish not getting on. The rumours at the time were that Kenny and Peter weren't getting on, but it was the wives. Dalglish actually made a point of playing in Beardsley's testimonial.

It may be that one of Queudrue and Pogatetz has to go. As Franck only has one or two years left on his contract and has previously said that he might fancy a move rather than extending his stay here, selling him is the easy option. From a footballing point o view though, I'd rather keep Queudrue and sell Pogatetz. This seems as much a business decision.

Very sad as it has weakened the squad.

boroboymike Posted on 18/7 10:55
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A big loss for me. A cult figure and one of MaCLaren's best buys.

Tend to agree with Rain_Wooney that franky is a swanky, cosmopolitan kind of bloke and probably feels he's had his fill of Teesside and fancies the big city.

I was also under the impression from a Spam valley chum that he'd recently got divorced, though I'm probably wrong.

Just hope we get Malbranque in p/x.

Scoea on fine form pontificating and spouting utter sh11te on this thread. The new season is officially upon us.

ovy1 Posted on 18/7 10:58
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Its to boost his Rep of Ireland prospects!

sasboro Posted on 18/7 11:04
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Whether its a good move to sell him wil depend on how good and how expensive his replacement is.

Cockney_Barra_Boy Posted on 18/7 11:07
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Isn't the fact that he smokes like a chimney part iof the problem regarding training.

I say good on Southgate, taking no shoite.

And living in London is not that bad.

Hardly the "filthy, crime ridden, toxic, overpopulated hell hole" that was described early. Especially as the same could be said about Boro........and before you start, I'm just saying that London is not that bad...not ripping into Boro.

He will love it down here. Fulham and Hammersmith etc are nice areas and when they put him up somewhere around the buckinghamshire, berkshire area he love it even more. Poor career move though.

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jayblock Posted on 18/7 11:07
you cant blame the boy,

Blimey no wonder they dont produce wine in the North East , the grapes are far to sour for that !!
Good luck to him , hes off to the cosmopolitan City of London, leaving behind the most polluted crime ridden City in England ,
Be honest where would you rather live ?(if you could afford to that is)
or maybe he is just sick to death of that bl 00dy stupid clapping thing you do
As some of the more realistic of you have posted above , you have lost a very very good left back today , now dry your eyes and get over it !!!

boroboy75 Posted on 18/7 11:07
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It will be a shame if he does leave.
Taylor looks a good prospect, although he's probably still a bit rough around the edges, and Pogatetz, sadly his ability doesn't match his committment.

smoggieinmanc Posted on 18/7 11:07
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well, ive never been a huge fan of franck, he is ok, but as i always said, there is a reason he has never played for france. he has plenty of ability, but has a dodgy attitude and doesnt concentrate for 90 minutes!

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 18/7 11:11
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"leaving behind the most polluted crime ridden City in England"

Well that rules out Middlesbrough then. Get your facts right rent boy!

And I would rather live up here than London. If I won the lottery, I'd still stay up here, although obviously I'd move to one of the more affluent parts of the area, e.g. one of those beautiful villages on the outskirts of town in the foothills of the North Yorkshire Moors, officially the most beautiful part of England.

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boropatch Posted on 18/7 11:11
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Pogo was'nt that expensive.

Lucky_Alf Posted on 18/7 11:12
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He has ability in the air, but not much on the deck.

scoea Posted on 18/7 11:19
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Come on then Mike - what have I said that is untrue?

Boromart Posted on 18/7 11:28
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"with life at Boro, which may explain why he wasn't training hard" - a bit of a chicken and egg situation...the way I hear it he has always been a poor trainer, and I also heard that he was a heavy smoker.

Regarding him living in lLondon and being 'cosmopolitan'. Hasn't he got a couple of kids? Most responsible parents wouldn't live in London, given the choice, even ones who can afford to live in the exclusive parts.

"the grapes are far to sour for that !!"
No sour grapes on my behalf, good going forward, but a defender must defend first and that is what lets him down.

"leaving behind the most polluted crime ridden City in England"
I have just been mulling over the car crime figures as part of my
job, Out of the top twenty hotspots 15 are within the M25....London has without doubt the worst crime rates in the country, even when you work it out on a per capita basis. If you want to check the national statistics on polution you will also see London is top, and Boro is below Newcastle, Leeds, Manchester etc.

I'm not one of these, Boro is the greatest place on earth type, in fact I live in Kent, but have a good 50 mile buffer between me and that dirty place we call our capital and limit myself to 1 visit a month so that my lungs do not clogg up.



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smeghead Posted on 18/7 11:30
re: you cant blame the boy,

"Be honest where would you rather live ?(if you could afford to that is)"

spent 18 years living in London due to work reasons,came back 2 years ago and wouldnt particularly want to go back even to visit thanks

grantus Posted on 18/7 11:34
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Really hoped that Southgate's appointment would have refocused Franck with us. That he still wants to leave is a damn shame. He's been one of our best players over the last 4 years and to see some of you slag him off is also a shame.

Another first team player looks like leaving. That's Southgate, Jimmy, Doriva *ahem* and Franck.

If he goes, then good luck Franck lad, I for one wish you all the best.

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ThePrisoner Posted on 18/7 11:38
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I'm gutted. I was hoping Southgate would bring Franck back into the fold but it looks like too much water has gone under the bridge and we now face the prospect of Pogo as permanent left back instead (shakes head).

Boromart Posted on 18/7 11:38
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I also wish him the best, he has been an iconic player for us, I just feel his reputation outways his performances. He could have been a top player IF he had been a better professional.

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 11:44
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How many of you who are not bothered about Franck going, said anything against him in the 4 years before last year, not one of you!
The problems started since Pogo came, get shot of Pogo then!
Trouble is nobody would take pogo for free.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 11:50
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RaRa, I've always thought he was overrated and defensively suspect. In fact many people have questioned him defensively from the start, especially when he stupidly kept getting sent off for diving in. If you feel you need a scapegoat in Pogo then good luck to you, but the faults lay firmly at Franks door. Those who say he was dropped in favour of Pogo last year are factually incorrect, it was more rotational, and with Franks lack of fitness making it stupid to make him play 2 games a week, then I think it was the right decision to rotate him.

He started 26 premiership games last season, he missed some of the others with injuries, so was only rested for about 6-8 games.

I will give him this, he is the second best player beginning with Q in premier league history - Mike Quigley, Alan Quinn, Andrew Quinn, Barry Quinn, Mick Quinn,
Niall Quinn, Robert Quinn, Wayne Quinn, Andy Quy



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scoea Posted on 18/7 11:53
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Why does this type of thread always have to degenerate into this with a McCLaren subplot?

I have always thought Franck was great. On his day he is the best left back at the club. However, it has been painfully obvious (and I have been saying this for months) that he has not been fit or "at it" for ages now. I agreed with the decision to pick Pogatetz ahead of him and do not agree that he is anywhere near as bad as some of you like to believe.

What I think is that Pogo will never be accepted because he is in competition with Franck. It reminds me of the worship of Juninho when it was obvious that he was no longer at the peak of his powers.

captain5 Posted on 18/7 11:55
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I think most people like him and think that overall he has done a good job for us, but there are weaknesses in his game.

Over the course of the last season the positives have diminished for whatever reason.

If he was really that good and or committed, he would be able to make sure that no manager could find an excuse to leave him out, whether that be Smac, Gate or whoever.

Moody41 Posted on 18/7 11:58
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Fantastic player for us although last season you could tell he wasn't his normal self. Will be a shame to see him go but it seems pretty clear he has no intentions of extending his contract so better off letting him go now rather then for free in a years time. Hope he moves back to France mind.

boroboy75 Posted on 18/7 11:59
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scoea, maybe some people can see beyond Pogo charging around and crunching into tackles. He isn't a particularly good player.

corruptbiggins Posted on 18/7 12:01
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Pogatetz reminds me of Queudrue in his 1st season. But Queudrue didn't have to deal with competing against a fan's favourite. Well maybe a little bit with Cooper but it wasn't much of a competition.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 12:02
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no but Taylor is.

As a side note your statement can actually be applied to Franky too, maybe not to the same degree, but there is more than an elemant of truth in it.

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rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 12:04
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Im not knocking pogo for effort, but hes no more then a journey man.
I found it amusing somebody criticised frank for getting too many cards earlier and yet failed to criticise Pogo for being a psycho on the pitch.

bevo2005 Posted on 18/7 12:06
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The most worrying thing for me about all this is that in losing FQ, Jimmy, Doriva and GS we are getting rid of players with premier league experience. We are in for a hell of a struggle next year if we dont get it right with their replacements

Boromart Posted on 18/7 12:17
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RaRa, I failed to critisice Pogo for getting too many cards, because this thread is about Frank not Pogo. I AGREE that Pogo gets too many cards. Although I think he will do better this year, he has had a year to acclimatise to the prem, and most foreign lpayers need that. For the record I don't beleive that Pogo is the answer to our leftback slot.

But that doesn't make Franky a more complete player and the answer either. Neither of them are good enough (certainly on last seasons form), in my opinion.

sproutruss Posted on 18/7 12:22
re: you cant blame the boy,

I'll miss his haircuts, not his footballing prowess.

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 12:23
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Seeing as though the defence was shocking last season (only Sunderland was worse) Marts got a fair point, but for some to suggest Pogo is that much better, is a joke.
The worry is players are leaving/retiring and no ones come in yet to improve the defence.
The longer we wait the more chance of a panic buy that doesnt improve the team or we end up short handed.

Lefty3668 Posted on 18/7 12:25
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I think this is a nightmare. Franck has his weaknesses, who doesn't? You are not trying to tell me Pogo is less of a liability especially at full back.

Taylor is a great prospect, but he is young, inexperienced and he is bound to be inconsistant and so he will only be cover.

Meanwhile we will have lost player who can play full back or centre half, is one of the few good headers of the ball we have,has experience, bottle, crosses well, has a good shot and is a goal threat.

This is not good news.

Revol_Tees Posted on 18/7 12:27
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Personally I never thought a half-fit Franck was any worse than a fully fit and 100% committed Pogatetz in terms of ability. But you can't really argue with what's happened ... He was off his game last season and is clearly now a want-away player. Pogatetz is a younger player with room for improvement and presumably Southgate has a hell of lot of faith in him. I suspect Taylor is being lined up behind him, so Franck's departure should facilitate more first-team appearances for him too. But no hard feelings towards Franck from me - he's a legend IMO and I think much of the criticism on here has been disproportionate.

zaphod Posted on 18/7 12:45
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FQ was a bit of a liability last season, following probably his best season for the club the previous year. He's always been in and out, with spells where he was badly out of form.

What I found interesting was that our defence improved greatly right at the end of the season, when a lot of young lads were playing. We struggled to score, but looked pretty solid at the back. It makes me pretty confident about our defence next season.

crisboro Posted on 18/7 12:46
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A big loss as far as i'm concerned and has been my favourite player. However I think he needs a change and a fresh start last seasn was not a good one for franck all aound with injuries etc. I say Good luck to him and I hope he recaptures his form so he can challenge Abidal for his place. IMO Southgate has nothing to do with this Francks mind was made up a while ago (his goodbye wave at eindhoven proves that).
What should be a main concern now is our depleted back four with parnaby, riggot, pogatetz, Taylor it could be a very long season.

jo290204 Posted on 18/7 12:50
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gutted is the word i would use, hes better then mad dog but if he wants to go all i can say is good luck frank thanks for every thing you have done for the boro,

scoea Posted on 18/7 12:50
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Revol - I think that the decision to let Franck go might have more to do with what Southgate sees in Taylor than in Pogotetz and may even have something to do with the potential signing of Distin who can also play there.

Revol_Tees Posted on 18/7 12:58
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Yeah that would definitely make sense, scoea, I agree.

Francky4France Posted on 18/7 13:01
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Gutted Have to change my username now!
Wonder how long before the move is finalised.

captain5 Posted on 18/7 13:10
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Change your username??

Fickle as.

Boro_Owl Posted on 18/7 13:19
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Change it to wanky4france

captain5 Posted on 18/7 13:20
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That'd cause too much confusion in real life for her.

SuperSmoggie Posted on 18/7 13:33
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Bad move for Franck IMO, I have a feeling Fulham will struggle badly next season.

But hey, if he wants to go living it up in the Big Smoke then so be it.

Thanks for the memories Franck, one of my favourite Boro players ever, and an ever present every season in my fantasy teams.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 13:41
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RaRa - I don't beleive anyone on this thread has claimed that Pogo is better than Frank, I think you are getting a bit carried away with your defence him, you are reading things which ar enot there.

Anyway good luck to him, Ihappen to think that Scoea is correct, Taylor is the best young leftback I have seen since Ashley Cole arrived on the scene. He has pace, skill, body strength, athletiscism, a good engine, decent skills......we could have one hell of a player on our hands. Expect Spurs to offer 7 mill for him by christmas!

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rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 13:44
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If nobody thinks Pogo is better, shouldnt we all be worried the teams gonna be weakened then?

Boromart Posted on 18/7 13:48
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well that really depends on who we bring in, and it may not be a direct replacement....for example this back 4:-

Parnaby....Riggott.....Distin.....Taylor

is IMO much better than

Parnaby....Riggott....Pogo...Queudrue

I would gladly loose a Franky and gain a Distin, and at the same time give Taylor lots of playing time.

Even better

Parnaby...Huth...Distin...Taylor

rararasputin2 Posted on 18/7 13:52
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Taylor put in a couple of performances last season, better then the other 2 managed. But I would say
a) Thats not a big enough sample to judge anyone by
b) Its a lot to ask a young lad to be 1st choice for the season, espically as he looks very small.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 14:02
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It is a big ask, but I would be happy, ideally, if Taylor started about 24 games and Pogo about 14.

Taylor played a lot more than 24 games last season (half a season on loan with Bradford plus 7 league starts for us), and he was one of the fitest looking players in the camp in April/May.

Yes we have only had a glimpse, but hwat we have seen is very exciting. He looks a proper modern day fullback, he can run all day long.

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corruptbiggins Posted on 18/7 14:06
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It surprised me to see that Taylor played in 20 matches last season. And he had 24 games with Bradford, but that was at a lower standard of playing.

Cobain_94 Posted on 18/7 14:28
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McCmahon's miles better then Parnaby and should be first choice next season.

corruptbiggins Posted on 18/7 14:33
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Where the hell did that load of bollacks come from?

grantus Posted on 18/7 14:47
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McMahon hasn't even proved himself, how many games has he played? Better than Parnaby, maybe one day, right now, not a chance.

holgate_rochey Posted on 18/7 14:49
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would be sorry to see him go but with Taylor and Mad Dog I'm not as gutted as I would have been.

Boromart Posted on 18/7 15:01
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Is that a light goods vehicle with a musical ensamble on the back....and look that Cobain fella has just jumped onto it.

I suppose that young Tony Mac will be the first stick to beat Southgate the manager with, when a) he doesn't pick him or b) he does pick him and he turns out to be more Phil than Gary Neville.

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BobendBill Posted on 18/7 15:15
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the horses mouth thingy !

Link: come back frank