| craig_pancrack Posted on 26/7 1:18 | |
| Mallon / Demolition Letter in Gazette - Cut | |
A letter I sent to the Gazette about the demolition of historic buildings and Mallon's comments was printed tonight but the last paragraph was cut entirely...thus missing my point. As I have had one or two emails asking what my point was - the full letter is now on my website if anyone is interested. | |
| Link: Letter Uncut | |
| Stepper_T Posted on 26/7 2:13 | |
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| j_orourke Posted on 26/7 8:32 | |
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What do we expect voting a bent ex-copper in as mayor? | |
| scuzzmonster Posted on 26/7 9:25 | |
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Seems to have been a high mortality rate in the cast of 'A Century in Stone'. Is the film cursed? | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 26/7 9:26 | |
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you do realise that local journalists, on the whole, are incompetent? | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 26/7 9:28 | |
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uh??? the cast (interviewees) were all very old and the oldest born in 1897. | |
| scuzzmonster Posted on 26/7 9:30 | |
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Craig, it's always great publicity to suggest that a film is 'cursed'. Just a thought, like. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 26/7 9:33 | |
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Incompetence? That's cutting the last paragraph in error. This cutting must have been deliberate, especially when you read the tone of the last paragraph. That last paragraph is quite inflammatory and perhaps they were worried about libel?? If that is the case, they should have not printed it at all and grown a fooking backbone. | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 26/7 9:35 | |
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i am miffed. so mallon can make the ridiculous statement of not knowing but my response is neutered. a full on letters page makes for good debate which is good for the gazette sales right. its so lame. bah. | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 26/7 9:36 | |
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(ignore this, computer playing up) --- Post edited by craig_pancrack on 26/7 9:39 --- | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 26/7 9:39 | |
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OK, it is imcompetence to cut the main point of a letter, yet keep the rest of it in. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 26/7 9:45 | |
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Or perhaps they cut the last paragraph because it accuses Mallon of knowing about it and of lying about it in his Gazette interview? | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 26/7 9:51 | |
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but why keep only half a arguement in though, that what I'm saying. | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 26/7 10:10 | |
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They bottled it. The letter does make a point without that last paragraph but it is not the point Craig wanted to make. If you don't think the Gazette bottled it, read the article about the CSI link via Craig's page and the Gazette says '**Mayor** Ray Mallon, **who was unaware of the demolition plans**, described it as "an assault on the town".' That's it. No investigation or questioning of why the Mayor would not know this and also, critically, why the Mayor thinks "I didn't know" is a valid excuse!!! Any proper newspaper would have jumped all over this like a rash but it shows how small-time the Gazette are. (For a further example of how small-time they are, it's 'Jobs' night in the paper tonight, check out the "**Scores** of Jobs!!!!11" banner at the top of the front page.) | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 26/7 10:10 | |
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Fridgey - i agree why print half? and they didnt have to cut all of it. Trodsky - inflammatory...the demolition and what mallon said was inflammatory. Libel i am not afraid of. What is libel? What about free speech? We elect them, they are public servants. Mallon can say what he wants and is above criticism. This isn't George Bush's America. I didnt have any proof of him lying...I said I believed he wasnt telling the truth. Neil - also...i totally agree the Gazette should have been all over it. --- Post edited by craig_pancrack on 26/7 10:12 --- | |
| boroboy75 Posted on 26/7 10:12 | |
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What's with your Mallon witchhunt? Did he nick you in his previous job, or something? | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 26/7 10:15 | |
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I agree with you! They bottled it and fudged it. Gazette are no different to most lcoal rags. There is actually something happening elsewhere in the country that will make a mess of things somewhere but at the press briefing all the journos were borthered about was if we were getting a Selfridges (more chance of seeing a snowman eating a calippo in hell before that happens). None of them twigged about the significant changes to the scheme design, and they were massiev and ugly. No sense of investigativness. I was there re: a website I maintain but because of something that happened I was briefed by my boss not to ask difficult questions. --- Post edited by the_broken_fridge on 26/7 10:15 --- | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 26/7 10:25 | |
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Craig, RE the libel comment: libel was probably not the reason behind the cut on reflection. Sadly though, that means that they cut it just to avoid upsetting "the powers that be". You have every right in my opinion to question Mallon's motives and the Gazette has a DUTY to question them. The bottom line is, the Gazette should have hammered Mallon but it's tabloid junk and doesn't sell as well as a "local tragedy" on the front cover. | |
| j_orourke Posted on 26/7 10:50 | |
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Nicked me...Not a chance, he never had the opportunity. But he did condone the giving out of seized and bonded drugs to local junkies for information on who was selling them! Like I said the silver tongued cavalier is an ex bent copper nothing more nothing less, he not to be trusted. At least Hartlepool voted for the kid in the monkey suit, the one we voted in is just not funny! | |
| neiltrodden Posted on 26/7 10:59 | |
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"But he did condone the giving out of seized and bonded drugs to local junkies for information on who was selling them!" They don't mention him choosing to sell drugs to junkies when they moot his famous "zero-tolerance" policy, do they? | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 26/7 12:20 | |
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BoroBoy75 - no witchhunt. just free speech mate. | |
| ThePrisoner Posted on 26/7 12:30 | |
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It's good to know we've got our very own Mayor Joe Quimby. Bent as a nine bob note. | |
| sw2boro Posted on 26/7 19:31 | |
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I believe he was at an interesting opening night party the other week too. | |
| MontagueLongfellow Posted on 26/7 19:43 | |
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"But he did condone the giving out of seized and bonded drugs to local junkies for information on who was selling them!" Excellent strategy from Sir Raymond, the only thing he did wrong was to entice them with too small quantities, he should of stockpiled the seizures then handed out more than junkies could handle once theyd spilled their guts. | |
| Gillandi Posted on 26/7 19:55 | |
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My mate has the salient points cut from his letters in the Gazette every week....on the same subject. Get the feeling a good subby at Borough Road could save whats left of Boro's Victorian heritage. Unless you start peeing in the same pot as these people you are up against it. | |
| Mr_Incident Posted on 26/7 20:58 | |
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I'd say it probably was for libel reasons that they cut the last para. It accuses Mallon of straightforward dishonesty, which is defamatory and leaves the Gazette with no option but to cut it under media law. And even though you only say you 'believe' he was dishonest, that's only fair comment in media law if you can base your opinion on a provable fact. It's not you who would get sued, it's them for publishing it. And I'd say Mallon's the type who would go straight for libel at any opportunity. He's an egomaniac, afterall (fair comment, by the way  ).For what it's worth, I suspect you're right about Mallon. Just saying it probably wasn't incompetence on the Gazette's part... or even necessarily them being too wimpish to print it. Any decent media type would know your letter is a better one with the last para included! | |
