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DrBuck Posted on 14/8 22:50
Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Is obviously in Thornaby yet has a sign saying it is in Stockton-on-Tees!

What's that all about then?

barwick_red Posted on 14/8 22:51
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
isnt stockton-on-tees the county ?

newholgate Posted on 14/8 22:52
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Its got a Thornaby postcode (TS17) and is built on land that used to be owned by Thornaby farms.

Stockton just try to claim everything thats better than Stockton by sticking a nime sign up.

DrBuck Posted on 14/8 22:54
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I would hardly think that Thornaby is 'better' than Stockton. Have you ever been there?

newholgate Posted on 14/8 22:55
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I was born in Stockton and live in Thornaby. Thornaby is far better.

DrBuck Posted on 14/8 22:55
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Surely that ammounts to treason?

ive_lost_me_flag Posted on 14/8 22:56
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
We are Thornaby but both us and Thornaby are part of Stockton-on-Tees.

newholgate Posted on 14/8 22:56
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Why DrBuck?

Flag, we are not part of Stockton, we are just administered by Stockton Borough Council.

The signs actually say "Borough of Stockton-on-Tees".

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janplanner Posted on 14/8 22:58
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
i wouldn't have thought it was either. but it is within stockton council boundaries, but then so is thornaby. so they're both in stockton, without actually being in stockton.

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john_b Posted on 14/8 23:01
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
It doesn't know where it is. On the deeds to our house it says Ingleby Barwick, Co Durham.

ive_lost_me_flag Posted on 14/8 23:01
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Its not even a town, its just an estate thats part of Thornaby.

newholgate Posted on 14/8 23:04
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
You are right Flag. It was originally built as a housing estate in Thornaby (hence the Thornaby postcode) and like all housing estates, was given a name. Ingleby Barwick was an ancient settlement around that area, so the estate took its name from that.

DrBuck Posted on 14/8 23:04
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Stockton is/was in County Durham, Ingleby Barwick is south of the Tees and therefore is in Yorkshire. It cannot be in both.

Mat_Evans Posted on 14/8 23:42
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
oooo holgate you're quite techy about this...i heard thornaby and ingleby are all part of stockton.....

DrBuck Posted on 14/8 23:43
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Perhaps there's a touch of regret that he has to live in Thornaby?

kazzaxxx Posted on 14/8 23:48
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
ingleby barwick is definatly thornaby

DrBuck Posted on 14/8 23:49
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
No doubt about it.

Mat_Evans Posted on 14/8 23:53
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
and thornaby is definatly stockton

TeessideCleveland Posted on 14/8 23:55
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Ingleby Barwick is within the 'county' (for want of a better word) of Stockton-On-Tees (as are Yarm and Thornaby)
Stockton is not in Durham as it is , like Middlesbrough , a unitary authority
When the Yorkshireites produce links as evidence there has on more on one occasion been mention of the parts of Stockton 'south of the Tees'

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DrBuck Posted on 14/8 23:56
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I beg to differ Mat.

Oh I suggest you use definitely instead of definatly in future. You too Kazzaxx.

PARMO_EATER Posted on 14/8 23:59
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I like to think of myself as a true Thorbarian.

Mat_Evans Posted on 15/8 0:00
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
awwww come on buck, dont take the bait that easily at least put up a fight.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 0:06
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Soory Mat, I'm too tired. I have to snuggle up in my cosy little bed here in Ingleby.

kazzaxxx Posted on 15/8 0:08
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
definitely a fight

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 0:11
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Managed to spell it correctly this time I see kazz eh?

kazzaxxx Posted on 15/8 0:12
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?

Tell_Tale_Tallulah Posted on 15/8 0:13
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I used to work in a shoe shop in middlesbrough. When people from barwick filled in their address on returns receipts, some of them put either, 'Ingleby Barwick, Nr Yarm' or even more pretentiously, 'Ingleby Barwick, Yarm Side'. Cracked me up it did.

buffaloboro Posted on 15/8 0:14
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
if it's South its Yorks

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 0:15
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Yarm!!! The plot thickens. What's that about then?

bubblesmfc Posted on 15/8 0:22
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I've never known anyone say they live in Ingleby Barwick near Yarm or Yarm side . Something of a myth that one i reckon.

Nice story though.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 0:25
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Why not Ingleby Barwick, Thornaby? Ingleby/Thornaby is nowhere near Yarm, which is a bigger dump than Thornaby anyway.

StandingRoomOnly Posted on 15/8 0:26
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
newholgate, he think's you are a man

bubblesmfc Posted on 15/8 0:27
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Separated by a big river as well.

(It's actually closer to Eaglescliffe).

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 0:29
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
And how can one tell pray?

StandingRoomOnly Posted on 15/8 0:33
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
just need to read her replies and post's.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 0:36
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
There is nothing in her (sorry newholgate) replies that gives a hint of gender as far as I can see.

Grumpy_Paul Posted on 15/8 0:38
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Does it really matter, IB is just a soul-less concrete jungle anyway

StandingRoomOnly Posted on 15/8 0:38
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Common mistake, ask ParmoMan

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 0:41
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Grumpy Paul, you give the place too much credit man.

Stepper_T Posted on 15/8 0:42
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Newholgate wears the trousers, aparently

thornabyred Posted on 15/8 6:39
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
In the Northumbria in Bloom competition IB is classed as part of Thornaby and Thornaby is judged as a small "city" due to the total
population being around 34,000.

Thornaby is part of the Stockton Borough,tru,but it does have its own Town Council and can date back furthr in historical mentions than Stockton.2 mentions in the Domesday book.It also has a 12th century church on the village green.

Dont get me started on the Thornaby/Stockton debate or I could be here all day.

flexikev Posted on 15/8 7:06
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Postal Address is

Ingelby Barwick
Thornaby On Tees
Stockton On Tees

but we all know that people who live in ingelby like to think the live in Yarm

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 7:11
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
"Ingleby Barwick was an ancient settlement around that area, so the estate took its name from that."
Ingleby Barwick is simply old English for barley fields so dont read too much into the ancient settlement, its simply what the land was.

With a population of nearly 18,000, that would make IB larger than Thornaby itself.
In fact IB is made up of a number of villages, lowfields, beckfields etc, why has it not become a Town in its own right?

In fact Republic of Ingleby Barwick has a nice sound to it.

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 7:12
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
flexikev, no it isn't

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 8:03
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Flexikev, I've lived in IB for a good few years and it has never entered my mind that I live in or anywhere near Yarm!

I've always put Thornaby as my postal address, although I know some people put Stockton, hence my original post.

Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 15/8 8:29
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I think the resident of I.B. would prefer to think of themselves as being near Yarm, rather than Thornaby or Stockton !!!

towz Posted on 15/8 8:32
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I lived in Thornaby when I was a bairn. I wouldn't say Ingleby is part of either, same as Thornaby isn't Stockton

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 9:16
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I'm not stating a fact, just asking a question
How can IB be part of Thornaby when it is bigger?
When does a village become a town?

captain5 Posted on 15/8 9:28
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Thornaby is just another part of Stockton so I don't see the point of this.

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 9:42
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Be careful what you say captain, you'll have all the Thornaby gypsies and dealers up in arms.
saying that, they won't be up before lunch time

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 9:45
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
IB is not bigger than Thornaby. Thornaby has a population of over 25,000 as you said IB has a population of 18,000. The population of either is irrelevent because IB is within the boundaries of Thornaby, therefore people who live there should write their address, Ingleby Barwick, Thornaby. Its like if you live in Grangetown you'd write, Grangetown, Middlesbrough.

By the way i've come across plenty of people who say they live at Ingleby Barwick, Yarmside.

I used to be a Conservatory fitter and did a lot of work at Barwick. The customers hated any association with Thornaby, they particulary hated it when we wrote their address as Ingleby Barwick, Thornaby on thier invoice. One customer even scribbled it off!

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 9:48
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
The only thing thats wrong with Thornaby is its bast-ard child that is Ingleby Barwick. We had clean air in Thornaby till those snobs came along in gas guzzling 4x4's poluting our air.

The_Commisar Posted on 15/8 9:49
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
People in IB move there for a variety of reasons, some may move to get away from being associated from say Thornaby or Grangetown. I have a friend who was quite happy with living where he was, he was asked to visit local schools to meet under privaledged children, he looked at the list of schools and they were the schools his kids either went to or were going to...he realised he had to move.
One of the good things about IB is that the local councillors are not tied to any of the parties (I think theres a loose affiliation called IBIS), hence when it comes to voting they vote not for the party line, but for whats right for the locals. Just think, politicians looking after their voters interests, what ever next......

The only thing thats wrong with Thornaby is its bast-ard child that is Ingleby Barwick. We had clean air in Thornaby till those snobs came along in gas guzzling 4x4's poluting our air.

You need a 4x4 in IB to deal with getting past the burnt out cars in Thornaby town centre

--- Post edited by The_Commisar on 15/8 9:57 ---

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 9:55
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Theboy, IB population 18,000
Thornaby total population 34,000 inc IB,(according to thornabyred) I dont know the exact figures
As for your postal address, as far as I know it was the Post Office who decided, try looking up a IB postcode on the PO website

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 9:57
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Well stop using our supermarket and roads then Theboy.
Who do you think pays all the taxes for the benefits most of Thornaby is on?

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 10:19
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Just wait and see. In a few years I.B. will become Chav Central, it's already on it's way there. Those who live there have no reason whatsoever to feel themselves superior to anyone.

ive_lost_me_flag Posted on 15/8 10:30
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Ingleby Barwick is full of idiots. Its the most confused 'town' (?) ever. You have the lower middle class wannabe snobs, the chavs, and those who cudnt give two shitts. The lower middle class wannabe snobs have a raging battle between the chavs all the time, and those who cudnt give two shitts (ie me) just let em get on with it.

We are working class people stuck in middle class houses and made to believe we are middle class when were not.

Although my house isnt big so I am working class.

newholgate Posted on 15/8 10:32
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Stepper_T, you cheeky sod, I do not wear the trousers. I wouludn't want to either.


One leg each is fine for me

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 11:05
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
My mam lives in IB, and i lived there to until a few years back. It is most definately Thornaby! Same Postcode, same side of the River!

People who say, near Yarm etc are just wanna be snobs. When you ask where in Ingleby do you live? They say ''Oh the Yarm end''.

What the fookin hell is the Yarm end?

Must agree, IB has its fair share of chavs. Dr. Buck i dont think everyone from Ingleby feels themselves superior to others. Fair enough alot do.

And theBoy! You sound like a jealous priick, i went to St. Pats and my mates used to tease me about living in Ingleby when we were 12. Grow up man.

XXLshirts_fit_all Posted on 15/8 11:18
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
send an email to enquiries@inglebybarwick.com and ask them

part of the community webpage

Link: www.inglebybarwick.com/

Sadza Posted on 15/8 11:44
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED BAZZIE WOODS ESTATE AS ITS AN OVERGROWN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT STARTED AT THE TOP OF THORNABY GREEN ON BAZZIE LANE AND TOOK OVER THE BEST SLEDGE SLOPE IN TEESSIDE DOWN BY THE BECK!

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 11:46
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
All that 'keeping up with the Jones's' has to make I.B. the debt capital of Teesside. Or should that be north Yorkshire?

wheelz Posted on 15/8 11:47
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Historically, the river Tees was the boundary between Co. Durham and N. Yorks.

Gods Little Acre (Thornaby) and Toytown (IB) are both south of the Tees, in N. Yorkshire, therefore not physically in Stockton which is north of the Tees, therefore in Co. Durham.

Local (Teesside) bureaucracy's tinkering with boundaries and parish councils have tried to erode and dissipate the worth of successful communities by 'absorbing' and relocating them into other areas that wouldn't be the residents' preferred choice, (Cannon Park's wholesale move to Hemlington in the late 70's being a case in point).

Toytown is a cyst that has gradually grown on the back of Thornaby, and will one day burst and scatter it's spawn all over Teesside!!!


TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 12:42
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
bororeddaz do you think that nobody living in Barwick is on benefits? I know loads of people living there on benefits, getting housing benefit to pay the rent. They are all furcoat and no knickers.

"And theBoy! You sound like a jealous priick, i went to St. Pats and my mates used to tease me about living in Ingleby when we were 12. Grow up man."

WTF are you talking about. I must have fitted at least 50 conservatories in IB and thats how i've come to my conclusions. Thornaby was a much nicer place till the boil that is IB was spawn, FACT!

wheelz Posted on 15/8 12:46
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Thornaby rocks, TheBoy!!

jason040270 Posted on 15/8 14:00
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Ingelby Barwick, the names of the different developments are not Villages but the names of the farms that they where built on.

i once bought a car from a friend who worked for Yarmside, when i was cleaning the car i found the keys to Soberhall Farm, when i rang him and told him, he said "damn i was looking for them, if i had knew they where there i would not have put that jcb bucket through the front door before i demolished it"

The_Commisar Posted on 15/8 14:02
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
The Boy betrays his jealousy of the residents of IB "all fur coat", so basicly, you don't like people who trying to achieve something.
Sad.

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 14:22
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Why are the people of IB trying to achieve something more than anybody eles? If achieving something is being able to tell people you live in a four bed detatch in IB, then i'll be happy to under achieve for the rest of my life. £'s don't equal good and happy people you know.

The_Commisar Posted on 15/8 14:25
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
oooooooooooooooh
looks like I struck home on this one.....

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 14:26
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
So you have fitted conservatories for people? Does wanting a conservatory make you a snob? I think not.

You havnt got a decent argument to back up your 'conclusions'.

ewe_boy Posted on 15/8 14:45
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
The words 'snob' and 'Teesside' don't really go do they ?

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 14:54
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
The boy
Your thesis on IB is invalid in my opinion, based on the fact that you want to tax anybody who earns an average salary 80% tax (see dictator thread, you obviously aren't very good at fitting conservatories are you?
Your even biting the hands that feed, all those fur coat wanna be snobs paying you for manual labour, hmm

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 14:56
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Did i say wanting a conservatory made them a snob? no. The point is i have met, through work and at school, alot of people from there, and my experience of them is that they are snobs(not all of them obviously). Hence the not wanting to be associated with Thornaby and writeing 'Yarmside' on thier address.

Ewe boy anybody can be a snob. Its a state of mind.

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 14:56
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Indeed Bororeddaz

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 14:57
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I don't fit conservatoris anymore, thank God.

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 14:58
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
WTF's a wanna be snob? You're either a snob or you're not.

The_Commisar Posted on 15/8 14:59
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Theboy would obviously prefer it if people demonstrated no ambition, stayed in the same area they grew up in etc etc..

I believe thats known as inverse snobbery.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 15:01
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I wonder why? being able to spell the word correctly may have helped.

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 15:02
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
What line of work are you in ?

bororeddaz Posted on 15/8 15:04
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
nice ton thread on its way DrBuck

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 15:05
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Were the fck are you getting this from? My 1st post stated that people from IB don't like to be associated with Thornaby and that alot say they are from IB Yarmside, fact.

I have nothing against IB as a hole(my sister lives there, and yes she puts Thornaby on her address). Its the blatent snobbery of not wanting to be associated with Thornaby that annoys me. And yes i do believe that Thornaby was a better place before IB.

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 15:05
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
'WTF are you talking about. I must have fitted at least 50 conservatories in IB and thats how i've come to my conclusions. Thornaby was a much nicer place till the boil that is IB was spawn, FACT!'

The people of Thornaby all have this deluded dislike of the people of IB, just because they have a bit of money. If you have a nice car, a nice house, a good job, and want to do well in life you are a snob.

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 15:08
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
No making up a new address in the deluded thought that you're impressing people is blatent snobbery.

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 15:08
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
People of Thornaby also put Stockton On Tees as their address. That is the county.

ewe_boy Posted on 15/8 15:12
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
To be fair i wouldn't say many people are outright snobs 999,it,s just that if certain people have struggled hard to get the funds together against the odds to buy a house they want to feel they have done well for themselves ,and one way to feel you have done that that is to want to elevate the area you live in to an upmarket one .
Personally I couldn't give a monkeys as i dont feel i have anything to prove to anyone,but some people out there may have a point to prove ,maybe they were put down at school by being labelled failures at some point etc,or maybe want to better themselves if they come form a poor family... i honestly don,t know ..but yes i agree it is a state of mind. Remember the worse snobs are those who come into money ,not those who were born into it .

The_Commisar Posted on 15/8 15:13
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
love of Thornaby, good "working class lad"
is he the son of Ridsdale ?

wheelz Posted on 15/8 15:26
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
"The people of Thornaby all have this deluded dislike of the people of IB, just because they have a bit of money. If you have a nice car, a nice house, a good job, and want to do well in life you are a snob."

Boll_ocks, ayresome!!

I live in Thornaby, have a nice car, a nice house, a good job (- until 29th August anyway!!) and want to do well, but I'm not a snob, and don't dislike IB residents per se, just those who, because they see living in Toytown as a status symbol of some sort, who previously lived IN Thornaby, and have a complete condescending attitude of everything that reminds them of their 'roots'.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 15:27
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
there certainly is something about this topic that gets peoples backs up isn't there?

I was invited to a BBQ a while back and found that most of the men were pretty much o.k., except for a few who looked like dodgy drug dealing types. Whilst the women tended to gather in the dining room boasting about their possessions, which had mainly been bought by their husbands earnings anyway!

I don't know whethter this is representative or not, but it does reflect a little light surely?

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 15:34
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Oh, I do know that all the houses I've been in on I.B. seem to be made out of cardboard, are extremely small and have tiny gardens. I can't imagine why anyone would waste their well earned money on one of them. Unless it is snobbery?

The_Commisar Posted on 15/8 15:36
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Oh, I do know that all the houses I've been in on I.B. seem to be made out of cardboard, are extremely small and have tiny gardens. I can't imagine why anyone would waste their well earned money on one of them. Unless it is snobbery?

Looks like when you've been visiting they have stuck you in the rabbit hutch DrBuck(tooth)

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 15:36
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Wheelz, you are one of few then. I agree that those worst offenders are those who have moved from Thornaby, or stockton, etc.

I do realise there is a minority who think they are 'a cut above' for living in IB, but as an ex-resident of the place i know that the vast majority of people living in IB consider themselves no different to anyone else.

If you wanted your address to be a status symbol you would move to Hutton Rudby, Carlton, Stainton etc.

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 15:42
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
They can't afford to live in Hutton Rudby, Carlton, Stainton etc.

To be honest i know alot of nice peole from IB, but there are also alot who think they are a cut above and look down on anything/anyone to do with Thornaby. The fact is IB is in Thornaby and they need to get over it and stop dreaming of being part of Yarm.

The_Commisar Posted on 15/8 15:47
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
went for a drive through Hutton Rudby and that neck of the woods the other night, lovely palces but access to the A19 and points north was not great.
Prices were OK actually.
What you have to remember Boy is that IB's population is growing, and the electoral boundaries will shift and new constituencies will be set up, eventually IB will control what amounts to the politics of Thornaby/IB spending.
Hell we could even rename the place if we wanted, I like North Levenside, or West Stainton.

wheelz Posted on 15/8 15:49
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
..think you're nailed on for a ton here, DrBuckster, espesh when the tea-time crew hit the board....!


captain5 Posted on 15/8 15:51
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Wouldn't it be better if they could just make it the city of Stockton?? It's all Stockton anyway, but being part of a city of Stockton would be excellent.

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 15:53
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Not like you to be a peacemaker Capt'n.

You bang your head at the weekend?

wheelz Posted on 15/8 15:53
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Captain, put your wind-up toys away..........NOW!!




TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 16:00
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Yes that is a problem commi. My solution would be to build a big concil estate around IB, i'm sure that would please the residents!


Also there's room near Tesco for a Asylum seekers centre. Maybe an open prison too.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 16:00
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Ha, ha Commisar. I do see the anology, but I am being serious.

TheBoy why would anyone want to be associated with Yarm? It's a dump.

captain5 Posted on 15/8 16:01
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Don't know what you mean. All cities have their nice and not so nice areas. Just seems a bit snobbish when they could all have their own extra identity from being part of Stockton and probably some extra facilities thrown in.

They're in the same geographical area and the people there seem just as likely to commit crimes there wherever they live, just that in some areas they have been more successful at it.

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 16:02
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I'm not a massive fan of Yarm, but i'd hardly call it a dump.

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 16:04
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
For council purpose's we are part of Stockton, thats why we get shat on when it comes to funding.

wheelz Posted on 15/8 16:06
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
cap'n

"Wouldn't it be better if they could just make it the city of Stockton??"

Be better still to decree it the City of Thornaby, then Toytown could be our very own "ghetto-of-for-sale-signs"

captain5 Posted on 15/8 16:07
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
But Thornaby is in Stockton. The signposts tell most of the residents that and the other 40% can ask what they say.

ayresome_82 Posted on 15/8 16:09
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 16:12
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I.B. went immediately down in my estimation after moving there and having my car broken into in broad daylight when I was out walking the dog. I live in a secluded cul-de-sac and none of the neighbours claimed to have seen anything. It turned out to be one of their nephews from Thornaby who did it. Still waiting for an apology.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 16:21
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Turn off the A19 on to the A174 towards I.B. and the first sign you come to reads, 'Welcome to Thornaby on Tees.'

It doesn't have a footnote saying, 'By the way Ingleby Barwick is in Stockton.'

captain5 Posted on 15/8 16:21
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
You get crime everywhere so I am not sure what that has to do with anything.

If anything, it's better that they do it there, as they have less distance to travel home, so being kinder to the environment than if they had to travel long distances.

wheelz Posted on 15/8 16:26
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
@ captain, you liddle wind up twot, ya!!

GtBB Posted on 15/8 16:31
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Done tons of work at Ingleby Barracks over the years. The sister of a mate had just bought a place there. The three of us were having a quick gargle in a local pub and my mate asked what I thought of IB people, for some reason. I'm quite adept at telling people what I think they want to hear so I replied 'aspirational' but kept what I imagine they 'aspire to' to myself. Better car, bigger tv, ultimately worthless 'stuff'.

green_beret20 Posted on 15/8 16:57
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Wow, there's a ton of crap been spouted here and that's before I’ve even began.

The terraced street salt of the earth folk are worst for wanting impress the neighbours and know all about their neighbours. They’re sad b***tards, half of them never leave the end of their own street with the only stimulation being what the neighbours are doing. Most of them would gladly sleep in the middle of the street if it meant being closer to the neighbours.

In my experience given the choice Id rather live in the ‘keeping up with the Jones neighbourhoods’ than your average 'working class' street and I've lived in both.

Theboy, it’s the people who make an area. If Thornabys crap it’s because it is and that’s usually down to its own inhabitants.

It's funny mind how the attraction is still there for IB given how it's only going to get worse.

IB and Thornaby actually strike me as similar to say Eston/Normanby with your Southbanks and Grangetowns at the bottom end. Eventually the crap creeps in and takes both places down.



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thornabyred Posted on 15/8 17:28
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Right lets put a few points across about Thornaby.

Yes it has its run down areas,just like everywhere else in the world. It has a crap town centre and only 1 hotel.

BUT things are a changing.
The old mandale estate is mostly knocked and new "affordable" housing being built.Every house on the new estates is sold before it is built.
The old airfield is being developed (when wimpey get their fingers out)into another new "affordable" housing estate.
The old town centre will be getting demolished and replaced by a new town centre,modern design,state of the art bulding.Work starts in October this year.
The area from Lanehouse road upto IB boundaries has more trees and green areas than any other inner city type town in the north east.This is a fact not a myth.
Thornaby has its historic Village green and 12th century church which is in good repair and still in use.Riverside walks and 2 nature conservation areas which even people in Thornaby dont know exist.
As for IB ,nothing wrong with it,its just an extension to the boundaries.

TheBoy999 Posted on 15/8 17:38
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Green Beret i never said Thornaby was crap, i like it here or i'd move. I said it was better before IB, and it was.

Maccarone_Is_Me Posted on 15/8 17:51
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Never mind asking if it's Stockton or Thornaby, is it pronounced Bar-rick or Bar-wick?

wheelz Posted on 15/8 17:55
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Macca, its pronounced

Toy - Town


thesonofgod Posted on 15/8 19:18
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
Totally agree with everything thornabyred said.Lived in thornaby for over 20 years some areas are a bit ran down but there are a lot of nice areas as well,as for IB i have lived here over 7 years nowi moved here to buy a bigger house which was not really possible in thornaby and like the place a lot,years ago you came across the odd snob but rarely now its just another place to live with a mixture of expensive detached houses, semis ,terraced and flats.Most people who slag off IB do so without having ever lived here,when we first moved here friends of ours slagged it off and us ,7 years on they now live here.

jonny_giles Posted on 15/8 19:28
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
I had to laugh when i found out the houses next to that monstrosity of a driving range cost upwards of £400,000.

thesonofgod Posted on 15/8 19:32
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
i had a look around one of the Charles Church showhouses and some of the workmanship was sh7te

north_stand Posted on 15/8 19:45
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
with reguards to mail, TS17 Thornaby would get mail sent quicker, as IB is TS17, if you put Ingleby Barwick, Stockton or Yarm is would take longer, as if Stockton was put it would 1st get sent to stockton central sorting office then on to thornaby if the postal sorter was unfirmiliar with what box to put it in, yarm also has it's own box, so it would be sent to yarm 1st then on to thornaby ts17 sorting office.

DrBuck Posted on 15/8 20:38
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
"Turn off the A19 on to the A174 towards I.B. and the first sign you come to reads, 'Welcome to Thornaby on Tees.'

It doesn't have a footnote saying, 'By the way Ingleby Barwick is in Stockton.'"

It takes a graciuos man to admit he's wrong and I admit I was wrong when I posted the above. I've just drove along said route and the first sign you come to actually reads, 'Welcome to Stockton-on-Tees in the Tees Valley.'

However, when entering I.B. by this route the first roundabout has a sign. The right turn says Lowfields, the left turn says Beckfields, the straight ahead arrow says Other Villages!!! So, I drove straight ahead through an effing ugly load of brick built boxes, a Tesco supermarket, a poncy gym, yet another field being turned into money and guess what? No villages of any description.

What a depressing place.

ewe_boy Posted on 15/8 20:55
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
On the E/agents boards house prices appear to be similar between THornaby and I.B, all in TS17 ,or am i missing something ?

bubblesmfc Posted on 15/8 21:26
re: Ingleby Barwick - Stockton or Thornaby?
You must be easily depressed Dr if you find that depressing.