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woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 0:23
Kids who never quite made it

Boro Academy graduates who never quite made it but at one stage looked like they might:

Steve Baker (never forget how he marked out McManaman for 90 minutes at Anfield)

Craig Harrison (he showed some promise early on, probably would still be playing at a decent level if not for injury)

Anthony Ormerod (Looked a nice player in his 1st season, scored a cracker against Bradford on his debut)

Chris Freestone (Prolific at reserve level)

Andy Campbell (see above and gained u-21 recognition)

Carlos Marinelli (labelled as the next big thing)

Robbie Stockdale (Made the right back spot his own for a good few years)

Luke Wilkshire (Felt he had it in him if he was given more of a chance)

Phil Stamp (Looked tricky apart from his weight)

Mark Summerbell (Came through and was lively but was this due to him having it away with Robbo's daughter?)

Michael Cummins (Given his debut by Robson and then sold a few weeks later)

Jason Gavin (Broke into the team at one stage)

anymore??

GibbosEmpire Posted on 7/11 0:25
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Brian Close

danboro0902 Posted on 7/11 0:28
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Mcauley Culkin - Some good performances in Home Alone but never quite made as an adult

GibbosEmpire Posted on 7/11 0:30
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Gary Liddle,Gary Smith,Robert Earnshaw,Cameron Jerome(not yet),David Murphy.

Fully_Loaded Posted on 7/11 0:49
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would that be the rob earnshaw who has scored in every english league and is a regualar at international level?

Gary Liddle also, hes only 19/20 but was never expected to be a massive star, and has settled himself well at a decent standard

Cameron Jerome - not yet ?!?! hes only 20, and is an england under21 international, he hasnt made it but he certainly hasnt missed the chance

danboro0902 Posted on 7/11 0:51
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What about macaulay culkin how can you defend him?

GibbosEmpire Posted on 7/11 0:51
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Fully Loaded hes done the Premiership and was generally awful.Hes in the league hes best at.Cameron Jerome hasnt made it yet,he has to prove it.The rest are in leagues there comfortable in.

Rocky_Rhythm Posted on 7/11 1:04
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Phil Stamp deffo made it, as good as any average midfielder we've had over the last 20 years

Macaulay Culkin? Better left back as far as I'm concerned, although I thought that he played up front at Whitby

Mr_Incident Posted on 7/11 1:14
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Where is Phil Stamp now? Is he still at Darlington? Haven't heard anything of him for ages.

Fully_Loaded Posted on 7/11 1:17
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if thats the case GE, then ssurely every single player who has not played in the premiership or has not done well in the league hhasnt quite made it ?

Earnshaws not a brilliant player, i wouldnt say he was, but someone who has banged in 117 goals in his career and 9 international goals is a pretty good career

The only reason im defending this is because, the ones in the first post are players who were in the premiership, world at their feet and then fell off into obscurity, all of who are playing at a level so far off the premiership its unreal. Earnshaw wasnt even kept on by us, that shows we didnt think he would make it

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 8:10
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Stampy's at Darlo but isnt playing due to his lack of fitness

Some more...

Niklas Nordgren (Anyone remember him?? was a youth during our first run to the FA Youth Cup Final but threw a paddy and walked out of training one day and was released as a result)

Chris Brunt (Now making a career of it for Sheff Wed and Northern Ireland)

Chris Bennion (Where is he now?)

Richard Kell (Again, where is he?)

Phil Gulliver (Think he is at Rushden still)

Craig Dove (Rushden was the last club i remember him at)

Sam Russell (Got on the bench a few times, now starting for Darlo)

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borowally Posted on 7/11 8:17
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Stan Cummings,
Never quite scaled the heights predicted.

Sez_Les_Boro Posted on 7/11 8:20
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Where is McMahon, is he injured?

Michael Young from a few years ago looked like the next Stuart Ripley at one time.

Anthony Peacock as well looked a good player (FA Youth Cup winning team).

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 8:24
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Tony McMahon is injured.

I heard a rumour that at one time we had Michael Carrick on trial when he was just a kid??

Sez_Les_Boro Posted on 7/11 8:43
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Nicky Peverell was another one who didn't seem to make it. He was absolutely prolific in the stiffs.

Chutney Posted on 7/11 8:48
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I would imagine Luke Wilkshire quite enjoyed the failure of playing in the World Cup Finals.

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 8:49
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He failed to make it at Boro though.

Capybara Posted on 7/11 8:54
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Richard Kell is at Barnsley.

Phil Gulliver transferred to Hereford in August and is currently a first team regular. Doing quite well I believe.

Chutney Posted on 7/11 8:55
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Indeed. What consolation is playing Brazil compared to failing at Boro?

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 9:00
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Anyone remember a foreign youngster back in about 93/94 who was a striker called Salif Bagayoko? i think his name was... wonder what happened to him!

PumpingGnome Posted on 7/11 9:18
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The half human / half cow in Newcastle

alf_wood67 Posted on 7/11 9:32
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Salif Bagayoko ..Looks like he was playing for the French equivalent of Rochdale in 2005

Link: link

Max_Headroom Posted on 7/11 9:39
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Whatever happened to Corey Haim?

CheshireBoro Posted on 7/11 10:06
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Brian Close - I went to a reserve game against Man Utd at Altrincham about 2 years ago, evening match with about 1500 there.

Very young team with frankly nobody i had heard of at the time, and 2 down at half time.

We came back in the second half and won 3-2, and Brian Close was absolutely fantastic. Can remember talking to some United fans afterwards (and my Dad) and saying he looked like he "had the lot".

Not heard his name since, and just on the basis of that night, I am staggered!

Fatsuma Posted on 7/11 10:14
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Charlie Agiadis (?) Youth team striker

Steph McGargle (had a bad injury as he was about to break into the 1st team squad, I think)

Jamie Cade (reserve for Lewes in the Nationwide Conference South)

GillZean Posted on 7/11 10:18
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I believe Brian Close notched a few for Yorkshire.

The closest thing we have to a modern day Alan Ramage.

Capybara Posted on 7/11 10:18
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Brian Close is at Darlington.

Cade played the full 90 minutes for Lewes on Saturday (3-2 defeat at Histon).

boropatch Posted on 7/11 10:20
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Anthony Storey also at Lewes.

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 10:22
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Whatever happened to Alan Harrison?? he was a left back during our 1st FA Youth Cup run i think, he was released and then ended up at Darlo for a time i think?

Think Brad Jones will be one to add shortly, although he will always have his Uefa Cup semi final appearance to remember his time at Boro.

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Sez_Les_Boro Posted on 7/11 10:22
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Fatsuma - was Steph McGargle's injury done in a pre-season match with a foreign team (Italian I think it was) at the Riverside some years ago?

Spoff_MFC Posted on 7/11 10:23
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Mark Hudson? Think he went to and captained Chesterfield for a while. Not sure if he is still there though.

Technically, you could say Woodgate as he should have had 50 caps for England by now...

Capybara Posted on 7/11 10:23
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Hudson's at Huddersfield.

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 10:23
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Kilgannon? what was his first name? he made a break through under Robson.

Was it Sean?

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Boromart Posted on 7/11 10:40
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33 posts into this thread and no one has mentioned OWEN MCGHEE.

What about that irish lad who made his debut at left back against Derby and was shockingly awful?

The_DiasBoro Posted on 7/11 10:42
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What about whatisname. Time magazine's Man of the Century.

AtomicLoonybin Posted on 7/11 10:54
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Keith O'Hallerhan, Boromart.

One of Robbo's greater ideas. ' I know, I'll bring in an untested full back, play him on the wrong side against the best winger (Paul Simpson) in the division...job's a good 'un'. 3-0 down at half time, Simpson's scored one and made two. Keith gets hauled off.

I seem to remember his only other game was in a similar shellacking - 4-0, 5-0? - and that was the end of that.


Micky Cummins scored on the weekend for Darlo. That was another great Robbo decision. He bossed a game against Leeds on the Saturday for us - may have been his full debut -, and was sold to Port Vale on the Thursday.

Steph McGargle did his knee in that 'official opening of the stadium' game against Sampdoria where Boro wore the old lace up kits.

There's also Michael Barron - he's had a steady career with Pools, but he looked like the real deal at one time. Remember his diaries in the Fanzine?

And Ronnie O'Brien (? I think), who went off to Juve determined to prove Robbo wrong. Ahem.

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rob_fmttm Posted on 7/11 11:05
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None of these players mentioned came all the way through the Academy - most of them joined when it was a School of Excellence - even Andrew Taylor was at Boro before the Academy - in other words we may potentially see even better players in the future as they have been schooled at a more professional set up from being young school kids.

Robert Earnshaw was only here for a 1 week trial from Cardiff as a teenager. But maybe we should have realised his potential, maybe not it took him a long time to reach the Premiership before teaming up with Robbo again who was obviously still not convinced.

I was told that Salif Bagayoko came over to Middlesbrough last season for a visit. I once interveiwed him at the Mayo Guest House in Oxbridge where he roomed. He was a great young lad. Was sharing digs with a dance troupe and I remember he went along to support them when they were performing.

Steff McGargle was crocked v Sampdoria at the official opening of the Riverside - he was one of the players named as injured in the fax to the Premier League for the fateful non match v Blackburn. 3 points affair.

I'm going back to sleep now.

Sez_Les_Boro Posted on 7/11 11:11
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I remember that tackle on McGargle A_L because it was right on the touchline in front of where I was sat. To my little ol' unitiated eye, the dirty bastaad who did it went way over the top of the ball from the side, hit McGargle right on the knee and his leg bent sidewards like a set square.

To deliberately hurt a young lad like that was disgusting, to end his career scandalous. I always found it odd that more was not done or said about it.

Capybara Posted on 7/11 11:12
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OK then.

Brian Myton.

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 11:15
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Alan White - At Boston now aint he?

Ronnie O'Brien is now one of the best players for FC Dallas in USA.

Andy Todd - Made it big with Blackburn

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 11:16
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Andy Kelly - Believe he's now playing in Sweden

Salford_Boro Posted on 7/11 11:19
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Steph McGargle got his injury against Inter Milan pre season when Ince was still there I think. From what I remember it was a pretty bad challenge and he nmever played again

vanbasten8276 Posted on 7/11 11:20
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I was in Dublin over the summer and a taxi driver was really raving about Jason Gavin, saying he has matured really well!

He reckoned he should be in the Irish national squad - I suppose he couldn't do much worse!!

red_rebel2 Posted on 7/11 11:24
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Andy Fletcher
Charlie Agiadis
Nicky Peverell
Ian Arnold
Chris Freestone
Danny Graham
All resrves goal machine who never quite stepped up.

Christian Hansen
Paul Norton
Wes Byrne
Alan White
Micky Cummins

They were all the next big thing at one time.

North_West_Corner_16 Posted on 7/11 11:36
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Cherno Samba

Capybara Posted on 7/11 11:37
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Malcolm Poskett. That was another one.

GillZean Posted on 7/11 11:42
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What about that Lirpo Afol that a few on here were raving about?

Arrived with a bang in the Reserves, then nothing. Not a word.

boredreceptionist Posted on 7/11 11:56
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Anyone remember Andrew Mills, son of David Mills - think he got a football scholarship in America.

simmo3368 Posted on 7/11 12:38
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Surprised no one has yet mentioned Stephen Bell, RIP. He was some player for a 16 year old lad.

acklamlad Posted on 7/11 12:48
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The problem is that people go totally overboard when talking about the kids at Boro. Even in the current crop only Downing will make it big, although some fans are already shooting him down. Davies, Morrison, Taylor, Johnson and maybe even cattermole will end up in the lowere leagues.

grantus Posted on 7/11 13:18
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Peter Pan

borofan1986 Posted on 7/11 13:25
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Micheal Van Geele - remember him? He signed for us a few season ago as a 17 year old and was involved in the FA Youth cup winning side I believe.

Currently plying his trade in Belgium at the aptly named 'KFC Verbroedering Geel'

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 13:36
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Peter Masters - Currently playing on a scholorship in the States.

Chris Pennock - Currently playing on a scholorship in the States.

Danny Reed - Tipped for big things but got injured and had to quit.

Christophe LeMaire - Spent like a season here and got released.

Nathan Mulligan - Released and now playing for a local non league team.

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grantus Posted on 7/11 13:39
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That kid out of Different Strokes, Gary something?

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kermit_the_smog Posted on 7/11 13:43
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Whatever happened to Fabio?

Played one game and was awesome, never saw him again.

smoggieboy Posted on 7/11 13:47
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god theres too many to name we would be here all day

grantus Posted on 7/11 13:50
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You got somewhere to be like?

Kenny

wiganbo_ro Posted on 7/11 14:26
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In the mid 80's (might have been the 84-85 season) we won (or at least shared the FA youth cup) and the skipper was a lad called Paul Wratten. He was supposed to be the next big thing and signed for Man Utd. Never heard anything about him after that season. There was also a lad called Stephen Didlick. He was a full back and also played (with Wratten) at England U-18/19. Again disappeared never to be heard of again.
Someone mentioned Anthony Storey earlier in the thread. I used to teach at Spennymoor (Dave Parnaby's old school) and taught a kid called Anthony Storey. He was on the books at Chelsea to the time and I always wondered where he ended up. Just wondered if this was the same lad.

belle Posted on 7/11 15:18
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Stephen Didlick played up front and scored a lot of goals at youth level regularly featured in the gazette.

Ste_1986 Posted on 7/11 15:25
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Under Robbo he released a player...he signed for juventus a few days or weeks later...who was that ???

bevo2005 Posted on 7/11 16:29
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He was called Ronnie O'Brian (sp?). And i think he was a defender

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woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 16:57
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Ashley Winn, played for Boro as a young lad and then went on to play for Oldham, York and i believe he's in the non league now somewhere.

CAPSLOCK1 Posted on 7/11 17:19
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BRIAN CLOSE LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD TO ME.

GillZean Posted on 7/11 17:23
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DID THEY NAME YOUR STREET AFTER HIM???????

Graeme Murty?

Capybara Posted on 7/11 17:26
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Funnily enough there is a street named Brian Close. It's in Chelmsford. Or it was in 1975 when I went to see a friend of mine after we had just beaten Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Fascinating, huh.

one_job Posted on 7/11 17:59
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Rio Ferdinand had a trial, and Gazza when they were kids

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 18:18
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I remember when David Murphy came on the scene, though he was a really good prospect... guess he's doing okay for himself at Hibs.

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 19:13
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Peter Masters - Scholarship in US
Chris Pennock - Scholarship in US
Luke Wilkshire - FC Twente
Mark Hudson - Huddersfield
Anthony Storey - Lewes
Jamie Cade - Lewes
Nathan Mulligan - Norton and Stockton Ancients
Tom Orchard - Easington
Phil Stamp - Darlington
Brian Close - Darlington
Sam Russell - Darlington
Sean Kilgannon - Raith Rovers
Mark Summerbell - Landlord of pub in Yorkshire Dales!
Robbie Stockdale - Tranmere Rovers
Phil Gulliver - Hereford
Alan White - Boston
Greg Booth - Marske Utd
Adam McMahon - Marske Utd
Liam Smith - Marske Utd
Jamie Pollock - Spennymoor Town manager
Adam Clough - Spennymoor Town
Tom Jones - Spennymoor Town
Michael Cummins - Darlington
Michael Barron - Hartlepool
Jason Gavin - Drogheda
Chris Bennion - Dundalk
Brian Kelly - Dundalk
Alan Moore - Shelbourne
Keith Gilroy - Burton Albion
Steve Baker - Gateshead
Anthony Ormerod - Whitby Town
Aron Wilford - Whitby Town
Andy Kelly - Landskrona BoIS (Sweden)

More to come...........

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woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 19:16
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Good list so far Shaun.

Richard Liburd??

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 19:20
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Craig Nelson - Jarrow Roofing
Paul Stephenson - Sunderland Nissan
Chris Emms - Billingham Town
Christian Hanson - Gateshead

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Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 19:22
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Not sure Woody, last heard of at Eastwood Town a couple of seasons ago. Im off out now, Ill try to add some more tomorrow

longpig Posted on 7/11 20:15
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michael van geel, i caught him shoplifting whilst he was playing for the youth team, a representative from the club came down and begged us not to press charges.

cant remember if we did or not now.

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 20:18
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Might explain why he made a quick exit from the yoofs

bodger69 Posted on 7/11 21:12
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steve baker is not at guisborough a different steve baker who plays for hardwick social
alan harrison good mate of mine who doesnt play football anymore.badly badly broke his leg for darlo and cant play a high level anymore.has had offers playen at northern league but turned it down
and last but not least charlie agiadis . the adj was playen for my team the halfpenny and walked off when our manager made a terrible sub. working as a door 2 door sales men now. charlie was the one who got stewy downing started with the boro.
another friend of mine and best mates of charlie MICHAEL OLIVER.
played alot for the reserves with stampy, charlie paul norton the lot.went to stockport then darlo and played at wembley in the play off final for them. later went to rochdale and now playen for durham city x

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 21:42
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Oops my mistake about Steve Baker. Ive changed the list, hes also currently at Gateshead

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 21:49
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A few more after bodgers post

Michael Oliver - Durham City
Paul Crager - Bishop Auckland
Nicky Mohan - Bishop Auckland
Richard Ward - Bishop Auckland
Phil Gilchrist - Oxford
Andy Todd - Blackburn
Graham Kavanagh - Sunderland
Andy Campbell - Halifax

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woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 22:00
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Arthuro Bernhardt? i remember we signed him a few years ago but he never played a game for the 1st team.

NorfolknGood Posted on 7/11 22:00
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Christian Hanson went to Torquay on loan.
Him and another 5 players got shopped by a local hotel owner for having been out on New Years Eve, the night before a match which Torquay lost.
Him and one of the Torquay players, who happened to be carrying a long term injury at the time, both got sacked. The four first team players who weren't injured got a hand smacking. Coincidentally Torquay were having big financial problems at the time.

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 22:01
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Just found Richard Liburd

Now playing for Boots Athletic in the Nottinghamshire Senior League (see link dated 8/10/06)

Link: Liburd for Boots!

bodger69 Posted on 7/11 22:02
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shaun i was actually speaking to lennie lawrence in yarm recently currently drector of football at bristol rovers the weekend they played darlo he was out. i asked about richard liburd and his response was " was nice lad but knocked bout with the wrong crowd" lennie didnt even know where he was at nowadays. what is craig harrisson doing now then?

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 22:02
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Arthuro Bernhardt is playing in Spain for Alaves

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 22:03
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Craig Harrison is running some sort of rehabilitation swimming pool for dogs in the Newcastle area

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 22:04
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Forgot link

Link: Craig Harrison

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 22:05
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Wasnt quite an Academy kid but did anyone remember when we got an Argentinian on loan in about 98 called Gustavo Lombardi? he never kicked a ball for the first team.



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Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 22:07
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He did his cruciate while with us and was released. He then went on to play for Boca Juniors and Alaves and Salamanca in Spain. Not sure where he is now

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 22:14
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Carlos Marinelli - Where is he now? last at Braga i think

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 22:15
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Thats a more difficult one, as you said last at Braga last season. Cant find no trace of him this season though

Juninho_legend Posted on 7/11 22:18
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Is he still shoite?

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 22:20
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Andy O'Shea, i remember he got released by Boro a few seasons back. Last i heard he tried his luck in Sweden.

ashybillcroft Posted on 7/11 22:25
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Steff McGargle. I was told it was none other than Gian Luca who crocked him. Can anyone confirm?

Shaun71 Posted on 7/11 22:26
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Definitely not, McGargle was crocked v Sampdoria

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 7/11 22:28
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Andy Swallel (SP) - Now Coaches for the Boro kids centre of excellence

Goal_Scrounger Posted on 7/11 22:40
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I used to teach Adam McMahon, Paul Crager and Christian Hanson.


Adam and Paul were top lads.

Mad_Franck Posted on 8/11 8:55
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what about the young lad who played for us on trial in a testimonial against rangers? he was from peru or paraguay i think. he also scored in that game i think.

Capybara Posted on 8/11 9:02
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Excellent work Shaun. Though you didn't need to go quite so far to find Richard Liburd. His sally into the Notts League with Boot's was mentioned in the Everton programme.

Neil Illman, anyone?

kermit_the_smog Posted on 8/11 9:25
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Whats Fabio doing? Emersons cousin... who played like 1 game, at home vs Huddersfield? or some team. Had a stormer and never played again.

He team leader in Psyche or summet?

kermit_the_smog Posted on 8/11 9:25
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crock of piss

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AtomicLoonybin Posted on 8/11 9:29
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On the Liburd with the wrong crowd bit, I have a distinct memory of one game - may even have been the Crystal Palace game where he scored - and a bunch of his (I assume) mates were down by the corner of the Holgate. He kept running over to them during the warm up, laughing and joking with them all, and by god, they looked a rough lot!

Capybara Posted on 8/11 9:35
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There was an evening game down at Pompey in about 1993 when I turned up early enough (for reasons I won't go into) to see the team coach arrive and I realised I didn't recognise half of the faces peering out of the windows. I have a feeling we gave some players their debuts that night and one (Ian Johnson?) hit the bar early on. There were certainly some on view that night who hardly, if ever, played again. Shaun?

bear66 Posted on 8/11 12:30
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Owen - never forget the own goal against Newcastle in our 4-1 win.

Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 17:35
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I can remember the Pompey game, I was also there.

The team that night was

1. Steve Pears - Boro academy coach
2. Michael Barron (Hartlepool)
3. Richard Liburd (Boots Athletic!)
4. Robbie Mustoe (coaching in the US)
5. Nicky Mohan (Bishop Auckland)
6. Derek Whyte (last known as co manager of Partick Thistle before being sacked last season)
7. Curtis Fleming (Billingham Synthonia)
8. Graham Kavanagh (Sunderland)
9. Paul Wilkinson (reserve coach at Cardiff City)
10. Ian Johnson (last seen playing for Ashington in NL a few seasons back)
11. Craig Hignett (Spennymoor Town)
Subs:
Andy Collett (gk coach at Darlington)
Paul Norton (?)
Mark Taylor (?)

Neil Illman left the Boro to join Eastwood Town (former club of Liburd and Freestone.) He then went on to play for Plymouth, Exeter, Cambridge, Northwich Victoria, Doncaster, Frickley Athletic and Barrow. Last seen playing for Northwich Vic in his 2nd spell there in the 2nd half of the 2001/02 season

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Capybara Posted on 8/11 17:44
re: Kids who never quite made it

We probably saw each other then as there weren't many away supporters there. Funny, I always thought there were more new faces than that. As for Neil Illman, he had a spell at Stevenage more recently than you have there. I heard Derek Whyte had become a TV presenter after leaving management, but didn't he have a spell at Clyde as well?

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woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 8/11 17:54
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Thats another one, Andy Collett: Made it at Darlo but had to retire due to injury

the_stallion Posted on 8/11 18:05
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Mark Lester. After Oliver Twist, nothing.

Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 18:08
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Ah, I didnt realise about Stevenage, although he went back to Northwich after being released from Broadhall Way in 2002

Link: Illman

Capybara Posted on 8/11 18:10
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Actually, Illman's Stevenage spell was before his second at Northwich.

Yoinks!

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Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 18:10
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Found a bit more.

He went back to Eastwood Town in the summer of 2002 after his spell at Northwich

Link: Eastwood

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 8/11 18:14
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Kris Trevor? he was in the youth about 93/94

Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 18:20
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Kris Trevor playing for East Grinstead of all places 2 years ago

Capybara Posted on 8/11 18:21
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Crikey. Excelled yourself there, Shaun

boro365 Posted on 8/11 18:23
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stuart mcphee and stephen bell
both superb youngsters RIP Belly

bad management let these 2 go down the drain.
Does anyone remember jack charlton training the kids on sunday mornings on tyne tees tv, mcphee as a 13yrs dribbled rings round big jack, the camera crew were laughing like fook as big jack was humiliated :-)

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 8/11 18:24
re: Kids who never quite made it

I have a feeling David Knight will be added to this list soon.

Aussie Rhys Williams will be as he's being released at the end of the season.

Also think that 100k signing Ben Hutchinson will end up being released

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Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 19:56
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I think you could be right with David Knight. Not sure where youve got your Rhys Williams info from as hes got a bit on his contract and I know his good mate posts on here, and they know nothing. Ben Hutchinson is on loan at Billingham Synthonia and still has till 2008 on his contract.

Kris Trevors strike partner in the reserves at the time Paul Connor is currently playing for Leyton Orient

The bit about Trevor at East Grinstead is on the link. Played for the Three Bridges too by the look of it!!

Link: Kris Trevor

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 8/11 20:03
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Just a little tid bit i heard about Rhys Williams and im just speculating on Ben Hutchinson, it doesnt look that promising for him when he gets loaned out to a local non league team because he cant gain a place in the reserves.

Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 20:07
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Just found some more about Kris Trevor

He is playing for Horsham YMCA in the Ryman Senior League. See match report from last week

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Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 20:09
re: Kids who never quite made it

Oops link

Link: Link

Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 20:15
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So latest list

Peter Masters - Scholarship in US
Chris Pennock - Scholarship in US
Luke Wilkshire - FC Twente
Mark Hudson - Huddersfield
Anthony Storey - Lewes
Jamie Cade - Lewes
Nathan Mulligan - Norton and Stockton Ancients
Tom Orchard - Easington
Phil Stamp - Darlington
Brian Close - Darlington
Sam Russell - Darlington
Sean Kilgannon - Raith Rovers
Mark Summerbell - Landlord of pub in Yorkshire Dales!
Robbie Stockdale - Tranmere Rovers
Phil Gulliver - Hereford
Alan White - Boston
Greg Booth - Marske Utd
Adam McMahon - Marske Utd
Liam Smith - Marske Utd
Jamie Pollock - Spennymoor Town manager
Adam Clough - Spennymoor Town
Tom Jones - Spennymoor Town
Michael Cummins - Darlington
Michael Barron - Hartlepool
Jason Gavin - Drogheda
Chris Bennion - Dundalk
Brian Kelly - Dundalk
Alan Moore - Shelbourne
Keith Gilroy - Burton Albion
Steve Baker - Gateshead
Anthony Ormerod - Whitby Town
Aron Wilford - Whitby Town
Andy Kelly - Landskrona BoIS (Sweden)
Craig Nelson - Jarrow Roofing
Paul Stephenson - Sunderland Nissan
Chris Emms - Billingham Town
Christian Hanson - Gateshead
Michael Oliver - Durham City
Paul Crager - Bishop Auckland
Nicky Mohan - Bishop Auckland
Richard Ward - Bishop Auckland
Phil Gilchrist - Oxford
Andy Todd - Blackburn
Graham Kavanagh - Sunderland
Andy Campbell - Halifax
Richard Liburd - Boots Athletic
Paul Connor - Leyton Orient
Kris Trevor - Horsham YMCA
Andy Collett - Darlington goalkeeping coach
Ian Johnson - Last seen in the 2001/2 season playing for Ashington
Neil Illman - Last seem in the 2002/03 season for Eastwood Town
Dale Roberts - Nottingham Forest (on season loan to Alfreton Town)

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woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 8/11 20:21
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Marcus Laing - Norton and Stockton Ancients

Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 20:22
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I might be wrong woody but he was never part of the Boro academy, well certainly not the full academy (over 16's)

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 8/11 20:25
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Not sure, according to Norton's website.. he's an ex Boro youth player.

Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 20:29
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Shaun71 Posted on 8/11 20:30
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Found another one

John O'Loughlin - Cliftonville
Darren Mowbray - Working for Leeds Utd using Prozone (cheers J)

bodger69 Posted on 8/11 22:50
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charlie agiadis playing now and again for the beads and the links teesside league and im nt sure wot league the links are in

Capybara Posted on 9/11 18:22
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Ah, you got the Kris Trevor - Horsham YMCA link. He also played for Wick after East Grinstead I discovered. Seems to have played for most of the teams in Sussex!

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bandito Posted on 9/11 18:25
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what about Ian Arnold. He looked like E.T and played like him. Seem to remember him running like a duck and his head popping up and down like a kids toy. Cack

Capybara Posted on 9/11 18:30
re: Kids who never quite made it

Ian Arnold played for years in non-league. He was at Northwich in the Conference and also played for Barrow. Last I heard he was at Workington. I think.

jd1973 Posted on 9/11 18:51
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Ben Roberts?
Darren Wood?

Picto_Leng Posted on 9/11 19:17
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Click on the link below, then ,Publications, then MSS then the third article down entitled 'The Riverdance' there is a brief piece about Ian Arnold from when he was at Kettering in 1995.

Link: A Taste Of Glory

one_job Posted on 9/11 20:44
re: Kids who never quite made it

Nike cup winning squad 2003 went on to world finals in the U.S.A

Richard Gordon ?
Adam Clough - Spennymoor Town
Jonathan Grounds - Boro
Richard Langthorne ?
Sebastian Hines - Boro
Paul Jack - Guisborough town
Graeme Owens -boro
Joshua Walker -boro
Jason Honeyman -boro
Lee Cattermole -boro
John johnson -boro
Jamie Dewing -?
Tony Lee ?
Seb Coady ?
Ross Hughes ?
Aaron Hall ?

EdithGrove Posted on 9/11 20:50
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Quality thread this.

Has anyone mentioned Bontcho Guenchev ?

Not strictly one of our youth products, but a starring performance on trial in a reserve game in front of a big crowd. Boro didn't sign him and he promptly went off to play for some team that knocked Rangers out of Europe the following year.

Portsmouth 1993.......hardcore away support at that one. Me included !
Trained it down from Leicester and left the game at half time in order that I wouldn't have to stay the night in the streets of Pompey.
Eddie Large threw a wobbler because he couldn't get complimentary tickets !! Ha-ha.

Same season - I slept in a doorway in the snow following the win at Baseball ground !

Great days....

What's Eddie up to now ?

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 9/11 21:59
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Richard Langthorne is still at Boro one_job

The_DiasBoro Posted on 9/11 22:40
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Andy Todd mentioned a few times. Sounds like a 'made it' to me.

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 9/11 22:49
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This thread is on players who never made it at Boro though.

woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 9/11 22:51
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Darren Hollingsworth - York City
Neal Bishop - York City
Craig Farrell - York City

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woodys_wood_pecker Posted on 9/11 22:55
re: Kids who never quite made it

Anthony Peacock - Darlington

bodger69 Posted on 13/11 9:01
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sean _71 just thought id let you know michael oliver who i mentioned previously played for us yesterday. hasnt been getting his game for durham city under new boss richard ord so had a game. DIFFERENT GRAVY.Also charlie agiadis is considering coming out of retirement and playing for us next week in the north riding cup last 16. we won yesterday 14-0? oli got one but ran the show.

bodger69 Posted on 14/11 17:23
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anymore?

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 14/11 17:47
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Basil Stonehouse.

Beautifully crafted autograph, italics, didn't translate into first team appearances. Maybe a calligrapher now.