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DrBuck Posted on 18/12 15:32
Bizarre Work Practise!

The youger employees (all two of them) at work have been told that they can't take holidays over Xmas because those with children and family take priority.

Surely this can't be right?

towz Posted on 18/12 15:34
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It's not right

Grrreds Posted on 18/12 15:35
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legally - no

morally (if thats the right word) - maybe

skiprat Posted on 18/12 15:36
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Why should they be made to 'suffer' because of the other people's life choices?

the_broken_fridge Posted on 18/12 15:37
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morally is it wrong. Everybody is entitled to a Christmas, no matter what age or family situation.

My dad worked a fair number of christmases when I was young. Dissapointing of course, but that's the way it was.



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Lincoln_Exile Posted on 18/12 15:38
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Happens at work quite a lot but more of the lads volunteer for it than are forced.

GibbosEmpire Posted on 18/12 15:39
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But dont the young people have a family also-Parents,sisters,brothers,cousins,newphews,neices etc.Just because you dont have kids doesnt mean you dont have a family.

zoec Posted on 18/12 15:41
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What Lincoln said. I always volunteered to work over Christmas before I had a child.

the_broken_fridge Posted on 18/12 15:43
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I've worked over new year before, and one day at christmas.

it sucked balls, but I had no choice. I was 'rewarded' with a crate of Veba after one new year. yeah, brilliant.

The_DiasBoro Posted on 18/12 15:47
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GE's post makes more sense if you consider people with no kids but elderly parents living elsewhere.
Presumably they are included in the 'with family' category.

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DrBuck Posted on 18/12 16:13
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It just seems wrong to me to exclude certain people because of their age and lack of resposibilities. Can they do anything about it, apart from phoning in sick?

trodbitch Posted on 18/12 16:15
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I wouldn't expect to get Christmas off over anyone else. But I would appreciate if some of the people without young kids offered to do it instead of me. I've worked Christmases for over 10 years so I think I've served my time.

zoec Posted on 18/12 16:15
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Did they have their holidays cancelled, or have they only just applied and found that people with families have put their requests in first?

Nedkat Posted on 18/12 16:18
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Totally unfair ! People who have kids (and I'm one of them) made the choice to have them, it should never effect a managers decision in any issues concerning his/her workforce.

I like to tbink people would do it by the volunteer system, but I would never have the audacity to stop people's leave because they don't have kids.

trodbitch Posted on 18/12 16:20
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How would you decide if you had 2 people who wanted christmas off then? If neither would volunteer but only one had children?

captain5 Posted on 18/12 16:21
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Got to be fair minded, Trod.



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DrBuck Posted on 18/12 16:22
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Zoec, they were told that they couldn't take their holidays over this period. There are only five other office staff and one of them is on holiday!

piggy_nichol Posted on 18/12 16:27
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Do they get the public holidays off, Dr Buck?

Nedkat Posted on 18/12 16:30
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I'd look at past holidays, to see if either one had worked them or not. Plus, if it came down to it, I'd look at when the days off were requested, and if it really got sticky, I'd see which one had the $50:00 bill attached to it.

DrBuck Posted on 18/12 16:34
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Yes, they get public holidays. No, none of them have been off over Xmas before, they aren't allowed see? The days weren't requested Ned, because they aren't allowed to take them! Catch 22 springs to mind.

Nedkat Posted on 18/12 16:35
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That is a bit catch 22,ish. Who made that decision ? He needs a swift kick up the arse ...

piggy_nichol Posted on 18/12 16:36
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Well fook em I say. They will get xmas day, boxing day and new years day.

If they dont like it they have had all year to look for another job.

Kilburn Posted on 18/12 16:38
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Totally out of order.

The young employees ARE the kids to their parents, who will be just as keen to spend the time with them. More keen if they now live away from home, and don't get to spend as much time with them during the rest of the year.

Sound like a classic case of only half-thinking something through from whoever made the decision.

DrBuck Posted on 18/12 16:39
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SHE needs a kick up the jacksy! Only trouble is, she's on holiday!!!???

T4Tomo Posted on 18/12 16:57
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A diverse Workforce is the way forward. Get the Muslims and Jews in to work over Christmas and give them a couple of days off for Eid and Hanukkah.

wolfgang_nutsnbolts Posted on 18/12 17:02
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shocking, and very unfair.

YodaTheCoder Posted on 18/12 17:05
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On the other hand, I've been in a situation where me and a couple of other lads were fighting over who got to be on call/on site over Xmas. Treble time, fook all work to do, and no annoying relatives to endure...

MontagueLongfellow Posted on 18/12 18:02
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"My dad worked a fair number of christmases when I was young. Dissapointing of course, but that's the way it was."

I bet he volunteered fridge