| craig_pancrack Posted on 9/1 20:51 | |
| LONGRIDGE WOOD, MARTON - update | |
THE CAMPAIGN TO SAVE A COMMUNITY WOODLAND IN MARTON FROM MALLON'S BULLDOZERS GOES ON... | |
| Link: NEW WEBSITE - UPDATE AND FILM | |
| monstertriffid Posted on 9/1 20:53 | |
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cut it down and lets have some more houses marton moaners | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 9/1 20:57 | |
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we always need more houses, and what's the point in trees anyway? ugly things. | |
| Jonny_ov_boro Posted on 9/1 20:57 | |
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What you on monstertriffid? it's the last remaining field in marton and if it goes ahead well have 300 extra cars going down marton road, making the drive to town over 45 mins from 2 miles away. | |
| onthemap Posted on 9/1 20:58 | |
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Fookin developers. | |
| monstertriffid Posted on 9/1 21:00 | |
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so get a bike or move | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 9/1 21:00 | |
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fair play to them I say. the developers saw the opportunity and have gone for it. | |
| jd1973 Posted on 9/1 21:03 | |
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Get on the bus and read a book instead you moaning swines. | |
| beeline Posted on 9/1 21:11 | |
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Save the trees! Long live nimbyism! How can they build on Fairy Dell - l did a load of my teenage courting there. Actually all the fields which now have houses on in Marton were my courting haunts. --- Post edited by beeline on 9/1 21:12 --- | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 9/1 21:12 | |
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it's progress - it's the future. I can't wait. woodlands are full of doggers anyway. Who needs them? | |
| beeline Posted on 9/1 21:14 | |
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Only in your dirty mind. | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 9/1 21:15 | |
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nope. in woods across the UK, I read in the paper. much better to have a safe housing estate. | |
| beeline Posted on 9/1 21:16 | |
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safe + housing estate = oxymoron --- Post edited by beeline on 9/1 21:17 --- | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 9/1 21:17 | |
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certainly not. safer than a wood full of pervs. an executive housing estate would be much nicer. Look better too. | |
| beeline Posted on 9/1 21:18 | |
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You'd be at home in a wood full of pervs. | |
| Jonny_ov_boro Posted on 9/1 21:18 | |
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Those of you living in Central Middlesbrough or inner town areas, dont you think it doesnt affect you. People always move to new housing just cos its new, and theyll move from the inner town to this housing. Thatll leave you with -Unoccupied houses Which will be used by chavs/arsonists/druggies etc -cheap house prices Which will encourage prostitution economic decline | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 9/1 21:19 | |
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beeline. do you have any bait please?  this is daft. council being hypocritical, but what's new? --- Post edited by the_broken_fridge on 9/1 21:20 --- | |
| monstertriffid Posted on 9/1 21:19 | |
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Have you seen how many cars go though the lights on red at gunnergate lane every morning. Own the road as well the Marton moaners You can't close the bank we will have to go to the town like everybody else MOVE THEN | |
| jd1973 Posted on 9/1 21:20 | |
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Doesn't Middlesbrough suffer from those problems in abundance already? They should build on Stewarts Park next. | |
| beeline Posted on 9/1 21:21 | |
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Sorry, just used all mine! | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 9/1 21:22 | |
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I was hoping craig would stick around, but never mind! | |
| borobadge Posted on 9/1 21:25 | |
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i can understand the need to reverse the 'middlesbrough evacuation'... but building on locations such as this is both mindless and crass... there are more than enough brown field sites around middlesbrough to accomodate 'executive' houses....i thought that was the reasoning behind middlehaven, luxury / executive houses down by the river....its worked in the redevelopemnt of every other 'inner city' that its been developed in, from liverpool, to portsmouth from london to cardiff... ive said on here before, the area of teesside should be looking to plant thousands of trees, up to a million..someone rightly commented on that proposal that it would be a forest, correct..but it would be so much better to live in a wooded forest rather than a concrete jungle!... my old man and duchess are still living on valley road, i'm lead to believe that the whole area (grove hill) is to be demolished, i tell you now..no finer location exists in Middlesbrough for the construction of fine executive houses !!..easy reach of the city/town..good road transport links..a park on the doorstep and sporting facilities...!!... after all in 1880s it was the address to have in Middlesbrough Yorkshire, even the cricket ground was there amongst the Villas and grand houses of Grove Hill... SAVE THE WOODS.. --- Post edited by borobadge on 9/1 22:19 --- | |
| monstertriffid Posted on 9/1 21:27 | |
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Marton doesn't have chavs or druggies then have a look in the subways under the parkway then | |
| MsCurly Posted on 9/1 21:29 | |
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I remember when it was all fields. I remember when the farm on Gunnergate Lane wasn't an accumulation of houses. I remember swimming in my shorts and t shirt when they were just building the lake in Fairy Dell woods. I preferred it then. Are we really going to indolently let every pretty area in our beloved homeland turn into Ingelby Barwick (no offence Barwickers)?? Mr Pancrack......what is the local media's standpoint on this? | |
| beeline Posted on 9/1 21:35 | |
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I remember one day taking my girlfriend through the field where the Southern Cross now is and disturbing a couple at it. If it was you MsC, I apologise. | |
| MontagueLongfellow Posted on 9/1 21:44 | |
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"I remember swimming in my shorts and t shirt when they were just building the lake in Fairy Dell woods." Phwoar !!!! | |
| kev_2u Posted on 9/1 21:49 | |
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Well done Pancrack and the others for highlighting this. The council are a pack of halfwhits who have over the years distroyed most of Middlesbrough and now this. I'm only surprised they arn't encouraging Aldi to build on it. | |
| MsCurly Posted on 9/1 22:00 | |
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beeline, I was only a child when they built the Southern Cross. They used to have some sort of Summer Fete there in the carpark out back.....I remember winning a bunch of Radio Tees bumph for being the first to name all four members of The Beatles. There was an incident there many years later.......but that is a story for another day.  Once again Longfeeler.......sorry to disappoint, but I was only about 7ish at the time. If it makes you happy though, I'll go and hop in the Tees for a quick dip next home match? Do you mind if I wear full frogman suit though? --- Post edited by MsCurly on 9/1 22:30 --- | |
| red_ruth Posted on 9/1 22:13 | |
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I remember when gunnergate lane was one long road from hemlington cafe with hedges and farmland by the side of it.Fairy dell tarzee's, blue remembered hills etc Stomping ground of my youth, it all started to go wrong when they built the lake. Save the woods, whats left of them. | |
| MontagueLongfellow Posted on 9/1 22:16 | |
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Id prefer you wear your childhood shorts and t-shirt if still available, if not as near identical replacements will do fine. There again, rubber suit, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I sense a stirring...... | |
| monstertriffid Posted on 9/1 22:18 | |
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whats been built since the lake why didn't you start moaning then | |
| red_ruth Posted on 9/1 22:23 | |
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monsterT,the lake was the first thing to be built. We were playing in the woods one week and next week it was a building site. I moaned and complained then and, as you suggested, moved. | |
| onthemap Posted on 9/1 22:24 | |
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Afraid I sold my soul to Persimmon Homes and bought one of the houses on that farm on Gunnergate Lane. --- Post edited by onthemap on 9/1 22:25 --- | |
| monstertriffid Posted on 9/1 22:29 | |
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onthemap think of them poor horses | |
| onthemap Posted on 9/1 22:37 | |
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Nah she kept the stables for a few years after I bought. | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 9/1 22:46 | |
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Superb website and so many points really well made. We've lost so much of value in Middlesbrough even over the past 12 months - just walk down to Corporation Rd after the game and it is full of ugly holes where fine buildings once stood. We deserve so much better than this. | |
| The_GOAT Posted on 9/1 22:47 | |
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There seem to be loads of house for sale in Marton/Eagle Park way. Take the development elsewhere. I suppose the main reason for them not redeveloping other areas is the risk involved. I'm thinking along the lines of the 80's(?) St Hildas redevelopment. --- Post edited by The_GOAT on 9/1 22:49 --- | |
| onthemap Posted on 9/1 22:48 | |
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Agreed Rob, the next generation will blame us for demolishing half of whats good about the town. | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 9/1 22:53 | |
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It's a bizarre philosophy and one I cannot fathom. It was exactly the same for the wall at Holgate End - it was the council more than the developers who were against it staying - basically because it had been decreed in the past - again without telling any residents whatsoever. But why not simply reverse these decisions when they make no sense years later? | |
| MontagueLongfellow Posted on 9/1 22:57 | |
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To add a bit of balance tho the developers are also doing a site where tarrant (sp) street used to be at West Lane. | |
| onthemap Posted on 9/1 23:05 | |
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It'll have something to do with a budget somewhere. If Middlesbrough Council are like others around the country they will be in debt and have to claw money in wherever they can. None of it makes sense though, the new developments will be made to look as Victorian as possible with ornate lamps and fencing when if we just kept the originals ..... enough they dont listen - none of them give a toss as long as they turn a profit. | |
| monstertriffid Posted on 9/1 23:06 | |
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we have all been done by this council over the last 15 years They have wrecked this town.Look at the Newcastle.Stockton riverside (barrage)what have we got FA | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 10/1 0:02 | |
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viva la woodland! and cheer up Fridgey. Ms Curly -as for the local media...the Echo put an article in the next day after the film went online. The Gazette were doing a piece, asked for a pic of the shoot and wanted to put the film on their website. Of course we said yay! BUT THEN NOTHING APPEARED AT ALL ! From big interest to zero??? I enquired with the journo Sandy McKenzie about a week later (mid-Dec) and he had been told it was going in...but still nothing to date. I have wrote to the editor. over and out, special agent Peter Ancrack (you haven't seen me right...) | |
| Bri_Marwood Posted on 10/1 0:04 | |
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A tree in the middle of the 18th fairway at Cottingham once cost me a potentially record breaking round of golf. Have hated trees ever since. | |
| beeline Posted on 10/1 0:09 | |
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Mallon must have sent his heavies round. | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 10/1 9:12 | |
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I am cheered up craig. anyway good luck in your campaign here. Let's try and make Tees Valley a nice place to live. | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 10/1 17:28 | |
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a big HOOF up the council's nose ! | |
| The_GOAT Posted on 11/1 0:26 | |
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The plot of land belonging to the farmer at Baldoon (opposite side of the Parkway to the old Post House) is up for sale. Perhaps they will invest there. Perhaps not. They can charge £200,000 a house for Marton as opposed to £150,000 in Acklam. | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 11/1 0:51 | |
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what they need to do is start building on brownfield sites in the town....but do they need to build at all, Middlesbrough has a shrinking population. | |
| buffaloboro Posted on 11/1 2:54 | |
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Good luck to you mate. I hate to see this grim developments when there is little need. Brownfield sites are more expensive to develop and they need to work harder at making the Boro downtown more attractive to anyone over 35 . | |
| zaphod Posted on 11/1 3:13 | |
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I'd understood that Middlesbrough's population decline had stopped. 2001 census data shows a higher proportion of children and young people than the national average. | |
| Link: Boro Pop Stats | |
| MontagueLongfellow Posted on 11/1 7:01 | |
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Ill try again as obviously everyones too busy having a rant to let the facts get in the way. MontagueLongfellow Posted on 9/1 22:57 Email this Message re: LONGRIDGE WOOD, MARTON - update To add a bit of balance tho the developers are also doing a site where tarrant (sp) street used to be at West Lane. | |
| joseph99 Posted on 11/1 7:13 | |
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poo --- Post edited by joseph99 on 11/1 7:23 --- | |
| joseph99 Posted on 11/1 7:20 | |
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Middlesbrough council are simply corrupt. You only have to look at the quality of the workmanship of the walkway to the riverside to make you realise it has backhander written all over it. Normally sand goes in between the laid bricks and what is the purpose of those barriers in the middle of underpass apart from knocking out some unsuspecting 9 year old or recieving a Zidane-like chest thump for the average sized adult. My Dad always told me to vote labour, but I think there is is a now so much evidence to show that their long-standing presence in our council is a case of "familiarity breeding contempt". --- Post edited by joseph99 on 11/1 7:24 --- | |
| BobUpndown Posted on 11/1 8:15 | |
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it's only the few tiny trees they want to chop.. not the established trees.. let em build the houses and THE WALKOVER BRIDGE.. several people have been killed on that bit of road because there is no bridge. when people bought those houses they had chance to see that the ground in front of them was open to building regs.. | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 11/1 11:08 | |
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The trees are 20 years old - the film doesn't really do it justice because it is winter when in leaf it is a thriving young wood and it covers a pretty big area. The people that moved in originally on the Marton side of Stainton Way were definitely not shown any plans indicating housing development. Exactly the same thing happened to me at Ayresome Park - none of us were told that planning permission had already been granted to demolish the Holgate Wall. | |
| extratomato Posted on 11/1 11:24 | |
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I live 200m from this site and do not wish it to be developed. However my house site was once a farmers feild so I am careful not to be too hypocritical. However from reading all the councils mailshots and press coverage, the council seem hell bent on developing it primarily as they would get funding from the developer for other areas ie. a crossing over Stainton Way. However I understand this crossing will only be a "pelican" type not a bridge or anything substantial. Further more there is already a subway under Stainton Way but the council refuse to dig it out. This was put in by the original developers many moons ago, but the council say it will attract anti social behaviour. | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 11/1 11:26 | |
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subways do attract antisocial behaviour. | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 11/1 11:34 | |
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A good point raised by a resident on the film is that there is no anti-social behaviour in the wood because the kids look after it as their own play area. They've even built their own ramps for bikes etc on the fringes. By the way I have no axe to grind with the council etc but seeing as the Gazette have yet to publish their article on this I thnik it right to plug it here. | |
| beeline Posted on 11/1 12:27 | |
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Apparently the article has been held up because Mallon hasn't proof-read it. | |
| boroproud Posted on 11/1 12:29 | |
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absolutely unbelievable on 2 points firstly,the council once again totally ignoring the local enviroment and doing exactly as they please. secondly,it seems the residents main gripe is with the extra traffic,take that lady who works at the hospital for example,she said it takes her an hour to get to work through the traffic now,FFS, how far is it from Marton to the hospital?has she never heard of walking or getting a bike?i'd stake a weeks wages that she is one of those who HAS to use the car to take the kids to school ,to go shopping etc! | |
| the_broken_fridge Posted on 11/1 12:35 | |
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More interestingly... this from the gazette today... "visually stimulate the area" Righto. That'll be a first for an aldi. Store makes fresh requestJan 11 2007 Sandy Mckenzie, Evening Gazette Aldi is making a fourth bid to get planning consent to develop the North Riding Infirmary site in Middlesbrough. Its latest application - likely to be determined in April by Middlesbrough Council's planning committee - again includes proposals for an Aldi store, a second retail unit, and a budget hotel with 55 bedrooms. The development could create 25 jobs. But elements of the design of the building have been altered from the previous application. More glazing and brickwork have been introduced into the design of the development and a lighter cladding is proposed on other parts of the building. In a design statement accompanying the application, Aldi says the new scheme seeks to visually stimulate the area. "The building is contemporary in its form and would also employ use of good quality materials. The carefully considered use of cladding and vertical glazing creates visually stimulating elevations that promote the scheme. "By utilising a corner rotunda feature the cumulative effect is a building that is worthy of its gateway status." | |
| craig_pancrack Posted on 11/1 15:00 | |
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There's food and there's Aldi food... | |
| signal Posted on 11/1 16:02 | |
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i've not seen the film yet - i can't access it at work but the site is brilliant and raises some very valid points... none of which will be taken notice of by the berks at the council, whose vision of a new Middlesbrough is to ruin the areas plus points before adding to them. an example is victoria gardens or "central square" it looks great, sure. but there are other areas of town whose development needs were greater than the part of the park infront of the library. | |
| MontagueLongfellow Posted on 11/1 17:20 | |
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LUCKILY ITS NOT AS ONE SIDED AS PEOPLE MAKE OUT AS BROWNFIELD SITES ARE ALSO BEING DEVELOPED, FOR EXAMPLE THE SAME DEVELOPERS ARE ALSO DOING A SITE WHERE TARRANT(SP) STREET USED TO BE. --- Post edited by MontagueLongfellow on 11/1 18:49 --- | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 11/1 18:30 | |
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What are you trying to say Montegue? There will be a massive brown field development going on soon in Gresham ward soon. It could last some time. The only problem is it's not brown field yet as its bricks and mortar - people are living there. It smacks of the late 1960s all over again. | |
| MontagueLongfellow Posted on 11/1 19:01 | |
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What Im saying Rob is that not only are greenfield sites being developed brownfield(sorry if this isnt being used as an accurate term on this occassion) are also. Yes its where existing homes are at the moment but you are talking very old beyond economic repair properties being replaced with modern dwellings. If people dont want developers to build on greenfield sites nor to replace delapidated properties with new ones where do you suggest the demand for housing be satisfied ? West Lane has had 2 or 3 streets demolished with new properties currently being constructed, Im assuming that once complete the next 2 or 3 streets will be demokished and built on and so on until the area has been modernised. | |
