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Buddy Posted on 15/3 14:35
New biofuels plant announced for Teesside

Might be old news up your way.....

Link: at Wilton

colinfearon Posted on 15/3 14:43
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I work in the automotive indusrty, in my opnion and and a lot of others in the indusrty, Bio Fuels a re a fillip a rest gap, The future is most liley to be fuel cells, to make them work you need Hydrogen, to make that at the momnet you would use fosil fuels. The answer to make cheap Hydrogen without creating more Co2 is to use Nuclear Energy, not something that the green lobby like to admit, they really need to start have a grown up debate about this and stop the BS about alternative fuels, it isn't going to replace fosil fuels but Nuclear could.

The_DiasBoro Posted on 15/3 14:47
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That's the end of the rainforests then. Anyone want to adopt an orang utang?

BoroMutt Posted on 15/3 14:49
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Is it house trained and can it do hand signals when I'm driving?

captain5 Posted on 15/3 14:58
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I can sell you a Borored.

Already got him practiced on the 'Right Turn Boz' manouvre.

boksic Posted on 15/3 15:01
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er, here's a (not so) radical idea - diesel engines will run on second hand vegetable oil with virtually no modification. Why not divert all this silly effort from biofuels and hydrogen into just PRODUCING MORE VEGETABLE OIL.

Hydrgoen, what a joke of an idea, lets use loads of fule and power to produce a gas that goes pop or bang on contact with any spark or flame.

BoroMutt Posted on 15/3 15:27
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Fact 1 - petrol is more explosive/flammable than hydrogen.

Fact 2 - You can run a diesel on used chip oil for nowt (you are supposed to tell the taxman I believe) it's best if you strain it first to prevent bits of cod getting stuck in the injectors.

Buddy Posted on 15/3 15:34
re: New biofuels plant announced for Teesside

Is there any particular reason it has to be used chip oil as opposed to the fresh stuff?

billybalfour Posted on 15/3 15:35
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hydrogen has to be stored at certain temperature i believe otherwise it becomes volatile

billybalfour Posted on 15/3 15:36
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We drove to the south of france on crisp and dry, we encountered no problems

beeline Posted on 15/3 15:38
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In France, tens of thousands of people are already running their diesel motors on cheap vegetable oil - illegal, but since when has that stoppd the french motorist - I mean, if you can get away with parking on a roundabout, why not.

The main benefit (apart from the cost) is that when you start up you get a lovely smell of barbecue from the exhaust.

BoroMutt Posted on 15/3 15:40
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"Is there any particular reason it has to be used chip oil as opposed to the fresh stuff?" - no, except that used is free!

buffaloboro Posted on 15/3 17:32
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They use it in fuel over here ( about 10% I think ) - makes no difference to performance.

I think an issue with it as an environmental benefit is the use of fertisler ( sp ? ) etc to produce the crop in the first place.

There was an article about it over here and the farmers get huge subsides that actually make it a very expensive fuel option.

the best form of fuel conservation ? don't use it in the first place..

Please about the jobs for the area .