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guyb Posted on 8/5 8:54
Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Documentary on Grangetown's second most famous export.

Tonight at 11.05pm.

guyb Posted on 8/5 14:50
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huth

ChrisTheRed Posted on 8/5 14:51
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and........................................................................................you thought you'd tell us this because????

fatharrywhite Posted on 8/5 14:52
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reading some of the previews he doesnt exactly fill himself with glory and in fact makes a complete t1t of himself

jaffa127 Posted on 8/5 14:52
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because he is a complete ....

captain5 Posted on 8/5 14:57
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guy - you do realise this isn't a BBC show you're mentioing don't you??

guyb Posted on 8/5 15:04
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Yes Cap. A publicist scorned and all that. I would also recommend tonight :-

Badger or Bust - 9pm Sky One
The Seven Sins of England - 10pm C4

sasboro Posted on 8/5 23:06
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i hope he has some new material without swearing

jofus53 Posted on 8/5 23:22
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went to see him about 6 years ago. moody old basstad when he gets heckled, he must expect it. watched a bit of this, his wife is thick as fook.

kermit_the_smog Posted on 8/5 23:33
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ahahaha that geezer in just his boxers and electronic tag

Towell Posted on 8/5 23:35
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G Town looked loverly

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 8/5 23:43
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I worked with that lad who said 'there's a bed upstairs.'

Didn't do him much good by the looks.

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jofus53 Posted on 8/5 23:47
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oh dear chubby.

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 8/5 23:47
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Micky Sheiran sat next to Roy as well.

Not bad heah, G/Towner and a South Bank lad on the tele.

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 8/5 23:49
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He's coming over like a right c@nt, but thats Chubby.

GibbosEmpire Posted on 8/5 23:51
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Has he always been that racey?

As in the Black/Pakistani jokes.

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Stepper_T Posted on 8/5 23:56
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There is no getting away from the fact, he is a tvvat, and a horrible one, too.

acklam_lad Posted on 8/5 23:57
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Is it true he has a house in Redcar on Thrush Road? (Nice name i know ;-))

doddsysdds Posted on 8/5 23:58
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he used to be funny...not as much now ...but i cant knock his views on why shud we pussy foot about upsetting asylum seekers ...does that make me a racist ???? i dont think so

kazzaxxx Posted on 8/5 23:58
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stepper, he is not a twat, he is great, and even better live

flakey_scrotum Posted on 8/5 23:58
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agreed Stepper!

GibbosEmpire Posted on 9/5 0:00
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How can he say anywhere above Watford is behind the times?

Or is that a joke?

Cheeses_Christ Posted on 9/5 0:00
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so his excuse for being racist is us oop north are a bit "behind the times"

Speak for yourself you fat unfunny co(kend

flakey_scrotum Posted on 9/5 0:01
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you can't reason with a thick coont like that!

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 9/5 0:02
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That was sh@t.

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:03
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ooohhh bernard manning tommorow ...bring him on ...

Towell Posted on 9/5 0:03
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He's just thick nothing more.

fatharrywhite Posted on 9/5 0:04
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i was surprised at just how racist his act has become. i saw him years ago (going on 20 years ago) and dont remember him doing that kind of stuff and his early videos didnt either (at least not as strong and 'hateful' as it seems to be)

not seen any of his DVDs for years though so maybe he has changed...very much for the worse by the looks of it.

Always thought he was 'above' the likes of bernard manning and chubby brown was his act rather than who he actually is but it would appear that isnt the case.

Hasnt done himself many favours but then again i doubt it will affect is popularity as most of the stuff he was saying was getting big laughs

flakey_scrotum Posted on 9/5 0:05
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showed himself for what he is......a thick, racist, bigotted tw*at!

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:05
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im not saying all muslims are terrorists ...i am saying all terrorists are muslims ....class ...i love him all over again

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 0:06
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It's alright having a controversial act, being a racist vvanker in real life is another.

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:08
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was he really that racist ???????????or was he saying what a lot of people really think

GibbosEmpire Posted on 9/5 0:09
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What alot of people who read the Sun think more like.

I thought he was quite good,then he got onto the racist stuff,and it made me cringe.

flakey_scrotum Posted on 9/5 0:10
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makes no difference what people think...he's a bigot, racist....call it what you want.....like minded people can take the same label for me!

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 9/5 0:12
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I seen him a few times in the early 70/80's and once in the 90's but he was never that racist.

Was that mainly to win over new fans who lover to hate anything that they see as not British. It came a cross that he was running at a loss at some of them shows.

P.S. It cost me 50p to get into the Normanby the first time I seen him.

comejoiners Posted on 9/5 0:12
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all you people slagging him off
how many of you have been to see him and come out complaining and youve all obviously watched him tonight
just like downing
local lad does well and you slag him off jealous or what you 2 faced cants

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:12
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right ....but am i the only one who thinks theres far too many asylum seekers ....

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 0:13
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I find any comedy funny, but when you come across as believing that stuff in 'real life' it's a different matter.

He's gone down in my estimations tonight.

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 9/5 0:13
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By the way guyb, whats Grangetown's most famous export?

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:15
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if someone come on here n told an english man ..irishman ...and scottishman joke no`one would bat an eyelid but mention the p word and everyones up in arms ...wheres the differance

kahunaburger Posted on 9/5 0:21
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What i have heard of him and his sons that he is a bit of a tvvat, didnt he have some trouble not so long back in Redcar involving his sons and baseball bats.

Agree with you stepper T gone down in my estimation too, never thought he actually was a racist.

comejoiners Posted on 9/5 0:21
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doddsy
exactly right
and chubby is only saying what everyone thinks about asylum seekers

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flakey_scrotum Posted on 9/5 0:22
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actually some people may be offended at the Irish tone of such jokes....so not only are you wrong....you can't spell differEnce!

....and the 'P' word is equally offensive to asian people as the Irish jokes are to Irish people....but don't expect a dimwit like you to understand that!

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:24
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not everyone obviously ...i love paying my taxes week in and week out to keep em ...it really cheers me up when i see exactly how much is being taken off me

flakey_scrotum Posted on 9/5 0:26
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......keep paying those taxes and pay for their keep!

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doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:27
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flakey i love you really ..thnx for correcting my spelling ...so why can u call a scotsman a scot with no reaction whatsoever but not a pakistani gentleman a paki .

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:29
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and why did u edit a minute after yr post ...wasnt a spelling mistake was it

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 0:29
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It wasn't much different.

flakey_scrotum Posted on 9/5 0:30
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if I have to spell this out....you really are stupid....to call a scotsman a scot - is not a derogatory term....but the 'P' word is....it is offensive and labels asian people!

can't be bothered to elaborate further....as will only be wasting my time!

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:31
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ok nite nite xxx sleep tight

juninho_the_legend Posted on 9/5 0:32
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Im not racist but have to admit chubs is hilarious, people on here are too pc, just because you find him funny it doesnt mean you are going to vote B N P.

sasboro Posted on 9/5 0:33
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"and chubby is only saying what everyone thinks about asylum seekers"

..errr like who? certainly not me.

I think chubby's problem is that he is stuck in a time warp when the black and white minstrels were about. has anyone close to him told him that society is changing.

seriously, if you laugh at those racist jokes you are in the wrong.

with regards to irish jokes, i'm old enough to remember when irish people were the butt of jokes as being a bit backward..times change

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doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:34
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just out of interest before you turn in old bean ...is it not derogatory (excuse spelling)to scotsmen because you say its not

Huntley_Boro Posted on 9/5 0:35
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Has anybody on here not took into consideration all that channel 4 up for big brother racism Sh_$t and that they have picked a controversial comedian re-edited the whole of the time being with them and tried to make themselves look anti racist?

just a thought?

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:36
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so sas is it ok that yr kids if you have any mate arent allowed to do a nativity for fear of upsetting the muslims in his/her school

Gillandi Posted on 9/5 0:36
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As problems go, being stuck in a time warp is one of the better ones. Especially when you are worth a few million.

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 0:37
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Shortening Pakistan into Paki in itself is not racist. However, how the word has been use in a derogatory way about all Asians is.

kazzaxxx Posted on 9/5 0:40
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dunno what all he fuss is about, maybe crude but can still laugh at his jokes

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:42
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still piss meself laughing at rising damp ...was it racist ???yes but funny

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 0:45
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It was made in the 70s ffs.

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:48
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and ?? so was fawlty towers did u not laugh at that ...very racist by the way

kazzaxxx Posted on 9/5 0:49
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and love thy neighbour, didnt you laugh at that

sasboro Posted on 9/5 0:51
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he belongs in the era of stuff like til death us do part?

Link: .

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:56
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not at all ....funny is funny to me thats all ...did u not laugh at fawlty towers then.. the germans...recently voted the funniest of them all ..we must be a nation full of em or is it ok to laugh at germans

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 0:56
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There is a difference between controversial comedy and your real life feelings. I find any comedy funny, but when you become obviously racist in real life, it's not on.

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 0:59
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dont think i ever said i was racist ..just find the amount of asylum seekers sickening and i laugh at funny jokes

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 1:01
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I was calling Chubby a racist, I went to see him last year and loved it.

The problem is, I thought it was an act, it wasn't.

doddsysdds Posted on 9/5 1:08
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fair enough mate i just dont think me being offended by the amount of immigrants swarming this country makes me into some sort of racist ...i just think what the country will be like in a hundred years from now thats all ...makes me cringe and glad i wont be around to see it ...and thats my rant for the night...nite

sasboro Posted on 9/5 1:17
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i just dont think as a stand up comedian you can be like that on stage and not think the same off it. Where does the inspiration and imagination to find those jokes come from?

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 1:24
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I went to see Ricky Gervais last week. He made fun of fat people, disabled people and even people suffering from Aids and Cancer. It was funny.


I am fairly sure he doesn't laugh at those things seriously, on reflection, in real life.

Chubby Brown made it quite clear he is a racist bigot.

BeerForDolphins Posted on 9/5 1:36
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I think Chubby is a typical 50 something, Grangetowner...and why should he try to be anything else?

Is he not allowed to feel the way he feels? Why can't he be a racist if he wants to be? (not that i actually think he is) Would he tell you that your beliefs are wrong? I wouldn't have thought so...

It was easy to pick up on Chubbys reaction to the "banning christmas toys" story on the front page of a paper? Why was it on the front page of a national newspaper? It wasn't written specifically to try to ascertain Chubbys view of society. It was written because they knew that the general newspaper demographic would agree with the story..

My reaction would be exactly the same to the story..why should my views, opinions, religion, music, dress...whatever.. be classed as offensive to the point of having that particular part of my life removed from society.

I think Chubbys views are borne out of frustration..I didn't sense any malice or hatred to anyone of any particular race. His frustration is that he has grown up in a society that has, in his opinion, changed for the worse and not because of the influx of asylum seekers...or Asian people..or black people..or chinese people...but for the willingness for some sections of "his" society to change to accomodate everyone and everything else except, what he would class to be "normal" working class population of the country...his people, if you will.

It was very interesting in the comment he made on Frank Skinner...he said "black people aren't the problem...it is the white bastwards that I have a problem with"..and that, I think sums him up. I have NEVER in my life heard anyone from a non Christian background complain about Christmas and the use of the term, or, to be honest anything that you hear reported in the papers (Baa Baa black sheep, blackboards etc)...the ONLY people who think it is an issue are the local councils, the advisory boards..the government think tanks. THAT is what his frustration is..and that is the major problem in this country which Chubby focusses on.

BeerForDolphins Posted on 9/5 1:46
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This what I find really hard to understand.

Stepper, how can you on the one hand, say that jokes about people who are terminally ill and physically disabled are funny...yet you can criticise Chubby for making fun out of race related issues.

I'm just interested in how you morally weigh up things? For instance, there are more fat people than Asian people in the country, so on a scale, Gervais is off the chart, isn't he, for offending people?

Grumpy_Paul Posted on 9/5 1:46
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BeerForDolphins

One of the best post I have read on this board for ages.

A little bit of perspective at last

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 1:53
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ffs

number_10 Posted on 9/5 1:58
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doddsysdds, are you even aware of what an asylum seeker is?

It is someone seeking asylum because they have been oppressed and persecuted, to the distance of fearing for their lives in their native country, due to political leanings, religion or whatever.

So they have to leave, and try to make a better life for themselves or their family. Wouldn't you do the same?

They've been through enough without small minded bigots and closet racists like yourself and your little britain attitudes.

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 1:58
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Comedy is just that. Real life is different, Chubby Brown is a racist,

BeerForDolphins Posted on 9/5 2:20
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Stepper..."ffs"....why "ffs"?

To me, and this is my opinion, on which you are completely entitled to have your opinion on.

I just think it is really easy to trot out outrage at an individual when you (not you personally) have never taken the time to actually examine what your own personal make up is.

I don't know what I would class myself as! If I laughed at a Chubby joke would someone call me a racist? maybe..I don't think I am. If I laughed at a Gervais joke about cancer would someone call me thoughtless and insensitive? Maybe!...I don't think I am.

I would probably be a little hurt if people analysed me based on listening to a couple of minutes of dialogue. I can't stand the whole chav culture...what does that make me? I have taken pictures of my daughters when they were playing together in the bath?...am I a peadophile? To some people I would be. Generally, most modern music leaves me cold?...am I culturally barren?

You see what I am trying to get at?

Chubby might very well be a racist bigot...but then again, If you had the chance to speak to every member of an ethnic minority that had met Chubby, they might say he was a lovely fella?

I can't judge Chubby...I can't judge you and I certainly wouldn't call someone something based on five minutes of TV. I can try to understand why some people are like they are...but at the end of the day, they are what they are.

If you want a "ffs"...ok, ffs...he is only a comedian.

AberdeenDarlo Posted on 9/5 3:14
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Chubbys certainly not intelligent, although obviously quick witted, but to be fair to him how many people out of grange town are? My mate and i watched the programme tonight and both of us brought up in decent areas in the north found him to be hilarious. He is pure genius when it come to comedy and to be fair i am sick and tired of the pc brigade and enjoy watching someone who is prepared to speak his mind whether it be his own opinion or that of a actors. He is a breath of fresh air and i enjoyed it. The narrator was a cock and fed it into peoples minds that what was said was unforgivable but at the end of the day i don't agree with any of the racist comment Chubby says but i do find em funny! Plus i find in all social standings in life people are racist. Many of my mates tell racist jokes and whilst i originally frowned on them i gave up long ago and whilst i wouldn't tell any jokes of that kind i would certainly appreciate them!
Give old chubs a break. Probaly most of u condecending fcuks laugh and tell racist jokes urselfs although that would be in private and just amonst friends so no one else can be affected by it. Give it a rest boys and gals and just enjoy him. He may be the last ever to open his mouth and spout sh ite which people actually can enjoy!

Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 9/5 8:23
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I thought it was a complete stitch up by Channel 4. What could have been a very interesting profile, and a look at how a comedian can reach the top of his game with no TV or mainstream exposure.

Instead it became an attempt to smear a man as a racist because he thought that there were too many asylum seekers in this country.

bororeddaz Posted on 9/5 8:26
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Switched it off after 30 mins.
Was expecting a profile on Roy, instead the Louis Theroux wannabe got under my skin

Chutney Posted on 9/5 8:29
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"was he really that racist ???????????or was he saying what a lot of people really think"

FFS?

Capybara Posted on 9/5 8:34
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Just a smiley and a piece of message board shorthand and it's still withering

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mr_r_soles Posted on 9/5 8:48
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I,ve always found him pretty funny, never offended by what he says, if people dont like it then people dont have to watch him, he is thick though.

BoroRigsby Posted on 9/5 8:48
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The reporter was trying so hard to be Louis Theroux....exactly the same style of interviewing and drawing conclusions at the end, he was not even trying to hide the fact. The difference was that he wasn't very good at it.

sasboro Posted on 9/5 8:52
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Would be interesting to know what percentage of his live audience is black or asian. I work in a company that has many black and asian people in the office. if i started telling some of those rasist joked i would be sacked. because he is comedian he can hide behind the stage act to say what he thinks about blacks and asians. dont think he was stitched up by channel 4, i thought he got an easy ride and was left to say what he wanted

Buddy Posted on 9/5 9:04
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It always amazes me when people cite Fawlty Towers as an example of amusing racism, rather than an amusing cariacature of a paranoid racist.

kermit_the_smog Posted on 9/5 9:11
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Chubby made no bones about his intelligence, he even said he was a thick fooker who got in lots of trouble when he was young and got no 'o' levels.

He spent a lot of time with roughian types and in out of prison. Said he educated himself and came from a rough background. There's then no surprise given some of views, where he's from and what era he's from.

I don't think he was particularly racist as some people are making out, telling a racist joke to me doesnt make you racist, its a JOKE.

Granted, he's more of a racist than a lot of people on here but he seemed far from the kind to go round shouting abuse at them and kicking them in. He seemed more frustrated at the fact you have to pu$$y foot around them and can't say anything anymore and this is OUR country etc. If they wanna live here they should live like us etc.

Doesn't surprise me really as I kinda feel the same, its shocking how you cant say black board anymore, its shocking apparently you cant say bah blah black sheep in school anymore!!

its an absolute farce, some people on here are the same and get the absolute hump over the slightest of racial jokes, but women jokes/fat jokes/recently deceased jokes etc are ok.

cullen_lives Posted on 9/5 9:31
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Chubby is a legend.

Flakey Scrotum a bell end.

littlejimmy Posted on 9/5 9:32
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A fat bloke, a woman and a corpse walk into a bar...


Of course, Chubby has every right to say what he thinks, and others have the right to say what they think about what he says. I bet the man doesn't even know the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant, let alone a legal immigrant. But at least he admits he's thick, I suppose. Is ignorance an excuse?

Kilburn Posted on 9/5 9:51
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Chubby Brown is successful because he appeals to a sizeable audience of people who are racist and bigoted.

It is played down, but around 10% of the voting population of most European countries, including the UK, hold broadly facist views.

That's a fair-sized audience to aim for, which is exactly what Chubby does.

Buddy Posted on 9/5 9:57
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"Doesn't surprise me really as I kinda feel the same, its shocking how you cant say black board anymore, its shocking apparently you cant say bah blah black sheep in school anymore!! "

That's fair enough though. I sacked someone just last week for asking for a black coffee. It's just blatant racism and there;s no need for it. "Without milk" is the correct phrase.

ChrisTheRed Posted on 9/5 10:16
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There is nothing wrong with Chubby or his act unless you are over-sensitive!

speckyget Posted on 9/5 10:26
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Talk of Chubby always puts me in mind of Howard Brenton's infamous play 'The Romans in Britain'. Not because the flying helmeted one is into hot centurion-style buggery action you understand, but because like 'Romans' the furore he generates and the attendant free speech debates tend to mask the mediocrity of the entertainment on offer.

Not sure that anything has the power to cause genuine outrage anymore. But rubbish is rubbish.

Revol_Tees Posted on 9/5 10:33
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I think most of us know people like him in real life. I know I do. I get on fine with a few people whose views are just as bad, but we can still have some good craic about the Boro etc. Nevertheless, I find all the stuff about immigrants and asylum seekers absolutely embarrassing. And all this about how you allegedly have to "tip-toe" round minorities is based purely on a stubborn, defiant lack of empathy and understanding IMO ... and a tendency to swallow right-wing tabloid propaganda.

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Sleaford_Socialite Posted on 9/5 10:38
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mick_dundee_Snr Posted on 9/5 10:35 Email this Message | Edit | Reply
Chubby last night on TV

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And yes i do realise theres another thread already on the subject but i want my own so there.

I thought he stuck to his guns well and raised some important and worthy points regarding politicial correctness and over sensitivity being one of the root causes of racism in this country.

Now dont get me wrong i think at times last night he showed the town up with his plain as you like racist comments. Stuff like "i wish they'd fook off home" is unnacceptable. However i dont feel that there is a differnece between telling a joke about a fat bloke eating too many pies and an indian or pakistani bloke eating too many curries. This is where i thought he made some valid points and he showed up that over sensitivity thus making people tred on eggshells whenever there is a hint of racial tension is in fact one of the causes for racial tension.

I'll probably get slated for this but i'm going out anyway so carry on.

--- Post edited by mick_dundee_Snr on 9/5 10:36 ---

BoroE17 Posted on 9/5 10:51
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

I personally thought it was one sided and didn't put Chubby in a good light.

The journalist who made it was a Louis Theroux wanna be from the south. He was narrow minded in his judgments, and he had already made up his mind about him. And I feel the programme was edit to make him come across as a right twat, although sometimes Chubby doesn't help himself.

I found it ironic that the night before me and my wife had watched the Little Britain Comic Relief DVD where most of their material was homophobic and racist, but because it's for a middle class audience then it's witty, a parody and clever. Similar could be said of Ricky Gervais.

When Chubby does the same material to a working class audience he's a sexist racist.

There is a comedy rule for one group and a totally different one for others, yet they still peddle the same material.

green_beret20 Posted on 9/5 11:03
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

I’ve never really seen the point of getting upset over what a comedian says or not. They live and die by their own material and he’ll keep going as long as the crowds turn up so he must be doing something right.

Besides that, the majority of his audiences strike me as mostly working class ‘salt of the earth’ folk, the kind of people some of you lot on here romanticise about in your frequent left wing rhetoric discussions.

ChrisTheRed Posted on 9/5 11:05
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Agreed BoroE17!!

All he does is call a spade a spade! Doesn't mess around and that is ehy he is funny! Tells it like it is!

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 9/5 11:07
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

The Bloke's as sound as a pound [FACT]

Call's a spade a spade and does not Sugar coat nothing

Man after me own heart

Bit of jealousy about in life because of the way he has made his Wedge

Loved the bit were he said " I'm not racist and think all Muslims are terrorist's"

"But ain't it funny how all terrorist's are Muslim's "

Class !

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/5 11:09
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"I found it ironic that the night before me and my wife had watched the Little Britain Comic Relief DVD where most of their material was homophobic and racist"

So your claiming that well know homosexual man Matt Lucas is homophobic ?

stipey Posted on 9/5 11:11
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

why am i not the least surprised that liddle thinks a racist t_wat is 'sound as a pound'

trodbitch Posted on 9/5 11:11
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"Doesn't surprise me really as I kinda feel the same, its shocking how you cant say black board anymore, its shocking apparently you cant say bah blah black sheep in school anymore!!"

Is there any truth in these myths? God knows where my little lad got the lyrics to the song bah bah black sheep that he sings. Maybe he's been attending some sort of b n p rally after nursery.

Turner_86 Posted on 9/5 11:14
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

I knew there would be a century about this today.

The fact is, there will always be those who like him and those who dislike him. Neither will ever convince the other they are wrong.

The other fact is, he's made a damn good living off what he does, by people paying good money to see it, so if he is a big fat racist biggot, so are the millions of people who have bought his dvd's and books.

I personally think he's fantastic. He's a top bloke, who has strong oppinions because of the way he was brought up, he just exaggerates his oppinions on stage as an act. And he doesn't say anything worse than what many people on this massageboard post day after day, or think day by day, he just has the balls to say it.

--- Post edited by Turner_86 on 9/5 11:15 ---

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/5 11:15
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Of course it's true Trod, it was in The Daily Mail!

Oh and please dont refer to him as "my" little lad, this infers ownership and detracts from his right to be known as an individual rather than some shared ownership property between you and your life partner.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 9/5 11:16
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Look Stipey

He ain't racist he is a comedian for FFS

He has plenty of black friend's

He is like every other man in the street who pay taxes

He does not like ayslum seeker's coming to this country and teking the Pish

Coz basically that's what 90 % of them are doing

Savvy.

trodbitch Posted on 9/5 11:18
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

lizard

littlejimmy Posted on 9/5 11:21
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"He does not like ayslum seeker's coming to this country and teking the Pish

Coz basically that's what 90 % of them are doing"



Comedy genius.

littlejimmy Posted on 9/5 11:23
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"He does not like ayslum seeker's coming to this country and teking the Pish

Coz basically that's what 90 % of them are doing"



Comedy genius.

Mattyk50 Posted on 9/5 11:23
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

he is a horrible racist old man.

his reasoning for it? "we're a bit behind the times up here"

erm... no we're not, just you chubby. and a few people on this message board by the sounds of it.

--- Post edited by Mattyk50 on 9/5 11:24 ---

Turner_86 Posted on 9/5 11:27
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

The only racist thing he said off stage in that program, was that he didn't like asylum seekers, and he didn't like things like stopping Christmas presents because it offends other religions.

I for one completely agree with him. I don't agree with everything he says on stage, but it's an act, intended to make people laugh, and make him money, and it does all of those things.

--- Post edited by Turner_86 on 9/5 11:28 ---

gravy_boat Posted on 9/5 11:27
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

'Doesn't surprise me really as I kinda feel the same, its shocking how you cant say black board anymore, its shocking apparently you cant say bah blah black sheep in school anymore!!'

FFS. And your experience of these situations is?

Brainwashed.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/5 11:28
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"he didn't like things like stopping Christmas present because it offends other religions. "

But that doesnt happen !

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 9/5 11:29
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Hey mattyk50

You need to lighten up a bit mate

And go and have a lay down in a darkened room for a few day's

Turner_86 Posted on 9/5 11:30
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

It was on the front of the newspaper he held up ffs. True or not, he's still going to be annoyed about it just like I was when I read it.

Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 9/5 11:30
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

green_beret20
"Besides that, the majority of his audiences strike me as mostly working class ‘salt of the earth’ folk, the kind of people some of you lot on here romanticise about in your frequent left wing rhetoric discussions"

Excellent point. Various suspects on here love to go on about the oppression of the working class, but then conversely are outraged and disgusted by the views and opinions held by the class they love to romanticise.

trodbitch Posted on 9/5 11:32
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"The only racist thing he said off stage in that program, was that he didn't like asylum seekers, and he didn't like things like stopping Christmas presents because it offends other religions."

I wouldn't say not liking asylum seekers was racist. I don't know th e reasons but there is a lot of misinformation out there that is used to justify this dislike. As for stopping Christmas presents, when did this happen? I honestly can't think of one situation where political correctness has affected my life.

"It was on the front of the newspaper he held up ffs. True or not, he's still going to be annoyed about it just like I was when I read it."

True or not, you are still going to be annoyed by it? Personally, if I think something is not true, it doesn't annoy me one tiny bit.

--- Post edited by trodbitch on 9/5 11:33 ---

Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 9/5 11:34
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Turner86
"The only racist thing he said off stage in that program, was that he didn't like asylum seekers"

How is that racist? Asylum seekers are not a race. They come from all over the world.

Turner_86 Posted on 9/5 11:35
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

I'm not saying it happened trod, infact I might not have the exact story correct, but there was something along those lines on the front of the newspapare he was reading.

Now whether the newspapaer was correct or not, it's a controversial story which he had an oppinion about, and most people would share the same oppinion.

Just like rumours of Muslims asking for England flags to be taken down during the world cup because they find it offensive. True? I don't know, but I know what I'd say to any Muslim who felt that way.

Turner_86 Posted on 9/5 11:36
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

True Archie, maybe racist was the wrong word. It could have been deemed offensive because of the way he said 'f**k off home'. But you just proved my original point even more anyway.

Mattyk50 Posted on 9/5 11:37
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

another one from the "hes only a comedian, hes not racist" chubby brown"

"if i came home and there was a (someone other than white)in my house, id tell him to get the f*#k out my house... we dont mix"

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/5 11:39
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Go on amuse me, what newspaper. Not The Daily Mail perchance ?

I once read "Bus found on the moon" in the paper, however I didn't believe it, or are you that gullible?

trodbitch Posted on 9/5 11:39
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

All I'm saying turner is it sells papers but it just isn't true. Why would a muslim not be happy about the english flag? You can be muslim and english at the same time so it doesn't make sense.

The way I see it, no-one has the power in this country to really ban anything. If christmas presents or blackboards where banned, who would do that?

Buddy Posted on 9/5 11:39
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"I for one completely agree with him.....but it's an act, intended to make people laugh"

So it's the act you agree with?

Mattyk50 Posted on 9/5 11:40
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

... oh and that wasnt his act, was sat chatting to his mates in the gym (while having a sausage sarnie, WTF?)

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/5 11:40
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"Just like rumours of Muslims asking for England flags to be taken down during the world cup because they find it offensive"


Prove that happened !

Turner_86 Posted on 9/5 11:42
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Read my post again. I said I didn't know it was true or not. But I'd be pretty angry if it was.

Prove it didn't happen, I bet you can't either.

trodbitch Posted on 9/5 11:44
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

I've just searched ever news site on the web and found no evidence of it. Unfortunately, I can't link to web sites that aren't there.

If someone is going to say something it true and get outraged at it, I think the burden of proof is on them to show the rest of us where it has happened.

trodbitch Posted on 9/5 11:46
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

I tell a lie, I found one link, but you need to remove the spaces from the url as it's classed as bad language:

http://www.b n p.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=19

captain5 Posted on 9/5 11:46
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

'Prove it didn't happen'



LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 9/5 11:48
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Mattyk50 ?

Can i take it he's not on your christmas card list then ?

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/5 11:50
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Surely christmas card lists have been banned by "the PC brigade" ?

Chutney Posted on 9/5 11:52
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

"He ain't racist he is a comedian for FFS"

Ought I to do it again, Capy?

speckyget Posted on 9/5 11:53
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Whoa Turner, if ever I'm bang to rights you're the feller I want in court backing up my alibi.

littlejimmy Posted on 9/5 11:53
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

If anything did happen about England flags, I imagine it was some over-zealous council mandarin who wanted to ban flags for some ridiculous reason or another (maybe including offending "minorities". Why Muslims would want to ban the flag is anyone's guess.

As for hatred of Asylum seekers not being racist in itself, well that's true. But it's still a form of bigotry that should be challenged.

Oh, and I'm sorry if I upset anyone. I'm just expressing my opinion - saying it how I see it - saying what I think. I thought that was to be encouraged.

captain5 Posted on 9/5 11:55
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

I don't see the problem.

He's a racist comedian. To categorise him as something else is plain silly.

A lot of his fans are racists, overtly or otherwise; drunk or sober.

It's a good fit.

Excuse me while I pop out to to buy his latest DVD for Capy's Christmas present.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 9/5 11:55
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

It happened alright

and certain local council's banned taxi driver's from flying them from their car roofs [FACT]

littlejimmy Posted on 9/5 12:01
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

That's another thing our cuddly bigots can't distinguish between - Political Correctness and Health and Safety.

And another thing - if these working class people had been given a proper education like me, they wouldn't be racist.

Revol_Tees Posted on 9/5 12:08
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Most of the prejudice directed towards asylum seekers is rooted ultimately in racism. The (false) claim that they're mostly bogus and/or scroungers could in theory be applied to groups such as millionaire tax dodgers, benefit fraudsters, bankers, businessmen, the Royal family etc but it is very rarely applied at all, let alone with the same venom. Why? Because they're not foreigners. And incidentally, Jews aren't a race either - they, like asylum seekers, come from all countries and all backgrounds - but it is widely accepted that to characterise Jews as crafty, conniving scroungers would be racist. In fact, it would be almost Nazi-like, wouldn't it?

Lennie_Godber Posted on 9/5 12:08
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

its all much ado about nothing. as long theres discussion on all sides, everything is fine. there was an interesting thing on before it called the seven sins of britain, i think, which set out to show that things have always been the same, quoting something about dutch asylum seekers in the 16th century, just the same feelings as people have now.

Vinny_Garstroke Posted on 9/5 12:14
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Lennie, that Essex gobshyte on that programme who was whining about when he got his head caved in looked like a fatter version of the Pink Ponce.

Lennie_Godber Posted on 9/5 12:21
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

must admit, i cant remember what the pink ponce looks like, but that bloke was annoying me.

trying to think of something snide to say to you, but it just wont come to me.

BoroPhil Posted on 9/5 13:33
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Of course he is racist!! can't believe people are even arguing about it.

a couple of examples:

- all immigrants should fit into 'our' way of life. why, exactly?
- us (whites i imagine) and muslims simply don't mix. errr, speak for yourself you idiot.

his jokes were just nasty.

absolute utter cretin of a man. i was hoping he might be slightly different from the character but no chance.

when he was sat round that table with his two cretinous mates i would have quite happily seen that table explode. scum.

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 13:40
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Trodders, most of these stories about blackboards/England flags etc are just myths perpetuated by the Mail. But I know for a fact (as I was there) that a Local Authority residential home removed a nativity display for fear of offence. So it does happen.

captain5 Posted on 9/5 13:43
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm

Just be thankful they let you return to live with your family.

Stepper_T Posted on 9/5 13:59
re: Chubby on Channel 4 tonight at 11.05pm