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A_New_Era Posted on 29/6 23:17
Pete Doherty

such a pity hes a prik. Because hes a hell of a musician

george123 Posted on 29/6 23:18
re: Pete Doherty

a hole of the top order

Space_Face Posted on 29/6 23:19
re: Pete Doherty

He was woeful at Glastonbury. IMO of course.

A_New_Era Posted on 29/6 23:22
re: Pete Doherty

he wasnt very good no

susy Posted on 29/6 23:25
re: Pete Doherty

The music he performed was great tonight, I dont like him cos of all the stuff about him and drugs in the papers etc but tonight he is coming over well imo

george123 Posted on 29/6 23:27
re: Pete Doherty

always has a fag in his hand - yeuuch roll on july 1st

GibbosEmpire Posted on 29/6 23:29
re: Pete Doherty

YTS at QPR and nearly signed Pro contract with them till he turned his back on football and went into Music.

Rodney Marsh was his footballing Idol aswell.

ElvisRamone Posted on 29/6 23:30
re: Pete Doherty

Well there you are then...

susy Posted on 29/6 23:37
re: Pete Doherty

Ive never liked this bloke, he has actually impressed me tonight, both vocally and also in his interview.

Space_Face Posted on 29/6 23:41
re: Pete Doherty

Arcade Fire. Now that's a performance.

boringblock_21 Posted on 29/6 23:50
re: Pete Doherty

I never liked him to be fair, the drugs n all that. And I didnt think i'd like him when he was in the green room, infact I planned to turn over when he came on.

BUT, he impressed me also tonight. Won me over abit with the performance and the interview. Shame about the excesses in his life though, but then who are we to judge?

ElvisRamone Posted on 29/6 23:54
re: Pete Doherty

Musically I don't think he's anything to shout about.

Joe03 Posted on 30/6 0:24
re: Pete Doherty

I agree about the Glastonbury performance, but i went to see Babyshambles at the Town Hall and he was brilliant.

A_New_Era Posted on 30/6 1:03
re: Pete Doherty

when i saw them at the cornerhouse, it was an amazing gig

jam69 Posted on 30/6 1:36
re: Pete Doherty

hes not a bad bloke,but not very talented,but the papers seem to like him

eio_boro_eio Posted on 30/6 9:05
re: Pete Doherty

Does anyone know the name of the song he sang on rossy last night?

A_New_Era Posted on 30/6 9:52
re: Pete Doherty

not sure of the name, would recognise it if i heard the name tho. Sure J.R said it was off the new album?

Was really good tho, remember when he played Beg Steal and Borrow on their the last time he was on and it was cracking. Would love to see him do an acoustic set

borobuddah Posted on 30/6 10:23
re: Pete Doherty

He was on great form, what an artistic bundle!

YouAreBoateng7 Posted on 30/6 10:28
re: Pete Doherty

The song was called 'Lost Art Of Murder' and it was brilliant.

uncle_harry Posted on 30/6 10:39
re: Pete Doherty

I dont get all this 'tormented genius' stuff nor the extreme dislike neither - he's very very ordinary in terms of his music and his public persona,

A_New_Era Posted on 30/6 10:41
re: Pete Doherty

He seems really odd when it interviews. To me its sortof as if he seems really uncomforable with the whole thing, hes always figiting (sp) and just doesnt seem at ease. Doesnt say alot either

YouAreBoateng7 Posted on 30/6 10:47
re: Pete Doherty

At the start he seemed really uncomfortable and then eased in to it as it went on and was quite funny.

Winston_Spangler Posted on 30/6 12:19
re: Pete Doherty

Liked the joke about him being a talented lyricist and Britain's number 1 Irish impersonator. Thought he came across quite well. Good song. Arcade Fire were good as well. Meant to be amazing at Glasto.

bigsiggy Posted on 30/6 14:01
re: Pete Doherty

he's a very tallented bloak, he should get shot of babyshambles though the guitarist and drummer are very poor.

Download his acoustic lul a by demo's and the free wheeling pete doherty and you'll be impressed two very good collections of songs.

he's bloody fantastic acoustic live as well.

jam_the_parmo Posted on 30/6 17:31
re: Pete Doherty

GibbosEmpire Posted on 29/6 23:29 Email this Message | Reply
re: Pete Doherty

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YTS at QPR and nearly signed Pro contract with them till he turned his back on football and went into Music.

Lol who told that because it's really not true. He was a very good Footballer but not at that level and Music and Poetry was always his main love.

eio_boro_eio Posted on 30/6 17:33
re: Pete Doherty

yeah the tune was great, cheers youareboateneg.

YouAreBoateng7 Posted on 30/6 18:19
re: Pete Doherty

Heres a link to the song if anyone fancies another listen.

Link: Pete Doherty - Lost Art Of Murder

BillBones Posted on 30/6 18:22
re: Pete Doherty

He wasn't a YTS at QPR. He used to edit their fanzine like.

toddymfc50 Posted on 30/6 18:24
re: Pete Doherty

he gets slagged a lot but i like him myself
think hes a nice bloke if you watch him but if you read the papers then of course hes the devil isnt he
shambles are no libertines like

toddymfc50 Posted on 30/6 18:24
re: Pete Doherty

he gets slagged a lot but i like him myself
think hes a nice bloke if you watch him but if you read the papers then of course hes the devil isnt he
shambles are no libertines like

Juventus3 Posted on 30/6 18:24
re: Pete Doherty

I heard he scored a hat trick in the 1994 FA Cup Final and then turned down a 29 million pound move to Barcelona to focus on his music

borodrew Posted on 30/6 18:27
re: Pete Doherty

interesting if the libertines reform.

wonder if they can get back to anywhere near the genius, and my favourite ever album, up the bracket.

longpig Posted on 30/6 20:27
re: Pete Doherty

his song was ok but not great, his interview reminded me of david byrne circa 1981.

bblf Posted on 30/6 20:47
re: Pete Doherty

Being a board "oldie" I was convinced he ws a total cock end and had no talent(Sun 2006).
Saw him at Glastonbury and really enjoyed the songs he played,if thats him at his worst he is probably a very good musician/singer.

Hammo_MFC Posted on 30/6 21:18
re: Pete Doherty

Anyone know where to download the song???

Hammo_MFC Posted on 30/6 21:43
re: Pete Doherty

Anyone???

GibbosEmpire Posted on 30/6 21:45
re: Pete Doherty

Jam_the_Parmo

He was at QPR he said his Idol was Rodney Marsh on one of Woss's previous shows.

And he said he was at QPR in a Magazine,or the same show,can't remember.

bigsiggy Posted on 30/6 23:55
re: Pete Doherty

I've never heard of him being a qpr yt. He used to produce his own fanzine called somet like all quiet on the western lane.

Even if he did say it, that means very little, well known that pete doherty has a habbit of making stuff up. in one interview he claimed to have wrote dreaming of you, (the korrel) which is utter bollox.

Joe03 Posted on 1/7 1:02
re: Pete Doherty

The Coral*

kazzaxxx Posted on 1/7 1:10
re: Pete Doherty

dont like the bloke at all. but i like his new song

BillBones Posted on 1/7 12:33
re: Pete Doherty

Having had an impromptu kickabout with him a few years ago, I find it very hard to believe he was at QPR!

bigsiggy Posted on 1/7 12:43
re: Pete Doherty

mp3 rip of lost art of murder:
http://sendmedeadflowers.com/2007/06/pete-doherty-lost-art-of-murder-live-on.html

not done by me.

think there are some other pete demo's on the site an all.

Tom_Fun Posted on 1/7 15:21
re: Pete Doherty

To say his music is "very, very ordinary" is complete tosh. It might not be your cup of tea but just look on the 'Top 3 Bands' threads to see how much they (The Libertines) mean to some people.

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ferencpuskas Posted on 1/7 16:04
re: Pete Doherty

As an 18 year old, Pete Doherty and The Libertines mean an awful lot to me and those my age. Older posters may look upon him with scorn, but from my generation his music was so important. Before them British music had no balls, Coldplay, Travis etc. He's one of my heroes. I met him before the Babyshambles gig last year and he had a quick chat with me and my friends and was a lovely chap.

BillBones Posted on 1/7 16:08
re: Pete Doherty

But they released their first single when you were 13...

The_Commisar Posted on 1/7 16:10
re: Pete Doherty

Before them British music had no balls,

<cough>
Look, go do some reading on the following bands
The Clash
The Sex Pistols
Billy Bragg
and
The Factory Records label

Anyone of the above know more about balls, attitude and conviction than Doherty.

BillBones Posted on 1/7 16:12
re: Pete Doherty

They weren't really that relevant in 2002. Anyway, The Sex Pistols were a manufactured band.

The_Commisar Posted on 1/7 16:14
re: Pete Doherty

Indeed the Pistols were manufactured and so what about it ?
Relavent ?
No Clash or Pistols and the music industry, especially the indie music side of things, simply wouldn't exist. Doherty and his ilk should be down on their knees giving thanks.

BillBones Posted on 1/7 16:15
re: Pete Doherty

Furthermore, many at Factory were up their own arses. That's why The Smiths didn't want to sign for them.

JamiePollocksShadow Posted on 1/7 16:15
re: Pete Doherty

I reckon he probably meant in recent years, which is quite true. i mean, Starsailor were meant to be the new great band..thats how bad music had become!


First saw The Libertines at the cornerhouse in 2002! a waste of a great band. Babyshambles are good but the musicians are terrible. Dirty Pretty things are just awful.

onetoomany Posted on 1/7 16:17
re: Pete Doherty

Mick Jones has worked with Pete from near enough the begining! So Pete obvioulsy has a lot of respect for the Clash and Mick Jones for him.

BillBones Posted on 1/7 16:17
re: Pete Doherty

I think he meant there was no one relevant around in 2002. That's the point I was trying to make.

You can tell an eighteen year old that The Pistols are still relevant today but the fact that John Lydon is into real estate takes the shine off it a little.

onetoomany Posted on 1/7 16:18
re: Pete Doherty

^^^^

Agree. And the fact he went on I'm a celebrity, hardly rock and roll

Mr_Incident Posted on 1/7 16:18
re: Pete Doherty

Yes, to be fair to ferencpuskas, I think he was referring to the spell immediately before The Libertines turned up, which was the most barren and turgid spell of popular music I've known in my short existence. Starsailor says it all. The Libertines have never meant a crumb to me and never will, but I could see how they were at least slightly refreshing at the time.

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Rod100 Posted on 1/7 16:20
re: Pete Doherty

ill listen to anything.
and having listened to the babyshambles and the libertines i cant see what all the hype is about. IMVHO they are shyte.

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onetoomany Posted on 1/7 16:23
re: Pete Doherty

Just download the Shaken and Withdraen sessions.

Will answer all the questions about how good a lyricist the man is. I've met him a couple of times and he has always been funny, witty and polite.

ferencpuskas Posted on 1/7 16:32
re: Pete Doherty

'Before them British music had no balls,'

Christ, I meant in the vacuum left by Britpop, not since the dawn of popular music.

'But they released their first single when you were 13...'

...Prompting me and my 11 year old little brother to go halves on Up the Bracket when it came out. Played it to death we did.

Shouldn't have mentioned my age really, knew I'd be a target for the ageism on this board. 'Yeah! He's only 18. That must mean he thinks John Lydon's that bloke off 'I'm a Celebrity...' Give me a break please. Not everyone my age wears tracksuits and batters grannies.



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BillBones Posted on 1/7 16:37
re: Pete Doherty

No offence intended Ferenc. Probably my favourite Libertines gig was at the ICA on The Mall in 2002. It was so weird as it was jubilee day. From Ricky Martin on the big screens to the ICA and The Libertines. GUess who were top of the bill? That's right, The Eighties Matchbox B Line Disaster.

The_Commisar Posted on 1/7 16:39
re: Pete Doherty

FP, fair enough, thought for a minute a whole swathe of the music landscape had been turned into an aural car park.

I agree, not everyone your age wears trakkies and batters grannies. Some of them rob as well


Only joking.

So, what is your musical interests other than PD ?

ferencpuskas Posted on 1/7 16:41
re: Pete Doherty

Yeah, the only thing my age stopped me doing was seeing them live. Babyshambles just aren't the same. Hope they get back together.

The_Commisar -

I'm into alot of 90's stuff, having a 90's kid older brother had an influence. Blur, Suede, Pulp, Radiohead. Getting into more early Floyd/Barrett and the Kinks more recently aswell.

Bet you were expecting me to spout 'Arctic Monkeys, Kaiser Chiefs etc etc'

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BillBones Posted on 1/7 16:44
re: Pete Doherty

Babyshambles are appalling. I was at their first gig (Scarborough Steve on vocals) and they had a vodka bottle full of water onstage. Terrible.
I hope The Libertines don't get back together. It won't be the same.

The_Commisar Posted on 1/7 16:48
re: Pete Doherty

You take your music seriously which is no bad thing.
Try some XTC if you like the kinks and early Floyd.
"An English Settlement" is a great place to start.


If you want "strange" try 3Mustaphas3, but we are in the land of the wird with that bunch

ColinBellEnd Posted on 1/7 16:49
re: Pete Doherty

I was at the Babyshambles set at the Other stage last Saturday evening and I really enjoyed it. Doherty is not all hype. Most of the crowd loved it.

It changed my opinion of him anyway

BillBones Posted on 1/7 16:52
re: Pete Doherty

If you're into The Kinks you must get Village Green Preservation Society and Arthur. In my humble opinion, Ray Davies (with Morrissey) is the best lyricist of all time.

PoetLaureate Posted on 1/7 16:55
re: Pete Doherty

I like him! good lyrics and voice

Link: Good song

ferencpuskas Posted on 1/7 16:55
re: Pete Doherty

'You take your music seriously which is no bad thing.
Try some XTC if you like the kinks and early Floyd.
"An English Settlement" is a great place to start.'

I have a Singles Collection of XTC's, never gave it a proper proper listen though, think I will this evening.

Listening to '3Mustaphas3' on myspace now. Strange would appear to be an understatement!

BillBones - strangely enough, I bought The Village Green last week (amazing), and Arthur is next on my list. In my opinion Ray Davies stands far above any other songwriter of that style ever. Except maybe Damon Albarn, but that's just my cheeky opinion.

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Zoophonic Posted on 1/7 16:56
re: Pete Doherty

I thought the Glasto set was excellent. Love the song Pipedown

bigsiggy Posted on 1/7 18:26
re: Pete Doherty

I meant shaken and withdrawn mega mix... not the free wheeling pete doherty when posting much much above.

The best thing about the libertines was how they broke down all bariers between the band and the fans. Both pete and carl were very approachable and went out of their way to talk to fans.

anybody who says that pete doherty is a waste of space etc spends too much time reading media hype about the bloak. The day song for lovers (pete and wolfman) hit the chart he was round a young fans house having sunday dinner with her family. H'He'd performed a solo set round her house as she'd missed a gig due to a medical condition (think she was in a wheel chair)

top bloak, granted the drug problems he have had are disgusting and I would never defend his behaviour of late. but, he is no waste of space, or scum bag junkie.

rant over*

I also don't want the libs to reform neither

bandito Posted on 2/7 6:37
re: Pete Doherty

no one will remember him in 5 years time apart from a few indie freaks.

Timboi Posted on 2/7 7:22
re: Pete Doherty

He's almost single-handedly running with the rock and roll batton. Musicians these days are far too healthy and well-behaved.

bandito Posted on 2/7 7:26
re: Pete Doherty

"Musicians these days are far too healthy and well-behaved."

you'll probably find that they are the successful ones.

bandito Posted on 2/7 7:26
re: Pete Doherty

"Musicians these days are far too healthy and well-behaved."

you'll probably find that they are the successful ones.

Tom_Fun Posted on 2/7 9:17
re: Pete Doherty

"no one will remember him in 5 years time apart from a few indie freaks."

I bet they do. You just stick to your Top Gear albums.

mattfj Posted on 2/7 9:23
re: Pete Doherty

Any real music fans know the importance of The Libertines; an opinion not soley my own; did anyone else see The Seven Ages of Rock last night?

ferencpuskas Posted on 2/7 13:47
re: Pete Doherty

'"Musicians these days are far too healthy and well-behaved."

you'll probably find that they are the successful ones.'

Good musicians smoke, drink and take drugs. A sad fact of life.