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Boateng_7 Posted on 9/7 12:01
The End Of Brownlee and Slaven

shame.

Link: No More Century Commentary

McCann_87 Posted on 9/7 12:02
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Thats wa­nk, ano brownlee can do my head in at times but they're far better than them two, didnt they win an award aswell?

jamier86 Posted on 9/7 12:03
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Thats a massive shame i doubt very much that they could out do ali and bernie

Derby_Red Posted on 9/7 12:03
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Not a disaster. Slaven's a sh it broadcaster anyway. Good riddance.

Boateng_7 Posted on 9/7 12:03
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the two on radio cleveland arent even in the same league as Ali and Bernie.

captain5 Posted on 9/7 12:04
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Haven't listened to a radio commentary in ages, so not overly bothered.

Corporal_Bones Posted on 9/7 12:04
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Brownlee will end up working freelance for the national stations.

corruptbiggins Posted on 9/7 12:05
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I usually listen to Radio Cleveland anyway. Just shows that Century cares only about Newcastle and Sunderland.

grantus Posted on 9/7 12:06
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I think it sucks.

Bukowski_MFC Posted on 9/7 12:06
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Blimey. Didn't see that coming.

Tom_Fun Posted on 9/7 12:07
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I'd rather watch Stelling mention us once every 20 minutes than listen to Slaven and Brownlee.

A_New_Era Posted on 9/7 12:08
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they are at times borign and cringeworthy, but in the big games they create abit of excitement. Everyone seems ot have the commentary from basel and steaua games and ive also got chelsea at home from past 2 seasons, always worth a listen

TheYak87 Posted on 9/7 12:10
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im actually devistated, no joke.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 9/7 12:10
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Club p_ssed off at Slavens' perceived negativity and constant moaning at all things Boro?

So thought "bollox to them" and give the rights to the BBC?

Or will it be simply down to £££££?

AyresomeAvenger Posted on 9/7 12:10
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I wonder how many games Bernie will get to if he's not being paid - or god forbid he actually had to buy a ticket?

north_stand Posted on 9/7 12:11
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wonder if century have pulled out alltogether, or may go in for live updates like tfm does, and keeping a phone-in, absolute shame the loss.

A_New_Era Posted on 9/7 12:12
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you will have to retune your radio now for during the game keef

Guisboro Posted on 9/7 12:12
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Can you get the Radio Cleveland commentary live over the web ?

north_stand Posted on 9/7 12:13
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doubt i'll bother like.

dave_catching Posted on 9/7 12:13
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crying shame for me. end of a great double act.

i think Slavens opinions were probably a bit too honest for the MFC propaganda division.

Matelot Posted on 9/7 12:14
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Brownlee started off on Radio Cleveland and moved over once century got the rights for Boro Games.

Brownlee is a good commentator and has improved alot since I first stared listening to him over 20 years ago with his then sidekick Gordon Cox.

Shame really as Bernie was always devils advocate to Ali being red tinted glasses wearing type fan like 95% of people on this board.

I will miss em.

The_Commisar Posted on 9/7 12:15
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I won't miss Slaven.

BroughtonLad Posted on 9/7 12:15
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Century are going to cover Sunderland games now.
I liked Ali as he is 100% Boro.
No more Century for me then !!

Tom_Fun Posted on 9/7 12:15
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I think that's why they annoy a lot of people Matelot. Their opinions are poles apart, and both way too extreme.

Boateng_7 Posted on 9/7 12:17
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quite simply its disgraceful they were very keen on boro when we were doing well but now Sunderland have got Keano and Quinn they have jumped on the bandwagon.

Winston_Spangler Posted on 9/7 12:19
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Absolutely gutted. No more pitchside reporting for me next season. Want to cry.

Burtblahblahblah Posted on 9/7 12:22
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That sucks a lot - I'm gutted. I've listened to Radio Cleveland commentaries a couple of times and it was a snoozefest. Whatever you say about Ali and Bernie, it was good entertainment and they were characters. A bit strong for some tastes, but hey.

Babe_Rhuth Posted on 9/7 12:22
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I wonder if the alleged legend Slaven will bother to attend Boro games if he has to pay to get in!
Methinks not!

AyresomeAvenger Posted on 9/7 12:23
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"Shame really as Bernie was always devils advocate to Ali being red tinted glasses wearing type fan like 95% of people on this board"

What claptrap. Even morons can work out that Ali just plays a character - like predicting a 3-0 away win at Liverpool. The problem with Bernie wasn't his criticism rather his obvious bitterness that clouded his judgement.

Matelot Posted on 9/7 12:26
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What is it with these comments about Slaven paying to go to the games?
Personally if somebody played over 300 games for the club and scored 147 goals in the process, I think it would be a disgrace for the club to charge him anyway.

teesste Posted on 9/7 12:26
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Big shame that. Hopefully Ali will have some other sort of role lined up. (could replace Mark Page?!) Won't miss Slaven who in my opinion is a very bitter ex pro. Will miss Ali's crazy commentaries tho'. Good luck to him.

bandito Posted on 9/7 12:27
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knew about it on saturday night and neither bernie nor Ali saw it coming. Shocking move by Century! So much for their global award. Looks like Lmab has stuck his oar in and opted for the "safe station"

Guisboro Posted on 9/7 12:28
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teeste, now thats a great idea - you need to start a petition - Page out, Brownlee in !

prepman Posted on 9/7 12:28
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slaven,the only so called football pundit,that talks anything but football.silly giggling little nobody.

Bilbo_2004 Posted on 9/7 12:30
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Gary Gill is a very good assessor of a match seems to see what is actually going on and as opposed to Bernie (nice bloke though he is) can say what he wants in a sentance rather that a paragraph.
Actually I meant Ally not Bernie.

--- Post edited by Bilbo_2004 on 9/7 12:32 ---

Matelot Posted on 9/7 12:30
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Quick thought how many Slaven haters actually saw him play for the Boro?

If it was not for his goals god knows where we would be as a club now.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/7 12:32
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I hope Ali gets a new gig soon. He's Boro through and through and after commentating on the club for over 20 years deserves to get something else.

Slaven will be able to get to see Celtic now, so everyones a winner.

bandito Posted on 9/7 12:33
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Bernie will still be going to all Boro games, home and away.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/7 12:33
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No one is doubting his playing abiliy, it has no relation to his current job.

I bet people who defend Slaven because he scored goals will also slag Merson, despite him getting us promoted almost by himself.

prepman Posted on 9/7 12:39
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he wont be going to games if he has pay.

Bukowski_MFC Posted on 9/7 12:40
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"I bet people who defend Slaven because he scored goals will also slag Merson, despite him getting us promoted almost by himself."

But Bernie embraced the club and the area after playing for us for many years. Merson has a dig at both whenever he can. ALthough Bernie can be overly negative at times, it's ultimately coming from a good place. He does love the Boro.

bandito Posted on 9/7 12:40
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he will be.

NeilInFrance Posted on 9/7 12:44
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God this is terrible. Even before moving to France I relied on Browlee commentaries of away matches and Slaven is a hero to me and I think has proved to be a good co-commentator at live matches. I was at Cardiff, but their commentary of the final is ledgendary and my preffered on the DVD.

What I find terrible though is that its not as is they have been sacked but that they have been put out of a job because Boro have decide to grant an exclusive radio license to one club. Not liking them and not listening to them is fine, you're entitled to your opinions, but not letting them even broadcast is plain rotten.

I've been getting progressively more and more p1ssed off with CORPORATE boro (rebranding by changing the badge !) but this may be the final straw.

I may be doing a Schwartzer !!

mm40 Posted on 9/7 12:47
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probably the worst commentary in the country, about as exciting as watching paint dry. The coming season is probably the most unexciting since we moved to the riverside and it gets worse when we have football commentary like this replacing century.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 9/7 12:49
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Anyone who thinks they've lost the commentary because of what Bernie has to say for himself is a fool.

It comes down to money plain and simple - Boro have pursued the highest payer, which in this case was the BBC.

boshank Posted on 9/7 12:49
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brilliant news I think, brownlee is absolutly awful to say the least

teesste Posted on 9/7 12:50
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Who has said it was the Boro that instigated this move?? Maybe Century backed out? We don't know! No point slagging the club off when we don't know the full facts! As for not liking Radio Clevelands commentary well get off your arse and get to the game, that way you won't have to listen to it!!

captain5 Posted on 9/7 12:51
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I think Century have binned us rather than the other way around.

ThePrisoner Posted on 9/7 12:51
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I'm gutted. Yes Brownlee and Slaven could be infuriating but they were a very good combination. Cleveland will be dull as ditchwater in comparison. Have Boro ditched Century or have Century ditched Boro? The club got more coverage and interest from century than they will ever generate on Cleveland so I think the latter case. We have been pushed aside for the Mackems. Well sod Century. No more Legends for me either.

stevevickers4 Posted on 9/7 12:52
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Gutted. Them two clowns on Radio Cleveland are boring as fook. Away games I can't get to gonna be schitt now.

fat_abbott Posted on 9/7 12:54
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No, they aren't going to be schitt.

They are going to be described properly, not by one person with rose tinted glasses and the other with an annoying axe to grind.

mm40 Posted on 9/7 12:54
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teeste- what about people who cant afford to go eh?

sasboro Posted on 9/7 12:55
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dont think many ex boro players go to home and away games after they retire. so why dont they get slagged off.

can see slaven ending up helping out SSN on a match day or getting some role with talksport.

Unsure what brownlee will do. maybe he can get some job at tfm

kermit_the_smog Posted on 9/7 12:56
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Never saw Slaven play but I often agree with him on the radio.

Ali is far too optimistic and rose tinted, Slaven can be a little over dramatic sometimes but generally he speaks as a realist

billybalfour Posted on 9/7 12:57
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like niel in france says, its graet listening to them when your away from home, i used to listen to them years ago, i learned how to use a computer so i could listen to the commentry while i was away working, it was my home fix of the week, shame, ill miss em for sure

Winston_Spangler Posted on 9/7 12:58
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Bernie can sometimes be a bit negative but I don't buy all this axe to grind talk. He speaks passionately and calls it as he sees it. I'd say I generally agree with a lot of what he says. Sometimes I don't but that's football, it's all about opinions.

--- Post edited by Winston_Spangler on 9/7 13:00 ---

gravy_boat Posted on 9/7 12:59
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I really like Ali, proper Boro fan. He might have had his rose-tinted specs on throughout the years, but more often than not he's just playing devils advocat. Nowt worng with being optimistic.

I'll miss him, hope he gets something else sorted out soon.

teesste Posted on 9/7 12:59
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Thats a fair point mm, but have you actualy listened to Radio Clevelands commentary? I've gotta admit i haven't so don't know how good or bad they are! Anyway most games are on Al Quaeda TV in pubs all over Teesside these days so you can just watch em there!

AyresomeAvenger Posted on 9/7 12:59
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Bernie was my favourite player in my favourite era as a Boro fan.

Cannot stand him as a pundit.

ccole Posted on 9/7 13:00
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Never again will we hear a caller on Century saying, “I wasn’t at the game myself, I listened to you on the Radio and the team are a disgrace”

As for him been honest, he may have been, just a pity he never showed the same passion when praising the team as he did when slagging the team off.

Pleased to see the back of him.

--- Post edited by ccole on 9/7 13:08 ---

manhead Posted on 9/7 13:00
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thats really crap!

Since my kids came along i can't get to as many matches as i could and bernie and ali formed part of my home based match routine.

gutted.

northumboroland Posted on 9/7 13:02
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Maybe Brownlee could become a politician, he always skirted around the facts, was a yes man and talked bullshat.

fatharrywhite Posted on 9/7 13:03
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"sometimes but generally he speaks as a realist"

ha ha, you're joking arent you!?

the problem with century was you had no idea how well we were playing cos brownlee would see nothing bad and slaven would see nothing good.

There was always a huge difference between the unbiased 5live match report and centurys.

i certainly wont lose any sleep over it, at least the radio cleveland guy doesnt spend the whole week scripting his ad-libs like ally did. You only have to listen to the two commentaries for massimo's goal against steau. Radio cleveland was just pure joy and making it up as he goes along, you could imagine brownlee reading off a piece of paper all the cobblers he came out with

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:03
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It wont be long before people are saying how dull is Radio Cleveland. This is a disastrous move for century.

mm40 Posted on 9/7 13:10
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I have listened to radio cleveland and century, there is no doubt about it r.cleveland is poor. Brownlees commentary in the uefa and other big cup matches was outstanding, I doubt we will ever forget basle and steau. Surprise, surprise lamb thinks its a good move, mind you he dos not have to listen to it!!

Davy_C Posted on 9/7 13:10
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That's a bummer that living 70 miles South of Teesside. I can kind of pick up Century down here in certain parts of Bridlington in the car and get it even clearer if I travel south of Brid towards Hull (work that one out!)

Radio Cleveland, you struggle to pick it up South of Whitby!

Guisboro Posted on 9/7 13:12
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can you not listen online to radio cleveland ?

stub78 Posted on 9/7 13:16
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and just to annoy you all further they spell Middlesbrough wrong on the website!

Link: Its all gone wrong

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:16
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I think people who listen to Cleveland wont have the internet as the core listernship is probably aimed at the over 60's

Lifer_Reilly Posted on 9/7 13:18
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Nothing wrong with Cleveland's coverage. It also means I'll never have to listen to the inane Jawdee (adverts every 5 minutes) FM ever again which is a big big bonus. Never listen to the Leg-ends and by the sounds of it that will be stopping shortly.

Cleveland are also going to have more fan forums with the likes of Gibbo and Southgate involved which has to be better for the fans.

--- Post edited by Lifer_Reilly on 9/7 13:23 ---

JoJon Posted on 9/7 13:20
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I think it's a shame. I've enjoyed listening to them over the years.

Ali is a good commentator. I hope he manages to get something else.

misterpaul89 Posted on 9/7 13:21
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Sad news.

guyb Posted on 9/7 13:21
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I know for a fact that Newcastle and Sunderland are the main prizes for Century. Once they were in the bag, keeping the Boro was a moot point because they only have two frequencies anyway.

My prediction is that Gates and Slaven will be back at the BBC in a 3-legends rip off soon enough.

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:21
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expect a BBC legends show at a radio near you.

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:23
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gyb: the same dickie bird must have landed on your shoulder aswell.

Revol_Tees Posted on 9/7 13:23
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I'm very disappointed. It makes me feel even worse for not renewing! It was going to be hard enough not being at the Boro every other Saturday for the first time in 15 years, but the anticipation of listening to the familiar tones of Brownlee and Slaven (as I do for most away games) softened the blow somewhat. Never mind. If the new commentators irritate me too much, I'll just have to turn them off and will end up not listening at all.

sasboro Posted on 9/7 13:25
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is radio cleveland going to bin any hartlepool and darlo stuff or wil they go over during commentary then come back to the boro game to find we missed a goal will any aftermatch phone in be as focused on boro or will they feel its their duty to make some air time for hartlepool and darlo?

--- Post edited by sasboro on 9/7 13:28 ---

The_Commisar Posted on 9/7 13:26
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A small point made by Matelot

Personally if somebody played over 300 games for the club and scored 147 goals in the process, I think it would be a disgrace for the club to charge him anyway.

This will be the same bloke who got paid for doing the above and paid well (by the standards of the day) one can assume.

I believe the phrase is "no ones bigger than the club". Goiven the evidence that
a) Slaven had to be kicked out for his changing room politics alledgedly (Lawrence era)
b) Was sacked from Boro TV
c) Has had very very little good to say about MFC for a few years
perhaps Slaven thinks he is bigger than the club ?

He's made a good living out of MFC, better than the vast majority on here, both as a player and a pundit!!!

If he is any good at all at his job as a pundit then presumably a few stations will be banging on his door to offer him something.
Or then again not.

guyb Posted on 9/7 13:28
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Bandito - No, but "as I understand it" Alan Oliver style - that was why Gates got potted in the first place...

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:28
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Commi: No offence mate but your assumptions are Way Way Out. Points A, B and C are woefully off target and he has irons in the fire with regards to future broadcasting.

sasboro Posted on 9/7 13:30
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i'd say its some boro fans that are more bitter towards slaven than slaven is towards MFC. AS far as i am aware slaven is still on good terms with gibson and lamb. will be interesting to see who gets picked as the bad guy on radio cleveland.

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:31
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Interesting to see how gary Gill is received on air cos the majority of Boro fans thought he was utter sch itt so his opinion will be worthless no doubt.

Maccarone_Is_Me Posted on 9/7 13:31
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Chorley FM would have been better if they weren't mentioning the sponsors every 2 minutes.

The_Commisar Posted on 9/7 13:33
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well as (a) came from the mouth of LL we'll have to agree to disagree (b)Fair point, wracking my brains wasn't there some dispute and he was told "this way or no way" and he walked off ?
I wait with baited breath to see where he turns up ("helloooo and welcome to Radio Local, the most listened to station in Yafforth, Bedale and parts of Scorton......over to our sports reporter.....")

Surely he must realise that he is seen in a "less than positive light" ?

and no offence taken Bandi!!

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:35
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of course he realises the public perception of him. For every moaner there is someone who values his opinions so I dont think he's bothered by that in the slightest.

ccole Posted on 9/7 13:38
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Though Slaven was a favoured player of mine, there was a great deal of people who were pleased when he left.

Most of today’s Boro fans won’t have heard or seen Gary Gill play.

I think Darlo and Hartlepool will be included if the fans create the demand. It’s up to them to call.

The point made about no adverts is very relevant. It will be nice to have an ad free local station on the way home.

--- Post edited by ccole on 9/7 13:46 ---

Shaun71 Posted on 9/7 13:38
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Bandi - Does that mean the Century commentary is no more? The link says Cleveland are the only channel to air EVERY league and cup game. Will Century be airing the odd game say when it doesnt clash with Newcastle or Sunderland?

captain5 Posted on 9/7 13:44
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It's exclusivity for Cleveland, is how I read that.

I hope they don't do the friendlies again though. That was high quality tedium.

BroughtonLad Posted on 9/7 13:44
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I agree with getting rid of Mark Page and replacing him with Ali.

OR

Stick Ali in the middle of the North stand with a Megaphone to get the crowd behind the team.

bandito Posted on 9/7 13:53
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Zilch coverage on Boro from Century. They might ask Ali to do the odd 60 second summary but I'd guess he'd tell them to shove it up their arse.

rob_fmttm Posted on 9/7 13:59
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Something I have to pick you up on bandito - you haven't lived here for a couple of years so you won't realise what a massive change there has been at Radio Cleveland and still continuing. It used to be a station broadcasting for over 60s but is now very much a station for younger people. Also very much into breaking down barriers - for instance Fischer broadcasting 2 nights a week. Karen Slater on Saturday only just into her 20s.

The surprise for me is that TFm haven't put in a bid. But I imagine Emap may have once more said no. That is surely one of the big problems with Independent Radio - it isn't independent their big bosses make all the big decisions. Big bosses living many miles away from the station and its audiences.

It's Ali Brownlee I feel sorry for having lost Boro TV and now Century commentary. He's a local man with a local voice and Boro in his heart but nowhere to express it.

RH79 Posted on 9/7 13:59
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Hope you dont mind a Darlo fan butting in but...

Radio Cleveland provide good quality commentary on the game. By listening to them (and as a Darlo fan i have no choice!) you get a good idea of what is actually happening. Gary Gill talks a lot of technical sense and concisely breaks down the action.

What it is not is a madly passionate insane Boro fan talking about a team he loves. I think Brownlee would admit he has the best job in the world.

I have listened to both stations on a Saturday because following Darlo there are may time you want top chuck the radio out of the window. I like listening to century because it cheers me up at times, and those European commentaries were top class!

The reason Cleveland cover us "little" teams is because we all pay the same license fee. At time i get fed up of having to listen to Boro getting beaten when they could go to a better game with Darlo or Poohls

Cheers!

ThePrisoner Posted on 9/7 14:04
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Cleveland don't have adverts but they do have daft things like breaking off to go to Whitby Town or West Hartlepool. If the Boro commentary can't take presidence over them then we are indeed brought low.

The_Commisar Posted on 9/7 14:06
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I'm wondering if Brownlee becomes the new voice of Franks Factory Flooring ?

bandito Posted on 9/7 14:08
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Fair points Rob. Been away from Teesside narly 12 yrs now so have no idea of what radio Cleveland has to offer so my apologies. However, I realise how instrumental Century radio has been in capturing the imagination of the general public of Teesside and that is down to the impact that Slaven and Ali have had. Despite lots of people moaning on here at how bad a job slaven does or that Ali is so pro Boro its untrue, they all must have listened intently enough to form such strong opinions. Losing Century is a disaster for MFC, not Slaven and brownlee cos they will both end up doing a better job in the long run. Gary Gill and paul Addison are taking over a massive bridge between club and fans and with the ever increasing prospect of being able to watch the game in the pub then Cleveland have a hell of a job on their hands to make radio listening worthwile. (in my opinion.)

billybalfour Posted on 9/7 14:11
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'It's Ali Brownlee I feel sorry for having lost Boro TV and now Century commentary. He's a local man with a local voice and Boro in his heart but nowhere to express it.'

Give him a column in your rag

Revol_Tees Posted on 9/7 14:21
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Plenty good material here for Anthony Vickers to use this week...

RobbieB1966 Posted on 9/7 14:26
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Can you get the Radio Cleveland commentary live over the web ?Yes you can get it on the web, there will be a link on bbc.co.uk/tees

doncollyony Posted on 9/7 14:29
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yep its time to cut off the live commentry and get those tight basterrrds to come and watch the games at home

Shaun71 Posted on 9/7 14:35
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I agree with a few posters thoughts. I really hope Ali Brownlee gets sorted somewhere. Bernie, Im sure hell be in demand from the likes of Sky and Talksport.

Hopefully their venture along with Gordon Cox, Linthorpe Publishing takes off too

Celestron Posted on 9/7 14:37
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Yes he will be at home on Talkshyte Radio

Boateng_7 Posted on 9/7 14:41
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Im just coming to terms with the fact that the simply red phone in is no more and I DEFINETLY will not tune into the two nuggets on bbc radio cleveland.

borolad259 Posted on 9/7 14:45
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As long as I can pick it up on the web, from whichever part of the globe I happen to be in, I'm prepared to have an open mind until I've listened to them a few times. There might be more pre-amble and analysis too.
I'm ex-bbc, so I have to declare some loyalty. I think the BBC SHOULD be providing the commentary, and if the commentary team aren't good enough, they should be changed.

sambaDTR Posted on 9/7 14:50
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I thought it was called "Radio Brownlee" anyway!

EverReadyEddie Posted on 9/7 14:56
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From what I know - trying to clear up a few things that have been mentioned above.

As I understand it...

BBC Radio Cleveland will be the only place to listen to any Boro games, Premiership home and away, carling cup and FA Cup. Century will no longer be broadcasting ANY Boro games live.

You will also be able stream the BBC's commentary from the official boro site - www.MFC.co.uk

BBC R C have been doing Boro commentary for about 5 or 6 years and some of it is pretty good actually! The stuff from the Uefa Cup semi final was superb! I heard Chris Moyles play it on his show the morning after! Ive never been that bigger fan of Century.

Also - for my 2 peneth worth - I don't think Century can be that committed to The Boro if they are prepared to pull their money out of the club and put it into the dirty mackems!

billybalfour Posted on 9/7 14:59
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SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO MFC TO LISTEN TO A RADIO STATION YOU HAVE ALLREADY PAID FOR IN YOUR LICENCE FEE, SOUNDS ABOUT SHITTYRIGHT

north_stand Posted on 9/7 14:59
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check this link

Link: ali and bernie online

captain5 Posted on 9/7 15:00
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Billy - no.

It's just an additional place you can stream it from. You'll still be able to listen to Cleveland as you already do.

maturesmogette Posted on 9/7 15:13
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I watched Slaven when he played and thought he was great but in recent times he seems to have a chip on his shoulder re Boro, especially when McLaren was in charge. He never has a good thing to say about the club or the managment and every player we buy he says "he doesn't excite me". He seems to forget we are Boro not one of the big four who can attract the best players. I changed to Radio Cleveland to listen to the away games because of his attitude. Alistair Brownlee had a career in banking before he went full time to radio so I am sure he wont starve if he can't find work in the media. I like Brownlee because like me he is the eternal opptimist where Boro are concerned.

AyresomeAvenger Posted on 9/7 15:17
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"It used to be a station broadcasting for over 60s but is now very much a station for younger people. Also very much into breaking down barriers - for instance Fischer broadcasting 2 nights a week. Karen Slater on Saturday only just into her 20s."

Rob - interesting how you make great play of Karen Slater's age but say nothing of Fischer's.

sasboro Posted on 9/7 15:21
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a lot of what slaven saif about smacs style of play has now been acknowledged within mfc and southgate is trying to make us more exciting to watch. dont think he has a chip on his shoulder..why would he? i remember paul kerr being negative and cleveland making similar points to slaven and on tfm terry cochrane is critical too. NO doubt on of the cleveland boys will be the next target for some fans

bandito Posted on 9/7 15:22
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guaranteed it'll be gary Gill who gets it in the neck. I'm expecting the usual..."what does he know, he only played about 3 times for Boro and once was with a broken leg, blah blah balh and when he did play he was crap, he only had one good game, blah blah"

madlad Posted on 9/7 15:34
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What was the score here then?
Did Century bin Boro or the other way around?
If Century have ditched us, then shame on them...bloody Jawdees and Mackem's...there are 3 Prem teams in the north east and in the last 10 years we have been the most successful!
Are Cemetary radio now covering Mackem games?

Jimmy_Salmon Posted on 9/7 15:36
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Having spent a fair bit of time in the company of both I can honestly say that their off air personalties are quite different from the on air ones where they have become almost charactertures of themselves.

And maturesmoggette if you had heard some of the 'behind the scenes stories' about the McClaren regime I'm sure you'd have a chip on your shoulder if you were in their position.

bandito Posted on 9/7 15:42
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a talking salmon that talks a lot of sense.

This "chip on the shoulder" thing is ridiculous. It's a situation which has grown because people keep mentioning it! Bit like a BAD football rumour, ie Saviola to Boro

borobadge Posted on 9/7 15:57
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sas and bandi should apply for a broadcasting licence what a double act they would be...



with gods blessing and good health, i'll still be hauling myself around the country watching the boro...i'll be more than interested over the next few seasons to see how often slaven turns up.

Lefty3668 Posted on 9/7 16:00
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The Radio Cleveland commentary is good, but I preferred the Bernie/Ally combo.

I've never thought that Bernie was particularly negative, it was more that he was fielding the same questions 10 times a night 5 nights a week. I don't always agree, but I'm certain he's a true fan.

maturesmogette Posted on 9/7 16:03
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Fair enough Jimmy Salmon if these "behind the scenes stories" are true. How do we know they are though? I still maintain that Slaven was a miserable git when broadcasting but I am sorry to see Alistair go. Doesnt bother me too much though as I am at all the home games anyway.

fatharrywhite Posted on 9/7 16:04
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he's not a true fan at all, fact is if 'celtic radio' phoned him up and offered him a job he'd be up there like a shot.

that's not a dig at him in the slightest cos i'd do the same thing as well in his shoes if that came up.

he's a celtic fan first and foremost and he always will be.

jpa5000 Posted on 9/7 16:06
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perfect sign the century dont give a toss about middlesbrough....shocking....i wont be tuning into the clowns on radio cleveland either! bloody geordies and mackams!!!! grrrr

Lefty3668 Posted on 9/7 16:06
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Maybe. I like the Beatles and the Stones.

sasboro Posted on 9/7 16:06
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borobadge, why pick out slaven for criticism if he doesnt go to all boro home and away games, most ex players dont go to all home and away games but they never get slated. Most probably dont go to any.

Kilburn Posted on 9/7 16:17
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The Boro coverage on Century had some good moments, but always seemed undermined to me by the fact that Century itself is a very 'tabloid' radio station, akin to Talksport.

My impression was that Bernie and Ali were encouraged to take on deleberately controversial pessimistic and optimistic personae, because that was the broadcasting style that the station wanted.

The rest of Century's output is low-quality populist trash radio, so the Boro coverage always stood out as a bit of an anomaly.

simon1586 Posted on 9/7 16:20
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Sounds like yet another PR own goal from the Boro.

jam69 Posted on 9/7 16:21
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cleveland is now radio tees i believe

captain5 Posted on 9/7 16:24
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How's it a 'PR own goal'??

dan87 Posted on 9/7 16:30
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many boro fans will be lost without bernie telling them what to think

simon1586 Posted on 9/7 16:33
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Judging by comments I have heard and many comments on here it doesn't sound like a very popular move.

glippy Posted on 9/7 16:38
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Please tell us some of those behind the scene stories. I love a bit of gossip.

captain5 Posted on 9/7 16:40
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Doesn't make it a PR own goal though.

simon1586 Posted on 9/7 16:42
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So if the club takes an action which is not popular with the fans this is not a PR own goal?

captain5 Posted on 9/7 16:47
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It's not the club who have done this.

Century have two frequencies that they can broadcast on, therefore a maximum of two clubs they can feature with full commentary.

They've chosen Newcastle and Sunderland.

Because of that, Boro have been left with Radio Cleveland only, as Emap who own TFM don't believe in paying for sports rights.

Nothing Boro could've done about it. Century are a commercial organisation and will get better listenership from covering the other two clubs.

borobadge Posted on 9/7 16:52
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sas, my veiws and comments on slaven are well aired and broadcast on here...he was a £25,000 footballer and we turned him into a £100,000 one..it could have risen to £125,000 if he would only listen, but no, he knew best.

the reason its relevent to slaven is he aint really a 'boro fan'..he just claims it to support his media profile and to support his rants against us.

now he isnt getting an immediate meal ticket (although i'm sure he will get a freebie from somewhere for the key games)and being paid hard cash to go and watch the lads..i feel sure the slaven is boro through and through ghost will be put to rest.

and by the way sas, i watched him play @ ayresome and around the country..he wasnt that good (certainly not as good as he thought he was)he played in the best boro team since '73 that provided chances right, left and centre ..if he could understand off-side he would have got 40 goals more, but no, he was an arrogant shtye who blamed everyone else, but himself....the chicken run had him well sussed.

i recall the nights and days during the closed season when we (the boro)were working overtime to keep him out of the clutches of Everton, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea who were circling like vultures to prise away our prize footballer and goalscoring sensation..real madrid, barcelona, paris st germaine, valencia and manchester united, they all came calling and were rebuffed..........................not.

until the mighty port vale rode into town and made us an offer we couldnt refuse.......legend...my arse.

i make no bones about it, i dont like the bloke.

simon1586 Posted on 9/7 17:00
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Century have stated that they intended to cover all three local teams, Middlesbrough FC opted to go for an exclusive deal with the BBC.

ccole Posted on 9/7 17:00
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Judging by the comments I have read on this thread I would say it is at best a 50/50 split.

Hardly a PR own goal.

I maybe off the mark here, but those who like him most are those who pick and choose their games?





I would also echo Badges thoughts.



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sasboro Posted on 9/7 17:01
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I've always sensed it is personal for you. Most ex players leave the area but he doesnt and is settled on teesside even before he got a job with century. I just feel fans have an axe to grind with him cos he forms different opinions. SO what if he supports celtic a lot of boro fans do. Bet his kids grow up boro fans. But fans will always point the finger by saying its cos of the money he gets paid. You can say the same about any footballer or exfootballer. What about ali brownlee getting paid for doing it.

Still its going to be a long time before a boro striker scores as many as him at boro.

I never understand boro fans sometimes, quick to slag off the likes of slaven and schwarzer.

I suppose its all about opinions and if people dislike him cos his opinions dont match theirs, then thats their problem.

jam69 Posted on 9/7 17:02
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slaven did well as a boro player,but i would never class him as a fan,armchair celtic fan maybe but cant see him putting his hand in his pocket to watch mfc

guyb Posted on 9/7 17:06
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For those with long memories, before Century came along, Radio Cleveland were the best friend the Boro had.

And don't kid yourself about Century's loyalties. They've got what they wanted, a "north east" dream team of the big two. We would have been very much 3rd choice in terms of commentaries and analysis so it is better to be a big fish in our own pond than duking it out in a rigged match.

captain5 Posted on 9/7 17:13
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"Century have stated that they intended to cover all three local teams, Middlesbrough FC opted to go for an exclusive deal with the BBC."


Century have to still provide some form of coverage in terms of stories etc but there would've been no coverage as we know it now with match action.

Boro seem to have come out it okay PR-wise if anything as some people seem to believe that this is a Boro decision.

prepman Posted on 9/7 17:18
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borobadge,fully agree with you..spot on mate.

Gillandi Posted on 9/7 17:29
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Spot on Borobadge.


Century FM - The end of an ear-ache.

grantus Posted on 9/7 17:33
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A lot of people thought that Bernie and Ali were a very entertaining double act commentating on the Boro. They brought the game to life for many and had a lot of supporters. They are by far any way my favourite radio commentry team and reflected the Riverside terraces very well (either very critical or over the top optimistic). For me they will be missed and I'm very sceptical that the new team will be anywhere near as passionate, humorous and entertaining as Bernie and Ali.


They are gone though, so good luck to the BBC team, I hope they can deliver.

bandito Posted on 9/7 17:33
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if it was such an ear ache to people why listen? That tells me more about the listener than anything else. At what point do these people think, hmm, this bloke is getting on my tits, I think I'll switch off now?

ccole Posted on 9/7 17:39
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“It was such an ear ache to people why listen?”

The same reason that if you want to watch the Simpson’s latest series you have to buy SKY

Gillandi Posted on 9/7 17:40
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It's not only the end of an era-ache it's also the end of an eye-sore. People will now scratch off all those vile yellow and red Century FM window stickers. We can forget they ever troubled us with their junk broadcasting and gaudy corporate idents.

--- Post edited by Gillandi on 9/7 17:41 ---

moxzin87 Posted on 9/7 17:40
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Until I read captain5's post of 16:47 I was about to question this decision as one of the club's, given the value that Brownlee and Slaven can add, how enjoyable they are to listen to and therefore how more connected to the Boro wherever you are that you feel.

But if its not the club's fault and Century have ditched us, then fine.

I always thought Radio Cleveland had better quality commentary, but Century's was always more fun and passionate.

Is there any possibility of Brownlee and Slaven following the football to the BBC? It'd fit given the Three Legends goings on.

simon1586 Posted on 9/7 17:44
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Century have stated, on thier website, that they wanted to continue to provide commentary for the Boro games. That makes it MFC's decision to go to the BBC.

somaks Posted on 9/7 18:03
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latest Boro news on here and a chance to see what their guys look look like.

just a thought but new station name, new times ahead? BBC Tees sounds much better than Century don't you think?

Link: BBC Tees

Gillandi Posted on 9/7 18:05
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Yep, I think i'll quite enjoy looking at them next season.



I'm trying to organise a bit of supper, music and dancing tonight around 11 oclock, to go on possibly till dawn the next day. I want people to relax and have a good time and I'm hoping there'll be lot's of opportunities for coupling. Come barefoot and bring a bottle. Strictly no attitude-heads or Slaven-ites.

Date: Monday, 9th July
Time: 11pm
Place: Century FM's grave.


We'll be burning a few Boston records.

--- Post edited by Gillandi on 9/7 18:08 ---

captain5 Posted on 9/7 18:06
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They wanted to provide it as and when they could, ie they would cherrypick our best games and cover us when Newcastle and Sunderland were not playing.

If they had wanted to cover every game as they have previously always done, Boro would've allowed them to do so. They didn't, so Boro have gone exclusively to the beeb.

captain5 Posted on 9/7 18:07
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Also, I should just add that from Century's point of view it's what I would have probably done if I was in their shoes.

rocky_1986 Posted on 9/7 18:08
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Devastating news. A massive loss to North East Radio, it is a shame that we will no longer be able to listen to passionate commentary anymore. I personally don't fancy listening to Radio Cleveland.

prepman Posted on 9/7 18:09
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gillandi,ill be there if slaven not going,the boring coont.

Boro_2006 Posted on 9/7 18:11
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Century news....



It was the Boro who has dumped Century

captain5 Posted on 9/7 18:12
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Spin. See what I said above.

Century have been gagging for a chance to do Newcastle and Sunderland commentaries.

BoroDancer Posted on 9/7 18:23
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Such a shame - if you didn't support one of the big 3 NE clubs it was worth tuning in on matchday just for the laugh.

I think Boro are sick of the stick that Bernie gave them, and Radio Cleveland will just tow the party line.

boro74 Posted on 9/7 18:31
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I live abroad so I can't get to the match. I listen online and I like Ali's style of commentary. Especially the cup win,the penner save against city and the 2 comebacks.

corruptbiggins Posted on 9/7 18:33
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Century had to stop the online commentary anyway, so Cleveland was the really the only way to get it online.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 9/7 18:38
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Wasn't Brownlee Cox's original partner on Radio Cleveland? A good pairing from what I can remember, split up when the broadcasting rights were sold to Century.

OPEO Posted on 9/7 18:41
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At last we will have local coverage. Not your commercial crap from jawdee land. Half the time up here the jawdee game would override the boro signal anyway. Good move.

Jonathan11 Posted on 9/7 18:41
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Think i'll believe Century over "Captain5"

Coluka Posted on 9/7 18:45
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Right, I am no Slaven fan, but some of you are talking shoite. He is a fan of Boro and Celtic,fine by me.

I disagree with a lot of what he says, but i do think he has Boro's best interests at heart in his personal views.

I think he just said on century that he WILL be at EVERY game, away as well as at home - that should make him a fan in anyones eyes.

Furthermore there are a lot of people on here who will be in the pubs watching on the telly downing pints rather than paying at the turnstile. These guys say they cant afford it but proceed to down 6 - 10 pints at the pub. That makes Slaven more of a supporter than some in my eyes.

Like i say i don't agree with the fella or care too much for a lot of his views but he does not deserve to get slaughtered like some have done on here.

I for one will miss the fans phone in on my drive home after matches

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 9/7 18:51
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He might be in the pub with us next season, Coluka! Oh, he doesn't drink does he?

Lifer_Reilly Posted on 9/7 18:59
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Count me in Gillandi, I've stated elsewhere that I'm glad to see the back Jawdee Nation FM. Feel sorry for Ali and Bernie though.

I don't believe the spin they've put on this news and given some of the media inside information on here I reckon what Capt 5 and Guyb have posted is more near the truth. It would ideal in a perfect world to give everyone their own personal choice on who to listen to commentary wise, but the way that Jawdee Nation FM were likely to cover us I believe that MFC made the right choice.

--- Post edited by Lifer_Reilly on 9/7 19:01 ---

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 9/7 19:01
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A financial decision, and that alone, would be my assessment of the situation.

Winston_Spangler Posted on 9/7 19:04
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Captain. You've got it all wrong like. Century were going to do live commentaries on the Boro. They didn't choose the big two. I spoke to the general manager a week ago last Thursday and he was confident of sorting the deal out.

--- Post edited by Winston_Spangler on 9/7 19:08 ---

smoggy27 Posted on 9/7 19:04
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slaven is a boro LEGEND and some of the nonesence on this thread is astonishing to read ,ok u may not always agree with the man but like coluka said he ALWAYS has the clubs best interest ,its just typical of some people on here who seem to love havin digs at our ex players ,current players and staff,some people on here are the most fickle i have ever known and should go and follow another club .id rather have 20 thousand real fans than 28-30 thousand fickle retards moaning at every chance they get its embarrasing to me as a real fan who follows and defends my club no matter what

Winston_Spangler Posted on 9/7 19:07
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And I very much doubt it was solely a financial decision on the part of MFC. Surely you'd get more money selling the rights to two stations rather than one.

Mat_Evans Posted on 9/7 19:11
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I think coluka has it right.

burydweller Posted on 9/7 19:16
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BERNIE loves the boro, his criticism of the team, in my opinion, is usually spot on. Thats does not matter though, as we all have opinions and can be right or wrong, so what. He loves Boro, you can hear it in his voice, he scored many great goals for us, in a time when wages were not so vast. I have nothing but admiration and respect for Bernie. You are a legend son.

Winston_Spangler Posted on 9/7 19:18
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Bernie is a Boro fan. FACT.

Arthur_Conan_Doyle Posted on 9/7 19:25
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While I usually enjoyed listening to Brownlee, by the end of last season I hadn't half got sick of Bernie's style of giving away what had happened before Ali had finished describing it.

Ali: "And Downing's dribbling down ..."
Bernie: "(groan)"
Ali: "...the wing. And he's been tackled."

RavsDad Posted on 9/7 19:35
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OMG! Radio Sleep.

Some of you must fear having your heart rates raised 5%. Well, don't worry because it won't happen with Cox and co. For away games I'll probably just watch Soccer Saturday instead. At least I'll be awake when the final whistle blows.

Still - the Slaven Haters are lapping it up. What bitter little men you are. Did he say something nasty about our team then? Awwwww! And of course no-one else ever does. The truth often hurts.

Perhaps though, MFC have a cunning plan. So cunning, in fact that you haven't spotted it. All the pro-listeners who hardly ever attend home games will be so suicidal after a couple of Cleveland commentaries that they'll walk over broken glass to buy season tickets rather than endure another.

sad_man Posted on 9/7 19:37
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If they are doing the commentary on the website they'll have to do a "and now our non-website will have to listen to how Guisborough town are getting on while Boro score the winning goal."

And we'll still probably be able to get it like we did last season on that secret link...

BoroMutt Posted on 9/7 19:40
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Well, I enjoyed them as a pair and think that Ali is a decent (if somewhat biased) commentator. There are far worse on national radio eg. A**n Gr**n

Remember "The Greatest Autralian Hero SINCE NED KELLY" as Skippy saved from Fowler to put us on the road to Eindhoven? Classic radio and I still have the MP3 somewhere!

I assume Bernie still has the Leg-ends gig?

shropste Posted on 9/7 20:03
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Brownlee should be given the job as Stadium announcer instead of bloody Mark Paige.


STE

Kilburn Posted on 9/7 21:56
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One thing that is now guaranteed is that Century will spend all of next season sticking the boot in to Boro whenever possible.

Davy_C Posted on 9/7 21:59
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I thought Century had two transmitters? one in the North and one in the South of the Region (Teesside) So how can they split two teams into one Northern transmission? It means they'll stick Sunderland in 100.7FM - fine for the billingham mackems but they'll strugle to pick it up on Wearside!

When BBC have an area with two teams like down where I am in Humberside they put Hull on the fm freqency when they're away and either Scunthorpe or Grimsby on the AM/MW frequency when they're at home on the same weekend/kick off times.

BBC Cleveland will surely be better off doing this with Boro, Hartlepool and Darlington if they can find a AM/MW frequency to do two broadcasts on aswell as 95FM ?

north_stand Posted on 9/7 22:05
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century have a dab frequency they could have used, like magic did last season,

onedeanglover Posted on 9/7 22:18
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It's not a big loss to Century. My mate is "in the industry" and he said that Century are gonna move away from football anyway (It costs too much) When Century first started they wanted to aim at the fella's but now they are aiming towards women. Their sister staion starts this year SMOOTH and they won't be running football either.

I would suggest BBC ditch Gill and bring in Slaven. Gill tends to have the good cop approach, whereas Slaven like him or loath him he does say it as it is.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 9/7 22:18
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Won't be surprised to see either of them at BBC Radio Cleveland. Ally left there when Century got the rights and with all due respect to Paul Addison, is for me, the voice of the Boro. He's been commentating on us for 25 years or so. Boro commentaries will not be the same without him. Bernie was tapped up by the BBC a while back, so I could see him and possibly Ally, teaming up on a phone-in show for them, possibly even doing the commentary. I think Ally is the better commentator, while Gilly is a better summariser than Bernie, simply because he's more level-headed.

Bernie thinks nowt about speaking his mind, so if he doesn't like summat, he'll say so, though on the phone in, he'll say summat controversial to provoke a reaction. People accuse him of being negative, but you need a counter-balance to Ally's red and white tinted optimism. Besides, Supergob and ex 3 Legends presenter Gatesy have often accused him of sitting on the fence, so he must be doing summat right.

Still recall early editions of FMMTM doing a parody of Ally and Coxy, "The Unbiased Adventures of Alistair and Gordon". An ironic title if ever there was one. I think the article was a back-handed compliment that despite their best efforts of trying to remain impartial, their true colours always shone through.

ThePrisoner Posted on 9/7 22:19
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"century have a dab frequency they could have used, like magic did last season,"

Yes but only seven people in the entire country own a DAB radio. The advantages of DAB versus analogue seem totally underwhelming. In fact I'm told the reception can be abysmal on a DAB set.

McLeans_Mick Posted on 9/7 22:21
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Are you joking TP? DAB is a million miles better than analogue

Revol_Tees Posted on 9/7 22:23
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The best duo was Alistair Brownlee and Gordon Cox on BBC Cleveland years ago. They were passionate without being hysterical. I'd love to see them back.

Shaun71 Posted on 9/7 22:26
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They still work together now, along with Slaven

I can remember buying a cassette (remember them!) in aid of Children in Need I think, with excerpts of the 91/2 season on. Coxys commentary when Slaven put the ball in the net at Old Trafford in the cup semi to the tune of Steel River still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand on end

gordyp Posted on 9/7 22:26
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I've not read the full thread but there was a century rep on the 6 o'clock news who said that the decision was made by MFC to give exclusive coverage to the BBC. Also that Century could cover all three clubs no problem and that is what they had wanted to do.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 9/7 22:30
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I think Ste's suggestion of Ally taking over from MMP is a good one if he can't get a radio job commentating on Boro. I'm surprised the club haven't questioned MMP about the way in which he announced that Michael Owen had been stretchered off after the last game of the season. If he meant it as some sort of sick joke, he should be sacked.

Stepper_T Posted on 9/7 22:33
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Maybe they or Ally will eventually end up on Cleveland

Shaun71 Posted on 9/7 22:34
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He had been stretchered off though

shaun_84 Posted on 9/7 22:36
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And twenty years on, Bernie continues to split the crowd 50-50! I was always Pro-Slaven, and the Century years won't change my stance.

Link: Bernie, Bernie Slaven!

north_stand Posted on 9/7 22:37
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a Boateng_7 post has never had as many posts as this before, not good.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 9/7 22:39
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I know Shaun, but you have to question the way in which he announced it. Was he saying it as it was a genuinely newsworthy item, or was he saying it in a sniggering type of way? I think it was the latter, in which case he should get the boot if that can be proved, but I think that would be difficult.

Parmotastic Posted on 9/7 22:42
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I am not beothered about century but I will miss ally and bernie, they are the vouce of the boro IMO no matter how outspoken and OTT they can be.

commentary will never be the same again !

br14 Posted on 9/7 22:44
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Living over the pond I have listened faithfully to almost every game commentated on by Brownlee and Slaven over the past 6 years (except when I had season tickets) via the internet. Hell I even paid for the privilege.

Despite their almost continuous exaggeration of the highs and lows at least the commentary had passion and humour - not to mention the crazy callers after games.

Very disappointed in the club for what has to be a short sighted decision. They cant be making that much cash from the radio commentary anyway.

For those of us living overseas no doubt we'll now have to find a UK anonymous proxy - the Beeb typically dont allow non UK internet users to stream audio. (Who will do the Boro World commentary?).

Shaun71 Posted on 9/7 22:45
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True enough B_G

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 9/7 22:54
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We should have a top 10 of Brownlee moments:

I'll start

1. The Draculas Boys/everyone round mine for a parmo from the Steua game.

2. William Tell, Heidi, your boys took one helluva beating.

3. Greatest Aussie since Ned Kelly

4. Bit more obscure, Chelsea 1988. "And it's Slaven. He has the chance to finish it all off now - AND HE HAS!" Cue mass hysteria from yours truly as I thought Bernie had scored, but in fact he's just managed to play out the final few seconds of the 88 play off final.

West_Coast Posted on 9/7 22:59
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Thats typically ageist nonsense. I am 65 and well versed in matters computational sonny jim

erimus11 Posted on 9/7 23:30
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It will be interesting to get Ali's viewpoint on all of this. He's out of the country (with Coxy and spouses) on his jollies until later this week so may well have only heard so much of the cafuffle that going on - especially, if what I've been told is correct, that the final decision to shelve Century wasn't made until this weekend.
Ali's a very astute fella - I'm sure he'll have plenty of irons in the fire

Detroit_Boro_Boy Posted on 9/7 23:51
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br14:

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Very short sighted on behalf of the club. For those who live abroad, especially when you are +4k miles away, Ali and Bernie could certainly bring the Boro magic into one's living room fom afar. I used to look forward to listening to each match. I recall this year when BBC Radio Clevelend did the early rounds of the FA Cup and it was so disappointing to log on and listen to Gary Gill et al. VERY BORING COMMENTARY. Maybe more unbiased while still being pro Boro, but simply not as dynamic as Ali and Bernie. Even my American girlfriend loved them! I have a hard time thinking that BBC can emulate them. Even though many people have their mixed opinions on Ali and Bernie, one thing you can't take away is that they were still UNIVERSAL AMBASSADORS for the Boro.

Shame on you Middlesbrough FC.

corruptbiggins Posted on 10/7 0:54
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People call Cleveland's commentary boring. I say it's more professional and factual. Century was more like two characters, the whole good cop, bad cop thing. While more entertaining, it was also more annoying. I'd rather have a clear picture of what is going on during the match rather than one guy saying we'll win every match 3-0 and the other saying we're the worst team ever. Very ITV like.

Oh and I can't believe that I've just given Boateng_7 a double century.

What have I done?

--- Post edited by corruptbiggins on 10/7 0:55 ---

bobstermarley Posted on 10/7 8:49
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No more "Simply Red Phone-in".

No more callers who "listened to the match but weren't actually there".

No more callers whose opening words are "Well, Bernie.....".

crazybeautiful Posted on 10/7 10:10
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Drury wipes the floor with all the others anyway. I think it's fab news, but i didn't like Bernie at all. In fact it was like chewing glass listening to him.

West_Coast Posted on 10/7 10:21
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Are you SURE Captain5. Radio Cleveland were not allowed to stream Premiership commentary last season nor were Century. You had to subscribe to the Boro World crap or find a way to listen in illegally. The club seems to have a self destruct button and Lamby is sitting on it.

Boateng_7 Posted on 10/7 10:24
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how about if someone gets in touch with Mfc on behalf of the listeners to Ali and Bernie and see if they will change thier mind somehow.

Boateng_7 Posted on 10/7 14:37
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so basically Bernie and Ali have been shitt on by Dave allan and fordy.

McLeans_Mick Posted on 10/7 14:43
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Er no Boateng. Century wouldnt pay the money, Cleveland did. When Century finally agreed to pay it too late. They have been trying to get out of airing Boro games for a little while now.

As for no Simply Red phone in, give me strength. There is another 2 Boro phone ins to be heard you know at the same time.

McLeans_Mick Posted on 10/7 14:44
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Cant see where Messrs Allan and fordy come into it you stupid little man. I would think its more Keith Lamb / Steve Gibsons decision ultimately.

Boateng_7 Posted on 10/7 14:47
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I thought the likes of those two individuals especially fordy negotiate things like that.

McLeans_Mick Posted on 10/7 14:49
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Why would the Public Relations Manager and Marketing Manager do that?

I would think negotiations are slightly higher up the food chain ala K Lamb

Cleveland paid the most money, they get the contract. Which bit dont you get exactly?

wilfym Posted on 10/7 15:01
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Absolutely great news.... especially with regards to Brownlie! Him,Mark Paige and their ilk should be made to pay entry like everyone else....the gravy trains over!

Boateng_7 Posted on 10/7 15:03
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Brownlee will definetly be missed bacuse the commentary on bbc radio cleveland sounds gash and will not be listened to in my household!.

wilfym Posted on 10/7 15:10
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Wont be missed by me..just a two bit chancer whos managed to forge a career on the back of MFC....lets see if he forks out £500 brick for a ticket or manages to slither his way into some other "media" position to gain entry to games....crap commentator anyway!

rob_fmttm Posted on 10/7 15:24
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I think that is very unfair wilfym - Alastair Brownlee has given 24 years of excellent service with the commentray mike. Did you expect him to do it for free? Well, he did when he was at Radio Cleveland - expenses only and they weren't generous in those days. He's given people a great deal of enjoyment over the years and brought the Boro into an awful lot of homes.

Before then Alastair served his time as a fan and a supporters travel organiser etc. Also all that free time he gave to the Junior Reds over the years. It's a long long time ago but I think he may have once signed me up on a bus to Wolves in the FA Cup Quarter Finals when we were dreaming of Wembley.

Alastair thoroughly deserves what he has earned and doesn't deserve to have been dropped in this way. But I strongly suspect what McLeans_Mick is saying to be true. I know that Tfm thought they were going to get the nod along with Cleveland a couple of years ago. At the 11th hour Emap, their owners said no.

Shaun71 Posted on 10/7 15:31
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Spot on Rob. He spent well over a decade working with the Junior Reds from the late 70s onwards.

Hopefully hell get sorted out with something soon enough.

wilfym - Thats just like saying the players should pay their way into the matches (Hmm theres a thought). Ali Brownlee has paid his dues many times over.

Boateng_7 - Have you ever listened to Clevelands commentary? I thought it complemented Centurys very well. Paul Addison is an excellent commentator and Gary Gill is a thoughtful analyst alongside. As for post match phone-ins, if you dont like Clevelands listen to Jeff Winters on TFM

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erimus11 Posted on 10/7 15:43
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Rob - Hear, hear - very well put mate.

wilfym - Talking out of your @rse fella
You obviously don't know Ali's background with regards to following the Boro long before he even got involved with the Junior Reds or the Supporters Club etc - Rob has outlined some very valid points.
Secondly, Ali had a very successful career outside of football before he started commentating so saying he forged a career on the back of MFC and that he's a chancer is total b0llox
Thirdly, Proof will be in the pudding but I'd back Ali to pay to watch like anybody else should he be required.
As Ali can't answer back I'll stand his corner

Winston_Spangler Posted on 10/7 17:54
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Graham Fordy was definately part of the negotiating team.

wilfym Posted on 10/7 20:29
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Rob and Erimus 11 and the like ....my opinion may seem unfair,but personally i dont think im talking out of my @rse....its an opinion!!!
Great the bloke did some work for the junior reds ....good for him but some people talk like hes the voice of the fans .....what a load of bollox.....why should i feel sorry that hes not doing commentary anymore,it will have no effect whatsoever on my support for my club.
Good riddance is what i say and id make him pay double for his ticket!
As for paying his dues so have many others...

wilfym Posted on 10/7 20:29
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Rob and Erimus 11 and the like ....my opinion may seem unfair,but personally i dont think im talking out of my @rse....its an opinion!!!
Great the bloke did some work for the junior reds ....good for him but some people talk like hes the voice of the fans .....what a load of bollox.....why should i feel sorry that hes not doing commentary anymore,it will have no effect whatsoever on my support for my club.
Good riddance is what i say and id make him pay double for his ticket!
As for paying his dues so have many others...

ColinBellEnd Posted on 10/7 21:38
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Its interesting this thread as a casual observer and watcher of oipinion on here.

I may be wrong but during the season there seems to be lot of stick going the way of these two blokes way and lik epoliticians who die thwy get accoldaes when its all over.

Fact is things move on and 11 years is a pretty good stint.

erimus11 Posted on 10/7 22:07
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Wilf "Great the bloke did some work for the junior reds ....good for him but some people talk like hes the voice of the fans .....what a load of bollox....."
I would never claim that he was - my point remains that you stated he'd forged a career on the back of MFC and I dispute that - would you have been comfortable having a career "forged on the back of MFC" in 1986?
As for not feeling sorry for him, I respect your opinion and Im not advocating that anybody should but I don't think this thread is about feeling sorry for anybody apart from the Boro public who are saying that they are losing out by not having Century provide the commentaries next season

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trodbitch Posted on 10/7 22:15
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"he forks out £500 brick for a ticket or manages to slither his way into some other "media" position to gain entry to games"

Some people take the friggin biscuit! Ali Brownlee is a boro fan through and through. He lives and breathes boro. The idea that he did the commentary to get free access to matches is ludicrous.

The_Goatie Posted on 10/7 22:19
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Look forward to seeing a fresh approach to Boro match broadcasting rather than the now rather stale approach of the infamous duo.

RavsDad Posted on 10/7 22:35
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wilfym

What a dozy get. Do you actually go to games? Do you object to all media who gain access to games as part of their job or is it just Brownlee you despise?

I think you'll find that Alistair Brownlee is more popular than several notable club officials. Let's have Fordy, Allen and the stewards all paying entry. Well it'd get my vote.

ccole Posted on 10/7 22:48
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If I was doing the job, I would like to think that my style would be more in that of Brownlie than Slaven.

Brownlie comes across that he really is doing it because he loves the Boro.

Fair play to him.

motherofallcomebaks Posted on 10/7 22:55
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Got to be good for the town no more Mr Celtic big shot shouting the odds. Lets Have Mr born in Boro Gary Gill take over and tell it like it is. Let Slaven put his kilt back on and do one up the road to Scotland where he came from.

onedeanglover Posted on 11/7 0:36
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Great comments about Ali and Bernie. But to be honest the buck stops with the Radio Station. Radio stations are not making a great deal in advertising and alot of shows are broadcast from London and syndicated.

The MD of Century (Owners GMG) John Myers came on air to "give their side of the story" and lets face it they want to be looked upon as the injured party,they want to protect their listeners in the south of the region. Century has always been regarding as a Newcastle station, that's why they went for the commentary in the first place. Now they realise they are going to lose the market share of listeners when football is on. This means a loss in revenue to advertisers, but that is their choice.

The Fact - Century want out of football and will NOT renew Newcastle and Sunderland when the deals run out. They are even thinking of pulling the plug on the Man Utd exclusive rights. Football is global and century is local (apart from www) and its not worth the money. They didn't bid for the rights until Friday, put in a poor bid as a token gesture and LOST. The club went for the money and rightly so. This has nothing to do with Ali and Bernie or MFC it's Century and deep down Bernies knows it, but is not willing to say anything on air as he will follow gatesy to the garden for gardening leave.

The Legends will run until the Autumn and then the plug will be pulled too.

howardtjmoon Posted on 11/7 4:25
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Great comments about Ali and Bernie. But to be honest the buck stops with the Radio Station. Radio stations are not making a great deal in advertising and alot of shows are broadcast from London and syndicated.

The MD of Century (Owners GMG) John Myers came on air to "give their side of the story" and lets face it they want to be looked upon as the injured party,they want to protect their listeners in the south of the region. Century has always been regarding as a Newcastle station, that's why they went for the commentary in the first place. Now they realise they are going to lose the market share of listeners when football is on. This means a loss in revenue to advertisers, but that is their choice.

The Fact - Century want out of football and will NOT renew Newcastle and Sunderland when the deals run out. They are even thinking of pulling the plug on the Man Utd exclusive rights. Football is global and century is local (apart from www) and its not worth the money. They didn't bid for the rights until Friday, put in a poor bid as a token gesture and LOST. The club went for the money and rightly so. This has nothing to do with Ali and Bernie or MFC it's Century and deep down Bernies knows it, but is not willing to say anything on air as he will follow gatesy to the garden for gardening leave.

The Legends will run until the Autumn and then the plug will be pulled too.
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What an utter arse of a post.

I like posts more when the person posting them has some idea of what the bejesusing christ they're talking about.

Apart from the chart show (which stations all over the North East have syndicated FOREVER) none of the shows come from London!

John Myers isn't the MD of Century, but the CEO of GMG Radio.

If Century want out of football, why bother getting the rights for Sunderland? Really?

And why ever, ever take the gamble that Century would trade 12 years of audience, sponsorship, marketing and goodwill for a commentary that they've never owned?

It's nonsense. The club sells the rights. They decided to sell them to the wrong person.

McLeans_Mick Posted on 11/7 7:28
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Sorry Howard but thats absolute tosh. Century dont want to be in football at all

Cant blmae the Boro for this one bit. Why have they sold them to the wrong company anyway? Clevelands commentary is as professional as any

wool_skull Posted on 11/7 7:50
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What seems to be the problem here ?

Century Radio made a decision that, being a Newcastle based station, they needed more exposure in the south of their region and so they did the Boro commentary thing.

They now have that extra exposure (and are aware that they will lose a lot) and Sunderland have begun to make their mark so they will now try to expand their listening figures in that area. After all, it's a bigger 'city' than Boro with, potentially, more listeners.

Therefore, a commercial decision and nothing to do with the calibre of the commentary or the Boro making any decision on the matter.

Why is that so difficult for you conspiracy theorists to understand ?

Boateng_7 Posted on 11/7 10:02
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The thing is though Gary Gill was absolute rubbish as a player and Bernie been connected to the club for years has been given the short straw, He even has Gibbo's number FFS!

bandito Posted on 11/7 10:04
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the whole club v century situation has turned quite nasty.

onedeanglover Posted on 11/7 10:06
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HEY LIGHTEN UP HOWARD.

I posted that comment to try to get the fans to not turn on the club. Yeah the club made the decision but if century put in a naff bid, who are you gonna give the rights too? I was simply saying Century don't want to take the rights on.

Sorry for the John Myers Error, he is indeed CEO of GMG. As for shows from London, I think you'll find ITS NOT just the chart show FACT!

Century do want away from football and the Sunderland commentary is a smoke screen. But hey, don't take my word for it, wait and see.

As for the Beeb, They have the fire in the belly nopw and I think yu'll find the programming will step up a notch and prove they are not the drab station (for sport) they are portrayed as.

Boateng_7 Posted on 11/7 10:07
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I think there we be an inevitable backlash and hopefully the club will go back and agree a deal with Century.

crazybeautiful Posted on 11/7 12:19
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But the club want to work with the Beeb, Radio Clevo do the fans forums and stuff, there's more on offer than Century could possibly give. Surely that's a good thing?

nel_boro Posted on 11/7 12:20
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They do say opposites attract.

Ali Red tinted glasses wearer

Bernie Tells you as it is - wether you like it or not.

Ive enjoyed listening to them over the years and I cant imagine the Radio Cleveland commentary being anywhere near as good

sasboro Posted on 11/7 12:24
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cleveland will need to have the good and bad fan commentators. I mean if we lose to someone 3-0, one of them has to point out where the problems were. its dull if both say we were unlucky and so on.

howardtjmoon Posted on 11/7 13:15
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Yeah the club made the decision but if century put in a naff bid, who are you gonna give the rights too? I was simply saying Century don't want to take the rights on.
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How do you know?

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Sorry for the John Myers Error, he is indeed CEO of GMG. As for shows from London, I think you'll find ITS NOT just the chart show FACT!
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One weekend show comes out of London, two weekend shows come out of Manchester. That's it. Get your facts right.

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Century do want away from football and the Sunderland commentary is a smoke screen. But hey, don't take my word for it, wait and see.
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Sober up.

theboydom Posted on 11/7 14:25
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cleveland will need to have the good and bad fan commentators. I mean if we lose to someone 3-0, one of them has to point out where the problems were. its dull if both say we were unlucky and so on.


nice to know you're not bothered about the facts getting in the way of a good match report, sas. is it just as dull if they both say we were lucky if we won 3-0?

in your example, should one of them lie or exaggerate even if the truth was that we WERE unlucky?

i stopped listenming to century because i could no longer pay the match my full attention for the full 90 minutes, and i got tired of running to the radio, thinking a goal had been scored, only to find out the ball had gone out for a really, really exciting corner

also, as i was not going to as many games, bernie's politically motivated negativity began to get on my t***s. the number of times he would not give a man of the match award because they had all been rubbish, i could laugh at when i had been to the game, but when i was sat at home with only him and ally to listen to, and then i would find out from friends who had been there what a load of tripe bernie's view of the game was.

my wife prefers century, but she knows nowt about football and just likes the excitement of the commentary compared to clevelands. when "the greatest australian since ned kelly" made his save, i was listening to cleveland in the kitchen, the wife was in the bedroom listening to century. we both enjoyed the moment just as much.

sasboro Posted on 11/7 14:34
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if we played crap you want one of the commentators to say we played crap and what went wrong. we dont want both commentators saying we were unlucky. that becomes like jordy fm and its a big turn off. you have to have both sides to it otherwise people switch off. why give a man of the match award if no one deserves it? which one out of gill and addison will get it in the neck from peopl eon here? could be gill as he was the origonal boo boy target and a lot of other fans wont remember him oir could be addison as he isnt such a loyal fan as brownnose and never played the game professsionally. presenters on tfm and cleveland (paul kerr) in the past have been just as negative.. you need that balance

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 11/7 14:43
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"You need that balance"


Try remembering that next time you post only solely negative stuff with a complete inability to see any positives.

fat_abbott Posted on 11/7 14:46
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Sas - Why isn't Addison "as loyal a fan as Brownlee?"

Do you know him and his past?

sasboro Posted on 11/7 14:48
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you mean how i've backed mark schwarzer over the years, even before this summer and his spat with smac. always backed southgate as a player, always backed arca, always backed pogi when he was eventually moved to centre back, backed yakubu, always backed the club on how they sell uefa cup tickets, stuck up for keith lamb when people like to blame him for stuff that is not his decision, i thought morrison was gonna make it last season, never slag of boateng...i can go on.

wilfym Posted on 11/7 15:30
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RAVS DAD...Yes i actually go to games though what bearing that has on messrs brownlee and slaven losing their commentary jobs i dont know....
Someone posted ali is boro through and through....well so am i...so are messrs addison and gill i would care to guess...
I implied he forged a career on the back of Mfc ,well ok he hasnt then?
My initial post was a bit of a wind up but as ever on here people want jump to defend a percieved bastion of the club and all his good deeds...
Lets be honest about it hes made a pretty good living out of following his fav football team and turned himself into a z list celebrity in the process.
Good luck to him,but am i saddened by centurys commentary demise......no!

Boateng_7 Posted on 14/8 14:36
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any thoughts now the season has started?

Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 14/8 15:08
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Is there a new Century phone in on a Sunday or something?

Good call on the legends last night;
"Bernie that new commentary is rubbish. I Switched it off at half time and went to watch the rest of the game in the pub".
Didn`t think of actually going then?

jiltedjiff Posted on 14/8 15:11
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Can't coment really.

Listening live over the web was not available on BBC Tees due to "contractual reasons"!

RedWurzel Posted on 14/8 15:17
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I missed them on Saturday evening. Normally listen to them in the car down the A19 from 530pm till 6pm after the game. I tend to agree with Bernie on 90% of matters, Brownlee on 50%. Radio Cleveland was all Hartlepool at 5.30pm. I did think Brownlee was losing his marbles in th elast 2 seasons and Bernie was steadily getting more negative, but they are entertainers to most Boro fans while the BBC is ok, but its more staid.