| ste_north_stand Posted on 9/7 14:46 | |
| Good riddance Slaven | |
You sad, bitter and twisted man. | |
| Tom_Fun Posted on 9/7 14:47 | |
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Bit harsh. At least he was mildly entertaining. The Radio Cleveland lads send me to sleep. | |
| jofus53 Posted on 9/7 14:48 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
can someone elaborate. take it he's left century? | |
| ste_north_stand Posted on 9/7 14:48 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
Never listened to Radio Cleveland for a full game i don't think so can't comment. Brownlee was entertaining at times, Slaven was just a doyle IMO. | |
| BossHogg Posted on 9/7 14:56 | |
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"You sad, bitter and twisted man" If anyone's bitter and twisted it would appear to be YOU!!! | |
| sasboro Posted on 9/7 14:58 | |
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i still dont understand why people are thinking slaven is bitter and twisted. He is still good mates with gibson and lamb who were there when he was there. so if he is bitter and twisted then it must be in the direction of them 2. but dont see how it is. | |
| karembeu_ca Posted on 9/7 15:12 | |
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well sas, thats coming from you though, its unlikely you would notice his negative bias 
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| Big_Shot Posted on 9/7 15:22 | |
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It makes no odds to me who has the commentary as I listen to neither. But on a matchday whilst the rest of us go straight out for a drink after the match, one of the lads goes home first then comes out a bit later. In this time he catches the post match stuff on Century. I've lost count the amount of times he's came in and asked who we thought Slaven had gave MOM to and nobody has managed to guess it. | |
| Bukowski_MFC Posted on 9/7 15:28 | |
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ste_north_stand - You never saw him play at Ayresome Park I'd wager. Otherwise you wouldn't posted such a spiteful message. Slaven was a legend for us as a player and still loves the club and area. He could be a bit outspoken at times on the radio and even I as a pessimist used to think he went a bit over the top at times. However, his comments came from a good place and ultimately the Ali and Bernie combination made for entertaining radio more often than not. | |
| simon1586 Posted on 9/7 16:27 | |
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Why is Slaven so disliked? Is it because he doesn't just blindly gush praise for the club the whole time? | |
| Unbelievable_Jeff Posted on 9/7 16:30 | |
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Exactly, some people wont have a bad word said about the club. Even if its blatantly obvious. | |
| ste_north_stand Posted on 9/7 16:36 | |
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Bukowski i am 25 so i only have vague memories of him playing and yes he was a legend but that has nothing to do with him as a radio personality. He has spouted nothing but negative garbage the whole time i've ever heard him and as a radio personality i'm glad we won't hear him anymore. Boro legend or not. | |
| Big_Shot Posted on 9/7 16:43 | |
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The last time I heard Slaven was going to a night game earlier this year. I decided to go in the car so listened to Century on my way down. Anyway Slaven is having a rant about why isn't Morrison in the side. A lad rings up and Slaven quickly changes the subject back to Morrison and the lad just agreed with him. Now anyone who watchs the Boro knows that Morrison has just had a very poor season, but to be fair to him he wasn't playing in his correct position. But his non selection was made out to be some big mistake and his poor form was not even mentioned. My point is, he come's out with some absolute rubbish at times, like all pundits do to be fair, but some people just won't have a word said against him. | |
| karembeu_ca Posted on 9/7 17:50 | |
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"I've lost count the amount of times he's came in and asked who we thought Slaven had gave MOM to and nobody has managed to guess it." that's because he seems to invariably pick the goalie or a defender, even in games we win or are easily the best team. and forget 'becuase he doesnt gush ABOUT us' - more likely because he never has a good word to say, regardless. | |
| rocky_1986 Posted on 9/7 18:05 | |
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"You sad, bitter and twisted man." Well, that is certainly interesting and in my opinion a very strange view on him. Personally I liked him, he speaks his mind, doesn't beat around the bush and most importantly speaks a lot of sense. He spoke like a fan. I think that is is VERY disappointing to lose him and Ali from the radio. | |
| Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 9/7 18:17 | |
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'You sad, bitter and twisted man.' Best describes the original poster, for not being able to handle some of Slaven's criticism of his beloved team. | |
| Celestron Posted on 9/7 19:00 | |
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Sadly Slav never changed the record every game nothing but whinge, whinge, whinge it never changed even when we beat Bolton 5-1 he was still moaning that we should have had 7/8...glad he's gone. | |
| ayresomeangel365 Posted on 9/7 19:12 | |
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get a grip you moaning fookers...he's a true Boro legend ffs one of the nicest blokes youd ever want to meet...not like the prima donnas of today Bernie..you are and always will be a legend in my eyes mate | |
| Winston_Spangler Posted on 9/7 19:15 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
He generally gave MOTM to Arca and Viduka last season. Particularly at home. And usually because they were our best players on the pitch. | |
| The_O_Bus Posted on 9/7 19:36 | |
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Slaven is a Boro fan,most of the time i agree with him anyway --- Post edited by The_O_Bus on 9/7 19:37 --- | |
| GtBB Posted on 9/7 19:38 | |
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Bernie equals legend to fans of a certain vintage, however, the Robson Revolutionaries knew him only as an opinionated talkshow host, the ying to Ali's yang. For every extreme opinion there is an equal and opposite opinion, as Isaac Newton might have said if radios had been around then. He knew where the goal was, every bit as well as Yakubu and at a fraction of the price. | |
| Mr_Incident Posted on 9/7 19:42 | |
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Maybe his legendary status had a direct effect on his punditry style - desperately trying to keep himself in the limelight. I've often seen things differently to him. I think he's a reactionary and a pure drama queen, possibly because he knows it's good for ratings or possibly because he's just like that. I don't know. Whatever though, it's a shame him and Brownlee won't be on the air next season, for listener choice if nothing else. | |
| RavsDad Posted on 9/7 19:46 | |
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The Ultra Boro thought Police are out in force and uniting against Slaven I see. Well ste_north_stand, someone will always have an opinion which may conflict with your own. And here's another. If you prefer a wooly, boring, non-contencious drone, then MFC have chosen well. (for you). | |
| Gingerpig1 Posted on 9/7 19:46 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
Can someone tell me of a time the bloke kissed asre at games, because as a fan of more years than i care to remember, i can't remember the lad toadying aroung anyone from MFC. Called it as he saw it, sometimes wrong .......mostly right IMHO, said many of the things fans around me were saying. Played with distinction for the club, has a passion for the place I sometimes wonder what some fans want? Has'nt done a Pally etc who'll go to a freebie @ the Boro......then pop up @ a Man U game and talk lovingly of Old trafford. Some people want to realise its not a crime to be critical at times of the club, and he was'nt scared to do so. Cheers Bern for yer efforts on and off the field at the boro. | |
| GtBB Posted on 9/7 19:51 | |
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Yep, no radio commentary, fewer internet streaming matches (as yet). The options are shrinking rapidly if you want any Boro action. Might have to buy a ticket now like Bernie. | |
| ste_north_stand Posted on 9/7 19:51 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
RavsDad as i say i don't listen to Radio Cleveland, very rarely listened to Century over the last couple of years simply because of his negative, stick the knife in opinions. I don't care how good a player he was (my memories of him as a player are sketchy as i wasn't old enough) he is in my opinion an awful pundit and as i have already said, good riddance. | |
| The_Commisar Posted on 9/7 20:06 | |
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Slaven is/was absolutely predictable. MOM - it will go to; A boro youth, If no boro youth playing then an english player, and then through gritted teeth a foreigner. He has, or had, an agenda. He came across as someone deeply jealous of anyone coming in and making money from the club, why ? Perhaps because he missed out on the big money. I watched him in the post 86 days. He was a selfish s**te who would push his granny over to get the ball in the box. He had the work rate of a slug with MS, but always managed to get on the end of a cross. Someone in FMTTM said he had all the natural aggression of Winnie the Pooh. He sulked if was not playing. At the end of his career he was told to play with the the youths to stop him affecting other players. He had tremendous ability, but lets look at it another way. He could have worked harder and gone on to a bigger stage. Why didn't he ? In the current market he would command a good fee at his height. However, he cannot commentate on a match in anything like a meaningful manner. Lets put it this way, if his commentaries were drawing in large audiences then theres no way Century would have got rid. | |
| LeeHamo Posted on 9/7 20:16 | |
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Well I think the BBC probably offered MFC more money than Century ever could to host boro matches. Im sad about it cause I really enjoyed bernie and ali's commentary. I have absolutely no idea who the guys are who commentate on BBc radio, if it was them who were on last year then they are crap compared to Century. More passion on century, miles more. Heres the statement on Centuryfm.com... Statement by Debbie Bowman, Managing Director, Century fm It is disappointing after 12 years not to be involved in the Middlesbrough commentary next season and also on a personal level for Ali Brownlee as it would have been his 25th year of commentary and for Bernie, who with Ali, won the Gold Award at the New York Festival Awards and completed their 500th Middlesbrough commentary last season. We wanted to continue to deliver the commentary but at the end of the day, the club has announced that they are doing an exclusive deal with the BBC. We wish the club well and pledge our continued support to the club and the fans. Just because Century fm will not be broadcasting the commentary next season, doesn’t mean our commitment to the club and the fans is in any way diminished. It was our intention to broadcast all three North East premiership football commentaries next season, which would have delivered incisive commentary to all fans across the region. | |
| Gingerpig1 Posted on 9/7 20:24 | |
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Commy; He was a selfish s**te who would push his granny over to get the ball in the box. Good goalscorers do? Someone in FMTTM said he had all the natural aggression of Winnie the Pooh. Obviously that person made the grade as a pro then?......Gary Lineker kicked peoples balls off Did'nt he? He sulked if was not playing. I fkin want them to be unhappy, don't you? He had tremendous ability, but lets look at it another way. He could have worked harder and gone on to a bigger stage. Why didn't he ? Or maybe has was at the limit of his ability? Its about ££££££,simple really,bbc paid for exclusive rights, and lets see if anthing goes t1ts up whether Kerr etc have the gonads to mention it .................i doubt it . --- Post edited by Gingerpig1 on 9/7 20:25 --- | |
| flakey_scrotum Posted on 9/7 21:06 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
I couldn't give a flying fook what opinions come out of the Slaven mouth.....he is like everyone else....he has opinions....plus he has (or had) a job to do.....and that includes generating debates on the phone-in! ....he doesn't want people to agree with him....otherwise who would phone in and listen! anyway....remember this all you who slag him off.....he was one of the main men when our club died and likewise he was one of the main men when we rose from the dead. He played in an era when money wasn't king.....yeah he probably earned a good living at the time....but he played in the team that gave us our pride back.....when the club and the town was on the bones of it's a*se! ....what is more, he scored goals....important goals....his goals won us promotion....and STOPPED US FROM BEING RELEGATED BACK TO THE 3RD DIVISION! ....he is a fookin legend and show some fookin' repsect to the man! | |
| ElvisRamone Posted on 9/7 21:12 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
Hear! Hear! | |
| Juventus3 Posted on 9/7 21:14 | |
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"he was one of the main men when our club died and likewise he was one of the main men when we rose from the dead. He played in an era when money wasn't king.....yeah he probably earned a good living at the time....but he played in the team that gave us our pride back.....when the club and the town was on the bones of it's a*se" Great words. Well said that man. | |
| Scrote Posted on 9/7 21:18 | |
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why does his being a legend on the pitch have to reflect on people's opinion of him off it? its hardly surprising how the regular posters have polarised on this one - the negatives think he is great and the positives think he is piss poor (as a commentator) personally i think he is shocking - not only as a commentator (and "expert" summariser) but also as a supposedly knowledgable ex-professional and part time journalist - his lack of knowledge about the modern game is appalling especially when maming a fool of himself (and by association mfc) on the 3 legends great player; crap media personality | |
| ste_north_stand Posted on 9/7 21:18 | |
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If he turned out to be a mass child murderer would you all still lick his arse and not have a bad word said about him? The point isn't about what he did as a player, he is a Boro legend and everyone accepts that. It's about his constant negativity as a pundit. | |
| Gingerpig1 Posted on 9/7 21:26 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
Just a thought ...............name me a better option around here? ffs no gary gills or paul kerr's ....the only other option i know who's not s scared to say his bit is T Cochrane | |
| West_Coast Posted on 9/7 21:34 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
I am appalled by the juvenile level of insult and abuse that has poured into this message board for Bernard Slaven hardly a mention of Ali either. Those two have produced quirky sometimes annoying sometimes amatuerish reports and comment for many years. They have always added something to the pot and have been a boon to expatriate fans. The most dissapointing aspect is the generally low level of comment from fans in post match phone ins. No wonder they talk over them. I am sad they have lost the contract because Radio Cleveland commentaries like many other local radio are bland and annodyne by comparison. It is another disastrous decision by whoever is running MFC at present, I suspect Steve Gibson must have taken a sabatical. | |
| roarythelion Posted on 10/7 0:04 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
I'd like to echo the sentiments of gingerpig and flakey_scrotum, you can really tell the posters who were around in the tough times and have due respect for the man. Being a great and loyal player for the boro doesn't mean you goingt o be liked as a commentator but, as jamie carragher said on talksport today, footballs about opinions, Bernie is certainly entitled to his. I'll miss his and Ali's commentaries. Commisar, i really have to question from your posts on several subjects, are you on a constant wind up ? | |
| leemundo Posted on 10/7 0:20 | |
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Well Bernie and Ali were great radio. Truely entertaining and with Ali's biased shout and Bernie's perspective on things it was a well balanced show. People dont like Bernie or Ali but then again the people who moan about Bernie actually moan about the Boro themselves. I quit the Riverside for several personal reasons but for several reasons involving moaning bitter twisted boro fans who either claim that it was better in their day when no-one used to go (1980's era) OR the people who jumped on the band wagon and because of that we dont sing anymore. Bernie and Ali i will certainly miss and we all remember the famous commentry from the UEFA cup and cup finals of the past. Good Luck to you both. | |
| Brick_Tamland Posted on 10/7 6:41 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
I thought Alistair and Bernie worked well and were the soundtrack to 12 years at the Riverside. Although I tended to have Jeff Stelling and co on on Saturday afternoons when we were away, I am sure lots of fans will be sorry to see them go. If Bernie didn't love the Boro then he probably would have stopped co-commentating a long time ago. | |
| The_Commisar Posted on 10/7 6:50 | |
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R Lion you can question all you like. Slaven is a gob on a stick. Bernie can have all the opinions he likes, it doesn't make them accurate or realistic. And if it's all about opinions, great, you can listen to mine for a while. Give Slaven some respect ? Respect ? FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Slaven has my respect as a player, he went on the pitch and did the job. But no amount of rose tinted nostalgia can cover up the drivel he comes out with. As a commentator he's straight from the "It's a knock out" school. Oh and as for the "well you can't have been there in the bad times" school of thought, 76 onwards thank you very much. Followed the Boro in the thin, thinner and the thinner than Kate Moss's G string years. Get Real! | |
| br14 Posted on 10/7 6:56 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
Sounds like just constantly wound up
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| Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/7 8:40 | |
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He's only been saying the same as a lot of Boro fans. He's criticised the style of play, the effort of certain individuals, the all round team performance etc. but only because it was deserved. His criticism has been mirrored by the drop in ticket sales. We need a reporter who's not in the club's pocket. | |
| zaphod Posted on 10/7 8:49 | |
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Doesn't he post on here as sasboro? | |
| Chappy_112 Posted on 10/7 8:56 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
Why are people talking about him when he played? It doesn't take away from the fact that he loved being negative about MFC. Big_Shot summed it up with the man of the match comments. | |
| SmellMyCheez Posted on 10/7 9:00 | |
| re: Good riddance Slaven | |
I'll miss the banter between those two. Love or loathe Bernie and Ali, they were a great foil for each other, Ali with his rose-tinted specs, Bernie with his healthy dose of realism. One things for sure, if Bernie goes out the door of the Legends phone-in, they might as well pull the plug on it becuase he's the only one of three with any kind of personality, regardless of whether you agree with his opinions. Malcolm MacDonald is utterly cl-cl-cl-cl-clueless as a ra-ra-ra-ra-io presenter (how he's got away with it for so long I don't know), and the tiddler sound like ome guy they dragged in off the street (to be fair he needs time to bed in). Bernie, Malcolm and Eric between them did end up greater than the sum of the individual parts, but if Bernie leaves the Leg-Ends, I'll be tuning to Classic FM on the way home from work from now on! | |
