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Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 17/7 9:09
Bernie Is Worried About The New Season
For those who missed the Legends last night, Bernie said;

"We`ve changed the strike force, changed the strip, changed the badge - lets hope we`re not going to change our premiership status as well, cos without another 3 quality players i`m worried about our chances next season".

Pessimist or realist?

ray192 Posted on 17/7 9:10
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Tvvat comes to mind .

Boromart Posted on 17/7 9:11
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he's a negative asshole pure and simple.

teesste Posted on 17/7 9:12
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He won't care because now he's not being paid to go to the games he probably won't go! If today was the day after transfer deadline day i would probably be a little bit concerned but as we've still got 6 fookin weeks to go just sit back, chill out and wait for something to happen!

McCann_87 Posted on 17/7 9:14
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Yes we have 6 weeks left to get new players in, but the fact is if we dont get anyone in, then he does have a point, but hopefully we will get some new players in and not just squad players either, players who can actually challenge for a first team place.

MarlonD Posted on 17/7 9:15
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I listened to the Legends for the 1st time in ages the other night. I switched it off within 20 seconds of a Boro fan moaning about everything.

Hosted by tvvats, phone in full of bigger hairier tvvats.

Big_Shot Posted on 17/7 9:18
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I wonder if he says the same in his Gazette column? Apparently he slated Aliadiere on the radio but said he'd be a key player in the Gazette.

teesste Posted on 17/7 9:18
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Lets stop worrying about IF wedon't do this and IF we don't do that!! Fookin hell we coulod've just spent over £10m on a championship centre forward and a Man U reserve but instead for the same amount we've signed Woody Tuncay and Aliadiere!!! When was the last time we had so many signings in the bag by this time of year???

Brick_Tamland Posted on 17/7 9:20
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If Yak decides that's it for goals in mid-February then we could be in troubel. I am not entirely sure where we are going to make up Viduka's sizeable contribution to last season's tally. I would love to see DGL and Aliadiere both do well on the goals front but this is a bit of a gamble.
Tuncay, in his 'floating' role, will get goals I'm sure but he can't do everything and he sounds like he creates as much as he scores.

Defensively we are a mixed bag. Huth and Woodgate are very good. I like Pogatetz but I just think he looks a bit cumbersome at times and needs Woodgate alongside him. Taylor had a very good first season in the side but is young and is sometimes understandably hesitant. Davies gives his all and does well but seems more at home at centre-half. We need a recognised RB.

There are plenty of positives and relegation is improbable in my eyes but I can see what Bernie is getting at. Even though Viduka leaving means we may be forced to try a new system that could be more exciting to watch, we will miss a proven Premiership goalscorer. If Yak does leave, though I doubt that he will be allowed to, then I think we will finish at least 6 places lower in the table and that could be disastrous.

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badbradderz Posted on 17/7 9:20
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he's right....as things stand.

truth is, there are 6 weeks but the squad we CURRENTLY have is lopsided and lacking in numerous positions.

im not panicking yet but i am concerned until we bring in more players, and thats not pessimism, thats realism because until we do sign people, then we have to go with what we've got, and with Southgate intimating he would be happy to do that then i'll remain concerned until the situation changes.

but 6 weeks is a long time, come on boro!

Steaknife Posted on 17/7 9:26
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If we don't sign a right back and a right winger he may have a point. We played last season without a proper rhs and it is inexcusable if we start the new season without one.

Boromart Posted on 17/7 9:46
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Big_Shot, what you say just highlights the guy talks rubbish to be controversial. A real Boro fan wouldn't sell out his love of the club to belittle it on air.

...and slating a player that hasn't even pulled a shirt on for us yet is an embarrassing thing for an ex-pro to do.

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grantus Posted on 17/7 9:54
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Boromart I couldn't disagree more. A real Boro fan would not keep his concerns to himself if he had the platform to air them. A real Boro fan could understandably be disappointed at the aquisition of Aliadiere, as he failed at Arsenal (not saying he wont do well).

Selling out the club? Embarrasing?

I like the fact that Bernie does not sit on the fence or kiss the backside of everyone in the game, like many radio and TV sports presenters and pundits do.

It is too early to panic, but it's getting late to bring in new faces and have them up to speed for the start of the season. Plus as Southgate has said, the squad is very small and the backup is very inexperienced. Without some quality additions, a few injuries could prove disasterous for us this season.

I understand his concerns and to a certain degree, I agree with them.

Remember, he works on talk radio, what do you expect him to talk about? the heather on the moors?

FFS

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 17/7 10:17
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How did he slate Aliadiere on the radio? Was that according to someone on here, if so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. He may have said his record in the Premiership isn't good, which is not a long way from the truth is it?

I like Slaven, mainly because he gets the ra-ra's backs up on here.

bandito Posted on 17/7 10:18
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You have to love Bernie. He gets more air time on here than he does on radio. If that is what he thinks then fine, get over yourselves.

sasboro Posted on 17/7 10:23
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It seems a daily thing on here that a new thread is started off slagging off Slaven. Same old answers like he is a celtic fan(how often does he go and watch celtic these days), he wouldnt pay to watch boro, he has made a living off the back of boro, gets in for free,got a chip on his shoulder,his kids arent really boro fans,axe to grind..etc Atleast the ra-ras will have gary gill to moan at. will be like the old times at ayresome with the boo boys. Feel sorry for ali brownose, not sure what he will do next. but thats life!

bandito Posted on 17/7 10:24
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He will be going to games next season and he's buying a season ticket for him and his kids in the west stand. He said he will drive to away games and pick me up.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 17/7 10:26
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Only met him a couple of times Bandy, both outside the Wetherby Whaler, came across as a good bloke.

bandito Posted on 17/7 10:29
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the Whaler is the usual stop off so ali can buy his jumbo cod and also and extra one to warm up when he gets home!

maturesmogette Posted on 17/7 10:34
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Agree with every word you said Boromart. Bernie is like so many so called "Boro supporters" I have to put up with. Because they know I am a season ticket holder and long time supporter they do their best to get my back up and belittle the team and club. What really gets to me is the fact that the majority of these people are armchair supporters but they have their opinion on everything to do with the club and every player even though they might only see the highlights on TV. The sad thing is that they think I should give a toss what they think. I point out that they should put their money where their mouth is and really support the club by going to see them play. They then of course say that they would not pay to see that load of s**** and I am a fool fot doing so. I enjoyed watching Bernie play and he was a big favourite of mine but I can't stand to hear him slagging off the club now.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 17/7 10:36
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I hope he gets sorted out with a job, BBC Tees coud do worse than team him up with Cox again. I don't agree with all that he says, but he makes the game sound exciting.

sasboro Posted on 17/7 10:38
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i dont understand why all these slaven haters continue to listen to century with him on. No one forces you to listen! there are alternatives. Sounds like most of you listen nearly every night or listen on a match day. Slaven seems to be doing his job!

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 17/7 10:38
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Maybe you should take that rose tinted hearing aid out and listen to what he really says.

bandito Posted on 17/7 10:40
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Still find it staggering how people can justify having a pop at Bernie just because he says things which might be deemed negative. His negativity stems from being a supporter of Middlesbrough and genuinely caring about what happens. Just deal with his opinions. They arent even that controversial ffs! He is basically saying what the average Joe has been saying for years and that we are clinically desperate on the right hand side.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 17/7 10:40
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Slaviola is good for a giggle. He's on-air to say controversial things and get people phoning in.

If he said things as "Boro were so-so today and we can't ask for more" and "I have nothing to criticise and sort of expected this performance today" then we wouldn't have lasted as long as he has on the airwaves.

BossHogg Posted on 17/7 10:44
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I 100% agree with him!

Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 17/7 10:48
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Why do people keep saying we have 6 weeks to bring someone in?
The season starts in 25 days - surely we want any new signings in place before the first ball is kicked.

Boromart Posted on 17/7 10:49
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I expect him to be a little more balanced Grantus, rather than over-reacting. He is over-reacting to get a bite from people, if we were 10 days from kick off and we still didn't have a right-mid and right-back then fair enough, but we are not. To slag off at this moment shows the guy is an idiot.

sas who mentioned celtic? your right though he is. The guys problem is that he just lacks any balance to his arguments. It's negative negative negative all the time....like one or two others on here. He may claim to be a 'fan' but he could never be classed as a 'supporter'.

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maturesmogette Posted on 17/7 10:49
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Absolutely wrong (about me anyway) Sasboro. I think the 3 Legend is absolute rubbish and stopped listening to it years ago. I only know what Slaven said on the programme last night because I read it on here today. I do listen to the away games however and all I can hear from Bernie is groans and sighs in the background as Alistair is trying to commentate. He just gives the morons I am talking about ammunition to throw at me because they believe everything he says is gospel. I usually end up turning to Radio Cleveland to get away from his wingeing so I for one am glad he has lost his cushy little number on Century.

Shaun71 Posted on 17/7 10:50
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Ideally yes but the likes of Zenden, Mendieta, Woodgate, Huth, Rochemback all came in after the season had started

Boromart Posted on 17/7 10:55
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sas, I'm not sure what your mean by saying that people come out with the same old arguments about slaven.

If people were to come out with different opinions every week then fair enough, but all I see are a lot of people with a consistent opinion of the man being a negative moaner.

He may be right in one or two of the things he has said, but he really has nothing positive to say about the club and the players that he is so jealous of.

grantus Posted on 17/7 10:56
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"I expect him to be a little more balanced Grantus, rather than over-reacting. He is over-reacting to get a bite from people, if we were 10 days from kick off and we still didn't have a right-mid and right-back then fair enough, but we are not. To slag off at this moment shows the guy is an idiot."


I hope you where touching wood then lad. Talk about tempting fate.

I'll put this back up in 16 days

Boromart Posted on 17/7 10:58
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sas are you aaying that 'slaven haters' should just switch of and not have an opion about him? rubbish he is a public figure and everyone has the right to have an opinion on his rants on OUR club.

Slaven may only be doing his job, like Andy Gray does his and Mark Lawrenceson does his....and they get slagged off also. The differance is Slaven preports to be 'one of us', therefore he will get a greater degree of slagging off.

sasboro Posted on 17/7 10:59
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But our league form wasnt that good last season and we struggled in the fa cup against lower league opposition and got knocked out of league cup early on at home. there were very few really good performances last season, probably bolton stands out. I'm not saying we were rubbish but we werent really that outstanding last season. only 3 or 4 games stand out. things were made to look a lot better as we had to crap teams to play at the end. for example prior to the last 2 games of the season we had only won 1 in 10 games(that was at home to watford). You must understand if you slag off slaven for being too negative then ali brownose deserves some stick for being over optimistic.

like i say boromart, a lot of people seem to listen to century even if they hate slaven that much. Its not as if century commentary was the only option.

with regards to same slaven threads, same thread appears on a daily bases now. follows the same pattern and responses



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Boromart Posted on 17/7 11:01
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I hope not Grantus. Of course we need the right sorted. At the very least a right midfielder. We can 'get by' with Davies, McMahon and Bates, we can't 'get by' with Cattermole, Mendi and Morrison on the right wing.

I am happy to give them time though, the transfer market closes in about 10 weeks, but I will be disappointed if we don't get at least 1 more in before the Blackburn game.

sasboro Posted on 17/7 11:06
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this 'slagging us of' thing by slaven is not unique to him, i've heard jeff winter,terry cochrance on tfm and paul kerr do it on radio cleveland. I think its just because century is more popular to listen to so gets noticed.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 17/7 11:08
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10 weeks? They must have put 4 extra weeks in August.

bandito Posted on 17/7 11:11
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A message to all the Slaven knockers- you know who you are and so doi I cos I see you creeping on here with your biased opinions everyday as soon as Slavens name is mentioned. Anyway, despite the bull about him being negative nageative negative, just try for one minute to think about all the times he has said positive things and you'll probably find that it balances out. What about the number of times he's got over excited about Woodgate, the number of times he has come out and praised Schwarzer, the good vibes he gets from taylor, the enthusiasm shown towards Arca and the over the top praise for Downing? Answer that please.

if you dont like someoen it's easy to make judgement and only see bad because thats the little bubble youve created for yourselves. Ring him up on the legends if you feel so strongly or wait til after the game outside instead of your petty bullschitt on here.

bernie can look after himself, he doesnt need anyone speaking up for him but some of the CRAP on here is bordering on embarassing. I actually feel embarassed for some of you, I really do because you've become brainwashed by reading into things too much.

Boromart Posted on 17/7 11:13
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Of course our form was patchy last year, like 12 other sides in the prem,

- Villa went 11 league games (thats a third of a season)without a win at one point,
- Man City couldn't score in a brothel,
- West Ham were awful until the last 6 weeks
- Bolton only won 2 of their last 9 home games and have lost their influential manager.

If critiscism is to be leveled then it has to be levelled evenly, outside the top 6 or 7 teams the rest could all be critisiced. Most of those teams had very few 'good performances'. That is the norm outside of Manure/Chelsea/Arse/Liverpoo and probably Spurs. Even Evertons performances were fairly tirged, but effective.

I think it's itrrelevant about having to play carp teams in the last few games, surely that means we had already played the difficult teams. It's a league you play the good sides and carp sides twice, it doesn't really matter when.

"You must understand if you slag off slaven for being too negative then ali brownose deserves some stick for being over optimistic."
Of course he does, he can be quite cringeworthy, but he doesn't go around talking about how we will challange for the league, he isn't as cuckoo as Bernie.

I don't listen to Century anymmore, but I can still have an opinion on Bernies rants.

Navs Posted on 17/7 11:13
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Brick,
Who is this DGL you referred to in your post???

Boromart Posted on 17/7 11:20
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Bandy your entitled to your opinion of the guy, and I'm entitled to mine, don';t feel embaressed because some people think he is hyper-critical and hyper-negative, there should be far more important things in your life, than my opinion on Bernhard Joseph Slaven. I would say that you seem brainwashed to the guys good traits, your in a 'defend the guy at all costs' bubble, and thats your prerogative - I'm not embaressed for you though.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of our opinions, as a minor celebrity his every comment is micro-analysed, and his persona affects opinions. But if your prepared to put yourself on the radio and earn money from your opinions then you are there to be shot at, like you say he is big enough to defend himself, and I'm sure a few remarks on a messageboard are not going to bother him.



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bear66 Posted on 17/7 11:40
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"We`ve changed the strike force, changed the strip, changed the badge - lets hope we`re not going to change our premiership status as well, cos without another 3 quality players i`m worried about our chances next season".

I agree.

Last season we probably had one of the 'best' combined strikeforces in the Premiership. Signings have not filled in any of the gaps that were badly exposed last season. Tuncay looks like a good player, but where will he fit in? Xavier will turn out to be a bigger loss than most people seem to suggest on this board. Viduka . . . is irreplacable (Mido!!!!); where is the new right sided player? Yes 3 quality players seems about right.