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ray192 Posted on 5/8 10:36
HOW'S THIS EVER RIGHT FFS.

My mate went to the Chinese friday night with his wife,whilst he was being served he left his wife outside to look after the dog a (collie)on a lead when a Rottweiler sp attacked his dog (by the throat causing punture wounds) the only way after hearing his wife call for help was to boot the fooking thing several times for it to let go!!!. When the dogs owner finally turned he went mad and threatened my mate with a baseball bat (big mistake on his part as my mate can handle himself to say the least). Anyway the police came and said as long as they paid the vets bill no more could be done this is never right surely ffs? .

boroproud Posted on 5/8 10:39
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You have to say a big thank you to the liberals who have taking over the country for that Ray!

number_10 Posted on 5/8 10:40
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Rottweilers should not be allowed as pets.

Horrible, vicious creatures.

Boroproud, typical ridiculous tory boy comment. Substantiate that comment.

boroproud Posted on 5/8 10:42
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Take a look around you number-10,words are not needed.

jk1311 Posted on 5/8 10:42
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it sounds as if the attending officers had enough paperwork to last the remainder of the shift. Theres always cases in the press where dangerous animals and their dogs are took to court to make an example of.

baldycrowe Posted on 5/8 10:42
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I can't get over the Police came,they don't turn up for fuckall,when i 've rang them,i'm lucky if they turn up next day.

Coluka Posted on 5/8 10:44
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Sorry to hear of your mates experience Hope is dog recovers both physically and psychologically from the attack.

Clearly dangerous - the barstard should be put down for that - In fact so should the fookin Rotweiller

ray192 Posted on 5/8 10:45
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We are now learning the dog has attacked other dogs aswell before surely it should be put down ffs .

ray192 Posted on 5/8 10:46
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Coluka

I agree his dog is so friendly aswell .

b0r0lad Posted on 5/8 10:47
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just a matter of time before its a small child

boroproud Posted on 5/8 10:47
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The dog is unable to read or write, therefore it will be sent off on a few jolly jaunts and given a ps3 to hopefully help mend its ways!

ray192 Posted on 5/8 10:48
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JK

I think your right there ffs .

ray192 Posted on 5/8 10:49
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Baldy

Lol i know what you mean but they did fook all anyway .

number_10 Posted on 5/8 10:52
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Ah I see, your beloved tories would sort this mess right out wouldn't they.

After all, vicious dogs, it's all down to illegal immigrants!!!!!11!

Anyway.... As I said, those dogs should not be allowed as pets. They're horrible, vicious creatures and a threat to people and other pets around them. If I had my way, they'd not be allowed as pets full stop.

boroproud Posted on 5/8 10:56
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well your beloved labour have done fook all to ease the problems!



but i do agree with you views on the dogs as pets.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:05
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bOrOlad

We've just been saying that aswell .

Holgate_Spikes Posted on 5/8 11:07
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Its not the dogs fault its the owners. Put that fooker to sleep first in my opinion.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:08
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H_S

My mates wife is blaming the owner.

Dosh_N_Pecks Posted on 5/8 11:09
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Humans aren't put down when they have a fight so surely you shouldn't put a dog down? Send it to some form of training / anger management.

Holgate_Spikes Posted on 5/8 11:10
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She's exactly right. Completely irresponsible. People like that shouldnt be allowed to keep animals. I hope your mate kicked seven shades out of him.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:13
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H_S

Not YET as the police came and did fookall . But it will not finish at that trust me retrebution will be made.

--- Post edited by ray192 on 5/8 11:14 ---

benidorm2boro Posted on 5/8 11:13
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;then the dogs owner turned up;why was this large animal out without the owner,surely that would have been the police mans first question?

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:15
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B_2_B

Exactly mate the police were not bothered .

boroproud Posted on 5/8 11:16
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"But it will not finish at that trust me retrebution will be made.2


Oh my God,,Ray do you realise the can of worms that will open when the liberal lot read that?

grocerygirl Posted on 5/8 11:17
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my friends shar pei was attacked and she didnt even get vets bills. its shocking and people who dont take full responsibility for, or full control of, their dogs shouldnt be allowed to keep them.

its a horrible feeling when your pet gets injured especially when another human is responsible

some idiot roofer who brought his dog to a job a few doors away from me was actually goading his dog to attack my cat and i even saw him set it on it. poor little pooki poos

gg

--- Post edited by grocerygirl on 5/8 11:18 ---

oh the police werent bothered about the loony dog tearing after my cat. im just glad my kids were out there.

--- Post edited by grocerygirl on 5/8 11:20 ---

number_10 Posted on 5/8 11:17
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I'm not defending labour, I just don't see why people on here (particularly of the right persuasion) feel the need to use topics like this as a way to pedal their political views. For any government, something like this is one of the lowest priorities. It's probably more down to the coppers involved anyway. It all just sounds like shoddy police work to me.

Hope the little collie is alright.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:18
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B_p

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benidorm2boro Posted on 5/8 11:19
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well ray,i think i would be down at the local nick asking a few questions of my own,going by what you have said here,any magistrate would convict the owner for keeping a dangerous dog,and by the sound of the owners attitude in the matter he should be brought to boot.

Dosh_N_Pecks Posted on 5/8 11:19
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FFS what's happening to the world. A dog has attacked another one and drew blood. It's hardly a solar eclipse, these things happen.

What do you plan to do, start the next world war? Get over it.

Dosh_N_Pecks Posted on 5/8 11:20
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any magistrate would convict the owner for keeping a dangerous dog,and by the sound of the owners attitude in the matter he should be brought to boot.

I can assure you they wouldn't. Dog attacking a dog like this would not result in any such action.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:21
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N_10

Thanks for that and i agree the police should have done something ffs .

Holgate_Spikes Posted on 5/8 11:21
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Yes but it all boils down to this government being far too liberal and soft. People do what they want nowadays because theres no deterrant. There was an interesting thread on here the other day about vigilante justice. IMO its the only way people can be sorted because the PC idiots cry "breach of human rights" at the first sign of anything been handed out. Its a joke. If you want something sorting do it yourself.

grocerygirl Posted on 5/8 11:21
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dosh the point is more about irresponsible owners rather than dogs natural instincts

boroproud Posted on 5/8 11:22
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Number-10,believe it or not,im of no political persuasion,im not that clued up (or want to be )on politics,as far as im concerned ,they are all in it for one reason only and thats for themselves.

As regards to the problems in the country,i just say it as i see it and that is too many have tried and failed,the system we use for what must be 30 years and it does not work.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:23
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B_2_b

The police said they were coming to see him yesterday and never came he's now on the phone finding out why.

b0r0lad Posted on 5/8 11:23
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what a doyle dosh n pecks, presumably you have one of these dogs, and what do you do when it does attack a small child?.....nothing I suppose, these things happen don't they?

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:25
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D_N_P

Do you own a pet?.

Dosh_N_Pecks Posted on 5/8 11:26
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No I don't own any dog, I don't even particularly like them.

But that said, you can't just put the thing down. You don't put humans down when they fight on the off chance that one might beat his wife or attack a child do you. Pets are like family (or more) to some people and you want to just kill them because they have a scuffle.

Smogman Posted on 5/8 11:28
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This dog should be put down, along with any other dog that just goes around attacking others, only a matter of time before it turns on humans.

Rottweilers should be allowed as pets number10. I know a couple of mates that have them. They have cared for them, looked after properly and they are really good. My mates have kids, and the dogs are ok around them as they arent harmful or anything, would never attack the kids.

Its the fookers that raise these dogs from pups and teach them to be vicious that shouldnt be allowed to have them.

Boroproud

--- Post edited by Smogman on 5/8 11:33 ---

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:28
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D_N_P

You want putting down for talking like a tvvat .

Dosh_N_Pecks Posted on 5/8 11:29
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Typical, stupid comment because someone doesn't agree with you. Your title 'how is this ever right ffs', well I'm telling you how and you don't like it. You need to grow up and learn to listen to other peoples opinions in life.

boroproud Posted on 5/8 11:30
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"My mates even have kids with them as well."

Isnt that illegal Smogman? if not it bloody well should be!







Sorry,just taken a little snippet and making light of it.

benidorm2boro Posted on 5/8 11:30
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dosh/pecks,way back in 1974,i was fined the grand total of 50pence it teesside magistrates court for the same thing,my dog jumped the garden fence and attacked another dog.i was charged with keeping a dog not in the control of the owner[my self],rightly so and i now have a criminal record,i made sure none of my dogs ever done anything like that again,by being in control of them at all times.this chat was clearly not in control of his pet so he should be brought to boot,[in my opinion].

b0r0lad Posted on 5/8 11:31
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he's listening to your opinion, the fact that its wrong is immaterial

boroproud Posted on 5/8 11:31
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D andP,the point of the post is about the irresponsable owner and lack of police help,we all know about the dogs.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:32
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D_N_P

We are talking about pets being viciously attacked here it's not something to joke about imho and i'm sorry if you took it the wrong way but you dont own thier dog .

Dosh_N_Pecks Posted on 5/8 11:34
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Benidorm, finally someone who can have a constructive conversation. I think times have changed since then and you wouldn't see people getting convictions for things like this. It wouldn't even get to court (courts are too busy). I acknowledge your opinion but disagree with it. We don't all understand the way dogs think / communicate (e.g sniffing each other) so it's difficult to comment on why it attacked the other dog and if it might attack a child - we don't even know the dog.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:34
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B_2_B

Yes i agree .

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:36
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B_P

Thats exactly what the post is about .

Smogman Posted on 5/8 11:36
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Ray with my experiences with police when mates have been jumped or anything they dont seem bothered anymore.

Quick statement and everything and quickly get it out the way so they dont have to deal with it because they particularly dont want to.

Maybe its just the police i have been involved with but i always seem to get this feeling that they arent particularly bothered.

Dosh_N_Pecks Posted on 5/8 11:37
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Ray, I take on board that your friend is very annyoed and concerned (particularly with the attitude of the owner and police) but don't agree that all dogs that attack another should just be killed off on the off chance that they might attack a child. Like I said, dog fighting in parks and streets etc is common, it doesn't mean that they are trained to be viscious and attack.

trodbitch Posted on 5/8 11:44
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Dogs going for other dogs is pretty much natural dog behaviour. Not nice but if you start destroying dogs for that, you might as well destroy them for licking their balls.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:45
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Smogman

Thats exactly the same round here sadly .

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:48
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D_N_P

Where do you draw the line?.

benidorm2boro Posted on 5/8 11:49
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the behaviour of these dogs and many other large dogs changes in the summer months,i'm sorry to say nearly ever year we see headlines such as,dog attacks child,child mauled etc,i seem to remember some expert saying a few years back that in realy warm weather the brain of large dogs swell causing problems in the animals normal behaviour[ie getting out of control etc]now surely the people who purchase these dogs should be informed of this,so they can be more careful with them,ie not letting them out on thier own,at the end of the day this whole thing is about being a responsable owner,clearly the guy in question isn't.

Leedsclive Posted on 5/8 11:54
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Haven't we got a law student who can tell us the position?
I always thought that legally you were held responsible for what your dog does as it is believed that dogs can be trained and should be on leads in public.
That does mean that you can't be held responsible for what your cat does as they cannot be trained. Try throwing a stick and asking it to fetch and see the look a cat gives you.
When I was a lot younger we had two cats who ambushed an old bloke's dog that used to walk by snarling and scratched the s*** out of him. The old geezer called the police to complain and they said there was nothing he could do. But if it had happened the other way round they would have charged him. Don't know why the coppers here don't charge the rottweiler owner.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 11:56
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Clive

Yes he should be responsible for his dog surely.

benidorm2boro Posted on 5/8 11:58
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clive,on a lighter note its a pity you couldnt teach your cats to claw the fook out of a certain mr bates for what he's done to your club,[winky thing]

ray192 Posted on 5/8 13:04
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Senor_Chester Posted on 5/8 13:09
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I reckon all dogs should be muzzled when they are outside. Every dog can have it's moment.

ray192 Posted on 5/8 13:21
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S_C

I always thought certain were meant to be but obviously not?.

Senor_Chester Posted on 5/8 13:23
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Don't know? I don't have a dog and never will. Why would I let something in my house to sit on my setee or carpet that has a s**t and dosn't wipe it's a**e?

speckyget Posted on 5/8 13:25
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"Rottweilers should not be allowed as pets.

Horrible, vicious creatures."


Simply not true. Their natural character is to be loyal, if sometimes a little diffident. Never encountered one - and I've met plenty - that was anything other than friendly and affectionate. As smogman says it's probably due to being owned by the type of moron that threatens people with a baseball bat.

A dog that's more likely to have a go at your dog is a terrier, such as a Staffy - feisty little buggers.

--- Post edited by speckyget on 5/8 13:25 ---

ray192 Posted on 5/8 13:30
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S_C

I meant whilst out among the public like lead and muzzle .

ray192 Posted on 5/8 13:32
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Specky

Yes it showed what a moron he is correct and your most probably right.

TeessideCleveland Posted on 5/8 13:58
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Ray the rottweiler should be taken off them at the least as they can't control it
Also the 'owner' should be charged with threatening behaviour

ray192 Posted on 5/8 14:05
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TC

I agree but neither has been done .

ray192 Posted on 6/8 6:14
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The police still have not been .

br14 Posted on 6/8 6:46
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"Never encountered one - and I've met plenty - that was anything other than friendly and affectionate."

So they're no use as guard dogs then?

speckyget Posted on 6/8 9:19
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They're ideal as guard dogs. The breed originated from a slightly larger beast that was used to guard cattle. The point is that most dogs will do whatever they are trained/conditioned to do. A Rottweiler can be a guard dog, it can also be a family pet.

erimus73 Posted on 6/8 9:36
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If the police could be bothered, they could have charged him with failing to control an animal in public and having an offensive weapon (baseball bat) and or threatening behaviour.

It's no surprise they did nothing.

RedSectorA Posted on 6/8 9:37
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Ditto to what Specky says, training makes a big difference. I know someone that has had a number of Rottweilers and they have all been fine around people and other dogs - he is responsible and the dogs were too. I don't believe that pit bulls, staffs and such are any different, as you would probably find that there are a higher percentage of irresponsible owners that keep those breeds - 'I'm hard me so I need a dog that looks hard.'

The one problematic breed that I am aware of is the German Shepherd. Most are fine, but (this info from a Police Dog Handler) they have a high percentage of the breed that believe themselves to be pack leaders. There is nothing that you can do with such a dog, as it will always believe that it is the boss and even the owner is lower down the pecking order.

ray192 Posted on 6/8 10:16
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E_73

I know what you mean nothing suprises me now .

trodbitch Posted on 6/8 10:18
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Why not go to the police station rather than wait for them to find someone who can make the journey out to you?

b0r0lad Posted on 6/8 10:19
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because it's not him the police want to see?

ray192 Posted on 6/8 10:21
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Trod

He's on his way now as we speak . Yesterday there lass had the car for work.

ray192 Posted on 6/8 10:23
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bOrOlad

Your right but he feels nothing will happen if he doesn't chase it up .

ray192 Posted on 7/8 6:45
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My mate has a vets bill of 54 the police have handed it over to the owner who the police said laughed at them and said i'll pay in a fortnight when i get my dole money i bet he does . Anyway on a brighter note the dog does not seem really affected by the experience he was fine in the vets amongst other dogs yesterday .

Shaun71 Posted on 7/8 10:43
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Shocking news Ray. I hope the dogs alright along with your mates wife.

As you know its happened to me in the past month, leaving us with a seriously ill dog and a vets bill for the thick end of 200.

Pooch is recovering well, although the perpetrator hasnt been tracked down yet. He will though

ray192 Posted on 15/8 17:50
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For all those who asked my mates dog just been given all clear by the vet . But the scum owner not paid the bill yet .

angelmatty Posted on 15/8 18:01
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Fook all wrong with the breed of Rotweiller its the pricks that own them and turn them into a nasty dog.

This could have happened with a mongrel dog which had been brought up the same way.

Sorry about your mates dog but you cannot hold a breed responsible.

ray192 Posted on 15/8 18:03
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Matty

Now looking back at the situation on reflection your right

Captain_Moonlight Posted on 15/8 18:09
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should have kicked it harder

ray192 Posted on 15/8 18:13
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C_M

He said it was hardly touching the fooking thing it was that strong .

GibbosEmpire Posted on 15/8 18:14
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Ray

Il give a little story.

About a Year ago I saw a lad who lives over the road from us,who is an absolute dickhead,real nasty peice of work,you know a wannabe Gangster but will do anything to achieve it.
Anyway I saw him in our Town with a Rottweiler dog,it was absolute fooking huge.

He had the dog on a chain lead,the chain was as thick as your arm,the chain was round the dogs neck,and he himself had the chain round his own neck while pulling it round,it looked pretty intimidating to see and was right near McDonalds.

Anyway a few month back the same dickhead I saw in our Local Pub,I was at the fruit machines with a few mates,and I looked over at the clock to see what time it was,I was squinting aswell cos I had no contact lenses in,he was right under the clock.

So he comes over with his Gangster mate,both kitted out in all white,its there 'colour' apparently.

So he goes, 'you fooking looking at me?'
I said 'No I can't see the clock so I have to try to see it harder'

I tell him to fck off.He then gets abit cocky taking the piss,and a mate of mine and me just confronted them,they soon moved away,but I said to myself' What the hell was that about?'

He could of easily had a knife or got out of hand,and all of us thrown out,or worse arrested.

--- Post edited by GibbosEmpire on 15/8 18:21 ---

ray192 Posted on 15/8 18:21
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G_E

That sounds about right mate .

ray192 Posted on 20/8 12:31
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Just an update the police said no action will be taken against the dog or the owner as long as he pays the vets bill when handed to him he promptly ripped it up and said no chance as he's not working!! does anybody know what happens now then?.