| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 11:41 | |
| Why wasn`t the Alkmaar game publicised?? | |
It wasn`t amongst the hundreds of friendlies listed on Ceefax, It wasn`t on SSN, it wasn`t in the two national papers i read on Saturday (though hundreds of other clubs games were). Do they not feel the need to publicise that games are taking place now? | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 11:43 | |
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That'll be the clubs fault then will it ? You really are a tool arent you ? | |
| richyNUFC Posted on 6/8 11:45 | |
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aye i was looking on sky for result but couldn't find it. strange. | |
| Capybara Posted on 6/8 11:45 | |
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I noticed this though didn't for a minute think it was down to the club. The only reference I heard was on Radio 5 who gave out the result. The result wasn't in the paper I read yesterday either. | |
| ray192 Posted on 6/8 11:47 | |
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richyNUFC Posted on 6/8 11:45 re: Why wasn`t the Alkmaar game publicised?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- aye i was looking on sky for result but couldn't find it. strange. Why look on there when your always on here ffs. | |
| Borowood Posted on 6/8 11:47 | |
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Lizard, your the tool here bonny lad. Archies right - most under advertised game in the history of the Riverside - if its not in any papers or on tv - how do fans know the games on? Very very badly publicised. I'm a red book holder (or whatever we are now?, have always said our marketting is poor. Of course it is the clubs fault. | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 11:49 | |
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"That'll be the clubs fault then will it ? You really are a tool arent you " Yes, it will be the clubs fault. As far as the media were concerned the friendly wasn`t taking place. As i said, hundreds of games were listed on text and in the papers, but Boro`s marketing machine obviously didn`t bother putting out any info about the game to the press. Thanks for the insult btw - a sure sign that you`ve no arguement worth hearing. | |
| Kilburn Posted on 6/8 11:50 | |
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I did notice that in the review of pre-season friendlies in yesterday's Observer, Boro were the only premiership club whose game was not covered. I just assumed it was the usual media apathy towards Boro. The friendly was certainly on all the fixture lists beforehand. If we had lost, I'm sure it would have got coverage. | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 11:50 | |
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"Lizard, your the tool here bonny lad." Why try to sound like a Geordie? The club publicised it on their website, the Gazette has mentioned it numerous times - where else should they have publicised it - perhaps a billboard in Times Square and a National advertising campaign in The Times? Tell me how the club can be held responsible for the newspapers not covering it ? Should they have kidnapped journalists and forced them to write about it? | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 11:52 | |
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"Thanks for the insult btw - a sure sign that you`ve no arguement worth hearing." Much like every post you make, which always seem to critisise the club completely ignoring any evidence or reasoning. | |
| jeff_potato Posted on 6/8 11:53 | |
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Whilst the children snipe at each other, I must say that I too found it odd, reading yesterday's Observer, that every man and his dog were covered except us. Maybe this is a new tactic to fill the ground - you don't go, you don't get to know! | |
| Gillandi Posted on 6/8 11:53 | |
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"If we had lost, I'm sure it would have got coverage." Spot on. | |
| richyNUFC Posted on 6/8 11:54 | |
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"Why look on there when your always on here ffs." 'cos i wasn't on here. so obviously not always on here. sorry if it bothers you that i look on here. | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 11:54 | |
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<double> --- Post edited by Archie_Stanton1 on 6/8 11:55 --- | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 6/8 11:54 | |
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I have a copy of the MFCpress release about AZ Alkmaar ticket details from 25th July - SKY and all the media are quite clearly listed in the contacts. I also have a copy of the MFC press release announcing our friendly fixtures again all the media were on that list emailed. That's the only evidence I have but seems to indicate that everyone was informed in the media as they would normally be for any fixture. | |
| sasboro Posted on 6/8 11:54 | |
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who cares if some pointless friendly doesnt get publicity. I blame skysportsnews..etc for hyping up pointless friendlies as something important. Only different the club can do is catch a bigger fish for friendlies, perhaps next summer get barcelona in. if a scottish club can then why cant we. | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 11:54 | |
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"Much like every post you make, which always seem to critisise the club completely ignoring any evidence or reasoning". Wrong again. The Evidence was there in the fact the game wasn`t listed on Ceefax, SSN, or the two papers i read. Fact not opinion. As soon as i see some positives i`ll be the first to celebrate them. | |
| captain5 Posted on 6/8 11:55 | |
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I must admit none of the Boro fans I've spoken to knew that we were playing* *Possibly a load of crap | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 11:56 | |
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Rob - strange then that so many media outlets didn`t list it. Another Boro mystery. Bring on Toyah. | |
| Perry_Combover Posted on 6/8 11:57 | |
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the club should have organised an airship hovering around teesside for a week before the game. advertise ffs! | |
| Kilburn Posted on 6/8 11:59 | |
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Strange, but as Rob's evidence proves, clearly the media's fault rather than Boro's. | |
| jeff_potato Posted on 6/8 12:00 | |
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Were we being televised in Holland? This is just a query aside from Saturday from when I noticed those electronic advertising boards. | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 6/8 12:00 | |
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Boro will have to step on it now publicity wise that much is clear. But I was talking to someone working in that side of the football club over the summer he was working non stop. But I wonder if the problem lies with some of the media re-structuring ie getting rid of reporters and changing websites round etc. They keep sacking off local contacts etc to save coppers. It might all change as the season starts - or it may make the job harder still for so-called "unfashionable" clubs like Boro. Anyway they did all have the information - everyone is on the list as usual. Very odd isn't it? I think that Ceefax and everyone were still away on their hols. --- Post edited by rob_fmttm on 6/8 12:02 --- --- Post edited by rob_fmttm on 6/8 12:03 --- | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 12:04 | |
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"Wrong again. The Evidence was there in the fact the game wasn`t listed on Ceefax, SSN, or the two papers i read. Fact not opinion" No the evidence was that THEY didn't cover it, not that it wasn't publicised. Rob quite clearly states that it WAS publicised and has evidence to support this - you do not ! | |
| bororeddaz Posted on 6/8 12:06 | |
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I was trying to get the result on Talksport. They did a results round up at 5ish and we weren't mentioned. They had reporters at every other prem friendly. | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 12:12 | |
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"No the evidence was that THEY didn't cover it, not that it wasn't publicised. Rob quite clearly states that it WAS publicised and has evidence to support this - you do not ! " How has it been "publicised" if the "public" haven`t been informed. If the club has indeed informed the media, but the media has not included the game, they need to be asking why. If talksport had a reporter at every prem league club friendly except ours, the club again need to be asking why. Is there a big conspiracy involving all forms of UK media to ignore us, or is there something wrong with our marketing dept? | |
| Kilburn Posted on 6/8 12:14 | |
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Is there a big conspiracy involving all forms of UK media to ignore us? Yes. Have you only just noticed? | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 12:17 | |
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"How has it been "publicised" if the "public" haven`t been informed." For crying out loud, they were informed. a) It was on the club website b) It was in the Gazette, The Northern Echo etc c) Press releases were sent out to all the relevant media outlets As I said before, would you suggest a national advertising campaign perhaps in the break between Coronation Street ? | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 12:26 | |
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Go back to sleep FFS | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 12:27 | |
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You really can't read can you, either that or your unable to accept that you were proved wrong! | |
| Priest86 Posted on 6/8 12:56 | |
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there have been a fair few posts on here regarding a player been seen attending the friendly with alkmaar. Perhaps the lack of media publicity was because the club decided that they didnt want cameras around the stadium incase they spotted this actual person? Rumours would then soon hit the fan, and this could hinder the clubs chances of buying the player in question. The local media which was there to talk about the game, is more likely to help the club, in exchange for some exclusives. And the lack of deliberate ommitance of SSN could be a bitter response to this request. I mean SSN even ran an article regarding van gaal taking a cheap shot at the boro and there offer for steinsson, it wouldnt take a genious to figure theres a match on between the two teams. --- Post edited by Priest86 on 6/8 13:11 --- | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 12:57 | |
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How have i been proved wrong. Re-read the original post. "It wasn`t amongst the hundreds of friendlies listed on Ceefax, It wasn`t on SSN, it wasn`t in the two national papers i read on Saturday (though hundreds of other clubs games were)." Nothings changed. | |
| fatharrywhite Posted on 6/8 13:18 | |
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funny how you havent quoted the whole of the original message. conveniently 'forgetting' the bit where you had a go at the club and were subsequently proved wrong about it. here's the bit again, just to remind you. "Do they not feel the need to publicise that games are taking place now?" | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 13:26 | |
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Spot on FatHarry. YOu could also point out the title of the thread, which again is utter rubbish and has been proved to be so. | |
| skiprat Posted on 6/8 13:30 | |
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I think you need to bow out of this thread as gracefully as possible Archie. Quickly. | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 6/8 13:31 | |
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To be fair to Archie I'm sure he has raised a few points that the club will be looking at today. I imagine there will have been a few phone calls to find out why the game was ignored. I don't think the fault was at our end but we will be making sure it isn't repeated when it matters. I'm sure it won't be. | |
| The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 6/8 13:32 | |
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No doubt he has Rob, and I'd be interested to know the answer. It was the implication that the club are somehow responsible for this, and the accusing nature of his posts that I objected to. | |
| Gillandi Posted on 6/8 13:35 | |
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I'll be very dissapointed if Archie doesn't return withn a mess of semantics.  It's always interesting to get his Monkey-centric (or is it phobic? Hartlepool anyway) perpective. I think there may be something in what Priest86 says. OBVIOUSLY, we inform all the media people but we probably have to push harder than most to ensure they grace us with their presence....and sometimes, it's in our interests not to have too many of them about. --- Post edited by Gillandi on 6/8 13:41 --- | |
| sasboro Posted on 6/8 13:38 | |
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losing century radio must have some kind of impact too. | |
| squiffypants Posted on 6/8 13:42 | |
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It's easy to convince yourself that the media have it in for Boro, and certainly there is a strong bias to Newcastle in the North East but I flatly refuse to accept that every single media organisation in the UK decided, as one, to pretend that this one particular Boro game didn't happen. This was almost certainly due to an oversite at the club. There can be no other realistic explanation. Maybe their email system failed, or maybe there is another standard way of getting word out that wan't followed, but to suggest that the papers decided not to cover Boro 'cos they hate us smacks of paranoia. | |
| captain5 Posted on 6/8 13:43 | |
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Well, I read a report in a tabloid yesterday that was in the pub I was in, so it's not like all the papers missed it out. | |
| Capybara Posted on 6/8 13:47 | |
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'Maybe their email system failed, or maybe there is another standard way of getting word out that wan't followed' You've got me convinced 
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| squiffypants Posted on 6/8 13:49 | |
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Fax machine maybe......? | |
| TheBoroBoss61 Posted on 6/8 14:01 | |
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When i got back from the match Saturday i put text page 211 on SSN and ours was the only game not given on the friendly matches. They even had Billingham Syn v Darlo (no disrespect to those teams). --- Post edited by TheBoroBoss61 on 6/8 14:02 --- | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 14:05 | |
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"YOu could also point out the title of the thread, which again is utter rubbish and has been proved to be so". How? Once again, for the hard of thinking, the game wasn`t publicised on Teletext, SSN, and at least two national newspapers. Or talksport apparently. Yet hundreds of other pre-season games were. My question remains 100% valid. If the club DID inform the media, which Rob stated they did, then why was it roundly ignored by so many different, unconnected media outlets? Other than outlandish conspiracy theories i`m non the wiser. | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 14:07 | |
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"Maybe their email system failed, or maybe there is another standard way of getting word out that wan't followed" I knew it!!!!! Keith Lamb and The Fax Machine AGAIN!!!!!!! | |
| fatharrywhite Posted on 6/8 14:18 | |
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and once again. you're the one who made out that it was the clubs fault and were still arguing the point when it was proved that it wasnt!!!!!!! | |
| Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 6/8 14:40 | |
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I`ve never stated that it was the clubs fault. Don`t put words into my mouth. I do however, believe that it is the clubs responsibility. | |
| GaryHamiltonsTash Posted on 6/8 15:03 | |
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Must admit, bought the Telegraph yesterday and the Boro result was nowhere to be seen... flicked SSN on and again nothing...looked on sky sports.com and nowt (has the last game down as Carlisle) basically what Archie is saying is outside of the North East it could appear the match never took place. Bring back the Errea Cup!!!! Now that was a tournament that got the media backing it deserved!!!!!! | |
| skiprat Posted on 6/8 15:06 | |
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You might want to check your earlier posts Archie... "I've never stated it was the clubs fault" Yet earlier "Yes, it will be the clubs fault. As far as the media were concerned the friendly wasn`t taking place."
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| zoec Posted on 6/8 15:08 | |
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It's strange that the papers suddenly seemed to suffer from amnesia on Saturday. I'm sure I read comments from Van Gaal in the national press before the match saying that we weren't up to much as a team, so they definitely knew the match was on. | |
| rob_fmttm Posted on 6/8 15:09 | |
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Yes I think you're right Archie but have just looked back again at an email I received dated 29th June when the AZ Alkmaar game was first officially announced. The press release was sent absolutely everywhere - I can make out several SKY contacts, several BBC and Tyne Tees, several local and national radios. It was long, long list. There was then the ticket announcement Press release sent to the same list. There would have been a press conference last week. So, I think everyone should have known. Maybe we should just blame the hot weather. | |
| burydweller Posted on 6/8 15:12 | |
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I'll give you a tip, by default, just be glad it was mentioned in Middlesbrough, forget Sky "big four" news and TalkSpuds radio, stories are only representative of teams world wide revenue. Thats why Jose's fcuking dog gets more attention than a boro game, thats why Beckham on the bench in LA is more important than pogi's four month lay off, just turn off sky news and tune into BBC Tees, easy, problem solved. | |
| Hignett_7 Posted on 6/8 18:48 | |
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is there a link to the highlights from boroworld? | |
| bandito Posted on 6/8 18:51 | |
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FFS! it was a micky mouse friendly, a piss pot of a game. It doesnt need advertising. Where does it state UEFA Cup quarter final in the brief. Get real some people and stop moaning for the hell of it!! | |
| dooderooni Posted on 6/8 19:05 | |
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burydweller, I'm sure it's still BBC Radio Cleveland and only becomes BBC Tees next Saturday. I might be wrong but I'm sure I heard Gilly and Addo mention it on the way to the game.
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