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dibzzz Posted on 15/10 15:45
It seems the place not to be in the UK is Mid

Quote from the article on the sky news website:

"It seems the place not to be in the UK is Middlesbrough, after the city topped a poll of the worst places to live."

Middlesbrough is a Town, not a City.

I think those Cockney reporters should improve thier research before they start to put an area down.

PV86 Posted on 15/10 15:55
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All depends on what you want out of life. If you like friendly people and a good laugh then theres no better place than Boro. Also has some of the best cycling country anywhere. Fishing is very good; rambling superb. Cheap housing, great looking women, the list goes on.

Unfortunately, the beer is craap.

KENDAL Posted on 15/10 16:09
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Where in Middlesbrough is the cycling country?? or good fishing??

dibzzz Posted on 15/10 16:18
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There is no fishing or cycling in Middlesbrough, but by accusing Middlesbrough as the worst place to live in the UK automatically tarnishes the surrounding areas, as the tv producers of that programme on Ch4 well know.

uzumaki Posted on 15/10 16:20
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how can you blame the bias southern press, the fact is someone has done a detailed analysis of every town and city in the country and said Middlesbrough is the worst, and having been there they arent wrong.

The pathetic excuses of what about the countryside - there is no countryside in middlesbrough its out of middlesbrough, theres nice places like yarm - its not in middlesbrough. ETC

Teesside isnt the worst county to live, Ill let you off there are some nice places, But Middlesbrough IS the worst town/city to live in. No Bias, no opinion just cold hard statistics

dibzzz Posted on 15/10 16:23
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I can blame the bias southern press as the report on the sky news webby is written in London. Simple as that.

jimborored Posted on 15/10 16:26
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"But Middlesbrough IS the worst town/city to live in. No Bias, no opinion just cold hard statistics."

What cold hard statistics. I haven't seen any.

As someone once said "there are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies and statistics"

grantus Posted on 15/10 16:29
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uzumaki, interesting, except you are talking complete and utter rubbish.

There are no cold hard statisticss. What there is is a set of figures plucked that make Boro look the worst, mainly based on someone's opinion of what should be scored.

Someone mentioned the crime figures, but didn't specify what crime figures were selected and used. The same for the wages paid, without pricing the cost of living. Binge drinking? So what? Where doesn't binge drink in England? We are a nation of drinkers.

We all know Middlesbrough is no Oxford, but this tv show, the whole thing, means nothing other than Middlesbrough has a bad reputation, maybe a little worse today than it was.

Who cares?

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Kayl Posted on 15/10 16:31
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Statistics,pah! I didn't read any interviews from people who live in the town in the report and surely they know best what it is like to live in the area.The report is complete bollox. How can you say a place is not a nice one to live in just because people don't eat too healthily and earn little?

dibzzz Posted on 15/10 16:32
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On the crime figures:
We don't get kids shot or stabbed every two minutes do we?

billybalfour Posted on 15/10 16:33
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Most of boro is a tip tho, maybe they will do something about the place.
Ive been to equally scummy places, birmingham, depford,newcross, kings cross, springburn in glasgow,
If you think it doesnt need cleaning up, take you rose tinted specs off and have drive over the border ot grangetown, its filthy, full of scruffy bastars

uzumaki Posted on 15/10 16:36
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name some postives about middlesbrough without mentioning places out of middlesbrough, Yarm cant be used as an excuse for it being wrong as thats not middlesbrough.

The Cons are High Unemployment, Low Life Expectancy, High Crime rates, High Drug uses, Low levels of Income etc

The Only positives are the football side, one of the worst(if not the worst) Universities in the country, and the empty Art Gallery.

You cant mention cheap prices as prices are similar in all towns north of nottingham not including the cities.

So come on Positives about Boro

Boromart Posted on 15/10 16:37
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here is a crime figure for you......19 out of the 20 worst places for car crime are boroughs of London....and NO the other one isn't Middlesbrough.

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billybalfour Posted on 15/10 16:38
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the pound shops?

jimborored Posted on 15/10 16:39
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Taken from the daily mail: "Estimates suggest that about 27 per cent of adults in the city binge drink, way over the 18 per cent England national average"
Two points there, firstly as has been said before it is not a city, piss poor journalism IMO.
Secondly i think they have grossly under estimated the binge drinking in both boro and the rest of the country. According to the government anyone that drinks more than 4 pints in a session is a binge drinker. In that case I dont know anyone either in boro or elsewhere in the country that isn't a binge drinker (including myself).

Boromart Posted on 15/10 16:42
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"The Cons are High Unemployment, Low Life Expectancy, High Crime rates, High Drug uses, Low levels of Income etc" -- however this applies to many towns in the UK. In fact name me a town or city that doesn't have these problems. What is important is the relative levels of these problems.....I have no idea how bad they are compared to other towns, and I doubt the authorities do either. The thing with geographical statistics is that how you define the boarders of your zones is highly subjective and massively effects the figures.

Also local policing methods massively effect stats. Boro police had a zero tolerance policy when Mallon was in charge, and I would hazzard a guess that Cleveland police is still fairly hardline. thus they record more thefts, drug addicts etc. It doesn't mean we have more crime in Boro, it's just we have a much higher conviction rate than other areas of the country who turn a blind eye to much of their crime.

"The Only positives are the football side, one of the worst(if not the worst) Universities in the country, and the empty Art Gallery." -- bit harsh on the Uni, in fact it's bullshyte. It is strong in some areas and weak in others. When I was their it was one of only 5 Unis in the country to have excellant status for it's school of Computing and Maths.


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hughiep Posted on 15/10 16:43
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billybalfour Posted on 15/10 16:33 Email this Message | Edit | Reply
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Most of boro is a tip tho, maybe they will do something about the place.
Ive been to equally scummy places, birmingham, depford,newcross, kings cross, springburn in glasgow,
If you think it doesnt need cleaning up, take you rose tinted specs off and have drive over the border ot grangetown, its filthy, full of scruffy bastars


You are obviously a right fookin vvanker.

PV86 Posted on 15/10 16:44
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The city where I work has people who just wont speak to you - its the most cold and unfriendly place I've ever been to. So given a choice, I would much rather live in Boro than there.

Depends on what You want from life.

billybalfour Posted on 15/10 16:45
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Cheers hugie, so you must be a scruffy bastar

hughiep Posted on 15/10 16:49
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I can clean up but you will always be a vvanker !!!!

billybalfour Posted on 15/10 16:51
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but you will allways smell of pot noodle

hughiep Posted on 15/10 16:54
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Funny that as i never eat them.....get yourself down the post office and collect your giro....wwanker.

paul1986 Posted on 15/10 16:56
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Actually the Middlesbrough/Stockton stretch of the Tees has some excellent fishing...

Glad its not common knowledge though... Keep it for the locals

billybalfour Posted on 15/10 16:56
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I never said you ate them, you just smell of them

zappa909 Posted on 15/10 17:07
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The fact that these stats pop up now and again stops us being invaded by every Tom,dick and Abdul so don't fooking worry about it. you can't polish a turd so let's not

PV86 Posted on 15/10 18:00
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Personally I reinforce this sterotypical view of Teesside whenever I'm down south: I say its much better now that we've been given shoes to wear by the EU.

Dont want those southerners moving up here now do we?

Camsell_345 Posted on 15/10 18:02
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This no laughing matter as it will have a detrimental effect on the football club as this negative press will make it even harder to sign uk based players than it is now.

radiogaga Posted on 15/10 18:04
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So much for the 19 million pound MIMA art gallery changing outsiders perceptions....

sasboro Posted on 15/10 18:12
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MIddlesbroughs population is falling so we cant really pick and choose who we want

illuminati Posted on 15/10 19:33
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Uzumaki - "someone has done a detailed analysis of every town and city in the country and said Middlesbrough is the worst"

Anyone who believes that Chavvel 4 deal in facts has some serious issues. They want to be controversial, so they choose Middlesbrough as the worst place to live in the U.K. They'll learn from their error, and choose an obscure area of Cambridge next year.

keithlamb76 Posted on 15/10 20:02
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i cant believe somebody said that our uni is one of the worst, it obviously isnt.

Boromart Posted on 16/10 9:05
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Sas, it's a little misleading to say that the population of Boro is falling.

Firstly, it has fallen from the late 60s to the late 80s/early 90s. But it is projected that it has pretty much bottomed out, give or take a few thousand.

Secondly, the boundaries of the town do not include out of town developments like Ingleby Barwick for instance with it's 17K residence. The population is moving out of the town into the suburbs rather than people deserting Teesside.

When people desert a town/city centre, the cost of city centre property drops, the next natural step is for redevelopment to occur as it becomes more cost effective. I predict that much will change over the next 20 years in the Town Centre.

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Bri_Marwood Posted on 16/10 9:15
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"When I was their it was one of only 5 Unis in the country to have excellant status for it's school of Computing and Maths"

But not for spelling and grammar?

Bri_Marwood Posted on 16/10 9:18
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"They want to be controversial, so they choose Middlesbrough"

How is it controversial to choose Middlesbrough? Surely choosing somewhere like Hull or Middlesbrough is the easy option as the majority of the nation who have never visited either place just nods and agrees approvingly.

The controversy surely begins when inner city Oxford or the like is given this lucrative award.

Boromart Posted on 16/10 9:26
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we can't all be good at everything. I'm a lazy typer-er. It's funny though, I always spell correctly and get my their/there correct when I'm using a pen and paper.

Archie_Stanton1 Posted on 16/10 9:34
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radiogaga: "So much for the 19 million pound MIMA art gallery changing outsiders perceptions...."

Biggest white elephant i`ve ever seen. Went on a sunday two weeks ago and it was deserted. More staff than visitors. And don`t get me started on the "art" inside. One of the "exhibits" was a 17 minute film of a bloke making custard in the kitchen of his council flat - FFS.

Of all the things this town needs, and of all the things to blow 19 Million on, we get this.

It makes me want to weep.