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PinkPonce Posted on 6/11 12:39
Laptop Help Please

Hi.

Can anyone help me...

On first looks this looks ok... and reasonably priced.

Any opinions...I seen it in tesco last night, and I want a glossy black or white one..

I don't do too much realy... probably download a few songs, scour the net watching porn etc... No huge amounts of video downloads or anything like that.

Whats Vista like?

Help apprecited please.

Otley_Boro Posted on 6/11 12:43
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Missing link?

I don't like Vista, my Lap Top runs really slowly and has errors. I'm going back to XP.

PinkPonce Posted on 6/11 12:55
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oops sorry !!

Link: available in Black, White or Red Gloss

PinkPonce Posted on 6/11 13:10
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please ....

Hoof.

go4boro Posted on 6/11 13:19
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I have vista on my new desktop and it is rubbish. Does not like NTL and is not supportive of XP games. Try to get XP loaded.

Dell have very good deals running so try feeding the data of the tesco laptop in to the Dell specification and see what it comes out with

PinkPonce Posted on 6/11 13:29
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thnks go4...

Dell laptops look shoite. the samsung one looks great. gloss finish.

George1507 Posted on 6/11 14:44
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That price looks ok for the spec. I have just got a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium. It's generally ok, it has hung a couple of times, but it does have some nice stuff too. It's not easy to get a PC retro fitted with XP, and you will get driver problems too, so I'd say go with Vista and make sure you get all the updates.

PinkPonce Posted on 6/11 16:40
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cheers george.

think thats the bad boy there then, as long as i can find someone with office on vista

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George1507 Posted on 6/11 16:50
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Office xp works just fine on Vista. You'll find there is a one month trial version on Vista, but it's expensive to extend the license. If you have Office already just reload it on Vista.

Huan_Kerr Posted on 6/11 16:52
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Vista is vvank unless you have at least 2gig of ram to run it.

PinkPonce Posted on 6/11 17:00
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well thats sound then HUANKER as it has 2 gig of ram.

thanks for your feelings though.

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George1507 Posted on 6/11 17:12
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Depending upon what you want to do, Vista will probably run ok in 1GB. Your PC has 2GB, so it will be fine for all except really high level games or complex video applications. One thing to watch for though is that MS operating systems get bigger and bigger - XP used to run fine on 256MB pcs but it grew and grew and grew until it needed 512MB or more.

So Vista might end up growing like that, and you may need to upgrade beyond 2GB (eventually) so make sure there are enough RAM slots.

whighams_wig Posted on 6/11 17:17
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ive been loking for one for my daughter, msn, homework, etc and come across simplyacer website which look good spec and cheaper than elsewhere so thats worth a look. I think iwill be using them,

axel1974 Posted on 6/11 17:44
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Chuck vista into touch and get a macbook instead.
Mac os x is superior to windows. Apple boot camp will now allow you to install windows on it too if you really want.
Best thing about macs is the lack of virus problems to watch out for

PinkPonce Posted on 7/11 9:21
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axel, i do like the macs - i think they look amazing, but firstly, i am not wanting to pay 800 - 1000, and secondly, i really can't get used to the system. One mouse button, no right click. silly stuff like that. My mate has one, and when i'm having a go on his i'm like an amatuer! I'll just invest 50 quid into the full mcaffee / norton anti virus package, and spyware jobbys etc.

axel1974 Posted on 7/11 9:32
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i only paid about 580 for mine brand new. got the 13"macbook. only has a cdrw/ dvd reader with it but is not a problem as i dont need to do any dvd copying as have a desktop for that.
the screen is smart and as for the lack of right clicking..... i guess your mate is not able to press the control key when he is clicking.
as for the operating system.... takes about 1 week to master but is better than windows, and i have been a windows user for many years. i put 2 gig in mine and its lightning fast. would pee over a similar specced vista machine as it doesnt have a weighty operating system slowing it down.

i think i would rather have a system without viruses than worrying about not being able to right click on the trackpad. you just learn to use the short cut keys

PinkPonce Posted on 7/11 9:41
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Axel - you have made me listen LOL.

Ok - SO it has 2gig of Ram - which is the same. I wouldn't mind a smaller laptop (as in 13") so thats ok.

Whats the rest of the spec?
What processor does it use? This samsung one has the best processor doesnt it?
Did you get it from the apple store online?

CD-RW is fine - i don't copy dvds anyway, and could use the desktop anyway also. Have you got a link to these 13" macbooks? I could only see the normal ones.

Does anyone agree with Axel..

axel1974 Posted on 7/11 9:47
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we have mac os x and windows xp on ours with a dual boot option at the start.

i bought it at pc world in june as it was on offer. think it has a 1.8gb core 2 duo intel.
White
2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4MB shared
667MHz
1GB (two 512MB) of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300); supports up to 2GB
80GB Serial ATA; 5400 rpm
Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Intel GMA 950 graphics processor with 64MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory1
Video Built-in iSight camera; mini-DVI output port with support for DVI, VGA, S-video, and composite video (requires adapters, sold separately)
Display 13.3-inch (diagonal) glossy TFT widescreen display, 1280 by 800 resolution
FireWire One FireWire 400 port (8 watts)
USB Two USB 2.0 ports (up to 480 Mbps)
Audio Built-in stereo speakers, built-in omnidirectional microphone, combined optical digital audio input/audio line in, combined optical digital audio output/headphone out
Networking Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T (Gigabit) Ethernet
Wireless Built-in AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi (based on IEEE 802.11n draft specification)2; built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) module
Hardware accessories Apple Remote, 60W MagSafe Power Adapter, AC wall plug, power cord, lithium-polymer battery
Limited warranty and service Your MacBook comes with 90 days of free telephone support and a o

i wouldnt worry about the small hard drive size as i dont use it for major downloading anyway. its just a cracking bit of kit

oh yeah, it has a built in webcam too

PinkPonce Posted on 7/11 9:57
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cheers,

i know about the built in cam... the spec is good, although to get the same ram will cost another 100 quid..

Also, they start from 699 on the apple site.

i reckon you got quite a good deal on that really..
hard drive size is fine. 80 gig is ample... but i reckon i would be pushed to get it for 580 quid now..

ill have to have a look.

axel1974 Posted on 7/11 10:08
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Cost me 50 to install the extra ram. Sold original on ebay.
To be honest we haven't looked back since we started using os x.
My wife is also thai so if she cam get used to it quickly i am sure you would have no problems.
I have never had problems finding software

PinkPonce Posted on 7/11 10:17
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ok mate.. ill maybe have a drive over there this weekend then to price one up..

for the sake of an extra 100 quid i'd definately be interested...

George1507 Posted on 7/11 10:34
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I like Apples too, but -

* if you use OS x properly then you are locked into a smaller and more expensive range of software
* peripherals are more expensive
* parts and memory are more expensive
* it requires PC users to relearn how to use it

Otley_Boro Posted on 7/11 12:23
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I have 2GB of RAM. With vista my Hard Disk light is almost constantly on. As I say I'm going back to XP.

PinkPonce Posted on 7/11 13:11
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whooo otley..

What do you mean your hard disk light is almost constantly on.

Can you put it in simpler terms for me.. lol..

axel1974 Posted on 7/11 16:48
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they are not exactly hard to learn... my wife is a prime example of that. she has only been speaking english for about 3 years, so if she can use, so should you.
there is all the software you need out there, just as available as for windows
peripherals are the same price as most things will work just as well. in fact i would put money on things being more compatible with os x than with vista.
parts and memory more expensive? it takes normal laptop memory that you would fit in a normal laptop...... so is exactly the same price
as for parts being more expensive......... get a warranty if you are bothered. laptops are notoriously expensive to fix whether its apple or windows..... its entirely up to you

i just like macs as they are nice and quiet and the battery lasts for about 4 hours on 1 charge.
as far as i am concerned there are no major drawbacks that i have found in 6 months.

before you ask..... no i dont work for apple
axel

axel1974 Posted on 7/11 16:51
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ok... i admit there is not the same range of software out there as you would find in a shop like pc world
in fact.... there is hardly anything on the shelf. has never caused me any problems though

everything you need is out there on the internet. just as easy to buy as for windows. certainly all the most popular applications like microsoft office and adobe photoshop and the like are all available for both platforms.

up until recently, msn messenger and yahoo have been a bit primative, but that has recently changed.

axel1974 Posted on 7/11 16:52
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1 more thing.......... you can run windows or mac os x on a mac

you can't do that with a pc

PinkPonce Posted on 8/11 8:19
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cheers axel...

I'm gonna go have a look this weekend... I think that the samsung one is great.. and with 2gig memory able to run vista. If i can get a mac for a similar price, then maybe i will be persuaded but i cant be paying 300 quid more (which it currently looks like for a similar specced mac... despite how quiet and nice they look!

Otley_Boro Posted on 8/11 12:25
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It means that vista is always reading and writting to the hard disk, as a result everything runs slow.

axel1974 Posted on 8/11 12:55
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good luck with the vista. not had a chance to have a proper go yet

PinkPonce Posted on 8/11 13:07
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surely that doesnt make THAT much difference though otley?

its gonna be milliseconds with an internet page loading up etc. Not like 10 seconds for a page to load up...

you techies scare me with all this "slow" talk lol.

axel1974 Posted on 8/11 13:18
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This is why i bought one

The fastest Windows Vista notebook we’ve tested this year is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we’ve tested this year–or for that matter, ever–is a Mac. Not a Dell, not a Toshiba, not even an Alienware. The $2419 (plus the price of a copy of Windows Vista, of course) MacBook Pro’s PC WorldBench 6 Beta 2 score of 88 beats Gateway’s E-265M by a single point, but the MacBook’s score is far more impressive simply because Apple couldn’t care less whether you run Windows.

Link: fastest windows vista laptop

PinkPonce Posted on 8/11 13:38
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axel.. that doesnt really tell ME anything though..

All i see is blah blah blah blah macbook, blah blah vista, blah blah gateblah blah mac book pro.

Its a single point faster? what does that mean?

If i am openeing an internet page. Will it appear on the screen straight away? Yes?

The fact that the macbook is 0.00001 second quicker doesn't really bother me, as long as im not waiting 3 minutes for google to open when i open I.Explorer.

axel1974 Posted on 8/11 16:44
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Lol
good point

PinkPonce Posted on 8/11 16:53
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HAHA! Possibly just saved me 300 quid with that post axel. Thanks.

George1507 Posted on 8/11 17:16
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Speed on PCs is a hard concept. Pinkponce - you are talking about how long it takes to open a web page. That depends on other things besides the PC - especially the speed of your connection, and how busy the website is that you are trying to connect to.

The thing that irritates people beyond belief is the time it takes to swap between applications, if the PC isn't powerful enough. Say you are surfing the web, you have 3 or 4 explorer windows open, and you see some text and a picture that you want to copy to a report you are doing in Word. And you want to save the picture, and put some figures into Excel. So you load Word and Excel, then copy the text and the pics...

If your PC is short on RAM, you will the hard disk light come on, and the PC won't do anything while it swaps stuff on and off the hard disk. 30 seconds later it finishes and everything is copied across. Then you go back to surfing again and you wait another 30 seconds while it swaps stuff again.

My Toshiba which I bought recently has Vista Home Premium, which I'm still getting used to, but it's pretty easy really. At this moment I've got 15 internet explorer windows open, plus MSN Messenger, Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Living Photo. I can switch between any of these instantly without the hard disk light coming on - or if it does it's for about a second. I can copy and paste stuff instantly.

Otley's PC sounds like it has a problem. I'm impressed with the speed of this thing, and it isn't top of the range.

PinkPonce Posted on 9/11 8:19
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George, I think you have sold me there.

Thats the simplified explanation I needed!

George1507 Posted on 9/11 11:06
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Ok well I hope that helps.

Incidetally, there are some useful gadgets that some PCs come with these days that you might want to consider - webcams (so you can do video calls on Skype), and card readers (to download pictures from your digital camera easily).

axel1974 Posted on 9/11 11:45
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good time to buy RAM while it is cheap.

these dual core processors are great also