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AtomicLoonybin Posted on 10/11 9:17
Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Headline in the Northern Echo today.

Haven't read the article and it's not online, but I assume he's not happy at the fans.

Or just preparing for that 'I really don't want to go, but feel I must' January transfer.

buttermyarse Posted on 10/11 9:18
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good riddance...

krissyyork Posted on 10/11 9:22
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good he does nothing for us anymore anyway

saw it on sky sports hes been talking to southgate about leaving

C.o.c.k

scoea Posted on 10/11 9:29
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One minute butter. That is impressive.

Who could blame him. I wouldn't want to play in front of a bunch of know nothing, fickle and abusive fans either.

I just hope that southgate can earn his corn and persuade him that his future lies here. If he were to go there would be a gaping gap in our first 11 that would be almost impossible to fill in our current position and with our current spending power.

No doubt this will simply give the likes of butter yet another stick to beat the lad with. Truly pathetic.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 9:31
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Calm down scoea!

buttermyarse Posted on 10/11 9:32
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Scoea.. You have your opinion and I have mine..The boy is not interested and obviously wants to be away...accept it and then we can get somebody who WANTS to play for Boro

Chappy_112 Posted on 10/11 9:34
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Bye Bye

I used to like him, but recently he has been pathetic.

Boro_2006 Posted on 10/11 9:35
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Start the car.......

krissyyork Posted on 10/11 9:39
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know nothing fickle fans?

so we are all wrong when we say downing is not interested, not heart, playing worse than ever?

surely not?

take your rose tinted Fooking glasses off and start getting with the times, Downing is awful

krissyyork Posted on 10/11 9:39
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double post

--- Post edited by krissyyork on 10/11 9:40 ---

holgateoldskool Posted on 10/11 9:40
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What a very intelligent person you are Butter !!!! He has a few bad games - your answer get rid he isn't interested !!!Our one current full England international at a club devoid of genuine class and talent and yet your simplistic view is to let someone who is a match winner with the amount of assists he gives go.

You really are a stupid prat - and you keep on demonstrating this with your constant barrage and it seems your personnal vendetta against Stewy.Your football knowledge is exceptionally limited - as you show on countless occasions.

Chappy_112 Posted on 10/11 9:40
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If I had a tenner for everytime Scoea and others have said "He's having a dip in form." over the past 2 seasons, I'd be a very rich man.

buttermyarse Posted on 10/11 9:43
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He has a few bad games .... right..Try a few bad seasons

Brick_Tamland Posted on 10/11 9:44
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link

Link: link

benboro1985 Posted on 10/11 9:44
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"He is a match-winner for us."

Quote from Southgate.

That is what he should be, the type of player to skin a man and create a goal when we are struggling.

Instead he goes misses when we need him, can't remember the last time he tried to go past a defender ?

krissyyork Posted on 10/11 9:45
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time to move on

downing not for us, ability...limited these days

lack lustre, heartless

wears his heart on his sleeve, yeah right, and by that i dont mean jumping into tackles, i mean passion working hard, doing the best you can....dont make me laugh

scoea Posted on 10/11 9:49
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Chappy, you'd barely be able to afford a couple of match tickets.

I won't accept it. He is one of our best players suffering a dip in form. You would think that as a local lad come good he would be afforded a little bit of support. Sadly, that isn't in the mentality of the likes of butter.

It is utter nonsense that he isn't interested and his reaction to Luke Young's goal tells you as much.

Woody is currently playing well below his level. Is he not interested?

Utterly pathetic.

Chappy_112 Posted on 10/11 9:57
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I wouldn't though, seem to read it every couple of weeks which tells you something.

As for Woodgate, yes he is playing poorly but I think he is allowed a bit of space by the fans because he was outstanding last season I can only think of him having one bad game which was Watford away. As for Downing I can think of him having one outstanding game which was Bolton.

You don't mind players having a dip in form if you can see the effort and determination, if you can truthfully say you can see that in Downing then fair enough that's your opinion but we obviously see the game differently.

What I see is someone who is scared to run at people, he won't even control the ball he gets rid of it straight away, that to me is hiding and not being a man and taking responsibility. I don't think he has even put in any decent crosses recently.

Plus the fans don't get on his back from the start of games, if they see him trying and playing well they will support him. It's when he is gash like against Spurs that they get on his back so it's no excuse for him playing poorly.

Rochemback is the perfect example of someone who doesn't hide he has had more abuse over his first two seasons than most but he gets his head down wants the ball all the time.

If Downing suddenly turns around and walks away well then goodbye we don't want players like that.

bear66 Posted on 10/11 9:57
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This 'he's not interested line, let him go' worries me a bit - if we could just bring in quality players to replace 'quality' players, that's fine, but we can't anymore. Downing's performances started off well for the first 6 games or so but have been poor recently, especially away from home. He has got some star qualities and we can't afford to lose him. Schwarzer will go and we'll suddenly realise that he was/is a class keeper (I've always had concerns with his kicking and handling crosses but we will struggle to get anyone better). On the same angle we should not have let Yakubu go. £12m is supposedly good business but we can't replace him as we buy inferior, injury prone 'strikers' who will soon have the fans on their backs; the fans don't get any benefits of the £12m in reduced ticket prices . . . so what is this supposedly 'good business'? We need to 'cut our cloth' and keep the talent we have - if the stars are underperforming, it's the manager's responsibility to sort that out.

Rod100 Posted on 10/11 10:03
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classic PR - engineering a move elsewhere to get a huge pay rise.

shythouse IMO.

holgateoldskool Posted on 10/11 10:10
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Chappy, you are so right about seeing the game differently.

-The fans don't get on his back at the start of games - well take a bow you men of honour !
-So it's no excuse for him playing poorly - he's human you dip stick! Virtually every player has a dip in form.

Frankly when you have to try and reason with such comments as those - well you know you have a challenge !

jaffa127 Posted on 10/11 10:10
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THis fella did ok against man u and then made a mistake and walked about the ground from that min! then against spurs he did nothing no runs with or without the ball, now he comes out with this!
Footballers are truely stupid

scuzzmonster Posted on 10/11 10:15
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What bear66 says is right. We have to at very least replace like for like. If we continue to bring in players who lack the quality of the ones shipped out, we go downwards. Rapidly. QED.

scoea Posted on 10/11 10:16
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Chappy, over the last few seasons he has been, by some distance, our best player. I include Woodgate in that. He is a 23 year old lad that is learning the game in front of his own people. When those people turn on him it is little wonder he loses confidence. And they do go at him from the first minute and every mistake is now met with a chorus of jeers. That is ridiculous.

I don't see a lack of effort, I genuinely don't. I see a player lacking in confidence playing in a team bereft of any form. It happens and is no reason for the vitriolic campaign against him.

At the start of the season he was excellent. That has changed as the team has lost its way but it will come back. Form is temporary, class is permanent and this kid has class.

It would be an absolute disaster if we were to let him go and people need to start supporting him. You would think that would be a given for a Pally Park lad that has gone on to play for England but not with our lot.

timfrancoII Posted on 10/11 10:16
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bear66, spot on.

Chappy_112 Posted on 10/11 10:18
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And when I have to talk to arrogant people like you it is also a challenge.

My reason for saying that is that people say he is playing badly because the fans get on his back, well they don't do it from the start of the game so that can't be the reason.

Yes again I accept players have dips in form but like I said it's amazing how often he is having a dip in form.

So stop being sarcastic and think about it dipstick

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 10:21
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' And they do go at him from the first minute and every mistake is now met with a chorus of jeers'

I've only missed two home games and there was no chorus of jeers at the other matches, so when did it happen. I've sat in different stands for the games as well, so where's it coming from?

Chappy_112 Posted on 10/11 10:22
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Scoea, fair enough thats your opinion. Obviously we see things differently, I have never booed the lad and I never will because it's not something I do but I do see why the people boo whether it's right or wrong.

You see a talented player trying to do well for his club all the time.

I see a talented player who hides when something goes wrong.

I think it should be left there really. At least you can actually have a debate with you though rather than abuse.

holgateoldskool Posted on 10/11 10:26
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-If Downing then suddenly turns around and walks away well then goodbye we don't want players like that -

Chappy - are you so arrogant to think Boro will/would attract players of his ability to club? We are seeing what buying mediocrity in the striking department brings us - a season of struggle, strife as we amongst the lowest scorers in the division.

The irony of it is it's OK for you to dish it out to Downing but you can't take it - even when it is warrented as your post clearly demonstrates!!!

dennisthedog Posted on 10/11 10:27
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Is Downing our top scorer still?

I think I would struggle to do my job if people kept booing me and telling me I was rubbish.

If he goes who will replace him? Johnson?
Of all our home grown players Downing is the only one in the England squad. It's funny how the people who have the big jobs in football are wrong and that all the armchair fans are right

scoea Posted on 10/11 10:27
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There are two things here Chappy. I have never and will never mind a differing viewpoint. We agree he is a talented player. Where we disagree is that you think he is hiding whereas I see a fragile confidence being shattered by fans booing him. That's the first thing and I don't have a problem with that, we each have a different opinion but neither of us are prepared to abuse him at the match and instead choose to support the team.

The second thing is what I see as the real problem and I find it pretty reprehensible. I have a season ticket and before the match, in the warm up, there were people sat around me (and not one or two but groups of them) actually giving him stick before the match had kicked off. During the match it got worse and by the end of the game he was being pilloried. That, to me, is unacceptbale and is doing a great deal of harm to a player that I see as our best. I am not, in any way, surprised that his form has dipped and he has gone into his shell.

It was clear in pre-season that Gate was building him up, giving him more licence and trying to get the best out of him. It worked too because he was playing very well and scored 3 in the first 7 games. Our OWN fans have beaten that out of him and Southgate must be tearing his hair out.

rick4974 Posted on 10/11 10:33
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i aint heard any jeers directed towards downing. he's a grown up lad, surely he can take some criticism? This blaming of the fans is a smokescreen for him wanting out, he doesnt have the balls to admit he wants to leave. Lets be honest, would we really miss him? i'm not having a go at downing but over the past 18 months he's not been the same player he was when returning from sunderland.

Maybe its his agent, maybe its his England pals, maybe its HIM, one thing is for sure, we will be better off parting company and getting somebody else in.

brittleboy Posted on 10/11 10:36
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my worry about this is not so much losing Downing, we could cope with that although i do thinkhe is a very good player.

I can'thelp but wonder what the effect on other younger players coming through and their opinions of the club when they watch the most highprofile product of the academy get driven out by his own fans. I know it would make me think twice about whether this was the right club for me.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 10:37
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So when did all of this barracking happen?

teesste Posted on 10/11 10:39
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Well lets not worry.. if downing does go we'll have adam johnson to fill his position.

Then i'll give it 3 months before the morons that are on downings back constantly are then ripping into him everytime he misplaces a pass or doesn't put a fookin tackle in!

Everyone is quick to blame the club for our apparent decline and player disharmony but i think there are a fair few so called fans who should take a long hard look at themselves.

Totality Posted on 10/11 10:39
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If I was Downing, I'd be off like a shot.

He's young, he does have talent, but let's face it - other than a Cup run - what will he win here? He'd do right to head to a bigger side if the opportunity was there. He'd stand a better chance of winning things, and he'd play with better players, which in turn would help his own game.

That, of course, is unless he side stepped, which I don't think he will. If he stays in this country, I could see it being with Liverpool, Spurs or Everton. All 3 are bigger than us, like it or not.

Another plus from Downing's point of view would be the press. Playing for unfashionable Boro does him no favours. Would the press (and in turn fans who pay attention to the press, especially for England) have given him a rough ride if he'd been playing for a London club the past few years? I doubt it.

Now, from our point of view, I'd actually be tempted to sell him. He's a good player, I'm not denying that, but in some cases - especially with talk of purse strings being tightened etc - we need to be a selling club. Yakubu would still be getting games for us this season if we didn't sell, but for £11m, it was great business. A similar fee for Downing, and I'd be tempted to sell, especially if he's wanting to leave.

We have a potentially England international in Johnson, but while Downing is here, he won't get a REAL chance.

The club is always bigger than any one player, and as talented as Downing is, I don't think it would be a massive blow if we were to sell.

rick4974 Posted on 10/11 10:41
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coraigh, it doesnt happen.

oh hang on, yes it does, when he plays for england.

so does that mean he wants out of the england squad due to him being jeered??????

i doubt it, its a smokescreen, blaming the fans for him wanting to go for more money

Huan_Kerr Posted on 10/11 10:42
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Of course there are always several ways of looking at things.

If you actually read the echo article his main beef is the lack of a revised contract, he feels that being an International warrants a better deal. His current deal runs out in 2010.

The cynics might suggest that the boo'ers provide a convenient excuse to extract a better deal and if its not avialable another excuse to fk off elsewhere.

scoea Posted on 10/11 10:43
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I disagree Totality.

For me, he is our best player and if you continue to sell your best players and replace them with players that aren't as good you will get relegated.

In addition, it sends out completely the wrong message about the club. There were reasons for selling Yakubu but we have never said we are a "selling club". Selling Downing would be absolute confirmation that we are.

It's a slippery slope and not one that we should go down.

Ricky_Grifon Posted on 10/11 10:45
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Totality....... Very good post fella and some good points made, i will also go along with the Adam Johnson bit.

In fact the more i think about it,maybe we should cash in ...it's going to happen one day.

boro74 Posted on 10/11 10:45
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Southgate should offer him a pay rise and a new long term contract so that we can hold onto him as long as possible.
Plus we will get a bigger fee when he eventually moves to Manu.

For all those who want him out now, please give me a list of all the current england internationals that are queuing up to join us...

Totality Posted on 10/11 10:45
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Thing is though, scoea, how do you know how good Johnson can be without giving him 10-12 starts? Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Downing at all with my comments, but I can see the positives (as well as the negatives) if this did happen.

I know we've never said we're a selling club, but ultimately, unless you're top 4 or have a billionire backing you, you are one.

radiogaga Posted on 10/11 10:47
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I would be gutted if we lost our best player. I cannot believe all these fans talking Charlie Amer style of "cashing in".

The dream of having a team with a fair share of local talent would be shattered. We would become a club that hounds it's own lads from the town.

This booing individual players belongs to the Man City's of this world.

I really hope Stu stays with us, and it is time for us to stick by Stu.

rick4974 Posted on 10/11 10:48
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downing to manu? ya joking right??????

nani, ronaldo will be the future for united.

downing will end up at somewhere like everton, spuds, villa

BrokenLance Posted on 10/11 10:48
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We all know Downing is not the bravest of players. When the going gets tough, only the tough get going. Perhaps he doesn't fancy getting stuck in for the relegation battle we find ourselves in, and either he or his agent is manipulating the situation to engineer a move?

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 10:51
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Not many on here know much about football and how to support your local team

dennisthedog Posted on 10/11 10:51
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If Johnson is better than Downing why is he playing for Watford?

Totality Posted on 10/11 10:52
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"If Johnson is better than Downing why is he playing for Watford?"

He's on loan, and playing first team football for them is better than sitting on our bench.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 10:53
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'Selling Downing would be absolute confirmation that we are.'

Not if he doesn't want to be here.

Be honest scoea, he hasn't been pulling his puddings out for some time now. Maybe he's just not happy with the way things are going at the club. We've lost a lot of talent over the last three years and they've been replaced by some very average players. He may see it as a sign of things to come and want away.

A couple of years ago he was brilliant at times, the performances just haven't happened for a while. It could be that his heart isn't in it.

Chappy_112 Posted on 10/11 10:56
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Scoea - I agree with most of that, it is out of order having abuse directed towards him before matches.

Holgate - When did I say we would bring in someone with the same ability? In our situation would I rather have Downing who in my opinion has qualit but hides too often. Or another Gary O'Neil who has less quality but is so consistent and gives 110% in every game.

Gary O'Neil.

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 10:56
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There is a root to every problem
Stuey has the answer to that and if he leaves - i hope he is as honest as Gareth and reveals all

ElvisRamone Posted on 10/11 10:57
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The South Terrace is alive and well and still in residence at the Riverside. I used to sit next to a lad in the East Stand Lower who used to love the sound of his own voice. Used to slate players (especially Deane and Townsend) then look around to see if he was been listened to. I asked him oe day why he hated Deane so much, and pointing out his good aspects (knockdowns, emergency defending). "He's just shyte" was his reply.
If Downing goes, who will the fat choppers who've never actually watched a game properly in their lives turn their venom on next? Woodgate? Rohemback? Young?
You can bet your bottom dollar the dressing room is thinking the same thing. Yes EVERYBODY has the right to voice their opinion but jesus, save your inane chuntering for the club fellas. You wouldn't have the bollox to say it to the lads face.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 10/11 10:57
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"What I see is someone who is scared to run at people, he won't even control the ball he gets rid of it straight away, that to me is hiding and not being a man and taking responsibility"

Chappy, I think that's more down to lack of confidence, but he's certainly not doing what he's paid to do, and indeed what he does best, which is get down the wing, run at the full back and get quality crosses in. As I said on here recently, he needs building up. He has to be told "Looka, you're the best provider at this club, and one of the best in the league. Now go out there and show us why by getting down the wing, running at the full back and getting some decent crosses in."

Rick, you say you haven't heard any booing of Downing. Were you at the Spurs game? There were people booing him as soon as he touched the ball.

Although a different type of player, it reminds me of what happened to a distant cousin of mine, Alan Moody. He was a local lad, but viewed by some the fans as a bit of a dicky dancer, rather than a "blood and guts" get stuck in type of player. He was eventually forced out by boo-boys.

Maybe in two or three years, we'll be able to dish out the same treatment to Adam Johnson. Odd how three or four years ago, everyone was saying how Downing must play every week. I wonder how many of those who were clamouring for his inclusion are now jeering him.

benboro1985 Posted on 10/11 10:58
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Unless he starts showing some passion i will personally drive him up to London or Liverpooll, i will even pay the petrol

scoea Posted on 10/11 10:58
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Mr Cat, he was doing the business in the first 6 games of this season!!!!!!!!!!!

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:00
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He had a couple of half decent games, but still not back to what he was doing a couple of years ago.

rick4974 Posted on 10/11 11:04
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gadgie, i heard no booing in the sw upper. it most only be a select few who are booing him.

plus i was too busy watching the match to listen out for a few people booing.

i'm not saying it didnt happen tho. my gripe is, if its only a select few, why is that getting to him? now if it was the majority of the fans i could understand but it isnt.

like i said its a smokescreen.

dennisthedog Posted on 10/11 11:05
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Earlier this season I was sat next to some bloke who was not a fan of Downing
He shouted at Downing to put the ball in the box which he then did, this bloke then had a go at him for putting the ball in the box when there was no one there.

holgateoldskool Posted on 10/11 11:10
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Gadgie - sorry but Alan Moody was not very good at all - but he did get stick. A better comparison would have been David Mills - who at one stage was to blame for all Boro's ills. In fact the biggest cheer one match was when he was subbed !!!!!!

ElvisRamone Posted on 10/11 11:11
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True HOS

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 10/11 11:14
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Downing had a good start to the season, went off the boil a bit after the first 6/7 games or so, and against Spurs he was woeful.

Nothing happened for him, his performance was lerthargic...bad day at the office. It happens.

But to start to proclaim he is shyte, get rid, etc......FFS. as someone posted previously, the knock on effect with the academy lads will not be good - why make it into the first team if you are going to get booed / jeered if you have a bad game? No thanks.

He is vey much a confidence player, and at the moment he has none. Booing is hardly going to get the best out of him is it?

He will come through this bad spell like he has HAD TO DO for the past 2-3 seasons - including the booing and barracking.

His only saving grace is that he does'nt have to play in front of the chicken run at Ayresome......although the North Stand is doing its best to recreate this nostalgia.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:14
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Millsy took awful stick. I haven't heard so much given to a succesful Boro player.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 10/11 11:16
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Holgate, how dare you say that about one of my family!!!

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 11:16
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I have a son 15 who goes to very home game and his burning ambition is to play for the Boro

He must be mad

scoea Posted on 10/11 11:17
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Half decent??? He was excellent but if he isn't even given credit for that then there is no hope.

Not playing well does not equal bad player. I don't believe it's a smokescreen either. I wouldn't want to play in front of an abusive, fickle and stupid crowd either, no matter how much money I was getting paid. Especially when I was supposed to be 'one of them'.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:21
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Excellent! Now hang on, the team had one 'excellent' game between them, against Brum, he was part of that, but where were the other excellent games?

And where is the abusive crowd? I wasn't at the Spurs match, is that when they turned up?

scoea Posted on 10/11 11:24
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Whether the team had excellent performances or not is irrelevant. For the first 6 or 7 games, Downing was doing very, very well.

Where is the abusive crowd?? Riverside Stadium, Middlesbrough.

holgateoldskool Posted on 10/11 11:24
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Sory Gadgie - but it's true ! Still didn't stop him enjoying a long professional career at Southend !!!

AlBoro1984 Posted on 10/11 11:25
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If Downing wants to leave and we got a 12M bid I'd let him go. No point keeping someone who doesn't want to play for the team. He's having a laugh if he thinks someone like Liverpool or Man Utd would sign him though, he wouldn't make their bench. Spurs would of been the obvious club as they used to just throw big money at clubs for players no one else really wanted but I think Ramos is a bit smarter than that.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 10/11 11:25
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They did Corcaigh.

Both him and Schwarzer were singled out.

Braindead.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 10/11 11:26
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I remember many on here having a go at the In-ger-lund mob who booed Downing, yet many of our fans are now having a go at him. It's going to be interesting to see the reaction when his name is read out before the Villa game.

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 10/11 11:27
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Holgate, I'm too young to have seen "our Alan" play for Boro, but family is family y'know.

--- Post edited by Boro_Gadgie on 10/11 11:28 ---

scoea Posted on 10/11 11:29
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That's the thing - he does want to play for us and he is clearly interested. What these people are confusing is a lack of confidence for a lack of effort.

By the way, he IS good enough to play in teams like Manure and Liverpool. It seems many of you won't realise it until he leaves.

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 11:30
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Just for the record
Downing was in excellent form, which had a lot to do with Arca being in the side, same when zenden was here Remember ?
If you have not noticed Arca is injured, and when playing down the left with Taylor and Downing with Rocky floating we were very impressive
= first 6-7 games

kermit_the_smog Posted on 10/11 11:31
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

If Downing leaves because of the fans then they should hang their heads in shame, he's one of our most creative players, he's currently our top scorer, over the last few seasons he's been one of our major outlets and an England international regular.

He's in a bit of bad form but all he needs is a confidence boost and to pick up his form.

As experts always say "form is temporary, class is permanent".

He's been made a scapegoat, maybe he should leave just so those fans can see what theyre missing.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:32
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Very impressive = 2 wins, and one of those was the fluke at Fulham.

Come on lads, we've been a bit under the weather this season, even my rose tints can see that.

skiprat Posted on 10/11 11:33
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

"downing will end up at somewhere like everton, spuds, villa"

All a step up from Boro.

rick4974 Posted on 10/11 11:35
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

scoea, are you stewart downing?

come on, you dont really think he's good enough for man united and liverpool?

you'll be telling us he's good enough for real, barca, milan, argentina and boro next

--- Post edited by rick4974 on 10/11 11:40 ---

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:36
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

They are at the moment, skiprat. We need something pretty major to happen if we're going to be back up there.

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 11:36
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

rick
delete brazil

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:38
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Not Brazilian! You'll be telling me he's not black next!

skiprat Posted on 10/11 11:38
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I agree Corcaigh, letting our better players leave won't have us back up there anytime soon.

sasboro Posted on 10/11 11:39
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Oh dear! he wants out and is putting the blame on the fans.

I reckon he has seen how poor we are now and wants to go to a team with better players especially upfront. He has probably been tapped up and heard he can double his money elsewhere. I can see him going to spurs or newcastle. he will have seen 2 top strikers leave and be replaced with inferior players. Now he has heard how much they earn elsewhere.

Its not the first time he has wanted to leave, he wanted out when he couldnt get in the team when zenden was signed but his dad persuaded him to stay.

Lets cash in and give johnson a chance and spend the money some strikers. SOunds like his head has been turned.

After these comments i can see the fans turning against him and now will leave in january. He is disappointed in the clubs lack of ambition and where we are in the league. Probably had his head turned.

Dont think he has the appetite for a relegation battle and wants a way out while he can. time to cash in and get palyers who want to play for the club. He probably think he is too good to want to be in a relgation battle.

Cant see him going to any of the top 4. Can only see spurs, man city or newcastle coming in for him. His away performances are usually average so that wil put off any of the big clubs.

I'm a bit concerned that southgate isnt in control of the dressing room

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Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 11:39
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

splitting hairs Corcaigh
Yes we were impressive down the LEFT with a new formation TEAM
A win is a win numbnuts

sparkins Posted on 10/11 11:43
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

For me it is a real chicken and egg scenario. Do the fans boo because Stewy isn't performing, or does Stewy's performance level drop because fans boo? The big fact is that we are in a dogfight and it is up to every single person associated with the club, be that manager, star player, fans, tea lady etc, to pull together.

We all know that Downing is a player with no small amount of talent, we also know that he is as fragile as a 3 week old egg. We need to get behnd him and he in return needs to show us that he is a supporter of the club as well as a player by showing what it means to him to play for his home town club.

My own perspective on this is that I would love nothing more than for him to stay and to shove the boos back down the throats of those issuing them. However, if he doesn't have the stomach for the fight and someone is willing to pay the asking price then so be it. Players come and go - each time any club loses a star asset it is as if the sky has fallen in - personally I don't subscribe to that view. Someone will come through and replace him (loo at Arsenal with Henry, Utd with Cantona, . Maybe that will be Johnson, maybe it will be someone else from outside the current group of players.

Erimus.

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 11:45
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

'We need something pretty major to happen if we're going to be back up there.'

Back up where? We've only finished on the top half on two occassions, our highest finish is 7th.

Last year we finsish 12th and we're curerently 15th. Just where is it we are trying to get back up to?

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ire92 Posted on 10/11 11:46
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

cant believe some people want him to leave let me guess the boo boys from last week, why would you want an England International to leave the club everyone knows he's got the talent it's doing it on a consistent basis

if we get a few wins you just watch downing and we will see then who wants him to leave

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 11:48
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

he started the season brilliantly, got 3 goals and looked bang on form. One or two below par performances and the fans jumped on him in a flash.

And now he's suffering from a lack of confidence and doubts about his future. It's quite simple, get behind him and he can deliver, get on his back and we force him out.

I don't blame him for looking elsewhere, our fans are shhit.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:48
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Woody, we obviously have different expectations, but from an impressive display I'd like to see 3 points most of the time.

Skiprat, I agree, he shouldn't be sold, unless he doesn't want to play here. That's what it's sounding like, then blaming the fans for it.

None of it may be true anyway, you know what the press is like.

skiprat Posted on 10/11 11:51
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I don't think it can be discredited with the quotes Southgate gives.

I guess it depends on how it's happened, if he just wants to leave then fair enough, I only want players here who want to play for us, but if he's been forced out and then had to make this decision then that is disgraceful from our fans.

As a side note, I cannot for the life of me think of any other clubs fans that are behaving like ours are when facing a relegation battle. Look at the difference backing and strong backing made to Portsmouth a few seasons back. Even West Ham last season.

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 11:53
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I am a realist Corcaigh - life is so simple like that.
Many teams put in good performances and get beat or end up with a draw, its called football
We are 1 of 8 teams fighting for survival this season, we will be nailed on if our form does not improve and the so called fans dont lay off

ayresome_82 Posted on 10/11 11:56
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

What a load of tosh some of you talk, 'good riddance'?? FFS give your heads a shake, the lad is one of our best players, i think the problem lies with his fragile confidence and the fact that some morons decide to give him a bollocking for not getting stuck in when that isnt his game.

Surely we should be supporting our best home grown player, not 'driving him out' of the club.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/11 11:56
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

He started the season brilliantly yet he's already suffering a lack of confidence. Something doesn't ring true, we've only played 12 matches.

'Back up there' means giving the teams mentioned a game, we're not doing that.

borolad259 Posted on 10/11 11:58
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

In Downing we have a two footed (he can score screamers with his right peg) player with pace, and good delivery. He's clearly a confidence player though, and does suffer dips in form. Unfortunately he plays in front of some of the most deluded, ungracious, cock-eyed so called supporters in the country. Pub know-alls, they know better than Gibson, Southgate, MacLaren, Robson etc etc etc the fans that boo their own team are a disgrace and not worthy of the term "supporter".
If he goes, and I wouldn't blame him, it will send a terrible message to Gibson, the management and every other member of our squad and accademy. That message will ultimately be that the fans will get the team that they deserve. The cheap shot boo monkeys simply do not deserve Downing. They're despised by the players, and by most of their fellow SUPPORTERS. I really wish they'd piss off and join the other deluded pillocks up the road.

sasboro Posted on 10/11 11:58
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I like the way that everything always ends up blaming the fans.

When will the players, manager and clubs stand up and take responsibility for themselves for the position we are in.

if downing hasnt the stomach for a relegation battle then sell him in january.

Every club has its booing when playign rubbish, we are no different than any other team.

Why has booing suddenly become a hot topic in the dressing room?is it because we are near the bottom of the table and players want to blame everyone but themselves. I remember far worse booing in recent seasons. Every club has people who boo when playing rubbish.

Downign has probably been tapped up and wants a way out. Probably heard how much he can earn elsewhere. Plus he is probably not happy that we have failed to replace viduka and yakubu

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Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 12:00
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

If he goes im starting a new hobby, anyone can join in
Boo Boy Bashing

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 12:01
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I think it's the booing of individuals more than the booing of the whole team.

Targeting Schwarzer and Downing or any player is unfair, it's a simple as that.

Why would you stick around and play for your home town when it's people are singling you out and making life harder for you.

HOGG1234 Posted on 10/11 12:05
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Players come and go, what makes a football club is the fans! We live here we will always support the boro, players shouldn't blame the fans! The fans are the club!
I wouldn't want him to go but as a boro fan he should know not to turn on the fans.
That wont help him at all, we are all frustrated.

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sasboro Posted on 10/11 12:07
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

well after those comments he has put himself in the firing line and made himself a bigger target for the boo boys.

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 12:08
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

If our fans make our club, then I'm ashamed to support them.

If that really is the case, then why don't we make oursleves a set of fans to be proud of, not a bunch of whinging squeeling little fannis.

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sasboro Posted on 10/11 12:10
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

without the fans boo boys or not there would be no club.

turner, i'm guessing you were born in 1986. which was whent eh club was reformed and without fans turning up and havign collections the club wouldnt be here today

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 12:11
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

sas, you are right, because Middlesbrough fans being the way they are, if they know they are having an effect on the player, regardless of the consequences, they'll do it even more.

I can't see a future here for Downing now unfortunataely, and the boo boys only have themselves to blame.

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 12:13
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

'and without fans turning up and havign collections the club wouldnt be here today'

it's a shame many of those 'fans' seem to have forgotten that, yes I was born in 1986, my Dad has been a season ticket holder since long before I was born and I am well aware of what nearly happened, which is why I also know how fortunate we are to be where we are now.

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 12:14
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

SAS i guess you are a member of an elite sort of force, have you any tips for my Boo Boy Bashing quest
These Charlie Bronson dvds are a bit dated

Mattyk50 Posted on 10/11 12:17
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

theres some right clowns on this board.

if we hadnt brought downing through the youth academy we could never attract a player of his calibre to the club.

one question, if he leaves us, do you think he will go to a bigger or smaller club? says it all.

RedWurzel Posted on 10/11 12:20
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I can't believe the negative agenda of some fans and their 100% cynical thinking.

Some seem to think Downing's almost sole agenda is to get a transfer or more money. He's not a foreign journeyman, can people see that. If he was so keen to leave he have gone by now.

Some of the comments are just down right fiction "I haven't seen him play a decent game for 2 seasons" so you didn't go to Bolton at home last season when he took them apart. It was probably the best left wing performance from any player I have ever seen at the Riverside. Can anyone disagree.

Part of the problem is that people want scapegoats at present becuase we only have 9 points and Downing is an easy target. He was put on a pedestal and because he is showing some faults and is missing Arca's creativity and energy his form has dipped.

We have to accept if Downing was perfect he would be at MU now as they have the megabucks,by having some faults we can keep him and get performances that can hurt top opposition.

Keep the faith.

boro8686 Posted on 10/11 12:21
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

great point matty big clubs would be straight in for him cos quality english players like him don't come around that often.

sasboro Posted on 10/11 12:23
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

does he get booed while DJing?

We are in a relegation battle and want layers upfor the fight not players who have had their head turned and wanting a way out

"great point matty big clubs would be straight in for him cos quality english players like him don't come around that often."

like who? i can only see spurs, man city and newcastle come in for him.

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Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 12:24
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Players who can use both feet like he can, go inside or outside like he can, and cross like he can don't come along very often, English or not.

Anyone who says our squad wouldn't miss him, is an absolute stupid tail who doesn't know what they are talking about.

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 12:26
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

'i can only see spurs, man city and newcastle come in for him.'

All clubs that we are looking to be competeing with.

sasboro Posted on 10/11 12:28
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

tuner, but we are near the bottom so not really competing with them. replace with fulham,sunderland, bolton and derby

When you read the northern echo article you will see that they are implying that downign is after a new contract and nothing has materialised. He is an england international so will want similar money to what england players earn. So maybe he jsut wants a pay rise and so hinting to boro he might leave.

Woodymfc Posted on 10/11 12:28
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

See you later folks im off to Afghan

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 12:31
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

As I said, 3 clubs we are looking to be competing with, 2 of them at the moment are ahead of us in the table by some distance. So why would they want Downing?

simon1586 Posted on 10/11 12:33
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Downing is being driven out - what a joke. He is seeing the oportunity to be a rat leaving a sinking ship.A player with any fibre or caharcter would try to perform on the pitch and therefore ram it down the throats of the booers.I honestly think the whole thing is being whipped up by his agent. Who would take him and how much for though? None of the big four would want him. Man City have Petrov, Everton have recently fallen for one of our big name underperformers.Since Downing started to believe his agent's hype he will probably think any other clubs are beneath him. When Maclaren's gone he won't even be in the England squad. All of this will have a major effect on any transfer fee, I think £10 million is fantasy. For all that I don't think he should play if he hasn't the stomach for it and if he is not going to play he may as well be sold on.

I think Spurs wil have re assessed their interest in him and I suspect any money they spend during the window will be going to Spain.

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mad_frankie Posted on 10/11 12:35
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

"The 23-year-old, named in the latest England squad at around the same time by Steve Mc- Claren, outlined his growing frustrations to Southgate and it is understood the club's failure to reward him for his progress in the last 18 months also figures prominently in his thoughts."

So basically it's all about money,as usual with all footballers.

I hate the modern day top flight football player with a passion you can only imagine.

He can't be bothered giving 100% because he feels he is not getting paid enough.
The fans pick up on the lack of effort.and give him some stick.
He then uses the stick as an excuse for a move,which will give him (surprise,surprise) more money.
If the fans defending him can't see this,you are as stupid as the fans who boo him are.
It's all about money,for the average football fan who does not live in the cash fuelled,agent driven insulated bubble which footballers now inhabit it is a waste of emotional energy getting excited about it.

boro8686 Posted on 10/11 12:37
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

sas spurs, man city and newcastle are big clubs much bigger than boro

boro8686 Posted on 10/11 12:38
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

is it just me or are we talking about our top scorer this season?

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 10/11 12:40
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

No, it's not you we're talking about, it's definitely our top scorer. Read the thread title...

Bukowski_MFC Posted on 10/11 12:44
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

This news and thread depresses me.

It's Stuart Ripley all over again.

Too many of our fans have always been and will always be jealous vindictive bile-filled pr~cks.

Well done, it looks like you'll be getting your wish soon enough and Downing'll be gone. Then you can turn you'll be able to turn your venom onto Adam Johnson after a couple of matches.

And bizarrely you'll probably start calling Downing "Judas".

Let's be honest, he probably needs to move anyway before his confidence is damaged beyond all repair by the boo-boys. It happened to Alan Moore.

--- Post edited by Bukowski_MFC on 10/11 12:48 ---

simon1586 Posted on 10/11 12:46
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Top scorer in a team that couldn't hit a cow's orse with a banjo. He has three goals, one hit straight into a wall which obligingly jumped out of the way, one tap in and a shot which , I suspect beyond Downing's control, swerved unexpectedly around the keeper. Yes I know they all count but let's not get too carried away about Downing's goals this season.

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mad_frankie Posted on 10/11 12:48
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Fook them all,I'm going to watch egg chasing instead.

sasboro Posted on 10/11 12:48
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

ripley left for better money and a chance of winning things.

Fook me if he goes we will be fine, everton flogged rooney and are a better team. Just get what we can and reinvest in the team. No player is bigger than the club. Downing has always been afunny bugger and its not the first time he has thought about leaving. It wouldnt surprise me if his agent is behind all this

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boro8686 Posted on 10/11 12:48
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

borogadgie....what a laugh you must be on a night out ffs

sasboro Posted on 10/11 12:51
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

which of his cars will he be driven out in?

Boro_Gadgie Posted on 10/11 13:03
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Boro8686, just being sarcastic. Chill out, lad!

green_beret20 Posted on 10/11 13:20
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

So really the matter of fact is he wants paying more and the club and himself have failed to discuss new terms.

Thats a failure at club level.

If he seriously thinks (and I doubt he does) our fans are worst than any others he's wrong. He'd be booed at old trafford given his recent performances.

He's just using the fans as a front to get the club to discuss new terms.

scoea Posted on 10/11 13:25
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Can someone show me the quotes from Downing in the article please. I assume that there are some because many of the posters on this thread, most notably (and not unusually) sasboro are stating it as absolute fact that Downing is using this to get a better deal. Anyone?

Oh, and Sas, just so you know, no-one is blaming the fans for Downing's or the team's form. What we are all saying is that it doesn't help and is worsening the situation. Anyone that can't see that Downing was scared to do ANYTHING wrong against Spuds is not watching properly.

green_beret20 Posted on 10/11 13:28
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

If the crux of the article is false then Socea, Downing should release a statement saying the contrary.

We can only read what we're given.

scoea Posted on 10/11 13:32
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

That has to be the lamest comment I have read on here for a while. Unless there is a denial you believe everything in the newspapers?? Fook me.

green_beret20 Posted on 10/11 13:37
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Do you seriously believe that if Downing wanted better terms from the club he go to the Northern Echo and tell them?

Maybe if he had the IQ level of yourself.

Besides if the article is false he should state it. It’s that simple.

Turner_86 Posted on 10/11 13:39
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

So now it a case of Downing wanting more money, so he should f**k off and the club should get rid.

Now then, when Viduka wanted more money, the club got loads of stick for not offering him enough and allowing him to leave.

scoea Posted on 10/11 13:39
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

So now you're insulting me?? Very clever.

Is it beyond the realms of possibility that a newspaper makes up a story??

Also, the story came out this morning. Would you expect Downing to call an immediate live press conference on CNN??

stocko_mfc Posted on 10/11 13:49
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Downing is a good player and is still trying his best for the team. Every player suffers dips in form, and its harder to get out of that dip when morons are on your back with every little mistake.
If he does leave i hope all you boo merchants and the idiots who slag him constantly will be proud of themselves....
Keep it up lads a few more years whining, slating and generally moaning about everything Boro and you might even be able to get Steve Gibson to walk away from the club. That will be like winning the FA Cup to you numptys though wont it.
Fcukin Morons!!!!!

boro74 Posted on 10/11 17:29
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

For those claiming that Downing has been rubbish for the last two seasons here is what the Actim Index statistics say for last season...

Without doubt Downing is Boro’s most consistent attacking outlet. He has clocked up the most successful passes (440), most crosses (193), most dribbles (39) and most assists (seven) in a season which, mathematically at least, has been a personal success.

Those figures have made him the 13th highest ranked midfielder in the Premiership, no mean feat given the cash spent on world class stars by the league’s big boys.

Sceptic_Frank Posted on 10/11 17:39
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

But boro74, he doesn't throw himself into leg-breaking challenges. Everyone knows that's the true measure of a top player.

kermit_the_smog Posted on 10/11 17:50
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Aye, just like Henry, Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldinho, all the likes.

They go flying in and win 50/50s all the time.

Who cares if they score goals or assist, if they pull outa 50/50s that's it for me, they wouldnt get near my boro team.

Ahem.

If Downing does leave I hope he goes on to be a top class player just to show some of the fukers up on here.

At the game against Spurs he was barracked from the first minute, there's no wonder he hides in his shell and doesnt wanna try things as he gets abuse from every stand.

keelo Posted on 10/11 18:00
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

what Scoea said ......there are some fookin idiots on this board!!!who should we replace him with!!!!bunch of fooking boo boys posting absolute crap!!!

northsouth12 Posted on 10/11 18:03
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I think Downing is a good player but overated but I will say I totally agree about the Dj'ing 'ReturnOfTheJim'... He wants it all...if you want to rake in the megabucks during your career, then blatant social,showboating whether it be drinking,showing off or whatever is a bit of a PXXX take in my book as you have to make sacifices on the social scene and also especially as he must be taking advance bookings and not sure how his or the teams performance will stand up ?? ....Surely if he's that gutted about a potential defeat on a Saturday, how the hell should he feel like Dj'ing ??? He is obviously taking bookings weeks in advance...dangerous game Mr Downing..and not gonna make you popular if you still turn out regularly on a Sat night aftet crap displays and bad results .. get your priorities rate mate and show some respect to the fans some of whom seem to care a lot more than you ?

rick4974 Posted on 10/11 18:17
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

if he wants to be a dj, let him be 1, but he cant continue to be a pro footballer.

scoea Posted on 10/11 18:21
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I repeat, what the hell has his DJing got to do with anything??

It's a hobby and if he were playing golf, taking his missus out for a meal and some wine or even in a pub none of you would have anything to say about it.

stocko_mfc Posted on 10/11 18:39
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

DJ'ing might be a way for him to relax in his own free time.
Im surprised some of the knockers dont go and watch him just so they can boo if he doesnt get the mix right.

br14 Posted on 10/11 19:54
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Fair amount of envy on here today.

He's angling for a new contract. If Johnson returns the club have a strong negotiating card so he's got in early.

If the DJing stops him from drinking but gives him a bit of a life outside of football - seems fair enough.

Boy_Wonder_MFC Posted on 10/11 20:36
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

DOWNING
DOWNING
DOWNING!!!!!










BYE

BullyGoldfish Posted on 10/11 20:40
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I'd leave if I were him. He's had it before and its happening again. A load of Billy-no-marks are at him again. There's plenty on here.

Is it only the Boro crowd who actually single out their home town players for bile and derision? Liverpool cherish theirs, through thick and thin.

Of course, all the rest of the team are playing great, so its right to get at the one weak link. Duh.

There are many on here I wouldn't like to stand next to in a trench

HolgateEnd Posted on 10/11 20:55
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

I cannot believe some of the total and utter dog shyte i have read in this thread.

Downing is a quality player having a bad spell, that's all. He is not shyte in any shape way or form. Trouble with most Boro fans is that they would prefer to see a sack of shyte who works hard and tackles, rather hard than a gifted player (barring Juno and Merson for some reason) who can create and score goals.

Bukowski_MFC, you summed the situation up best for me. It's Ripley all over again. He left because he'd had enough of the fans unfairly abusing him every week and he felt the club would never win anything while he was here. I could understand it 100% if Downing felt the same.

All you mindless morons having a go at the best talent our academy/club has ever produced, go and give your heads a wobble. Or even better, fook off and watch Sunderland or Hartlepool before you chase any more of our great young players away.

The really simple fact is that you are all jealous. Jealous that some kid off Pally Park has more money, fame and a better lifestyle than you. Absolute wan kers.

addison_road Posted on 10/11 21:00
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

"I'm being driven out"....probably in a Ferrari!

bear66 Posted on 10/11 21:02
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

My estimation of Curtis Fleming has gone up significantly - what that guy, who gave everything he had in every game, had to put up with week in week out - anyway, what exactly is driving Downing out - great player, shame he's so sensitive . . . unlike Curtis, not such a great player but a true professional

ERIMUS63 Posted on 10/11 21:05
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

liverpool cherrish theres through thick and thin
thats why they burned gerrards shirt when he wanted out

HolgateEnd Posted on 10/11 21:05
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Addison_Road - ""I'm being driven out"....probably in a Ferrari!"

Exactly what i was talking about. You are jealous.

BullyGoldfish Posted on 10/11 21:21
re: Downing - 'I'm being driven out'

Exactly my friend. Because they wanted to KEEP him.They felt betrayed by him, as one of their own. He treated them terribly, so maybe that was too 'thin' for them.
They wanted to keep him, you see. They poured their support and faith into him and, two minutes after winning the Champions League, we was tempted by the Russian oil dollar.
The Boro have sure poured their support and faith into Downing.

Just as a matter of interest, who else should we get rid of?

Mido seems keen.Keeps kissing the badge as he boards the plane.
Aliadiere plays through injury to get back in the fray
Tuncay has set the place on fire, or mebbe wants to to warm himself up a bit

Yup, there's only Downing thats struggling just now.