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dibzzz Posted on 27/11 22:59
Woman in Sudan to possibly get 40 thrashes

for naming a teddy "Muhammad".

She asked the kids in the school where she teaches in Sudan to name a teddy bear, they ended up calling it Muhammad, now she could face, 6 months in jail or 40 lashes or a fine for blasphemy charges for insulting Islam's Prophet.

FFS! The world has gone mad.

Link: ........

susy Posted on 27/11 23:01
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I disagree, she is in their country and should therefore abide by their laws fully. I just wish that this country wasnt so lenient.

BoroDancer Posted on 27/11 23:02
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All women deserve 40 lashes for thinking that they have any use other than being a wife... a teacher ffs!

susy Posted on 27/11 23:03
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dibzzz Posted on 27/11 23:09
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Oh come on,,,if they named a teddy Jesus over here no one would batter an eyelid,,,it's just a misunderstanding.

susy Posted on 27/11 23:11
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Rubbish, if a teddy was called jesus by a teacher here it would hit the papers and a big fuss would be made!

What she did was wrong in another country, she is living there not here.

BoroDancer Posted on 27/11 23:11
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Whats the difference between 40 lashes and 40 thrashes?

Gillandi Posted on 27/11 23:12
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Meet halfway. She avoids jail, gets her old job back but she has to do the lashes. Give her twenty and suspend twenty. Maybe let her husband or life-partner take a few on her behalf. Doubt she'll feel much after the first 10. Make a great field trip for the pupils.

dibzzz Posted on 27/11 23:13
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Well I think it's crazy me, no matter what country your in.

flakey_scrotum Posted on 27/11 23:13
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just because it's the law of the land doesn't make it right....you're a fookin idiot!

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 27/11 23:13
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If the Teddy had of been called Jesus she would have done for marginalising our asian community.

dibzzz Posted on 27/11 23:14
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"Whats the difference between 40 lashes and 40 thrashes?"

A simple error,,,just like the one that woman has made.

susy Posted on 27/11 23:14
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She will be saved by international relations, our govnt will chat to their officials and get her off with a thoroughly good talking to!

foggonsfplandiet Posted on 27/11 23:16
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In Sudan if you inadvertently call a teddy bear Mohammed you get 40 lashes of the whip.

In Britain if you burgle, assault, kill, commit arson or whatever you get 40 phucking social workers, educational psycholgists, psychiatrists, counsellors, defence lawyers, etc. etc. looking after you and asking you not to do it again.

Both The Sudan and Britain have gone mad.

dibzzz Posted on 27/11 23:19
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No it's not rubbish Susy.

First of all the kids called it Muhammad not her, she basicly went along with the idea. Maybe they will lash the kids as well eh? Would that make you happy? their just as much in the wrong as her in your world.

If a kids wanted to call a school teddy Jesus over here, there would be no probs at all, it's just a name and it certainly would not reach any papers.

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flakey_scrotum Posted on 27/11 23:20
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no you don't foggon....if you're gonna wax lyrical get your facts right.....i would hazard a gues you're a regular Sun, Mail, Star or Express reader.....populist bollox!

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BoroDancer Posted on 27/11 23:22
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This issue is purely political. I am sure the majority of Muslims don't take offense at this.

JoeLaidlaw Posted on 27/11 23:23
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foggon - you trying to put me out of a job?

dibzzz Posted on 27/11 23:25
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Yep I agree, I'm sure the majority of Muslims world wide would think this is a tad over the top.

Cecil_J_McTumshie Posted on 27/11 23:58
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40 lashes just for calling a teddy bear Mohammod-FFS it costs 150 over here for 40 lashes-whens the next flight to Sudan

dibzzz Posted on 28/11 0:07
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elnino1 Posted on 28/11 0:11
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Susy you stupid fooking bint, you epitomise why women shouldn't have the vote.

Surely you must be on a wind up?

Even women can't be that stupid to think this is right.

Just shows how backward some of these nations are, and how religion is a load of co.ck, practised by vvankers.

dibzzz Posted on 28/11 0:15
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She must be on a wind up.

Yeah, all this nonsence over relegion again, what a load of all twaddle it is anyway.

If God is this all doing, all knowing, all creative entitiy, then who made God?

I love putting that one to religious members of our family, you should see thier faces as they splutter to answer it.

wiggler Posted on 28/11 0:15
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Its strange call a teddy mohammad and 40 lashes, the oxford union stops the B.N.P talking in a free speech night, yet when the Mohammad cartoons were going about middle east papers had the pope in a noose, no retaliation from the cathalic church and no massive press, a muslim cleric can stand on a street corner and preach hate to the west and nothing happens, i think the woman was naive but is prob there being paid very little and should be released immediately, and for the people who say it is their laws and that should be respected we have laws aswell which we change to suit visitors

penaltybox Posted on 28/11 6:31
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Probably 25% of the males living in Sudan are called Mohammad their parents dont get 40 lashes for calling them that. The children just said a name that they hear all the time.
Having spent time in the middle east and other muslim countries im not suprised in the slightest by this nonsense.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 28/11 6:35
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It's what the right wing numpties want this country to be like.

steelred Posted on 28/11 6:39
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What she doin working in such a volatile place anyway. Fookin Grabba the Hut if you ask me.

susy Posted on 28/11 8:18
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No im not on a wind up but you do seem to have taken what I have said as if I have made the point that the law of 40 lashes is ok. 40 lashes is a barbaric punishment and in our civilisation is totally unacceptable. This woman is living in the Sudan in a position of power and authority guiding young people. She has been incredibly stupid in being so naieve as to allow the children in her care to name a teddy Mohammed. The law of the land she is in dictates that she receives 40 lashes, this punishment wont be carried out because of international interference but it will send out a loud message to the world that in the Sudan they do not tolerate blasphemy.

I would be interested to talk to a muslim to see what their views were, and why the people in the Sudan feel this is so bad. I dont understand it myself.

Teachers research everything before they do it usually, it is in their nature. I guess this lady was foolishly lax in researching the country, its traditions and culture before going to live there.

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Sam_Bow Posted on 28/11 8:20
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She should be given 120 lashes!

40 for Mohammed The Teddy
40 for being a woman
40 for being a teacher

BrokenLance Posted on 28/11 8:21
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Fed up of the Muslim take on things.

We have classical painting of God and Jesus. No one says a word about that. Yet a portrayal of Mohammed causes a frenzy. That means they revere Mohammed more than Jesus or even God, which is surely Blasphemy, even by their own twisted logic.

Hypocrites, the lot of them, (and YES I have worked with them).

Piquet2 Posted on 28/11 8:28
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It was reported on the news earlier that the Sudan authorities said she will be released shortly.

zaphod Posted on 28/11 8:44
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They view it as insulting to Mohammed, as God's prophet, which is a criminal offence in Muslim countries. It's barbaric, but Western countries have not always been blameless in this regard.

It's only a couple of centuries since insulting the Pope (as God's representative on earth) was a crime in some Catholic countries and it's still theoretically a crime to insult the President in France. Until 1989 it was illegal to deface the US flag in most US states.

PS: When I lived in Malawi, people were sent to jail for using the national newspaper to light fires because it had the President's picture in it.

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BrokenLance Posted on 28/11 8:59
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Western countries can be just as bad. Was just over in the US for Thanksgiving (my wife is American) and I went to get my hair cut at a barbershop. Would you believe they were having a bible meeting in there????? I still need to get it cut.

Religion should be be banned. Blessed be.

London_Boro Posted on 28/11 10:24
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A bit of advice that I was once given that some people on here definitely need to take on board.


It's better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt!

dibzzz Posted on 28/11 22:42
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Susy,

You are typing out of your arse pet!

aliasme Posted on 29/11 1:18
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I think they should give the teddy the lashes. After all it is the teddy that's named Mohammed.

Besides they're all filthy infidels creating icons in their own images. Issue a fatwa on all teddys - that'll sort the buggers out.

axel1974 Posted on 29/11 1:20
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you never know.... she might be into bondage

Doctor_Mick Posted on 29/11 4:45
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The old religeon of Arabia was paganism, which Mohammed abolished, and the people worshipped idols and in particular teddy bears so this is why in Islam images of people or animals and especially teddy bears are anathema.

Somehow I think this issue in Sudan not about religeon but about some local bigwig opportunist finding a way to squeeze a few dollars out of HM Gov.

Azedarac Posted on 29/11 10:52
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She originally wanted to call it Sissoko, but the kids were getting covered in scouse spittle so they asked if they could use the player's first name instead.

TheBoroBoss61 Posted on 29/11 13:00
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It reminds me of the "Life of Brian" when he's gonna get stoned for saying "that dinner was fit for Jehovah" and John Cleese is shouting "Blasphemer"(sp)

harry_x Posted on 29/11 14:24
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The only reason the name 'Muhammad' was on the list to choose from was because when the kids were asked to think of some names for the bear, one 7 year old lad couldn't think of anything so he just said his own name, Muhammad.

In Sudan, not many bears about and the general consensus is that they are not that cuddly and would rip your head off given the chance.

Over here it's a bit like naming one of the class stick insects Jesus. Mind you I'm not sure if over here there are many bored 7 year olds called Jesus who can't be arsed to think of an original name for the class pet.

Who knows 7 year old Muhammad in the Sudan might already be a nasty piece of work. If this is the case , perhaps his parents need to be taught a lessen for inslting the prophets name.

Crazy world out there.

dibs72 Posted on 29/11 15:49
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When one faction is at war with another, the first cog to turn in the propaganda machine is to de-humanise the enemy.

showman21 Posted on 29/11 15:57
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What does it have to do with us? She`s in Sudan so lives by Sudanese law. Easy. Same as the people who goto Burma stand shouting their mouths, then get locked up and coming looking here for help.

The UK doesn`t help drug smugglers out of Thailand so shouldn`t help this woman

tarquin_foxglove Posted on 29/11 17:09
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She would have been fine but she wrote a letter to the parents, saying "we have a teddy bear at school called Muhammad, he's a friendly bear and if you want he can come home with little ....
for a weekend and then .... can write about their adventures" etc.

I wish I could get the morons at my daughters school 40 lashes every time they sent me letters filled with such idiotic guff.

foggonsfplandiet Posted on 29/11 18:38
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That's good; a bloke called "Scrotum" says I'm talking "bollox"

Get off your Guardian reader high horse mate, there's plenty of examples of what I said.

TheRedCosack Posted on 29/11 21:00
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the Indian mutiny of 1857 was as a direct result of British authorities who introduced greased cartridges that offended the religious sensibilities of native soldiers, both Hindu and Muslim.

random

radiogaga Posted on 29/11 21:37
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I wish our government was as quick to jail and then deport foreigners who committed minor crimes.



They can't even get shot of the ones who rob and r_ape.

Rio_Verde Posted on 29/11 21:41
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I thought this was a fetish thread. lol. Actually, I got quite a kick out of whipping a lass out in Jamaica recently....although it had nothing to do with her mentioning anything along the lines of Mo-mo.

The_Prophet_Mohammed Posted on 30/11 10:34
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your woman she got off lightly. she know what she done. she an infidel and she should have been lashed. praise be to Allah

SuperBokSupper Posted on 30/11 10:57
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She got 15 days in Jail and is APPEALLING!

FFS woman.

Its their country and their laws.

However lashing the poor bint would have been an atrocity but they relented and gave her 15 days in prison.

Accept it and get on with it.

You cant go into another coutry and basically tell them to fook their laws cos they are not right.

The_Prophet_Mohammed Posted on 30/11 11:00
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you need to respect more the laws of muslim country. you cannot comit these crimes against Islam and get away with it. you must respect law

swordtrombonefish Posted on 30/11 11:00
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Hey The_Prophet_Mohammed fook off Teddy

TheSmogMonster Posted on 30/11 11:29
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I think foggonsfplandiet got it right with his first post.

Thr only other thing I can say is, we don't change our laws for foriegners, why should they change theirs for ours?

susy Posted on 30/11 12:56
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apparently im a stupid bint and shouldnt be able to vote and I talk out of my arse for having the same opinion as superboksupper and the smogmonster.

It seems most of the people on here think that the british should be able to go to any country in the world and carry on abiding by british law and fook the laws of the country they happen to be in!

radiogaga Posted on 30/11 12:59
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If only those who came here obeyed our laws..............



And is there a law regarding the naming of a teddy that visitors should have been aware of?

susy Posted on 30/11 13:07
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She has gone to a country full of religious extremists, she has made a foolish mistake and has been sentenced to 15 days in prison, she is appealing this wtf?? She has been let off lightly. There are many now calling for her to be executed. Teddy naming gone badly wrong. She needed to be much more aware of her position in society and the fact that she was living in such a volatile country.

prepman Posted on 30/11 13:43
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susy,its afooking teddy for fook sake,fook off.

susy Posted on 30/11 13:55
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It doesnt matter one jot what we think of the situation...." its a fooking teddy for fooks sake, fook off" .... to the extremists over there they want her head for this. She is living in a country with lots of extremists, she offended them so she is paying for it. In this country she would have been asked by her head teacher not do it again, over there she has been let off lightly with 15 days in prison and deportation.

joseph99 Posted on 30/11 13:58
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Ask Susy the same question next week, this week must be bad ...

prepman Posted on 30/11 14:01
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not what we think,its what you think worries me.you agree that she should whipped.for calling a teddy bear mohammad.

susy Posted on 30/11 14:06
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Bollox prepman, total bollox. I dont think anyone deserves to be given 1 lash let alone 40 ffs! What I do believe however is that she was a silly arrogant cow who hasnt looked after herself at all. She is living in a foreign country and hasnt respected the culture there and has landed herself in deep poo.
That is her fault, no one elses. I dont agree with extremism but if you live in a country where it is very apparent then you keep very clear from religion in your english teaching..... it doesnt take much brains to work that one out.

Azedarac Posted on 30/11 14:10
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Just wait until they find out she named a pet pig "Allah's Mum".