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dibzzz Posted on 2/12 1:11
Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter.

IMO.

A fan, follows the boro, on tv, on the radio, in the papers, and also goes to the odd game. He likes to see the Boro do well and is a fan of the Boro. I have loads of mates who are Boro fans.

A Supporter, supports the club, home and away (away when possible) by actually turning up, paying for a ticket and getting behind the team. I have loads of mates who are Boro supporters.

Am I correct in this opinion?

toronoboro Posted on 2/12 2:04
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter.

yup
I'm a Boro born lad now living in Canada, used to be a supporter, now a fan

Come on boro

JLinardi Posted on 2/12 2:08
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter.

Yea thats spot on I think, I know too many "fans" though, hence why I have to go to games alone. No one else can be bothered.

onthemap Posted on 2/12 2:56
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

So it all depends on money then? All the folk who can't afford more than a few gams a season they're just fans, not real supporters.
Whatabout those with boxes, the ones with a few bob who pay for the boxes out of company profits then go to just the big games what are they?

Truth is there are a myriad of reasons people don't go and classing the casual supporter as not a true supporter isn't helping the club at all.
Every week on here some clown posts to say that he'd rather just have a hard core of 10'000 singing fans than have a full stadium voicing their dissent when the players don't give their all, how is that possibly supporting the club?
The Riverside was full of families in the early years and yet a family atmosphere with all it's cheesy Pigbag and flag nights are derided as if those days are best forgotten.
The truth is the casual fans should be welcomed back not alienated.

number_10 Posted on 2/12 3:02
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

I disagree with creating these divisions in the first place.

For the vast majority of my life I was a supporter, home and away, all over this country and in europe too. But i've had to give it up, I can't afford it anymore / can't get the days off work.

However, I do go whenever I can (admittely only 4 home games this year) and I don't believe i'm any less passionate than I was before.

morgenstern Posted on 2/12 3:34
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

its a bit tragic these days. i can understand people who go 'blah blah, they get paid loads, blah blah blah'
but its hard to lose the original feeling. its ridiculous, really. sensible people would invest in something more sensible, but i cant help it.

Tom_Fun Posted on 2/12 3:43
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

Bullshiit, it's just semantics. A fan and a supporter are the same thing.

morgenstern Posted on 2/12 3:59
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

possibly, but its probably down to different character traits. i do believe in the wild, some people are natural born warriors, natural born hunters, natural born whatever. if you were in a tribe, your place would be natural.

Lakesideboro Posted on 2/12 4:00
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

I think that is pretty fair and i'm a fan rather than a supporter.

OK i live 350 miles away but us fans still have an input especially financially.

dibzzz Posted on 2/12 8:32
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

I'm not implying that a fan is less passionate about their team than a supporter, or that not being able or afford to go to the games due to other commitments make you less passionate either.

The club needs to adjust it's strategy to allow more supporters into the Riverside.

I have two simple fix's that will help turn fans into supporters.

1. Lower ticket prices.
2. Play games at a set time, 3pm on a Saturday (FA to have a re-think here).

I mean come on, give people a chance, 1.30pm Sunday Kick off next week and 24 for the cheapest ticket ffs.

Boro_Owl Posted on 2/12 8:33
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

I'm a Boro fan, would be a supporter if I had the money.

dibzzz Posted on 2/12 9:03
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

There you go Boro_Owl, we just need the people who run the club to wise up.

TheRedCosack Posted on 2/12 9:57
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

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The_DiasBoro Posted on 2/12 12:07
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

It's the other way round. 'Fan' is short for fanatic.

sad_man Posted on 2/12 12:11
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

'Fan' and 'supporter' are just words that mean the same.

If you want to re-define them that's up to you. But don't expect the world to suddenly adopt your meanings.

If you go around telling people you are a better supporter than other people (who you've never met) then you're a bit sad...

penaltybox Posted on 2/12 12:14
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I wear my Boro shirt everytime i watch them in the pub in Singapore. I`m a Boro supporter.

OooOo Posted on 2/12 12:15
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

I dunno I think his distinction is quite good. A supporter must do something to actually 'support' the team i.e. buy tickets etc.

JLinardi Posted on 2/12 12:17
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

Its not about being a "better supporter" or wether you can afford to go to the games.

The people who id class as a fan are the ones that could easily go to the games, but would rather go shopping or out with the girl friend, and check the result on teletext when they get back.

ElvisRamone Posted on 2/12 12:18
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Jesus wept. What a crock.

However there is a difference between Ra-Ra's and your average fan/supporter or whatever bracket you consider your self to be.
According to Bernie we're Punters not fans/supporters.

OK I'll marginalise myself.
I'm a militant Central Holgate Ender

What faction are you????

Space_Face Posted on 2/12 12:29
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Hardened Chicken Runner

Tom_Fun Posted on 2/12 12:31
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

Foam-handed deserter.

JLinardi Posted on 2/12 12:33
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

3 jackets but full of passion-er

sad_man Posted on 2/12 12:42
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

"A supporter must do something to actually 'support' the team i.e. buy tickets etc."

That would be a financial supporter.

Other groups:
Vocal supporter - fans who sing
Passive supporter - fans who don't sing
Oversea supporter - fans who live in other countries
More:
Pessimistic supporter
Synical supporter ('chicken runner'?)
Optomistic supporter ('Ra Ra'?)
etc

Anyone who wants the Boro to win is a Boro supporter.

dibzzz Posted on 2/12 16:07
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

I think some people getting hold of the wrong end of the stick here.

I've never said, or think I'm a better supporter or more passionate about Boro than any other supporter or fan.

IMO I just think that the some who could go are fans, some who could go and do are supporters.

Nothing conctrete here, just an opinion, some people agree it's a fair point.

boro74 Posted on 2/12 17:47
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

Fans look out for the result on a Saturday afternoon. "How did the Boro get on?" There must be about 100,000 of those.

Supporters go to the game. Not just to be entertained, but to actually get behind the team and to try and influence the result by helping them to play better. We could do with a few more of those.

Senor_Chester Posted on 2/12 17:50
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I don't recall people arguing at Ayresome Park if they were 'fans' or 'supporters' ffs.

pat_the_cat Posted on 2/12 18:12
re: Distinction between a Fan and a Supporter

Well done Senor_Chestor. You have hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned.
There was never any alienation of followers at Ayresome Park. There is to much snobbishness going on now.
I and a lot of my mates followed the Boro home and away, week in week out. There was no questions asked, none of this part time supporter rubbish.
Then it was good fun. Away days were a great day out and cheap compared to today.
Football is totally different today. As are people.

gagarin Posted on 2/12 19:35
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I think "supporter" implies a more active interest than "fan".When I'm writing reports however, I tend to use the two terms interchangably and alternate between them to avoid too many repetitions of the same word.
I use "club' and "team" in much the same way although I am of course, aware that the two words have different meanings. It's just a style thing.

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parmophiliac Posted on 2/12 20:15
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I like to go to home matches when I can, never (to my shame) been to an away match. This is the first season I have been able to go to nearly all the home matches. Usually I have to rely on the media for my fix.

I think this puts me somewhere between a 'Fan' and a 'Supporter'.

I am, therefore, a 'Farter'.