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LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 02/01/2008 23:40
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Another one has been arranged

But this time Dibble will not be getting involved in the wherabouts of it [:D]

The game was played last time with them about where abouts and how they would be getting there

The gloves are off this time

Time to start earning yer money,yer bunch of freeloading F*****s

No to Police pay rises

Overpaid and underworked as it is

Fawcet and Swalesey have had to stump up their own cash for this years holidays [:D]

What a LAFF

Dr_Evil Posted on 02/01/2008 23:42
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Liddle, half the time i love your posts, the other half i never understand a fooking word!

borobadge Posted on 02/01/2008 23:43
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keep it under wraps, liddle..theyre on here yer know!!

borobuddah Posted on 02/01/2008 23:43
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Catch yersel' on Dr?

Space_Face Posted on 02/01/2008 23:43
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Who did he batter to get a tribute day?

Dr_Evil Posted on 02/01/2008 23:45
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Im going to have to ring me dad and me granda to find out what this northern balls you lot are speaking means!

Only joking, its not balls, although cant understand a fooking word.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 02/01/2008 23:46
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That's right Badgey

that's why i'm doing a bit of goading

What happened at Derby was beyond a joke

and a breach on civil liberties

Stopping people from going for a slash,is not on in my book

Piggy Posted on 02/01/2008 23:54
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That seems a bit cruel.

With most of the ex-hoolies being the age they are I reckon they will need a slash every 30 minutes or so these days. Its almost as bad as taking their werthers originals off them.

borobuddah Posted on 02/01/2008 23:56
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Yer not far wrong there, Piggy.

Torture

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 02/01/2008 23:57
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There was some coke bottles filled

i can tell yer [:D]

borobadge Posted on 03/01/2008 00:04
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its another form of torture...........on us oldies....



the owld incontinence pants will have to go on next time...

lyle and scott design, of course....[:D]..

borobuddah Posted on 03/01/2008 00:06
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Do the Billy Connelly night-in-a-club walk down the terrace eh?

Smognessabounds Posted on 03/01/2008 09:02
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'Saddle up and ride your pony!'

Critical_Bill Posted on 03/01/2008 10:05
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LIDDLE, maybe you shouldn't post the intimate details of the trip on here this time.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 10:14
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the ex hooligans will probably tell liddletowers a different day so then he doesnt blag to the world about the proper day.

I heard it is a fundraising event with a pound a punch and 10 if you get claret every where.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/01/2008 10:15
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Did you go to the Derby match, LIDDLE?

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 10:17
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Police wil spot them easily. blokes with beer bellies in their 40s wearing a baseball cap and stone island jumper and white trainers.

kermit Posted on 03/01/2008 10:49
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To be fair, it was probably down that tribute day that we sold out at derby and had such a good atmosphere.

They should have a tribute day every away game!

shaun_84 Posted on 03/01/2008 11:18
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fair point made Sasboro1.pity they never spotted them at the last show against Spurs away a few yr back.

Them lads can turn out unannounced when they want to ...just ask the Yids good numbers as well. I'd say a game of cat and mouse has just begun !!!

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 11:21
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bet most of them can't run very fast now.

shaun_84 Posted on 03/01/2008 11:24
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"Frontline and Run" in the same sentence. unheard of is, it in the dictionary? [:)]

matrix Posted on 03/01/2008 11:57
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sad sad sad

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 12:14
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So then Matrix tell me what's sad about this ????????????


A couple of hundred lads wanted to organise a charity do to hopefully make about 10 thousand pounds for a lad's family who died a few months back suddenly

It was a legit offer and the police were informed of how many were participating and where everyone would be and what it was for

They went along with it at first but sort of pulled the plug the week before,informing Derby and Nottinghams finest that an army of Boro hooligans was coming to a town near them [W*****s]

Just like them maurading armies that went to Villereal,Lisbon, Rome and a few other places

Lock up your Daughters them naughty Boro lads are coming

See the bottom line is the Forest and Derby lads were also informed that this trip would be trouble free as it was a fund raising event and even a few of them offered to participate

Now Cleveland police have been well known for telling lies over the years [cash for guns] [:D] shocking eh, giving informants carte blanche, well i never would have believed it eh


But the moral of the story is the football intelligence officers [ falls of chair laffing] will not stop the lads making money for the Bricks family, a one off gesture to help them out, befor xmas would have been nice but it was not to be

But this time Laurel and Hardy won't be informed of where people are going,so instead of having something passing of peacefully at Derby, they have kind of stirred a bit of a hornets nest up in a way

You kick a dog everyday and one day it will turn around and bite you

That's my last word on the matter [:D]


slipshod Posted on 03/01/2008 14:30
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Liddle, why were the police so funny this time when the last tribute day against Villa for Ragbo passed off peacefully

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 14:32
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how do you raise 10k from a day out on the beer, a punch up and a footy match?

Critical_Bill Posted on 03/01/2008 14:33
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slipshod, the details weren't plastered all over an internet messageboard.
Loose lips sink ships, and all that.

Rochey Posted on 03/01/2008 14:35
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500 lads chipping in 20 quid each = 10,000


slipshod Posted on 03/01/2008 14:37
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I thought the Villa one was also done with the police's consent.

blindschool Posted on 03/01/2008 14:37
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If they stayed at home they could contribute 40 quid each = 20,000.

mat_evans Posted on 03/01/2008 14:39
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So which away matches have we got coming up.................Newcastle

[:D]

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 14:39
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The fact of the matter is slipshod,since ragbo's day they has been a lot of rightful and wrongful banning orders,mainly wrongful in my eyes

No proper police work was done and everything was basically based on hearsay evidence about being guilty by association, blah blah blah

This peson was with a group of known hooligans and was spotted drinking a few times with them,
he was also near the scene of a fight even though we never actually arrested him or had him on cctv [result, ban off dodgy judge]

It's easy police work and with lads not contesting it due to the high amount it will cost they go for the easy life

only one lad has contested it at Boro and won

I go so far as to say its against your human european rights what the cleveland police force is doing

Cost a lot of money to get it to Brussels though and they know it

The bill for the Derby game by 4 police forces must have been in the 100,000 fold

Absolutely disgraceful in my opinion


ps; slipshod - yes the police did know about the Ragbo day,it was the fact we had hired the bairn social club in Aston and the club had to inform the west midlands police force, who then informed our pack of jokers

boroproud Posted on 03/01/2008 14:47
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Instead of these tribute days and raising money for fellow thugs,why not do everyone a favour and the lot of you fook off to some desert island out of the way and let decent people get on with watching football the way it was meant to be!

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 14:50
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20? why not just stay in for the weekend and add 100 weekend spends so then he gets 120X500=60000.


LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 14:54
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Let me educate you boroproud

Hooligans are not born that way

It's the culture that was in Footie in the 60's 70's 80's that turned fans this way

Out of 90 % of the lads i used to regulary travel with up and down the country everyone was a Boro fan and could name the full team, we were Boro fans what came with it was a package that involved societies upbringing at the time

It's been done it's gone now and it's mainly in the past

We have been there seen it and moved on

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 14:57
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why not organise a 30 mile sponsored walk. somethign a bit more civilised then you can collect money from people to sponsor you. then have pub stops along the way. something like saltburn to middlesbrough to yarm..etc

Muttley Posted on 03/01/2008 14:58
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If a bunch of bank robbers informed the police that they intended to make a charity trip to a local cash distribution centre to raise some money for a recently departed ex-scrote but that no attempt would be made to liberate cash from said premises would you expect the police to simply take their word for it?

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 14:59
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There was a walk organised from Nottingham to Derby

But with the old bill cancelling most of the coaches it put paid to it

boroproud Posted on 03/01/2008 15:00
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No excuses Liddle,thugs are thugs,if you cant or rather couldnt handle your animal instints then basically you and your ilk shouldnt have been allowed out alone.
You almost brought the game to its knees back ( not just you obviously) back in the 70's and 80's,thankfully not everyone is some sort of primevil cavedweller and football has been able to drag itself back up to where it belongs.

Rochey Posted on 03/01/2008 15:02
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If they used the money that it cost to have 3 police forces escort Boro lads from Derby to Thornaby/Middlesbrough then there wouldnt need to be a tribute day at all, The Bricks lad would be set up for life.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:02
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If a bunch of bank robbers informed the police that they intended to make a charity trip to a local cash distribution centre to raise some money for a recently departed ex-scrote but that no attempt would be made to liberate cash from said premises would you expect the police to simply take their word for it?


WHY NOT


They took cheif inspector Adrian Robertsons word for it, when he said he could not remember who was driving his car when caught for speeding

You try it and see where you get

He got himself a promotion, and after all that cash for guns shyte eh

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:02
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But as most of these lads don't got to games anymore you can do the walk on a non match day or when boro are playign away but keep the walk local

Critical_Bill Posted on 03/01/2008 15:04
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Wasn't he the copper with th early 1900's style moustache?

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:07
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No excuses Liddle,thugs are thugs,if you cant or rather couldnt handle your animal instints then basically you and your ilk shouldnt have been allowed out alone.
You almost brought the game to its knees back ( not just you obviously) back in the 70's and 80's,thankfully not everyone is some sort of primevil cavedweller and football has been able to drag itself back up to where it belongs.




You obviously were not in Rome then Boroproud ?

In the 60's and 70's you might have got a good shoeing at the worst

You used to go to the pub on saturday night and laff about it

The disease is far worse in Europe,we have cleaned it up

The Bottom line was they was never going to be trouble but it was the Cleveland polices way of saying were in charge and don't you forget it

Probably still mythed about not getting their payrise backdated

Oh how i Laffed [:D]

Peachy Posted on 03/01/2008 15:07
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boroproud - I remember the 70's as a kid I travelled mainly in the car with my dad and uncle. At Orient we were coming out the ground when at least thirty west ham blokes walked right up to us and started indiscriminantly having it. We were saved by other boro lads - they were what you would call the hooligans of the 70's. Ernie Ragbo was one of them and I've heard a very similar story about the brick at Man city.

Muttley Posted on 03/01/2008 15:09
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Liddle fought the law, and the law won.

You sound very bitter.

You see, most of us didn't think it big or clever to go round kicking seven shades of S*** out of other people. Fine that was your bag, but now you just come across all Joey Barton's tears - crying and whingeing at a self inflicted situation and asking us to feel sympathy for you. When we spent most of the 1980s trying to stay well away from you and your ilk.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:09
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Wasn't he the copper with th early 1900's style moustache?




Certainly is Bill

Took over from mallon i believe

Could not lay straight in bed [FACT]

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:11
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peachy, but without any hooligans we wouldnt need self appointed hooligans to protect us. Frontline were part of the problem just like ones at other clubs. The fact is the hooligans made goign to the game dangerous and families would not go to games. By the majority hooligans were not welcome

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:11
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My heart bleeds for you Muttley

And my sides Ache [:D]

I'm pushing 45 now and left that all behind

Instead of fighting in Pubs now I would rather stop em

Muttley Posted on 03/01/2008 15:13
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And mine for you Liddle, tell someone who gives a F*** [:D]

Holgateoldskool Posted on 03/01/2008 15:18
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Did any of these guys kick off in Derby or Nottingham?Can't say I heard if they did.Surely if it swelled the number of Boro fans attending, added to the vocal support - where's the problem??

Seems we appear to have a lot of self- rightous types on here who wish to condemn guys from events that happened years ago.

If this was the biggest problem MFC had then wouldn't we be the lucky ones !!!

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:19
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why don't they swell the home crowds then atleast the ticket money goes to mfc..hang on they probably dont go to the games anymore

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:19
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Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone [:D]

captain5 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:20
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That's fair enough holgate, but it's the only time in recent years I've been told exactly where I could and could not go to and rounded up and photographed by police just because I was travelling to a game of football.


Peachy Posted on 03/01/2008 15:20
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I'm not one to be judgemental. Dozens of times we were attacked away from home - boro were never an agressive set of fans but they would look after themselves if it came on top. Ex hooligan of the 70's is currently very high up behind the scenes at Boro. Now it's pathetic but as I pointed out seeing my old man lashing out made me realise at away grounds in the 70's and early 80's you had to be able to look after yourself or you shouldn't have been travelling.

Holgateoldskool Posted on 03/01/2008 15:24
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Fair point, Captain.

Critical_Bill Posted on 03/01/2008 15:26
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Being rounded up and herded by the coppers happened loads of times in the late 80's.
If you travel by train, there's always the likelihood of a reception committee if you can spit from the station to the stadium.

captain5 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:26
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It's like being saved from a criminal with a gun by another criminal with a gun, who both only have those guns because the other has theirs.

Why should I be thankful??

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:30
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You not like getting sectioned 60 Captain [:D]

You must look a right Meathead [:D]


It's happening to fans all over the country

The old bill are hoodwinking all the courts and judges saying it needs doing

It's absolute bullshyte

They wanna do some proper policing and get out there and stop people knifing each other to death and shooting each other

The Old footie hooligan is a softer and easier target,believe me

Borocelt Posted on 03/01/2008 15:34
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Why do you think most of us give a S***t liddle?

You need to stop cracking off to Football Factory and grow the fuhck up. Acting the hard man on an internet message board, the one in on all the "hoolie" gossip. Who gives a crap? I for one couldn't care less. Real hardmen don't rattle on like you do. You're a pathetic hanger on and a no mark, and we're really not interested in what you have to say.

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:37
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For those who were nor around in the 80's, you will have very liitle idea what Liddle is saying. This was an era when most young lads went to the match to watch the football but to also meet other rival fans ie.chelsea, newcastle, hull, arsenal, everton, millwall to name but a few. some planned, some not it was just a scene. You can view this however you so wish, right or wrongly most of the lads I know who were involved in this are now married, have grown up and FV has finished. A lot of clubs in the 80's had a firm if you want to call it this, and fancied a bit of aggro with rival clubs. I am not condoing it, this was just an era that we grew up in.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:38
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So why are you so enthralled with my thread's ?

God know's your alway's in on them

You don't work for the football intelligence do you Borocelt ? [:D]

If you don't like

Don't read

Simple innit my Old Firm Chum


ps-mm 40, well versed mate, at least someone with honest opinions and answers

It happened, wrongly or rightly

Bit like chavs now killing people for the fun of it- which in my eyes is a shocking crime

Rochey Posted on 03/01/2008 15:40
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Big Jock Knew [;)]

Borocelt Posted on 03/01/2008 15:40
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I sincerely doubt the police even waste their time reading your threads liddle, they like the rest of us know fine well it's a waste of time.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 15:43
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He certainly did Rochey

And as much as i admire the Man for his work in football

It does not disguise the fact that more kids got hurt a long way down the line because he never acted on what he knew

He was protecting the Club,which in my eyes is wrong

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:45
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I would also just add that trying to raise money for Debricks young son was a good effort and one that should have been allowed to go ahead without the police invasion which was a waste of taxpayers money and totaly unecessary.. No one went to Derby to cause any trouble, people wanted to help raise some money and for me that should have been allowed to happen . We all make mistakes in life but Debrick was always ok with me, and his son deserves every bit of help. I hope the next event goes ahead and something can be done to help the young lad.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 15:47
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That's rubbish, mm40. It was always a few morons, the club's knuckle draggers, that caused any bother, and very few of them. Most young blokes went to watch the match and have a bit of craic with their mates. They then had to endure two sets of half wits who would pick on the easy targets of the other club.

There's a lot of mythology flying about. The blokes involved back then, like now, aren't worth a light. The hard fellas don't play soldiers at football matches and brag about it on message boards.

Critical_Bill Posted on 03/01/2008 15:49
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LIDDLe, do you reckon many would turn up if you had a tribute day?

Borocelt Posted on 03/01/2008 15:50
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Big Jock certainly did know how to win the european cup.

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:53
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No one is bragging about it, I totally disagree with your comments about the lads who were involved in it are not

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 15:54
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Sorry try again -
No one is bragging about it, I totally disagree with your comments about the lads who were involved in it are not "worth a light" as you put it. I happen to have some very good friends from the 80's and who have now grown up a bit and moved on .
Like I said in my post people made mistakes and its very easy to sit behind a keyboard and be judgmental.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 16:01
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They were bullies. Nothing more or less. They didn't distinguish between other numpties and the blokes that just went for the game, that's something that came about much later. They hit out at the first fans they came across.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:04
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IN THE 60'S AND 70'S MAYBE CORGAIGH

BUT IN THE 80'S WHEN THE CAUALS BEGAN WE LOOKED FOR LIKE MINDED PEOPLE, AND THATS A FACT

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 16:05
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Corcaigh - from that comment I will guess you were not around then because that did not happen.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 16:05
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the only way these sort of people know how to solve a problem is with violence.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 16:11
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I was around when it kicked off in the late 60's and was still travelling with a few of them until a few years ago. There's too many lies surrounding it all, mythology that's been invented to make the hooligans out to be brave. They weren't, they picked on the easy targets, didn't organise like they do now, and the meetings between rival clubs were few and far between. Blokes were punched and their scarfs pinched was what happened at the start, it went on to fans getting a kicking for supporting the wrong team, in the end fans were dying.

Don't give me this rubbish about not being there.

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 16:12
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Its like having your old school teachers around sometimes on this board [:D]

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:13
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Hey sasboro - violence breeds violence

My old man used to knock 7 bells out of me [:D]

Never done me no harm

prepman Posted on 03/01/2008 16:14
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mm40,your definately wrong there mate.believe me.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 16:14
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Greek mythology?

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:15
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That's right mm 40

Tree huggers,do gooders and the politically correct rear their ugly head's

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 16:18
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We were there Liddle, just like you and the lads from Boro were, but we're not frightened to tell the truth about it. You're trying to glorify a spot of Saturday afternoon bullying.

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 16:26
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Corcaigh - it never happened like you said in the 80's try reading some of the books that have been written like debricks and others by everton, icf, yids. No one talks about bullying and picking on defence less fans, it was about 2 sets of rival fans who were interested in other matters outside of the match.

Muttley Posted on 03/01/2008 16:27
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I'm a little older than Liddle and Corcaigh is absolutely right, violence in the 80s was NOT some sort of semi-chivalrous, unwritten rules, happy fisticuffs, romp that revisionists would like to have you believe. Innocent bystanders were not only accidentally hurt but deliberately targetted I was there I saw it and I experienced it. I'm thankful it has now gone.

It does make me chuckle when Liddle comes on here whingeing about the police "breaching their civil liberties", bless him. [:D]

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:28
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I'm going to be honest with you here, i never seen any bullying in my time going with the casuals

If you picked on someone in ones and two's you were told to leave it

Not saying 50 on to 30 never happened but if they were up for it so be it, it's like the slashings we never ever carried blades like the C****neys and scousers coz we hated that, but sadly one day a few of our young lot were guilt outside the welly against Barnsley- well out of order

Only time i ever seen any bullying and it was quite funny was seeing scousers getting out of the train station escorts on the way to the ground to go robbing in the shops,so they thought

a few old ntp lads used to collar em in dundas arcade and take their trainers of em, the scally bastads [:D]

What they could do we could do better

came to Boro to rob, and went home with a few slaps and trainerless - might be classed as bullying but classic days never to be repeated

Muttley Posted on 03/01/2008 16:28
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mm40 - who are those books written by?

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 16:30
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I'm sure the books are written to glamourise it and only tell one side of the story. Otherwise no one would by the books. Do theses hooligans spare a thought for teh innocent victims caught up in all this over the years. If they want to fight like men then why not do something useful and join the army and do it for real

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:41
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Football is only something that attaches it's name to it

It's all about defending territory,going back as far as the cave men

I've posted on this subject before like a dog marking his manor or a lion doing the same with his scent

I f a coach of Newcastle lads came to boro for a night out on saturday night and got lairy,they would be big trouble - it's as simple as that

Football was a place where people got together regurlary and was used as a way of getting frustrations and working problems during the week of yer chest

It was an outlet for many people years back

people move on, i've got other hobbies now

Borocelt Posted on 03/01/2008 16:47
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"Tree huggers,do gooders and the politically correct rear their ugly head's"

Yet you're sat whinging about civil liberties and EU human rights. If it wasn't for the "do-gooders" you so hate you wouldn't have these rights, you thick get.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:49
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Now then Sponge head [:D]

I'm running for Mayor as well next year

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 16:50
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Lidl,

What the

fuq is a

3 egger?

Muttley Posted on 03/01/2008 16:51
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Irony is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is a gap or incongruity between what a speaker or a writer says and what is generally understood (either at the time, or in the later context of history). Irony may also arise from a discordance between acts and results, especially if it is striking, and seen by an outside audience. Irony is understood as an aesthetic evaluation by an audience, which relies on a sharp discordance between the real and the ideal, and which is variously applied to texts, speech, events, acts, and even fashion. All the different senses of irony revolve around the perceived notion of an incongruity, or a gap between an understanding of reality, or expectation of a reality, and what actually happens.

In case you wondered

onthemap Posted on 03/01/2008 16:53
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Tell me whether you'd be still be all for raising money if your daughter was the one hit in the eye with a dart that day we played Arsenal?

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:53
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It's an old saying when you were a kid

you know when you used to go hunting bird's nest's years back

Well if there was a kid you never trusted,you know like a squealer or a Rat [:D]

you'd say i wouldn't tell him where there was a 3 egger [:D]

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 16:54
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BUT

WHAT IS

A 3-

EGGER,

MUTTLEY?

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 16:55
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Phew,

now I'm

ITK

[;)]

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/01/2008 16:56
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Some of the lads I saw at Derby were morons, people who went to my school a few years younger who now have skinheads but couldn't punch their way out of a paper bag. They must think they're trendy but they're an embarassment.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 16:56
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Tell me whether you'd be still be all for raising money if your daughter was the one hit in the eye with a dart that day we played Arsenal?




That's a low blow Mappy

not relevent to this thread i don't think

All football hooligans were fair game

it's like wars now,innocent people still get hurt

do i think it's right - No

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 16:58
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Just let it go, Lisbo.

At least you've got a better job than them.

Peachy Posted on 03/01/2008 16:58
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Liddle - I saw bullying against Boro and I saw it at Ayresome Park. I saw Newcastle fans ( ordinary ) getting hammered on Clive Road in the early 80's. I remember the old NTP when the makems were in town anyone was fair game. Just teling it as it was back then.

Critical_Bill Posted on 03/01/2008 16:58
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Lisbon, I saw quite a few who looked as if they were going to a 'Bad Tattoo convention' rather than a football match.

mm40 Posted on 03/01/2008 16:59
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onthemap - the only people who would help are debricks friends and at the end of the day its their choice to help out an old mate, I said before its easy been judgemental paul had moved on with his life, was working and had a young lad.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/01/2008 17:03
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Were you one of them Gill?

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 17:05
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Younger than you?

You sweet talking charmer [;)]

axel1974 Posted on 03/01/2008 17:06
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when is the gary glitter tribute day?

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 17:06
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Younger than you?

You sweet talking charmer [;)]

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 17:06
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Younger than you?

You sweet talking charmer [;)]

captain5 Posted on 03/01/2008 17:06
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Just like to congratulate Liddle on keeping these plans so secret.

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 17:08
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3 times a lady.

CAPN,

HE AINT

NO ALFIE

BASS [;)]

shaun_84 Posted on 03/01/2008 17:08
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hi captain please whistle the bad boys a tune from your flute !

Space_Face Posted on 03/01/2008 17:09
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Thuggery or decency. Shouldn't be a difficult choice.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/01/2008 17:11
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Alright Gill, don't milk it.[:)]

shaun_84 Posted on 03/01/2008 17:11
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brought the best away/support/atmosphere to a Boro away game this year these thugs ... says a lot about you sterile ra-ra get along gang supporters

GillZean Posted on 03/01/2008 17:13
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3 compliments in a day LL.

Bet you haven't had that many since you passed your Cycling Proficiency badge.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/01/2008 17:20
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It was my AQUAPACK actually.

hogg1234 Posted on 03/01/2008 18:27
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Liddle, the thing that went wrong was too many people talking about things and as it was related to Paul people assume it means violence so the less said on this board the better. The word will get out anyway as it always does but on a board meant for football fans there is always someone who has either read the book or heard the urban legends and start to slag Paul off. This then gets all sorts of idiots coming on saying how all hell is being planned and the rest is history.(I don't mean the regular posters, more like young idiots)
It happened just before the funeral police vans driving past the church full of coppers all staring at the moaners, again partly because gobshi.tes saying he would want to go out with a bang!!! Well I don't think so, all that was behind him but a lot who as I said only know the fiction they glorify the violence!!!!
Most insensitive bit of police tactics I have ever seen by the way and I'm not anti-police.

onthemap Posted on 03/01/2008 18:31
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I don't think the dart comment was a low blow Liddle, it happened and the hooligans at the time, thought it funny seeing youngsters carried out of Ayresome with darts stuck in their faces.

It wasn't just punch ups between consenting thugs, it was darts lodged in the corners of eyes, coins hurled at old men and women and having pint glasses pushed into your face for wearing the wrong scarf.

Nothing remotely nostalgic about it at all

jam69 Posted on 03/01/2008 18:34
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why have a tribute day at a football match for a man who had no interest in football?never knew the bloke,other than the time he knocked seven bells of shyte out of a friend of mine whilst he worked on the door of wickers world.for the record my mates only crime was wrong place wrong time.

axel1974 Posted on 03/01/2008 18:40
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people who fight at football matches would be best placed in a zoo

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 18:48
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Hey jam69 - you sure your mate wasn't talking when he should have been listening ?

Never seen Paul bully anyone on the door at Gilz,The Welly,Whickers World or the Madhouse

These pi$$ed up F*****s always say i did nowt the next day

bblf Posted on 03/01/2008 18:52
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I followed the Boro all over the country during the times there was always trouble. The people who revelled in it were an embarrasment and caused trouble for people who had no interest in fighting at games. They would stir it up and normal every day supporters would end up involved to ensure their own safety.
Makes me laugh that the "charity " angle is being used as the thugs who used to follow us were adept at ripping charity boxes off in pubs and service stations all over the country.


jam69 Posted on 03/01/2008 18:54
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he had done nothing,we were walking out of the pub,think they had been trouble up stairs so he decided to lamp my mate,not a word said,like i said earlier didnt really know him that well but what ive written there is the truth.

axel1974 Posted on 03/01/2008 18:55
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i think you hit the nail on the head there bblf.
these people have nothing to do with football and everything to do with just wanting a scrap for the sake of it.
makes you wonder why there energies were not directed towards something a bit more constructive

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 18:58
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That's bollox bblf charity boxes getting stole

your out of order pal


seen one armed bandits getting done plenty of times yeah and sports shops getting robbed and jewellers

but charity boxes never !!!!! coz if we seen anyone doing that they would get a caning

remember being in the blind beggar in 80's before the Millwall game, Storky Young emptied the bandit with a coat hanger, the bloke who owned the pub was not bothered as the 100 lads in there had spent a fortune on drink [:D]

number4 Posted on 03/01/2008 19:03
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when you've all come down from your moralistic high horses you will realise that all that's going on is a group of people who used to know each other socially are trying to raise money for the benefit of the family of one of their pals who died too young. to be commended not condemned.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 19:05
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100 per cent correct no 4

bblf Posted on 03/01/2008 19:11
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I was in a Pub just outside Derby 3 coaches including a BBC one all in 2 pubs going backwards and forwards. When we left we were all pulled over by the Police. 3 charity boxes nicked and a 4 ft Teddy that was the prize in a raffle for a cancer research .

I was on the front of the coach and assured the Police that no one in the pubs following the Boro would do such a thing. They insisted on searching the buses.
The Police found (on the floor of course) 3 charity boxes and a 4 ft teddy. The police looked at us all like we were scum and I couldn't blame them.That wasn't a one off.

Ive seen "Boro" supporters throw Darts, throw fire buckets off the upper stands onto people below, Ive seen someone Stanley knived down their back and the perpetrator leg it before he knew it had happened. Ive seen people beaten and their money taken. Hooligans and thugs of who people say "he was a good lad really". Nah just hooigans and thugs.
I know the opposition had the same type of people following them but I hated them as well.

axel1974 Posted on 03/01/2008 19:19
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i couldn't agree more bblf..... these idiots have nothing whatsoever to do with football.

rivals_oldschool Posted on 03/01/2008 19:22
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Wasn't this a bloke who professed in his own book he had little, if no affiliation with MFC, so why on earth is his "tribute" (laughs) day on the back of a Boro game?

Go to the circus or something instead?

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 19:36
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How do you know it's been arranged for st james park ? [:D]

zaputa Posted on 03/01/2008 20:09
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It comes across that there's a right tool on this thread.

Must know who he is, probably can't resist making the next post [:D]

HolgateEnd Posted on 03/01/2008 20:19
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Sas - "why don't they swell the home crowds then atleast the ticket money goes to mfc..hang on they probably dont go to the games anymore" - cos until a few weeks ago mate, they were all banned!!! Lift the banning orders, and a lot of them would go to the match!

Borocelt - "we're really not interested in what you have to say." - if thats the case, why take the time to reply, numerous times. If you really dont care, just ignore the thread. And as this is now a 120+ thread, I'd say there are plenty that 'care'.

As for the rest, so fooking what if two like-minded groups of lads want to get together for a ruck. There isnt really any difference between that and boxing. Boxing is just two blokes who want to get in the ring a knock each other out for no apparent reason. The only difference is that one is called a sport where the fighters get paid thousands or millions for the fight, where as football lads get arrested and jailed for longer than a kiddie fiddler with several repeat offences would.

As long as they're not affecting you when you go to the match, who cares?

As for swelling the crowds, they do. Havent you noticed that whenever a row is on the cards theres a bigger crowd? Newcastle and Sunderland obviously, and over the last few years Man U and particularly Spurs (I might be wrong but the season after our lads went down there and Boro won 3-0, it was our biggest (or one of) attendance of the season. And there is no way that we'd have taken 2500 to Derby a few weeks ago if it wasnt for them.

And for the record I am not, never have been, and never will be a hooligan. Just my opinions on the matter.

zaputa Posted on 03/01/2008 20:32
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Hang on make that two [:D]

bblf Posted on 03/01/2008 20:41
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Holgate Ender--- If you think its like boxing you have been hit on the head too often

I take my wife and son and nephew to away games. most of the time they go off without incident. When the nutters decide its time to fight can you imagine what its like for families and people like me trying to get them away from the trouble. Its bloody terrifying and thats for an adult never mind 2 kids and a women.
We dont need people like that at the games , they are a baine on football and the more banned the better.

LIDDLE_TOWERS Posted on 03/01/2008 20:47
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bblf = Drama Queen


When was the last time it went off in the ground or outside the ground

It doesn't happen at boro no more

Happens in the lower leagues though and europe


Your making a mountain out of a mole hill gadge

Tek up Badminton if it worries you that much

zaputa Posted on 03/01/2008 20:52
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Told ya [:D]

shaun_84 Posted on 03/01/2008 20:54
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Like it or lump it folks ' Boro Frontline ' is etched in Boro history it happened it took place. Now just like when one of you do-gooders pass away your pompous mates will do the the same for you in some format.

The only difference will be the numbers ,you probably only warrant one coach!!! says it all really.

Boro Frontline feared by many

Respected by all !

sasboro1 Posted on 03/01/2008 20:55
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Only respected by fellow hooligans. the majority of football boro fans had no respect for them.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 20:56
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And laughed at by most. Half witted knuckle draggers.

HolgateEnd Posted on 03/01/2008 20:57
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bblf, as i mentioned in my post, i was talking about when "two like-minded groups of lads" want to fight, not when one set of lads attacks innocent men/women/kids.


shaun_84 Posted on 03/01/2008 21:06
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Sas and c.o.cat you'll never admit to this but at the time the Frontline were looked by the Ra-Ra as a form of 'Guardian Angels' to them on away days.

HolgateEnd Posted on 03/01/2008 21:09
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Of course they wont admit to it - cos they werent there. They only started to go to the match in 96 when we signed Juninho.

Eh lads.... [;)]

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 21:15
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Shaun, you may be right there. Imbeciles from both sides of the spectrum.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 21:19
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The problem was, when it kicked off, the Frontline would be miles away throwing bricks through Asian shop windows and chasing women in Sari's down the street.

jam69 Posted on 03/01/2008 21:22
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how old are you shaun?

shaun_84 Posted on 03/01/2008 21:30
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37

Beligerent_Bob_the_foulmouth_yob Posted on 03/01/2008 21:30
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Bob says, hooligans are secret drag queens.

hogg1234 Posted on 03/01/2008 21:38
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Wrong board for this thread! Too wide an audience and it shows why the police acted as they did at Derby(They believe it still is as it was!). It's not like it used to be but you will always be tarred with that brush. Paul will be laughing like f.uck now at all this sh.ite!

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/01/2008 21:42
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Some of us have been laughing at it for 35 years.

Beligerent_Bob_the_foulmouth_yob Posted on 03/01/2008 22:24
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Bob says, hooligans become erect at the thought of violence leading to secret homosexual love ins