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Knightmare Posted on 13/05/2008 12:39
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MFC recently sacked one of the stewards of being an active member of the racist and Nazi British National Party. Said man was relieved of his duties having stood in the march by election as the BNP candidate.

The so called members of the master race are now planning a protest march to be held this Thursday. However having been banned from the clubs ground they are holding there protest outside of the Navigation pub before being safely escorted to the ground by the police to hand in the petition demanding that a foul abnoixous and xenophobic racist be re-instated in a job at our football club.

Well done to MFC for disposing of this pathetic racist.

¡No Pasarán!




Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 12:42
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I'm no fan of the BNP in fact if this is who I think it is I have argued with him about their policy, but your post is complete S***e.

rob_fmttm Posted on 13/05/2008 12:42
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Well done indeed MFC.

boroandproud2 Posted on 13/05/2008 12:43
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The man is entitled to his political beliefs in the "democracy" we live in. Do you know this man personally?. If not you are being racist yourself in naming him a racist.

Midosparmo Posted on 13/05/2008 12:44
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Stewards are alright acting like nazis as long as they dont subscribe to the party!

Buddy2 Posted on 13/05/2008 12:45
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Fully support your views on the pathetic nature of said racist Knightmare, but I would point out that you did forget to put what time the protest starts.

rob_fmttm Posted on 13/05/2008 12:47
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He was a recent candidate for a council ward in Middlesbrough I read his details and he was proud that he was a steward at MFC.

He was dismissed shortly after this became known to MFC. Don't know if the two things are definitely connected but seeing as Boro are signed up to anti-racists charters etc then it would probably be impossible to do his job.


Knightmare Posted on 13/05/2008 12:48
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well, i was in two minds.

If people were to organise some sort of counter protest then fair enough, but i would hate to further publicise this event.


borolad259 Posted on 13/05/2008 12:48
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It's what the "Kick It Out" campaign is all about. There's no place for racism on the terraces, even/especially if you are a steward. The BNP are inherently racist (even if many BNP members will start sentences with "I'm not a racist, but....").

rob_fmttm Posted on 13/05/2008 12:49
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Good point Knightmare.

Starve them of the oxygen of publicity etc.

Buddy2 Posted on 13/05/2008 12:50
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Fully agree. Personally I would have gone further and thought twice about actually starting a thread about it.

Knightmare Posted on 13/05/2008 12:52
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exactly, its fairly publicised on various white power websites anyway. I expect a poor turn out from the fash.

Its a shame we can moblise anything to counter this and make them sure in no uncertain terms that they have no place at our football club.

JigSaw Posted on 13/05/2008 12:52
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Well done Gibson.

Uncle_harry Posted on 13/05/2008 12:52
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A club who are prepared to back up their anti-racist statements with action - Up the Boro

Knightmare Posted on 13/05/2008 12:53
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fair point buddy, in which case if deemed nessacary rob can you remove this thread.

Borocelt Posted on 13/05/2008 12:57
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Good work Boro.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 13/05/2008 12:57
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I'm actually quite proud the club has took the action they have.

Well done.

sasboro1 Posted on 13/05/2008 12:59
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no one will see them outside the navigation anyway. who goes down there apart from a match day?

King_Ricard Posted on 13/05/2008 13:00
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well exactly, is it even open on a non match day?

plus what do the owners of the navi think of having these people on there land?

woodymfc Posted on 13/05/2008 13:00
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One world = One future

Bernie_was_right Posted on 13/05/2008 13:06
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I`m afraid i don`t see what this guys done wrong. Since when did your Political views affect being a football ground steward? As long as he hasn`t broken the law, i don`t see why he should be sacked.

Would the guy have been sacked if he were a member of any other extreme political Party? The communists, or Galloway`s Respect party for example? Or are there double standards at play here?


burydweller Posted on 13/05/2008 13:08
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Although not a BNP sympathizer, the lettuce munchers on the board are missing the point. It is a democracy, and if a fellow wants to join a legitimate political party then so be it. We all know what the BNP elludes too, however, they are becoming popular, because a weak and vacuous government dare not tackle immigration and self imposed segragation by many of our British Asain communities.

We do not live in multi culturalism, we live in seperate divided cultures, it needs tackling. Try living in Bradfords British Asain community for 5 years before you throw an alfalfa sprout and chickpea wholemeal pitta at me

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 13/05/2008 13:08
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The BNP are a legitimate political party, like it or not. It'll be interesting to see the legal outcome, assuming they'll take it to a tribunal.

*revised*

sasboro1 Posted on 13/05/2008 13:10
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King_Ricard, will be interesting to see if the pub opens up for them.

woodymfc Posted on 13/05/2008 13:10
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Racism sucks in any household, end of thread

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 13/05/2008 13:10
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The communist party doesnt have a manifesto of hate though.

How is he meant to do his job of stewarding a cross section of the public properly, when he probably feels hatred towards some of the fans simply because of their ethnic origin.

Besides if he is a member of the BNP he's probably too stupid to do a decent job of stewarding.

rob_fmttm Posted on 13/05/2008 13:12
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I don't know what basis Boro employ stewards on - is it match by match etc? Also I haven't heard them comment on why the steward was dismissed either.



zoec Posted on 13/05/2008 13:12
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If your extra-curricula activities have a direct conflict with the job you do and means that you can't carry out your role effectively, then your employer has a perfect right to dismiss you.

Btw, I don't really understand the link between health food and anti-racism in burydweller's post. Maybe it's just me.

Pauluka Posted on 13/05/2008 13:14
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He will win in a tribunal. The end of the day they hold seats now wether you like it or not

Decent_Left Posted on 13/05/2008 13:14
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Swampdweller. Any member of the F***wit National Party, clearly signs up to their articles which include discriminatory references.

MFC have an employment charter which includes anti-discriminatory articles. The two don't gell, you are either for one or the other.

He had to go.

Good.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 13:14
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"I read his details and he was proud that he was a steward at MFC.

He was dismissed shortly after this became known to MFC."

Sounds like you did an Alfie Bass on him.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 13/05/2008 13:14
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How could he do his job if thats his attitude?

Could you trust him to clamp down on racist chants etc?

captain5 Posted on 13/05/2008 13:15
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If he's anything like his brother who posts on here, I'm not surprised that the club have got rid of him.

Kilburn Posted on 13/05/2008 13:18
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The difference is that he has decided to stand for election for a political party that has a main policy that is directly opposed to one the rules he is supposed to enforce as a steward.

It is the same as if someone whose job was to promote EU integration were to decide to stand for election for UKIP - it makes their postion untenable.

rob_fmttm Posted on 13/05/2008 13:21
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Drago he lost his job at the football club before the election and before I knew anything about him whatsoever. Just saw it in a shop near where I work.

Piggy Posted on 13/05/2008 13:21
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I cant help but think that there must be more effective ways of protesting against something than goosestepping up a deserted road, during midweek, to a stadium where everyone has knocked off for the summer.

All we need now is a spot of rain.


captain5 Posted on 13/05/2008 13:23
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It was well advertised in the local media as well as on the party's website who he is and him being a Boro steward.

I don't think anyone would have to be grassing him up.


Decent_Left Posted on 13/05/2008 13:23
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Drago

If it had been Rob that grassed up a racist B****** who happened to work for MFC what would the problem have been.

I would expect any moral person to have done the same, so three cheers for the person who did grass the fascist T*** up.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 13:35
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Isn't fascism more the hypocrisy you're a part of? He like you stupidly believes his ways are the only ways. You're just as radical and just as dangerous as he is.

BTW was it a young lad from Eston? If so I have spoken to him, he's a an school friend of a friend... whether we like it or not, he's a bright lad he's grown up on a rough estate and he is angry and needs somebody to blame. It's the same in the most deprived areas throughout the country, they have it tough.

Anyway F*** him, Scones anyone?

Decent_Left Posted on 13/05/2008 13:39
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You cheeky C***.

At what point does any of my belief impinge on the freedom and rights of others other than those that would not allow them for me?

Total F***wit nonsence from you as usual. Mind you don't choke on a scone crumb, that would be awful.

The_same_as_before Posted on 13/05/2008 13:39
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All seems a bit sinister to me. The reality in law he has done nothing wrong.


The decision is wrong, but well done MFC all the same.

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 13:40
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Is it illegal to be a member of the BNP ? Or is this sacking based on the clubs own moral viewpoint ?

To be quite frank, the way the country has been dragged under by the government's blunders over the last 15 years, there's not much out there who I would cast my vote for. Huge mistakes have been made in immigration, and this is bringing an overwhelming feeling of national loss to many British people.

The_same_as_before Posted on 13/05/2008 13:41
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Hang on Ned, I normally fully agree with you, but people in glass houses.

Duncan_Blackheart Posted on 13/05/2008 13:43
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I would have thought the club could get rid of him if it is proved he was an employee with under a year's service, or, alternatively, that mentioning his employment with MFC in connection with his BNP position brought his employers into disrepute and accordingly his dismissal would be one of gross misconduct. Maybe!

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 13:43
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It being illegal is something that people have considered in a few posts on this thread. I'll make it pretty clear then, it doesn't have to be illegal for you to lose your job over it. People get sacked every day for things which aren't illegal.

He'll have been sacked for bring the company into disrepute which is a fairly standard way of doing things. A girl I used to work with got sacked for the same thing for getting into a slanging match with another girl who worked there on a non-work night out. Nothing illegal there.

Remember, had the club just decided to do nothing it would have severely damaged the club's reputation had that come out, especially with their stance on racism.

ferencpuskas Posted on 13/05/2008 13:44
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If it's the same lad you're talking about capio, he was in my politics class at college. He's not bright, he's a racist idiot.

Buddy2 Posted on 13/05/2008 13:44
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Ah, but that's "emigration" not "immigration" you see TSAB. Same as the legions of "any more Poles and I'm moving to Spain" headcases.

Duncan_Blackheart Posted on 13/05/2008 13:45
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too slow mallinator! excellent point though.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 13:45
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Now now Timothy, I think you'll find you're contradicting yourself with your views towards the BNP and your freedom of speech gobblygook. I find your name offensive in itself as you staunchly believe that your views are 'more decent' than any others when in fact they're not, they're book read nonsense from an era that has long gone.

Get out – see the world stop chastising everybody from your 5 bedroom House in Wynyard, go for a drive in your 4x4 in your socks and sandles.

zoec Posted on 13/05/2008 13:46
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There's a legal precedent.
Edit: damn, wrong link - won't let me post the right one.


Link: ........

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 13:46
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"too slow mallinator!"

[;)]

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 13:47
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Many thanks to Mailinator for "making it pretty clear" ... pfft !!

The same as before, i got out to make room for more Poles.

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 13:49
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Well you said "it isn't illegal" and I said it doesn't matter. That's about as clear as it gets.


Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 13:50
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I can't decide who I'd like to slap more the BNP members or people like decent left.

Probably decent left cos the bnp members will be well ard.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 13:50
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I can't decide who I'd like to slap more the BNP members or people like decent left.

Probably decent left cos the bnp members will be well ard.

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 13:51
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I said, "Is it illegal to be a member of the BNP" ?

Not, "It is illegal"


mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 13:52
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Some of those BNP members are ultra-skinny. Usually sporting a 'tache that only a 12 year old could grow. I remember a programme a few months back in which Russell Brand managed to intimidate a couple of them.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 13:52
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The Polish men should get out to make more room for Polish women.

A night out in Middlesbrough's a totak C**** fest these days must be 8 men for every woman.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 13:53
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In that case I'll slap them both.

ferencpuskas Posted on 13/05/2008 13:53
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Lefties are 'ard. They all work manual jobs on minimum wage don't they?

MarlonD Posted on 13/05/2008 13:55
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Drago, stop going to bar's that Bill 'recommends'


mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 13:55
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"I said, "Is it illegal to be a member of the BNP" ?

Not, "It is illegal""

Fair enough, but I wasn't just referring to you when I made the point that it is not relevant as a few people have questioned if it is illegal on this thread.

nibz Posted on 13/05/2008 13:57
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VOTE BNP


NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 13:58
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Apologies, I don't know the latest on British politics, and I saw a post that stated so many people in London had voted BNP.

I was more thinking along the lines of how can you sack someone for their political views ?

parmo_pete Posted on 13/05/2008 13:58
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DON'T VOTE BNP

Decent_Left Posted on 13/05/2008 13:59
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Hey Drago you F***wit, the term Decent alongside Left reflects a position in a political argument thats got F*** all to do with you you pompous prick.

What a massively over inflated opinion you have of your worldly knowledge, when you clearly can't even follow the logic of a very clear explanatory sentence explaining the distance between my philosophy and that of the BNP.

Edit... And as as regards to yourt follow up regarding dishing out slaps - seriously?

As too your tiresome expert opinion of all things not Teesside, I'd put my 5 continents worth of travel and business against your couple of war profiteering trips to devastated 2nd World Balkan backwaters.

Uncle_harry Posted on 13/05/2008 14:00
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I DON'T THINK I WILL IF IT'S ALL THE SAME TO YOU BUT THANKS FOR THE ADVICE

Mavrick Posted on 13/05/2008 14:01
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Knightmare i cant help but think that this guy has a very strong case for unfair dismissal. The BNP policies have in the past shown that they are racist but that has been hyped up alot by the media and as we all know a bad reputation is very hard to get rid of.

Today the BNP actually support ethnic groups heres a few to name:

Watford Asian Community care
Watford African Caribbean Association
National Black Police Association
Metropolitan Black Police Association

Their policies are aimed at getting Britain back to been British:

* Restricting the amount of asylum seekers coming into the country as Australia and other countries do. A part of there policy is to put pensioners before asylum seekers.

* Bringing back british independant from Europe by supporting the pound and putting money that goes into the EU back into Britain instead.

That is just to name a few of their aims.

I am not a political person and i dont really care to much for politics but i think MFC have made a huge statement by sacking someone for supporting the BNP. To me it seems a rash decision and unless this guy was imposing his views very strongly and bringing back the streotypical image of the BNP within the work place then i find it hard to understand how he has been sacked for having a option to vote BNP!







Link: policies

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 14:02
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Whooo I'm got a whopper here, must be a shark.

F***ing mug [:D]


Feren [:D] is this who I think it is? Your local bnp chap?

MarlonD Posted on 13/05/2008 14:02
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Decent_Left, the very fact you resort to personal abuse makes your argument virtually invalid.

nibz Posted on 13/05/2008 14:02
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SHIP THE LEFT WING TO AN ISLAND AND CARPET BOMB IT ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 14:04
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That's a good post ^ by Maverick.

Then again, I hope there's also a National White Police Association ...?


Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 14:04
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You've got a point Marlon you big stinking orangutan, I wish I'd stuck with ape it's easier to spell.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 13/05/2008 14:04
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*arrives eating a cress, chickory and chinese leaf salad*

what have I missed?

Uncle_harry Posted on 13/05/2008 14:05
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WHICH ISLAND DID YOU HAVE IN MIND AND WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?!

MarlonD Posted on 13/05/2008 14:05
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Anytime Drago, I'll stick to calling you a chunt. Nice & easy you see.

The_same_as_before Posted on 13/05/2008 14:05
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Ned, if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, it will be a duck.

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 14:06
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I think I'll go and grab a bagel and some coffee.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 14:07
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Captain5 walks a bit like a duck.

Pauluka Posted on 13/05/2008 14:07
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Good thread. Make love not war

Decent_Left Posted on 13/05/2008 14:07
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marlon - You can F*** off an all.

Any T*** tries to align my political belief with any aspect of the fascist racists in the BNP he is going to get some personal abuse.

Kilburn Posted on 13/05/2008 14:08
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Maverick - the BNP are doing their best to mince their words and play down the more sinister side of their policies, but the fact remains that when you look into the details of their recent manifestos, they are still talking about genetic superiority and other Nazi ideals.

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 14:09
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Chill out, Decent !!

Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout
John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary,
Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper,
Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer, Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna
Hare Hare Krishna
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Brick_Tamland Posted on 13/05/2008 14:10
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-

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 14:10
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"Ned, if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, it will be a duck."

Aaah but when you hear hoof-beats, think 'horses', not 'zebras'.





I don't know what I'm talking about.

nibz Posted on 13/05/2008 14:11
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You'll never have peace while we've got religion.

The_same_as_before Posted on 13/05/2008 14:12
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My dad, never swore in his life but used racist language he just did not know it. I have no doubt if he were alive today he would have no quarms about standing infront of the racist right with a gun and sort the problem.

Funniest comment I ever heard him say to a lad with xxxx cut here xxx tattoed round his neck was 'have you a knife?'

Decent people on the whole are decent, these people are not decent people.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 14:12
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Left wingers support fascism, end this terrible intolerance in our society and be a C*** like me, we hate everybody equal!


Link: DECENT LEFT

zoec Posted on 13/05/2008 14:12
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Well, that's obvious trod. It could be cattle.

MarlonD Posted on 13/05/2008 14:12
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D_L - Calm down and give a rational view on the subject and it will make it all the more appealing to the readers of this thread.


captain5 Posted on 13/05/2008 14:13
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Centaurs most probably, zoef.

littlejimmy Posted on 13/05/2008 14:18
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Kinell. Didn't know Stuey Downing supported fascism.

Mavrick Posted on 13/05/2008 14:18
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Kilburn its like i said. Im not a very polictical person and i only take it off face value when it comes to politics cos thats as far as it goes with politicians i think. Labour, conservative, BNP, Lib Dems their all the same to me. Just a bunch of idiots wanting to tell us all how to run our lives!

Im all for supporting the racism out of football image but i cant help but think this guy may have lost his job a little bit unfairly. But i dont know the full details and if Keith Lamb had anything to do with it then im sure MFC will live to see another day [:S]

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 14:18
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"Centaurs most probably, zoef."

See that was an Occam-tastic answer. I'm going to give you credit for that one, cap.

littlejimmy Posted on 13/05/2008 14:20
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Marlon, when has giving a rational view ever made any difference on here?

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 13/05/2008 14:23
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The BNP should be as widely publisized as possible. This is because people are not aware of their policies. In the absence of a votable left wing party people will turn to them as a party looking after the rights of the common man.
fact is they subscribe to eugenics. the superiority and incompatibility of races. this is the basis of the nazi policies on the master race.
The club are more than entitled to sack the man. He supports racist views, nothing to do with political views. They may have policies on immigration etc, which are political standpoints. but policies on banning intermarriage are just plain racist. The club has a duty not to employ racists, especially not in positions of power.
anyone voting for the BNP should be very very ashamed of themselves. make no bones about it you are voting for facists.

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 14:23
FAO FAT JIMMY

A well deserved


Link: shhhhhhhhhhh

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 14:24
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"policies on banning intermarriage are just plain racist."

Is that really true?

Uncle_harry Posted on 13/05/2008 14:26
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if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, it will be a duck....

...OR POSSIBLY A MOOR..hen!

The_same_as_before Posted on 13/05/2008 14:28
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the UH list of ducks?

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 14:28
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Could be a Unicorn ...?

Tony_Drago Posted on 13/05/2008 14:29
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-_- hard to keep up with all these proxies!

red_rebel Posted on 13/05/2008 14:30
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The BNP would purge the Boro team. They would expel the wicked immigrants bringing the club down like Alves, Tuncay, Boateng and Aliadiere. Pogatetz may be alright, very Aryan. Might have to have his blood group tattooed on his shoulder though.


littlejimmy Posted on 13/05/2008 14:30
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Only the last bit of that is true.

Wrong thread, mind.

Revol_Tees Posted on 13/05/2008 14:31
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It's not the young lad this time. But he is responsible for the idiotic 'BNP For Cleveland' blog where this event is publicised. Most of its hits come from anti-fascists who look in for a laugh...

The man in question this time is Barry Towers. He was in the Gazette a few months ago (see below).

This whole thing was planned for a few weeks ago originally -- a march from Albert Park to the Riverside -- but they forgot to seek permission from the authorities (as is the protocol with demos) and only Towers and a couple of mates turned up, draped in a Union Flag, all 3 of em surrounded by about 35 police.

As a friend of mine commented: they want to run the country, yet they couldn't organise a walk through the park.


Link: A bus row takes gloss off Barry’s paint

Uncle_harry Posted on 13/05/2008 14:32
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a moorhen could be a Unicorn?

you're not taking this seriously are you Ned?

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 13/05/2008 14:34
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tony they want everyone who isnt english out of the country.
dont know how they will decide who is english. The nazi's used to use different gradients to decide whether someone was jewish or not. I think anyone up to a quarter jewish would be gassed. less than that and you could probably get away with deportation.

There is a debate to be had about immigration and I often think your super fervant anti-racists (folk like Ken livingstone etc) do as much harm as good. but BNP are just plain nazis. there are plenty of other right wing parties out there who will offer up reasoned debate on imigartion without any Eichman pseudo science attached.

ferencpuskas Posted on 13/05/2008 14:36
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Christ, i'd forgotten about BNP for Cleveland. Gave us many stoned hours of entertainment at college. Genuinely hilarious.

Decent_Left Posted on 13/05/2008 14:37
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Marlon, I can't believe you actually believe what you've written there. When did rational ever work against snidey digs and deliberate untruths on this board.?

Edit - Sorry Little J just spotted your similar response.

karembeu_ca Posted on 13/05/2008 14:38
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let 'em march - all we need are Jake and Elwood Blues and it's sorted.

Lefty Posted on 13/05/2008 14:45
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I don't agree with victimising people for their political views, however much I disagree with them.

In this case though I think the club are right to sack him. He is aware of the public perception of the BNP and fully aware of the clubs policy on racism. By allowing this all to get into the public eye he has put the club in an awkward position.

Perhaps the club would lose at a tribunal, but if I was Gibson I would be happy to pay the compensation and refuse to have the man back.

Buddy2 Posted on 13/05/2008 14:46
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“The driver said she was only doing her job but I said they should have had a sign up so people know.”

OK. So if the driver said "no paint" and pointed at the relevant sign he'd have said "fair enough love, my mistake" and trotted off without even thinking of phoning the paper?

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 14:48
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Or a sign saying:

"No gazette faces"

JohnAnderson Posted on 13/05/2008 14:49
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Unless there was proof of the steward treating people differently because of their race or using the club as part of his campaign then theres no reason for him to be sacked in the eyes of law, and I can see Boro being sued

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 13/05/2008 14:50
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Persumably he wants the bus covered in signs saying what you can and cant bring.

"No Knives, No Paint, No Fireworks, No Petrol, No raw sewage, No Radioactive matter, No live piranahs......"

NedKat Posted on 13/05/2008 14:50
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No wonder he had a gazette face ! He was looking at a long walk home, and two gallons of emulsion isn't light, yer know !!

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 14:50
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So you don't think his public affiliation to an openly racist party, combined with his employment with a club with an established stance on racism plus his ability to name-drop the fact that he is a boro steward in every public statement from him is not bringing them into disrepute?

Lefty Posted on 13/05/2008 14:51
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Possibly, JohnAnderson.

I think it would be money well spent though.

ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 14:53
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Sacking people because of their political beliefs is not new.

What about the American communist witchhunt?

Dangerous precedent.

Surely the way forward is to argue that what they say is wrong?

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 13/05/2008 14:55
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"Unless there was proof of the steward treating people differently because of their race or using the club as part of his campaign then theres no reason for him to be sacked in the eyes of law,"

You mean apart from the precedence that has already been set?

JohnAnderson Posted on 13/05/2008 14:56
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I didnt know there was a precedent.

somethingtodowithdeath Posted on 13/05/2008 14:57
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We might find that the steward was sacked for with-holding or not declaring relevent information as part of the pre-employment process, e.g he could have had to complete a questionaire or proforma asking him to declare relevent information that 'might' or 'could' be in conflict with his duties or the companies policies. If he has with-held any information regardless of it being a member of the BNP 'I think' his employers are entitled to sack him. I think.

Lefty Posted on 13/05/2008 14:59
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I agree with you Ridsdale except that it would be very damaging for the image of the club to continue to employ him.

ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 15:06
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Yes, I would agree he probably signed his fate when he mentioned the club in his election leaflet.

The chances are this demo will go unnoticed. A few people on a piece of wasteland miles from the town centre is hardly a good choice.

But what else would you expect of these dumb wits.

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 13/05/2008 15:10
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since when is racism a political view?
theres a nazi postman doing rounds near me. has a little hitler tache.
I love the way when a totalitarian dictator grows himself a tache, all his little minions try to copy his style.

Lefty Posted on 13/05/2008 15:30
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Sheriff,

Race discrimination is illegal, inciting racial hatred is illegal. Membership of the BNP is not illegal therefore I assume the BNP these days are careful about such things and as they are allowed to stand in elections I would say that being a supporter comes under the category of having a political view rather than a racist view. One can have both of course.

Boroboi_Dave Posted on 13/05/2008 15:36
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is this the steward that comes up the stairs every match n tells me to sit down the T***!! i'm sat on the back row but can't stand up pfffffffft P*** offfff

Lefty Posted on 13/05/2008 16:07
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Do you look like Al Jolson?

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 13/05/2008 16:59
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I reckon the club should now sack anyone who is involved in the labour party for F***ing our country up

kazzaxxx3 Posted on 13/05/2008 17:09
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Ironic you posting that with your username
Do you want to send Tuncay back , and Aliadere , and Alves?
Aren't they bloody foreigners taking our jobs?

Armitage_Shanks Posted on 13/05/2008 17:22
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Is anyone of the opinion that mass immigration is all part of a hidden agenda?

A multi-culture society with no identity apart from being European?

All part of a "New World Order" according to some

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 13/05/2008 17:34
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What you trying to say Kazza
i never said i was in favour of anyone
but i do think the current government are racist against the british people.
Why should me and my workmates lose our jobs that we have had for nearly 10 years to polish workers just because they will work for minimum wage.

ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 17:41
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"Why should me and my workmates lose our jobs that we have had for nearly 10 years to polish workers just because they will work for minimum wage."

Where is that happening then? Doubt if it would be legal.

Can't blame the Poles, blame your employers.

foomanboro Posted on 13/05/2008 17:42
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All i have to say is well done to the club!

Shows great integrity.

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 13/05/2008 17:46
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its happening all over the country. without going in to detail we have lost a very large contract that we have had for years to a company who can do the job cheaper and there workforce is primarily polish. we will have substantial job losses and probably more when we lose other similar contracts.

ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 17:48
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I have no idea how contract workers are protected, if at all. Seems more a case of a government that refuses to protect pay and conditions at fault rather than the Poles.

Are you in a union?

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 13/05/2008 17:52
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well when they come for your job ill show you the same sympathy and
yes the union is trying to help but i dont think there is anything that can be done

ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 17:56
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I am not unsympathetic. I know a lot of people on contracts that are losing their jobs or facing changes in conditions. Hospitals, Corus etc. Absolutely disgusting.

It is the governments fault for failing to protect wages and conditions.

sasboro1 Posted on 13/05/2008 17:57
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company i work for sends work out to india and south africa. usually costs about a 5th of the price as getting it done in the uk. if they were stopped from outsourcing work abroad they would probably just close down and move abroad.

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 13/05/2008 18:06
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"I reckon the club should now sack anyone who is involved in the labour party for F***ing our country up"

thats all i was saying in my original post about the government but i think kazza thought i was being racist never mind


ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 18:07
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What industry are you in Tuncay?

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 13/05/2008 18:08
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roofing and scaffolding we work around the country

neilg Posted on 13/05/2008 18:09
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black and white unite and kick racists out of football. no platform for fascists!

congratulations to gibbo and the whole club for making it quite clear, theres no room for S*** at OUR club.

giving the chalice of democracy to nazis is akin to presenting a convicted murderer with a loaded weapon.they shall NOT pass!

kazza Posted on 13/05/2008 18:11
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just want to say kazzaxxx3 is not me

ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 18:13
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It is a bit of a tough one as construction has always involved travel. The poles are just traveling further.

The thing is you should all be on the same rate of pay and conditions, no-one should be used as cheap labour.

It is a big issue that needs addressing.

Such a shame that the modern plastic socialists prefer to mount pickets on a few far right lunatics than organise action to fight this sort of exploitation.

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 13/05/2008 18:13
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no worries kazza

Muttley Posted on 13/05/2008 18:20
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"Their policies are aimed at getting Britain back to been British:"

Yes, they're just misunderstood. In truth their "policies" are to try to present a legitimate front to draw in the gullible.

neilg Posted on 13/05/2008 18:26
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the british union of fascists used to wear blck shirts - under oswald mosley.

today the british nazi party wear pin stripe suits. the british movement have helped the rightward split in the bnp recently. the right are open admirers of hitler - and that includes the bnps deputy leader. Mark collette.

i salute middlesbrough football club!

jam69 Posted on 13/05/2008 18:27
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most of the so called engish came from places like ireland.or like the royal family germany

king_hellfire Posted on 13/05/2008 18:34
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'Decent people on the whole are decent, these people are not decent people.'


*Puts on best Smashie and Nicey voice*

Wise words, mate

boro74 Posted on 13/05/2008 18:37
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Well done Boro.

alvesdad Posted on 13/05/2008 19:01
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Best thing the Boro could have done.
If you are a member of the Nazi Party you are racist and the Boro
have signed to No Racism at the ground how can they employ a man who does not aree with this.Its alright saying we live in a democracy but you can bet your bottom dollar this man is not a democrat.GOOD ON THE BORO.

Bren_MFC Posted on 13/05/2008 19:09
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I thought the BNP were a legitimate political party, why would they sack somebody for belonging to a legitimate political party?

borobuddah Posted on 13/05/2008 19:11
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Just a shame he wasn't sacked for his own safety.

bblf Posted on 13/05/2008 19:42
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The BNP are a legitamate Political party. The club will have another reason for sacking him as I don't think they could get away with saying its because hes in the BNP without paying out compensation.
They may be a horrible bunch but they are not an illegal party.

Bri_Marwood Posted on 13/05/2008 22:48
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"Race discrimination is illegal"

So, are we going to see an end to the National Black Police Association and the MOBO awards?

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 22:56
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Are white police discriminated against? Never heard of the institutional racism of the police force over the past 20 years plus? Never seen a white person win an award for music that originated from black origins? Same old tired argument.

The BNP are racists.

MFC are outwardly anti-racist.

The steward had mentioned his links with MFC on his promotional literature.

He had to go. Now get it through your heads FFS.

Bri_Marwood Posted on 13/05/2008 23:01
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Have a read of the following link and tell me this isn't discrimatory towards white police officers.

Surely being promoted to the highest ranks is about ability and not skin colour or ethnic origin?


Link: Ethnic quota

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 23:05
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"Mr Straw sees the new policies as a landmark change in the culture of the British police following the damning criticism of "institutional racism" in the Metropolitan force by the report into the murder of the black teenager, Stephen Lawrence."

So I should just dismiss that? Or does it not fit the point you are trying to 'prove'?

If you've got a racist police force, then forcing them to actively recruit black officers is going to make a difference. And it has.

Now if you are trying to suggest that is as bad as white officers making monkey jokes at new black recruits or turning a blind eye to black kids being killed then you aren't running on all cylinders.

Bri_Marwood Posted on 13/05/2008 23:09
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You deal with the offenders and boot them out of the force, you tackle the racism head on. Promoting black officers to fill quota's over more deserving white officers is hardly going to create harmony is it?

And what do you think the reaction would be to Music Of White Origins awards?

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 23:15
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You're right. Racism is fine as are the BNP if it means that white people can have their own music awards in peace.

Bri_Marwood Posted on 13/05/2008 23:20
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I haven't said the BNP are fine at all, just that racism isn't only a white on black affair and a fair percentage is playing the race card too. If you're going to deal with racism, fascism, discrimination then do it to suit everyone afflicted, not just blacks.

Sacking someone for openly supporting a legal political party is discrimination.

mailinator Posted on 13/05/2008 23:26
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Sacking someone who openly states his employment at MFC on his campaign literature for a racist party in direct contravention to MFC's well known and firm stance on racism is good business. He brought MFC into disrepute. If you think this is not the case then kindly explain how boro would prove that their policy on racism was not a total sham considering they employ a candidate for a racist party and did nothing about it?

As for the race card and those other cliches, what is your point? If people have been racist towards black people then saying black people can be racist to is hardly a riposte, is it?

Bri_Marwood Posted on 13/05/2008 23:37
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Voting BNP does not make you a racist in as much as voting Labour doesn't make you pro-war. He may well vote BNP for policies which have no bearing on race whatsoever.

Does his campaign literature make direct racist utterances? If so then I will take back everything I have said.

Lefty Posted on 13/05/2008 23:42
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Bri, do you believe the BNP are not racist?

red_rebel Posted on 13/05/2008 23:45
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The BNP are fascists, there is no doubt about that. They were formed as a split of the serious unreconstructed jackboot faction from the soft electoral politics of the National Front.

It was a collection of former skinheads who wanted to go back to the traditional values of paki-bashing and putting peoples windows through, and old school nazi wannabes who liked to dress up in SS uniforms, gammy legged, stunted pervs who fancy themselves as some Norse master race and daydream of how great things would be if only Hitler had won.

It includes on its top table violent thugs and pyschopaths convicted of assault, GBH, explosives offences and rape as well as the usual rites of passage like beating up frail old Asians. Many of its number are overt nazis, the full works: deportation of darkies, labour camps for the jews and queers, an end to the decadence of democracy and liberalism. These people are not just misunderstood patriots denied a voice by the PC press.

They are denied a voice by their own leadership because Griffin knows they are all completely barking, violent, politically illiterate and totally unelectable. But they are all there, seething in the background and waiting to be unleashed.

Those who ignore that obvious goose-stepping elephant in the room and and try to score cheap points off "the PC brigade" about "freedom of speech" or argue spurious points of electoral law are playing a very dangerous game.

The nazis are just that. There is no room for a fudge. You can't pretend you only like the sound of their policy on road building or punctual transport. That is window dressing and you know it.

Bri_Marwood Posted on 13/05/2008 23:51
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The BNP have very questionable policies when it comes to immigration but as racism is supposedly illegal in this country, why are they a legal political party if they are fundamentally racist?

If they are purely a racist party, why are blacks and Asians voting for them?

ridsdale Posted on 13/05/2008 23:53
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So, how would you tackle this problem then rebel?

Is it attack them violently, educate people.

Or, how about offering those who have voted for them a real alternative?

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 13/05/2008 23:56
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If you're not racist, then why join the BNP? As RR says, there's a lot of window dressing, particularly with the stuff about them engaging with ethnic minority community groups as mentioned by Mavrick. It seems like a cynical piece of PR to be honest. A bit like the spin doctoring of New Labour, only more sinister.

Maybe as some have suggested, the steward was sacked for not declaring his political interests, as with many employers, you have to declare this sort of thing, particularly if it could possibly compromise the integrity of your employers or your ability to do your job. What if someone complained to him about racist chanting, especially if it was an Asian supporter? He'd be a hypocrite if he did summat about it, but he would not be doing his job if he ignored it. Maybe it was to do with name dropping MFC on his campaign literature. With many employers, if you do someting that could publicly blacken their name, it's a disciplinary offence. I used to think some of our stewards were little Hitlers. Now I know it's true.

I'm not particularly comfortable with sacking people for membership of a political party, but with some employers, that sort of thing is banned. I once applied for a civillian job with a police constabulary and membership of the BNP was banned, although maybe it was considered as being over-qualified.

As regards what Bri said about ethnic quotas, I think this is what is known as "positive discrimination". My view is that all discrimination is wrong. I'm sure I read somewhere that nowadays employers are allowed to discriminate in favour of minorities that are under-represented. I know it used to be the case that employers would state that they actively encourage applications from such minorities (nowt wrong with that), but I'm not comfortable with what the law allows them to do now, should that be the case. Maybe it's just Daily Mail scaremongering.

If I remember, in Northern Ireland, when the RUC was renamed the PSNI, it was decided that 50% of all new recruits would be Roman Catholic. Now if there's 100 vacancies, if 200 protestants apply and 50 RCs, that means that all the RCs, assuming the meet all the criteria, pass aptitude tests and interviews are guaranteed a job. Even if all the protestants are stronger candidates, they only have a one in four chance. Surely, that can't be right.

red_rebel Posted on 14/05/2008 00:38
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Ridsdale,

As you well know the only way to head off the 'protest' votes for the BNP is to pull the rug from under their feet and for the left to actually start fighting for the working class.

The drift to the far right is from disenfranchised estates in northern industrial towns - the people who have been abandoned by "new" Labour in their quest to appeal to middle-England swing seats, PFI lobbyists and the Daily Mail.

It is all too easy for the fascists to pose as the voice of the dispossessed when there is a vaccuum there where the labour and the left used to be.

What ordinary people want is the health, education and welfare services they have paid for, decent housing and transport, clean and safe streets, a future for their children. What they want is what socialists have always advocated. It is what historically the labour and trade union movement delivered.

In the absence of those advocates the fascists have moved in with their false promises, lies and their offer of an easy scapegoat.





Uncle_harry Posted on 14/05/2008 00:47
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I see there's 3 of these threads now! presumably theres a whle lotta cutting and pasting going on, or is every one a) typing their views out all over again or b) changing their opinion on each thread?

nice work keep it up

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 14/05/2008 00:48
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RR, you're spot on there. Labour used to purport to represent the working class but now panders too much towards Middle England. Until it refinds its roots, expect continued protest votes in local elections from disaffected white working class people. I hope such votes remain no more than protest votes. We should never be complacent. I don't mean to scaremonger, as I can't see it happening to the same extent in this country, but this was how the Nazis came to power in 1930s Germany. Mind, Labour should also direct some of it's energies in confounding the likes of the British Nazi Party.

Gillandi Posted on 14/05/2008 02:58
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Spot on Reb and hilarious use of early 70's pre-PC street lingo.

"Gammy" should never be lost to the brigadeers.

[:D]


joseph99 Posted on 14/05/2008 07:12
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My only comment on this would be: would MFC or any other major English FC sack a player if he was invoved in a racist slur on an opposing player? I suspect not, a bit like how the BBC still use Ron Atkinson for his opinion. I am assuming the guy was sacked for being a racist. Although I have no sympathy for this guy I do think status of the individual is a factor here and sets an interesting precedent.

Buddy2 Posted on 14/05/2008 10:03
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"If they are purely a racist party, why are blacks and Asians voting for them?"

Because being dense and racist is not restricted to white people. There was a programme on Channel 4 a few weeks ago which spoke to a load of settled or second generation Asians and West Indians, who were happily trotting out the "bloody Poles, coming over here, taking our jobs" guff.

ridsdale Posted on 14/05/2008 10:08
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"Because being dense and racist is not restricted to white people."

I suspect you have confused many members of this board now Buddy.

They can't envisage Asians and West Indians in trackies and trainers, with rolled up socks and cans of extra strong.

Buddy2 Posted on 14/05/2008 10:10
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I thought it was nice of HIGNFY to employ Reginald D Hunter as a racism consultant last week.

zaphod Posted on 14/05/2008 10:51
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Has MFC put out a statement on this, giving the reasons for dismissal? Some employment contracts specify that you can't stand for elected office without first obtaining company permission (mine did) and certainly it's likely to be against MFC rules to use your MFC position to gain an advantage (either politically or financially).

What sort of employment contract do stewards have? Presumably it's just a short-term contract for casual labour, so it's unlikely MFC had to "sack" him at all.

ridsdale Posted on 14/05/2008 10:56
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Is there going to be a counter demo, with neilg dressed up and sporting a pink triangle. Littlejimmy with his farmers against racism placard. And specky and co. throwing clever jibes to confuse these thick BNP members. Uncle harry and his bairns coming over yonder hill to throw baps at them.?

I might turn up. Just to watch like.

whoyadoin2 Posted on 14/05/2008 11:17
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It's like we are the St Pauli of England.

Well done MFC

Lefty Posted on 14/05/2008 11:20
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rids [:D]

Uncle_harry Posted on 14/05/2008 12:11
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feeding fascists baps? - they can get their own bloody baps

..I'm more a fadgy man anyway on account of my nana & mams exellent work on the fadgy front

(there's a few sentences I never thought I'd live long enough to type)

red_rebel Posted on 14/05/2008 12:32
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We could throw bagels, croissants and pannini at them, swamping their endangered indiginous bread-based snack delivery systems.

littlejimmy Posted on 14/05/2008 12:36
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And a few naan breads and sharpened poppadums.

red_rebel Posted on 14/05/2008 12:47
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"Eat chappatti fascist scum"

*throws curry tainted frisbee of death*

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 14/05/2008 12:56
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"Because being dense and racist is not restricted to white people"
So if they don't vote for the same party all the time like they're told to, they are dense? Who's the racist here? Black people are vocal about asylum seekers being paid to do nowt, and cheap imported labour wrecking their own living. It's the here and now that matters to people, not history. This doesn't make them BNP supporters btw, but it would expain people of any colour voting for them tactically, until the mainstream parties start paying attention.

littlejimmy Posted on 14/05/2008 13:00
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That highlights how poor many people's grasp of the facts are, with all due respect. Asylum seekers "getting paid to do nowt" doesn't really cover the situation fully. They are unable to work BY LAW until they are granted refugee status.

whoyadoin2 Posted on 14/05/2008 14:11
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FC St. Pauli enjoy certain fame for the left leaning character of its supporters: most of the team's fans regard themselves as anti-racist, anti-fascist and anti-sexist, and this has on occasion brought them into conflict with neo-Nazis and hooligans at away games. The organization has taken up an outspoken stance against racism, fascism, sexism, and homophobia and has embodied this position in its constitution. Team supporters traditionally participate in demonstrations in the Hamburg district of St. Pauli, including those over squatting or low-income housing such as the Hafenstraße and Bambule. The centre of fan activity is the Fanladen St. Pauli.

beerwulf Posted on 14/05/2008 14:20
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I saw this blokes election leaflet and on it he stated that he worked for M.F.C. This may have led some people to believe that M.F.C. were backing his candidature for election, thus linking the boro to his party and all that they stand for.
This would have given the club a very good reason to terminate his contract, as his actions would have been perceived as gross misconduct.

Bren_MFC Posted on 15/05/2008 22:02
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Don't understand your logic, if he stated he worked for MFC, how would people conclude MFC supported the BNP, why exactly was he sacked, what reason was given?

ridsdale Posted on 15/05/2008 23:16
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Did this protest march actually take place then?

Block23 Posted on 16/05/2008 11:22
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taken from the bnpforclevland humor website

"Nick Griffin and members of civil liberty showed their support for Barry Towers by attending a protest against Middlesbrough Football Club’s disgraceful decision to sack Barry Towers.


A dozen free speech supporters turned up to hand in a petition which totalled almost 900 signatures, including 700 people that Barry Towers got to sign the petition while pounding streets of Middlesbrough. While protesting BBC Radio Tees and a freelance reporter interviewed Barry Towers and Nick Griffin. Even though the press were there Middlesbrough Football Club only allowed the protesters to stay for 20 minutes. Do you think they support free speech?

After the protest the majority of the protesters went to a nearby Middlesbrough pub and chatted with Nick Griffin and Kevin Scott (Civil Liberty) for over an hour."

So it sounds like das fuhrer old bong eye griffin was there himself alongside a massive turn out of 12 people. This shows the BNP for what they are a total joke.

¡No Pasarán!

Jerry_Brown Posted on 16/05/2008 11:24
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The Radio Tees reporter who was there, said that only six people took part in the march, and two of those where Griffin and Towers, who sounded as thick as the proverbial two planks, 'innit'

KingOfTheTribes Posted on 16/05/2008 11:26
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

Why do you put 'They shall not pass' after your posts? Weirdo.

captain5 Posted on 16/05/2008 11:28
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

That Civil Liberty group appear a fun group.

All of their civil liberties work appears to be in support of far right causes being able to express themselves.

Probably just a coincidence mind.

Block23 Posted on 16/05/2008 11:30
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

You dont understand the connection?

link it up


Link: LINK

KingOfTheTribes Posted on 16/05/2008 11:32
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

I understand the connection - I don't understand why you put it after every post.

zaphod Posted on 16/05/2008 11:34
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

But they did pass & it appears no-one tried to stop them.

speckyget Posted on 16/05/2008 11:41
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

With only six showing up does this constitute a 'march'?

A more appropriate collective noun might be 'Picnic'.

captain5 Posted on 16/05/2008 11:43
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

I don't think so, Specky.

From what Zaphod says, it appears they weren't hampered.



*Ouch*

speckyget Posted on 16/05/2008 11:44
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

Ouch?

Ayyyaaaz more like....

red_rebel Posted on 16/05/2008 12:44
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

Civil Liberty is a BNP front that is used to raise funds for the fascists from naive "political correctness gone mad" merchants.


Link: fascist front

captain5 Posted on 16/05/2008 12:51
BNP march against Middlesbrough Football Club

Lucky we don't have any of those on here, red.