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Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:16
Fabrice Muamba....

Possible cardiac on the pitch ???[:O] Players look shocked.

ThePrisoner Posted on 17/03/2012 18:17
Fabrice Muamba....

Hope it's not as serious as it looks. Was he tackled or did he just take ill?

Marvanelli Posted on 17/03/2012 18:18
Fabrice Muamba....

Looks serious!

Fans, players all upset[|)]

maninashed Posted on 17/03/2012 18:18
Fabrice Muamba....

man.. this looks really bad. fingers crossed. [sad]

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:18
Fabrice Muamba....

Seemed to fall.Poor lad.

tom_mate Posted on 17/03/2012 18:19
Fabrice Muamba....

This is horrible.

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:19
Fabrice Muamba....

Looks like abandonment..Hope he recovers soon.

Marvanelli Posted on 17/03/2012 18:20
Fabrice Muamba....

Dont know how the players can go on after that[|)]

Hope he's ok[sad]

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:21
Fabrice Muamba....

Abandoned.Get well soon lad.

1finny Posted on 17/03/2012 18:23
Fabrice Muamba....

Watching it abroad. No camera shot of anything that happened. Did he just collapse?

Chappy112 Posted on 17/03/2012 18:23
Fabrice Muamba....

That was horrible viewing. [sad]

Sitrep Posted on 17/03/2012 18:25
Fabrice Muamba....

Trying to resuscitate him whilst carrying him off, doesn't look good.

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:25
Fabrice Muamba....

Only saw him lying face down,,players looked shocked !

Stanley_Downing Posted on 17/03/2012 18:26
Fabrice Muamba....

Can't believe what I just watched, hope he's okay but doesn't look good

phil_ostine Posted on 17/03/2012 18:28
Fabrice Muamba....

I missed what happened. Left the room for a second, came back in and he was on the floor. I assumed he'd been on the end of a bad tackle.

Awful to see/hear about this.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 17/03/2012 18:28
Fabrice Muamba....

This is the worst thing I have ever seen whilst watching a game of football. I really and sincerely hope the lad makes it.

offside-again Posted on 17/03/2012 18:31
Fabrice Muamba....

Please be ok. [sad]

Terrible, just terrible.[|)]

Ghost_of_Sparta Posted on 17/03/2012 18:32
Fabrice Muamba....

I'm gobsmacked[sad]

Come on FM, pull through this lad.

Renrut Posted on 17/03/2012 18:33
Fabrice Muamba....

Doesn't bode well that they have called the game off now. Hope and pray that the guy pulls through.

Chappy112 Posted on 17/03/2012 18:34
Fabrice Muamba....

Seen the same before with Puerta and Foe. It's the most horrible thing to see. [sad]

Revol_Tees Posted on 17/03/2012 18:35
Fabrice Muamba....

Horrendous, hope he pulls through. Justin Hoyte has just put this on Twitter, obviously close to him: "I seriously hope my best friend in football @fmuamba is ok. Stay strong bro please please stay strong. God is with u remember tht!!!!! "

LTS_3 Posted on 17/03/2012 18:36
Fabrice Muamba....

Horrendous when things like this happen to people who you assume are fit as a fiddle and in the prime of their life

Hope he pulls through it

junouk Posted on 17/03/2012 18:38
Fabrice Muamba....

this is horrid.

I can't watch. Glad the game is called of and hope the lad pulls through this.

Awful just awful. Still no word but he is on his way to the hospital according to yahoo.

newyddion Posted on 17/03/2012 18:38
Fabrice Muamba....

Quality player Muamba [^]

I hope the lad is going to be ok

Muttley Posted on 17/03/2012 18:38
Fabrice Muamba....

Looked very bad, from what I saw he just dropped and appeared to be having a fit.

Hope he makes it. [|)]

HolgateSp1kes Posted on 17/03/2012 18:40
Fabrice Muamba....

Lets hope he makes a full recovery

bblf Posted on 17/03/2012 18:40
Fabrice Muamba....

Come on fella we are all rooting for you.

phil_ostine Posted on 17/03/2012 18:40
Fabrice Muamba....

It's hard to get your head around stuff like this. Only 23. Hopefully he'll pull through. Awful, awful news.

Babe_Rhuth Posted on 17/03/2012 18:41
Fabrice Muamba....

"Seen the same before with Puerta and Foe. It's the most horrible thing to see"

Feher of Benfica as well.

Seems to be happening rather too much these days.


Class_of_86 Posted on 17/03/2012 18:41
Fabrice Muamba....

Absolutely shocked

Hope he's ok

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:44
Fabrice Muamba....

"ESPN say that Muamba is still receiving CPR on the way to hospital." [sad]


Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:46
Fabrice Muamba....

Tweet: Middlesbrough defender Justin Hoyte, who came through the Arsenal youth team with Muamba: "I seriously hope my best friend in football is OK. Stay strong bro please please stay strong. God is with you remember that."

Tuncay_alves_ftw Posted on 17/03/2012 18:48
Fabrice Muamba....

Puts everything into perspective,Espeically all the people who complain about small things. I really hope he pulls through. The poor guy

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:49
Fabrice Muamba....

"6.44pm The ESPN reporter in the tunnel says that Bolton are preparing a statement to confirm that Muamba is on his way to hospital. There is no further information, and we still don't know whether attempts to resusciate Muamba have been successful. It's hard to articulate just how shocked everybody looks, from the referee to the players to the ESPN team."




Link: Updates from the Guardian

SKEELO Posted on 17/03/2012 18:49
Fabrice Muamba....

Hope the lads ok, was watching it myself and it was very upsetting.

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 18:51
Fabrice Muamba....

"The latest news on Fabrice Muamba is that medical staff were still trying to resuscitate him on his way to hospital. ESPN have reported that Bolton boss Owen Coyle and club captain Kevin Davies are set to join him there."


Link: Beeb updates

Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 17/03/2012 18:51
Fabrice Muamba....

Sounds very bad. If he pulls through this it will be a suprise.

squarewheelbike Posted on 17/03/2012 18:53
Fabrice Muamba....

Then, come on lad surprise us!

Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 17/03/2012 18:59
Fabrice Muamba....

Reports that they got him breathing in the Ambulance.

maninashed Posted on 17/03/2012 19:00
Fabrice Muamba....

this is the lowest point i've ever known as a football fan. pull through muamba. [^]

mwelolo Posted on 17/03/2012 19:01
Fabrice Muamba....

Strange, was thinking about Mark Vivien Foe dieing during a game just this morning, how unpleasant this was and recalling other footballer deaths.

PinkPonce Posted on 17/03/2012 19:08
Fabrice Muamba....

I feel sick. Just awful. Hope he pulls through.

PP ... x

xBoro_Scallyx Posted on 17/03/2012 19:10
Fabrice Muamba....

Pray For Muamba

Stretch177 Posted on 17/03/2012 19:11
Fabrice Muamba....

Feel sick, hope he is ok.....keep this updated lads on way back from the match

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 19:11
Fabrice Muamba....

"The last we heard was that Muamba was on his way to hospital, that he was not breathing and that he was still receiving CPR. That was 35 minutes ago."

From the Guardian link provided above. [|)] Come on Fabrice, you can do this! [sad]

Wilton Posted on 17/03/2012 19:11
Fabrice Muamba....

Cannot believe people are posting anything but good messages on here at the moment. What does it matter about mogga and team selection ect at the minute.

karl_hungus Posted on 17/03/2012 19:12
Fabrice Muamba....

shame how you all feel sick etc

but there was about 6 reponses to a post last week about an amercian butchering 9 children

strange how as humans beings, we revere the people in the public eye, and display irrational remorse and sadness for there fortunes but don't really give a XXXXXX if there not famous

for the record, i hope he ok and recovers, just like i would anybody else


ron_manager Posted on 17/03/2012 19:15
Fabrice Muamba....

Karl you are a knob head[V]

Emmersons_BrazillianDong Posted on 17/03/2012 19:15
Fabrice Muamba....

this is horrible. I hope he is ok

Chappy112 Posted on 17/03/2012 19:15
Fabrice Muamba....

I don't think it's a famous person, it's more because he plays in the sport that I love. That's how it is with me anyway.

Stanley_Downing Posted on 17/03/2012 19:15
Fabrice Muamba....

Not the time karl

mwelolo Posted on 17/03/2012 19:16
Fabrice Muamba....

Not often that I would agree with the Dude but he is correct.

skiprat Posted on 17/03/2012 19:17
Fabrice Muamba....

Long time no see on that login The_Dude.

PinkPonce Posted on 17/03/2012 19:18
Fabrice Muamba....

Wrong time wrong place, dude.

The difference here is because it was witnessed. If you read about any kind of accident in the paper it can never have the same affect as witnessing it in person. That's just the way we're all made, including you.

PP ... x

mwelolo Posted on 17/03/2012 19:19
Fabrice Muamba....

I can't imagine that everyone who has posted on here witnessed it.

No means less sad though, feel for his family.

maninashed Posted on 17/03/2012 19:20
Fabrice Muamba....

longer this goes on the worse it feels.

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 19:21
Fabrice Muamba....

Tremendous credit to Howard Webb for handling the incident with great calmness, expedience and incredible professionalism. The fans, the medics, staff, everyone - bless them all for handling such a difficult, heart-wrenching situation in such a heart-felt and calm fashion. I am totally gutted. [|)]

Please Fabrice, pull through fella.

Renrut Posted on 17/03/2012 19:21
Fabrice Muamba....

Surely the simple fact that this is a football message board, filled with fans of the sport who have watched games day in day out for years, means that this incident will hit home slightly more?

Not rocket science.

How about keeping your opinions for a more suitable time?

wherestheremote Posted on 17/03/2012 19:21
Fabrice Muamba....

Well said Karl [^]

I just wish people on social networking sites would stop asking me to pray for him.

Getting back on topic, I hope the lad pulls through OK.

Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 17/03/2012 19:22
Fabrice Muamba....

According to twitter, the ambulance crew have confirmed they got him breathing again. Hope there's no long term problems.

Wilton Posted on 17/03/2012 19:23
Fabrice Muamba....

By the way Vespa your choice of the words in your post are sick!!!

teesste Posted on 17/03/2012 19:24
Fabrice Muamba....

Let's hope that's the case then...SSN none the wiser... Keep fighting young fella

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 17/03/2012 19:27
Fabrice Muamba....

I have a feeling that if the lad had survived then they'd have announced it by now. Wouldn't they? I don't know. Just have to hope that no news is good news.

LeeMiller Posted on 17/03/2012 19:28
Fabrice Muamba....

Good luck Fab. Positive wishes from all of us.

mooghead Posted on 17/03/2012 19:28
Fabrice Muamba....

Sky News are loving this... talking about him like he has been declared dead.. disgraceful..

Hope the fella is ok..

[|)]

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 19:31
Fabrice Muamba....

Just heard about this.

Hope the guy is ok.[sad]

homesickblues Posted on 17/03/2012 19:31
Fabrice Muamba....

Come on Fabrice, please pull through.

Prawn Posted on 17/03/2012 19:33
Fabrice Muamba....

I think sky news no more than they are allowed to say , I'm afraid . When the English Indy car driver was killed they said afterwards they new 30 minutes ago but weren't allowed to say anything ! The one n the right looks like he I about to break down so I really don't think this is going to have a happy ending .

karl_hungus Posted on 17/03/2012 19:35
Fabrice Muamba....

no skin of my back


always the same on here, anytime something happens to a celebrtity theres a thousand remorseful posts, telling everybody else how caring, and remorseful they should be as well, i got past all that nonsense aged about 5, and save my remorse for family and people i know

i'm happy the way my brain is wired, and i don't have anything but stoicism toward total strangers, regardless if it was on TV or not

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 19:35
Fabrice Muamba....

Wilton,,, care to explain ?

SocraTees3 Posted on 17/03/2012 19:36
Fabrice Muamba....

Shocking and upsetting. Poor lad. Hope he pulls thru.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 17/03/2012 19:36
Fabrice Muamba....

The use of the word 'shocked' I think, Vespa.

backofthenet Posted on 17/03/2012 19:37
Fabrice Muamba....

Karl - 'i got past all that nonsense aged about 5' - no yer didn't son so give it a rest.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 17/03/2012 19:39
Fabrice Muamba....

Why are you posting on this thread, dude? After all, this incident, presumably, going off your contributions so far, means absolutely nothing to you. So why don't you just give it a rest and take your sanctimony elsewhere.

This thread is neither the time nor the place.

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 19:41
Fabrice Muamba....

Ok Viv..I guessed that reading back.

HarryVegas Posted on 17/03/2012 19:43
Fabrice Muamba....

Terrible [|)] wasn't watching the match and only just read of this. Here's hoping the lad pulls through.

byrno Posted on 17/03/2012 19:43
Fabrice Muamba....

Bloody hell! Been out since about half 4 and just got back in and put the telly on. Absolutely awful, hope he is ok.

I remember when M.V. Foe died I was playing champ man online with a load of lads off here.

This really puts everything else in the game (including our result today) into perspective.

phil_ostine Posted on 17/03/2012 19:43
Fabrice Muamba....

Don't know if this has been said, but how did this happen? If he had a heart defect or something similar, how was it not picked up in medicals and stuff? You would have thought it would have been noted previously.

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 17/03/2012 19:44
Fabrice Muamba....

Kark Hungus you have sank to new low.


mooghead Posted on 17/03/2012 19:45
Fabrice Muamba....

Karl.. I am really sorry for hoping that a professional athlete in the prime of his life pulls through a serious health scare

You absolute cnut

[:(]

Tuncay_alves_ftw Posted on 17/03/2012 19:45
Fabrice Muamba....

some people..

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 19:47
Fabrice Muamba....

"So why don't you just give it a rest and take your sanctimony elsewhere"

Well said Viv.

ron_manager Posted on 17/03/2012 19:48
Fabrice Muamba....

Dude don't assume what emotions I experience concerning the killing of children in Afghanistan.[V]

borolad259 Posted on 17/03/2012 19:49
Fabrice Muamba....

The Dude is back on the naughty step.

manhead Posted on 17/03/2012 19:49
Fabrice Muamba....

Fingers crossed for the lad, bloody awful. Karl, your a Doyle, go away.

phil_ostine Posted on 17/03/2012 19:50
Fabrice Muamba....

"always the same on here, anytime something happens to a celebrtity theres a thousand remorseful posts, telling everybody else how caring, and remorseful they should be as well, i got past all that nonsense aged about 5, and save my remorse for family and people i know

i'm happy the way my brain is wired, and i don't have anything but stoicism toward total strangers, regardless if it was on TV or not"

I get what you're saying. But this isn't a celebrity, is it? It's a footballer. We're football fans. He's a young lad. People are bound to care a little bit. Stop being a dick, man. Come on.

Emmersons_BrazillianDong Posted on 17/03/2012 19:51
Fabrice Muamba....

Don't bite, that's what he wants. Just ignore him.

rufus4 Posted on 17/03/2012 19:53
Fabrice Muamba....

As a sports fan and person I hope he pulls through.Now is the time to put all Football rivalries apart and all wish him a speedy recovery.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 17/03/2012 19:57
Fabrice Muamba....

Karl, I think one issue is that he is young (early 20s) and as a footballer thought of as quite fit and healthy. I think that's why people are so taken aback. I'm glad I missed all this as I was watching the rugby. From the posts above, it seems it was horrible to watch. Let's just hope and pray that the lad recovers.

peterkay Posted on 17/03/2012 20:01
Fabrice Muamba....

Karl we care cause its a young bloke who may lose his life, you are a [:o)]

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 20:02
Fabrice Muamba....

When awful incidents like this happen the Football Family that we are all a part of comes together in collective solidarity, wishing and hoping for positive news.

The fact that Karl finds it so incredibly easy to detach himself from something that has touched us all is something he has to live with, not us.

It's pretty typical of people with sociopathic tendencies to be able to feel nothing. It's interesting that he comments on being five years of age when this emotional detachment occurred. He therefore needs to be pitied rather than pilloried, even though his comments are so incredibly uncaring and hurtful.

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 20:06
Fabrice Muamba....

Thanks for intervening, Borolad. [^]

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 20:07
Fabrice Muamba....

Essentially this a football forum is it not?

Is it to be wondered at that a football receives more attention than anyone else would?

Sh0rny Posted on 17/03/2012 20:10
Fabrice Muamba....

Hope he pulls through Puts things into perspective

HarryVegas Posted on 17/03/2012 20:11
Fabrice Muamba....

Come on guys, it's a thread about a young player who's seriously ill or worse. Let's not allow a nob take it off topic and let this be the last word on you know who [V]

Fingers crossed for the young lad [^]

tricky1992000 Posted on 17/03/2012 20:11
Fabrice Muamba....

best of luck to the lad, [xx(] 10 minutes is a long time to spend not breathing. and the use of defib equipment suggests he was in cardiac arrest.

This is only based on what i have read from the bbc though.

offside-again Posted on 17/03/2012 20:13
Fabrice Muamba....

Sky news just said he is stable now. So thankfully it looks like the worst fears are over. [^]

Wilton Posted on 17/03/2012 20:14
Fabrice Muamba....

Great news come on son!!!!!!!!!!!

Torino Posted on 17/03/2012 20:15
Fabrice Muamba....

In a stable condition. Hope he makes a full recovery[fb]

offside-again Posted on 17/03/2012 20:15
Fabrice Muamba....

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HarryVegas Posted on 17/03/2012 20:15
Fabrice Muamba....

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Revol_Tees Posted on 17/03/2012 20:17
Fabrice Muamba....

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If that's the case, the emergency services and all involved have played a blinder. On the scene in a flash and they stuck with it. Hats off to them and all best wishes to Fabrice Muamba, hope he gets through this.

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 20:17
Fabrice Muamba....

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borobuddah Posted on 17/03/2012 20:18
Fabrice Muamba....

Stable condition is great news but lack of oxygen to the brain can bring terrible damage, all our hopes that the lad recovers fully.

And leave Karl alone, he has a point and your witch hunt does you no credit, lets not act like a load of scousers

offside-again Posted on 17/03/2012 20:18
Fabrice Muamba....

Yup massive credit to the paramedics, outstanding work.[^]

mooghead Posted on 17/03/2012 20:18
Fabrice Muamba....

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dooderooni Posted on 17/03/2012 20:19
Fabrice Muamba....

I hope the lad comes through this without any long term effects.

Good luck son.

Torino Posted on 17/03/2012 20:20
Fabrice Muamba....

Spot on Revol Tees, we dont know how lucky we are in this country to have such a great health service

offside-again Posted on 17/03/2012 20:21
Fabrice Muamba....

Karl may well have a point it's just you get the feeling he enjoys it all a bit too much. Still in fairness he has a point but it's the vibe he gives off, oh well main thing is Fab has some hope now.

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 20:23
Fabrice Muamba....

"If that's the case, the emergency services and all involved have played a blinder"

This is true; chances of surviving an out of hospital cardiac arrest are around 2%.

It helps if there's a medical team on stand by of course, but I thought it ominous when I read that they'd worked on him for 10 mins before leaving the pitch.

Well done indeed to the team involved.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 17/03/2012 20:26
Fabrice Muamba....

Didn't realise the chances of survival were as low as that FH. At least the lad has some hope now they've got him stabilised.

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 20:26
Fabrice Muamba....

GOFL,, get well soon ,[^].

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 20:30
Fabrice Muamba....

That's an estimate of course, I don't think anyone really knows the exact figure.

As I said, it's not quite the same as it just happening in the street as at a match, there are trained people with defibrillators on hand, so the chances are probably better.

The fact he's an otherwise fit young man may improve his chances too.

homesickblues Posted on 17/03/2012 20:33
Fabrice Muamba....

Stable may mean anything in this case. Come on Fabrice.[fb]

tricky1992000 Posted on 17/03/2012 20:34
Fabrice Muamba....

"This is true; chances of surviving an out of hospital cardiac arrest are around 2%."

quick defib is so crucial to survivability, in these matters.

The_Mrs Posted on 17/03/2012 20:48
Fabrice Muamba....

BoroBuddah, I've not got too much medical experience, but I would assume that as he had cardiac massage almost instantaneously and throughout his collapse, then he shouldn't really have suffered from a lack of oxygen and therefore hopefully should limit any damage. I'm hoping so anyway[sad][fb].

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 20:53
Fabrice Muamba....

He's breathing on his own now. [^]

mooghead Posted on 17/03/2012 21:10
Fabrice Muamba....

I hope if nothing else this will get people to want to be defib/first aid trained... also, as an aside.. if you are relatively healthy and not on any sort of medication then why aren't you donating blood? It is an hour once every 3 months so don't tell me you don't have the time. Take the kids anyway.. they love it there!


Free_Subbuteo_171 Posted on 17/03/2012 21:13
Fabrice Muamba....

Fingers crossed he makes a full recovery.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 17/03/2012 21:18
Fabrice Muamba....

I'm not sure what the chances of that are. There's a local running coach who 20-odd years ago was one of the best distance runners round here and had competed at the highest levels of the sport. He went out training once when he was still suffering from a virus and consequently had a heart attack. He survived thanks to the quick thinking of a passing doctor but had to jack in the running.

homesickblues Posted on 17/03/2012 21:19
Fabrice Muamba....

Talksport
'The hospital will make a statement at 9:30 pm this evening'
Fingers crossed.

borolad259 Posted on 17/03/2012 21:31
Fabrice Muamba....

PTCFT...it has long been known that running whilst battling a viral infection can cause heart attack/cardiac arrest. It amazes me how many people still do it.

byrno Posted on 17/03/2012 21:35
Fabrice Muamba....

They are now saying that he is critically ill and in intensive care. Don't think he is out of the woods by any means just yet and the earlier reports of him being stable are perhaps not accurate [|)]

shikaka Posted on 17/03/2012 21:36
Fabrice Muamba....

Latest news is that he's critically ill in the heart attack centre. Hope for the best

Judge_Mental Posted on 17/03/2012 22:21
Fabrice Muamba....

I reckon I'd have run it off, like.

william_falconer Posted on 17/03/2012 22:26
Fabrice Muamba....

[:o)]

Vespa-Scooter Posted on 17/03/2012 22:29
Fabrice Muamba....

Go for a very long run,JM...go on,,..Never stop,,rat.

legz Posted on 17/03/2012 22:33
Fabrice Muamba....

Judge you utter idiot. I lost a good friend a couple of years back, went upstairs to make her young sons bed and never came back down. Wish she had received the superb attention muamba got. Come on fella you can do it, the football family is right behind you every step of the way in your fight

mooghead Posted on 17/03/2012 22:34
Fabrice Muamba....

Forget him, he is XXXXXXed and looking for bites. Don't give him the satisfaction..

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 22:36
Fabrice Muamba....

Over a cliff would be good.

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 22:38
Fabrice Muamba....

"he is critically ill and in intensive care. Don't think he is out of the woods by any means just yet"

I wouldn't be over-alarmed by the terms "critical" and "intensive care".

A patient undergoing routine bypass surgery would be described as critical and in intensive care for the 24 hours or so following their operation, even if everything were going exactly to plan.

I'd be amazed if they moved him out of ITU so soon after this had happened to be honest.

Like you, I wouldn't suggest he's out of the woods yet, but I wouldn't be particulalrly alarmed by the use of these terms.

byrno Posted on 17/03/2012 22:44
Fabrice Muamba....

FrozenHorse - I agree, in the same way that people shouldn't be over alarmed by some of this medical terminology, they also shouldn't assume that words like 'stable' means everything is fine.

r00fie Posted on 17/03/2012 22:55
Fabrice Muamba....

Critically ill - puts all the other crap about todays football in perspective.

william_falconer Posted on 17/03/2012 22:58
Fabrice Muamba....

Roofie [^]

mickbrown Posted on 17/03/2012 23:03
Fabrice Muamba....

All season I've been wanting Coyle to play him more. Wished he hadn't now. That was a terrible couple of hours to be a Bolton fan

sparkins Posted on 17/03/2012 23:09
Fabrice Muamba....

Thouhts with all Bolton fans tonight Mick - thing is if it hadn't been today it would have been another day if he had a defect of some kind.

The thing that amazes me is that with the amount of sports science at professional clubs and the degree of physiological analysis that a player undergoes day in day out and something like this isn't spotted.

Fingers crossed that this has a happy ending.

FrozenHorse Posted on 17/03/2012 23:20
Fabrice Muamba....

"All season I've been wanting Coyle to play him more. Wished he hadn't now"

Whatever casued this, be it viral, congenital or other, I don't think playing today would have made a diffence in the big picture.

Strangely he's lucky that it happened during a match. Would medical assistance have been quite so readily available if this had happened in training for example?

PinkPonce Posted on 17/03/2012 23:20
Fabrice Muamba....

Must have been torture Mick. All the best [^]

Let's hope we wake to good positive news!

PP ... x

Red_Matter Posted on 17/03/2012 23:33
Fabrice Muamba....

Terrible for all folks watching it, whether at the game, on tv, as a Bolton or Spurs fan or if you're a footy fan from another club, family, friends et al. It's time like these where we all come together as a football family and unite in our support for Fabrice.

Also, what Frozen Horse has said. [^]

Cooper6711 Posted on 18/03/2012 00:09
Fabrice Muamba....

I witnessed the same thing right infront of me at leeds festival 2010. One the lads i was camped with just dropped down, he went into cardiac arrest, did cpr, shocked him, banging adreliane bags into him right there inbetween our tents. Was so lucky we were camped near a lookout area because if we'd been anywhere else he'd have died. Was horrendous to see 2 yards infront of you never mind on tv

phil_ostine Posted on 18/03/2012 00:09
Fabrice Muamba....

Just checked Sky Sports News and apparently he's critically ill. To be honest, a bloke at work had a heart attack recently. We got told he was stable and stuff and he ended up dying. Obviously he wasn't a Premiership footballer, but even so. You can only hope for the best in this situation. If he does pull round, what chance does he have of ever playing again? Pretty slim.

hoolio73 Posted on 18/03/2012 00:13
Fabrice Muamba....

Sky sports jumped the gun again then?, was in the pub earlier with it on when they said he was stable. Folk were letting out sighs of relief.


Then i get in to watch ITVs highlight and i've never cringed more then watching that presenter (steve scott, or smith, or something) attempting to discuss the matter.

Strachan may get some shi t off you lot, but he's a decent bloke who coped admirably to express sentiments we all felt, in the face of some highly shyte televisual presenting.

skinBACKtoTHEsack Posted on 18/03/2012 00:17
Fabrice Muamba....

Who gives a XXXXXX if he plays again I just want the lad to live and be ok. Having money and being famous is nothing compared to being healthy.

byrno Posted on 18/03/2012 00:18
Fabrice Muamba....

To be fair I think both Matt Smith and Strachan did well to hold it together considering they were both at the game. The ssn presenters were struggling to tell the story shortly after it happened earlier as well. Must have been difficult.

FrozenHorse Posted on 18/03/2012 00:32
Fabrice Muamba....

"Sky sports jumped the gun again then?, was in the pub earlier with it on when they said he was stable"

Again I'd say don't be too swayed by the terminology.

"Stable" sounds more reassuring than it should.

"Critical" and "intensive" sound more dramatic than they are.

All 3 could be accurately applied to the same patient at any one time.

Red_Matter Posted on 18/03/2012 00:52
Fabrice Muamba....

Frozen Horse - It's all terminology that's hard to get any of our heads around, don't you reckon? Pretty meaningless and confusing to us laypeople although I fully appreciate because of your background that you have a better handle on things. Your explanations are very much appreciated though. [^]

All along this horrendous journey, Fabrice Muamba has received expeditious and outstanding medical care. If he pulls through this, it's because he was in the right place at the right time, surrounded by people who know what to do in dire circumstances such as this.

From the quick-acting officials and the brilliant skills of the paramedics to the equally outstanding ambulance crew and the wonderful folk at the hospital, he has been given every chance to pull through.

All that's left is for us to keep hoping that their combined skills and actions help him to survive these critical hours and from thereon in, to make a full recovery and then go on to live the rest of his life.

23 is far too young an age. [sad]

phil_ostine Posted on 18/03/2012 00:59
Fabrice Muamba....

Terminology is the problem. If you hear that somebody is stable, you think they're going to be alright. Thing is, the first 24/48 hours or so after a heart attack are usually the most important. If you make it through that, you stand a good chance of living.

What it all boils down to in these situations is how long he went with without oxygen. By the looks of things, it wasn't too long. Help was there almost instantly. That will play a massive part in the whole thing.

He'll pull through, I think. Like I say, help was there instantly, so that instantly increases his chances. Only thing is, he might not play again. But saying that, it's better to be alive.

Fingers crossed, anyway.

Red_Matter Posted on 18/03/2012 01:03
Fabrice Muamba....

Aye, medical help was rapidly on hand. I hope you're right with your assessment, Phil. Fingers crossed and all that. [^]

Red_Matter Posted on 18/03/2012 01:05
Fabrice Muamba....

Good article in the Guardian regarding changes to medical rules at footy matches:


Link: Rapid on-pitch medical response

Santos5050 Posted on 18/03/2012 02:40
Fabrice Muamba....

I am very happy that you guys are treating this as seriously as you are. I feared that there would be tons of

monkeyman Posted on 18/03/2012 03:02
Fabrice Muamba....

tons of

PAC79 Posted on 18/03/2012 03:50
Fabrice Muamba....

I hope I speak for every boro FAN when I say our thoughts and wishes are with him. Football is full of rivalries but is one when something like this happens.

For the few d icks who tried trolling, please curl up and die you worthless cnuts.

axel1974 Posted on 18/03/2012 06:36
Fabrice Muamba....

It's a minor miracle that the lad still has a fighting chance. Everything still crossed for him here

HolgateCorner Posted on 18/03/2012 09:23
Fabrice Muamba....

Santos - your post disappointed me, anybody who reads this board would know that the vast majority of posters are very decent people who would wish for nothing but the speedy recovery of Fabrice Muamba.

chimpy07 Posted on 18/03/2012 09:57
Fabrice Muamba....

Some nice comments and points raised.

The situation is, he's critically ill on intensive care, he's very poorly, his chances of a successful recovery will be determined by the extent of the damage done to his heart, thats why the 24/48 hours being critical, I dont mean this the way it might sound but the lad who played for sevilla died 3 days after his on pitch incident [sad]


The terminology is misleading, and causes misinterpretation, but so to does speculating [rle]

Come on Fabrice, God give you strength [^]

Red_Matter Posted on 18/03/2012 13:51
Fabrice Muamba....

The Premier League and the two Clubs, Villa and Bolton have agreed to postpone their League game Tuesday night in the wake of Fabrice's health issues.

Come on Fabrice, you can do this lad! We're all rooting for you!


Link: Get news for Fabrice here - just refresh

Holgatewall Posted on 18/03/2012 14:11
Fabrice Muamba....

Hope all ends well for the lad.

Terrible situation for all concerned and nice to see Spurs and Bolton fans showing the compasionate side of the game.

Both sets of supporters showed the game in a positive light after this terrible event.

joseph99 Posted on 18/03/2012 14:12
Fabrice Muamba....

Is there a disproportionate number of these incidents in professional football compared to other professional sports? Seems to be happening far too frequently in the game.


tricky1992000 Posted on 18/03/2012 14:48
Fabrice Muamba....

"Is there a disproportionate number of these incidents in professional football compared to other professional sports? Seems to be happening far too frequently in the game."




Link: this might be the case

Liamo Posted on 18/03/2012 15:57
Fabrice Muamba....

Doesn't look like it, based on the article, which states:

'no unfavorable effects are evident. [...] Athlete’s Heart is not dangerous for athletes.'

A more likely possible candidate is Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy (the condition Marc-Vivien Foe suffered from) and for which the symptoms are very similar to Athlete's Heart.


Link: Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy

chimpy07 Posted on 18/03/2012 16:06
Fabrice Muamba....

Reports say his heart stopped for 2 hours [:O]

How can that be?? Like somebody mentioned the issue of oxygen starvation to the brain [sad]

Must be agonizing for his immediate family, im not at all a religious person, but there's a prayer to be had tonight.

Get well soon lad

chimpy07 Posted on 18/03/2012 16:08
Fabrice Muamba....

Sorry to double post, ment to add this


Link: Heart stopped for 2 hours

Sunnyman Posted on 18/03/2012 16:09
Fabrice Muamba....

As soon as i saw what happened, i thought HCM could be the cause. This condition runs in my family and I researched it a lot over the years. I finally had the genetic test for it 2 years ago, and thankfully I did not have the faulty gene which can cause HCM, and therefore my children can't be effected. Praying for Fabrice [|)]

FrozenHorse Posted on 18/03/2012 16:14
Fabrice Muamba....

"How can that be?? Like somebody mentioned the issue of oxygen starvation to the brain"

Well CPR and artificial ventialtion are pretty effective methods of circulating oxygen through the body

I guess we won't know how effective it's proved to be until they try to wake him, but it's not impossible for him to escape unscathed.

"As soon as i saw what happened, i thought HCM could be the cause"

I'm a little surprised if it is, because all players undergo a medical when signing for a new club. This usually includes and echo of the heart which would identify problems such as HCM or vlave problems.

borobuddah Posted on 18/03/2012 16:21
Fabrice Muamba....

They will know the most serious case scanario through reflex tests, I know that through having to help decide whether to agree to turn off life support the day after someone hung themselves but initially survived.

chimpy07 Posted on 18/03/2012 16:32
Fabrice Muamba....

[^] Cheers for that forty, and your right mate its a case of time will tell.

An what you've just said just spells out that extent of the miracles performed by the medical crews that treated him throughout.

James75 Posted on 18/03/2012 16:50
Fabrice Muamba....

Being in the medical field - sounds like it was a condition like prolonged qt syndrome. Would have thougth that hocm would have be screened for. Major issue now is if there has been brain damage. He will have been cooled for 24 hrs to reduce this risk. No one will know for at least another 48 hrs and then only bad news. Gonna be a long road for him and hope he pulls through.

FrozenHorse Posted on 18/03/2012 17:04
Fabrice Muamba....

Forty!??????[:O]

marsked_magician Posted on 18/03/2012 17:22
Fabrice Muamba....

"could not get his heart to start beating on its own for almost two hours"

Very misleading. Thats very different from a heart not beating for 2 hours. Its disappointing when the press try to sensationalise awful situations such as this.

He's a strong boy, lets hope he can fight through

Santos5050 Posted on 18/03/2012 18:34
Fabrice Muamba....

It didn't post my full message for some reason, it did finish with the fact that everyone has really rallied around this guy and we have done ourselves proud. Or words to that effect.

Esekiel1517 Posted on 18/03/2012 18:37
Fabrice Muamba....

Very few have gone like this over the years,just say a prayer.


ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 18/03/2012 18:52
Fabrice Muamba....

That wikipedia article is a bit scarey. My resting heart-rate when I'm at my fittest is low-40s (it's about mid-40s at the moment but depending on the time of day and what I've been doing, it can go as high as low 50s). I also experienced a bit of dizziness during rest periods at the end of interval sessions with my athletics club. The doctor attributed the dizzy bouts to something called labyrinthitis.

rufus4 Posted on 18/03/2012 18:58
Fabrice Muamba....

I had a Heart attack at work and luckily because of the care and skill of the ParaMedics and James Cook Coronary Care Unit I survived.So I hope that Fabrice pulls through and makes a good recovery,GET WELL SOON LAD.[^][^]

chimpy07 Posted on 19/03/2012 16:18
Fabrice Muamba....

FH sorry for calling you Forty [:D]

Latest joint statements from hospital and club say there's small signs of improvement, movement of arms and legs and heart beating without the aid of drugs, its fantastic news, although he's still critical and its still very early, good to hear small positives [^]


Link: latest

painfullyboro Posted on 19/03/2012 16:22
Fabrice Muamba....

Fantastic news , keep fighting fella [^]

newyddion Posted on 19/03/2012 16:33
Fabrice Muamba....

is there a chance he will play again?

painfullyboro Posted on 19/03/2012 16:35
Fabrice Muamba....

very much doubt it , not much chance he will ever be the same againe after loss of oxgene to his brain , plus the ongoing heart condition [sad]

manhead Posted on 19/03/2012 16:40
Fabrice Muamba....

I have cardiomyopathy, as does my older bro and a few of my cousins. Basically my left ventricule is a bit too thick and a bit wonky or sumtjing.Mine went unnoticed for a long time cos I was mega fit from boxing. Had a nasty episode last Xmas but other than that I wouldn't know I had it- apart from having a low pulse rate and the odd flutter.


Dibzzz Posted on 19/03/2012 17:40
Fabrice Muamba....

I know loads of people up at Freeman who had cardiomyothipathy, they all had transplants.

Tuncaythefunguy Posted on 19/03/2012 17:42
Fabrice Muamba....

No one will ever know at this point. As long as he makes a recovery to live a life again without to much damage. They just have to support his major organs at the moment as is heart recovers.

Praying his Brain will be ok.

London_Boro Posted on 19/03/2012 17:56
Fabrice Muamba....

Seems he's doing a bit better.

reported as moving arms and legs now and has been speaking!

[^]

Come on lad!!!!!


Link: Improvement

Muttley Posted on 19/03/2012 18:19
Fabrice Muamba....

Positive news, come on lad. Long way to go yet but let's hope it's the first small step.

Esekiel1517 Posted on 19/03/2012 18:21
Fabrice Muamba....

Really hope the kid pulls through...

rob_fmttm Posted on 19/03/2012 18:24
Fabrice Muamba....

Very good news indeed. A friend of mine had a massive heart attack a couple of weeks ago. He was sedated for nearly a week until his body could handle breathing unaided. Then at the end of the week he came round and improved so quickly he was discharged home and was posting on facebook again in no time at all.

Fingers crossed for Fabrice.

FrozenHorse Posted on 19/03/2012 18:37
Fabrice Muamba....

I'd be surprised if it were cardiomyopathy.

When footballers have medicals, it usually includes an echo of the heart.

If it were cardiomyopathy I would have expected it to show up at this point, along with any other structural abnormality.


Red_Matter Posted on 19/03/2012 18:44
Fabrice Muamba....

This is truly wonderful news that Fabrice has been able to talk some! Thanks for sharing that link, LB. [^] I know it's important not to get our hopes up as his condition is still critical but one small step at a time in the right direction and all that.

Red_Matter Posted on 19/03/2012 19:56
Fabrice Muamba....

Curtis Codrington, a close friend of Fabrice has just confirmed that he has hugged and kissed his mate and they shared a joke or two about their friend, Chris Samba, also from the DR of Congo.

Fantastic news!


Link: @curtis_dynasty

Red_Matter Posted on 19/03/2012 20:30
Fabrice Muamba....

[^]


Link: Fabrice goal compilation in tribute to a fighter!

legz Posted on 19/03/2012 20:58
Fabrice Muamba....

I know its very early days yet but its encouraging to hear only good reports about Fabrice today. Keep it going fella [^]

StarPlayer Posted on 19/03/2012 21:29
Fabrice Muamba....

Early days but definitely going the right way. I am sure it has been stated somewhere in the thread but today I have heard on the news how fantastic the fans have been, how good tottenham were and how the doctors at the hospital are doing everything possible.
Can I just publically commend the paramedics on their quick actions with the defib, cos without that he would have been dead now.
Keep fighting son.