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Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 12:28
"kids tickets" why pay full price???

Despite being 33 years old, I purchased a under 18 ticket for the boxing day game.
Saved me about a Tenner which I will put towards my under 18 ticket for new years eve game....

2 games for pretty much the price of one[^]

Some of the lads I go to the matches with slated me for this. They said I was ripping the club off??

Some of the other lads understood that doing it this way, I could afford to go to both games.

Either way, still handing more money over to the club, buying beers etc that I would not have been buying had I only went to one match, so it probably works out they get more money out of me in the long run.....

Would you agree with my mates who say I am ripping the club off??
Or do you agree with me??

peterkay Posted on 28/12/2011 12:38
stealing

do you also shoplift as your other hobby[V]

Moggas_Mules Posted on 28/12/2011 12:38
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You shouldnt do it, but I dont blame you for doing it.


BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 12:42
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Each to their own I suppose but I can't help thinking you're actually ripping off Gibbo & Mogga in the process [|)]

Dynamo Posted on 28/12/2011 12:43
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For the first time in ages there was a steward at the Hull match on the turnstile where I enter the ground to check that it was only kids and OAP's who used the consessionary tickets. I don't know if you've noticed it, but when an adult ticket is used, just a green light flashes, but when a kids or OAP's ticket is used, a yellow and a green light flashes. Maybe you were lucky to get away with it on Monday and you might get away with it again on Saturday, but then again you might not. [:O]

bill_door Posted on 28/12/2011 12:46
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Understand why you'd do it but I don't agree with it - don't particularly care enough to have a go though.

Saying that, if you got caught I'd like to think you'd accept it and not starting complaining.

Also beware big Scottish blokes, apparently they'd be perfectly within their rights to assault you.[^]

stevie-g888 Posted on 28/12/2011 12:49
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Not very economical if you pay for a kids ticket and can't get in[:O]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 12:54
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Stealing is going a bit far mate.
I am still paying a price for a service, all be it not the full price.

Yeah dynamo, I know about the different coloured lights, and maybe I won't get away with it all of the time, but if it gets me to more matches, I am happy to try it with a clear conscience...

I see enough posts on this board complaining about lads watching the match on line or in the pub, surely what I am doing is supporting the club still?

It's not like I'm taking up a seat which could have been reserved for a full paying adult, there are no shortage of empty seats.

Would the club prefer me to pay half price, and extra on refreshments, or for me not to go at all?

No brainer for me[^]

bill_door Posted on 28/12/2011 13:06
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Saying that, if you're buying beers then why not just buy a proper ticket and then not have a drink?

Buying beers kind of takes away from the 'I can't afford it' line.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 13:16
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It's a good point bill, but having a drink is part and parcel of going to the match..
All my mates drink at the game, would feel like an outcast not having a few.
Don't think I have been to a game without having a few since I was 18...

That said, 2 junior tickets and two or three pints is still cheaper than 2 full price tickets.

If I ever get Sussed, I would just tell the friendly stewards that the ticket was for my younger brother who can't make it, I didn't want the ticket to go to waste, and will gladly pay the mark up

block_4_Eastender Posted on 28/12/2011 13:17
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I'm sure there's an offence in there somewhere and you are risking a court appearance or an assault from a big Scottish as mentioned earlier

BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 13:20
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Are your 'reduced circumstances' a recent thing Teddy or have you buying kids tickets since you were 18?

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 13:25
.Leave the 2 bob bloke alone.

Leave him alone, that's how he is, that's how he was brought up.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 13:30
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Recent thing borofur.
Wanted to go to both games over the festive period, this helped me to do it, without ruining my matchday experience.

Regarding the comment about a possible court appearance block_4. Surely not. I'm not exactly the middlesbrough equivalent of raul moat, just saving myself a few quid whilst going to watch a team in need of support

BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 13:32
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Showcase Cinema is in need of support too Teddy, do you buy kids tickets there as well?

Barnsy Posted on 28/12/2011 13:35
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Is it possible that when setting the match day prices that the club takes into account that there will be some adults playing the system and so kids prices aren't as low as they could be?

Red_Matter Posted on 28/12/2011 13:39
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Be a man Teddy and pay your way. If you can't always go because you don't have the cash, don't go. The beer issue is also a clear indication that you could go to more games than you realise if you simply made some basic sacrifices. Just my view and not meant to offend you in any way. [^]

BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 13:40
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I think my son's season ticket cost 90 Barnsy. I'm not sure how much cheaper the club could price kids tickets at.

block_4_Eastender Posted on 28/12/2011 13:40
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I know your not killing anyone, I'm just pointing out the worst case scenario for you so that you make a completely informed decision.

Barnsy Posted on 28/12/2011 13:41
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Fur point[^]

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 13:42
Old Clothes

You often wonder where all the old clothes go when they are collected..now you know[:D]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 13:47
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Borofur, of course I don't pay half price at the cinema. 2 reasons.
1. They actually check the tickets when going in so I wouldn't get away with it
2. They don't charge the best part of 30 quid for an adult ticket.

Red matter. not having a beer at the game is more than a basic sacrifice

Red shamrock[:D]

BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 13:53
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I think Teddy's on a wind-up and hoping for a ton here[;)]

Pauluka Posted on 28/12/2011 13:58
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For what its worth I think you deserve to be killed for what you're doing. Hanging maybe, or even shot

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 14:09
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No not on a wind up borofur.
Only brought the subject up cos a few of the lads I went to the match with got on their high horses about it on boxing day, where as a few others agreed with me.
Just thought I would gauge opinions on here.

Would you not agree its more beneficial to the club that I am going and paying to fill one of the empty seats

Pauluka Posted on 28/12/2011 14:13
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It would be more beneficial if you jumped of the tranny bridge wearing an 'I'm sorry' t-shirt

stedontsurf Posted on 28/12/2011 14:15
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Teddy_Wong - where were you sat if you don't mind me asking.

I heard a group of lads giving someone stick for this at the match.. wonder if you're the same guy.

BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 14:17
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The club need to come up with their own strategy for filling the stadium but at the same time be sensitive in respect of season ticket holders who've stumped up the cash up-front.

Personally I'm all for the club introducing special offers whilst embracing season ticket holders at the same time. A few years ago I remember they came up with a deal where season ticket holders could buy an additional two tickets for 20 for selected games.

This allowed fans to attend who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to and without alienating season ticket holders.

I might be wrong Teddy but I get the feeling that you could afford to pay the full (correct) price and still manage a few pints and a pie............but you choose not to.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 14:29
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Pauluka - I might consider that after I have been to the peterborough game, don't want to waste my money on the ticket!

SteDontSurf - I was in the north stand, but I didn't tell the lads I was with until we were in the boozer after the game because I realised they might have found this a bit controversial.
That said, I'm glad to hear there are fellow boro fans clued up enough to do the same thing (providing the fan in question turns up New Years Eve)

BoroFur
Yes, I could have afforded to pay the full price, and have some beers etc, however, I would not have been able to afford going to both games paying full price with beers etc.
I want to go to both games, and still enjoy all that goes with it

B-MAN Posted on 28/12/2011 14:37
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Im undecided really - maybe you have a point but only assuming the club care whether youre there or not. The "well im there for two games" stance is rather selfish, but no different to anyone on here who downloads cds and films for free on the premise that if they had to pay they wouldnt have bothered(something Ive done and Im sure a lot of the good folk of fmttm will have done as well).
If you are being genuine in saying if purchasing full price youd only be able to go to one of the games then Id probably say fair play, take your chance, if you get caught out, got banned from the ground etc then you can have no complaints - if you dont then fine. The system is open to abuse, Im not one to do that but then I guess I'm lucky in that I can afford a season ticket. Enjoy the game!

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 14:42
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Cheers B-Man. Your analogy comparing it with illegal downloads is a good one.
You are right, if I get caught and banned from the ground, I cannot (and would not) complain.

Your right about affording a season ticket, and if I could, I would do so in a shot (for both me and my boy, would get expensive unless we both got junior season tickets, which is too risky[:D][:D])

I sense the people who are not happy with me pulling such a stunt, are more than likely season ticket holders, who have paid full price, which I can understand their viewpoint...

Each to their own I suppose[^]

BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 14:56
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I think this season more than any other Boro fans have come to realise just what a precarious position the club is in financially.

The club have had to make loyal, low paid staff redundant and I've seen from 1st hand experience how hard they are trying to maximise revenue whilst at the same time making the whole matchday experience affordable to the average fan.

Me and the youngster both have season tickets however I'm not rich and have had to make sacrifices along the way.

My personal view is if you can afford to pay the match ticket price, do so. At the end of the day its the club that suffers, our club.

Would I shop somebody who I knew was taking advantage? Probably not. The same as I wouldn't shop a benefit cheat who was screwing the system. It's all about what you see when you look in the mirror.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:08
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I don't know boro fur, I think I would shop a benefit cheat.

I don't think that can be used as an analogy, two completely different things for me.

My argument is, I am still handing over my money to the club, just not the amount the club think is a "reasonable" amount to charge.
I would disagree that our club suffers, quite the opposite actually.

They would suffer more financially (all be it only by a tenner or so) if I choose to go to the boozer and spend my money over the bar whilst watching the scores come in and just go to 1 match, rather than go to 2 matches.

So the club are getting marginally more money me doing this my way - they are happy?

I am getting to go to both matches. I am happy

The attendance is up by 1 person for the New Years Eve game - which should keep some people happy on here who love a whinge about attendances

Everyone's a winner in my eyes.



stan007 Posted on 28/12/2011 15:15
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stealing!!! nope that is the clubs beer prices and admission charges!!

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 28/12/2011 15:22
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"My argument is, I am still handing over my money to the club, just not the amount the club think is a "reasonable" amount to charge."

An interesting viewpoint - I would quite like a Porsche, but at nearly 110k the one I want is overpriced in my opinion. By this rationale I could get one much cheaper?


Banned Posted on 28/12/2011 15:25
stealing

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I'm glad to hear there are fellow boro fans clued up enough to do the same thing
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It isn't clued up at all, it's dishonest, it's theft of a sort

oooooo Posted on 28/12/2011 15:39
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Some might say it is ripping the club off but I think that the club has ripped off every single fan they have sold a ticket to ever since players wages went crazy.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:39
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Jonny - you have got me stumped with that one fella. Sounds like a tricky predicament[:D]

Banned - I fail to see the link between paying for a ticket, and thieving.
I prefer to look at it that I have found a flaw in the system if you like.
You can now print off your tickets online, so no questions asked when a 33 year old bloke buys an under 18 ticket.
The stewards who are paid to man the turnstiles are not doing there job properly and allowing this to happen???

Whilst these flaws can be exploited, people will do so, especially in hard times, would you not agree?

Certainly not theft. No court in the land would convict me of stealing (not that it would get that far)[^]

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 15:41
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Most on here rob something or other,you just go ahead Teddy take no notice.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:42
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"Some might say it is ripping the club off but I think that the club has ripped off every single fan they have sold a ticket to ever since players wages went crazy"

Could not agree more ooooooo

I cannot believe more people do not have this attitude.[^]

peterkay Posted on 28/12/2011 15:43
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teddy 38 comments on...and you are still trying to justify stealing...how do you manage to lie straight at night pinocchio[:O][^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:45
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"Most on here rob something or other,you just go ahead Teddy take no notice"

Cheers Red Shamrock. Especially downloading games, movies, and music.
Its all theft, the only difference is I am not stealing it, I am actually paying for it, and better still, can show the appropriate authorities the receipts.
As I said earlier, not a court in the land would convict me[^]

Juno Posted on 28/12/2011 15:47
stealing

It's not something I would do but I'm not going to slate you for it, an extra body and voice at the game can only be a good thing, regardless of how much they have paid.

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 15:47
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You have my permission to do it now.

rufus4 Posted on 28/12/2011 15:47
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You are right you wouldn't get charged with theft,but you would get charged with obtaining goods and/or services by deception which is a criminal matter.
P.S hope you don't get caught.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:48
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"teddy 38 comments on...and you are still trying to justify stealing...how do you manage to lie straight at night pinocchio"

not sure where you are going with that one fella.
I am not trying to justify stealing.
You will find if you look through the thread some people agree with me (although not as many who don't)[^]

peterkay Posted on 28/12/2011 15:48
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Everyone's a winner in my eyes.[:o)][xx(]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:50
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"It's not something I would do but I'm not going to slate you for it, an extra body and voice at the game can only be a good thing, regardless of how much they have paid"

Juno, my sentiments exactly.
I am doing this for the right reasons, which a lot of people can't seem to see for some reason known only to themselves[^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:52
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"You are right you wouldn't get charged with theft,but you would get charged with obtaining goods and/or services by deception which is a criminal matter.
P.S hope you don't get caught"

rufus4 - Even if I said the ticket was for my younger (under 18) brother who could not make it, didn't want the ticket to go to waste, and I am happy to pay the mark up??
Surely not?[V]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 15:54
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Red Shamrock - Thanks for your permission[:D]

PeterKay. When I said everyones a winner which you quoted, you forgot to quote the reasons why I believe everyone is a winner, which are:-

"So the club are getting marginally more money me doing this my way - they are happy?

I am getting to go to both matches. I am happy

The attendance is up by 1 person for the New Years Eve game - which should keep some people happy on here who love a whinge about attendances"

Now you tell me, who is not winning in this scenario?[^]

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 15:56
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I'm not a bad judge and if you were in my court id sentence you to 3 seasons watching us.

BoroFur Posted on 28/12/2011 16:04
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If it was all about affordability Teddy I suspect I'd have a modicum of sympathy for your position. But clearly you can afford to pay the junior price, have at least a couple of pints at the ground then a couple of pints in the boozer afterwards. It also appears that you have braced yourself for getting pulled by a steward and have a ready-made excuse lined up.

I would hazard a guess that gaining entry to football matches without paying the standard tariff isn't the only little deception you get involved in.

But hey ho, as you say, each to their own[^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 16:05
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"I'm not a bad judge and if you were in my court id sentence you to 3 seasons watching us."

To which I would plead with your honour that them 3 seasons are at kids prices, just so I could keep some expendable money for beers, bets, and Boro Balti's!

peterkay Posted on 28/12/2011 16:08
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teddy if every club had fans like you the game would be finished stop trying to justify thieving, clubs need very penny they can get. I bet you are one of the first ones demanding gibson buys new players but then dips his back pocket. I for one hope you get pulled next time.

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 16:09
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[:D]If you drink that horse widdle you can have it free. I paid 2.70 for a pie that's old enough to pay full price.

reverb64 Posted on 28/12/2011 16:14
.stealing

you have just ensured that stewards will be
checking on Saturday .
Enjoy your day in court for theft / fraud.[^]

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 16:15
.stealing

They couldn't catch a cold them Stewards,they have the brains of a dead bird.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 16:17
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BoroFur - Of course I have got an excuse lined up already. Just as well really, seen as some on here reckon I might get a court appearance if rumbled[:D]

And your "guess that gaining entry to football matches without paying the standard tariff isn't the only little deception you get involved in" could not be any further from the truth.

I am a law abiding citizen, I even purchase any Movies or CD's in their original format.
I dont steal these like I dare say a good few on here do (mainly because I have a large collection, and dont want to spoil it with any dodgy downloads)

I do know the difference between right and wrong, just don't see how I am doing much wrong here??
Ok maybe morally in some peoples eyes, but not exactly crime of the century..[^]


reverb64 Posted on 28/12/2011 16:20
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pay the price of an adult or stay away.

btw you know you are "doing wrong."

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 16:21
.stealing

"you have just ensured that stewards will be
checking on Saturday .
Enjoy your day in court for theft / fraud"

Sorry fella, maybe you have not read the whole thread. Let me fill you in.
IF I get sussed, I will say the ticket was for my younger brother, genuine mistake Mr High Vis Jacket, please allow me to pay the mark up.

Worst case scenario, they take the ticket off me and tell me to do one.
Best case scenario, they let me pay the mark up and enjoy the game

NOT HAPPENING SCENARIO - Teddy ends up in court after spending a night in the clink, come on lads, you surely can all see that this will NOT happen[^]

oooooo Posted on 28/12/2011 16:24
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"clubs need very penny they can get"

No they don't. They've had MILLIONS and MILLIONS straight out of the pockets of people like you and me who have seen NONE of the benefits of it. You get a XXXXXXty plastic chair you've got to stay seated in, you can't be trusted to drink a rank horrible pint of beer in it and if you could just pay up, shut up and then XXXXXX right off that'll do the club nicely.

They hate the fans, have paid little more than lip service to them over the years while they bled the cash cow dry and now they need more money.

Hundreds of millions have been funneled through that club and many others like it but there's never been any real will to stop the madness that is football finances but still, he's a thief according to some.

14 for a kid's ticket - what kids can afford that? Utter madness.

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 16:24
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Its OK you wont get caught and them Stewards (Bog Whoppets) will never catch you, I saw one arguing with a road cone.

ste_north_stand Posted on 28/12/2011 16:26
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There was a steward stood on our turnstile but he seemed to be paying no attention to what was going on with the lights. I noticed the light didn't work anyway on the turnstile i went in anyway as i was waiting for my mates to come through.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 16:27
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"teddy if every club had fans like you the game would be finished stop trying to justify thieving, clubs need very penny they can get. I bet you are one of the first ones demanding gibson buys new players but then dips his back pocket. I for one hope you get pulled next time."

Peter, every club does have fans like me, I guarantee you.
The fans clubs should be worried about are the fans that stay away completely, stream the match online, instead of using their initiative and going to the match for half the price.

If you ask a businessman (lets say Steve Gibson seeing as you brought him up)
If he would like 15 to go into his bank account, or nothing, I guarantee most businessman would say "Thanks Teddy, think I will take you up on that offer of 15"

Imagine I went onto Dragons den and said, I can make 15, or nothing??

Duncan Bannatyne would be tempted to smack me one[:D][^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 16:29
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"Its OK you wont get caught and them Stewards (Bog Whoppets) will never catch you, I saw one arguing with a road cone."

[:D][:D][^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 16:35
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pay the price of an adult or stay away.

btw you know you are "doing wrong."

Reverb, I hope you never moan about attendances, telling people to stay away.
I also hope you don't run a business yourself, you will not last 2 minutes with that attitude..

reverb64 Posted on 28/12/2011 16:51
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.....and if you run a business Teddy do you
rip people off ? Most likely sir.

phantomfarterthesecond Posted on 28/12/2011 16:52
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so nobody ever a squeeze at ayrsome park eh at the turnstiles i mean

stan007 Posted on 28/12/2011 16:54
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No they don't. They've had MILLIONS and MILLIONS straight out of the pockets of people like you and me who have seen NONE of the benefits of it. You get a XXXXXXty plastic chair you've got to stay seated in, you can't be trusted to drink a rank horrible pint of beer in it and if you could just pay up, shut up and then XXXXXX right off that'll do the club nicely.

They hate the fans, have paid little more than lip service to them over the years while they bled the cash cow dry and now they need more money.

Hundreds of millions have been funneled through that club and many others like it but there's never been any real will to stop the madness that is football finances but still, he's a thief according to some.

14 for a kid's ticket - what kids can afford that? Utter madness[^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^]

Forzagazza Posted on 28/12/2011 16:55
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You are obviously a self obsessed, selfish little w*nker who thinks he's clever ripping off the club and everyone paying full price to subsidise you. Do us all a favour and don't bother turning up at all you immature tosspot.

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 16:57
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[:D][:D][:D]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 16:59
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"so nobody ever a squeeze at ayrsome park eh at the turnstiles i mean"

Spot on, if it could still be done, it would be.
People have always looked for ways to beat the system, no different these days[^]

coluka Posted on 28/12/2011 17:04
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I suspect this to be a wind up however, in the event that there is any truth in it I would just like to say that it is fraud. if you are stopped it will be after you have used it, thereby committing the act willfully.

I sincerely hope that you and people like you who claim to support the club, but are also happy to defraud the club are discovered, rounded up, placed before the courts, locked in jail and left to rot in hell for all eternity [:O]

ste_north_stand Posted on 28/12/2011 17:05
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If i paid full price and someone else didn't then i couldn't care less to be fair. More important things to worry about.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 17:08
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"You are obviously a self obsessed, selfish little w*nker who thinks he's clever ripping off the club and everyone paying full price to subsidise you. Do us all a favour and don't bother turning up at all you immature tosspot"

Wow!! where did that come from!
Lets analyze your rant:-

"You are obviously a self obsessed" - Not once in my life has anyone called me self obsessed. I am quite happy that this is not the case

"little w*nker" - yeah has been said before I will give you that, but not since school - junior school at that. People and language skills have advanced since then

"thinks he's clever ripping off the club and everyone paying full price" - Dont see how Im ripping off the club, they are getting more money out of me? A few people have said that now but no one has been able to come up with an explanation. Theres a theme developing here

"Do us all a favour and don't bother turning up at all"
I'm sure you don't speak for "us all", and again, would not want you in charge of my business telling people not to bother turning up

"you immature tosspot" Again, not been said to me since school...

You have contributed the total of f*ck all to this adult debate.
So much anger[|)][|)][|)]

Try constructing a well thought out and balanced point next time, ok son?[V]

HarryBasset Posted on 28/12/2011 17:11
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I wonder if there could be a liability issue here. In the event of a mishap/injury to a spectator where the club could be found liable, if someone had gained entry in this way would any damages be reduced or withheld entirely?

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 17:12
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"I suspect this to be a wind up however, in the event that there is any truth in it I would just like to say that it is fraud. if you are stopped it will be after you have used it, thereby committing the act willfully.

I sincerely hope that you and people like you who claim to support the club, but are also happy to defraud the club are discovered, rounded up, placed before the courts, locked in jail and left to rot in hell for all eternity"

No wind up.
Again, I am sure it will not be placed before the courts. I have never been convicted of anything in my life, and I would stick to the story it was my little brothers ticket.
Law abiding citizen, just wanting to go to a couple of football matches[^]
The CPS would laugh their heads off if this was ever passed to them

phantomfarterthesecond Posted on 28/12/2011 17:17
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wonder if mr amer ever defrauded club corluka eh

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 17:17
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"I wonder if there could be a liability issue here. In the event of a mishap/injury to a spectator where the club could be found liable, if someone had gained entry in this way would any damages be reduced or withheld entirely?"

Possibly I suppose....
I will still take my chances, but that is the best reason anyone has come up with not to do it![^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 17:18
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"If i paid full price and someone else didn't then i couldn't care less to be fair. More important things to worry about"

Likewise Ste[^]

mooseboro Posted on 28/12/2011 17:18
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like you say teddy wong everybody has either had a squeeze in the old ayresome days or used a cheaper ticket to get in .if you can get away with it good luck to you,ive done the same myself i can remember oldham in the eighties 2.50 for u16s ticket insteadof a tenner no one bothered

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 17:23
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"like you say teddy wong everybody has either had a squeeze in the old ayresome days or used a cheaper ticket to get in .if you can get away with it good luck to you,ive done the same myself i can remember oldham in the eighties 2.50 for u16s ticket insteadof a tenner no one bothered"

Spot on Mooseboro. Its good to know there are like minded people on here[^]

gravyboat Posted on 28/12/2011 17:23
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My considered contribution is that I don't care.

peterkay Posted on 28/12/2011 17:34
.stealing

another free loader on the back of every genuine fan[:X][^]

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 17:38
.stealing

I thought you just watched it on telly Pete.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 17:53
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Is that so Pete?
You don't even go to the games?
The way you have been banging on I assumed you must have been on the board at mfc.
Or at the very least a season ticket holder.
If its a financial thing and you can't make it, just follow my blueprint described in this thread[^]

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 18:23
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Hes a Man Utd TV fan

coluka Posted on 28/12/2011 18:24
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I have just run this past my sisters husband who works for .... wait for it .... The Crown Prosecution Service - I am reliably informed that if used knowingly to gain entry and then arrested by the police (that is an If, as I accept the stewards may just hoik you out) but If arrested the CPS would likely accept you knew you had an incorrect ticket and were deliberately trying to commit a case of fraud. Alternatively the club could charge you with civil fraud too - either way you are cooked if discovered [^]

oooooo Posted on 28/12/2011 18:28
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That prosecution really sounds like it is in the public interest.

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 18:29
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Don`t worry they will never catch you and the CPS are gormless anyhow.Bugger these lot.

peterkay Posted on 28/12/2011 18:32
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Teddy I like people to pay their way in life[;)]..well done you've nearly got 100 replies[xx(][:o)]

ollydog Posted on 28/12/2011 18:34
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consuming rather than supporting

coluka Posted on 28/12/2011 18:36
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It is clearly in the public interest as to allow people to behave like that and go unpunished is not in the interest of our society that we all live in To not punish a crime is in effect to say its ok to commit the crime yer numpty [:D]

ghostfox Posted on 28/12/2011 18:38
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Personally speaking, I'd rather you didn't go than rip my club off.
You obviously need the money so spare us your tenner and use it for your family.
And when no big name player is signed because we can't afford his wages, please don't ridicule yourself by moaning about it.
I believe Darlington need more fans, perhaps you and your like could f off there

oooooo Posted on 28/12/2011 18:41
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"And when no big name player is signed because we can't afford his wages, please don't ridicule yourself by moaning about it."

That's the problem. Some football player needs to be made into a millionaire along with his agent and it's the job of ordinary people who weigh up how they can make a tenner go a bit further and suit them for a change.

ThePrisoner Posted on 28/12/2011 18:42
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Every time an adult uses a kid's ticket a kitten dies. FACT.

Can you deal with that? Can you?


[:P]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 18:43
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Cheers coluka.
As you say its a pretty big if.
I am sure it won't go that far. Especially seeing as my alabi will be water tight, and I will be nothing but charming and polite to the stewards if questioned.
Thanks for the info though, its always good to be one step ahead.
Especially when planning such high end crimes![^]

red_shamrock Posted on 28/12/2011 18:45
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I think the lad is being honest and paying what he can afford and having a few pints to boot.OK he`s the running a risk of getting nabbed that's up to him.
How many of you chinless buggers have had a freebie in corporate but haven't declared it?

BoroAl Posted on 28/12/2011 18:48
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OK I'll go for

BoroAl Posted on 28/12/2011 18:48
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the 100th post

oooooo Posted on 28/12/2011 18:49
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"It is clearly in the public interest as to allow people to behave like that and go unpunished is not in the interest of our society that we all live in To not punish a crime is in effect to say its ok to commit the crime yer numpty"

The CPS choose not to prosecute every day on far more 'important' crimes. Funnily enough, they cite it not being in the 'public interest' but I seriously DOUBT they are considering the fabric of society when they do so.

PAULIEJ Posted on 28/12/2011 19:01
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Fair play to you Teddy and my god some people must lead very sad lives if they think this will ever be punishable in a court of law FFS. I would say it is a chink in the system or a way around paying full whack.I have used a kids ticket before now and will do again in the future if the opportunity arises. I have followed the Boro home and away for nigh on 40 years and they have certainly had their pound of flesh out of me. I have also paid full whack for tickets at home about three times this season as I am often offered tickets belonging to corporate or people who cannot make the game.If I can get in cheaper I will and without a second thought of maybe ripping my club off. People need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:16
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"Personally speaking, I'd rather you didn't go than rip my club off.
You obviously need the money so spare us your tenner and use it for your family.
And when no big name player is signed because we can't afford his wages, please don't ridicule yourself by moaning about it.
I believe Darlington need more fans, perhaps you and your like could f off there"

Yes I do need the money ghostfox, hence paying half price instead of full price.
Not exactly degree level economics is it mate[^]

I will never moan about no big players signing up. Times are hard, we can't afford players like we used to.
In fact, I think Gibbo could empathise with what I am doing. Value for money and all that. Seems to be the way the club is being run in these harsh times[^]

Finally, why would I go to darlo? Do they do a cheaper kids ticket[:D]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:21
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Cheers PaulieJ.
If all posters said it was wrong of me to do this, I might think "they can't all be wrong"
Enough people have come out a said they agree with me for me to justify this.
Again, good to know there are like minded people, just as I thought there would be[^]

As you say, god knows how much money the club have had out of the fans down the years.
They are still getting it from me now, just not as much as they used to.

Doesn't stop me supporting them[^]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 28/12/2011 19:21
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Why don't you just pay the going rate like the rest of us? I've paid full whack for my ticket as will the person sat next to you. What if the person next to you at the bar was charged half price for their beer? Aside from ripping of Boro by getting to see 2 games when you've effectively only paid for 1, you're taking the mick out of the rest of us who have paid the full price.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:23
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"That's the problem. Some football player needs to be made into a millionaire along with his agent and it's the job of ordinary people who weigh up how they can make a tenner go a bit further and suit them for a change"

Again, spot on oooooo[^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:25
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"Why don't you just pay the going rate like the rest of us? I've paid full whack for my ticket as will the person sat next to you. What if the person next to you at the bar was charged half price for their beer? Aside from ripping of Boro by getting to see 2 games when you've effectively only paid for 1, you're taking the mick out of the rest of us who have paid the full price."

Why am I ripping the boro off PTCFT?
They are still getting money from me aren't they?
Its sort of like getting a holiday on a cheap deal. The person on the next sunbed might have paid twice the amount.
Is that your fault, or their's???


We_Shall_overcome Posted on 28/12/2011 19:30
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good luck to you mate,i wish i had the arse to do it

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 28/12/2011 19:39
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Because you're paying less than you should be and doing it under false pretences. As I said, apart from that you're taking the mick out of those who are prepared to pay the full price.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:46
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"Because you're paying less than you should be and doing it under false pretences. As I said, apart from that you're taking the mick out of those who are prepared to pay the full price."

Maybe its the club taking the mick out of the fans prepared to pay full price??
Everyone always banging on about why attendances are so low.
Perhaps the price has something to do with it maybe??

I dont feel I am taking the mick out of anyone, as I have said a number of times, the club are getting my money, I am watching the game, an extra person in attendance.

I run the risk of getting collared.

Its your classic risk / reward scenario.

I am risking getting in on a kids ticket, and being rewarded with watching the game on the cheap.
Not taking the mick out of anyone, as everyone could do the same.

They choose not too, which is fair enough.[^]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 28/12/2011 19:48
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Well, if you've any conviction in that argument, go to the ticket office next week and ask for two junior tickets, saying that it will mean that you'll be putting more money into MFC's coffers. If they go along with it, I'll take back all I said.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:50
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"Well, if you've any conviction in that argument, go to the ticket office next week and ask for two junior tickets, saying that it will mean that you'll be putting more money into MFC's coffers. If they go along with it, I'll take back all I said."

Do you mean two junior tickets for two seperate games??

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 28/12/2011 19:52
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Yes, for the next two home games and state explicitly that they are for your good self.

ron_manager Posted on 28/12/2011 19:53
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I'd love to be there when you are finally caught out...oh the shame and embarrassment you will feel would be hilarious to see.[:D]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:55
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If I state explicitly they are for myself, there is no way they will go with it.
And why would should they?

If you were allowed to do it, everyone would do it wouldn't they.
No one would ever pay full price

I am being rewarded for the risk I am taking.
[^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 19:58
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"I'd love to be there when you are finally caught out...oh the shame and embarrassment you will feel would be hilarious to see"

The shame and the embarrassment?

Its not like I would have been caught watching porn with my pants round my ankles with a roll of kleenex in my hand by the Mrs now is it??
Hardly any shame and embarrassment?

If I felt shame and embarrassment I would not do it.

Shame and embarrassment! That's beauty[^][^][^]

The_same_as_before Posted on 28/12/2011 20:02
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If the lad gets away with it sobeit. Anyone for a squeeze?

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 28/12/2011 20:03
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Yeah, XXXXXX em. It's just a tenner less towards some average players next Ferrari. Getting in for kids prices is a scam. So are half of the things that go on in the free Market. Football is just one of the more obvious examples.
Spent Bryan Robsons first season paying 3 to get in the east end seats when I was a year or two too old meself.
As long as you support the team, instead of sitting there in silence.

Hancc Posted on 28/12/2011 20:05
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I don't think it is stealing, but it is fraud.

But perhaps the most stupid thing was to go bragging about it online, if the club had any sense whatsoever they'd be upping the amount of checks for kids tickets next home game and catching those who are cheating the club out of revenue.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 20:12
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"But perhaps the most stupid thing was to go bragging about it online, if the club had any sense whatsoever they'd be upping the amount of checks for kids tickets next home game and catching those who are cheating the club out of revenue"

Like the club doesn't think this goes on anyway? They already have measures in place to "stop" it going on, the different lights when going through the turnstiles.

Don't see how they can completely stop it.
Hope not anyway[:D][^]

Im not bragging about doing it, just gauging opinion, which is becoming closer to 50/50 with each post.

Its not like I purchase kids tickets every single game, just I saw an opportunity to go to two games over the festive period for the price of one, and took it (providing I dont get collared on new years eve, which I very much doubt[^])


SplendidStuff Posted on 28/12/2011 20:20
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When others pay the going rate and a few think they don't have to pay what others pay.


It's a sad indictment of society today really.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 20:28
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"When others pay the going rate and a few think they don't have to pay what others pay.


It's a sad indictment of society today really".

Its not like its a modern thing though is it SplendidStuff.
Always, ALWAYS happened. Always will.
If anything, I dare say its not as bad now.

No more squeezes (or not as many), no more jumping over the turnstiles, climbing over the general hospital wall into the holgate for a freebe.
All of these things are worse are they not?

Dont think ts a sad indictment of society today at all.
I think it shows how far the club (and times) have moved on that the only way you can screw the system is to still hand over your money[:D][^]

stan007 Posted on 28/12/2011 20:28
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mabe footy should be means tested or people are asked to pay what they can...

in these days of tv money, corporate and sponsorhip - actual gate admission money is peanuts to the club hence sk and co being able to say what time kick off / da of the game is despite the huge affect it has on the club...

if you think your hard earned admission fee is keeping the club afloat and will / will not enable them to buy a 'big'player then you are living in some 1950's football dream world!!!

admission fee, cost of pies and beer in the ground is a rip off

your precious club that means so much to you is ripping you off every week so why shouldnt one fan try to equl it up a bit??

yep pa silly money for ya plastic seat, sit down when they tell you, buy a programe, a pie, buy into some silly scheme.. they are laughing at you and playing on your ur'club nonsense [:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)]

SplendidStuff Posted on 28/12/2011 20:32
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yeah but he already admitted he spends x amount on beers so not like he cant afford it stan.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 20:33
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Bravo Stan[^]

outmac Posted on 28/12/2011 20:33
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Pauliej - I think you will have said that tongue in cheek ? Can't imagine you working
the system.[sad]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 20:35
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"yeah but he already admitted he spends x amount on beers so not like he cant afford it stan."

SplendidStuff, I can afford it, just not two games in a week with a few beers to boot.
Hence the kids tickets[^]
Just playing the system to my advantage fella[^]

SplendidStuff Posted on 28/12/2011 20:49
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Entirely upto you teddy, its your choice, but you asked what people thought so just saying what i think.


Families going with kids who pay the asking price and then people who think they are entitled to pay less, but again its your choice.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 28/12/2011 20:52
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Don't worry about it Teddy. The clubs didn't get into a problem for not fielding 22 footballers.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 20:52
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"Entirely upto you teddy, its your choice, but you asked what people thought so just saying what i think.

Families going with kids who pay the asking price and then people who think they are entitled to pay less, but again its your choice"

Fair enough Splendid.
But is not really indicative of modern society, as has been going on for year's (30, maybe 40 years, squeezes etc - I dont know this for a fact, but would imagine it to be the case)

Always happened, Always will[^]

SplendidStuff Posted on 28/12/2011 20:56
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Why did you ask then teddy?


If you see no problem with it then whatever we say makes no difference, or are you looking for positive reinforcement for your actions?

ThePrisoner Posted on 28/12/2011 20:59
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"But is not really indicative of modern society, as has been going on for year's (30, maybe 40 years, squeezes etc - I dont know this for a fact, but would imagine it to be the case)"

I'd have loved to have seen a 32 year old try to get a squeeze [:D]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 21:01
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I asked because I was getting grief at the match from some of my mates, were as some agreed.
Thought would throw the question open to a much wider audience.

Well that, and I was after my first ton[^]

As for looking for a positive reinforcement for my actions, couldn't care less, and the reaction has been marginally negative anyway, so that's out of the window..





Powlay Posted on 28/12/2011 21:03
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"Maybe its the club taking the mick out of the fans prepared to pay full price??
Everyone always banging on about why attendances are so low.
Perhaps the price has something to do with it maybe??

I dont feel I am taking the mick out of anyone, as I have said a number of times, the club are getting my money, I am watching the game, an extra person in attendance.

I run the risk of getting collared.

Its your classic risk / reward scenario."

Ive noticed in the thread how you continually dont reply to specific parts of peoples replies, only bits you feel you can put down.

Its nothing like a holiday where one person buys it cheaper, you are buying a ticketet under false pretences. Not an argument, its that simple.

Then you use 'oh well the club is getting some money off me' as justification. Thats alright if thats how you see it. But it doesnt make it right.

You admit you wouldnt do it in a cinema its all to do with you wanting to pay less and have a bundle of drinks as well because thats what your match day is about.

Clearly you can afford to pay adult price, but chose to sneak through the cracks so to speak.

Dress it up how you want, ask for people to agree with you.

Its still wrong, there is a price, itsd a set price you commit fraud to get in.

I couldnt care less if its a arrestable offence, or what the outcome is etc or what other people think.

Its a scummy thing to do.

Personally i thinbk you are just another idiot doing a look at me LOOK AT ME thread.

Utter no mark who needs to do that kinda thing to get replies.

PAULIEJ Posted on 28/12/2011 21:04
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Prisoner,on a lighter note me and a mate tried this a few years back at Notts County (in the cup I think) and we managed to pull it off. We both had tickets but it was a drunken bit of craic and the turnstile operator just looked at the two of us and didn,r have a clue what to do!!! We were in within seconds and both with untouched tickets!!!

Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 21:14
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Ok Powlay, you got me sussed!

If you had just given it two minutes, you might have seen me admit on the previous post to doing this for a ton[8)][|)][|)]!

I was back at work today, bored sh1tless, and bet the fella next to me I could get a ton today.
Thanks for contributing

Also, deep breath's fella! Everything will be ok, breath, breath!

Its only a message board pal, don't let someone you dont know wind you up so much, can't be good for your stress levels[^]


Teddy_Wong Posted on 28/12/2011 21:21
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"Utter no mark who needs to do that kinda thing to get replies"

Done for you though didn't it! Thanks for your reply[^]

Emmersons_BrazillianDong Posted on 28/12/2011 21:59
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The worst that will happen is they ask you to leave Teddy.

Your choie mate, if you want to chance it you can. You are a big lad and can take the (small) consequences [^]

pierreuk Posted on 28/12/2011 22:45
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you do know you can't just pay the mark up right? You'd have to buy a whole seperate adult ticket and completely disregard your fraudulent one [^]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 28/12/2011 23:04
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Teddy, what would your opinion be if someone entering the ground behind you noticed the orange light come on denoting a concessionary ticket and then pointed you out to a steward?

outmac Posted on 28/12/2011 23:24
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"fair cop guv'nr."


Link: amber

The_Ra_Ra_Hater Posted on 29/12/2011 00:03
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I ALWAYS do this for away games. Why should/would I pay more for a ticket when I KNOW I will get away with a kids. It's not MY club I'm ripping off so XXXXXX em.

May have done it on the very rare occasion for a home cup game in the past but this is only because my mates will have already bought them. I have an adults season ticket and have had one for about 10 years now (since turning 18), despite only getting to half of the games due to work commitments. Me personally I wouldn't do it to MFC but couldn't give a XXXXXX that others are. I know loads of lads who do this. The way they (and I) see it is if they didn't get a kids ticket they wouldn't go so that's no money to the club and 1 less fan in the ground.

If you think this is bad my mate had a season card last season. Did not re-new but obviously still has the old card. He's been to every home game this season by cracking on to the turnstile steward that his card must be faulty!! Haha. Good lad, he's worked them and he has got away with it. I couldn't care less that I've paid 24 or whatever it is to watch the same game. Just glad to have one more of the lads out on the pop and another body in the ground.

Up the Boro

Powlay Posted on 29/12/2011 00:27
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"I was back at work today, bored sh1tless, and bet the fella next to me I could get a ton today"

And i thought being a statto was sad as hell, yeah betteing about how many replies you get in a message board.

Takes the prize [pa]

Borocelt Posted on 29/12/2011 11:52
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Do what you want fella, and ignore the cretins. Its certainly better than a squeeze of old. Half of those complaining probably did it in the past.

I haven't exploited it, but I did used to do it all the time up until about age 18 or so when I couldn't get away with it anymore!

Ive used someone elses season ticket this season though. Quick, someone string me up for it.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 29/12/2011 12:02
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Nice one Borocelt.
I think you are right, half of those complaining have probably done a similar thing in the past.

It seem's to have split opinion down the middle, so obviously not that bad a thing![^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 29/12/2011 12:09
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"And I thought being a statto was sad as hell"
Finally, something we agree on

The_same_as_before Posted on 29/12/2011 12:33
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This is Bandyesk in it's brilliance, could even be the same lad who beat up the fifty lads on Linthorpe Rd.


But, well done Bandi another big ton.

peterkay Posted on 29/12/2011 12:37
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Teddy is the type of bloke that seeks attention[^]and is also a thief (keep dressing it up fella[:X])

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 29/12/2011 12:40
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Teddy, you obviously don't know right from wong.

The_same_as_before Posted on 29/12/2011 12:42
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Tiss off he is a thief, saying that being a bin dipper you might know.


Have you ever driven 80mph on a motorway without ringing the police to tell them.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 29/12/2011 12:49
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Peterkay - I am not a thief. It is not being dressed up.

Coluka confirmed with his cps contacts that it would be fraud, not theft.

Not exactly as fraudulant as the fella from seaton canoe who faked his own death.

Certainly not "theft" though

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 29/12/2011 12:57
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But you are getting two for the price of one. Wouldn't that be like getting two items in a shop and only paying for one? That is theft isn't it?

Teddy_Wong Posted on 29/12/2011 13:16
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See my comment above why its not theft.
Thats from the cps.
Not sure if you know who these people are, but I googled it, apparently, it stands for the crown prosecution service.
Apparently, they are responsible for prosecuting criminal cases nvestigated by the police in England and Wales.
If a crime is reported to them, they decide if charges are to be brought.
As coluka has already stated, the case would be fraud, not theft.

That's the official line.

My unofficial take on it is how is it theft when I am paying for the ticket

Had I broke into the ticket office and helped myself, this then would be theft (I assume)

I am sure the example you made of buying 2 items and only paying for one would result in a theft charge, ounless it was on a buy one get one free offer, or BOGOF, which seems appropriate

HarryBasset Posted on 29/12/2011 13:40
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I think it is wrong BUT the club know that it goes on, that's why the have the coloured lights at the turnstiles. They don't always have stewards looking at these lights so obviously they are are not too bothered about it. If MFC are not really bothered about it why are people getting worked up about it?

jimmythewondercat Posted on 29/12/2011 13:46
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This is a wind up from someone I reckon stuck at work on some very quiet days. Not a regular user name so I am thinking its one of the more well known wind up merchants out fishing. [:o)]

Repat_Smoggie Posted on 29/12/2011 13:58
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One Wong certainly doesn't make a right in this case [8)]

MKredleaderOne Posted on 29/12/2011 14:19
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I assume that as this guy is openly admitting fraud Rob won't hesitate to release his details when Clevelands finest ask for them.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 29/12/2011 14:45
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HA ha. Mkredleader, I have not laughed as loud at any other post on this thread!

I hope the police don't come knocking on my door?
Even if they did could they prove I went to the match if I denied it?
Would they scroll through hours of cctv looking for me on that fateful day?

Would they interview my friends and family?
Door to door enquiries maybe?
If they couldn't crack the case, might they try and get mI5 involved.
Worse still, might they bring back capital punishment if I am proved guilty?

I am sure Cleveland's finest have more pressing matters than investigating a case of someone under-paying to go to a football match?

Cheers mkred, have not laughed like that for years

icarus1965 Posted on 29/12/2011 23:19
you could got caught on saturday..

Have you ever thought if someone for the football club reads this thread, a double check could happen on saturday..

and then you are then copped.

fredfish Posted on 29/12/2011 23:41
you could got caught on saturday..

MFC actually factor in an allowance into all adult price tickets to compensate for the lost revenue due to this practice. It is very similar to what the retail sector do to cover shoplifting.

Therefore the club is not being ripped off, it is the adult paying fans who are being ripped off by MFC.

I have used a child's season ticket for the past 2 seasons due to being skint and having felt ripped off by the club for the service provided over the last few years.

captain5 Posted on 29/12/2011 23:47
you could got caught on saturday..

[:D][:D] Really?

joseph99 Posted on 30/12/2011 11:51
you could got caught on saturday..

Whether or not the OT is on a wind-up mission or not the reality is, these things will go on. It is in part a reflection of our society and culture inasmuch its propensity to engender a certain level of low life cheap scum that is unable to see past their own greed. This sort of criminality is on a level with price-tag switching or shoplifting when going through the checkout and only paying for certain items.

It probably goes on in every society but the UK does seem to generate more than its fair share of cheap-skates. It is difficult to accept the price factor argument as a defence so stop hiding your conscience behind it. Firstly, if you want the product you pay the going rate, it is non-negotiable. For exaple, if you want a product from Waitrose you do not walk in with a budget set for a Aldi. Purchasing the product from Waitrose and leaving behind the cash that only covers the Aldi price is a cheap criminal act that exposes the absence of any moral compass. I guess it's the same low-life scum that would not hand in wallet or mobile that is found in the street.

The poor economy argument does stack up also - our society and culture is more affluent than any time in its history. Don't for 1 minute confuse the depression of the 20's, post WW2 or even the 70's with the current flat-sreen TV dependency culture that bleats "poor me" daily.

My advice would be to acquire a conscience - no doubt you'd try and steal one (or pat of it) if it was an off-the-shelf product.

phantomfarterthesecond Posted on 30/12/2011 12:17
you could got caught on saturday..

so joe you have never ever put a foot wrong in your entire life eh watch dodgy d.v.ds watch foreign channels each to there own thats why life is full of characters and not robots[8D]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 30/12/2011 12:18
you could got caught on saturday..

Joseph99. Cracking idea about price tag switching. Does this actually work do you know?

The poor economy argument not stacking up?
Maybe not for you and your waitrose consuming chums, but ask any of the MILLIONS who have been laid off, people who cannot afford basic goods and services anymore. I am sure there is an economic argument to be had somewhere.

Your advice to acquire a conscience is duly noted, but ignored because I have one already, and it is clear.

There is another thread on here today about about ticket prices being far too expensive, everyone seems to accept that, is what I am doing so bad?

I don't see why you are so wound up about it, not harming you, is it??






joseph99 Posted on 30/12/2011 12:25
you could got caught on saturday..

I would like to think this is a parochial message board where the common interest is centred around the posterity of MFC, not Universal Studios or Hollywood. I could be wrong like. It is bad taste and crass to spout how he is depriving MFC of revenue using cheap and sneaky means.

Teddy, you must have a mirror in the house. Try looking into it. I don't use Waitrose as it offers poor value for money so use an outlet that suits my income. Likewise, I don't drink beer at games as I don't live beyond my means. The current economy is partly down to to greed and people like you expecting and depending on others to faciliate you living beyond your means.

BTW: I am not wound up, far from it - I just enjoy labelling people correctly.

Squeezy argument: coming from a council estate and a large family and a dad that had limited income in th 70's we could ill-afford the cost of a ticket. My interest in MFC nucleated from being allowed in via squeezies to the extent that I have ploughed good earned money into th club since I was financially independent. Not a bad long term strategy by the club to attract sound and solid support. It is NOT analogous to an adult in full time employment on shifts sneaking in as a kid.

I am perfectly lit up, you cheap scumbag!

Teddy_Wong Posted on 30/12/2011 12:33
you could got caught on saturday..

"Depriving mfc of revenue"
They are actually getting more revenue out of me going to the two games, as previously stated.
But if this validates your argument, then keep believing that[^]

BoroFur Posted on 30/12/2011 12:39
you could got caught on saturday..

Teddy, clearly you are NOT one of the MILLIONS who have been laid off and you can certainly can afford basic goods and services.

I've changed my stance slightly from a couple of days ago and despite it being the season of goodwill to all men I dearly hope that you get nabbed at the Peterborough match. I'd love to be there when you do and see you try to squirm your way out of it with lies and deceipt.

boro8686 Posted on 30/12/2011 12:44
you could got caught on saturday..

Not sure if this has been mentioned but did none of you on here get a squeeze at any point at ayresome park? if so are you going to go back down the club and give them their money back accounting for inflation and interest??

FFSBoro Posted on 30/12/2011 12:46
you could got caught on saturday..

I'm amazed at how some people are letting this get to them so much. [rle]

I had the opportunity a couple of years ago but lost my bottle at the turnstile and went to the ticket office and paid for the up-grade [:I]

Fair play to ya IMO.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 30/12/2011 12:46
you could got caught on saturday..

"The current economy is partly down to to greed and people like you expecting and depending on others to faciliate"

Good to see you are finally acknowledging there might actually be an issue with the current economy.

And how am I living beyond my means? Quite the opposite actually. IF I purchased 2 tickets at full price, then this would be living beyond my means.

Finally, maybe you should consider having a beer at match, it might lighten you up a touch[^]

r00fie Posted on 30/12/2011 12:49
you could got caught on saturday..

When the tax evaders in suits and the greed soaked average "players" lead by example, then we can discuss the lost 10.

Teddy_Wong Posted on 30/12/2011 13:05
you could got caught on saturday..

Borofur - the season of goodwill came to an abrupt end with your last post, but no worries. I am confident I won't get nabbed, and if I do, I do. I will let you know either way.

Boro8686, great point, and I bet no one who has had a squeeze, and are now angry at me, will ever give the money back. Hypocrisy I believe the word is.

Ffsboro. That is interesting, did they let you pay the mark up, someone earlier in the thread reckoned that would not be allowed.


FFSBoro Posted on 30/12/2011 13:14
you could got caught on saturday..

Yes mate, they did. I went to the ticket office and said that someone had bought me a kids ticket by mistake, and I simply paid the difference for an adults ticket. No bother at all [^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 30/12/2011 13:17
you could got caught on saturday..

"When the tax evaders in suits and the greed soaked average "players" lead by example, then we can discuss the lost 10"

Spot on r00fie.

coluka Posted on 30/12/2011 13:25
you could got caught on saturday..

"Not sure if this has been mentioned but did none of you on here get a squeeze at any point at ayresome park? if so are you going to go back down the club and give them their money back accounting for inflation and interest??"

The point is that those getting 'a squeeze' were actually kids, not grown adults like Teddy, so that's a non-justifiable reason ffs.

The good thing about this thread is that I know the club are well aware of its existence and will now be advising stewards to be extra vigilant for fraudsters (especially those called Teddy with a far eastern look about them [;)] )

There may be trouble ahead [^]

Teddy_Wong Posted on 30/12/2011 13:34
you could got caught on saturday..

Coluka, good to see you back on the thread. Your info on the cps was fascinating.
But you may have actually trumped that with your latest offering.
How do you"know the club are well aware of its existence" (this thread)

BoroFur Posted on 30/12/2011 13:42
you could got caught on saturday..

"How do you know the club are well aware of its existence" (this thread)"

Gordon Strachan was often on this board taking soundings about team selection for upcoming matches.

red_shamrock Posted on 30/12/2011 13:42
you could got caught on saturday..

Its not theft its more liberation of an unsold seat.

stan007 Posted on 30/12/2011 14:30
you could got caught on saturday..

advice would be to acquire a conscience ...

always us that need to have the conscience eh??

not the fat cats or the bankers, or the football club or the supermarket...

apparently Sainsburys are now winging that people are abusing their self service checkouts...

hmm what about the fact that their idea of self service checkouts is just a way of cutting staff and increasing their mass profits...

maybe they should use their conscience and sell food at a lesser price???

if the club is so worried go back to a manned turnstile

Teddy_Wong Posted on 30/12/2011 14:48
you could got caught on saturday..

Bravo stan, great analogy and example[^]

Don't know about anyone else who read coluka's last post, but I personally cannot wait for him to tell us how he 'knows' the club are aware of this thread[:D]

stan007 Posted on 30/12/2011 14:50
you could got caught on saturday..

the club shop - now that is fckuing robbery!

FFSBoro Posted on 30/12/2011 14:51
you could got caught on saturday..

[:D]