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smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 14:17
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He was asked 'There seems to be a little north east mini league forming round you doesnt there?'

He replied 'Yeah and we will finish top of that anyway!'

Class!

loislane5 Posted on 07/04/2008 14:19
Wheater on MOTD2

love Wheater, on the pitch and in person he's great.

rubber_soles Posted on 07/04/2008 14:20
Wheater on MOTD2

It was funny when he said in a confident way "Just get this season out of the way and we'll get into Europe next season"

Sleaford Posted on 07/04/2008 14:20
Wheater on MOTD2

Didn't he also say, "Aye, next season, qualify for Europe"

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 14:21
Wheater on MOTD2

Yeah he did, something like 'lets just get this season over and next season we will qualify for europe'

Love the guy!

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 14:22
Wheater on MOTD2

Sorry rubber soles!

Ste_1986 Posted on 07/04/2008 14:22
Wheater on MOTD2

hes as deluded as a geordie [;)]

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 15:01
Wheater on MOTD2

Apparently he's a tosser in real-life goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff. What I've heard anyway.

rubber_soles Posted on 07/04/2008 15:02
Wheater on MOTD2

No worries

Libbins Posted on 07/04/2008 15:04
Wheater on MOTD2

Swayze, I've heard that an' all.

I know a few people who went to school with him and that and it sounds like he's a bit of a w@nker but I just reckon they're a bit jealous to be honest!

I refuse to believe it.

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 15:05
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As opposed to the player that gladly gives up his day off to open a care home unit for young people with dementia.

It is easy to spread around rubbish about people Swayze.

loislane5 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:06
Wheater on MOTD2

Swayze-no he really isn't, he's got time for everyone, great with kids and one of the best on the hospital/hospice visits which aren't easy for any young lad. Always happy to do Community stuff (even filling in for others on his day off)polite to media too which isn't always the case, and gives good interviews. He's a credit to the club and his parents.

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:07
Wheater on MOTD2

Iv never met the bloke like but strikes me as a nice fella. Never been in trouble unlike cattermole and such.

Towell Posted on 07/04/2008 15:10
Wheater on MOTD2

It's easy to write shyte about the young lads.
I'm sure that it's just jealousy.

basslady Posted on 07/04/2008 15:11
Wheater on MOTD2

Aye.

He used to go out with my best mate's sister, and they both still have nice things to say about him.

I'd be buzzing if I had a Beemer like!

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 15:12
Wheater on MOTD2

"As opposed to the player that gladly gives up his day off to open a care home unit for young people with dementia.

It is easy to spread around rubbish about people Swayze."

Pipe down rob. Doing one thing for the face of the football club and doing another in your private time are two different things. Like I said, which you seem to have ignored is that these are things that I have heard by numerous and unconnected people, not that I care much for rumours and nor have I had any incident with any player in my entire life, but let's be honest here; footballers acting like tossers away from the game isn't uncommon and hardly surprising.

loislane5 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:16
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Pipe Down yourself. You've never met him but you felt the need to add that 'friends' have said hes a tosser. Rob and I have met him on lots of occassions and you CAN tell what people are 'really' like from these events.

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:21
Wheater on MOTD2

If showing off his beamer is the worst thing he does then I think we will be alright, dont you!

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 15:23
Wheater on MOTD2

"Pipe Down yourself. You've never met him but you felt the need to add that 'friends' have said hes a tosser. Rob and I have met him on lots of occassions and you CAN tell what people are 'really' like from these events."

Are you thick or something? Do I really need to explain myself yet again? I didn't state that "friends" have said he's a tosser at all I stated that I've heard so from God knows how many people okay?

I have no issue with him, I've never met him and to be honest you stating that he is a decent person and claiming to know what he's "really" like has as much credence as these people who state the contrary.

Personally I couldn't give a shiny S***e what he's like as a person as long as he does the business on the pitch.

kermit Posted on 07/04/2008 15:26
Wheater on MOTD2

Everyone who ever speaks about Wheater always say what a nice, grounded fella he is.

I loved Southgates quotes on him regarding his England call up when Southgate said he's probably going round Redcar now in an open top bus and about him planning on taking his autograph book if he made the final squad.

Plus, he seems a good laugh from those youtube clips.

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 15:30
Wheater on MOTD2

I've met him on 2 occasions and i don't have a bad word to say about him, he seems like a nice kid.

“David’s very young and very innocent. He’s a lovely lad from a lovely family who lives for football. Because of his innocence it’s easy to pull his leg and he gets some ribbing, but he’s very popular with the lads. He hasn’t got a cynical view of people where he thinks ‘What does he want?’ if someone asks him to do something.” - Gareth Southgate on Wheater

Sounds like a right tool, doesn't he?


loislane5 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:30
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No I'm not thick, I'm simply asking why if you don't care what he is like as a person, you felt the need to post what you did in the first place? - the thread was about his MOTD interview and people were saying they like him so you came along and did the old 'well i've heard...' bit, I'm simply asking why?

I said you can tell what players are like because your 'real-life' thing worried me, they are not professional actors, if they are annoyed at being somewhere or think they are above community things you can tell. I'm not gonna post negative things about other players, but Wheater has a good attitude.

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:32
Wheater on MOTD2

A useful tool. Kept them lot at bay yesterday!

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 15:35
Wheater on MOTD2

Correct me if I'm wrong loislane5 but is this not a messageboard, whereby people can come and post all sorts of inane rubbish? If you've got a problem with people making comments about the players then perhaps you should continue your worthless vendetta elsewhere against the amount of crap that Cattermole, Downing, Arca, Schwarzer, Boateng, Rochemback and numerous other have received from people on here.

My comment was in response to the remarks made, including the one by yourself about him being great, that's fine but clearly some people don't feel the same. That's life.

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 15:36
Wheater on MOTD2

Swayze - do yourself a favour and log off and come back tomorrow when you've grown another day older and wiser.

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:42
Wheater on MOTD2

Handbags!

loislane5 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:44
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'Worthless vendetta'? erm no i give credit where credit is due. In my previews and news stories I have given stick to players for on and off the pitch reasons when warranted, you are free to criticise anyone you like but if you read the board i think you will find there is only you posting negative things about Wheater, does that not tell you something?

LTS_3 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:45
Wheater on MOTD2

From what I have seen and heard of him around Redcar I don't think he is a w___er

My brother knocks about with Wheater's best mate - he was out with him Bank Holiday weekend - he said his mate nicked a tray of cherries on sticks from behind the bar and they were walking round trying to sell them for 10p a pop haha that's good crack, something any normal 21 year old would do

Saw him ask for Ronaldo's shirt yesterday and read about the autograph hunting stuff the other week - I would do exactly the same in his position, I bet he is buzzing every day

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:46
Wheater on MOTD2

To be fair you are the only negative poster on this thread.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 15:47
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Why the hostility rob? I made a comment, which has obviously irked loislane5, which is fair enough, that happens on a forum. Just because my experience doesn't conform with that of loislane5's is there any need for her to get upset by it? Like I said; maybe she should try and start having a go at just about every other member on here that slags of the players making comments far worse about them than me saying that "I heard he's a tosser" about Wheater.

teessider7 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:51
Wheater on MOTD2

I've met him and he was a nice guy. Not the brightest guy you'll ever meet as his head ice smash youtube clip shows but didnt seem arrogant at all.

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 15:52
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Yes but you know the situation - it's best not to say you heard someone's a tosser really cos it can spread like wildfire. That's the point and especially with him being a young local lad. He's done us a lot of favours recently with performances on the pitch and interviews for both us and Bob Fischer last week. I'm going to stand up for him - I think he could have a big future with Boro.

It's easy for rumours to spread that's all. I think we all agree we are proud to have a local lad doing so well and hopefully going on to be our second full England cap of the moment.

TRUCE


loislane5 Posted on 07/04/2008 15:52
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Your comment didn't particularly irk me, as i have already explained you are entitled to post what you want, but i'm entitled to respond to it and give any info I feel is relevant, like having actually met the person in question (as others have). I'm not upset, although asking if i'm 'thick' because you don't agree with me was a nice touch, very mature.
If you check any of the threads about other players you will find if i'm online I do defend them, if i don't agree with what is being said, or if it seems baseless.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 15:57
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"'Worthless vendetta'? erm no i give credit where credit is due. In my previews and news stories I have given stick to players for on and off the pitch reasons when warranted, you are free to criticise anyone you like but if you read the board i think you will find there is only you posting negative things about Wheater, does that not tell you something?"

Yes, a worthless vendetta because this whole attack on me is absolutely pointless given your seemingly reluctance to actually read the explanations into the comment that I made.

Negative things??? Jesus, all I said was that I heard he's a bit of a tosser, get a grip will you. Funny that Libbins claims to have also heard similar, not that I make any claim that any of it is correct of course, as I have already stated on numerous occasions, so how exactly is your comment true about me being the only one because you're claims tell me absolutely nothing despite what you state?

It seems that you're obviously annoyed that someone dare make a comment that doesn't conform to your own experience. Again; I've yet to see you have a go at the numerous posters that are constantly slagging off the other players with much worse comments than my own. Why is that?

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 16:00
Wheater on MOTD2

Time for a cease fire.


PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:00
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Was talking to him last night. He was limping a bit because Rooney had stood on him. Comes in the Pub with his girlfriend and parents and always has time for a chat. A great down to earth lad who is far from a to**er.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 16:01
Wheater on MOTD2

That's fair enough rob, but where's the constant defence of the other players when they're in line of insults and what not on here or is Wheater some exception?

loislane5 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:02
Wheater on MOTD2

OMG calm down! there is no attack on you! You posted something, I disagreed and you got personal.

I did read your explanations but you clearly haven't read mine.

I'm going to finish cleaning my bathroom now because talking to you is a waste of time.

Bernie_was_right Posted on 07/04/2008 16:03
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"Never been in trouble unlike cattermole and such".

Errr....he was cautioned for a fracas in a Redcar Kebab shop a year or two back, so that statement isn`t quite right.

It was reported in The Gazette at the time, before anyone accuses me of making it up.

That said, i do like him. I used to work with his Dad and he was Ok as well.

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:04
Wheater on MOTD2

People always defend other players aswell. I cant understand your point. Do you think that players are there to be slagged off?

chipbag Posted on 07/04/2008 16:05
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Swayze,

Do you think that people are having a go because you HEARD he was a W----r, therefor you are easily swayed by what you are told. Infact it would have been better if you had first hand knowledge of what he was like. And if you have no issues with him why say it in the first place?

smogchris87 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:05
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Sorry Bernie id never heard that.

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 16:06
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Personally if I see a comment I disagree with I'll say. I'm like Arsene Wenger I don't see a lot of stuff - or I'm not on here 24/7.

But I don't like personal comments about the players just as I wouldn't like to see personal comments about you, me or anyone else posted on this public message board. You know off field stuff. That's the difference.

If you were to post something about a player being useless or good on the pitch it is entirely different matter.

But yes I do get more upset when it is a local lad - and a young lad at that. I'm proud of him you must be as well.

PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:07
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Two lads had been having a go at him and his girlfriend all night when he was trying to have a night out with his lass. Most people would get wound up.

Critical_Bill Posted on 07/04/2008 16:08
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Didn't he once get nicked for scrapping outside The Deck?

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 16:09
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"OMG calm down! there is no attack on you! You posted something, I disagreed and you got personal.

I did read your explanations but you clearly haven't read mine.

I'm going to finish cleaning my bathroom now because talking to you is a waste of time."

I read your explanation and it consists of simply stating that you've met him and therefore claim to know exactly what he's like. Fair enough if you choose to have that opinion, but clearly given what I've heard about him form some it's not one shared by others, so who's right then; you or them?

PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:11
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never herd of that one. I'll ask im next time i see him!

Swayze- Hes a nice lad and an asset to our team both on and off the field. give it a rest man.

Bukowski Posted on 07/04/2008 16:13
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Give over Swayze. You're obviously one of those characters who always has to have the last word.

You were spreading what many on here believe to be an untruth about one of our young up-and-coming players who can't help but live his life now in the public eye.

And let's face it, Teesside is full of people who resent those who make a success of themselves. I doubt the rumours you heard about him were coming from a good place.

Therefore people who know him a lot better than you were rightly defending him.

Don't you get it??

Heine Posted on 07/04/2008 16:13
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shouldn't that be old people with dementia Rob?

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 16:16
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"Swayze,

Do you think that people are having a go because you HEARD he was a W----r, therefor you are easily swayed by what you are told. Infact it would have been better if you had first hand knowledge of what he was like. And if you have no issues with him why say it in the first place?"

Right, let me explain it again because you clearly haven't bothered to read my previous comments.

I've heard from numerous unconnected people things about him that aren't exactly testament to the David Wheater character we've seen in the interviews and so on it's not about being easily swayed, quite what the hell that has to do with it is baffling. These things vary differently from their own personal experiences and otherwise, okay? It would be better if I had my own experience but I don't that doesn't mean that I'm forbidden from making a comment about stories that I've been told by others, does it?

Whether or not these are true I have no idea nor do I have any reason to doubt them or believe them. As I have already said; my comment was in response to the claims that he's a great person made by a few others on here, that is all. This has already been explained if you bothered to read to thread instead of just jumping in.

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 16:16
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Wheater's little sister goes to the school I teach at. He sometimes comes to pick her up (and has done for years). He used to come in his Astra, now he comes in his BM. Doesn't get out and do the big-I-am or anything, no revving engines, no booming rap music.

How many Premiership superstars would also bother coming to a PSA quiz night and a secondary school production of Oliver with their parents?

Again, not a single "look at me" moment, in fact, totally the opposite.

His little sister is a lovely kid too and dead proud of her brother.


Definitely NOT "a tosser in real life" as you've heard. Perhaps you should have at least a little bit of first hand evidence before you slag someone you don't know off on a public website?

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 16:22
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"Give over Swayze. You're obviously one of those characters who always has to have the last word.

You were spreading what many on here believe to be an untruth about one of our young up-and-coming players who can't help but live his life now in the public eye.

And let's face it, Teesside is full of people who resent those who make a success of themselves. I doubt the rumours you heard about him were coming from a good place.

Therefore people who know him a lot better than you were rightly defending him.

Don't you get it??"

I'm responding to the comments directed at me, if you don't like it then tough S***.

If you doubt the comments that I've heard that's your prerogotive, given that you have no idea of them or where I've heard them I'd say that it's a pretty ignorant stance to take.

I have no issue with people defending him, I'm curious to know if they know him personally because some on here are simply stating that they know his sister's ex or his dad works with my uncle's dog and what not.


You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 16:24
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"Personally if I see a comment I disagree with I'll say. I'm like Arsene Wenger I don't see a lot of stuff - or I'm not on here 24/7.

But I don't like personal comments about the players just as I wouldn't like to see personal comments about you, me or anyone else posted on this public message board. You know off field stuff. That's the difference.

If you were to post something about a player being useless or good on the pitch it is entirely different matter.

But yes I do get more upset when it is a local lad - and a young lad at that. I'm proud of him you must be as well."

I'm am proud of him. It's great achievement and a great bonus for the club.

PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:29
Wheater on MOTD2

"Was talking to him last night."

would you like me to say it again?

You have formed you opinion on rumours where I have formed mine on first hand experience.

Now tell me which one is a more reliable source?

you have had at least four people on here who have said they have met him or how they know him. you have yet to back up your ramblings with any evidence but say so.

As i said before give it a rest Swayze your becoming tedious.

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 16:30
Wheater on MOTD2

Heine - no it is young people with dementia. It is a growing problem. We had an article in the fanzine on Saturday about the new Boro Unit and the opening by Wheater and McMahon. It is a 13 bed unit specifically to cope with young people getting dementia - it is often brought on through alcoholism.

Here's a quote.
"There are 140 kinds of dementia but alcohol related dementia is on the rise in Middlesbrough. There is a stigma behind it, people are quick to judge."

By young we are talking aged 19 and over - basically there is nowhere else for them to go.

Potentially not the easiest place to visit for a young lad, famous footballer or not. But the Boro players were a real credit, chatting and joking with the residents.


Space_Face Posted on 07/04/2008 16:35
Wheater on MOTD2

Click on News 17 to see the sort of thing he does in his spare time


Link: ........................................

sexypies Posted on 07/04/2008 16:37
Wheater on MOTD2

from the one time i've spoken to him and from what ive heard he's a good lad. he's always popping in to the school where his mam works and he always has time for the kids..he used to teach them football aswell. i can't see many other pro footballers doing that kind of thing.

on the other hand, lads who i know who he went to school with have had not so much nice things to say..it's all objective though isn't it? take it with a pinch of salt.

goalscrounger, totally unrelated here but do you work at a certain secondary school in marske? how long have you been there?

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 16:39
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"Wheater's little sister goes to the school I teach at. He sometimes comes to pick her up (and has done for years). He used to come in his Astra, now he comes in his BM. Doesn't get out and do the big-I-am or anything, no revving engines, no booming rap music.

How many Premiership superstars would also bother coming to a PSA quiz night and a secondary school production of Oliver with their parents?

Again, not a single "look at me" moment, in fact, totally the opposite.

His little sister is a lovely kid too and dead proud of her brother.


Definitely NOT "a tosser in real life" as you've heard. Perhaps you should have at least a little bit of first hand evidence before you slag someone you don't know off on a public website?"

You see you're another delinquent. Where have I slagged him off as you put it? I simply said that I heard he was a tosser and explained where I'd heard such. Do you think I'm just making it up, that I'd systematically fabricate such a thing against a player that plays for the club I love? What is so difficult to understand about what I have posted and taken the time to explain time and time again so that fools like you don't get the wrong end of the stick but somehow do? DO you have troubles reading or something?

What I find amazing is that people on here have felt the need to chastise me for making a derogatory remark in relation to a player regarding things that I heard yet get this "perhaps you should have first hand experience of him" B******* aimed at me some who think that because they know a member of his family or have happened to have met him briefly as a measure of fully knowing him and his character.

How many people here can truly claim to know him, have known him for years, can call him their friend and so on?

It seems some just don't want to face the possibility of some things being true given that he's a local lad playing for the local club and all.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 16:45
Wheater on MOTD2

""Was talking to him last night."

would you like me to say it again?

You have formed you opinion on rumours where I have formed mine on first hand experience.

Now tell me which one is a more reliable source?

you have had at least four people on here who have said they have met him or how they know him. you have yet to back up your ramblings with any evidence but say so.

As i said before give it a rest Swayze your becoming tedious."

Again please go read my comments made previously in the thread, I'm tired of having to constantly explain myself to simple people like you, who don;t take the time to actually read the comments made.

Let me make it clear again in the vain hope that you might actually read what has been posted.

I have not formed any opinion on him simply because I do not know him. My comment was made on the basis of things that I've heard from many people who have had first hand encounters with him and of whom I have no reason whatsoever to doubt.

I have backed up my comments with an explanation, which I'm guessing is too much trouble for some to read including yourself.

To be honest; me, you or anyone else are not reliable sources despite what you wish to believe. Your experiences with the lad are not necessarily true of everyone else's either.

PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 16:50
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"What I find amazing is that people on here have felt the need to chastise me for making a derogatory remark in relation to a player regarding things that I heard yet get this "perhaps you should have first hand experience of him" B******* aimed at buy some who think that because they know a member of his family or have happened to have met him briefly as a measure of fully knowing him and his character"

Yet you have never met him, dont know him but think you are jusified in making derogatory remarks about a player on thing you have heard. Well read the whole post again and now you will find you have heard a lot of good comments about him and not just the sh*t that you spouted earlier.


grantus Posted on 07/04/2008 16:53
Wheater on MOTD2

Are my eyes decieving me or is You_Drive_Me_Swayze, otherwise known as Chris Riggott, having a meltdown?

Come on Chris, you had your chance, you blew it.

Boromart Posted on 07/04/2008 16:59
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Swayze are you being a moron on purpose or are you totally oblivious to it?

If you state that people have told you that Wheater is a tosser, and you do nothing to dismiss this opinoin then you are both endorsing and agrandising this rumour.

This is why newspapers get sued for libel/slander for printing someone elses opinion. Think about it.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:00
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"Yet you have never met him, dont know him but think you are jusified in making derogatory remarks about a player on thing you have heard. Well read the whole post again and now you will find you have heard a lot of good comments about him and not just the sh*t that you spouted earlier."

FFS! Are you stupid or something???

Where have I claimed to be justified in the comments I made? As I have already fooking stated the remark I made was based upon numerous, and by numerous I mean 6 or 7 different accounts of completely different people ranging from my neighbour; to my brother; to a person I work with who went to school with him and people who I've met at The Riverside who have told me things about him, but I guess it's all utter lies because you know him and know everything little single thing that he does or has done in his entire life.

Yes, I've not met him, does that mean the comments that I've heard are untrue then?

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 17:03
Wheater on MOTD2

If somebody said to me, "I hear you're a tosser who goes around showing off your Beemer" would I think they were slagging me off? Erm, yes. I would.

You said the same about Wheater, ergo, I think you're slagging him off.


How about I e-mail another person on FMTTM and tell them you have an erectile dysfunction disorder and like to knit baby clothes in your spare time?. That person could then start their won thread saying that they'd heard those things about you and then use your own argument to justify why it was totally fair??


Oh, and "lol" grantus and "yes, for six years" sexypies

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:08
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"Swayze are you being a moron on purpose or are you totally oblivious to it?

If you state that people have told you that Wheater is a tosser, and you do nothing to dismiss this opinoin then you are both endorsing and agrandising this rumour.

This is why newspapers get sued for libel/slander for printing someone elses opinion. Think about it."

I'm trying to explain myself to some frankly pig-S*** ignorant and stupid people on here who don't bother to read posts.

Why should I dismiss what I've been told? I have no reason to doubt what has been said and from the people who have had encounters they have no agenda to their remarks either. Just because some people on a forum state that from their own experiences he's not the person that I've heard from some does that mean I'm incorrect and they're right?

No doubt some thick idiot on here who's forehead is too slanty to be able to read properly will not read what has been posted yet again.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:13
Wheater on MOTD2

"If somebody said to me, "I hear you're a tosser who goes around showing off your Beemer" would I think they were slagging me off? Erm, yes. I would.

You said the same about Wheater, ergo, I think you're slagging him off.


How about I e-mail another person on FMTTM and tell them you have an erectile dysfunction disorder and like to knit baby clothes in your spare time?. That person could then start their won thread saying that they'd heard those things about you and then use your own argument to justify why it was totally fair??"

Christ another imbecile who doesn't know how to read properly!!! Go read through the thread again, slowly, and then you'll see where you went wrong.

CodHeadedSmoggy Posted on 07/04/2008 17:18
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS - How old are you, may i ask?

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 17:18
Wheater on MOTD2

Sometimes you just have to walk away...


You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:20
Wheater on MOTD2

What does it matter how old I am? No doubt some clever clogs will come across with the usual "15-year old" nonsense that is so frequently dished out within an argument when opinions are divided.

Boromart Posted on 07/04/2008 17:21
Wheater on MOTD2

Considering everyone on this thread thinks your are an idiot, then I think I will go with the general consensus on this one.

prepman Posted on 07/04/2008 17:22
Wheater on MOTD2

Give the lad the last word, that will make im happy.

Eddie_Catflap Posted on 07/04/2008 17:23
Wheater on MOTD2

When did he get a BMW? Post contract signing I guess. He was driving a right old jalopy before, which stuck out like a sore thumb from the Mercs etc in the players carpark.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:25
Wheater on MOTD2

Yes, because the opinions of a few anonymous non-entities on a forum really mean a lot to me. How can I possibly live my life knowing that a few people who have troubles reading think that I'm an idiot?

It's nice to see that a self-important turd like you has promoted yourself as the spokesperson of this thread and feels qualified to make a judgment about a person on behalf of everyone else.

Go back to sniffing pants Boromart.

CodHeadedSmoggy Posted on 07/04/2008 17:26
Wheater on MOTD2

can't a simple question, deserve a simple answer? Or is that it you are SIMPLE?

kevin Posted on 07/04/2008 17:27
Wheater on MOTD2

i was two years above him in school so i didn't really speak to him that much, but i don't remember him being particularly out of line or anything. he used to play footy a bit with people from my year, seemed to get along with most people. kids who're good at footy are generally have a bit of an edge anyway so chances are if he was a bit C****y he'll have been no difference to anyone else, apart from the fact that he's now a future england international, where as the rest are probably working at corus now. so fair play i suppose.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:31
Wheater on MOTD2

"can't a simple question, deserve a simple answer? Or is that it you are SIMPLE?"

Perhaps I'm not interested in divulging my age on the basis that I fail to see what relevance it has to the topics being discussed in this thread. Of course if you can explain exactly why it does then I'll tell you my age. Can't get no fairer than that. Chump.


sexypies Posted on 07/04/2008 17:32
Wheater on MOTD2

yes, for six years" sexypies"

ahhh good stuff...i just checked the facebook group, mr henderson! i left in 2003, i think you taught a couple of my mates. i was always jealous coz apparently you let them listen to good music in class while i was slaving away down the corridor with mrs hyde...

anyway sorry guys..back on topic....

PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 17:33
Wheater on MOTD2

yawn.

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 17:34
Wheater on MOTD2

Okay, I've gone and re-read it (slowly, as instructed).

It says that you've heard from un-named third parties (and with no information reagrding whether the aforementioned third parties have any contact/knowlegde of Wheater whatsoever) that Wheater is "a tosser who goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff".

Here's the full post quoted to make sure I got it all:

"Apparently he's a tosser in real-life goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff. What I've heard anyway."

So, to sum up, you're slagging someone off with no real evidence other than hearsay?

Which bit don't I get?? Remember to reply clearly please as, remember, I am an "imbecile who doesn't know how to read properly".


Boromart Posted on 07/04/2008 17:35
Wheater on MOTD2

"It's nice to see that a self-important turd like you has promoted yourself as the spokesperson of this thread and feels qualified to make a judgment about a person on behalf of everyone else." -- touched a nerve I see!!!

Well I'm certainly not being a spokesperson for anyone. I have just read what everyone else has posted (you know like you are telling people to do!), and interpretted it. They think your an idiot....I think they are right.

"Go back to sniffing pants Boromart." -- that reminds me I must return them to your mam, she left them at mine and they are stinking the place out.

grantus Posted on 07/04/2008 17:36
Wheater on MOTD2

Calm down son, it's not good for your blood pressure.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:37
Wheater on MOTD2

Well Boromart considering that she died about 4 years ago I fail to see what use they are to her now.

grantus Posted on 07/04/2008 17:40
Wheater on MOTD2

Hmmmm, that'll usually do it.

End of thread.

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 17:41
Wheater on MOTD2

Was good while it lasted. And so close to the ton too!!

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 17:42
Wheater on MOTD2

"Okay, I've gone and re-read it (slowly, as instructed).

It says that you've heard from un-named third parties (and with no information reagrding whether the aforementioned third parties have any contact/knowlegde of Wheater whatsoever) that Wheater is "a tosser who goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff".

Here's the full post quoted to make sure I got it all:

"Apparently he's a tosser in real-life goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff. What I've heard anyway."

So, to sum up, you're slagging someone off with no real evidence other than hearsay?

Which bit don't I get?? Remember to reply clearly please as, remember, I am an "imbecile who doesn't know how to read properly"."

Again where HAVE I slagged him off? You've stated that you've read the thread but obviously your selective reading has avoided the parts where I've categorically stated that this comment is based upon what I've heard, not only that but I've stated that comments I've heard from him have come from someone who went to his school, so that debunks your incorrect suggestion doesn't it?

If I said that "I've heard he's a tosser, but I've heard he's a decent lad too" caused such F***ing outrage! Would half-wits like you still be able to read and understand that?

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 17:44
Wheater on MOTD2

Rob, can we have one of those little "bangs head against brick wall" smilies that they have on B17 please?

Juventus Posted on 07/04/2008 17:46
Wheater on MOTD2

ah man, u is fick as S*** innit


lol

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 17:46
Wheater on MOTD2

Long time no see Juve, how are you?

rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 17:47
Wheater on MOTD2

Ask them if we can have a special loan deal for our lone ranger on here.

Bukowski Posted on 07/04/2008 17:50
Wheater on MOTD2

Now I've had the time of my life
No I never felt like this before
Yes I swear it's the truth
and I owe it all to you

Cause I've had the time of my life
and I owe it all to you

I've been waiting for so long
Now I've finally found someone
To stand by me

We saw the writing on the wall
As we felt this magical fantasy

Now with passion in our eyes
There's no way we could disguise it secretly
So we take each other's hand
Cause we seem to understand the urgency

just remember

You're the one thing

I can't get enough of

So I'll tell you something

This could be love because

(CHORUS)
I've had the time of my life
No I never felt this way before
Yes I swear it's the truth
And I owe it all to you

With my body and soul
I want you more than you'll ever know

So we'll just let it go
Don't be afraid to lose control

Yes I know whats on your mind
When you say:
"Stay with me tonight."

Just remember
You're the one thing

I can't get enough of

So I'll tell you something

This could be love because

(CHORUS)
'Cause I had the time of my life
No I've never felt this way before
Yes I swear it's the truth
And I owe it all to you

'Cause I've had the time of my life
And I've searched through every open door
Till I found the truth
and I owe it all to you

*Instrumental*

Now I've had the time of my life
No I never felt this way before

Yes I swear it's the truth
and I owe it all to you

(CHORUS)
Cause I've had the time of my life
No I've never felt this way before
Yes I swear it's the truth
And I owe it all to you

Cause I had the time of my life
And I've searched through every open door
Till I've found the truth
and I owe it all to you

Juventus Posted on 07/04/2008 17:55
Wheater on MOTD2

Warning: no one other than goalscrounger will find this post remotely relevant or interesting and even he will be bored by the end

I'm fine thanks, GS, just meandering through life like a partially blind stray dog. Supposed to be my final year of Uni this year but might be getting thrown out for never attending anything or handing any work in. Personally I'd rather they did throw me out because it would teach me a valuable lesson that keeping me in wouldn't, and I don't hold much value to my degree anyway, certainly not carrying on the law thing. I'm earning a bit of money on the side as a freelance journalist so might carry that on, might move to Germany and coach football, might fall in the soulless corporate line. Who knows. The world is my oyster but I care only for fish fingers. Aaanyway, that's the long and short of it - you still teaching the math?

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 19:01
Wheater on MOTD2

Hmmm.....sounds like a year that could shape your whole life one way or another.

Couldn't you "teach yourself the lesson" and finish your degree, for no other reason than to make all the money spent so far have at least some meaning?

If I were you, I would fcuk off around the world for a while after that.

Yeah, still teaching!

Megamatman Posted on 07/04/2008 19:25
Wheater on MOTD2

lol - I went to school with him... played football with him (I was sh**e) and now I work for Corus. Kevin are you a prophet?

Wheater is a top lad. Have loads of time for him and its brilliant to see him doung so well!

He's an absolute wally tho (in a good way - if thats possible).

Scrote Posted on 07/04/2008 19:34
Wheater on MOTD2

juve - probably not the best thread to hijack but if you have a chance at finishing the degree then seriously - do it

from one who regrets doing what you are suggesting doing...

YDMS - what you seem to be failing to understand here is that a baseless rumour criticising any player can be easily picked up on and spread as gospel - and is done quite regularly

are your neighbour and your brother and the people you meet at the riverside quite as unconnected as you think? is it not more probable that they've all heard the same thing from the same source and you are taking multiple accounts as being multiple sources?

the fact that almost everyone on here with first hand experience of wheater refutes the rumour YOU ARE SPREADING should maybe start some bells ringing

and its nice to see that you still don't believe anything that can't be backed up with scientific proof...

bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 07/04/2008 19:37
Wheater on MOTD2

met him on a night out in redcar smashing lad,loves the boro,top lad for me like,,,

nashvagasboro Posted on 07/04/2008 20:00
Wheater on MOTD2

Hey Swayze.When you write something like that you should be able to back up the statement with two sources and these sources should be confirmed. Rumor is your a tosser. Sources bigrich3rd and loislane6. Confirmed sources so it's true........

Piggy Posted on 07/04/2008 20:05
Wheater on MOTD2

My daughter and her mate saw Wheater and Grounds in the Kentucky at Teesside Park a couple of weeks ago, but her mate didnt believe it was them.

So my daughter, in the accusing tone that she usually reserves for me when she tells me that she cant find her school shoes five minutes before she is due to leave the house, waltzed up to them and demanded that they confirm their identities.

She said that they were very friendly and seemed quite pleased to be recognised. Nice lads in her opinion. Poor dietary habits though.

Apologies if they had just popped in for a corn on the cob and mineral water.

tom_mate Posted on 07/04/2008 20:07
Wheater on MOTD2

When Wheater has been injured this season, he's sat near us in the stand and I just wanted to disagree with what Swayze has said. He comes across as a genuinely nice lad, no ego on him, always greets people like a long lost friend and always has time to chat to fans and shake their hands, great lad.

Heine Posted on 07/04/2008 21:10
Wheater on MOTD2

thats a new one on me Rob i've worked with old people suffering from dementia
you learn something new everyday

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 21:14
Wheater on MOTD2

"Hey Swayze.When you write something like that you should be able to back up the statement with two sources and these sources should be confirmed. Rumor is your a tosser. Sources bigrich3rd and loislane6. Confirmed sources so it's true........"

Who the F*** are you to tell people what they should be using to back up their remarks. Go back and read the context in which I made the comment throughly. What would be sufficient proof for you? And how the hell would I go about confirming you unrealistic turd? Maybe I should get these people to all come post in here and inform you of what they told me would you be satisfied then?

If someone were to say he was the greatest person they ever met would you be rambling like that at them? asking for them to provide sources and confirm that he is indeed a great person?

Here's a case; perhaps if I said that I had, had a negative experience with him if you wouldn't be playing such a clever little S*** reiterating everything numerous people have already posted. Dipstick!

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 07/04/2008 21:16
Wheater on MOTD2

ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Link: someone's angry

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 07/04/2008 21:16
Wheater on MOTD2

ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Link: someone's angry

goalscrounger Posted on 07/04/2008 21:16
Wheater on MOTD2

Oooh, a sneaky double post to bring up the ton!!

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 07/04/2008 21:20
Wheater on MOTD2

How the chuff did that happen?

nashvagasboro Posted on 07/04/2008 21:22
Wheater on MOTD2

Hey swayze.If you were a fish you would have been cought when you were a tiddler. Honestly i was jerkin yer gerkin. but it was a good bite

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 21:22
Wheater on MOTD2

"YDMS - what you seem to be failing to understand here is that a baseless rumour criticising any player can be easily picked up on and spread as gospel - and is done quite regularly

are your neighbour and your brother and the people you meet at the riverside quite as unconnected as you think? is it not more probable that they've all heard the same thing from the same source and you are taking multiple accounts as being multiple sources?

the fact that almost everyone on here with first hand experience of wheater refutes the rumour YOU ARE SPREADING should maybe start some bells ringing

and its nice to see that you still don't believe anything that can't be backed up with scientific proof..."

And what you seem to be failing to understand, which is hardly surprising given your approach before is that I have already F***ing explained my comments, you imbecile!.

To call them baseless when they have as much credence as some of the other positive remarks being made on here, which have gone unchallenged, sums up the prat you've shown yourself for time and time again on here.

As I have said and you would understand if you bothered to read the thread in it's entirety instead of the titbits you choose to read is that the comments that I have heard are not the same thing, they are differing stories spanning to nearly two years when I heard the first just after the UEFA Cup final to the last which was about 6 weeks ago.

Just because I have heard them from other people and just because other people's experiences are differing in no way makes them untrue. Even a delinquent like you who struggles to read would understand this.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 21:24
Wheater on MOTD2

"£Hey swayze.If you were a fish you would have been cought when you were a tiddler. Honestly i was jerkin yer gerkin. but it was a good bite"

Wow. You're clever but you don't get out of getting pasted that easy by acting like it was intentional, you illiterate coward.

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 07/04/2008 21:28
Wheater on MOTD2

Foe someone who purports not to care you are making an awful lot of fuss about endorsing the authenticity of the comments.

borotony Posted on 07/04/2008 21:35
Wheater on MOTD2

i'm from redcar and have on a couple occasions been out with my mates, who coincidentally are friends with wheater, ive always got the impression that wheater is very quiet and grounded and doesnt drink that much either. and to ever criticising him for showing off in his beemer. its an M3 and im damn sure i'd show it off if i owned it.

nashvagasboro Posted on 07/04/2008 21:36
Wheater on MOTD2

"f you",you pretentious little prick.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 21:42
Wheater on MOTD2

"Foe someone who purports not to care you are making an awful lot of fuss about endorsing the authenticity of the comments."

The issue I have is the disdain that has been aimed at me for simply mentioning such a thing and the complete misunderstandings of some who've leveled accusations at me despite not actually bothering to read the explanations.

Funny how no one questions the authenticity of those claiming to know the guy or the second-hand information they've provided/ Talk about double-standards! No one questions a remark when it's what they want to hear do they?

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 21:47
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS - without getting into arguments over intelligence and the context of your comment, would you now accept that what you have been told is probably wrong? I mean how many people does it take to dispute the rumours before you give up?

Is Southgate not contradicting them enough?

Scrote Posted on 07/04/2008 21:48
Wheater on MOTD2

"As I have said and you would understand if you bothered to read the thread in it's entirety instead of the titbits you choose to read is that the comments that I have heard are not the same thing, they are differing stories spanning to nearly two years when I heard the first just after the UEFA Cup final to the last which was about 6 weeks ago."

i appreciate that i must be stupid so could you do me a quick favour and just indicate the post time where you shared this bit of information (e.g. "Posted on 07/04/2008 21:22")

i was under the impression that you had only indicated a multitude of sources - not a multitude of sources over a large period of time

the unchallenged positive comments have come from people who have met the person in question - i am willing to assume people aren't going to lie about such stuff (and rob, at least, has documentary proof of his meetings)

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 21:53
Wheater on MOTD2

"YDMS - without getting into arguments over intelligence and the context of your comment, would you now accept that what you have been told is probably wrong? I mean how many people does it take to dispute the rumours before you give up?"

Are you serious? Are you seriously suggesting that because a few people have commentated on their experiences with the guy have been positive then the comments that I've been told are therefore incorrect? If only life was that simple, eh?

As I've said, which many seem to ignore is that I have had no reason to doubt any of the comments that I've heard, and having personally known some of them for years and years I know they're not people that would just lie about things like that for the sake of it either

Quite how you feel that the rumours have been disputed despite not even knowing what they are is quite frankly pathetic.

borotony Posted on 07/04/2008 21:56
Wheater on MOTD2

heine, young people can have dementia.

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 22:03
Wheater on MOTD2

"Apparently he's a tosser in real-life goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff. What I've heard anyway."

You've heard a few other things, other people have actual experiences of him. Like i said previously, i've met him twice and both occasions only had positve things to say about him. Ignore my opinion of you want, but at least take seriously those of the people who work with him everyday; the likes of Southgate and Cooper.

Whilst your insulting everybody over their intellect and such, let me pick a few holes in your pathetic posts. In aq reply to Rob you wrote, "Like I said, which you seem to have ignored is that these are things that I have heard by numerous and unconnected people".

That was in your second post, where did you previously mention any of that in your first post?

Space_Face Posted on 07/04/2008 22:03
Wheater on MOTD2

Korsakoff's syndrome is terrible, very sad to see.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:06
Wheater on MOTD2

"i appreciate that i must be stupid so could you do me a quick favour and just indicate the post time where you shared this bit of information (e.g. "Posted on 07/04/2008 21:22")

i was under the impression that you had only indicated a multitude of sources - not a multitude of sources over a large period of time"

No you've misunderstood. Your remark was: "is it not more probable that they've all heard the same thing from the same source and you are taking multiple accounts as being multiple sources?" - No because I've already explained they are differing incidents look:
07/04/2008 16:16, 07/04/2008 17:00

"the unchallenged positive comments have come from people who have met the person in question - i am willing to assume people aren't going to lie about such stuff (and rob, at least, has documentary proof of his meetings)"

Really what like this one for example?

"Iv never met the bloke like but strikes me as a nice fella. Never been in trouble unlike cattermole and such."

or this one:

"He used to go out with my best mate's sister, and they both still have nice things to say about him."

Personally I have no doubt to question whether these are true or not, I don't see why people would lie, the same goes for me. Why would I lie and why would the people I spoken to lie about the things they said?

It seems that some just don't like the fact there is the possibility that those negative things are true given their own experiences would suggest quite the contrary.

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 22:07
Wheater on MOTD2

"Apparently he's a tosser in real-life goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff. What I've heard anyway."

That sentence doesn't imply that you were told by "numerous and unconnected people", does it?

Do you need a lesson in comprehension?

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:20
Wheater on MOTD2

"That sentence doesn't imply that you were told by "numerous and unconnected people", does it?

Do you need a lesson in comprehension?"

It doesn't simply because I didn't predict it would cause such a S*** storm and didn't feel that it was necessary to make remarks in regards to the other incidents, okay?

mickymacc Posted on 07/04/2008 22:21
Wheater on MOTD2

Yeah but no but yeah,jesus what a twonk.

Scrote Posted on 07/04/2008 22:22
Wheater on MOTD2

16:06 mentions numerous unconnected people - it doesn't mention numerous discussions going back a few years

17:00 again mentions a lot of people but no mention of time scale

therefore my remark that they may have all stemmed from the same original source is perfectly reasonable

"Iv never met the bloke like but strikes me as a nice fella. Never been in trouble unlike cattermole and such." - was challenged twice - Bernie_was_right Posted on 07/04/2008 16:03 and Critical_Bill Posted on 07/04/2008 16:08 (presumably the same incident but possibly not)

"He used to go out with my best mate's sister, and they both still have nice things to say about him." - assuming no lies, the sources are immediate and both have first hand knowledge of wheater

i know from personal experience that i can read something on here at dinnertime and when i go to the pub in the evening i will be told the same thing as FACT by people who don't read this board

that is why people are quick to stamp on unfounded rumours that may be detrimental to the club (and possibly to the board itself in some cases)

Muttley Posted on 07/04/2008 22:25
Wheater on MOTD2

No surprise really that twonks who might have known Wheater at school / as he was growing up, now have nothing nice to say about him. Green eyed monster. Jealousy. And anyone who takes it as gospel is probably either simple or a pathetic no brain with a taste for malicious gossip.

More fool you YDMS, in fact shame on you for repeating it.

trevor_seniors_gums Posted on 07/04/2008 22:26
Wheater on MOTD2

Swayze.. having read this thread and taken time to digest the pros and cons i have come to the conclusion that

You are a snake like little man who us intensely jealous of the success Wheater is rightly enjoying.a and probably havent acheived a great deal in your own hollow little existence??

Crawl back under your rock little man..

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:31
Wheater on MOTD2

FFS! I had this same S*** with you on that God bothering thread before with your reluctance to understand. No it doesn't mention timescale because I've used that as further explanation and elaboration into the events. I did however explain on two different occasions about them being differing incidents which you've clearly ignored when you decided to make your first post in this thread.

I love this remark though:

"that is why people are quick to stamp on unfounded rumours that may be detrimental to the club (and possibly to the board itself in some cases)?

Really? What like the Judy McCourt thread or the numerous other threads on here that have slandered players not only from our club put from others? I don't see you quick to jump down their throats, you shameless F***ing hypocrite.

alvesdad Posted on 07/04/2008 22:33
Wheater on MOTD2

Wheater was class on MOTD2 brilliant Love the man
Swayze F--- off Jealous Loser

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 22:36
Wheater on MOTD2

Not really, you had a go at Rob and wrote "like I said, which you seem to have ignored is that these are things that I have heard by numerous and unconnected people".

The problem is tat you hadn't previously said it. "Like i said" more than implies that you had previously said it. This from someone who has consistently accused people of not reading your posts, or being able to read correctly. When we do we find inconsistencies and inaccuracies are plentiful.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:37
Wheater on MOTD2

"No surprise really that twonks who might have known Wheater at school / as he was growing up, now have nothing nice to say about him. Green eyed monster. Jealousy. And anyone who takes it as gospel is probably either simple or a pathetic no brain with a taste for malicious gossip.

More fool you YDMS, in fact shame on you for repeating it."

Putting aside the things I've heard about him from people that used to go to school. Over the years I have been told of two differing incidents that happened in Aruba in Redcar one involving my brother and one involving a college classmate. I have also been told of two differing road incidents one by my neighbour and one by a friend of my brother's. I have no reason to doubt them I can't understand why they would lie about such things either nor do I have any reason to lie to the people on this board. You need to F***ing deal with that.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:40
Wheater on MOTD2

"Swayze.. having read this thread and taken time to digest the pros and cons i have come to the conclusion that

You are a snake like little man who us intensely jealous of the success Wheater is rightly enjoying.a and probably havent acheived a great deal in your own hollow little existence??

Crawl back under your rock little man.."

Wow, I'm surprised it's taken this long for the old "jealously" S*** to be leveled at me quite why I'm jealous considering I've already F***ing explained that I'm proud of the lad that none of these incidents that have occurred have involved me is strange, or is it that you're such a simple F***ing cretin you can't form any sort of counter of defence or contribution to this thread? W*****.


Stabilo_Boss Posted on 07/04/2008 22:42
Wheater on MOTD2

Amazing work-rate from YDMS on this thread. You must have typed about 5000 words!

Mainly the same ones.

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 22:44
Wheater on MOTD2

What was the incident with your brother in Aruba?

trevor_seniors_gums Posted on 07/04/2008 22:45
Wheater on MOTD2

My contribution to this thread is simple and inspired by genius...

"You are jealous little c o c k"..

Quote from the famous Rivers of blood speech..

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:47
Wheater on MOTD2

"Not really, you had a go at Rob and wrote "like I said, which you seem to have ignored is that these are things that I have heard by numerous and unconnected people".

The problem is tat you hadn't previously said it. "Like i said" more than implies that you had previously said it. This from someone who has consistently accused people of not reading your posts, or being able to read correctly. When we do we find inconsistencies and inaccuracies are plentiful."

Well I can't explain the disappearance of the post I made in response to loislane5's 15:06 post where I told her about 2 mins after. Never mind some error has obviously been made. F*** it! I'll hold my hands up seeing as it's gone.

But please if you're going to take issues then at least learn to spell properly otherwise it bites you in the arse, dickhead.

Muttley Posted on 07/04/2008 22:50
Wheater on MOTD2

Ah I note the classic "spelling defence" [:D]

And you still comes across a jealous simpleton.

As my old ma would have said "if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing"

I really don't care whether or not these "incidents" are true or not. The point is you are spreading gossip like an old fishwife. It's pathetic. Do yourself a favour F*** off and re-register with a different username. Which whilst we're on the subject I find your choice of "humorous" name in bad taste, poking fun at a man who is dying of cancer.

There were a few questions as to your age earlier in the thread and there is nothing you have posted which would suggest you have advanced (mentally at least) beyond the age of fifteen.

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 22:50
Wheater on MOTD2

Where is my spelling mistake, or mistakes?

Getting abusive now, that's a bit pathetic too.

Jonicama Posted on 07/04/2008 22:51
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS - How can you reconcile being "proud of the lad" with him "apparently being a bit of a tosser".

If you believe him to be a tosser then why are you proud of him.

johnny_briggs Posted on 07/04/2008 22:51
Wheater on MOTD2

stabilo lol.

If I was going to war I'd want YDMS on my side. He would fight to the bitter end.

Would probably send him to over the top to act as cannon fodder though.

Gadgie Posted on 07/04/2008 22:54
Wheater on MOTD2

"Where have I claimed to be justified in the comments I made?"

You haven't. But without justification for the comments, they should not have been put forth. Whether you said the comments first or not is irrelevant since you're repeating them, without justification.

Unless you think they are justified? You say yourself, you have no reason to doubt the sources.

So which is it? Are your comments Justified or not?

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:56
Wheater on MOTD2

"Ah I note the classic "spelling defence" [:D]

And you still comes across a jealous simpleton.

As my old ma would have said "if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing"

I really don't care whether or not these "incidents" are true or not. The point is you are spreading gossip like an old fishwife. It's pathetic. Do yourself a favour F*** off and re-register with a different username. Which whilst we're on the subject I find your choice of "humorous" name in bad taste, poking fun at a man who is dying of cancer.

There were a few questions as to your age earlier in the thread and there is nothing you have posted which would suggest you have advanced (mentally at least) beyond the age of fifteen."

My word what a F***ing post!!!

Firstly poking fun at a man dying of cancer??? How did you come to that conclusion, you simple F***? I know Patrick has cancer but I'm hardly poking fun at him using his surname as a screen name.

Secondly jealous? How does this work then? Surely I'd have to be utter slamming the guy to be jealous of him. I have no contention about his choice in life and I think it's great that a local lad is playing for his local club. I'm proud of that as I've mentioned hours ago before you clowns started throwing the "jealously" remarks about.

Thirdly, ah the old "age" crap too!

I suggest you leave and try again Muttley, you're weak unoriginal and repetitive. I've heard this crap already in this thread. mate.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 22:59
Wheater on MOTD2

"stabilo lol.

If I was going to war I'd want YDMS on my side. He would fight to the bitter end.

Would probably send him to over the top to act as cannon fodder though."

They tend to use the braindead, no marks like you for that.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 07/04/2008 23:00
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS, rather than getting all defensive and carrying on the argument, thereby inviting the many insults thrown at you, why don't you hold your hand up and say:

"Ok, maybe I was wrong. It's only what I've heard third hand. I'll take it back."

That's all it would need.

Muttley Posted on 07/04/2008 23:00
Wheater on MOTD2

Keep sticking the pins in those dolls YDMS.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:05
Wheater on MOTD2

"YDMS, rather than getting all defensive and carrying on the argument, thereby inviting the many insults thrown at you, why don't you hold your hand up and say:

"Ok, maybe I was wrong. It's only what I've heard third hand. I'll take it back."

That's all it would need."

Wrong about what exactly, that I actually heard these people tell me these things?

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 23:06
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS, you spelt 'braindead' incorrectly as it's either two separate words or a hyphen is needed. Don't pull me up over mistakes without justification, only to go and make a mistake yourself.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:08
Wheater on MOTD2

You can't spell either, I guess we're evens then.

johnny_briggs Posted on 07/04/2008 23:09
Wheater on MOTD2

" "stabilo lol.

If I was going to war I'd want YDMS on my side. He would fight to the bitter end.

Would probably send him to over the top to act as cannon fodder though."

They tend to use the braindead, no marks like you for that. "

me and you on the frontline then.


For all your inane ramblings and your attention to detail when it comes to to what other people said and when, there is one word you missed and should have understood.



"TRUCE" rob_fmttm Posted on 07/04/2008 15:52


put it down to experience son, move on

grantus Posted on 07/04/2008 23:10
Wheater on MOTD2

My God!

I haevn't seen this sort of tenacity since I tried to get a stick off my uncles Staffy.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 07/04/2008 23:11
Wheater on MOTD2

No, wrong to post what you did earlier if it was as unfounded as you suggested later on. Why don't you just say "Ok, maybe it was unfounded tittle-tattle."

mickymacc Posted on 07/04/2008 23:12
Wheater on MOTD2

You_Drive_Me_Swayze,you still at it son?.Get yourself to bed,its school in the morning and I don't think you're a teacher.

Scrote Posted on 07/04/2008 23:12
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS - you implied that you wanted to know why people were being tetchy - i offered a reason

i didn't at any point say it was my reason

hardly hypocritical

and me asking you to rephrase or clarify a question is not a reluctance to understand - it is a lack of understanding full stop - hence the request for clarification (this in reference to the God thread in case you weren't sure)

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:16
Wheater on MOTD2

"johnny_briggs"

I left this thread and moved on, I come back though to find Scrote and fews other having a go. Naturally I'm going to respond to them, that's the nature of a message board is it not?

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 23:16
Wheater on MOTD2

You still haven't pointed me in the direction of my mistake though. If i have made a mistake, as your are saying, it hardly quantifies me as 'not being able to spell'.

foggysfplandiet2 Posted on 07/04/2008 23:19
Wheater on MOTD2

This could be the first 1000 thread!

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:21
Wheater on MOTD2

"YDMS - you implied that you wanted to know why people were being tetchy - i offered a reason

i didn't at any point say it was my reason

hardly hypocritical

and me asking you to rephrase or clarify a question is not a reluctance to understand - it is a lack of understanding full stop - hence the request for clarification (this in reference to the God thread in case you weren't sure)"

Oh God, you really are a F***ing joke aren't you?

Need I remind you of this again that shows your hypocrisy? I've even provided a link whereby you can see for yourself the slanderous remarks being made so that you can go and preach to them too.

"that is why people are quick to stamp on unfounded rumours that may be detrimental to the club (and possibly to the board itself in some cases)?

Really? What like the Judy McCourt thread or the numerous other threads on here that have slandered players not only from our club put from others? I don't see you quick to jump down their throats, you shameless F***ing hypocrite."


Link: Run along little boy.

johnny_briggs Posted on 07/04/2008 23:24
Wheater on MOTD2

You sound like a smoker who thinks it's easy to quit as he's done it a hundred times.

Whilst the purpose of a message board is to debate, it is not to debate that black is white and visa versa.

It's a bigger man who walks away. Walk away, big man.

PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 23:25
Wheater on MOTD2

FFS are you still going on? God YDMS you speak a lot of garbage but dont bother listening to what people are telling you.


'Wrong about what exactly, that I actually heard these people tell me these things?'

You have now had lots of people telling you from their experiences that they think hes an ok lad.

grantus Posted on 07/04/2008 23:26
Wheater on MOTD2

It's quite impressinve to be honest.

Jonicama Posted on 07/04/2008 23:27
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS - Can you respond to my question on my e-mail of 22.51.


You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:30
Wheater on MOTD2

"FFS are you still going on? God YDMS you speak a lot of garbage but dont bother listening to what people are telling you.


'Wrong about what exactly, that I actually heard these people tell me these things?'

You have now had lots of people telling you from their experiences that they think hes an ok lad."

Yes, which have been taken on board what's the point you're getting at, that I should dismiss what I've been previously told by people in place of what some folk on an Internet forum say?

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 07/04/2008 23:36
Wheater on MOTD2

"Yes, which have been taken on board what's the point you're getting at, that I should dismiss what I've been previously told by people in place of what some folk on an Internet forum say?"

So are you saying you believe the third hand rumours that you've heard or those that have met the lad? If you do accept what the likes or Rob et al have said, can you point out where you attempted to dismiss what you said earlier as unfounded tittle-tattle? Did you post what you said about him earlier as gospel or unsubstantiated rumour?

PAC79 Posted on 07/04/2008 23:36
Wheater on MOTD2

Just glad you took them on board mate. I Didn't say dismiss what you had believed previously, if you believe that then so be it. 158 posts later i dont think you would listen to what people have to say anyway.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:38
Wheater on MOTD2

"YDMS - Can you respond to my question on my e-mail of 22.51."

And what if I choose not to?

LeitrimBoro Posted on 07/04/2008 23:41
Wheater on MOTD2

I thought the man had problems when I read some of his other posts. Proved correct in that assumption.
Swayze. Seek help. I honestly believe you have serious issues.

Jonicama Posted on 07/04/2008 23:45
Wheater on MOTD2

"YDMS - Can you respond to my question on my e-mail of 22.51."

And what if I choose not to?


You've argued with everyone about everything - I'd be interested in your line or arguement which reconciles you being proud of Wheater whilst taking the view that he is a tosser.

johnny_briggs Posted on 07/04/2008 23:45
Wheater on MOTD2

" "YDMS - Can you respond to my question on my e-mail of 22.51."

And what if I choose not to? "



you could have chose not to for a long time. You have no answer to that like you've provided no credible answer to anything you've replied to yet. Walk away.

king_hellfire Posted on 07/04/2008 23:49
Wheater on MOTD2

There are some right hypocrites on this board.

You all take the p!ss out of the Newcastle fans for leaving their messageboard and starting a new one because they don't like it when people disagree with them.

Whenever you all get fed up of Newcastle fans winding you up on here you tell them to go over to their new messageboard and join in all the backslapping amongst the Newcastle fans, where if anyone dares disagree they get an immediate ban and everyone can live in delusional bliss.

YDMS has posted things that he has been told in relation to Wheater that differs with the majority of peoples opinions on here and nobody likes it, so he is being attacked from all quarters (the very thing you accuse the Newcastle fans of). They are not his views, they are other peoples views that he is relaying to you.

Is it really that hard to believe that nobody is perfect and that Wheater may have been a dick from time to time and that whoever is in the vicinity at the time will remember him as being a dick.

A few posters on here have even said that if they were in Wheaters position they would be acting a bit C****y.

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 23:49
Wheater on MOTD2

Still not replied to me either.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:53
Wheater on MOTD2

"So are you saying you believe the third hand rumours that you've heard or those that have met the lad? If you do accept what the likes or Rob et al have said, can you point out where you attempted to dismiss what you said earlier as unfounded tittle-tattle? Did you post what you said about him earlier as gospel or unsubstantiated rumour?"

Look for F***'s sake, what I'm saying is when my brother comes home and tells me something that involved Wheater and some of his friends I have no reason to doubt a single word of it or when I get told something else by a completely different person about his behaviour in Redcar at night okay?

When a neighbour tells me that he had a bit of agro from him on a road I have no reason to doubt him. When my brother's friend mentions that he too has had issues with him on the road ages after my neighbour's incident what reason do I have to doubt him or any of the other things from people that I've been told? Should I just ignore all this and listen to what someone a forum are saying instead?

johnny_briggs Posted on 07/04/2008 23:54
Wheater on MOTD2

King_hellfire I think you have missed the point. Noboday cares about the subject. We are all to busy poking sticks into lion enclosure waiting for the inevitable backlash. it has nothing to do with wheater now.

BoroInLondon Posted on 07/04/2008 23:57
Wheater on MOTD2

Still repeating the same thing, over and over again.

king_hellfire Posted on 07/04/2008 23:58
Wheater on MOTD2

OH, Fair enough then johnny.

Have you got a stick i can borrow mate, i haven't brought one with me. [:D]

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 07/04/2008 23:58
Wheater on MOTD2

"You've argued with everyone about everything - I'd be interested in your line or arguement which reconciles you being proud of Wheater whilst taking the view that he is a tosser."

Go read my posts and you should be able to work it out for yourself.

johnny_briggs Posted on 08/04/2008 00:01
Wheater on MOTD2

hellfire - it looks like YDMS is still selling them. He must be making a canny profit.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 00:02
Wheater on MOTD2

"Still repeating the same thing, over and over again."

Well some have difficulty understanding. They jump in after the thread has already clocked up many posts and understandably haven't a clue. I hold onto a faint glimmer of hope that at least one idiot that has misunderstood something will actually read the comments instead of presuming that *I* think Wheater is a tosser despite never actually saying such.

Jonicama Posted on 08/04/2008 00:05
Wheater on MOTD2

YDMS

I can't work it out from your previous posts.

It is not a difficult question - how do you reconcile you being proud of Wheater with your comments that he is a tosser.

LeitrimBoro Posted on 08/04/2008 00:05
Wheater on MOTD2

Swayze...Remember the other night? When your temper started to go into meltdown. Yes. Good.
Remember what we talked about? Yes, thats right. The Breathing techniques. Deep breath in. Hold it and out. Nice and relaxed. Getting better? Good.
Do you remember the balloon? All your anger in the balloon. Floating ever upwards. Thats better. Now lie down and tell me about your childhood. I`m listening.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 00:09
Wheater on MOTD2

"YDMS

I can't work it out from your previous posts.

It is not a difficult question - how do you reconcile you being proud of Wheater with your comments that he is a tosser."

Because it's not my opinion that he is a tosser as clearly mentioned God knows how many times starting from my very first post in this thread and as I've said; I couldn't care less what he does (as long as it doesn't involve me) as long as he does the business on the pitch.

Do you understand now, you half-wit?

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 00:10
Wheater on MOTD2

The balloon popped, do you not remember?

LeitrimBoro Posted on 08/04/2008 00:13
Wheater on MOTD2

Think of a bigger balloon. Thats all.
Your doing fine now.
Floating higher and higher. Nothing to stop it.

Jonicama Posted on 08/04/2008 00:14
Wheater on MOTD2

Apparently he's a tosser in real-life

and

Because it's not my opinion that he is a tosser

You're just arguing against yourself.

I'm off to bed now.

king_hellfire Posted on 08/04/2008 00:17
Wheater on MOTD2

Jonicama posted...

'It is not a difficult question - how do you reconcile you being proud of Wheater with your comments that he is a tosser.'


This is YDMS first post.

'Apparently he's a tosser in real-life goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff. What I've heard anyway'


apˈparently.(adverb) = I hear that.

So basically, he is saying...

'I hear that he's a tosser in real-life goes about in his Beemer showing off to people and stuff. What I've heard anyway'

So, in no way can that be construed as being his belief.



Mr_Black Posted on 08/04/2008 00:26
Wheater on MOTD2

Wheater isn't actually a tosser. He isn't big-headed. He doesn't drive around in his Beemer revving the engine. The End.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 08/04/2008 00:26
Wheater on MOTD2

I've heard that he's a decent young centre back, allegedly. Just a rumour, like. A lot of people who frequent the TS3 area every other Saturday seem to think so, as does some Italian gadge called Fabio.

Please note, these are only opinions, mostly from other people.

rob_fmttm Posted on 08/04/2008 00:27
Wheater on MOTD2

I cannot believe you haven't let this drop yet. Beyond belief.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 00:27
Wheater on MOTD2

"Apparently he's a tosser in real-life

and

Because it's not my opinion that he is a tosser

You're just arguing against yourself.

I'm off to bed now."

Have you not bothered to read the thread as you claim to have done? Have you just skipped over the F***ing God knows how many times that I've explained this previously?

Yes, apparently in real-life he is a bit of a tosser, given that the incidents that I have been told involving people that I know certainly suggest to me that it's understandable why these people think like that. It's not my opinion simply because I've never met the lad, and even so the things I've been told don't paint him in a good light they are not my experiences. Just as Woodgate with the whole affray thing; nothing to do with me but I'm proud that a fellow Teessider has made a name for himself in the world of football despite his despicable behaviour, which is a stain on his character.

Is that clearer for you, retard?

king_helfire:- it's ultimately pointless trying to explain that concept to some on here.

Fischer Posted on 08/04/2008 00:42
Wheater on MOTD2

I spent about two hours with David Wheater last week, he was lovely. Completely down-to-Earth and very good company.

rob_fmttm Posted on 08/04/2008 00:45
Wheater on MOTD2

Swayze - you really need to go to bed and get some rest.

I'd even think about coming back with another name tomorrow if I was you.

Seriously.

Boromart Posted on 08/04/2008 00:45
Wheater on MOTD2

Grantus, your right, he is very impressive in the same way that Darwin Award winners are impressive.

So this all boils down to 2 second hand tails. a motoring incident, who hasnt shouted abuse at a fellow motorist? secondly a"nightclub" incident, again who hasn't had some minor scuffle on the sauce. by all accounts the lad rarely drinks now anyway.

If the lad is branded a tosser for these 2 minor incidents while still a teenager then I suspect that at least 99% of the people on here are also tossers

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 00:47
Wheater on MOTD2

"Swayze - you really need to go to bed and get some rest.

I'd even think about coming back with another name tomorrow if I was you.

Seriously."

Why should I be ashamed simply because some people disagree with me?

rob_fmttm Posted on 08/04/2008 00:54
Wheater on MOTD2

Why? I would have thought in the cold light of a new day that would be obvious.

I've even thought whether I should ban your name - think of it like a mercy killing.


You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 00:54
Wheater on MOTD2

"Grantus, your right, he is very impressive in the same way that Darwin Award winners are impressive.

So this all boils down to 2 second hand tails. a motoring incident, who hasnt shouted abuse at a fellow motorist? secondly a"nightclub" incident, again who hasn't had some minor scuffle on the sauce. by all accounts the lad rarely drinks now anyway.

If the lad is branded a tosser for these 2 minor incidents while still a teenager then I suspect that at least 99% of the people on here are also tossers"

What a load of S***!

Don't try and dilute the situation and fabricate things that you know F*** all about. It's more than just shouting abuse at a motorist and a minor scuffle as you erroneously put it, get your facts right before mouthing off sunshine.

Denouncing them as "2 minor incidents" despite the fact I've clearly mentioned there have been more shows you're way off the marks in regards to this topic.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 00:58
Wheater on MOTD2

Well rob you may not agree with me fine, the language that I've used may not have been appropriate either, fair enough, but take a look elsewhere in this thread at the abuse aimed at me, Are we not allowed opinions anymore? If people insist on asking me questions I'm going to respond. You're not one of these people who ban simply because they don't like what another is saying are you?

In fact what about the slanderous allegations made in the Judy McCourt thread?

Mr_Black Posted on 08/04/2008 00:59
Wheater on MOTD2

"things that you know F*** all about"

So a little bit like your (and my) knowledge of wether or not Wheater is a tosser then. If you come onto a middlesbrough message board posting hearsay about one of the best young players at the club you're going to get stick. What have you actually achieved? I doubt anyone's oppinions on Wheater have changed trough this thread. All I care about is that he's a damn good centre half and he comes across very well in interviews.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 01:04
Wheater on MOTD2

"So a little bit like your (and my) knowledge of wether or not Wheater is a tosser then. If you come onto a middlesbrough message board posting hearsay about one of the best young players at the club you're going to get stick. What have you actually achieved? I doubt anyone's oppinions on Wheater have changed trough this thread. All I care about is that he's a damn good centre half and he comes across very well in interviews."

As I have said for goodness sake I don't think he's a tosser because I don't know him nor have had any experience involving him either, people that I know have though hence the original comment.

As I've said; it seems that some just aren't prepared to accept that maybe he isn't the glowing boy wonder and great character some says he is. Why is that so difficult for some to accept?

rob_fmttm Posted on 08/04/2008 01:05
Wheater on MOTD2

Judy thread exactly right. As I said to you back when you started this diatribe back in the Jurassic Period I think I always remove stuff like that when I see it. I was out tonight. I come back in and I would have expected you of all people to have told those making allegations to edit them.

You'll note I removed the thread immediately.

I know where to draw the line - you on the other hand ...

Mr_Black Posted on 08/04/2008 01:08
Wheater on MOTD2

So I'm supposed to allow my perception of Wheater to be influenced by what you post? So your mate tells you something, you tell me and i beleive there's maybe some truth in it. I then go and tell my mate who by the same logic should be "prepared to accept" that there's maybe some truth in it? And on and on and on. That's how rumours spread and they're usually complete bullS*** made up by some tosser trying to show off.

Scrote Posted on 08/04/2008 01:08
Wheater on MOTD2

1. if juninho had punched my brother without provocation i'd think he was a tosser no matter how good a player he was for the boro

2. the link you provided isn't pointing to the thread you seem to think it is

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 01:10
Wheater on MOTD2

It's not my responsibility to tell people on here what to do is it rob? I do seem to remember making a comment in that thread about slanderous accusations given that some were happy to blast me in here yet say things in there about her.

The thing is rob if people are going to ask questions and get on at me about this then I'm going to respond, right? If they can't accept that then why is it my fault?

king_hellfire Posted on 08/04/2008 01:15
Wheater on MOTD2

Rob has deleted the thread, Scrote.

Scrote Posted on 08/04/2008 01:15
Wheater on MOTD2

k - np

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 01:17
Wheater on MOTD2

"So I'm supposed to allow my perception of Wheater to be influenced by what you post? So your mate tells you something, you tell me and i beleive there's maybe some truth in it. I then go and tell my mate who by the same logic should be "prepared to accept" that there's maybe some truth in it? And on and on and on. That's how rumours spread and they're usually complete bullS*** made up by some tosser trying to show off."

Not at all I'm simply stating that opinions of this guy aren't all the same. I couldn't give a F*** if some Internet bloke doesn't believe me or not nor could I care if he accepts what I'm saying is true. My brother tells me something about himself, Wheater and his entourage/friends I don't start thinking "Oh yeah he must be lying, he's simply spreading rumours".

I guess ignorance is bliss.

bolton_94 Posted on 08/04/2008 01:20
Wheater on MOTD2

you sad B****** swayze, i cant belive you are arguing over such a little thing, will you pipe down, im sick of seeing this thread

rob_fmttm Posted on 08/04/2008 01:23
Wheater on MOTD2

And you will forever be in blissful ignorance of just how compulsive obsessive your behaviour has been today.


You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 01:24
Wheater on MOTD2

Well then rather than contributing to it, F*** off and let it die, you idiot.

Mr_Black Posted on 08/04/2008 01:25
Wheater on MOTD2

"Not at all."

I count that as a win Swayze. Good night.

You_Drive_Me_Swayze Posted on 08/04/2008 01:27
Wheater on MOTD2

Well rob that's me, if I feel aggrieved, if someone feels the need to challenge me or question me then I'll debate/discuss/argue the points of contention. Why should I let misunderstandings go unabated?

br14 Posted on 08/04/2008 01:38
Wheater on MOTD2

Classic case of defending an indefensible position.

By the time you've made three or four posts of questionable voracity, you have no choice but to defend your position or accept you've been silly. So off you go on a tirade into an ever deeping spiral of obsession trying to defend the indefensible despite the tidal wave of evidence to the contrary.

Some people find accepting they've said something idiotic harder than others. I find it gets easier with practise.

So much better to quit while you still appear fairly reasonable.

GroggySlaggySmoggy Posted on 08/04/2008 01:42
Wheater on MOTD2

You_Drive_Me_Swayze

Do you ring up 'You're on Sky Sports'having been on hold since last Wednesday costing one pound fifty a minute and no-one gives a sh1t what you say?Just wondering!

Gillandi Posted on 08/04/2008 03:18
Wheater on MOTD2

Met him only once and a humbler, more grounded BMW owner I have yet to have the pleasure of shunting on the Trunk Rd.

As we exchanged insurance details he told me he planned to retire in 10 years time to persue an acting career in Hollywood playing suave villians in big budget costume dramas and swashbucklers. I told him that I'd thought of Basil Rathbone the very first time I saw him playing for the youths. I came away convinced there isn't a chandelier too high for this meek and engaging individual.

ravs Posted on 08/04/2008 05:16
Wheater on MOTD2

Gillandi, that's entirely consistent with my impressions of the very same young man I had the pleasure of a short yet memorable discussion with a couple of years back in Eindhoven.

Not sure about Basil, but he'll deffo surpass Vinnie Jones in terms of both footballing and the silver screen.

johnny_briggs Posted on 08/04/2008 07:49
Wheater on MOTD2

Can't believe YDMS has gone and given up without even putting up a fight. He's gone down in my estimation. What ever happened to those who stood up for what they believe in (or what other people tell them).

smogchris87 Posted on 08/04/2008 08:59
Wheater on MOTD2

I cant believe I started a weak thread about Wheater an achieved a double century!

goalscrounger Posted on 08/04/2008 09:00
Wheater on MOTD2

Can someone save this thread before Rob presses the Big Red Button by mistake again?! [:)]

Boromart Posted on 08/04/2008 09:11
Wheater on MOTD2

"Don't try and dilute the situation and fabricate things" -- well you have given no detail of these alledged incidents, and no proof. Since I haven't heard anything in the press about about related incidents and police involvement then I think it's a fair assumption that these were the kind of every day minor incidents. You say these are two of many....well detail them or shut up, you havne't actually said anything he is supposed to have done. Just allusions without any detail whatsoever.

I suggest you also change your tone, your being abusive to EVERYONE on this thread for no apparant reason. If you stood in a pub arguing with 15 differant people in this tone you would have been beaten to a bloody pulp by at least 8 or 9 of them by now. Your acting very immature, mnore so than any previous poster I can ever remember, and I'm not sure if you are just on a sad windup or a complete prat which is it?

stuar_tripley Posted on 08/04/2008 10:46
Wheater on MOTD2

oh dear- some people could start a fight in an empty room!!