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SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:05
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

the reason the police wont do anything is cos there scared of getting hauled over the coals for accidently killling someone, as happened before with that poor old codger who got pushed over

the press were so quick to jump on the back of the rozzers that they wont dare engage with these mindless scumbags in that london now.

was blown out of all proportion and now we have anarchy.

disgrace

ron_manager Posted on 09/08/2011 12:08
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

Superbok you are Superidiot[:o)]

SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:09
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

lol

ok maybe not the sole issue but its the reason the police are being such f4nnies about the whole thing.

gravyboat Posted on 09/08/2011 12:11
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

No it isn't.

ron_manager Posted on 09/08/2011 12:11
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

Superbok it's a lack of clear leadership from those that matter.

It was interesting to hear on the news yesterday that if a copper is not riot trained he cannot be deployed into a riot situation....needless to say most cops are not riot trained.

SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:15
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and thats just happened in the last 2 years since the torys came into power has it?

do you lot really think these doyles have any political motive / preference / idea about what each party stands for anyway?

these are young scumbags on the rob, thats it, with the police too scared to do anything about it.

i reckon in boro there would be enough people standing up to these idiots, shame the londoners didnt.

ron_manager Posted on 09/08/2011 12:17
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

No I don't think these doyles have a political motive...I would have more respect for them if they did. What they have is apathy towards politicians at best and hatred at worst...that in itself could be seen as a motiviating factor...a lack of respect for power.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 09/08/2011 12:19
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

"the reason the police wont do anything is cos there scared of getting hauled over the coals for accidently killling someone"

What, like that thing that happened in Tottenham you mean? I'm presuming that's what you're referring to.

SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:22
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

no i was referring to that old codger who got pushed over about a year ago during student / anarchist riots.

and that brazillian bloke who they shot cos he ran away from them.

now they wont do anything.


SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:23
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

maybe my title should read:

Riots = unstoppable due to tabloid press (i.e not caused by them)???

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 09/08/2011 12:24
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

"now they wont do anything."

Remind me what triggered these incidents off...

ron_manager Posted on 09/08/2011 12:25
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

The Brazillian you refer to was Charles de Menezes and he ran away because 6 plainclothed coppers were running at him with loaded guns...

The "old codger" you refer to was simply trying to get home when a police man hit him...

Superbok you really are doing nothing to improve your mental image on here.

SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:26
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

eh?


SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:29
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

dont run away from police when they have guns and tell you to stop is a fair deal in my opinion

other bloke is a tragic story but blown out of all proportion.


gravyboat Posted on 09/08/2011 12:30
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

Ian Tomlinson was 51 when he unlawfully killed by a policeman.

I assume you think the judge went 'over the top' as well?

SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:31
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

so why arent the police engaging with the rioters then and putting this to bed?


gravyboat Posted on 09/08/2011 12:32
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

You'd need to ask David Cameron that.

Or maybe Danny Baker.

FartingGnome Posted on 09/08/2011 12:33
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

Seen some idiots on here in the past but ....

SuperBok Posted on 09/08/2011 12:33
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

yer i'll give dave a ring.....

so seeing as you are all intelligent leftie champagne socialists, what would be your answer now?

army?

curfew?


Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 09/08/2011 12:46
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

Here's me thinking it was minorities

KingOfTheTribes Posted on 09/08/2011 13:25
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

Charles de Menezes was an illigal imigrant. He would still be alive if he had gone home when he was told... but that's for another thread...


viv_andersons_nana Posted on 09/08/2011 13:26
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

He wasn't an illegal immigrant.*


*going off the initial IPC report he wasn't, anyway.

Besides, it doesn't really matter whether he was an 'illegal' or not. He'd still have been shot because the police mistook him for someone else.

ron_manager Posted on 09/08/2011 13:30
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

King that is such a cuunt thing to say[V]

sasboro1 Posted on 09/08/2011 13:31
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not enough police on the streets to cope with it all. they could go in and make a few arrests but then that's a couple less police available as they have to take the arrested away to the station. then there is finding the room for all those arrested. then there is the safety of the police officers. its frustrating seeing the police just standing there while things get looted or burnt. they just don't have the manpower to handle it. so all they can do is contain it in a small area and let them disperse eventually. it was kicking off all over the place and the police could be everywhere.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 09/08/2011 13:32
Riots = Tabloid Presses fault

"According to the Home Office, he arrived in Britain on 13 March 2002, on a six-month visitor's visa. After its expiry, he applied to stay on as a student, and was granted permission to remain until 30 June 2003. The Home Office said it had no record of any further correspondence, but added: "We have seen a copy of Mr Menezes' passport, containing a stamp apparently giving him indefinite leave to remain in the UK. On investigation, this stamp was not one that was in use by the Immigration and Nationality Directorate on the date given." This was denied by the family of Menezes; and Foreign Secretary Jack Straw stated that he believed Menezes was living in the UK legally, but had no precise information to confirm this.[2] Immigration records in fact show that Menezes entered the Republic of Ireland from France on 23 April 2005. There are no records to show the exact date that he returned to the UK; however, under the Common Travel Area system, a foreign citizen entering the UK through the Republic of Ireland has an automatic right to remain for three months. Therefore, Menezes was lawfully in the UK on the day he was killed, irrespective of his previous immigration status."

Interesting last sentence that isn't it.