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Big_Ted_Church Posted on 25/05/2011 14:30
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Hopefully it won't be too long until we follow suit. [^]

Smelly, dirty, selfish, yellow-teethed XXXXXXrs.


Link: crackdown

Capybara Posted on 25/05/2011 14:32
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Tom de Castella [smi]


MoggasDog Posted on 25/05/2011 14:34
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i think people should be allowed to smoke in public but only using a massive plastic bag over their heads.

or a spacesuit.

FlarPhone_Warehouse Posted on 25/05/2011 14:35
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you should be allowed to smoke wherever you want and all the whining puffs should stay at home if they dont like it

OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 14:36
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I crave the day our polititions become brave enough to introduce it here. I can smell a smoker at a mile off.

flaps Posted on 25/05/2011 14:38
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I fail to see what's selfish about smoking outside away from other people.

Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 25/05/2011 14:40
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Hope it catches on here [^]

spider_man Posted on 25/05/2011 14:51
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I've got to admit from a selfish perspective I would love to be able to sit in a beer garden and not come home stinking of smoke and feeling like I've inhaled half a pack myself. This tends to be a bigger problem in beer gardens that have sunshades or other roof structures which allow the smoke to linger.

However, from a practical perspective I am thankful that smoking indoors is not permitted and would not personally push for smoking in beer gardens to be banned too, despite finding it a completely disgusting habit.

If the plan is to ban people from smoking outside then we might as well just ban smoking altogether and get it over and done with.

My preference would be for pubs to make outdoor non-smoking areas.

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 14:51
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I see the non-smoker nazis are getting their vaginal lips all in a twist again. Smoking in public places will never be banned, as long as it's in the open air. Get over it, and yourselves. [smi]


OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 14:55
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Filthy, dirty habit second only to religion in my pet hates folder.[:D]

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 14:58
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Good job most people don't give a flying f_uckmonkey about your pet hates then isn't it? [8)]

OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 15:00
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Seagulls are in there too[:D]

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 15:01
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I communicated with them and they don't give a frig either. [:P]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 25/05/2011 15:06
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smoking ban in public places is crucial to the health of all of us.

if they want to kill themselves then let them, but dont let them take us with them

flaps Posted on 25/05/2011 15:07
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"smoking ban in public places is crucial to the health of all of us."

I think you're exaggerating a little bit.

London_Boro Posted on 25/05/2011 15:12
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FFS, we got them out of pubs/clubs/restaurants etc and made them go outside, now you want them out of Beer gardens/public spaces??

I'm an ex-smoker and was over the moon when the indoor smoking ban came in, but jesus wept, there's fck all wrong with people smoking outside! get a grip!

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 15:13
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Razmond on his usual tedious wind-up routine, what a turn-up for the books... why is there no yawn smiley?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 25/05/2011 15:16
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i remember when beer gardens used to be nice places to sit in and have a pint. Not anymore with the congression of smokers.

The same goes for the smokers that hang outside a pub.

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 15:18
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Get a grip you woman.

Hurworth Posted on 25/05/2011 15:18
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I saw this on the news at lunchtime and New York is seriously attacking smokers so it will follow across the pond to here too.

I am a non-smoker and I too was pleased that smoking in pubs and restaurants was banned but where do the the poor bggers go now for a ciggie. Smokers are akin to Lepers these days.

There is no doubt that there are fewer smokers since the pub ban, and that's good for the health of those who have given up, but is this latest drive too much, too soon?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 25/05/2011 15:20
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it is crucial to the health of this country and is a cheap way of making the country much greener

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 15:21
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In a word, yes. Smoking in an open air environment is not harming anybody but the smokers themselves. Live and let fcking live.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 25/05/2011 15:24
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it is still harming the environment and people around them. please dont be fooled that just because it is outside it is harming no one else

Oooo Posted on 25/05/2011 15:26
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Amazed at the vitriol toward smokers. I mean I understand it inside but outside ffs. What about car exhaust fumes and the damage they do. If someone smokes near you outside and you can smell it just ask them to move. No need to ban it.Crazy what peopel get worked up about nowadays

free_pint Posted on 25/05/2011 15:27
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What's the point in doing that?

Ban it outside, then you must allow it back inside. Make your mind up. It's only a bit of smoke.

I'm a non-smoker, but I have no issues with other's who want to. Clubs smell much worse these days than they did when smoking was allowed.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 25/05/2011 15:27
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Let's ban cars and lorries as well. I don't drive so why should I have to breathe in the sh*te that they pump out all day long?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 25/05/2011 15:28
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smoking should be consigned to private homes and areas only.

you dont smoke but you prefer the smell of smoke filled places than non smoke filled places, how odd.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 25/05/2011 15:30
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viv that is happening in town centres.

well said [^]

Oooo Posted on 25/05/2011 15:32
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Are we allowed to fart outside? [:D]

OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 15:32
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We should just shoot all smokers. Problem solved.[;)][;)]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 25/05/2011 15:34
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OPEO i think there has been times when conflict to do with this issue has created just that happening in places like New York.

Sea_Harrier Posted on 25/05/2011 15:38
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"Are we allowed to fart outside?"

Yes, but only silent ones.[:D]

OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 15:42
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The smoker that gives in to a polite request I don't mind. Those that choose to ignore and carry on must accept whatever befalls them.

keelo Posted on 25/05/2011 15:43
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Seagulls are in there too
talking of seagulls, coming over the bridge this morning and a young father had a small baby girl (maybe 2) on his shoulders,she was eating a cake or something similar,a fkn gull swooped down and snatched it out of her hand,she was terrified.......death penalty to all tourists found feeding the fkn things!!!!![:(!]
and if anyone is looking for a seagull exterminator,Im yer man[^]

foggysfplandiet Posted on 25/05/2011 15:46
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"Are we allowed to fart outside?"

Yes. Farts don't cause lung cancer, heart disease, etc.

OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 15:49
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Never ceases to amaze me when I watch seemingly intelligent people do something that advertises probable death if you participate.[:D]

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 15:50
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I feed seagulls when I feel like it, and there's not a thing you or anyone else can do about it. [smi]

OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 15:52
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And on that comment Scubes I predict you're in the latter category.[:D]

wildchildjim Posted on 25/05/2011 15:52
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The late great Bill Hicks put it best....[:D]

I have something to tell you non-smokers that I know for a fact that you don't know, and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times. Ready?. . . . Non-smokers die every day . . . Enjoy your evening. See, I know that you entertain this eternal life fantasy because you've chosen not to smoke, but let me be the 1st to POP that bubble and bring you hurling back to reality . . . You're dead too.


Oooo Posted on 25/05/2011 15:52
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Yes but that is our choice OPEO, or in a lot of cases it is the result of an addiction that is legal. Much better would be for governments to invest in helping people to stop rather than bringing in increasingly nanny state draconian laws. There needs to be a shift in the NHS away from an over reliance on NRTs which only slightly work and toward better methods.

flaps Posted on 25/05/2011 15:54
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So when are we going to ban drinking then?

HarryVegas Posted on 25/05/2011 15:56
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Raz - do you drive? If so, please stop now. Exhaust fumes are far more harmful to people than ciggy smoke. So no more trains or aeroplanes either. Ok with you?

foggysfplandiet Posted on 25/05/2011 16:06
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"Exhaust fumes are far more harmful to people than ciggy smoke."

How many people die each year through inhaling other peoples' exhaust smoke?

HarryVegas Posted on 25/05/2011 16:08
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And how many people do you think die each year through 2nd hand smoking in the outdoors?

spider_man Posted on 25/05/2011 16:08
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Exhaust fumes far more harmful than ciggies?

I think not:

http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/healthyliving/harmfulsubstances/airpollutionandradon/

See Air Pollution vs Smoking section! You can't just quote randomly as if you know it is a fact.

Capybara Posted on 25/05/2011 16:21
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That only deals with smoking v air pollution as a cause of cancer. It doesn't deal with other diseases. And the only figures it gives for passive smoking are for enclosed spaces not outdoors. And the longer-term effects of vehicle fumes, the effect on the climate, doesn't get a look in.

OPEO Posted on 25/05/2011 16:24
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There are not many intelligent smokers by the looks of this thread so maybe they should start putting pictures on the boxes of ciggies?[:D]

japsterboro Posted on 25/05/2011 16:29
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Its all good news.[^]

It drives me mad in summer ... you want to sit outside a nice bar etc and get a bite to eat but you're surrounded by a thick cloud of Superking smoke so you go inside. [^]

Big_Ted_Church Posted on 25/05/2011 17:17
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I just like seeing these smelly people annoyed. It's class. [^]

Starbuck Posted on 25/05/2011 17:29
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To be fair since the ban was introduced ther's a lot more pubs with beer gardens so caps off to the smokers.

Any government with a true desire to help with peoples health would just ban the sale of them. What we're seeing now is pandering.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 25/05/2011 17:53
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'Any government with a true desire to help with peoples health would just ban the sale of them.'

With alcohol to follow?

Edwin Posted on 25/05/2011 17:55
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If non smokers want to sit outside, smoke free, in beer gardens on warm days, can I sit inside from May to September & puff away?

I'ld like to see a ban on drunken oafs - inside & out.

delgrapos Posted on 25/05/2011 18:39
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They'll be telling you that you can't smoke spliffs in public next, tsk tsk

flaps Posted on 25/05/2011 18:53
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Any argument against smoking can be applied to alcohol.

The sooner drinking is banned outside the home the better.

The_same_as_before Posted on 25/05/2011 18:53
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Never smoked in my life. Before that law comes
in any bloke drunk should get 5 years.

Edwin Posted on 25/05/2011 19:05
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Just athought - should New York ban guns in public places before ciggies?

Jimmythemoonlight Posted on 25/05/2011 19:18
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I love smoking.It doesnt bother me that my habit makes non-smokers smell because thats just hard luck.Everyone knows smokers are more interesting and fun to be with antway.Find something else to moan about[^]

dodger Posted on 25/05/2011 19:42
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Spider-man , what a tool you are.
"Exhaust fumes far more harmful than ciggies?

I think not:"

Do a simple experiment , sit in a closed garage with say 10 smokers , you will smell of smoke.

Sit in a closed garage with a car running , you will die within 5 mins [xx(]


Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 20:24
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Bill Hicks definitely put it best. [^]

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 21:17
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Pack of fannies. A bunch of people termed as 'smoggies' for a reason, and it's somebody having a smoke nearby that bothers you?


Barnsy Posted on 25/05/2011 21:21
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Hooked on tobacco!! Give up you losers.

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 21:23
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Barnsy, I think you'll find it's losers that give up.

Personally, I'm no quitter.[ref]

Barnsy Posted on 25/05/2011 21:24
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Go on lad[^]

mickymacc Posted on 25/05/2011 21:25
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Ironic that you now go inside a pub to get away from the smell and the nuisance.I love smokers,they die younger and I'll get more in my pension pot.Go on oafs,suck it up.[^][:D]

Scubahood Posted on 25/05/2011 21:28
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I don't want to give it up. I enjoy a few smokes throughout the day. Keeps me sane(ish). And I honestly don't care if it's going to contribute to a premature death. So fck off. [smi]

Oooo Posted on 25/05/2011 21:28
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Sometimes I am amazed at the nastiness that pervades this board,

Barnsy Posted on 25/05/2011 21:29
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I'm told that some people even smoke sXXXXXX![rle]

mickymacc Posted on 25/05/2011 21:35
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Why smoke when there are more interesting,less addictive drugs you can take.[^]

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 21:49
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Pension pot? I'll be resting in peace long after you think you're going to be retired.[^]

another_waster Posted on 25/05/2011 22:02
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If they banned smoking I simply wouldn't go to pubs anymore. And more people would also, then your precious pubs will close. So think about what ya wishing for!

icarus1965 Posted on 25/05/2011 22:04
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it is not very nice for ones with

ASTHMA

you get a gob load of 2nd hand smoke and your coughing for the hour...

flaps Posted on 25/05/2011 22:08
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peanuts are no good for people with nut allergies

best ban them too

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 25/05/2011 22:14
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What a daft thing to say. If someone has a nut allergy, they're not going to eat peanuts are they? Someone with asthma might be affected by passive smoking though. I say leave it as it is as regards pubs. They have smoking areas. If like me, you're a non-smoker, when you go outside, you do your best to stay clear of those smoking.

It's annoying if you're walking through town or queuing up somewhere and you get stuck right next to someone puffing away like a chimney. Similarly when I'm out for a run and there's someone walking along or stood at a bus stop puffing at a ciggie.

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 22:16
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Aye but when I'm stood at a bus stop having a quiet smoke, I don't particularly like some smelly, sweaty jockstrap running near me, panting his germs all over me and flinging sweat everywhere. Disgusting.[ref]

Jimmythemoonlight Posted on 25/05/2011 22:18
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"Similarly when I'm out for a run and there's someone walking along or stood at a bus stop puffing at a ciggie."


There are some right woofters on here.Get a grip.You will inhale more toxins from the cars that drive by than someone enjoying a ciggie at a bus stop.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 25/05/2011 22:18
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Another daft thing to say. I'm sure you'd be doing me more harm than I'd be doing you. Unless I run within a few inches of you, you're not going to notice any of that. Smoke can be inhaled from a good few feet away.

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 22:21
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Well if you're running you're not going to inhale much, but breathing in some smoke as you run past isn't actually going to harm you; I'd be more concerned about all the traffic fumes.

And it's not harm but having some sweaty stranger running past you is pretty minging.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 25/05/2011 22:22
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When I go for a run, I tend to do it on an evening when there's hardly any traffic about. People are in cars because they have to go somewhere. Smokers choose to poison themselves. Why should non-smokers be poisoned? I'd have thought that tobbacco smoke was more carcnogenic (sp) than whatever exhaust fumes are about when I am going out for a run on the roads. If I go for a run during the day, I tend to use a lot of the cycle routes in the green belt areas which are traffic free.

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 22:30
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People often don't HAVE to use their cars. There are greener options but people like to churn fumes out and pollute the air we breathe because it's convenient for them.

You're not going to be poisoned or knacker your health by running past a smoker, seriously now. Give your body some credit.

borobadge Posted on 25/05/2011 22:34
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ov course and cigarettes 10 for 10.


that'll give 'em real value in the clink.

modern day leppers, they should e given bells to ring.

icarus1965 Posted on 25/05/2011 22:38
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can i ask smokers

why do you smoke in none smoking areas, I don,t mean inside a pub or shop, but in bus shelters, train stations etc ? a no smoking sign is there to see...

does the smoke cloud the brain so you can,t read ?

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 22:43
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"Fecking smokers, I walked past one today and he practically poisoned me AND gave me a headache because of his stupid bell. XXXXXXers, the lot of them."

Icarus; I don't smoke at train stations personally, but ask yourself if you follow every single rule because a little sticker tells you to. Try it for a week as you go about your business and see how many you ignore, bet you'll find some.

icarus1965 Posted on 25/05/2011 22:46
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if people want to smoke do it well away from everyone else...and not puff it in your face

it plays hell with my asthma ...

Jimmythemoonlight Posted on 25/05/2011 22:47
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I dont drive so why should I have to inhale car fumes? Works both ways.These "clouds" of smoke that you non-smokers dont really exist.You are talking bollox.

And as for inhaling all these toxic" clouds" I bet you dont pass more than two.How many cars drive past you on these healthy runs? Hundreds?

Pauluka Posted on 25/05/2011 22:51
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Seriously, there are some right fooooking whinging tarts on this board

Fooooking dullards

Barnsy Posted on 25/05/2011 22:53
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Another grown up comment from Puka.

Pauluka Posted on 25/05/2011 22:54
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See above

phil_ostine Posted on 25/05/2011 22:58
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"I've got to admit from a selfish perspective I would love to be able to sit in a beer garden and not come home stinking of smoke and feeling like I've inhaled half a pack myself."

How much more do you want? Seriously. That is ridiculous. Look, we're not allowed to smoke inside pubs, we adhere to those rules for YOUR benefit. Now you're moaning us smoking outside in beer gardens.

What should we do? Not go out? Sit at home in an airtight room to smoke? Get a grip, you bloody idiot.

In the winter, you don't care that we smoke outside. Actually, scrap that winter bit - when it's cold. And it's cold for most of the f*cking year.

People like you really annoy me.

Pauluka Posted on 25/05/2011 23:01
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Spot on Phil[^]

bill_door Posted on 25/05/2011 23:02
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Mind how you go tomorrow lads, it's a dangerous world out there.[^]

phil_ostine Posted on 25/05/2011 23:08
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What happens if I'm at the pub and I want a cigarette? I can't smoke in the pub, I can't smoke outside (in theory). Do I have to get a taxi home every time I want a smoke?

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 25/05/2011 23:31
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No, just give up smoking. [;)]

And to Jimmythemoonlight, Bill door and others, even if I don't go for a run (and I tend to do it at times when there's not much traffic about or places where there isn't much traffic), are you suggesting that because of all the traffic in sub-urban Middlesbrough, that nobody should step out of their front door? One thing, I certainly don't go for a run at rush-hour time when fumes from traffic congestion are at their worst.

To the non-drivers, if public transport was a half-decent, people wouldn't need to use their cars. Most people would need two buses to go to Tesco or Morrisons.

Big_Ted_Church Posted on 25/05/2011 23:42
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What should we do? Not go out?

If you like, you stinky XXXXXX. Mind, I've met that many lasses who smoke with low self-esteem and an oral fixation, maybe there should be ghettos for the smelly likes of you and I could get fired in after hours.

Am basing this on thinking that zombies are an easy lay. You smelly, smelly, insecure pariahs.

Red_Matter Posted on 25/05/2011 23:58
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This calls for a shoot first and ask questions later policy. My Uncle died from emphysema from second-hand smoke. As they say, cheers.

flaps Posted on 26/05/2011 00:24
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" If someone has a nut allergy, they're not going to eat peanuts are they?"

I can think of dozens of ways of transmitting potentially deadly peanut fragments to a nut allergy sufferer without them choosing to eat them.

Is your selfish need to eat nuts more important than their health? I don't think so.

Safest way is to ban all nuts in public places.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 26/05/2011 00:29
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"Safest way is to ban all nuts in public places."

[:D]

Banned Posted on 26/05/2011 00:39
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Razmond 1524hrs 25th post
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it is still harming the environment and people around them. please dont be fooled that just because it is outside it is harming no one else
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Please don't get in your car today except for essential use, otherwise you will be harming the environment and the people around you

squarewheelbike Posted on 26/05/2011 00:42
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Quoting Bill Hicks! How long till he actually said anything?

Hmm, about 17 years since he died of cancer in his early 30's, and he's still dead!

Only_Me Posted on 26/05/2011 04:34
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The government can't afford to ban smoking, it brings in far too much revenue - approx 10 billion per year.
Without that revenue, the country would be even more in the mire than it already is. Don't forget, every penny of income tax goes wholly on paying the welfare bill, nothing else, so for those advocating a full ban, where do you suppose else that that 10 billion could be raised???

As far as this area goes, what on earth do you think you spent years and years breathing in from the likes of ICI and the other works?
As someone already said, we were nicknamed smoggies for a reason and yet funny isn't it, that all of that industrial waste isn't responsible for any chest disease? Personally, I think there's a rabbit off somewhere there, don't you?
After all, if the truth were told about that, successive governments wouldn't be able to get away with placing exhorbitant taxes on cigarettes.
Big businesses pay to keep government ministers in their pockets, there's plenty of evidence to show the same scam is being played over and over with regard to the global warming/climate change scams. Have you not noticed that some very rich men are getting richer by the day and it's always the little man that pays for it. It's just the same.

Then we have secondary smoking, there is no evidence to say that passive smoking has any real effect, non whatsoever. Again, all we have are people paid for by a government ever eager to get it's hands on peoples money saying that there is a link.
These are the same people that admitted that safe drinking limits ( units ) were just pulled out of thin air. No checking to see if they were right, or anything like that, the figures were just put straight into the public domain as if written in stone.
The only persons name to ever get dragged out was that of Roy Castle, who according to the anti-smoking brigade never touched a ciggie in his life but that is a very clear lie. He is clearly seen smoking in at least one film that he starred in. So there's another myth/bare faced lie debunked. Not only that but he also came from an area that is known for it's industry but yet again that is ignored in favour of blaming smoking. I find it very strange that none of the pollutants that we are breathing in every day and have done for decades, has absolutely no ill effect on anyone! Nope, that definitely can't be right.

Then having considered all that, think back to your childhoods and how many of you had open coal fires?
Now it has been proved? that working in coal mines has ill effects on the health of miners but many of us kept the damn stuff in our houses and not content with that, we would then go and set fire to it, despite all the poisonous gases that gives off. Yet someone smoking 10 fags a day gets the blame for the lot. I think it's very unfair.

By the way to those that are anti-smokers, how many of you give a thought to those that like me suffer very severe hay fever, before you go out and start cutting your lawns? Not many of you I bet. Walking past a smoker, or even being brave enough to stand next to one doesn't bother me, it doesn't irritate my chest or cause me any other distress but those of you that cut your lawns are a different matter!


So before you whine and whinge about smokers, have a think about how your own behavior has detrimental effects on other people. It is not the smokers that are selfish, it's those of you that seem to think that the world revolves around you. It doesn't! Get over it!

Oh yes and I hope that you all only buy products that have no ingredients obtained from palm olives grown on land that was previously rainforest!

offside-again Posted on 26/05/2011 04:46
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Smoke weed, smoke cigs, I like both f uck the sanctimonious pr icks. Nothing worse than non smokers thinking they are whiter than white.

Oh and smoking is not a 100% death sentence, I fancy my chances of living till i'm at least 65 so f uk off please. [?]

And while we're on the subject of smoking lets legalise weed and get an estimated 6 billion a year in the coffers. [^]

Smokers contribute a lot to the economy.

OPEO Posted on 26/05/2011 05:16
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Ever had to walk through a hospital entrance holding your breath past pregnant women and fellas in wheelchairs who have already lost a leg and are on the road to the grave but still suck the poisons in? Weird.

Billy-no-mates! Posted on 26/05/2011 06:32
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Yeah great idea to ban smoking in public places.

Our pubs are already closing down like never before, why do some people want even more pubs to shut down.

Smokers would just stay at home and then their non smoking friends would most likely join them.

Bye bye pubs!

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 26/05/2011 07:30
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pubs are closing down because smokers are not allowed in ffs that is a joke right??

I guess thats why all those shops are closing down too??

ffs

someone has suggested we stop all travel because that harms the environment, but clearly they see that compared to smoking is a non argument.

Jimmythemoonlight Posted on 26/05/2011 07:45
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"pubs are closing down because smokers are not allowed in ffs that is a joke right??"

Yes.Its a major contributing factor in the demise of the pub.I actually agree with ban and have no problem going outside.

Banning people from smoking in open spaces however is ludicrous[V]

Billy-no-mates! Posted on 26/05/2011 07:59
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Exactly Jimmy.

I am a smoker and agree with the indoor ban.

But all out ban is just plain stupid and would finish off a lot of pubs.

joseph99 Posted on 26/05/2011 08:00
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Non-smoker here and someone who doesn't want to live in a Nanny-State. I love the buzz of Amsterdam and the overwhelming feeling of liberalism in the air. Ironic that the lefties want to put shackles on human behaviour.

This non-smoking attitude can now be seen all round the world - even Thailand and Brazil have adopted this attitude.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 26/05/2011 08:07
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i thought the major factor was the recession and not only that put the cost the breweries are charging the pubs which is leaving the small pubs out of pocket and unmanageable. There was a documentary all about this on channel 4 a while back.

Are you dismissing these factors and in fact saying the real major factor is making smokers go and smoke in the beer garden?

Billy-no-mates! Posted on 26/05/2011 08:44
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Raz go back and read my post ffs.

There are plenty of factors causing pubs to struggle so are you saying throwing another one at them would help?

Think it through....

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 26/05/2011 08:47
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it wasnt really in response to you it was in response to whoever stated major factor to pubs closing was smoking ban.

i dont think banning smoking in all public places would mean pubs closing at all.

Pubs have had to move with the times and in fact i think pubs that have combined offering meals etc have moved on and gained for users than when they were just pubs for smokers.

Billy-no-mates! Posted on 26/05/2011 08:50
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They can't move with the times if people stay at home, which I believe a lot would.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 26/05/2011 08:54
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as i have stated when the smoking ban was brought in for inside pubs, the pubs moved with the times offering meals etc and that worked out fine.

As i stated earlier the major factor for pubs was cost, not the lack of smokers.

Billy-no-mates! Posted on 26/05/2011 09:10
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I've changed my mind then.

Banning smoking in all public places would not impact at all on pubs[:D]

squarewheelbike Posted on 26/05/2011 11:12
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I work for an independent London pub company. When the smoking ban came in, revenues went up! And are still going up!

borobadge Posted on 26/05/2011 19:14
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and bring back publicly owned trams to towns and city centres, away with private shareholders bus companys....

they serve themselves, not the public.

bill_door Posted on 26/05/2011 19:36
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Thought about this thread on the way home, when I was having a smoke at a bus stop.

I don't even get the bus home, I was just inspired to stop there for my cigarette before going on to the train station.[^]

BoroAl Posted on 26/05/2011 21:19
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I can't believe threads like this one.You rave on about rights this rights that,THEY SHOULD BE BANNED FROM EVERYWHERE,SHOULD'NT BE ALLOWED OUT,ETC.GROW UP FFS THEY HAVE RIGHTS AS WELL AND THEY ARE SLOWLY GETTING ERODED AWAY .IF YOU DONT LIKE IT,F UCKING STAY IN.

borofan30 Posted on 26/05/2011 21:28
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as a smoker i agree with banning smoking in public buildings pubs resteraunts etc but outside! yeah right! ban smoking completely then all the taxes that smokers pay on fags will have to be made up from somewhere else then none smokers will start moaning bout taxes going up theres no way the country could get by without the taxes paid on fags without taking it from somewhere else.. would that also mean banning smoking outside your own house or in your own garden!

ghostfox Posted on 26/05/2011 21:28
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is sitting outside in a beer garden with people who smoke more damaging to your health than walking down a high street with cars,vans and buses spewing ...
Carbon Monoxide
Nitrogen dioxide
Sulphur dioxide
Suspended particles
Benzene
Formaldehyde
Polycyclic hydrocarbons.

******* hate you non smoking preachers.
you say XXXXXXe before looking into the XXXXXXe your pretending to know about.


borobadge Posted on 26/05/2011 21:29
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id ban idiots off computer message boards as well...

and allow them to wear an asbestos suit that only they can have, if theyre really daft and let the world know repeatedly, they can have the matching waistcoat...

theyre sooooo speacial.

gravyboat Posted on 26/05/2011 21:33
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'People smoking outside is bad for the environment' [:D]

Raz, you are one special boy.

ghostfox Posted on 26/05/2011 21:34
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and banning smoking from train stations for **** sake !
as if a train station is polution free !

ron_manager Posted on 26/05/2011 21:53
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Well as some of you may know I have been packed smoking for nearly eight weeks now. It really is a disgusting habbit and I am very pleased to have stopped.

But would I want it banned in public space, no fecking way, there are far more damaging things we are doing to our health and the planet than cigarettes. the main one been cars. Cars and the need for petrol will lead to a great war one day, cigarettes on the other hand will not.

Senor_Chester Posted on 26/05/2011 21:55
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"It's annoying if you're walking through town or queuing up somewhere and you get stuck right next to someone puffing away like a chimney. Similarly when I'm out for a run and there's someone walking along or stood at a bus stop puffing at a ciggie."

You'd really struggle to find anything ever as pathetic as that on here. Out for a run ffs!

Gingerpig Posted on 26/05/2011 22:48
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Similarly when I'm out for a run and there's someone walking along or stood at a bus stop puffing at a ciggie."

Sounds to me like yer lungs are fcked without fags....I'd stop that running about, its clearly doing you no good [xx(]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 26/05/2011 22:55
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Yes, going out for a run is pathetic isn't it? Just happens to be the sport that I compete at. This lunchtime in town, it was fairly busy with a fair few people smoking and often, unless you totally change direction, it's difficult to avoid, but it's something I put up with. What is worse however, is when I walk out of Cleveland Centre and there's a handful of people just outside the automatic doors puffing away. You literally run a gauntlet of smoke.

Only_Me Posted on 27/05/2011 01:44
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Do you ever have or attend bbq's? If so, do you complain to the host about the smoke coming from the bbq?

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 27/05/2011 03:05
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PTCFT - I feel the same about cars whenever i'm near a road. As I don't use a car, or have any intention of doing so, I think we should ban them.

While we're at it, let's ban lorries, trains, aeroplanes, helicopters, chemical works, creosote, paint-stripper, gas fires, gas cookers, motorbikes, permanent markers, tractors, lighters, combined-harvesters, cows with dodgy bowels, fireworks, weed-killer, stock-car racing, agro-chemicals and fertilizers, any kind of chimney-based pursuit, plastics, jet-skis, aerosols, monster trucks, fire, telephone cables, ammonia, emulsion, volcanic eruptions, lead, Tippex, air-conditioning, plywood, air-fresheners, rubber, insecticides, glue, WD40, coal, hydrochloric acid, speedboats, sandstorms, herbicides, copper, varnish, shop-ability scooters, landfill, incense, and carpet.

It's only fair.

joshie Posted on 27/05/2011 06:09
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Those people who want to ban smoking in public places are of the same ilk as a traffic warden gleefully putting tickets on cars, planning managers refusing housing applications for little or no reason and all other jobsworths, sanctimonious tossers who look down on others whilst probably beating their wives behind closed doors on an evening.

Billy-no-mates! Posted on 27/05/2011 07:04
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My favourite fmttm line ever.

You literally run a gauntlet of smoke.

Beautiful

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 27/05/2011 07:23
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what is idiotic on here is the comparison with smoking and van and car driving.

one is recreational and one is essential for our industries.

such an argument shows you really havent a clue, and infact shows you havent a thought for non-smokers, if when asked to stop smoking your answers is 'well make all the cars and vans stop driving first' ... possible the worst counter argument ever on here.

Billy-no-mates! Posted on 27/05/2011 08:41
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This thread shows that smoking makes you rock hard[:(!]

Non smokers are wusses and don't look as cool as either[:D]

Capybara Posted on 27/05/2011 10:27
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'My favourite fmttm line ever.

You literally run a gauntlet of smoke.

Beautiful'

[:D]

Rayman Posted on 27/05/2011 10:35
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Alas! The majority of car driving isn't neccessary for industry and round here seems to consist of morbidly obese women, driving inappropriately large vehicles, to prevent their fat spoilt kids having to walk a few yards.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 27/05/2011 10:41
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Rayman thats not the best reason to ban all cars and van.

Transport is essential for our industry, smoking isnt, mind the taxes on smoking are they only reason it is still a legal commodity.

Rayman Posted on 27/05/2011 10:45
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I don't believe I mentioned banning cars and vans, although I feel a lot of it is unneccessary, and a waste of resources. Apart from the pollution, I assume that we import most of the cars and fuel, and I suspect that later on honest decent hard working families will be paying for medical treatment for the previously mentioned lazy saps.

Rayman Posted on 27/05/2011 10:48
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The point is.... They have banned smoking tabs, it's a done deal.
Now lets get after the motorists.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 27/05/2011 10:49
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why would you want to ban all motorists?

Rayman Posted on 27/05/2011 10:55
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[?]
I don't want to ban all motorists, but if we don't start regulating them, we are storing up a long term health issue. It will cost a fortune.
I'm really just comparing like for like with certain parts of Europe. A conurbation such as this should have an efficient integrated public transport system. Many places I go to in L'Europe have a low car ownership, great transport and cycleways.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 27/05/2011 11:01
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Rayman couldnt agree more with that [^]

Mogga_Return Posted on 27/05/2011 12:50
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Always Remember the pub was a mans place to relax enjoy a pint and a smoke with mates and general socialization. Here on for thought....... in a pub you can have 2 rooms a non smoking room and a smoking room as most people who smoke you would belive would sit in that room and the non smokers would sit in the other room. and i highly doubt most of your non smoking mates would winge at the fact of popping in that room with you while you have a fag you non smokers are such downers on society can we ban you of you anti smoking preaching boll0cks!

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 27/05/2011 12:55
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what happens when the public house has more non smokers than smokers in it, and one room is empty and the other is over flowing?

the majority would win and the smokers would be kicked back outside as the pub would lose trade - thats just another fact.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 27/05/2011 13:06
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'I work for an independent London pub company. When the smoking ban came in, revenues went up! And are still going up!'

'independent'

There lies the key to the future of British pub [^]


Mogga_Return Posted on 27/05/2011 13:10
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as i said while the smoker "pops in for fag as in the way it works outside most people pop out of a fag and come back in same system should of been introduced. you non smoking "The argumentative" ones are beginning to get really boring now.