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TeessideCleveland Posted on 10/05/2011 23:49
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Thanks Steve


Link: Read this in my Sunderland shirt

marsked_magician Posted on 11/05/2011 01:47
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Whereas your username is doing anything but reminding us its a small town in yorkshire. Obviously not that important to you

offside-again Posted on 11/05/2011 03:10
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Even though it isn't.

Bukowski Posted on 11/05/2011 04:22
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

When talking about Boro, Gibson only ever talks about the town. Never the surrounding area. He's always had a very parochial mentality.

EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 11/05/2011 06:29
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Yorkshire will NEVER, repeat NEVER accept Middlesbrough, never really has done, and never will.


coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 06:44
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I was born in Middlesbrough in the North Riding of Yorkshire [^]

Go On Stevie Lad!

RandyGrandad Posted on 11/05/2011 07:41
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Always makes me smile this debate.
Since when has Middlesbrough ever been in North Yorkshire? If you live in Middlesbrough; who is the authority responsible for taking your bins away and which Police force do you contact if you need them? There we go then......[^]

Endofdebatetastic [^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 07:56
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

why do you want to be part of yorkshire?

Middlesbrough and Stodckton have a more historical connection with newcastle, sunderland, and hartlepool, than any place in yorkshire.

To disown that North East connection to be North Yorkshire would be a real shame.

and the accents of people from Middlesbrough, Stockton, Billingham, Hartlepool, Sunderland, Newcastle are all different but also very similar, and nothing like a yorkshire accent.

HerwickBills Posted on 11/05/2011 08:02
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I was born in Middlesbrough and my birth certificate says Yorkshire on it.Why up to a few years ago did Yorkshire cricket club play at Acklam Park ? This debate goes on and on and on.I'm proud to come from Yorkshire.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 08:06
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

but you dont come from yorkshire to be fair.

I bet you sound more geordie than yorkshire, cause i know i do and i originate from stockton.

ray192 Posted on 11/05/2011 08:10
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

TC

Stop blubbering like a big girls blouse ffs [8)] you threw your dolls out of your pram last year over this or was it the year before !! [V].

UTB [^][ref]

raglasher Posted on 11/05/2011 08:14
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

My birth certificate says born in Middlesbrough
North Yorkshire, that makes me a Yorkshire man
OFFICALY.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 08:16
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

lol i'm sure if it said Holland too you'd claim to be dutch

ffs

The_same_as_before Posted on 11/05/2011 08:21
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Stockton Fc could be Manchester United for me, I would not watch them.

I am from Middlesbrough, not County Durham.

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 08:29
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"lol i'm sure if it said Holland too you'd claim to be dutch

ffs"

People born in Holland are Dutch.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 08:31
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

but people born in middlesbrough arent yorkshire or dutch ... bless you for joining in :o)

chesterdrawers Posted on 11/05/2011 08:40
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

fcuk all to do with yorkshire you lot [;)]

mot

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 08:42
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

When talking about Boro, Gibson only ever talks about the town. Never the surrounding area. He's always had a very parochial mentality.
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Can never understand why he does this - it's almost as if it's to cover up for poor attedances. At least Mogga has a Teesside perspective.

EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 11/05/2011 08:43
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

You are 100% correct randy grandad.

This debate descended into the predictable snob element decades ago. All the facist Yarmies want to be in Yorkshire but cannot get in LOL

I am proud to be from Cleveland.

The_same_as_before Posted on 11/05/2011 08:45
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

It's because he is from Park End, I am from Berwick Hills, we never had anything to do with Stockton. When we say 'here', we mean Middlesbrough.

Same way since we have joined the EEC, I don't see myself as European.

It is just a figure of speach, still for me Stockton is Durham and I would not watch stockton at football or Durham at Cricket.


speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 08:48
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

$hit kickers and dirty Leeds to the South, barbarians to the North, can't see why you would want to be from anywhere but T-T-Teesside.

Shame it only existed for six years but your can't have everything.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 08:48
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

isnt Durham, Durham?

Stockton has more connections with places like hartlepool and sunderland than it does with the city of durham. I guess with your real lack of knowledge of that area you would not know that.

wasnt Cleveland County Council based in stockton?

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 08:50
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Yes but Gibbo surely realises by now that it is not in the club's interests to potentially alienate a large section of his fanbase.

Of course if they just merged the three boroughs and called it Greater Middlesbrough or something it wouldn't matter.

The_same_as_before Posted on 11/05/2011 08:50
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Raz, that is very true. Why do I want/need to know the history of Hartlepool, Sunderland and Stockton?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 08:51
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Middlesbrough FC used to have great connections with via the Dickens sponsorship deal

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 08:53
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

fcuk all to do with yorkshire you lot
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Can never understand anyway why people would want to be associated with a backward region populated by tight-ar$ed misery guts with appalling accents.


Muttley Posted on 11/05/2011 08:54
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Wahey Trollfest!

[^][:D][^]

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 11/05/2011 08:56
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"I bet you sound more geordie than yorkshire, cause i know i do and i originate from stockton."

You sound more like a gormless moron to me Raymond.

Not sure accents are the be all and end all of where you were born [rle]

Nero Posted on 11/05/2011 08:57
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

It's already been mentioned, but Gibson only ever says "the town" when talking about Boro. It's like Ashley leaving out Gateshead when talking about Newcastle. That's what the rest of Teesside is to MFC. Kind of.

As for the Yorkshire bit. You older lads are welcome to claim to be from Yorkshire.

For my generation and the one below we're a million miles away from Yorkshire. Middlesbrough is Teesside and Teesside is North East.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 08:58
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

someone has an issue with people from stockton.

bless.

i am also not the biggest fan of the stockton accent but sorry arnie not a lot i can do about it.

The_same_as_before Posted on 11/05/2011 08:59
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Nero, that is as close to my opinion as I could get.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 09:01
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

aye me too... mind i dont class Stockon or Billingham as Durham... bless

Nero Posted on 11/05/2011 09:05
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

The_same_as_before - [^]

George1507 Posted on 11/05/2011 09:22
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Regardless of who collects the rates and empties the bins, Middlesbrough is in the ceremonial county of Yorkshire.

EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 11/05/2011 09:47
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Use to be George, people born in the 60s in Boro are classed as Yorkshire born.

Not now though, Middlesbrough is not even the capital of Cleveland either, Guisborough is.

Say after me you morthern morons

WE ARE FROM CLEVELAND

sasboro1 Posted on 11/05/2011 09:50
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

id say the accent has change over the last 2 generations. my dad and others of similar age sound more yorkshire but now the accent seems closer to people up in durham. my grandad sounder more yorkshire than 'teesside' as it is now

fatharrywhite Posted on 11/05/2011 09:51
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

i've got Yorkshire on my birth certificate and i was born in 73

Midosparmo Posted on 11/05/2011 09:52
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Guisborough is the old capital of the area of Yorkshire called Cleveland.

Therefore Cleveland and Yorkshire are both correct.

Teesside is a new name invented by bureaucrats and should be ignored [^]


Link: history

speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 09:55
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Who invented any name? You're just saying you prefer the efforts of bureaucrats of yesteryear. Try chanting Cl-Cl-Clevelanders and see how foolish you feel.

Midosparmo Posted on 11/05/2011 09:57
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Was not Bureaucrats of yesteryear that named the places, but conquerers [^]

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 09:59
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

EpiphanyProudfoot, Cleveland stopped being a county in 1996. Thesameasbefore, the EEC is now called the EU. It changed in 1993. I know these two facts can be difficult to get used to for a lot of people but that's the way it is.

Regarding the North East/Yorkshire debate the answer is the town of Middlesbrough is in both. It's also correct to say that Middlesbrough is in England, Great Britain, the British Isles, the United Kingdom, Europe and indeed the World. That's because these are all different things. The North East is a region. North Yorkshire is a county. Again, I realise this can be difficult to grasp.

speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 10:04
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Conquerors - the more successful ones - WERE bureaucrats.

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 11/05/2011 10:04
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I love it when people carry on arguing against incontrovertible evidence. In this case, birth certificates mean nothing apparently.

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 10:13
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Correct Diasboro_Dan. Birth certificates and ceremonial counties and Lord Lieutenants apparently mean nothing because Razmond thinks Stockton is more like Hartlepool than Durham. [|)]

speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 10:15
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

What if your birth certificate said 'Rutland'?

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 10:16
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Regardless of who collects the rates and empties the bins, Middlesbrough is in the ceremonial county of Yorkshire.
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The last point is meaningless. For most of us (urbanites) counties are an anachronism unless you follow county cricket.

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 10:18
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Well that would be where you were born. Similar to the earlier question about where would somebody have been born if their birth certificate said they were born in the Netherlands.

Capybara Posted on 11/05/2011 10:18
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

How can Middlesbrough be in the EU when it has a TS postcode?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 10:20
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

superstu have you been to stockton-on-tees and Durham?

what comparisons do you have from the two?

(Durham University maybe lol)


marsked_magician Posted on 11/05/2011 10:23
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Why anyone would want to argue their case that they live in the same county as places like Dewsbury and Halifax is beyond me

skiprat Posted on 11/05/2011 10:24
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

People from Stockton would be better off using their time trying to clean up the XXXXXXing dump rather than hanging off the back of everything Steve Gibson says.

speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 10:24
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

How can Middlesbrough be in the EU when it has a TS postcode?

Where've you been Grandad? Twinned with Oberhausen and Dunkirk nigh on fowerty year.

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 10:26
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I have been to both Raz. Amazingly though I'm able to comprehend that places don't have to be similar to be grouped together. London is different to Weston Super Mare. They're both still in England. Helsinki is different to Madrid. They're both still in Europe.

Midosparmo Posted on 11/05/2011 10:26
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Thanks to our brave lads (and no thanks to the French) we might have had a German postcode [xx(]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 10:30
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

superstu before i continue to point out the obvious are you refering to Durham or County Durham?


Bugler Posted on 11/05/2011 10:31
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

The club as far as me (and the rest of us lifelong fans from north of the river) is a teesside club. I feel no allegiance to Durham. Apart from cricket reasons!

Boro have ties with Stockton, like it or not. For some reason its ok to play reserve games at Synners, players always stayed at Norton Hall.

If someone from Stockton was to step in with wads of cash when Gibbo calls it a day would the boro lads be annoyed?

Oh and despite Gibbo constantly saying Mogga is from the town, he isn't.

DowningAlbion Posted on 11/05/2011 10:36
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Middlesbrough is in NORTH Yorkshire. It was for ages, then it wasn't (briefly), now it is again.

North Yorkshire is the biggest county in England, even before you add it back in to East, West & South Yorkshire. It's also the best [^]

Those of us from south of the Tees who grew up around the Eston & Cleveland Hills and the North York Moors have no problem with this fact.

The Middlesbrough accent is similar to the North Yorkshire accent. It is not in the same county as Halifax or Dewsbury [rle]

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 10:37
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Don't think I'll tell you if it'll keep you from continuing tbh Raz. [8D][^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 10:42
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

'because Razmond thinks Stockton is more like Hartlepool than Durham'

sounded like you were comparing places, as comparing stockton with county council would not make sense.

you must talk sense on other threads.

re Middlesbrough, Holland on a birth certificate. I was suggesting that a birth certificate could of course include an error on it, but you are right the dutch to live in Holland, bless.

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 10:48
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Middlesbrough has never actually been in North Yorkshire, but parts of its hinterland including Stokesley, Great Ayton and Hutton Rudby are. They should extend the town boundary to take in these affluent places and broaden the tax base [^].

attonBORO Posted on 11/05/2011 10:53
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Bryan - yr totally wrong! My mother's birth certificate says "Middlesbrough, North Riding of Yorkshire" i have it in front of me...

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 10:53
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

So let me get this right. You're suggesting that all the people on this thread who have mentioned that their birth certificates say North Yorkshire are either mistaken or their birth certificates feature a mistake? Similar to if their birth certificate mistakingly said they were born in the Netherlands?

DowningAlbion Posted on 11/05/2011 10:55
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

'Middlesbrough has never actually been in North Yorkshire' [rle]

It was in the North Riding Of Yorkshire from its beginning until 1968, then it was Teesside, then Cleveland, and now it is back in North Yorkshire (for ceremonial purposes).

"In 1996 Cleveland was abolished, and Middlesbrough became a unitary authority, within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire"

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 10:55
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

no i was highlighting the fact that a birth certificate could contain an error as simple as that.

I was also highlighting the fact that Stockton-on-Tees had more cultural and social connections with Harlepool than it does with Durham.

RenzoRosso Posted on 11/05/2011 10:56
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

hahahahahahaahhahahahahahaha
ha

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 10:59
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

So you agree that your point about the Netherlands had utterly no consequence or purpose in this discussion? Thanks.

attonBORO Posted on 11/05/2011 10:59
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Bryan?????

Raymond - WRONG!! Stockton has obvious stronger connections with Middlesbrough! Where do you live - Pluto?

marsked_magician Posted on 11/05/2011 11:00
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

this Razmond fella talks some "reet" guff

George1507 Posted on 11/05/2011 11:02
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Stop arguing. This is the first line of Middlesbrough's entry on Wikipedia, and it says everything you need to know.

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Middlesbrough (pronounced /ˈmɪdəlzbrə/ ( listen) MID-əlz-brə) is a large town situated on the south bank of the River Tees in North East England, that sits within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire.

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Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 11:04
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

superstu no i was highlighting that what is put on a birth certificate may in fact be incorrect or outdated... something you are finding hard to grasp.

what comparisons have you made with Stockton and Durham?

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 11:04
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

'that sits within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire.'

Meaningless.


bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 11:06
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Bryan - yr totally wrong! My mother's birth certificate says "Middlesbrough, North Riding of Yorkshire" i have it in front of me...
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Mine does too. But North Riding of Yorkshire and North Yorkshire are not the same thing. The clue is in the words.

speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 11:10
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I wonder if they have this much fun on the Stoke board arguing the toss between Hanley, Burslem, etc.

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 11:14
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"what comparisons have you made with Stockton and Durham?"

I haven't. You have. And apparently you've used that to decipher where you think county boundaries should be/are drawn.

George1507 Posted on 11/05/2011 11:14
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

It's not meaningless. Ceremonial county, or geographical county if you prefer is a term enacted in the Lieutenancies Act 1997. Ceremonial counties have full legal status, and especially define where people are from.

The ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, includes York, Middlesbrough, Redcar and Cleveland, and Stockton-on-Tees south of the River Tees.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 11:22
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superstu i have never spoken about stockton as a brough council or durham as a county council but as places, when i talk about York i dont mean York county council i mean the city of york, you must be one of few who get confused on such matters.

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 11:23
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

You keep telling yourself that Raz. [8)]

mar10 Posted on 11/05/2011 11:42
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I'd rather be from Durham than North Yorkshire.....

But I am from neither.

I am from Teesside[^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 11:44
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

no superstu it seems to be you and only you i need to keep telling. bless

Jase_rw Posted on 11/05/2011 11:44
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Do the proud Yorkshiremen (and women) join in with the T-T-Teesside chants at the match?

There's quite a few refering to Teesside I can think of.

George1507 Posted on 11/05/2011 11:49
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

It's not what you want to be, it's what you are.

If you live in Middlesbrough, then geographically you live in North Yorkshire.

It's not a matter of opinion or inclination, it's a fact.


superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 11:56
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Raz. You've talked rubbish all morning.

Firstly you tried to base county boundaries on which TOWNS and ACCENTS you thought most similar. (I never accused you of passing any comment about the similarities between Durham and Yorks county councils. Don't know where you plucked that little gem from and then had the cheeky to accuse me of being confused! You little terror!)

Then when other posters pointed out that rather than relying on their opinions on whether Middlesbrough seems like it's in North Yorkshire, they were able to call on actual pieces of evidence - their birth certificates, you started prattering on that their birth certificates, whilst not in this case being mistaken, would be mistaken if they said "born in Holland" and on that basis shouldn't be relied on.

You're a crank, you've been talking nonsense, and you've been caught out. Give up and move on to your next thread.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 12:02
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

'I never accused you of passing any comment about the similarities between Durham and Yorks county councils. Don't know where you plucked that little gem from and then had the cheeky to accuse me of being confused! You little terror!'

you are again being confused. I pointed out that i was not talking about counties something i pointed out several times, gave the example if i say 'York' i do not mean York as in the county in the same way when i say Durham i do not mean durham as in County Durham, something you have struggled with all morning.

no i pointed out that birth certificates can be out of date regarding regions on them or can have a simply clerical error on them something you struggle to agree with could happen

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 12:06
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Are you actually joking with that last post? Did you even read the part you quoted? I don't think I'm going to reply to this again. It's gotten to a point now where it feel like I'm bullying you.

...Because you're so unbelievably stupid.

Atticus Posted on 11/05/2011 12:08
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Raz, you are not making any sense.

Instead of telling us what you don't mean, why not try telling us what it actually is you're trying to say?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 12:12
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

no i am not joking and to be honest you are the one that has to resort to name calling rather than explaining yourself which shows a clear lack in intelligence.

i agree with you on one think, dont reply again.

Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 11/05/2011 12:25
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

When we replace road signs from now on we've been told to delete all references to Teesside as it does not exist.

END OF

Middlesbrough was always and always will be in the County of Yorkshire. Other names may come and go for administrative purposes but Yorkshire will always remain.

Maybe we should for independence.

attonBORO Posted on 11/05/2011 12:37
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

superstu is right Raz - give up...so there were typographical errors with every birth cert in middlesbrough ffs...

Middlesbrough FC is Teesside's club, whether Steve Gibson likes it or not and without the non-Boro-born fans there would be no MFC!!

speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 12:37
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Teesside hasn't existed since 1974.

Seems alive and well though.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 12:40
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

i dont know, but i live in East Riding not East Yorkshire, thats across the humber.

Does that mean that the ones that say Middlesbrough, North Riding are wrong? as they are not North Yorkshire

attonBORO Posted on 11/05/2011 12:45
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

North Riding of Yorkshire IS North Yorkshire!! OMGGMS

Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 11/05/2011 12:48
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

The boundary of North Yorkshire is not the same as the boundary of the North Riding of Yorkshire.

WANNAS Posted on 11/05/2011 12:48
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Conversely, I am from County Durham, not Middlesbrough.

But I am proud to support the Boro and no-one will ever change that - and to be fair it was Norton / Stockton lads that got me going to Ayresome in the first place.

My lads were born in London and Sunderland respectively - but they both support the Boro too.

Don't know where I'm rambling on this, but I suppose its to prove geographical boundaries are irrelevant and temporary, whilst the Boro are (hopefully) permanent.

UTB[^]

gravyboat Posted on 11/05/2011 12:49
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Only Raz could turn a thread we've had a thousand times before into a ton.

mikeyyyy Posted on 11/05/2011 12:50
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

such a non argument
[:D]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 12:53
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Bobby_Braithwaite is totally correct after a small google, north riding included such areas as stockton and even leyburn and bedale. It is not the same as North Yorkshire.

Hurworth Posted on 11/05/2011 12:56
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Being termed a Yorkshireman obviously means much, to some.

Never understood the love affair that some Boro boys have with Yorkshire myself, but it wouldn't do for us all to be the same would it?

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 11/05/2011 12:59
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Where is your carer Raymond?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 11/05/2011 13:03
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

it would also seem the original thread title is wrong... someone else who doesnt know where places are...

'Mackem is a term that refers to the accent, dialect and people of the Wearside
area, or more specifically Sunderland, a city in North East England'

boro74 Posted on 11/05/2011 15:55
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Gibbo uses the phrase "small town in Yorkshire" to emphasise the magnitude of our success.

"Small town in Cleveland" or "small town on Teesside" doesn't sound as good. Especially as we are a big town in those areas.

chesterdrawers Posted on 11/05/2011 16:04
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

and for the last time .
you lot are fcuk all to do with yorkshire [:(]

Muttley Posted on 11/05/2011 16:09
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Aside from Raz being entirely impossible to argue with as he's a complete idiot the thing that struck me was his assertion that "I live in East Riding not East Yorkshire, thats across the humber."

Could someone with a greater grasp of geography than mine correct me, is not the other side of The Humber, Lincolnshire? How then does Raz cross from The East Riding into East Yorkshire "across the Humber"? There may be time travel involved perhaps?

Good this innit?[:D]

Dibzzz Posted on 11/05/2011 16:12
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I'd love to see Gibsons reaction if all those re-newing from outside the Town didn't bother.

parmoboro Posted on 11/05/2011 16:14
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"I'd love to see Gibsons reaction if all those re-newing from outside the Town didn't bother."

Spot on [^]

DowningAlbion Posted on 11/05/2011 16:21
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'it would also seem the original thread title is wrong... someone else who doesnt know where places are...'

Raz, are you pretending to be thick or is it genuine?

'Stockton Mackems' referes to Gibsons famous Radio interview where he made the off-hand comment that 'everyone in Stockton supports Sunderland anyway'.

Also, do you not understand that the county of North Yorkshire replaces the North Riding?

So currently, Middlesbrough is in North Yorkshire (ceremonially) and there is no North Riding anymore [rle]

paulmboro Posted on 11/05/2011 16:24
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gibson is a Middlesbrough man, not a Teesside man and like most Middlesbrough men - he's insular and cares only about the town.

Can't believe the disdain he has for people who follow Boro outside of Middlesbrough.


Chris_From_Pitchside Posted on 11/05/2011 16:25
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If Teesside doesn't exist why does Teesside have a TS post-code?

I'm from Thornaby-on-Tees, Teesside.

None of this Yorkshire / Durham XXXXXXe with me.

boro74 Posted on 11/05/2011 16:32
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"'Stockton Mackems' referes to Gibsons famous Radio interview where he made the off-hand comment that 'everyone in Stockton supports Sunderland anyway'."

What he actually said was that most people in Stockton support Sunderland. There is a difference. If you are from Stockton and support Boro then he wasn't talking about you.


Dibzzz Posted on 11/05/2011 16:40
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

But most people from Stockton support Boro.

DowningAlbion Posted on 11/05/2011 16:52
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Anyway, we sang we're a "small town in Europe" because the Geordies sang you're a "small town in Yorkshire" to imply they do not consider us part of the North East and it isn't a Derby etc.
SG could be referring back to that i.e. where we got to was pretty good for 'a small town in Yorkshire'

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 11/05/2011 17:10
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Raymond fux off after being pwnd by muttley and co.

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 17:13
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Chris_From_Pitchside

Thornaby is also part of YORKSHIRE, it's south of the river.

Post codes have nothing to do with where you live in relation to counties.

County town of both North Yorkshire and the North Riding of Yorkshire (Northallerton) has a DL post code Darlington which is in County Durham.

Bedford the administrative County town of Bedfordshire has a MK (Milton Keynes) Post code which in Buckinghamshire. The MK post code also covers part of Northamptonshire.

Aylesbury the adminstrative County town of Buckinghamshire has HP post code (Hemel Hempstead) which is in Hertfordshire.

boro74 Posted on 11/05/2011 17:22
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Actually, most people from Stockton don't support any football team. The same can be said about Middlesbrough or any other town for that matter.

Although, I think it's fair to say that the percentage of the population that support Sunderland is higher in Stockton than it is in Middlesbrough.

Chris_From_Pitchside Posted on 11/05/2011 17:40
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I don't think anyone my age who I went to school with considers themselves a Yorkshireman.

I know my Dad still thinks he's from Yorkshire but no-one really thinks Middlesbrough is in Yorkshire do they?

Sheffield, Leeds, York, Doncaster, Barnsley. That's proper Yorkshire.

Middlesbrough is in Teesside for me.

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 17:41
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Leyburn has a Darlington postcode are people seriously suggesting Leyburn is not in North Yorkshire [B)]

Bandy Posted on 11/05/2011 17:41
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spot on chris!

Yorkshire blokes are grumpy old XXXXXXers who drink bitter

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 17:43
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Err, try reading above.

Yes people do believe Middlesbrough is in Yorkshire because it is.

Teesside does not exist except in some peoples minds. It was an administrative area for 6 years. That tells you how bad it was.

sasboro1 Posted on 11/05/2011 17:45
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what does teesside cover? is it darlo or hartlepool. do they feel part of teesside or is it exclusive to boro,stockton and redcar. what about stokesly..etc

Chris_From_Pitchside Posted on 11/05/2011 17:46
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

And my Postcode point wasn't really to do with the Yorkshire argument. More that even if technically Teesside only existed for 6 years people around the country (Royal Mail letter sorters in particular) still recognise it as an area.

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 17:56
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Teesside does not exist except in some peoples minds. It was an administrative area for 6 years. That tells you how bad it was.
_________
No it doesn't. It tells you that the Tory Gov't abolished it in 1974. It still exists as a socio-economic area through its own economy, accent, culture, football team, university etc...and in the media.

TeessideCleveland Posted on 11/05/2011 18:03
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marsked_magician think you misunderstood the sarcasm in my comment mate

ray192 - keep up the abuse - it speaks so well of you [rle]

Speckget's opinions sseem to reflect mine on this

Tom_Fun Posted on 11/05/2011 18:06
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My birth certificate says Middlesbrough, North Yorkshire too but I have chosen to reject any notion that I am a Yorkshireman.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 18:11
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I`m from the North Riding of Yorkshire and I dont accept North Yorkshire at all,its another made up land like Cleveland.

Born in The North Riding[^][^][^][^][^]

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 18:42
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Yours will say Middlesbrough Cleveland Tom.

bill_door Posted on 11/05/2011 19:16
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

My birth certificate doesn't say Yorkshire on it.

Mind, I was born in London.

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 19:16
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"It tells you that the Tory Gov't abolished it in 1974."

The decision was taken 2 - 3 years earlier by following a process that had started years before.

Tell us one good thing that Teesside CBC did for the economin growth of it's area.

Old_Gregg Posted on 11/05/2011 19:20
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Not this old debate again [rle]

For the millionth time - Middlesbrough is in North Yorkshire, that is an indisputable fact. If you live in Middlesbrough, you live in North Yorkshire. Does that mean anything? Of course not, but if you live in Middlesbrough and it bothers you that much that you live in Yorkshire, move to Stockton (which is in County Durham by the way [;)])

I can't understand why people are bringing places like Dewsbury, Leeds etc... into the discussion - none of these are in North Yorkshire anyway.

North Yorkshire as a county contains Thirsk, York, Whitby and Saltburn as well as Middlesbrough and Redcar, so in my humble opinion, it's not a bad place to live at all.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 19:28
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It recognised that Stockton, Middlesbrough, Redcar,are joined together at the time before the Tories dismantled the heavy industries that made this area famous.Its accent is unmistakeable, its a Teesside accent not a Cleveland, Yorkshire or Durham one.
I share nothing in common with Woollybacks of the New North Yorkshire or Pit yakers of South Durham.

Guisborough, Whitby, Stokesley, arent Thats Cleveland.

CuddyWifter Posted on 11/05/2011 19:32
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bedouin syndrome being shown here by Gibson ? Course he can afford to live in North Yorks, hasn't lived in Boro for years.
There's loyalty (awaits backlash)[;)]

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 19:34
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"I share nothing in common with Woollybacks of the New North Yorkshire or Pit yakers of South Durham."

You don't go to Boro games or support Boro then if you have nothing in common do you red_shamrock[?] Who do you support [8)]

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 19:39
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red_shamrock

Are you basing this on accents?

If so do those in Stockton not have a different accent to those in Middlesbrough?

Either way you can't get away from the fact that Middlesbrough is in Yorkshire, Stockton is in County Durham.


red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 19:41
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A lot of Northerners gone South who have a Yorkshire moors fancyfull idea of Middlesbrough..which it is far from that.
As much as Stockton is to the quaint old Durham and its Cathedral.I think moving away and living with the Southerners they feel embarassed to admit they live in a former Steel and shipbuilding town ,and prefer to say they live in Emmerdale..the silly cnuts.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 19:43
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MK while I like you mate I was born in Middlesbrough and have Family from Middlesbrough and Stockton, Billingham Redcar ..there is no difference..ok Maybe the ninety mile an hour Brambles farm twang.

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 19:44
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

WTF has that got to do with it?

Sheffield was built on steel

Old_Gregg Posted on 11/05/2011 19:44
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"I share nothing in common with Woollybacks of the New North Yorkshire or Pit yakers of South Durham."

Makes no sense.

I don't have a great deal in common with the good people of Bristol or Coventry, however that doesn't mean I'm not English.

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 11/05/2011 19:44
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Some people need to get over themselves.

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 19:47
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r_s

You really should take your medication regularly you know [;)]

bill_door Posted on 11/05/2011 19:47
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Aye, just relax and forget about it all, with a nice pint of Black Sheep.[^]

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 19:48
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Old Peculier would be better for some [;)]

CuddyWifter Posted on 11/05/2011 19:51
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Try looking at this from the preception of others. Almost all from other parts of the country see Middlesbrough as part of the North East.

From my experience of working in Yorkshire, people there obviously don't see Middlesbrough as part of Yorkshire.
I'd also suggest that Boro's derbies are against North East sides, not Yorkshire ones.

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 19:52
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I used to like a nice pint of Yorkshire Bitter when I lived down sarf.

Can you or could you buy a pint of Teesside Bitter?

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 19:53
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Aye[:D]

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 19:55
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Where and what is it?

dodger Posted on 11/05/2011 19:59
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I would not think many young people from Boro regard themselves as being from Yorkshire , likewise Stockton / Durham.

Seems to be an old blokes argument this.

Arl Sithe , marra.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 19:59
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Camerons[^]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 11/05/2011 20:01
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Coluka - as a resident of Scarborough , Yorkshire I know you want to believe you live in the same county as Middlesbrough

Those of us living inside the Redcar Stockton and Middlesbrough council areas which make up Teesside are still happy to have you as a Boro fan

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 20:02
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Naw Dodger its just you get some silly sink estate buggers who made it to Acklam and think they live on the moors..move to Eston ffs[:D]

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 20:02
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You try telling any monkey hanger they're from Teesside and they'll be hanging you.

Nice pint I'll give you that.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 20:03
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Scarborough[:D] went there for me Honeymoon... kin Miles away.

dodger Posted on 11/05/2011 20:06
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When did Boro get lobbed out of Yorkshire?

Are they still barred out?

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 20:09
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1967 I think,cue Emmerdale music..its where they found Terry Waites bike I think.

dodger Posted on 11/05/2011 20:12
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[:D] Was it like one of those pub watch things ? But they got barred out of a full county.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 20:15
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[:D] Something had to go,I think the Woollybacks got sick of the sheep jokes and voted them out.

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 20:39
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TC

Thats awfully kind of you but as I am from Middlesbrough (North Riding of Yorkshire) I am a life member of the town so your kind and thoughtful view whilst appreciated, is not necessary [;)] Which county does it say on your birth certificate by the way TC [?]

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 20:41
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I dont believe you support us..do you go[;)]

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 20:48
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r_s

[:D]

I am an ST holder and have been through thin and even thinner [^] and always will be

We should all band together and put our differences behind us, afterall, we're just a small town in YORKSHIRE [:D]

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 20:50
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You cant kid a kidda[:D]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 11/05/2011 20:56
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'I am a season ticket holder'

For Boro or a Yorkshire team ?



In answer to your question 'Teesside'

Old_Gregg Posted on 11/05/2011 21:02
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"In answer to your question 'Teesside'"

No such place I'm afraid.

_hachinger_jungs Posted on 11/05/2011 21:28
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

So its official then, Yorkshire doesn't want us, neither does Durham/North-East.
What a shame to spend the last half hour reading posts from Teesside people squabbling amongst themselves all because of the arrogant, incorrect and insular comments of Steve Gibson.

Incidently, I have a West Riding of Yorkshire birth certificate but but have lived most of my life in the Stockton area and am proud of both.

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 21:34
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No such place I'm afraid.
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You'd better tell the Department for Transport then.


Muttley Posted on 11/05/2011 21:43
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I can't see why Old Gregg and others keep insisting there is no such place as "Teesside"? It's quite a simple concept, you take the name of the river adjacent to which the towns stand and add the appellation -side.

Wearside, Tyneside, Deeside, Humberside are other examples off the top of my head.

Similarly the "Tees Valley" name applied to places within the valley of the river Tees.

Or do you struggle with the existence of the river Tees?

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 21:45
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Old Gregg must be a woollyback.

MKredleaderOne Posted on 11/05/2011 21:50
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

You've just argued against yourself there.

By adding side to the name of a river does not create a place or a county.

HolgateCorner Posted on 11/05/2011 21:53
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I thought the main evidence that you were a Yorkshire man used to be that you could play cricket for Yorkshire.

People around the M62 corridor never complained about the lack of Yorkshire credentials of cricketers from Middlesbrough, if they could bat and bowl they were in the team.

You have to remember that Leeds and area is the west riding and Hull and area the East riding. Middlesbrough has always been separitist in the North Riding.

As a Boro Lad, a Yorkshireman and a proud Teessider I regard Middlesbrough, Stockton, Yarm, Thornaby, billingham and Redcar as one entity.

However I think I have more in common with London cockneys than our deluded geordie and mackem near neighbours. They are nothing like us and we are nothing like them.

Muttley Posted on 11/05/2011 21:55
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A name describes a place it cannot "create" one, can it?

Tyneside for example has never been a county (I think I'm right in saying) but it describes the collection of towns along the banks of the river tyne does it not?

Mr_HOlgates_Son Posted on 11/05/2011 22:01
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I was born in Middlesbrough Cleveland, I feel absolutely no connection with Yorkshire. Never have and never will. It is a generation thing and the connection to Yorkshire will eventually be nothing as people die. XXXXXX yorkshire and XXXXXX everywhere else...T T T Teessider

Old_Gregg Posted on 11/05/2011 22:03
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bryan_munich - maybe you should read the whole thread before replying?

I'll help you out:

"When we replace road signs from now on we've been told to delete all references to Teesside as it does not exist."

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 22:05
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I agree that Guisboro,Stokesley,Loftus,and all the Woollyback dominions are not Teesside.
And should be classed as the Farming Cleveland people of Dorkshire[^]
They are good with cows, sheep, berries etc and we arent.

Old_Gregg Posted on 11/05/2011 22:08
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"I can't see why Old Gregg and others keep insisting there is no such place as "Teesside"? It's quite a simple concept, you take the name of the river adjacent to which the towns stand and add the appellation -side.

Wearside, Tyneside, Deeside, Humberside are other examples off the top of my head.

Similarly the "Tees Valley" name applied to places within the valley of the river Tees.

Or do you struggle with the existence of the river Tees?"

As York is also in North Yorkshire, and by a river, I wonder if its residents consider themselves to live in Yorkshire or Ouseside?

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 22:10
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Because nothing happens on the Ouse,the place is a floodplain.
We have nothing to do with York..miles away

Old_Gregg Posted on 11/05/2011 22:27
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"Because nothing happens on the Ouse,the place is a floodplain."

Jesus wept, just admit you're wrong man [:D]

That reply is so ridiculous it actually made me chuckle. So if the Tees flooded next week you would no longer consider Teesside a valid name for this area?

[:D]

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 22:31
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[:D] No you obviously dont live in either Stockton Middlesbrough or Redcar and keep banging on that Middlesbrough is in Yorkshire.
It was once it isn't now.

I was born in the Middlesbrough North Riding of Yorkshire, it has never been in North Yorkshire ...ever

Middlesbrough Thrived because of the Tees and still does.

superstu Posted on 11/05/2011 22:35
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Place =/= County.

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 22:37
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Middlesbrough is thriving [?][?][:O]

If only it was [|)]

dodger Posted on 11/05/2011 22:44
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Mr Holgates son [^]

As the lad said , a generation thing , it will die. I just asked my youngest son (16) where he considered he was from.

He said " Stockton , Teesside"

I was born in Boro , North Riding but have never considered myself a Yorkie , I'm down with the kids [:D]

Barnsy Posted on 11/05/2011 22:48
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Middlesbrough is a true Yorkshire town.

Sheffield/Leeds, although classed as being in Yorkshire, are, as you know, just Lancahire overspill.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 22:50
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[:D]

bryan_munich Posted on 11/05/2011 23:01
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As York is also in North Yorkshire, and by a river, I wonder if its residents consider themselves to live in Yorkshire or Ouseside?
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Why would they? Teesside, Merseyside etc refers to the area around an estuary (thereby giving rise to large scale port/industrial activity) whereas York and its river are nowhere near the fkin sea.

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 11/05/2011 23:07
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Note also when refering to Cleveland, the real Cleveland does not map to the ephemeral 'Cleveland County' boundaries by some way. None of the former is north of the Tees, and the village of Carlton-in-Cleveland wasn't in the latter.

red_shamrock Posted on 11/05/2011 23:09
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Bad Cleveland to much stigma.

spirit_of_86 Posted on 11/05/2011 23:09
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I was wondering why do we distance ourselves from Geordies then i witnessed this!


Link: Get your sky+ out ladies and gents!

DowningAlbion Posted on 11/05/2011 23:12
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I read all the new posts and lost the will to stay awake

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 11/05/2011 23:17
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Haven't we done this one before?

BoroPhil Posted on 11/05/2011 23:20
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"Gibbo uses the phrase "small town in Yorkshire" to emphasise the magnitude of our success.

"Small town in Cleveland" or "small town on Teesside" doesn't sound as good. Especially as we are a big town in those areas."

FFS, this is the only sensible post in this thread. He's just using a recognisable phrase (we sang it?) to emphasise our success. So many morons in here, astonished if this actually upsets you.

coluka Posted on 11/05/2011 23:22
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Prepare to be astonished [|)]

Old_Gregg Posted on 11/05/2011 23:33
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"Haven't we done this one before?"

Many, many times [rle]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 00:01
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

He's just using a recognisable phrase (we sang it?)

No we didn't

Dibzzz Posted on 12/05/2011 00:08
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boro74

There's no doubt that there's less Mackem fans in the Boro than Stockton.

But of all the football fans in Stockton, the vast majority support Boro.

It's a stones throw away and the nearest leauge club.

End of.

billywoofslovechild Posted on 12/05/2011 00:41
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My Birth certificate states Stockton-on-tees County Durham.

Without the lads from over the water Boro would be a small sunday league team.

Am i proud to be from Stockton, bloody right i am

Am i Proud to be a Boro Supporter, Bloody right i am

UP THE BORO.

Dibzzz Posted on 12/05/2011 00:43
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[^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 12/05/2011 07:46
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'Could someone with a greater grasp of geography than mine correct me, is not the other side of The Humber, Lincolnshire? '

Muttley you wanted someone to put you right, infact directly across the humber is still east yorkshire, east yorkshire buses venture that far i.e. barton upon humber, but your are right the area i was talking or referring to is more around that area i.e. barton and hessle those places, which are placed on either side of the humber.

Lincolnshire follows on after the humber area.

I hope that helps you.

George1507 Posted on 12/05/2011 08:22
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Barton upon Humber is in the ceremonial county of Lincolnshire, and for administrative purposes is in Yorkshire and Humber.

Lots of people on here don't seem able to grasp the difference between ceremonial (ie geographic) counties, and administrative (ie where you pay your council tax) areas.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 12/05/2011 08:27
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true i dont grasp that, as barton and that area has always been known as East Yorkshire and Humberside.

bill_door Posted on 12/05/2011 08:31
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Christ, Raz is back.

Have a good day folks.[:D][^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 12/05/2011 08:35
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tis thurdsday afterall [^]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 08:38
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I can't ever remember Gibson mentioning Yorkshire much until the 20008 summer season ticket renewal dvd when he kept calling Boro a team from Yorkshire - Brownlee mentioned Teesside but Gibson again mentioned Yorkshire a few times - enough times to be doing it to make a point
Then in 2009 when he was saying how Boro did so well to get the attendances they did with a town the population of Middlesbrough the caller said Boro's catchment area was all of Teesside to which Gibson said that mast people in Stockton support Sunderland - 'everybody knows that'
There was a bit of a debate about this over the following days and then Lamb and Allan apologised saying Gibson was not right about Stockton people mostly supporting Sunderland - nothing from Gibson
Now the 'Yorkshire club' is back again - it seems to be a regular end of the season thing now

ray192 Posted on 12/05/2011 08:42
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[cr]

And no mention of Derbyshire [sad] now wheres my season card i want to rip the foooking thing up [:(!].

UTB [^][ref]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 12/05/2011 08:42
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

maybe he is trying to disown the fans from Stockton, Billingham, Thornaby, Yarm etc.

I wouldnt be surprised

DowningAlbion Posted on 12/05/2011 08:44
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

we sang we're a "small town in Europe" because the Geordies sang you're a "small town in Yorkshire" to imply they do not consider us part of the North East and it isn't a Derby etc.
SG is referring back to that i.e. where we got to was pretty good for 'a small town in Yorkshire'

residentofnorthleeds Posted on 12/05/2011 10:08
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

If Boro cant decide where we belong its no wonder any one from outside the area cant.

For me Boro is not a Yorkshire club beause I didnt grow up in Yorkshire. Older supporters might disagree.

As for other posters saying we have more in common with Leeds and Sheff U Thats only because we were in the same division last season. The more observant might notice Sheff U will not be in the Championship next season

superstu Posted on 12/05/2011 10:12
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Where's this "more in common" argument coming from? In what was does Boro have anything in common with Newcastle/Sunderland/Leeds/Sheffield?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 12/05/2011 10:16
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

i agree i think we have more association with clubs and areas not associated with yorkshire, the area is more like sunderland, harlepool, darlo and newcastle than it is with leeds, york, barnsley, sheffield etc.

whether we lie on the border of north yorkshire or not should not be the issue we associate with the northern teams more because our area is a more northern area and nothing like any area within the yorkshire heart lands.

The_same_as_before Posted on 12/05/2011 10:18
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

An easy question for lads from Middlesbrough, Loftus and other North Yorkshire backwaters;

Would you go and watch Stockton FC in the premiership. Me the answer is no.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 12/05/2011 10:26
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

where do Stockton FC play?

superstu Posted on 12/05/2011 10:28
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

In County Durham! [;)]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 12/05/2011 10:30
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

less vague... where do Stockton FC play? i've never heard of them

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 12/05/2011 10:34
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Do scousers debate whether they are part of Lancashire/Cheshire, I wonder?

BoroPhil Posted on 12/05/2011 16:54
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"He's just using a recognisable phrase (we sang it?)

No we didn't"

I think you get my point - see DowningAlbion's post above.


ipad1977 Posted on 12/05/2011 17:32
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

If we're going on history, then Middlesbrough is officially in Danelaw.....

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 17:34
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

And no mention of Derbyshire now wheres my season card i want to rip the foooking thing up


Thought would be more effective if somebody sober had said it

Capybara Posted on 12/05/2011 17:36
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Impressive effort TC. I raise my hat.

MKredleaderOne Posted on 12/05/2011 18:11
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

DD

I used to work in Warrington.

They change to Cheshire for adminisrative purposes from Lancshire in 1974 (I think). I left there in 2006 and the natives were still removing signs for Cheshire and erecting new ones with Lancashire on them.

It must have been costing the council and them a fortune.

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 18:56
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

There's two parts of this whole argument I don't understand.

Firstly, why would anyone who supports Boro who lives in Stockton possibly be offended by Gibson's comments? It was in reference to people north of the river who support Sunderland - if this doesn't apply to you then where is the problem. I would understand people getting offended if Gibson had said "we don't care about supporters from Stockton" or "supporters from Stockton aren't as important as supporters from Middlesbrough" but he didn't.

Secondly, why are some people who live in Middlesbrough in some way bothered that it is in North Yorkshire? It means absolutely nothing to your life, it doesn't suggest some sort of affinity with people from Leeds or Sheffield (neither of which are North Yorkshire anyway). Yes, we have been messed about over the last 40 odd years - from Yorkshire to Teesside to Cleveland now back to Yorkshire again; it's not ideal but it makes no discernable difference to peoples lives, does it?

coluka Posted on 12/05/2011 18:58
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

O_G

Exactly [^]

There's non so blind as them that can't see [:D]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 19:02
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

'from Yorkshire to Teesside to Cleveland now back to Yorkshire again'

If you are accepting the 1st 2 moves you mention happened then you'll know that the 3rd hasn't

Now a unitary authority

ray192 Posted on 12/05/2011 19:06
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

TC

[:D]

Still blubbering i see [cr]

red_shamrock Posted on 12/05/2011 19:09
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Look what happened with Cleveland it has a stigma attached to it from the Yorkshire side of the water.

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 19:14
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Ray192 while everyone else gives an opinion one way or another you - as is usually the case - do nothing but make childish comments
You have made no direct comments to anyone else in the 200 posts on this thread
I'd tell you to grow up but I don't think that'll be happening any time soon

MKredleaderOne Posted on 12/05/2011 19:15
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Middlesbrough/Yorkshire didn't move.

Middlesbrough did however have a few different administrative bodies looking after its interests.

ray192 Posted on 12/05/2011 19:16
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

[:D]

I'm replying to the person who started the thread [^] though god knows why [V]

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 19:16
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

TC - I don't know why you have the idea that the unitary authority has any bearing on what county a place is in? This should help clear up any confusion (lifted directly from the Wikipedia page linked)

"York, Middlesbrough and Redcar and Cleveland are unitary authority boroughs which form part of the ceremonial county for various functions such as the Lord Lieutenant of North Yorkshire, but do not come under county council control. Uniquely for a district in England, Stockton-on-Tees is split between North Yorkshire and County Durham for this purpose. Middlesbrough, Stockton-on-Tees, and Redcar and Cleveland boroughs form part of the North East England region."

So although Middlesbrough, Redcar and Cleveland, and York are not covered by the county council, they are still considered part of the county of North Yorkshire.


Link: North Yorkshire

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 19:17
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

'Look what happened with Cleveland it has a stigma attached to it from the Yorkshire side of the water.'


That would be the bit south of Teesside [;)]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 19:19
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Ray192 this is my final post direct to you as arguing with a 50-odd year old still living with his mother telling me I'm a big baby is futile

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 19:20
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

That link above also contains the exact date Middlesbrough ceased to be part of Cleveland and reverted to be part of North Yorkshire - 1st April 1996.

And it wasn't an April fool by the way [:P]

coluka Posted on 12/05/2011 19:20
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Game Set & Match Old_Gregg [^] well done [:D]

red_shamrock Posted on 12/05/2011 19:21
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

We have a lot of Southerners and woolybacks poking their noses in[:D]


Link: Yorkshire to outsiders

red_shamrock Posted on 12/05/2011 19:23
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Stockton on Tees North Yorkshire..come on old gregg[:D]

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 19:24
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Thanks coluka [;)]

Although we will still have the same argument again in a few weeks time, and it will be the same usual suspects arguing blindly against the facts!

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 19:25
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Wikipedia can be altered by anyone [;)]

red_shamrock Posted on 12/05/2011 19:25
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Old Greggs put Stockton in North Yorkshire now[:D]

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 19:31
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"Old Greggs put Stockton in North Yorkshire now[:D]"

Are you really as daft as your posts make out? Stockton, as it says clearly, is split between County Durham and North Yorkshire.

Anyone who has ever been remotely near Stockton would know fine well that certain areas (Thornaby, Yarm, Ingleby Barwick) are south of the river, and therefore part of North Yorkshire; whereas the rest of the borough is in County Durham.

Come on, own up - have you ever been to this area before? You seem hopelessly clueless on basic local geography [:o)]

red_shamrock Posted on 12/05/2011 19:32
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Don`t get so wound up[:D][:D]..you won the internets[^]

red_shamrock Posted on 12/05/2011 19:33
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

How can a woolyback like you know Teesside.

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 19:35
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Thanks, but it's not really a "win" is it; all I did was found the facts about Middlesbrough being in Yorkshire - it only took a few minutes on the internet, and if anyone else had done it earlier we might not have over 200 posts on this thread, mostly nonsense!

MKredleaderOne Posted on 12/05/2011 19:36
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

OG, perhaps you should have said the Borough of Stockton on Tees rather than just Stockton.

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 19:38
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

"How can a woolyback like you know Teesside."

Not sure if that is directed at me, but considering I was born in Middlesbrough, brought up in Middlesbrough (and Stockton briefly [cr]), and now live in Middlesbrough, you would look pretty damn stupid if it was directed at me [;)]

Dibzzz Posted on 12/05/2011 19:40
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

We hate Gerodies
Oh we hate Geordies
We hate Geordies
Oh we hate Geordies
We hate Geordies
Oh we hate Geordies

We are the Geordie Haters !

T-T-TEESSIDERS !!!!!!!!!

keelo Posted on 12/05/2011 19:42
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I was born and bred in Whitby,a North Yorkshire lad, but being a seaman, shipping regularly out of Middlesbrough in the 60's and 70's and spending a lot of time in the pubs in town at that time, I love Middlesbrough me like....and I dont give a flying fcuk which county its in,its always close to my heart[^][smi]

Old_Gregg Posted on 12/05/2011 19:43
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Oh and for the record, I would love there to be a place called Teesside re-established, and I have no problem with saying I'm from Teesside.

red_shamrock Posted on 12/05/2011 20:01
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

[:D]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/05/2011 20:34
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I think you'll find most people accept it is established [^]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 13/05/2011 00:50
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

speckyget Posted on 11/05/2011 12:37


Teesside hasn't existed since 1974.

Seems alive and well though.


Exactly

coluka Posted on 13/05/2011 04:17
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

TC

Given your username, you are clearly torn yourself [8)]
Is all of this just because you don't want to have to change your username to 'NorthYorkshire'? [?] It'll be fine were a multi-cultural bunch and won't be taking out a super injunction to enforce you to change it (just yet) [;)]

Anyway, lets put our area differences of opinion to one side now the footy seasons over [ref] Have you been following the County cricket? Bairstow and Bresnan have been in fine form with the bat lately don't you think? [;)]


TeessideCleveland Posted on 13/05/2011 08:13
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

I follow Hampshire
They're south of the River Tees after all [;)]

Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 13/05/2011 13:19
Gibson reminds Stockton Mackems Boro is a town in Yorkshire

Just one final thing. I recall a few year most on here were up in arms that the area was being referred to as Tees Valley.

So after all that Middlesbrough is not in:-

Teesside, Tees Valley or Cleveland.

It's in YORKSHIRE.