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viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 00:25
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Right, I went along to the Riverside tonight to listen to the man himself speak about our current situation, where we are at the moment and where he thinks he can take us. At the risk of sounding ever-so-slightly sycophantic, the man oozed his usual blend of articulacy, honesty and passion. I'm writing these answers as I remember them so bits and pieces may be a bit sketchy, but hopefully I can get the gist of what he was saying across.

A supporter got the ball rolling by asking; 'Have you ever considered swapping Joe Bennett and Andrew Taylor over down the left?'

Mogga: 'No, not really. Joe Bennett has all the attributes needed to be a top modern-day left-back. If he doesn't go on to play Premier League football with Middlesbrough then I have absolutely no doubts that he will go on to play there with one of the top clubs in the country. I know how many scouts come to our matches and I know who they are coming down to watch. I make sure I know who they're coming to watch. Believe me, they're impressed by Joe Bennett. Stuart Pearce spoke very highly of him after the Portsmouth game on Saturday. I've tried swapping them(Bennett and Taylor) over in training and it doesn't really work. Andrew isn't mobile enough to play left-back, if we play him there then we need to play a player in front of him who will offer him some protection defensively, much like Stewart Downing did when he was here. Downing was very talented on the ball, of course, but we all know he did a good job for the team and offered the team protection. Joe isn't intelligent enough on the football pitch yet to play left-wing. He's better coming from left-back, over-lapping with the winger, where he can get himself into a position to beat a man or put a cross in. Andrew is better in midfield because he allows Joe to get forward, and he is experienced enough to know how to use the ball and the space. Joe Bennett is one I want to keep, of course, but if someone comes in with big money then we have to think about it. His wages aren't a problem for us but he is a player I can see a club paying 6, 7, 8, 9m for in the future.'

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 00:31
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Mogga: 'I hope Kris Boyd scores goals for Nottingham Forest because it means they might go up and come back to buy him in the summer. This is not a personal criticism of Kris Boyd but his salary means we can't keep him. He has to go. He's an honest lad and comes in every day, works hard and doesn't complain but he is on too much money for this football club. The same can be said for 6, 7, 8, 9 of our players. The wage-bill must come down. We tried to sell players in January but it was difficult. Billy Davies rang me to say he was looking for a striker last week and I mentioned the goalkeeping position. Paul Smith was on their bench when we drew 1-1 with them. So, Billy wanted a striker and we needed a goalie so we did the deal. I hadn't rang any Championship clubs about a 'keeper because Championship clubs tend not to help each other out, especially if you're struggling. A permanent deal isn't something we have discussed yet because we're not in a position to. It's very much a wait-and-see situation.'

stedontsurf Posted on 15/03/2011 00:32
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cheers for this v_a_n.

Much appreciated.

SW_Boro Posted on 15/03/2011 00:33
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Thanks viv

Very insightful [^]

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 00:37
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Mogga: 'I don't want to be disrespectful of Gordon Strachan because he has been very successful in the game for a lot longer than I have. He has his way of doing things and I have mine. Is he right or am I right? Who can say for sure? What I do know is that Gordon went for physical players to try and get this football club promoted and it didn't work. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, i've said it before. Gordon was building his team but maybe ran out of time a little bit and couldn't get things finished. There is a distinct lack of balance and pace in the squad. I've said that from the start. I don't doubt that Gordon tried to bring some pace in, in fact didn't he try and sign a winger from Scotland? He went for Craig Conway from Dundee United so he was trying to address the lack of pace but just couldn't get it done in the end. It's all about balance, the balance of the team and where we move the ball, where the players should be standing and at what time they should be there, why they should be there and why they should move into a certain area after they've played the ball. The squad lacking balance and pace doesn't help those things. It makes things harder.'

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 00:44
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Mogga: 'I've said it before but the situation is like this. It's like we have a massive bush in the garden. Before I can do anything, before I can start to rebuild, I have to start pruning this bush back. You know, the bush is huge at the moment. Massive. It's blocking out all the light from the window and we can't see anything. I have to take everything back to ground zero before I can turn things around. Kris Boyd leaving is the start of us being able to prune the bush and cut our cloth. Like I say, we have 6, 7, 8, 9 players who earn more than this club can afford to pay. That's not their fault, that's just the way it is and we have to accept that. Decisions were taken with the best of intentions but they haven't worked out. I have to be honest with you because I know you care about this football club as much as I do. We're in a position where we have to move players on, it's as simple as that.'

HarryVegas Posted on 15/03/2011 00:47
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Cheers for these Viv - it confirms to everyone that Mogga's a top man who talks like he played - ramrod straight.

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 00:48
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Sounds like an uphill gardening struggle.

roofie will be pleased, even if no one else is.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 00:51
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Mogga: 'The wages are too high. They have to go. It's a lot more difficult than it sounds because i've had conversations with players about our football club wanting to move them on. That impacts on the dressing-room. I've got young men who didn't know if they would be here from one week to the next during January. That impacts hugely on their lives. Do they bring their families down? Do they put their kids into school? Do they change their kids schools? Do they buy a house? Are their agents hawking them around other clubs? Are their agents doing the best for them? These things influence the way we play because some of the players can handle it better than others. When we win, like we did against Derby, the dressing-room is buzzing and they're all delighted. When we lose like we did at Reading then things are said, fingers are pointed, because people aren't sure of their futures and they're frustrated. It's a very difficult situation we're in. This is what we need to address over the summer. It won't be easy because some of the players we need to move on are on very good contracts with two, three years remaining on them. We have to hope other clubs will want to buy our players.'

Tuncay_Sanli Posted on 15/03/2011 00:51
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ffs we have to lose another 9 players thats a lot i wonder who they are and can they be replaced with similar or better players

expat_smoggie Posted on 15/03/2011 00:54
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So the others are... Arca, McManus, Thompson and McDonald?

SW_Boro Posted on 15/03/2011 00:54
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viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 01:00
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Mogga: 'Jason Steele will be a top, top goalkeeper. I have no doubts about that at all. None at all. I like my goalkeepers to come and collect the ball, punch the ball and take the pressure of the defenders. I like the goalie to come and clear it away from the danger area. I like players like Pepe Reina, players who come for crosses and command their areas. This is what I want Jason to do. People used to laugh at Bruce Grobbelaar but top manager after top manager kept picking him because he came for crosses and looked after his defence. He looked after his area. This is what me and Pearsy are working on with Jason. We think he can do it and we think we have a top, top goalkeeper on our hands. There was people on the phone in January asking about Jason but he stays with us. Like I say with Joe, if someone offers big, big money then we have to think about it. Maybe the break from the team due to injury will do a little bit of good for Jason because I saw in the local media that he's getting a bit of stick, a bit of pressure, so a few weeks out might help him along. He has been great for me so far, I just want him to come out and command his area. He is so young, we tend to forget his age, so we don't want to be putting pressure on him but I want him to come out and take crosses. If he comes out and misses one then that's my fault, not his. I can take that.'

TurnbullsCans Posted on 15/03/2011 01:07
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You can remember in that level of detail??!!! Take up Poker, Viv!!

Cheers, some insightful points there. Up to 9 of our players on wages that are too big is a big concern.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 01:09
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Mogga: 'There is no scouting system in place at our football club. We don't have a scouting network. It's as simple as that really. We had Gordon McQueen up until a short while ago and he had a couple of personal contacts, that's all, but there is no scouting network to speak of, no. When I was at West Brom we had everything on hard-disk, a whole raft of players, thousands and thousands of players from all over the world all on our database. We knew their attributes. We knew them inside out. If I needed a player then I could consult my, our, database and put a short-list together. When I went to Celtic we had a similar thing. Thousands and thousands of players, from every corner of the globe really, all on hard-disk. When I needed a player I used it. I could make a copy of it, take it home and study it. This doesn't exist at Middlesbrough. We don't have that facility. I don't know why, who was responsible for it, but we don't have anything like that. I know Gordon(Strachan) doesn't use scouts, he uses his contacts. Like I say, he has his way and I have mine. I like to think i'm a modern manager and i'm thorough. It's not me being arrogant but nobody prepares their team, their staff, more thoroughly than I do. Should I have brought a copy of my database down with me when I took the job? Possibly, but then you have to ask; does the database belong to me or the club? So, maybe I should have brought it with me but it's gone now, in the past. I didn't know about the scouting network, or not having one in place, until I took the Boro job.'

TurnbullsCans Posted on 15/03/2011 01:12
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That is truly astounding [V]

asredastheycome Posted on 15/03/2011 01:21
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Also said that our wage bill was double that of the WBA side that won the championship under Mogga. Said they all had contracts that halfed their wages when they got relegated. Thats how they could afford to keep the team together and get back to the Premier league so soon. The players fighting to get back up so they could get their wages back up to premier levels. He said some of ours are still on Premier wages.

Gillandi Posted on 15/03/2011 01:22
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Bloody hell, Eric Paylor will be spoilt for choice for a leader in tonights Gazette.

Or should I say this mornings Gazette?

Great work Viv.

never known such candour from a Boro manager since the great Lennie Lawrence was in charge.

I was going to ring my contacts at the News Of The World to get copies of these data-bases but I doubt they'd be much use to us in our present financial state.

SW_Boro Posted on 15/03/2011 01:23
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Interesting / Astounding

asredastheycome Posted on 15/03/2011 01:26
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Mogga said that they do not even have enough heart monitors for each first team member. He reckons they cost £40 - £60 each but they have only 12 they have to share around.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 01:28
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Mogga: 'Preparation is everything. I'm thorough. I get out of bed at 6.45am and I go to work, I go to the training ground and I run for 30 minutes to prepare myself for my working day. I'm in all day, every day, really. I don't switch off because I love football. I'm a student of the game. Like tonight, i've taped Norwich v Bristol City and i'll watch it when I go home, i'll be up until 1am because I want to see how they play, how they move the ball, which systems they use. When we lose a game I don't sleep for three days because I can't switch it off. I want to know why we lost, why he played well or didn't play well or didn't do this or that, did our training help or were the tactics off? Could I have prepared them better? This is what i'm thinking about all of the time. It's not just because my family haven't moved up yet, they will do soon, that I spend my days like this. I do it because I love the game and I want to succeed at Middlesbrough Football Club. I want the club to succeed because I know how much it means to the town. When I was a lad it was all about going to the match on a Saturday with our Dad. That's what I want now and it saddens my heart to see the empty seats, all the red seats around the stadium. I'm upset before we even kick-off when we play at home because I can see all the seats and I know what this place can be like when it's full. I came here with West Brom, and as a player with Ipswich, and I felt the force of the fans driving the team on. I want to get that back. That's the aim for me and the chairman. That's not an excuse, by the way, about the atmosphere or empty seats impacting on my players. I understand why crowds have fallen. Ultimately, the team haven't performed. I want the pubs and working men's clubs to be full of people talking about how brilliant Boro were on Saturday, which in turn leads to them bringing a mate who then brings his kids, that's how we get the fans back in here. It's my job to build a team to get the fans back, make them proud and I think I can do it. Actually, I know I can do it. I've done it with West Brom, with Hibs and I could've done it with Celtic but they didn't give me the time. I will do it again for Boro and then, in the long run, we can maybe go out and buy another Ravanelli, or a Ziege, or a Merson, or a Mendieta, let's name them. That's where I want to take this club and I can do it, but it will take time.'

offside-again Posted on 15/03/2011 01:35
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Superb report Viv, good read that. [^]

Gillandi Posted on 15/03/2011 01:36
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I've had a pretty lousy day today but i'm going to go to bed happy now after reading that. [^]

Thanks again Viv's nan.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 01:42
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Mogga: 'Look, there is no sports scientist at our club. We don't have one. The training facilities are great but we don't have any specialists in place. The team have to share heart monitors. We have twelve, fourteen, sixteen of them and we share them amongst the group. They cost around £40-60 but we don't have enough for each team member to have one to themselves. That isn't how a modern football club should be. When I took West Brom to Manchester United, Fergie comes looking for me for a chat, that's what he does. He loves the game. He likes to pick the brains of the new coaches and managers, the new talent if you like. We talked for an hour or two, about this player and that player and what have you, and I find out that every member of his squad pretty much has their own individual sports scientist. That's what they do. They have someone to look after their muscles, their coaching, their diet, their sleeping patterns. That's a modern, successful club and that's how it should be. It might mean I have to go to the chairman and say 'I'll go without that player so I can have this treatment, or this scientist or doctor. I'll sell him to pay for it. If he has to go then for the good of the club, and for the good of my players, then he has to go.' I'll happily sell a player to pay for sports science people because that is how you run a football club. You have to think about the bigger picture. Like Leroy, last week, if we had the equipment available then maybe I would've known about his hamstring before it happened. The scientists would've told me about it and we could maybe have taken Leroy off and put Marvin on, instead of taking Scotty off, and we might not lose Leroy. The players are working too hard because of all the injuries in the squad. I can't rotate or freshen things up. The same lads train and play and training is difficult. I have to keep things ticking over with a bit of five-a-side, a bit of tactical stuff, a bit of coaching, because the players are doing too much. I was surprised about the sports science stuff here but that's the way it is. I will put it right because I want this to be a proper club and i'm working on it every single day.'


*edit - He went on to say that he has nicked a sports scientist from the academy. The only specialist at the club as it happens.

shaunb86 Posted on 15/03/2011 01:45
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thanks viv [^]

i have said this over and over but i could honestly listen to mogga talk all night long. he is a top bloke and i wouldnt want anyone else running our football club right now. amazing guy [^]

shaunb86 Posted on 15/03/2011 01:48
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you would think that the lads would but their own if the club is that short of cash!

offside-again Posted on 15/03/2011 01:52
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Crikey, we can't even afford 40-60 notes ! [cr]

Time to look down the back of the sofa. [|)]

Towell Posted on 15/03/2011 01:52
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Love reading Mogga talk.

Makes the thought of returning to the UK in a few weeks time almost bearable so I can get back to supporting the Boro properly.


viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 02:19
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Mogga: 'I want us to play football. I want us to be an exciting football team who knock the ball around, pull the opposition around the pitch, excite the fans, score loads of goals and win loads of matches. We don't have the players to do that at the moment and I don't like the way we're playing at the moment but we will get there. It will take time. In this league it's bish-bash-bosh, no time, crunching tackles, fighting. I can understand why the people of Teesside would want to see their players crunching into tackles and fighting for the shirt because I stood on the terraces at Ayresome Park and I know what it means to people. I don't want us to play like that. I want us to play football. I want to outplay the opposition and show them we're a better football team than they are. When we have to fight, we have to fight, of course, but we are a football team. In the dressing-room against Derby at half-time, I said to them; 'what would you do if you're in the street and someone comes up and has a go at you, or your wife or girlfriend? You roll your sleeves up, take your shirt off and go fist-to-fist and you fight.' At the moment, that's where we are. We aren't a football team yet. To be fair to the players, when I have asked them to dig-in, like at Millwall and against Derby, they have. But in the long-term we want to out-football the opposition. We don't have the players to play the kind of football we want to play yet. It is my job to get rid of the players who don't play that way and find players who will. When I see QPR at the top of this league i'm embarrassed for the league, to be honest. They're not a football team. They're a team of men doing men's jobs. We're a team of boys doing men's jobs and that's why we are where we are. I rang Groundsy when he was up at Hibs and he couldn't get in their team. Their highest-earner is on £1,500p/w. He couldn't get a game for them. He said; 'gaffer, i'm a left-back and I want to play left-back.' Jonathan is a left-back and we have to play him in central-defence and tell him to do a man's job because we don't have anyone else. Stephen McManus is a man. I sold him to Middlesbrough from Celtic. We've missed him because he likes to head the ball. Like David Wheater, myself and Pally. Rhys is the same. He's doing a great job for me and I think he is a very, very good player but we're asking him to do a man's job and it's very difficult. We don't have a six-foot-four centre-half to head the ball out. Matty can time a jump but he isn't the biggest. Leroy has to mark their centre-halves when we're defending corners because we don't have the defenders to do it. When teams like Millwall come up here with their big physical players and want to turn it into a fight, we can't do it. The players at the club don't want to play like that and their size doesn't allow them to. We're a small team compared to the rest of the league. I want to get players in who can play the game, whether they be a striker who links it all up like Yakubu, or someone who is good at heading the ball down and around their box, or someone who can sit in midfield, move the ball around and protect the defence while the other midfielder gets forward to score goals and play with the strikers, that's what we want.'

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 02:29
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Mogga: 'I had three or four other offers before the Boro job came along. At the time, I was owed a lot of money by Celtic and they weren't prepared to do a deal to allow me to take those jobs so I didn't take them. I thought they were being unfair so I waited. Then the Boro job comes up and I was interested. I spoke with Keith and Steve and we knew we had to do something with Celtic. I personally wrote-off around £350,000 to take the Middlesbrough job. That's not me boasting, it's just the way it is. I wanted to get back to work really. I think my family were getting sick of me and I needed to get back in. When I started out in management the Boro job was so far away it was unbelievable. Boro were getting to FA Cup finals and League Cup finals and had Viduka and Juninho and those type of players. They were an established Premier League club and I was a new, young manager. I thought the Middlesbrough job was something I would have to work towards for a very, very long time and even then you're never sure if you'll get it. Everything has to line-up. The club needed a manager and I was out of work. I decided that I couldn't take the risk of not taking the job because I didn't know if I would ever get the chance to manage the club again. That's the way football is. I knew when I was 22 that I wanted to be a football manager. Bruce Rioch triggered something in me, in my mind, in my thought pattern and I knew I wanted to be a manager.'

newjersey Posted on 15/03/2011 02:51
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Cheers Viv.

Much appreciated!

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viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 03:02
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Mogga: 'Things might get worse before they get better. The position we find ourselves in means I can't build a team yet because if we put some good performances together and start to win games regularly, bigger clubs than ours, or richer clubs if you like, will come in for my better players and we have to sell. That's the way it is. We have to sell them. It's hard because I want to build an exciting and successful team at Middlesbrough but I have to sell at the same time. I'm going to need time and i'd like to think that Steve will allow me that time. He has been kind to his managers in the past and I think he will do the same for me. I've explained the situation to him. He knows the state the football club is in. He is putting millions and millions into this club to keep it going at the moment and that has to end some time. I read in the Gazette the other day that Bernie thinks Steve has no ambition any more. I think he's wrong. Steve spent around £12m last summer because he wanted this football club to get back into the Premier League. I think Steve will allow me to bring players in but things will be different. When I was at West Brom we had a strict wage-structure. If the club went up then the player's wages were doubled. If they came back down, which they invariably did and may do again this year, then their salary is halved and we start again. That's how you maintain a football club. This club didn't see relegation coming and it has cost a lot. The wage-bill at West Brom, and we won the league title don't forget, is half of what we pay here. It can't go on like that because the stadium is less than half-full on a match-day, the TV money isn't there and the parachute money is going to run out. We need to strip it right back and start again. I want to build the club up again. Listen, the days of a manager coming in and buying the players, taking the coaching sessions, doing the massages, sorting the tactics, those days are long gone. In modern football you build a staff. I want my players to know who to go to if they have a problem. If they're worried about a muscle then they go to the club doctor. If they want more coaching then they go to the coaches and we put some extra sessions on with the youth lads and work on stuff, as a club. I want to build that up because at the moment none of this is in place here. We have a small staff but I will change it and make it stronger, better. So, I say again; you have to be patient because the situation we find ourselves in means we might get worse before we get better. I said earlier about scouts watching our players and I will struggle to hold on to some of them. Rhys Williams is a good player, Joe Bennett, Kevin Thomson, we have five or six very good footballers here but our situation means that I can't build my team around them at the moment. It will take time. Hopefully not too long, but it will take time.'

br14 Posted on 15/03/2011 03:13
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I can't remember reading this much honesty about the club in forty years of supporting Boro.

Fantastic. But just what you'd expect from the man.

Thanks for taking the trouble to let us all read and helping regain some hope.


anterimus Posted on 15/03/2011 03:45
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Cheers for putting all this, appreciate it took time. Great to read. To hear mogga speaking so openly and honestly is great. In Mogga I trust

HardwickGeorge Posted on 15/03/2011 03:50
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Fantastic effort Viv! Many thanks for this!

Exactly what the supporters need to hear...a bit of honesty. I've been saying it for ages, SG should adopt this policy and communicate with the fans. I am sure everybody would rather hear it as it is rather than the Chinese whispers that exist at the moment.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 15/03/2011 03:58
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Thanks Viv for taking the time to do this.

Love Moggas honesty, I just wish it was better news.

Bukowski Posted on 15/03/2011 05:12
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Really good read.

However, Mogga really does reveal just how amateurishly the club has been run.

coluka Posted on 15/03/2011 05:40
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Viv - you are indeed a star. [^]

Furthermore you must have recorded the discussions or are indeed the man himself [8)]

TRANSIT-TRIPPER Posted on 15/03/2011 05:45
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Thanks very much Viv for all that you have typed.

I has shivers down my spine whist reading some of that on nights.

I love Mogga, me

Decent_Left Posted on 15/03/2011 06:58
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Reading that ( thanks VAN) makes me weep for the calamitous decision making of Gibson and Lamb, compounded by serial breaking of the trades description act by the 2 GS's using the words football and manger to describe themselves over the last 4 years.

In Mogga we trust UTB

Glad I was right about Taylor at full back as well[ref]

gravy173 Posted on 15/03/2011 07:34
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Its this sort of honesty we've been wanting out of the club for the last 4 years, we're big boys and can take the bad news and would appreciate it. If Gibbo came out and told us this then his stock would rise and he may get more supporters on side. A bit of honesty would do wonders at the moment and he needs to think of this in his ST message and invaraible Radio Tees broadcast due soon.

halifaxp Posted on 15/03/2011 07:41
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Just another big thankyou to you, Viv, for taking the time and trouble to keep us informed. Really appreciate it!

the_dude_abides Posted on 15/03/2011 07:46
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[^]excellent transcription viv, thoroughly enjoyed reading that this morning at work

borolad259 Posted on 15/03/2011 08:09
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Just brilliant VAN. Thank you.

ray192 Posted on 15/03/2011 08:15
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speckyget Posted on 15/03/2011 08:23
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OMallezo Posted on 15/03/2011 08:46
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Without doubt the best thing I've read on here.

Well transcribved VAN! [^]

In Mogga & Gibson We Trust [^][^][^]

UTB

Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 08:52
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Horrorfying and awe inspoiring at the same time. I'm excited by all Mogga says about sorting out the backromm, the specialists and building a new side, but I can't even see us staying up next year if have to lose 6-8 big earners with minimal funds for replacements.

Who are our 8 top earners?

Boyd
McDonald
Arca
Thomson
McManus
Hoyte
Lita
Robson

(not in order)

byrno Posted on 15/03/2011 08:58
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Cheers Viv. I am almost in tears reading this. The man is a legend.

PinkPonce Posted on 15/03/2011 09:00
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Cheers Viv - excellent read!

A bit concerning is the mention of the high earners and players not knowing whether to move family down etc - it obviously points to the Scottish contingent and I'd hazard a guess that 5 or the 9 high earners are Thomson, McDonald, McManus, Robson and Boyd whih makes me think that they're all open to offers in the summer ...

PP ... x

Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 09:02
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I forgot Digard as well, I dare say he's on decent money.

OMallezo Posted on 15/03/2011 09:04
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Good shout for the higher earners..

Gotta believe some of the 'kids' will be on decent money, mainly thinking about Taylor & Bates here (he was regular first teamer in the Prem)..

My list would be:

McDonald
Lita
Arca
Thomson
McManus
Hoyte
Robson
Bates

I wonder what constitues big wages in this league though.. I remember an interview with Southgate when we was talking about the kids at this club who actually cound't believe that people can survive on less than £40k a year.

futureboy Posted on 15/03/2011 09:08
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I'm so glad we have someone who cares in charge [^] If anyone can help us, it's Mogga. His answers are spot on.

But fcuk me, the situation is dire.

Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 09:08
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I seem to recall a first pro contract for those who were prem squad regulars was rumoured to be about £10K a week, don't know if that's true or not. I'd assume players like Taylor and Bates who signned new contracts in the Prem may be on more than that. I dare say Lita being a striker and on a free may be a on a decent wedge as well.

lelgie10 Posted on 15/03/2011 09:10
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Fantastic read[^][^][^]

Thanks for putting that up. Good listen/read Mogga quotes all day long. So refreshingly honest.

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 09:17
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I thought Bates signed his after we'd got relegated??

Kilburn Posted on 15/03/2011 09:17
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Kudos VAN.

So, now we know the scale of the job facing Mogga.

The good news is that from reading the above, if anyone can sort it out, he can.

peterkay Posted on 15/03/2011 09:20
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Lets hope Gibson gives Mowbray a long term contract, I hope he does not end up getting frustrated and leave for another club.

Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 09:20
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Yeah, I think you're probably right there Captain.

gravy173 Posted on 15/03/2011 09:23
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To be honest I fdont think its as bad as it sounds...

Arca and Taylor are out of contract in the summer anyway so they will be 2 of them and we'll only resign them if they take a massive drop in wages which they are both interested in doing if reports are correct.

That leaves the following

Boyd - Hasn't been playing, wouldnt be a miss
Hoyte - Hasn't been playing, wouldnt be a miss
Thomson - Hasn't been playing, wouldnt be a miss - always injured
McDonald - On current form wouldn't be a miss
McManus - Hasn't been playing, wouldnt be a miss as long as replaced with a cheaper alternative or Rhys Williams
Digard - Not here anyway

The big problem is finding someone to buy them!

The other squad members likely to be on good money are Bailey, Bates, Lita and Robson, of them only Bailey and Lita would be a miss, Robson has been crap this season and Bates is another perma crock.

Kilburn Posted on 15/03/2011 09:26
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That's not very reassuring to me gravy.

Mowbray is saying that we have to get rid of our top earners before he can do anything. The fact that they are crocked or not contributing just makes it harder to do that and increases the chance of another season like this one.

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 09:29
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I think, reading into it a bit further, he'll actually get rid, over less time than might allow us to improve quickly, of pretty much everybody who was already established in the first team squad before he arrived.

He's going to be asking players to come in who will be on a fraction of those who are already here and I don't see how that works unless they are all being moved out.

tom_mate Posted on 15/03/2011 09:29
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I'm glad Boyd has gone but isn't it a bit daft that we can't afford a players wages 6 months after we signed him? Couldn't they forecast that?

Fearless_Fish Posted on 15/03/2011 09:33
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I think it's pretty obvious that Gibson was prepared to take a hit on Boyd's wages and get us promoted - where Boyd's wages wouldn't matter. The gamble failed and now we have to get rid.

The big earners situation is a two-edged sword - from what was written above, we're not really going to miss those 8/9 players from the playing side of things which is excellent, but as pointed out that only makes it harder to move them on.

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 09:38
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The gamble was made in the summer on us getting back into the PL.

Once that's become very clear it wasn't happening, Stachan has left and the plan changes. Which is sensible if you think about it.

It's just that the gamble didn't pay off. That's why they're called gambles.

joebonano Posted on 15/03/2011 09:41
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I dont want this to sound like a rant at Gibson/ Lamb but some of the stuff revealed by Mogga shows what an utter shambles of financial management and club management this club has had.
a]No scouting system for a club that had 11 years in the PL is scandalous
b]No sports science-probably explains why we always have 10 or more players injures
c]Signing players on big money then 4-6 months down the line trying to get rid because we cant afford their wages.
Its perhaps no wonder that Gibson and Lamb have shut up-out of embarassment.

LTS_3 Posted on 15/03/2011 09:44
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Some of that stuff just shows how amateur we are. You can have an amazing training ground etc, but we have no scouts, no player database and no sport scientist. WTF.

Well done for typing all that up. If it was all from memory, you should start counting cards [^]

sasboro1 Posted on 15/03/2011 09:54
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no surprise that strachan never bothered with scouts.


bit of a worry that we havent started rebuilding. reading between the lines, quite a few players still have to be sold and we will do well to finish mid table next season

TheSmogMonster Posted on 15/03/2011 09:58
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Does anyone else feel like chipping in for a copy of Champo for Mogga to use as a database till the club can afford whatever he was using before?

Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 10:04
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"reading between the lines"

WTF Sas, he clearly states players will have to be sold.

ccole Posted on 15/03/2011 10:04
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Thanks for that[^]

The more I hear him, the more I think he is the man for the job and start to feel a little exicted about this club. We are very close to bottoming out, then the only way is up.

Having read his words above, then many on here and Bernie foooking Slaven should hang his head in shame over the the digs at Gibson.

sasboro1 Posted on 15/03/2011 10:06
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people had a go at me a few months ago when i dare to suggest we have atleast 2- 3 seasons in this division. has reality kicked in and we are miles away from promotion. its not going to be much better next year.

Kilburn Posted on 15/03/2011 10:08
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I find it hard to believe that we didn't have the likes of sports scientists at some stage, given how into all that kind of stuff McClaren was.

If we had them in the past, then who decided to take us back to the sporting dark ages?

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 10:09
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Kilburn, I would think they probably went when we got relegated.

Muttley Posted on 15/03/2011 10:14
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Thanks, sobering read but also encouraging

Thanks for taking the time to transcribe.

Dibzzz Posted on 15/03/2011 10:16
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This is brilliant, it's great to have a manager who really cares and gives you straight and detailed answers.

Just look at the contrast with Strachan.

Reading this only gives me hope for the future [^][:D]

Libbins Posted on 15/03/2011 10:21
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An absolutely horrifying read.

As if the club didn't see relegation coming though. Surely, and I was under the impression at the time that, our new signings from the Southgate era would have relegation clauses in them, like say they'd lose 30% of their wages if they were relegated.

Anyway, it's quite sickening really, the clip of the club.

But having said that, it makes me want to buy a season ticket again, hearing his honesty and how much he loves the club. It's mesmerizing.

Cheers viv, top lad. [^]

Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 10:23
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I just need to win the £90 million on Friday night now to help Gibbo out a bit.

I couldn't stomach paying players wages though so I'd ask Gibbo to cover that[;)], although I'd be happy to pay the transfer fees. I'll also pay for the up keep of all the facilities and the best backroom and medical staff we can get. I'd only ask in return for a nice executive box, a couple of parking spaces with the players cars and Andrew Taylor to do with as I see fit[^].

Libbins Posted on 15/03/2011 10:25
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"reading between the lines, quite a few players still have to be sold"

Thanks Columbo [:D]

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 10:30
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Sleaford, you pervert.

mowgli69 Posted on 15/03/2011 10:33
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To be fair on the wages front, we have always know that Middlesbrough has had to pay over and above the premium for players, due to our geography and 'Unfashionable' status. Players would simply not have come here had they had relegation clauses inserted in there contracts.

It is bad news to see that some of the stuff coming out of this session eg the scouting and sports science.

The heart monitor thing just sums it all up!

davidchadwick Posted on 15/03/2011 10:37
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went to listen to mogga last night.
he was as impressive as viv anderson's nana's memory is.
a spot on summary of the night.
just can't grasp the ineptitude of the way the club has been run/mismanaged since eindhoven.


Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 10:37
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You don't know what I'm going to with him[;)].

I'd probably just make him re-enact the start of Saturday Night Fever a couple of times a week and cut my grass.

centralscrutinizer Posted on 15/03/2011 10:43
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Superb thread viv [^]

All we need is for our supporters to take all that info on board and get behind Mowbray to help him fulfil his ambitions for the club.

Re: the sports science dept, I seem to recall we did have one but it was closed after we got relegated.

Dibzzz Posted on 15/03/2011 10:51
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If this thread doesn't get over a ton there's something seriously wrong with this board.

It's the best thing that's been on it since it started.

chitsa Posted on 15/03/2011 10:54
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Post of the Year for me, that.

Great reading. Well done, VAN [^]

Bandy Posted on 15/03/2011 10:55
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Good stuff viv - keep it up!

MawTheMerrier Posted on 15/03/2011 10:57
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Cheers Viv [^]

Fabulous read and the honesty of the man is brilliant to see and so refreshing in modern football.

Also, note that he took a £350k hit to take the job and he added that Gibbo is still putting £millions in, so I would ask everyone to buy a season ticket for next year. I cant get to every game, but i still bought a ST to 'invest' in the club I support.

Time to forget the past and forgive the mistakes. Time to go back to the Riverside [^]

gravy173 Posted on 15/03/2011 10:57
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Up there with the touchline posts from the tail end of last season, makes a change to have some good posts about the boro on here

ron_manager Posted on 15/03/2011 11:07
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What an inteligent, astute and eloquent manager we have in Tony Mowbray. One of our own. A man raised in the very schools we attended and our kids do, our accent, our outlook, our passion. I'm very proud to have him as our manager and come what may I will always remember he has the very best interests of MFC at his heart[^]

Libbins Posted on 15/03/2011 11:07
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The reason I don't go much anymore is cos we've been dire on the pitch but more so because we don't seem to know what we're doing off it. The Irony is that now it's been confirmed we definitely don't know what we're doing, it's made me want to come back and shell out for a season card. Hats off to Mogga. Straight as an arrow.

Sleaford Posted on 15/03/2011 11:11
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Same here Libbins[^].

Hoping for some good job news in the near future so I can move (much nearer) home.

gravyboat Posted on 15/03/2011 11:20
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'When we have to fight, we have to fight, of course, but we are a football team. In the dressing-room against Derby at half-time, I said to them; 'what would you do if you're in the street and someone comes up and has a go at you, or your wife or girlfriend? You roll your sleeves up, take your shirt off and go fist-to-fist and you fight.'

Outstanding.

Top effort viv, really interesting. Cheers.

Boro_Brick_Road Posted on 15/03/2011 11:20
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I was there last night.

Mowbray is certainly one of the most inspirational people I have ever heard speak! the motivation, the knowledge, the passion - by the end of the evening I was ready to march down to the ticket office and demand that I could pay for next years season ticket there & then [^]

As Mogga said if we can turn this downward spiral upwards well have a hell of a good time!!!

He can't do it on his own with kids we need the crowds, we need a little blind faith from the fans.

The journey starts here...........

A_Realist Posted on 15/03/2011 11:24
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Fantastic post..........thanks Viv

got me motivated

redlion Posted on 15/03/2011 11:26
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Excellent viv[^],if anyone was in doubt that Mogga was the right man for the job this answers it.

In Mogga We Trust

slavens_left_peg Posted on 15/03/2011 11:27
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I thought the best part was when someone questioned whether you could win the championship playing football rather than fighting it out, he replied i know it can because i did it with west brom.

He also said that after playing QPR he was embarrassed for the state of the league if they are the best team in it

billsykes Posted on 15/03/2011 11:51
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FAO Rob
This thread should be pinned at the top so that when the going gets tough and the fans start to doubt, it can be referred to, re-read and inspire us again and again.

woolyback Posted on 15/03/2011 11:59
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He was great wasn't he? Did anyone else notice how Dave Allen stood over him and watched him like a hawk?
I actually got the chance to speak to him at the end and thanked him for his efforts and were much appreciated by the supporters. I also made a point of saying in front of Neil Bausor that the club needs to make friends with the supporters again and Mogga is doing his bit.

MightyDuck Posted on 15/03/2011 12:00
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great stuff that Viv. cannot believe the scouting system was so bad.

erimus74 Posted on 15/03/2011 12:05
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Thoroughly enjoyed TM honesty, even at the end when he was posing for photos & signed memorabilia, including my ZDC shirt, he was talking openly to the people & in no hurry to get away.

Easy to state legends today, see Southgate, but this man is a true legend.

UTB

PAULIEJ Posted on 15/03/2011 12:16
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Viv, can only echo the thanks for the update from last night. It pretty much re-affirms my thoughts on Mowbray the man and Mowbray the mangager. It is difficult for the club at the moment but if you wanted one person as our leader right now then we couldn,t wish for better-the only way is surely up once this season is out of the way.
Just one quick gripe from me though on the back of the heart monitor situaton if I may? Why the hell aren,t the players going out and buying their own to help out a bit? It is not like they cannot afford it. We are all in this together and little gestures like that would go a hell of a long way to bridging the gap between players and suporters.
Top post Viv, it has pretty much made my day.

Quaban_Rings_The_Legends Posted on 15/03/2011 12:26
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I had shivers down my spine reading that. Anybody reading that and still not convinced to get behind the team and, more importantly, the manager, needs to give their head a wobble.

What a fantastic man we have as our manager.

shaunb86 Posted on 15/03/2011 12:33
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paulie - my thoughts entirely [^]

THEBOROBOSS Posted on 15/03/2011 12:36
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Great post Viv [^]

"In Mog we Trust"


zaphod Posted on 15/03/2011 12:40
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Getting relegated & the misery of the last few seasons will all be worthwhile if the club is finally put on a solid professional management basis.

His comment about the lack of scouting chimes in with observations that we've tended to sign players who've played well against us.

Revenelli Posted on 15/03/2011 12:44
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the club do have a player database/ it was used to buy such amazing successes as Afonso Alves and Dong Gook Lee. its called youtube.com

MaxPower Posted on 15/03/2011 12:45
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Great read that.

Top earners?
Hoyte, McDonald, McManus, Arca, Thomson, Boyd, Robson, Taylor, Digard

I think Arca, Hoyte, Boyd, Digard, Thomson and Taylor will go in the summer which will free up some space.

I can't believe that players there on whatever £ a week, can go into work and wait around for a heart monitor to stop being used by someone else when they could just buy a new one for £50.

pierrequiroule Posted on 15/03/2011 12:45
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[^] Inspirational stuff from Tony.

Let's hope he can afford to buy the club one day. [:P]

stevie-g888 Posted on 15/03/2011 12:46
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Thanks for taking the time to put all this down on here v_a_n
[^]

I hope that it gives the fans an insight (a close insight, at that) into what problems we have and how Mogga is trying to get us into a better situation.

He wants a better quality of football, he wants us to be financially sustainable, he wants better results and most of all he wants a football club that the fans will want to come to the Riverside and support.... and enjoy it as well!

We're all singing from the same hymn sheet then.
All, apart from the fans who take for granted that we SHOULD be in the Premiership, SHOULD be competing for places in Europe and those that think we SHOULD be able to pay extortionate, obscene wages to players who under achieve, but are happy to line their pockets at MFC's expense. [sad]

I hope that fans who are disappointed at our plight will read this, and see where we are and how we can rebuild again. We obviously have to take a few steps back before we can go forward again, but I seriously have my enthusiasm back about where we are going. We may not have Premiership football at the Riverside for some time yet, but believe me, I would rather watch a team managed by Our Manager in any division if his ambition and determination remains with him.

Match days are a much better experience when the ground is full for supporters AND players alike. Of course, I have to add that it is also better if we are playing good football, winning matches and have something other than pride to compete for, but that will come.....Mogga will make sure of that[^][smi]

Up The Boro[^]

Dibzzz Posted on 15/03/2011 12:49
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Revenelli [:D]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 15/03/2011 12:58
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Some of it's a little too honest for my liking. Not meant as a criticism of Mogga, just that the situation doesn't make good reading. Mogga's got one helluva job on his hands, but judging by this, he seems well up for it, which is no surprise for someone of his stature. To have no scouting system is unbelievable. Scouts aren't just there to research potential transfer targets, but also compile reports on opponents. I didn't realise that the sports science dept was virtually non-existent. Whatever happened to Chris Barnes? Did we let him go to cut costs?

Well done Viv's nana and well done Mogga for such refreshing honesty and telling it has it is, even if the truth doesn't make comfortable reading. Mogga must be hurting like hell to see the club in its current state but is still an inspiration.

Even prouder to come from Teesside.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 12:58
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Absolutely no worries about transcribing it all. I just made bullet points in my little notebook as to what the question was and remembered the rest really. I sat that there absolutely transfixed for almost two hours as he spoke in such depth and honesty about our football club that I just absorbed everything.

I knew when he was speaking that I would be able to remember it almost word-for-word. He said things we ALL need to hear and know about. I'm happy to pass the information on because like I say, it's for us.

At least we have the honesty in place now. Judging by the reaction on this thread, the club don't need to be scared of telling the fans just how bad things are. I think we all feel a bit better now we know the situation.

We have the right man in place now, that's for sure. Under Tony Mowbray's stewardship this club is going places. It might take a couple of years but we are definitely going places.

'IN MOGGA WE TRUST'

marsked_magician Posted on 15/03/2011 12:59
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That was absolutely superb Viv. Enjoyed reading it.


I havent read the entire thread so you might have said already but, surely you voice recorded that whole thing last night to get that much detail in. Its scary!

If you have remembered all that in that much detail, then you should definitely take up chess my man!

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 15/03/2011 13:00
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"He said things we ALL need to hear and know about. I'm happy to pass the information on because like I say, it's for us."

Exactly. He's told us what we need to hear rather than what we want to hear.


viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 13:03
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Ha, some people say chess, some people say poker! All I can say is that I didn't record the event. There was no need to. Everything he said resonated so much that it was all spinning around in my head on the walk home and I knew I needed to get it down as soon as I got in. I have a good memory and last night it came in very useful indeed.

stevie-g888 Posted on 15/03/2011 13:05
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marsked_magician....

you know better than to ask whether it was recorded, because that is illegal (without the person knowing).

I just think that v_a_n has a remarkable memory[;)]

atkingson Posted on 15/03/2011 13:08
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Bit confusing that. He say's Taylor isnít mobile enough to play left back so then does that mean he doesnít have to be mobile to play left wing? Another thing Mogga said which confused me was, was about Joe Bennett not being intelligent enough on the pitch to play left wing surely playing left back requires a lot more intelligence than playing left wing doesnít it?

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 15/03/2011 13:14
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The only concern I have is that he's come out and said that Boyd has to go. Not sure he should be saying on the record which individuals will leave this summer, even though Boyd would be top of just about everyone's list. It also weakens the bargaining position.

I still trust in Mogga. As I've said, this is the most positive I've been about a manager for a long time.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 13:20
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The memory things is all completely true. If I was going to record it I would have had to get permission off Mogga first, and probably Dave Allah as well, so it would've been a ball-ache to do because I doubt they would have let me do it.

About Boyd, PTCFT, I wouldn't worry. Clubs know we're selling players as we offered them around in January. That's the situation. They have to go and clubs and managers know that.

attonBORO Posted on 15/03/2011 13:33
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Tony Mowbray - what a man!!

I have to say though that im REALLY P1SSED off with Steve Gibson. We have no specialists, yet there are many golf-specialists at Rockcliffe!!!!!! Priorities i suppose.....

charjamol64 Posted on 15/03/2011 13:37
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So basically, Gibbo has brought us full circle [V]

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 15/03/2011 13:43
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...we get the picture. There was NO voice recorder [;)]

All in all it's not good news. Mogga said it will get worse before it gets better and some on here are not prepared for what that means. He talks to fans like they were grown-ups. Is that wise?

attonBORO Posted on 15/03/2011 13:44
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BTW Viv - This IS THE post of the year!!! Brilliant stuff fella!! Thanks

Spartakus Posted on 15/03/2011 13:53
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This is a far better call to the ramparts than 'Blind Faith'.

Mowbray is simply a legend

attonBORO Posted on 15/03/2011 13:55
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No wonder Bruce Rioch uttered those famous words about Mogga!! Id go to the moon and go into battle with him!!

YouAreMyBoro Posted on 15/03/2011 13:55
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Great thread, thanks. It's mad to think we have NO scouts. I'd volunteer to go on the odd away day and as long as I'm allowed in the ground for free and get my petrol paid I'll be happy.

Someone on here must know a sports scientist who can help out every now and then too.

Midosparmo Posted on 15/03/2011 13:57
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Who needed scouts once Keith Lamb had worked out how to use youtube?

skiprat Posted on 15/03/2011 14:04
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Well done VAN, a truly heroic piece of memory work!

There's a lot of it that doesn't surprise me really, but it's nice to actually see someone from the club come out and say it. We all know that it's bad so we don't mind being told the truth at all.

The basic premise of the entire thing is that we've tried and failed on 2 occasions to get back promoted so we are really left in the shyte because those gambles haven't paid off.

There are obviously some ridiculously amateurish things going on at the club, but I don't think you can blame the club for a lot of it as such, the choice of sports scientists for example should come from a manager itself. Sam Allardyces methods won't work for Billy Davies for example, so he won't employ them but we do need other infrastructure in place that should be there regardless of manager, so what if Gordon Strachan doesn't use scouts, you're going to need them at some stage so keep them on and then you're not losing out on valuable data when Strachan IS in charge.

Things for me can only look up from here, I've been saying for a while now that the club and especially the fans need to start looking up, start to look at the positives and get back in the ground. We cannot change the stupid mistakes of the past but we CAN get back behind the club and get us firing up the league.

UTB

shaunb86 Posted on 15/03/2011 14:04
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although you were probably joking youaremyboro that's not a bad shout. surely there must be a budding sports scientist out there who would work at middlesbrough (expenses covered) for a year to build up their cv.

as i have said earlier....surely if the players are getting paid that amount they would buy a heart rate thing themselves.

Libbins Posted on 15/03/2011 14:09
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You should forward this to the club.

junouk Posted on 15/03/2011 14:10
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Best thread I have ever read on FMTTM.

Well done Viv. Thanks you for the repor.

Having just read it I can understand why the club has been in a steady decline. I dont know if it is Gibson cutting his cloth and saving on specialist staff or managers like the 2GS being inept at doing a job in the modern game. No enough heart monitors to go around, loads of injuries this year could well be down to the lack of backroom staff, cost cutting and general mismanagement.

I like the idea Mogga says he needs to build the foundations of the club first and that will mean getting rid of playing staff and bringing in specilists. We are going to have a hard time on the pitch while he sorts out the mess of the past 4 years.

In Mogga we trust.

MarlonD Posted on 15/03/2011 14:11
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"A bit concerning is the mention of the high earners and players not knowing whether to move family down etc - it obviously points to the Scottish contingent and I'd hazard a guess that 5 or the 9 high earners are Thomson, McDonald, McManus, Robson and Boyd whih makes me think that they're all open to offers in the summer ...

PP ... x"

Fcuk me you're wasted on counting bricks, Poirot.

zaphod Posted on 15/03/2011 14:15
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The rebuilding will take a while, but we could get promoted in the process & continue building in the PL. You don't have to be perfect to get promoted, just better than most of the rest.

Humpty Posted on 15/03/2011 14:16
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best bit of PR to come out of the club in years and they didn't even release it [^]

HUMBERRED Posted on 15/03/2011 14:32
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Cheers V-A-N. It tells you a lot about Mowbray as a man[^]

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 15/03/2011 14:33
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Just like you can have overpaid players, you can also have useless scouts and 'sports scientists' who don't find the best players or predict Lita's injury. It's not unreasonable to cut back on these expenses at a time like this.

Midosparmo Posted on 15/03/2011 14:34
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"best bit of PR to come out of the club in years and they didn't even release it"

Its terrible PR in regards to what went on at the club before Mogga came in.

Though good PR for the future as long as Mogga is able to get the club run in the way he wants. [^]

Holgateoldskool Posted on 15/03/2011 14:45
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Gibbo/Lamb should get Mogga to do all the PR towards the fans.

You never know such honesty and the old "your club needs yo more than ever" might, just might get a few stayaways to consider coming back.

Tall ask? Without doubt.However it would make a change from the Lamb/Gibbo bull that has turned off many a thousand fan.......

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 15:00
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It's not 'bull' that's turned off thousands of fans.

In the same way, the truth spoken by Mowbray will not bring them back.

SidSnot Posted on 15/03/2011 15:04
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Really good read. So refreshing to have a little depth to something coming out of the club. I do hope he hasn't damaged his relationship with Keith Lamb with some of the comments. We need the two of them working really well together.

LeitrimBoro Posted on 15/03/2011 15:33
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Supported the club for nearly 50 years and never read so much info in such a short time.
Thanks to the OP for giving his time up to type.
No scouting system
No sports scientists

It beggers belief.
It truly does.

bill_door Posted on 15/03/2011 15:44
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Thanks for putting that on here Viv.[^]

lelgie10 Posted on 15/03/2011 15:46
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Fairly certain last year Strachan said Robson had moved his family into the area pretty much as soon as he signed and was showing commitmment to the club already, which may discount him from the argument about the players who seem resistant to moving etc.

Spamlad Posted on 15/03/2011 15:58
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Just wanted to add my thanks for typing all this up, Viv. Great post!
Made me respect Mowbray even more.
I wish I could get to the game on Saturday but I am absolutely brassic.
Any kind souls fancy getting me a ticket?

SmogOnTheRhine Posted on 15/03/2011 16:03
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Most informative thing I've read on here in along time.

I suggest Rob starts paying you or you set up a rival board [;)]

simon1 Posted on 15/03/2011 16:12
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I know it's been said several times before but thanks for that Viv [^]

bryan_munich Posted on 15/03/2011 16:19
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Brilliant post, thanks v_a_n[^]. The Mogga bits probably need to be left up top as a permanent message to give people some perspective.

Hopefully someone can read this out
s l o w l y to Bairnie the Dolt.



Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 15/03/2011 17:01
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Brilliant stuff.

Did he mention educating the fans?

Arca
Hoyte
Digard
Emnes
Taylor
Bates
McManus
McDonald
Thomson

That's who I think will be on the most dosh.

He obviously rates Thomson of that pack.

10hickton Posted on 15/03/2011 17:03
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Heart monitors costing between £40 - £60 each and the players havent got one each ! Then get your hands in your pockets you players and buy your own FFS.

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 15/03/2011 17:09
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Just had a thought: v_a_n is denying recording Mogga's answers (electronically that is), whilst at the same time Mogga is not owning up to taking a copy of Celtic's h/d!

centralscrutinizer Posted on 15/03/2011 18:10
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Best thread on here for a long time so ..

HOOF

timetoretire Posted on 15/03/2011 18:12
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Brilliant post VAN - thank you, and I second AttonBoro's opinion "post of the year" without a doubt.[^]

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 18:19
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Dan, what do you mean by that?

I am being honest with everyone on here when I say I didn't record the words of Tony Mowbray. I don't own a tape-recorder, or a dict-a-phone. My mobile isn't very modern and doesn't have the facility to record anything. I made some bullet points and remembered the rest. I don't think it's important in the grand scheme of things but I am being honest with people.

With regards to Tony Mowbray and his database(s); I don't doubt that he wishes he had brought them down to Boro with him. I absolutely believe him when he says he didn't bring them. Like he said himself, are they his property or are they the property of the club? I think he believes they are the property of the club and should be left there for the manager to inherit and build on.

oldsmoggie Posted on 15/03/2011 18:19
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I dont think I've ever been so depressed. The club is truly wrecked.
Who is to blame?
Gibson/Lamb?
Southgate?
Strachan?

Red_Matter Posted on 15/03/2011 18:22
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Absolutely outstanding job, Viv. You'd make a great Copper. [;)] Hope you don't mind but I've amalgamated your posts and re-posted them to share them with Boro fans on a small site that I help manage.

Hope that's ok fella. [^]

Also just in case Rob accidentally deletes it. [8D]

oooooo Posted on 15/03/2011 18:22
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I find it odd that the club would skimp on monitors costing £60 or even sport scientists costing £20/30/40k per year. All in the name of paying kids millions.

Penny-wise, pound-foolish.

captain5 Posted on 15/03/2011 18:22
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Stop being a mischief, Dan.

If you believe the words transferred into electronic form here, then you should believe the ascribed methodology as well.


shikaka Posted on 15/03/2011 18:26
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Another [^]from me to VAN to putting the effort in to share this. Just to echo what others have said its great that we have a bloke in charge who understands that the fans aren't stupid, we can handle being told that the club is in a pretty dire situation and that honesty goes a long way.

For me the most significant bit is when he says that things could get worse before they get better. Very true. The current squad of players are in a relegation fight and the wage bill needs to be heavily reduced in the summer. Any fans who have notions that, once summer comes Mogga will overhaul the squad and we'll be pushing for promotion, need to get real. There is a lot to do in the summer. There was last summer but without the focus on outgoings. I've got every faith that Mogga will bring in the right players but its gonna be over a few years not a few months that he'll have the squad he wants.

Next year objectives would be

1) Try and get a settled side
2) Sort out some of the off the pitch things such as scouting and sports science
3) Have a season not looking at relegation, maybe get into the area of the table where reading and millwall are now

I just hope that next season when we've just been woefully beaten at home 3-0 to barnsley on a miserable Tuesday night that the fans remember that Mogga knows what hes doing and that progress won't happen overnight. Give him as long as he needs and one day I'm sure he'll get us back

MoggasDog Posted on 15/03/2011 18:44
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Top, top post this [^][^]


Ive been using this username for many years - i think before mogga was even a manager - beacuse the man is the only hero ive ever had.

i couldnt think of man id rather see in the job than him. he loves the club like we do. anybody who saw him play for us would never think otherwise.

it is shocking to hear from the horses mouth just how bad the finances are. [sad]

the yoofa cup final was the kiss of death for our club. we thought it was our finest hour but, fuc.king hell, the fall has been incredible.

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 15/03/2011 18:47
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Just a bit of legpulling V_A_N. Ignore my comments.

edinboro Posted on 15/03/2011 19:35
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Everything Mogga has said since he came back fits with what we have seen over the last few years.

What he is saying now is that he has to build it up again. Probably very similar to what Steve M had to do when he took over.

I reckon we have a good chance of promotion next year. It's up to the powers that be now to take advantage of the positivity Mogga is creating and do something to encourage folk to take a punt on Boro next season.

If they can sell a few more season tickets, get a bit more cash into the club, get shot of a few high earners, Mogga should be able to craft a half decent side out of the mess we currently have.

aweeboro Posted on 15/03/2011 19:42
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Viv - thank you - best ever. Mogga has obviously got more about him than the rest of the club put together.

LeeMiller Posted on 15/03/2011 19:48
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Thanks so much for putting this up.

Compelling Reading. Positive about the long term future next season could a bit hairy

1986 Posted on 15/03/2011 19:50
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outstanding read VAN, thanks

not much point adding my two cents as it's already been said in the main, the scout network/sports scientist bits are astounding. i'm gobsmacked we stayed in the PL as long as we did if true.

with regards to the player database, i assume it's competitive intelligence and belongs to the club. i work in marketing and part of my contract was agreeing that any processes, documents, etc belong to the company if i leave and not me. i'm sure this will be the same.

based on the amount of players we need to shift i can see a few seasons in second/third tier, we'll be living on loan players next season but i don't care if mogga is in charge. i want him here 10+ years.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 20:00
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Dan - [:D]

Red_Matter - No worries at all. Like I say, this information is for all of us. The more of us that see it the better. [^]

BOROMAN28 Posted on 15/03/2011 20:10
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Viv you've done us proud fella[^]
Are you the "little lady" that takes notes at the court.lol[:D]

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 15/03/2011 20:23
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For those who are interested, here's what Mogga had to say.

In case anyone did have doubts about whether he was the right choice for us, I suggest you do read it.

He was a legend as a player and I'm sure he delicate that success as a manger for many years to come.

Right, I went along to the Riverside tonight to listen to the man himself speak about our current situation, where we are at the moment and where he thinks he can take us. At the risk of sounding ever-so-slightly sycophantic, the man oozed his usual blend of articulacy, honesty and passion. I'm writing these answers as I remember them so bits and pieces may be a bit sketchy, but hopefully I can get the gist of what he was saying across.

A supporter got the ball rolling by asking; 'Have you ever considered swapping Joe Bennett and Andrew Taylor over down the left?'

Mogga: 'No, not really. Joe Bennett has all the attributes needed to be a top modern-day left-back. If he doesn't go on to play Premier League football with Middlesbrough then I have absolutely no doubts that he will go on to play there with one of the top clubs in the country. I know how many scouts come to our matches and I know who they are coming down to watch. I make sure I know who they're coming to watch. Believe me, they're impressed by Joe Bennett. Stuart Pearce spoke very highly of him after the Portsmouth game on Saturday. I've tried swapping them(Bennett and Taylor) over in training and it doesn't really work. Andrew isn't mobile enough to play left-back, if we play him there then we need to play a player in front of him who will offer him some protection defensively, much like Stewart Downing did when he was here. Downing was very talented on the ball, of course, but we all know he did a good job for the team and offered the team protection. Joe isn't intelligent enough on the football pitch yet to play left-wing. He's better coming from left-back, over-lapping with the winger, where he can get himself into a position to beat a man or put a cross in. Andrew is better in midfield because he allows Joe to get forward, and he is experienced enough to know how to use the ball and the space. Joe Bennett is one I want to keep, of course, but if someone comes in with big money then we have to think about it. His wages aren't a problem for us but he is a player I can see a club paying 6, 7, 8, 9m for in the future.'

Mogga: 'I hope Kris Boyd scores goals for Nottingham Forest because it means they might go up and come back to buy him in the summer. This is not a personal criticism of Kris Boyd but his salary means we can't keep him. He has to go. He's an honest lad and comes in every day, works hard and doesn't complain but he is on too much money for this football club. The same can be said for 6, 7, 8, 9 of our players. The wage-bill must come down. We tried to sell players in January but it was difficult. Billy Davies rang me to say he was looking for a striker last week and I mentioned the goalkeeping position. Paul Smith was on their bench when we drew 1-1 with them. So, Billy wanted a striker and we needed a goalie so we did the deal. I hadn't rang any Championship clubs about a 'keeper because Championship clubs tend not to help each other out, especially if you're struggling. A permanent deal isn't something we have discussed yet because we're not in a position to. It's very much a wait-and-see situation.'

Mogga: 'I don't want to be disrespectful of Gordon Strachan because he has been very successful in the game for a lot longer than I have. He has his way of doing things and I have mine. Is he right or am I right? Who can say for sure? What I do know is that Gordon went for physical players to try and get this football club promoted and it didn't work. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, i've said it before. Gordon was building his team but maybe ran out of time a little bit and couldn't get things finished. There is a distinct lack of balance and pace in the squad. I've said that from the start. I don't doubt that Gordon tried to bring some pace in, in fact didn't he try and sign a winger from Scotland? He went for Craig Conway from Dundee United so he was trying to address the lack of pace but just couldn't get it done in the end. It's all about balance, the balance of the team and where we move the ball, where the players should be standing and at what time they should be there, why they should be there and why they should move into a certain area after they've played the ball. The squad lacking balance and pace doesn't help those things. It makes things harder.'

Mogga: 'I've said it before but the situation is like this. It's like we have a massive bush in the garden. Before I can do anything, before I can start to rebuild, I have to start pruning this bush back. You know, the bush is huge at the moment. Massive. It's blocking out all the light from the window and we can't see anything. I have to take everything back to ground zero before I can turn things around. Kris Boyd leaving is the start of us being able to prune the bush and cut our cloth. Like I say, we have 6, 7, 8, 9 players who earn more than this club can afford to pay. That's not their fault, that's just the way it is and we have to accept that. Decisions were taken with the best of intentions but they haven't worked out. I have to be honest with you because I know you care about this football club as much as I do. We're in a position where we have to move players on, it's as simple as that.'

Mogga: 'The wages are too high. They have to go. It's a lot more difficult than it sounds because i've had conversations with players about our football club wanting to move them on. That impacts on the dressing-room. I've got young men who didn't know if they would be here from one week to the next during January. That impacts hugely on their lives. Do they bring their families down? Do they put their kids into school? Do they change their kids schools? Do they buy a house? Are their agents hawking them around other clubs? Are their agents doing the best for them? These things influence the way we play because some of the players can handle it better than others. When we win, like we did against Derby, the dressing-room is buzzing and they're all delighted. When we lose like we did at Reading then things are said, fingers are pointed, because people aren't sure of their futures and they're frustrated. It's a very difficult situation we're in. This is what we need to address over the summer. It won't be easy because some of the players we need to move on are on very good contracts with two, three years remaining on them. We have to hope other clubs will want to buy our players.'

Mogga: 'Jason Steele will be a top, top goalkeeper. I have no doubts about that at all. None at all. I like my goalkeepers to come and collect the ball, punch the ball and take the pressure of the defenders. I like the goalie to come and clear it away from the danger area. I like players like Pepe Reina, players who come for crosses and command their areas. This is what I want Jason to do. People used to laugh at Bruce Grobbelaar but top manager after top manager kept picking him because he came for crosses and looked after his defence. He looked after his area. This is what me and Pearsy are working on with Jason. We think he can do it and we think we have a top, top goalkeeper on our hands. There was people on the phone in January asking about Jason but he stays with us. Like I say with Joe, if someone offers big, big money then we have to think about it. Maybe the break from the team due to injury will do a little bit of good for Jason because I saw in the local media that he's getting a bit of stick, a bit of pressure, so a few weeks out might help him along. He has been great for me so far, I just want him to come out and command his area. He is so young, we tend to forget his age, so we don't want to be putting pressure on him but I want him to come out and take crosses. If he comes out and misses one then that's my fault, not his. I can take that.'

Mogga: 'There is no scouting system in place at our football club. We don't have a scouting network. It's as simple as that really. We had Gordon McQueen up until a short while ago and he had a couple of personal contacts, that's all, but there is no scouting network to speak of, no. When I was at West Brom we had everything on hard-disk, a whole raft of players, thousands and thousands of players from all over the world all on our database. We knew their attributes. We knew them inside out. If I needed a player then I could consult my, our, database and put a short-list together. When I went to Celtic we had a similar thing. Thousands and thousands of players, from every corner of the globe really, all on hard-disk. When I needed a player I used it. I could make a copy of it, take it home and study it. This doesn't exist at Middlesbrough. We don't have that facility. I don't know why, who was responsible for it, but we don't have anything like that. I know Gordon(Strachan) doesn't use scouts, he uses his contacts. Like I say, he has his way and I have mine. I like to think i'm a modern manager and i'm thorough. It's not me being arrogant but nobody prepares their team, their staff, more thoroughly than I do. Should I have brought a copy of my database down with me when I took the job? Possibly, but then you have to ask; does the database belong to me or the club? So, maybe I should have brought it with me but it's gone now, in the past. I didn't know about the scouting network, or not having one in place, until I took the Boro job.'

Mogga: 'Preparation is everything. I'm thorough. I get out of bed at 6.45am and I go to work, I go to the training ground and I run for 30 minutes to prepare myself for my working day. I'm in all day, every day, really. I don't switch off because I love football. I'm a student of the game. Like tonight, i've taped Norwich v Bristol City and i'll watch it when I go home, i'll be up until 1am because I want to see how they play, how they move the ball, which systems they use. When we lose a game I don't sleep for three days because I can't switch it off. I want to know why we lost, why he played well or didn't play well or didn't do this or that, did our training help or were the tactics off? Could I have prepared them better? This is what i'm thinking about all of the time. It's not just because my family haven't moved up yet, they will do soon, that I spend my days like this. I do it because I love the game and I want to succeed at Middlesbrough Football Club. I want the club to succeed because I know how much it means to the town. When I was a lad it was all about going to the match on a Saturday with our Dad. That's what I want now and it saddens my heart to see the empty seats, all the red seats around the stadium. I'm upset before we even kick-off when we play at home because I can see all the seats and I know what this place can be like when it's full. I came here with West Brom, and as a player with Ipswich, and I felt the force of the fans driving the team on. I want to get that back. That's the aim for me and the chairman. That's not an excuse, by the way, about the atmosphere or empty seats impacting on my players. I understand why crowds have fallen. Ultimately, the team haven't performed. I want the pubs and working men's clubs to be full of people talking about how brilliant Boro were on Saturday, which in turn leads to them bringing a mate who then brings his kids, that's how we get the fans back in here. It's my job to build a team to get the fans back, make them proud and I think I can do it. Actually, I know I can do it. I've done it with West Brom, with Hibs and I could've done it with Celtic but they didn't give me the time. I will do it again for Boro and then, in the long run, we can maybe go out and buy another Ravanelli, or a Ziege, or a Merson, or a Mendieta, let's name them. That's where I want to take this club and I can do it, but it will take time.'


Mogga: 'Look, there is no sports scientist at our club. We don't have one. The training facilities are great but we don't have any specialists in place. The team have to share heart monitors. We have twelve, fourteen, sixteen of them and we share them amongst the group. They cost around £40-60 but we don't have enough for each team member to have one to themselves. That isn't how a modern football club should be. When I took West Brom to Manchester United, Fergie comes looking for me for a chat, that's what he does. He loves the game. He likes to pick the brains of the new coaches and managers, the new talent if you like. We talked for an hour or two, about this player and that player and what have you, and I find out that every member of his squad pretty much has their own individual sports scientist. That's what they do. They have someone to look after their muscles, their coaching, their diet, their sleeping patterns. That's a modern, successful club and that's how it should be. It might mean I have to go to the chairman and say 'I'll go without that player so I can have this treatment, or this scientist or doctor. I'll sell him to pay for it. If he has to go then for the good of the club, and for the good of my players, then he has to go.' I'll happily sell a player to pay for sports science people because that is how you run a football club. You have to think about the bigger picture. Like Leroy, last week, if we had the equipment available then maybe I would've known about his hamstring before it happened. The scientists would've told me about it and we could maybe have taken Leroy off and put Marvin on, instead of taking Scotty off, and we might not lose Leroy. The players are working too hard because of all the injuries in the squad. I can't rotate or freshen things up. The same lads train and play and training is difficult. I have to keep things ticking over with a bit of five-a-side, a bit of tactical stuff, a bit of coaching, because the players are doing too much. I was surprised about the sports science stuff here but that's the way it is. I will put it right because I want this to be a proper club and i'm working on it every single day.'

*edit - He went on to say that he has nicked a sports scientist from the academy. The only specialist at the club as it happens.

Mogga: 'I want us to play football. I want us to be an exciting football team who knock the ball around, pull the opposition around the pitch, excite the fans, score loads of goals and win loads of matches. We don't have the players to do that at the moment and I don't like the way we're playing at the moment but we will get there. It will take time. In this league it's bish-bash-bosh, no time, crunching tackles, fighting. I can understand why the people of Teesside would want to see their players crunching into tackles and fighting for the shirt because I stood on the terraces at Ayresome Park and I know what it means to people. I don't want us to play like that. I want us to play football. I want to outplay the opposition and show them we're a better football team than they are. When we have to fight, we have to fight, of course, but we are a football team. In the dressing-room against Derby at half-time, I said to them; 'what would you do if you're in the street and someone comes up and has a go at you, or your wife or girlfriend? You roll your sleeves up, take your shirt off and go fist-to-fist and you fight.' At the moment, that's where we are. We aren't a football team yet. To be fair to the players, when I have asked them to dig-in, like at Millwall and against Derby, they have. But in the long-term we want to out-football the opposition. We don't have the players to play the kind of football we want to play yet. It is my job to get rid of the players who don't play that way and find players who will. When I see QPR at the top of this league i'm embarrassed for the league, to be honest. They're not a football team. They're a team of men doing men's jobs. We're a team of boys doing men's jobs and that's why we are where we are. I rang Groundsy when he was up at Hibs and he couldn't get in their team. Their highest-earner is on £1,500p/w. He couldn't get a game for them. He said; 'gaffer, i'm a left-back and I want to play left-back.' Jonathan is a left-back and we have to play him in central-defence and tell him to do a man's job because we don't have anyone else. Stephen McManus is a man. I sold him to Middlesbrough from Celtic. We've missed him because he likes to head the ball. Like David Wheater, myself and Pally. Rhys is the same. He's doing a great job for me and I think he is a very, very good player but we're asking him to do a man's job and it's very difficult. We don't have a six-foot-four centre-half to head the ball out. Matty can time a jump but he isn't the biggest. Leroy has to mark their centre-halves when we're defending corners because we don't have the defenders to do it. When teams like Millwall come up here with their big physical players and want to turn it into a fight, we can't do it. The players at the club don't want to play like that and their size doesn't allow them to. We're a small team compared to the rest of the league. I want to get players in who can play the game, whether they be a striker who links it all up like Yakubu, or someone who is good at heading the ball down and around their box, or someone who can sit in midfield, move the ball around and protect the defence while the other midfielder gets forward to score goals and play with the strikers, that's what we want.'

Mogga: 'I had three or four other offers before the Boro job came along. At the time, I was owed a lot of money by Celtic and they weren't prepared to do a deal to allow me to take those jobs so I didn't take them. I thought they were being unfair so I waited. Then the Boro job comes up and I was interested. I spoke with Keith and Steve and we knew we had to do something with Celtic. I personally wrote-off around £350,000 to take the Middlesbrough job. That's not me boasting, it's just the way it is. I wanted to get back to work really. I think my family were getting sick of me and I needed to get back in. When I started out in management the Boro job was so far away it was unbelievable. Boro were getting to FA Cup finals and League Cup finals and had Viduka and Juninho and those type of players. They were an established Premier League club and I was a new, young manager. I thought the Middlesbrough job was something I would have to work towards for a very, very long time and even then you're never sure if you'll get it. Everything has to line-up. The club needed a manager and I was out of work. I decided that I couldn't take the risk of not taking the job because I didn't know if I would ever get the chance to manage the club again. That's the way football is. I knew when I was 22 that I wanted to be a football manager. Bruce Rioch triggered something in me, in my mind, in my thought pattern and I knew I wanted to be a manager.'

Mogga: 'Things might get worse before they get better. The position we find ourselves in means I can't build a team yet because if we put some good performances together and start to win games regularly, bigger clubs than ours, or richer clubs if you like, will come in for my better players and we have to sell. That's the way it is. We have to sell them. It's hard because I want to build an exciting and successful team at Middlesbrough but I have to sell at the same time. I'm going to need time and i'd like to think that Steve will allow me that time. He has been kind to his managers in the past and I think he will do the same for me. I've explained the situation to him. He knows the state the football club is in. He is putting millions and millions into this club to keep it going at the moment and that has to end some time. I read in the Gazette the other day that Bernie thinks Steve has no ambition any more. I think he's wrong. Steve spent around £12m last summer because he wanted this football club to get back into the Premier League. I think Steve will allow me to bring players in but things will be different. When I was at West Brom we had a strict wage-structure. If the club went up then the player's wages were doubled. If they came back down, which they invariably did and may do again this year, then their salary is halved and we start again. That's how you maintain a football club. This club didn't see relegation coming and it has cost a lot. The wage-bill at West Brom, and we won the league title don't forget, is half of what we pay here. It can't go on like that because the stadium is less than half-full on a match-day, the TV money isn't there and the parachute money is going to run out. We need to strip it right back and start again. I want to build the club up again. Listen, the days of a manager coming in and buying the players, taking the coaching sessions, doing the massages, sorting the tactics, those days are long gone. In modern football you build a staff. I want my players to know who to go to if they have a problem. If they're worried about a muscle then they go to the club doctor. If they want more coaching then they go to the coaches and we put some extra sessions on with the youth lads and work on stuff, as a club. I want to build that up because at the moment none of this is in place here. We have a small staff but I will change it and make it stronger, better. So, I say again; you have to be patient because the situation we find ourselves in means we might get worse before we get better. I said earlier about scouts watching our players and I will struggle to hold on to some of them. Rhys Williams is a good player, Joe Bennett, Kevin Thomson, we have five or six very good footballers here but our situation means that I can't build my team around them at the moment. It will take time. Hopefully not too long, but it will take time.'



Pauleta_22 Posted on 15/03/2011 20:48
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Thanks a lot for posting this.
My god what a great honest man Mowbray is, I feel privileged to have a man like that representing the club I love.

But my god, what a bloody mess the clubs in. It really does not fill me with optimism, must be really tough for the players there - first time I've felt any sympathy for them.

Also I don't mean to pick fault at Gibson but shame on his silence when Mowbray is so honest with the fans.

Again cheers

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 15/03/2011 20:59
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I wasn't there as VAN was (apologies if it's all been posted in parts) but had this emailed to me so I thought I'd post it.

I agree with th post about it being great PR; his openness, honesty and transparency is a breath of fresh air.

InMoggaITrust Posted on 15/03/2011 21:01
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According to this, we do have some scouting. Steve Staunton claimed on talksport that he was a boro scout for the midlands under Mowbray. Doesn't this somewhat contradict Moggas statement?


Link: Staunton

Jon77 Posted on 15/03/2011 21:15
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Post of the year so far this [^][^][^][^][^]

Forget all that Ponce XXXXXXe, this is FMTTM at its very very best [^]

Great read and confirms my thoughts that Mowbray is the man for the job.
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ThePrisoner Posted on 15/03/2011 21:21
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So in summary the club is a bankrupt utter shambles. The much vaunted training facilities are just a pile of useless shiny equipment with no-one capable of using it, no scouts, not even a database of players, we have to sell most of the current squad to replace with what? Schoolkids? Over 35's? This is no better than Scunny, Donny or Hartlepool. Sounds lik the club might not make it through the next season or two. You'd have to be a mentalist to renew your season ticket.


Wonder if Gibbo sanctioned this or is Mogga preparing to bail?


Wibble.

Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 15/03/2011 21:33
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I'd actually say if ever there was a reason to renew next season then this is it.

elnino1 Posted on 15/03/2011 21:39
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Info like this needs to be out more in the open to people who don't read this to try and inspire our stay aways to come back.

I go anyway, but if I didn't and I read this I bloody well would come back.

RavsDad Posted on 15/03/2011 21:41
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More thanks viv.

Inspiring, depressing and frightening all at once.

When Hurworth opened we had all these things (latest machinery, sports scientist, specialists, etc). We've continually been told that we have top facilities, but over recent years we've had more and more injuries that seem to take forever to clear up. Players disappearing 'home' for treatment. No bloody wonder!!

No scouting system whatsoever. We are (just) a top 40 club in England and we barely rate a First division setup judging by Mowbrays comments.

None of the Managers have drawn up the players contracts. Let's guess who did. We were assured before relegation that it would not cause financial meltdown. (By the very person who must have known it would, and who had probably cocked up the contracts in the first place.)

Mogga obviously wants to do the job right. But with such a stack of ineptitude at the top does he really have a chance?

ghostfox Posted on 15/03/2011 21:52
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if he's upset at seeing the ground half empty, half the ticket prices.
full stadium, same revenue coming in.

Shaun71 Posted on 15/03/2011 21:54
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Thats not his choice and to be honest, if prices were halved, would that fill the ground. I dont think it would, nowhere near, its more deep seated than that.

Great night last night again listening to his thoughts and aspirations

HolgateCorner Posted on 15/03/2011 21:56
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In terms of having to ship out high earners who were obviously ex premier league wage earners with Boro or brought down from Scotland by Strachan I don't think Mogga has said anything we didn't already know.

I was surprised he hinted at selling on the likes of Rhys williams and Joe Bennett, I hope we don't.

I think the 'worse before it can get better' was just softening us up for a lot of players leaving and no big names coming in to replace.

And people will moan about it, look at when GON and Wheater left and a few on here said it would seal our relegation.

Good bloke though Mowbray, has a clear vision of what he wants to achieve and understands the Boro.

I think he's deliberately lowering expectations though to take the pressure off the club and I think he will have every intention that we will be fighting at the top end of the table next season.




Jon77 Posted on 15/03/2011 21:57
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Mogga obviously wants to do the job right. But with such a stack of ineptitude at the top does he really have a chance?
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Not since Maddren took over in the mid 80's has a new Boro manager faced such a big task of turning the club around.


rob_fmttm Posted on 15/03/2011 21:57
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It should be pointed out that there is still an excellent scouting system in place for the Academy.


ghostfox Posted on 15/03/2011 21:57
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i understand it wouldnt happen the next game, but it would a few games down the line.
not a fix all solution, but the main factor of this club getting back to where we should be is people on seats.


ferrymans Posted on 15/03/2011 21:58
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Absolutely first class read v_a_n [^]

As like most of the other threads, i can only thank you for your time and patience in putting everything into a perfectly edited script.

It also reinforces my believe that Strachan almost single handedly ruined the club and that Mogga has a job and a half on his hands to put right all the wrongs of the past.

But as Mogga says, IT WILL TAKE TIME.

UTB [^]

blindschool Posted on 15/03/2011 22:06
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It makes very sad reading but I am convinced that in Gibson and Mowbray we have the best two people possible to revive the club.

ThePrisoner Posted on 15/03/2011 22:15
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"
Not since Maddren took over in the mid 80's has a new Boro manager faced such a big task of turning the club around."

And remind me how that ended?

There is no S&N or ICI to bail us out this time. Maybe the Thai's will throw us a bone. Doubt it though. Might do if we were in the PL.

Shaun71 Posted on 15/03/2011 22:20
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Why cant we hope to do with other clubs have done ie West Brom like he mentions.

Have we really been spoilt that much that we demand we have a £30m wage bill?

The sooner we start from 'Ground Zero' as the manager puts it, the better

rob_fmttm Posted on 15/03/2011 22:21
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It ended in a comeback to end all comebacks - Maddren's team under Bruce Rioch led on the pitch by captain Mowbray marching onwards and upwards to the top flight.

attonBORO Posted on 15/03/2011 22:23
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after reading this i have NO faith in Mr Steve Gibson......Thank God we have Mr Mowbray, but i fear he will not be here for the long term...

skiprat Posted on 15/03/2011 22:24
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"if he's upset at seeing the ground half empty, half the ticket prices.
full stadium, same revenue coming in."

I can't believe people still believe this rubbish.

Have you not seen the lack of interest we have when people are trying to GIVE AWAY tickets?

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 15/03/2011 22:25
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'Thats not his choice and to be honest, if prices were halved, would that fill the ground. I dont think it would, nowhere near, its more deep seated than that.'

I agree with that Shaun, but I do think when the club makes offers it always follows it with an obstacle. If it's under 18's for a fiver then why not make it just that and extend it to the end of the season.


Shaun71 Posted on 15/03/2011 22:30
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Simple answer, a sizeable amount of season card holders would complain.

Thinking again, arent all U18 season card holders getting in for just over £4 a game anyway?

Robsons_left_boot Posted on 15/03/2011 22:31
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Why are we not saying to the players, invest in a heart rate monitor? What happened to Chris Barnes? He was some top sport scientist from the Uni of Teesside, guess he lost his job!

If we have no sport scientists then no wonder we are having a lot of injuries. The science side of things can work wonders, I forget who it was but I am sure that someone who kept having hamstring injuries was told it was due to the way he slouched when walking.

Football has come a long way, well any sport has and to be succesful, you need the scientific side for things such as biomechanics. No wonder we went to Spain in pre season with some army guys, we had no science guys helping with the fitness regime!

Hopefully with selling some players this summer, we can invest in some good quality championship players and bring in some background staff to help develop us further.


attonBORO Posted on 15/03/2011 22:35
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How maqny golf specialists do they have at Rockcliffe????????

Robsons_left_boot Posted on 15/03/2011 22:36
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Gary O'Neill on his days off from West Ham

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 15/03/2011 22:38
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'Why are we not saying to the players, invest in a heart rate monitor?'

Absolutely. The senior players at least.

HolgateCorner Posted on 15/03/2011 22:40
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maybe Mogga is involved in a bit of a battle behind the scenes to establish the non playing side of the club.

Let's be realistic, if Gibbo believed in all the back room staff then rest assured they would already be in place.

Nothing ever exists or doesn't exist by accident, somebody has taken a decision not to spend money on the non playing staff. In contrast not much has been spared when it comes to paying the players.

Maybe Gibbo, like most entrepreneurs, dislikes what he sees as non-productive overhead staff.

Robsons_left_boot Posted on 15/03/2011 22:41
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How come Keith Lamb still has a job then?

ghostfox Posted on 15/03/2011 22:41
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skiprat, 10 people offering free tickets to one game dosnt have the same impact as a millions pound business offering half price tickets to everyone for many games .
its not rubbish matey, it cant not work unless less people attend because the tickets are cheaper !!!!


Timboi Posted on 15/03/2011 22:45
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I suppose the question is why has the club been allowed to get into this shape?

I'm talking mainly about the infrastructure rather than the wage bill. Much of this stuff isn't expensive and absolutely essential. It's all very well Mogga saying this stuff but if it's not resolved there's only one way for this club to go, regardless of who the manager is.

It is good to know much of this - I'm sure most people have been scratching their heads over the last few years about how thingas have gone down and this gives much insight about the state of the club. Who do we have to petition to fix it?

rob_fmttm Posted on 15/03/2011 22:48
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Remember Tony Mowbray is a self-confessed modern manager with modern methods - Gordon Strachan was a polar opposite but as Mowbray points out has been far more successful in management than him. Gordon does not believe in sports science, heart beat monitors, scientific scouting systems etc.

Mowbray's methods of scouting are very advanced indeed, everything is recorded, indexed, filed on computer from right round the world and followed up. He is meticulous in everything he does and works 7 days a week to achieve success. Even if he wasn't Boro through and through he would be a fantastic appointment by Gibson. The fact he is a Boro fan means we have the chance here to build something and maybe experience THE best era ever at Boro. That is my gut feeling. But we certainly need everyone giving their all to it.

It will be worth it.

juninhosdivingheader Posted on 15/03/2011 22:48
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all very interesting.

I was there and it was a great night, Mowbray passionate, honest and visionary.

But please don't pretend this was from memory. It isn't. As I recall, it's pretty much word from word. You clearly recorded, which if you didn't have permission is pretty poor form, especially as Mowbray said something at the start about being stitched in the past by things he said ending up on message boards.

TeessideCleveland Posted on 15/03/2011 22:49
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'Did anyone else notice how Dave Allen stood over him and watched him like a hawk?'


Does juninhosdivingheader still post on here?

Robsons_left_boot Posted on 15/03/2011 22:50
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Having said that about Science etc, I believe Southgate used prozone, says a lot.

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 15/03/2011 22:53
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Look, i'll say it again. I DID NOT record any part of last night's meeting.

Come to my house and check to see if I own the equipment to do such a thing. I don't. I didn't record anything and if I did then I would have asked permission first. I would also have said in the OP that I recorded it.

Some people have good memories when they need them and last night was one of those times for me. I was in awe of everything that Mowbray said and it resonated to such an extent that when I came home to write it all down, it was easy. You don't have to believe me but that's the way it is.

Pauleta_22 Posted on 15/03/2011 22:56
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The fans deserve to know this stuff, whether he recorded it or not. There are much bigger issues than crying over that insignificant detail.

btw, quick thought. The lack of sports scientists, scouts etc just the last managers fault? Or are these not the first people who would get sacked in times of financial hardship? just a theory.

hamstercheeks Posted on 15/03/2011 23:10
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Great thread FMTTM at it's best.
Reading that makes me proud to have Mogga as our manager.
It's going to be a long road ahead, I think we need to stop the promotion talk for next season and be very patient.
I fear we might not have hit the bottom of the ride just yet.
I am confident however that we have the right manager and he will get it right if we give him time, and lots of it.

foggysfplandiet Posted on 15/03/2011 23:42
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It's no secret that Mogga was not my choice as manager this time, I thought we needed someone with a very long proven success record in the game at present.

Having read Viv's account (and a MILLION THANKS, VIV) I am humbled by Mogga's honesty and his clear vision and, now that Mogga has provided a much clearer picture of our plight, I realise that Mogga was indeed the right man for the job at this time. I stand corrected.

At the same time I am concerned to read that our financial plight is such that we don't have enough £60 heart monitors for all our players, and at a time when we have been paying one of them, Mr. Boyd, ironically a man who does not seem to even have a fecking heart, £30,000 a week.

It's going to be a long slog but Mogga is indeed the man.

foggysfplandiet Posted on 15/03/2011 23:46
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PS: Mogga has said what Steve Gibson should have said weeks ago and Steve needs to realise this. I know this protracted divorce is having a huge effect on Gibson but really he needs to reconnect with the fans. Come on Steve.

Interesting comments about Bernie as well. Hmmm.

Dibzzz Posted on 15/03/2011 23:51
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Superb thread Viv and I'm so happy it's broke two ton.

I would like this thread up in the other box above as a permanent reminder.

So owie Rob man!!!!!!!

skiprat Posted on 16/03/2011 00:03
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Ghostfox, would reducing the season tickets to 200 quid bring back 20 thousand fans? You must have drinking some strong stuff tonight.

Dibzzz Posted on 16/03/2011 00:06
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I want to be part of the MOGGA era!!!!!!

Even though I would anyway [:D]

A blunt message to the stay-aways if there ever was one. [^]

COME ON BORO!!!!!!!!!

fatsuma Posted on 16/03/2011 08:16
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The most inspirational delivery of a thoroughly depressing message!

NO sports science staff, not enough heart monitors?

Crawley Town are better equipped!
[:O]

Mogga's task and challenge is of the same order as his mentor Lord Bruce of Ayresome.

But then, he is a bit special!
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COME ON BORO!

Northwestboro Posted on 16/03/2011 08:38
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Fantastic Post Viv
It's just a shame the club didn't
Do the same, and tell us this
2 years ago.

In Mogga we Trust !

The_same_as_before Posted on 16/03/2011 08:42
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I assume someone had a phone microphone on?

Humpty Posted on 16/03/2011 09:30
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"The fact he is a Boro fan means we have the chance here to build something and maybe experience THE best era ever at Boro. That is my gut feeling."

dream on. we will never experience anything like the golden era we had from 98-06 whilst football is driven by ogliarchs and rich arabs. That bubble needs to burst before we can compete in the top 7 of the premier league on a consistent basis.

Bandy Posted on 16/03/2011 10:23
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despite all the sycophantic clap trap fans still cannot be arsed and want success on a plate. I think i hate our fans even more after this.

captain5 Posted on 16/03/2011 10:27
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One of the best phrases I've heard summing up (some of) our fans was them wanting "Champions League football at Conference prices".

Bandy Posted on 16/03/2011 10:31
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I feel a bit embarassed when players say "the fans are great" when you know they are lying. Our fans are an embarassment. it's times like this when support is required and if that means turning up every week or digging deep for a season ticket then so be it

Humpty Posted on 16/03/2011 10:50
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our away following HAS been great this year. its the stay aways at home who are embarassing.

Bandy Posted on 16/03/2011 10:52
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thats what i am referring to. The 4 or 5 k who are waiting for trophies before they can even be arsed to leave the pub or B and Q with their lass. The away support continues to be superb as always. I have nowt but respect to those that make every game

littledick Posted on 16/03/2011 10:59
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Big hats off to those who go away regular..........I probably go to about 50% of away games these days.

An away game isn't just the price of a match ticket.

Fans have been accustomed now to making a full day of it, or even an overnighter for the longer trips.

Match ticket £25
Travel £25
Beer £25
Grub £25
Bets ???? £10
Misc £25

Not a cheapy anymore, especially for those with mortgages / rent / kids etc etc

Fletch Posted on 16/03/2011 11:09
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Good work that man... [^]

Interesting if a little worrying reading, but well done getting it up here...

Humpty Posted on 16/03/2011 11:09
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Misc. = porn from the service station [^]


ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 16/03/2011 12:53
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Just a couple of Mogga quotes I have to disagree with:

"They have to go. It's a lot more difficult than it sounds because i've had conversations with players about our football club wanting to move them on. That impacts on the dressing-room. I've got young men who didn't know if they would be here from one week to the next during January. That impacts hugely on their lives. Do they bring their families down? Do they put their kids into school? Do they change their kids schools? Do they buy a house? Are their agents hawking them around other clubs? Are their agents doing the best for them? These things influence the way we play because some of the players can handle it better than others. When we win, like we did against Derby, the dressing-room is buzzing and they're all delighted. When we lose like we did at Reading then things are said, fingers are pointed, because people aren't sure of their futures and they're frustrated. It's a very difficult situation we're in."

Not sure I agree with telling players that they have no future at the club, especially as these might be players we're relying upon to get us out of our current situation. In an ideal world, that sort of thing would be left to the end of the season rather than doing it mid-season. Obviously, if the club wants certain players off the wage bill asap, then at least if the player is told, then he can get his agent to alert other clubs as to his availability.

"I can understand why the people of Teesside would want to see their players crunching into tackles and fighting for the shirt because I stood on the terraces at Ayresome Park and I know what it means to people. I don't want us to play like that. I want us to play football. I want to outplay the opposition and show them we're a better football team than they are. When we have to fight, we have to fight, of course, but we are a football team."

I like to see us play the right way, but as Mogga says, us fans like to see players getting stuck in. You need to be able to do both. I hope the last sentence of that quote "When we have to fight, we have to fight, of course, but we are a football team." means that we will be able to dig in when we need to. Souness was a great footballer, but could get stuck in. The team that Mogga captained had the likes of Hamilton, Glover and Mogga himself who could battle.

captain5 Posted on 16/03/2011 13:03
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I think you've at least partly answered both of those.

He did mention the fighting needed in the Derby game, so I think that is part of it.

For the second one, you'd like to think that as a manager he knows which ones to approach and how to approach them and as you say for a lot of them, it's helping them plan for the future. I'd certainly like to think that the higher paid ones who would be moving on would be mature enough to deal with it.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 16/03/2011 13:06
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Players are'nt allowed to get stuck in like they used to in the 1970-80's.

Even if they do, fairly, some fůůking fanny of a player on the receiving end will end up rolling 50 yards down the pitch in mock agony.

Boo.

[V]

Vasily_Rats Posted on 16/03/2011 13:14
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Brilliant stuff Viv. Very many thanks for posting.
Until now, the jury has always been out for me on Mowbray being Boro manager. I was never his biggest fan as a player. Something niggled at me that all the "Mr Middlesbrough" stuff was a little bit contrived and hyped. I preferred the players who quietly got on with it (Hamilton, Ripley..) although as captain and figurehead I understood the need for someone on the pitch to be a focal point..
However, reading his quotes from the other night posted by Viv I am now a believer. Mowbray is truly the man of the people. Absolutely awe-inspiring speech. Riochs persona has obviously had a big influence on him and the style of football Boro played under Rioch is the clearly the model Mowbray wants to follow.

Keep the faith everyone.
The good times will return.


ovy1 Posted on 16/03/2011 13:38
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I said to them; 'what would you do if you're in the street and someone comes up and has a go at you, or your wife or girlfriend? You roll your sleeves up, take your shirt off and go fist-to-fist and you fight.'

Like something Bruce Rioch would say!!

attonBORO Posted on 16/03/2011 13:40
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It's a pity that we couldn't have as many "specialists" at MFC as there are at Rockcliffe.....


Link: Priorities

barrelchestedscotsman Posted on 16/03/2011 14:40
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Breathtaking. I love the fella...always have [LOVE]

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 16/03/2011 18:36
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PTCFT - I think when Mogga has had chance to build his team, we will be a football team. A successful team always needs an uncompromising character or two in there and those would probably come in the shape of a big, tough defender who likes to clear his area and a strong, physical holding-player who can dictate from just in front of the back four. But those players would have to be able to play a bit of football, too. I don't think he wants a team built solely on physicality, he wants a proper football team but there is room for some aggression in there. Also, the aggression can come from our players just dominating the football and rolling the opposition over at a canter. That's what he says he wants to build. Of course there will be times when we have to dig in a bit and grind a result out but that's not the way we'd ever set ourselves up under Mowbray.

About the players who we've been trying to sell, I wouldn't worry too much about them because Mogga will have been as honest with them as he has with us. We're at the wrong-end of the table so any of them that he does move on won't be missed as much as people might initially think. If any of them read any of Mowbray's interviews then they would know, and hopefully understand, the situation we're in and would hopefully be adult enough to know that they have to be moved on. Like a lot of the signings we made last January said when they arrived, it's football and moving clubs is all part of it.

OPEO Posted on 16/03/2011 19:19
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It's hard to take that the players get vast wages then don't invest a wee bit of it in the club. XXXXXX me, as a self employed groundworker I shell out on tools to carry out my trade and I probably pick up less in a year than Boyd gets in a week! Thanks for that insight into Mr Mogga Viv.

aweeboro Posted on 16/03/2011 20:16
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Just on the sports science bit it was clearly reported in the local press a while after relegation that these people were loosing their jobs.

swren Posted on 16/03/2011 21:08
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Barnes (sports scientist) leaves Boro link




Link: Barnes leaves boro (www.mfc.co.uk)

swren Posted on 16/03/2011 21:11
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"Chris Barnes, formerly Head of Sport Science and Fitness Coach at Middlesbrough FC provided an insight into the use of GPS and accelerometry (MEMS) to detail the training load. Providing a temporal template upon which the conditioning coach can more accurately begin to design individual training, Chris provided an overview of his work conducted at Middlesbrough. This included the description of training, hitherto unclassified, and from that detail how position specific profiles could be generated to delineate the required training requirement. More accurate rehabilitation of injured players will be one of the growth areas in which this relatively new technology will begin to impact."


Link:

HolgateCorner Posted on 16/03/2011 21:23
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is viv anderson's nana Tony Mowbray?

Just a thought.

Still don't think there were any big surprises in what Mogga said, as others have said it was common knowledge that the club were cutting back after relegation and rightly so. As Rob said all managers have different styles and emphasis, you can imagine Strachan being traditional and old fashioned whereas Tony is clearly modern. And at the end of the day would you rather have a nice ferrari garage or Ravanelli training on the dog crap?

You can't argue with Mogga's vision and hopes for the team and club though and I tend to agree with Rob we could be in for a very special era with him with or without this disgraceful set of stay away fans we currently have.


ThePrisoner Posted on 16/03/2011 21:31
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After mulling it over I think Gibbo has deliberately let Mogga reveal the full horror of the situation to take some of the pressure off himself when he puts his head above the parapet when he comes on Radio Brownlee, as he must do soon, to try to sell STs.

Can't but think we are closer to melt-down than a Japanese nuclear reactor.

PRIORYMAN Posted on 16/03/2011 22:00
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The term "Top Man" was made for Tony Mowbray.

Time for everyone to get behind him and the club.


boro74 Posted on 16/03/2011 22:07
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Thankyou.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 16/03/2011 22:15
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"A successful team always needs an uncompromising character or two in there and those would probably come in the shape of a big, tough defender who likes to clear his area and a strong, physical holding-player who can dictate from just in front of the back four. But those players would have to be able to play a bit of football, too."

That would do for me. Like the rest of us, I can remember how Southgate wanted us to play dicky-dance football, but that we were a soft touch. Part of me was worried that Mogga's statement was suggesting that the physical side of the game might be neglected. I think my worries might be a bit unfounded and that he doesn't want us to be like Bolton (when Allardyce and Megson were in charge) or Stoke.

As for the players that have been told that the club have to move them on, I'd hope that we see good performances from them in the next two months for the following reasons:

1. They want to finish their Boro career on a bit of a high with some good performances.

2. They'll be thinking they're in the shop window, so will want to impress other clubs' managers that may be watching them.

Anyhow, did anyone ask the all important question:

Tony, if YOU were on a rocket ship to the moon, who would you want alongside you?

Derby_Red Posted on 16/03/2011 22:37
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thanks viv for posting the thread

ThePrisoner Posted on 16/03/2011 22:42
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"Tony, if YOU were on a rocket ship to the moon, who would you want alongside you?"

No-one. They've all been sold [:D]

Nero Posted on 16/03/2011 22:49
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I distinctly remember Southgate mentioning wanting to put together a detailed scouting network in place. That was during his first season I think.

To me, what Mowbray says on the subject implies that Strachan probably disbanded the full system.

Not that Southgate's was that good mind. Digard and Emnes were the result of it.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 16/03/2011 22:49
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[:D]

I think I might ask this next time he does one of these session, cue groans from the rest of the audience of "There's always one!".

Alphageek Posted on 16/03/2011 22:51
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Thanks for posting this Viv [^]

Molehusband Posted on 17/03/2011 00:34
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My bet is that when Southgate cleared his desk he booted anything useful into touch.

petedreadnought Posted on 17/03/2011 08:06
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Good read that, viv! Another thanks. [^]

Buddy Posted on 17/03/2011 08:47
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Top work viv, really appreciated.

And if you have genuinely memorised that - and I have no reason to doubt it other than the level of detail - then you need to have your brain scanned to find out how it compares to the folks who have donkey's years to remember pi to 875 million places.

stevie-g888 Posted on 17/03/2011 08:55
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What's pi[?]
[;)]

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 17/03/2011 13:06
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Cheeky hoof for anyone who may not have seen it...

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 17/03/2011 21:10
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Bob Huth.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 17/03/2011 21:19
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Top banana Viv. (didn't Mrs Barmby say that as well?)

Ta. [^]

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 18/03/2011 13:09
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One final push for the top...

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 18/03/2011 17:44
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Can we 'pin it' to the top of the board so I don't have to keep hoofing it?

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 18/03/2011 22:07
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TeessideCleveland Posted on 18/03/2011 23:35
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No [8)]

JimmyFloydPiggybank Posted on 19/03/2011 08:01
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Very good[^]

Agree about QPR just a very physical team, who will struggle in the PM.


zorro_mfc Posted on 19/03/2011 10:29
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As others have said thanks for the post, as someone who was delighted that mogga took the job ( still don't know how any boro fan could be unconvinced with mogga as a player or find his passion for his home town "niggling" but hey ho) I am not suprised by how passionate he has come across in that meeting, as this is his club.

Now for my view first after reading that open frank and honest look at the state of the club my heart sank as here we have a man with real vision ( not sound bytes like southgate or condescending put down. Like strachan) real passion who could take this club to new heights snd yet he has inherited at a time when almost all of his plans are beyond our reach. I said at the time we should have gone for him before employing a current player, as I think under him we could have worked wonders.

This is sadly not the case and the reality is a lot blesker but hopefully gibbo can give mogga some of the resources to help make this vision a reality. As I have no doubt if gibbo does show the same faith he gave thr other inept incumbents then mogga will more than pay it back.

As for the financial revelations I don't think any of us cab grasp how bad it is and those days in Rome and Eindhoven where we were one game away from
playing barca in Monaco in the european super cup.

In mogga we trust

sasboro1 Posted on 21/04/2011 12:32
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anychance of one of these being done with gibson?

viv_andersons_nana Posted on 21/04/2011 12:38
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If he attends a Suppoter's Club meeting then it's a goer, sas. Unfortunately he tends not to speak at Supporter's Club meetings(as far as I know) and prefers to speak in the local media.

I've tried to get interviews with him in the past, and will again in future, but it's very difficult.

centralscrutinizer Posted on 21/04/2011 12:40
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I think he has gone along to the odd meeting in the past, but I wouldn't think you'd get the depth and fully open replies like Mogga gives.

woodymfc Posted on 21/04/2011 12:51
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It makes me proud to have such a man in Mogga as our manager [^]

Brilliant stuff VAN, does anyone know who Moggas favourite all time Boro player was ?

vuvuzelas Posted on 22/04/2011 01:20
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Excellent thread viv.

The reasons for not having enough heart rate monitors cant be financial reasons.
20 heart rate monitors at 50 quid a pop is a drop in the ocean in this industry. Even a couple of specialists on 40/50K is next to nothing for a modern day club of our size.

Buddy Posted on 24/04/2011 09:16
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Just re-reading this, there was an interesting point made further up the thread about Mowbray feeling "stitched" by comments made ending up on messageboards.

I wonder if that reveals an interesting attitude from the man himself (or, as I've said before, football in general), that somehow something said in a club capacity without formal media presence is different to something said "in public"? Do Boro fans who can attend meetings on a weekday evening have a greater right to know stuff than those who can't?

captain5 Posted on 24/04/2011 09:18
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As I understand it it was only a small part of conflict that he was having with the board there.

Some of his words there were seen as not being 'on message'.