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kingcreole Posted on 28/02/2011 20:46
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Massive Oasis fan and never expected much from this but it's easily album of the year. Full of great tunes with Liam back to his best on the vocals. Better than the last two Oasis albums. [^]

charjamol64 Posted on 28/02/2011 21:28
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Thought the last Oasis albums was there best for years.

parmoandstella Posted on 28/02/2011 23:05
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again, massive oasis fan, loving this album

Stellify Posted on 28/02/2011 23:10
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Got it about an hour ago. Decent Album but still prefer his/there older stuff.

The Roller is brilliant though.

colinmilk Posted on 01/03/2011 00:17
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heard one of the tracks today and thought it was Gibert o'sullivan.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 01/03/2011 00:24
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Very average, I was hoping they'd find some new material instead of regurgitating the same old guff they had since they had their early success in Oasis.

tees_tripper Posted on 01/03/2011 05:51
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Heard snippets, sounds like diluted Beatles stuff again, will probably end up buying it tho. Hopefully Noel will try something a bit more fresh sounding on his solo album

The_Duke Posted on 01/03/2011 07:52
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Heard a few tracks & sounds decent. Wasn't expecting much from it but pleasantly suprised. Lets be fair there stil playin rock n roll & liams voice is still at the forefront of it all so there'll always sound like oasis unless they start singing nursery rhymes. Not been an oasis fan for a few yrs, they were tired and too busy in fighting but what I've heard from this album sounds promising.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 07:56
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its excellent very Heavy Stereo in places and infact some of it does sound like early Oasis pre albums and singles, maybe thats because Liam is writing the songs like he did at the start of Oasis

backofthenet Posted on 01/03/2011 07:59
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Millionaire is quality

Adi_Dem Posted on 01/03/2011 09:08
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It always puzzles me when people say they want something fresh from Oasis and now Beady Eye.

Essentially, they are guitar based bands with one of the most iconic vocals of modern times. They are never going to be anything other than they are, and that will suit some people and not others.

It's not a re-hash of old material or diluted Beatles, it's just rock and roll music. And decent music at that.

I loved the last two Oasis albums and this isn't as good as those but it is certainly worth a listen and a very pleasant surprise given that I wasn't expecting much. Some really good, stand out tracks. Some duffers of course but overall a good listen.

HelmutSchmutz Posted on 01/03/2011 09:09
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Heard the new single, utter utter gash, worst lyrics I've ever heard. I'm not buying it because there's far better and more original stuff around at the minute.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 09:29
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'Very average, I was hoping they'd find some new material instead of regurgitating the same old guff they had since they had their early success in Oasis.'

when you say THEY you simply mean Liam Gallagher?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 13:47
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Four Letter Word is the best opening track on an album ever.

For Anyone sounds like Oasis ??? is you mental?

Best album of the last 10 years Fact!

Adi_Dem Posted on 01/03/2011 13:55
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Steady on there Raz. The first track is Ok. The album is OK. I can't agree with you at all in going any further than that and I am a massive Oasis fan!!

Try Abbey Road, Revolver, Exile on Main Street, Let It Bleed, Definitely Maybe (!!), Highway 61 Revisited, nevermind, Let's Get It On, Purple Haze and many, many others!!

LTS_3 Posted on 01/03/2011 13:58
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Don't know why everyone from Oasis didn't just wrap in and watch the royalties roll in.

This sh1te hasn't even had any airplay on radio or tv anywhere has it, I have certainly never seen anything except for their first single which got absolutely hammered for its pathetic lyrics/rhyming

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 14:03
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as an Oasis fan i can admit this is nothing like Oasis... i can see why you feel let down, i feel sorry for you.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 14:04
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LTS_3 aye about 4 tracks have been released in one fashion or another... album of the week on radio 2, seems to have had a lot of air play on radio 2.

The video for Four Letter Word is quality...

LTS_3 Posted on 01/03/2011 14:06
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I was an Oasis fan, saw them at Reebok Stadium, Metro Arena and Eastlands

Toward the end they were nowhere near as good as when I saw them at Reebok in about 2000ish

Now I'm 30 I just think Liam and Noel are tw@ts to be honest, and there can't be a sorrier sight than people walking round the town still trying to look like Liam

Boro_Brick_Road Posted on 01/03/2011 14:09
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I downloaded it last night from Amazon for £3.99 [^]

Didn't get chance to listen to it on the way to work this morning, but the snippets I've heard sound good

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 14:12
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aye they were good at bolton in 2000, was a decent gig.

they have had Dont Believe The Truth as the only good album since then, but that was mainly down to Noel, Oasis was his band.

parmoboy Posted on 01/03/2011 14:14
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Anyone been watching their live performances at Abbey road? This one proves how much editing must go on Liams voice in the studio.......


Link: Bring the light

Adi_Dem Posted on 01/03/2011 14:35
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Watch them in session at Radio One and you'll see how good his voice actually is!!

RenzoRosso Posted on 01/03/2011 14:38
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you'd think that by his time of life he'd be able to come up with at least one interesting thought provoking lyric, but no same old nothing from Liam. I think Gok Wan puts it Best Liam Gallagher: "Its all about the confidence".

Adi_Dem Posted on 01/03/2011 14:45
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It's rock and roll music, not some work of literary art!!

john_parrott Posted on 01/03/2011 14:48
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Absolutely dreadful. A lad I know put one of their songs on Facebook proclaiming as the best thing since sliced music. Naturally, I had a listen and what I heard was an abomination - it sounded like a crap version of The Kinks crossed with an even worse version of The Beatles.

Anybody who likes this band needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.

Adi_Dem Posted on 01/03/2011 14:49
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Interesting approach to music that. Still, each to their own.

Boromart Posted on 01/03/2011 14:55
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rock and roll doesn't have to be dumb though particularly if someone in or approaching there 40s is writting it.

Adi_Dem Posted on 01/03/2011 14:57
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It being 'dumb' is a mtter of opinion. Some of the best ever rock and roll songs are 'dumb'. I don't find the lyrics too bad at all.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 14:58
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funny how people comment on an album they havent yet heard.

seems to be a common trend on this board people commenting on things they dont fully know yet.

Boromart Posted on 01/03/2011 14:59
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true, but personally I feel the best bands and artists are able to grow, learn, improve and show intelligence in their lyrics.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 15:00
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Boromart have you heard the album?


flaps Posted on 01/03/2011 15:02
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Rubbish music for people with bad taste.

john_parrott Posted on 01/03/2011 15:03
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Why don't you lot listen to some proper music? Oasis belong in 1995. Leave them there.

john_parrott Posted on 01/03/2011 15:06
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I just listening to that "Bring The Light" song there. I half expected Jerry Lee Lewis to burst out and start singing "Great Balls of Fire".

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 15:07
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this isnt Oasis you nob.. sounds nothing like them.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 01/03/2011 15:08
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so you think that "Bring The Light" doesnt sound like Oasis?

john_parrott Posted on 01/03/2011 15:09
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Bring The Light sounds like Jerry Lee Lewis - Great Balls Of Fire.

Liam Gallagher is Oasis. Oasis is Liam Gallagher. They both belong in the mid 90s.

KobeB Posted on 01/03/2011 15:12
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There were a few b-sides and the occassional album track done by other members of Oasis that i liked the sound of. It sounded fresh.

These weren't done by Noel (who i'm a big fan of but Oasis was his band when it came to writing tunes) and this album shows that they were screaming to be allowed to get a little more creative.

I really like it. Sure beats the likes of Nelly and tynchy Strider and all that gash that is out now.

KobeB Posted on 01/03/2011 15:14
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BoroMart:

Do you mean bands like Coldplay and Radiohead?

Big Pharma could release them as a sleeping pill drug - save them a fortune and probably work better [:D]

Adi_Dem Posted on 01/03/2011 15:34
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Bring the Light is rubbish in my opinion. if that's what you're using to judge the entire album then don't!!

I didn't realise that listening to this precluded anyone from listening to other music.

Never mind.

footyteam Posted on 01/03/2011 18:01
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Used to be a big oasis fan
Their last album was really good, this however, is quite utter shocking, truly expected more.

kingcreole Posted on 01/03/2011 23:17
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Why has this thread turned into a discussion about Oasis? This is Beady Eye a completely new band!

Did everyone start slagging off The Beatles in the 70's because Wings were gash!? Methinks not.

I defy anyone to find a better current rock and roll song than 'Three Ring Circus'.


Link: Brilliant

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 00:01
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"Why has this thread turned into a discussion about Oasis? This is Beady Eye a completely new band!"

If by "completely new" you mean the same band minus it's only talented memeber then yes it's a completely new band.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 07:19
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rimmer half made the point their to back you up, minus the songwriter of Oasis it seems to be hard for some to understand why this band might be so different.

bless them.

GGGG Posted on 02/03/2011 07:53
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I think its an orite album, nothing spectacular and not bad either.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 08:05
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GGGG maybe its just that it'll grow on you. I remember thinking that about Morning Glory and then it just got better and better... Remember thinking Wonderwall was an album filler, and then it became amazing.

Lyrically some of the songs point direct references to the break up of Oasis and thats been really well done.

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 08:12
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They also sound just like oasis. The roller is an oasis cast off.

Why did they bother changing their name if they weren't going to change direction.

If the two singles are the best the album has to offer then the remainder must be pretty bad.


Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 08:14
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to be fair you havent heard the album and The Roller sounds more like anything Heavy Stereo ever did than Oasis, so blame Gem Archer for that.

'If the two singles are the best the album has to offer then the remainder must be pretty bad'

they arent... to be fair.

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 08:17
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"seems to be a common trend on this board people commenting on things they dont fully know yet."

That's a gem from you razmond. I can only assume you are being ironic?

You have plenty of over jerk stuff to say about the boro when you've been to a handful of games in your life the last one being about a decade ago.

Brilliant.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 08:19
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so you have just backed up my comment... well done.

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 08:28
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By using your example to point out the irony of your statement?

Or were you including yourself when you said that?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 08:32
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i simply said it was a common trend on the board.

you chose to help back that up in your own certain way.

thanks [:X]

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 08:35
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At least you know you're clueless. We're starting to get somewhere.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 08:36
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i dont think you fully understand what 'common trend' means [^]

Adi_Dem Posted on 02/03/2011 09:06
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Did anyone expect it not to sound like Oasis? It really puzzles me, this notion that somehow Oasis deserved criticism for not providing anything 'new' and now Beady Eye for sounding like Oasis.

Liam has one of the most distintive and instantly recognisable voices in modern music history and both Oasis and Beady Eye are guitar based bands.

What do people expect? Jazz infused indy dance?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 09:13
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i think the album doesnt sound anything like an Oasis album. Even his vocal on some tracks are totally different.

The producer who produced the La's album has certainly helped the mood of the album.

Adi_Dem Posted on 02/03/2011 09:29
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You're right, it's not as good as an Oasis album but to say that it doesn't sound anything like Oasis is just incorrect in my view.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 09:34
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you get me wrong, i am not comparing the quality because if i was i would say its better than anything oasis have done post morning glory.

Some tracks sound more like the La's... Millionaire for example sounds nothing like anything Oasis have done, doesnt have the set verse chorus verse chorus that Noel tended to put into his music.

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 09:47
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just to stick mine in again, earlier i said the Lyrics weren't interesting and that I found this dissapointingly predictable from Liam. What I refered to was the few examples of songs which Liam has written previously, Songbird and I'm otta time spring to mind, which are just inane.

Ok the tune is catchy and they're well produced but I cringe at the delivery of lines he's lifted from countless other less noted artists Eg "gotta keep on Keeping on" If some x factor boyband nonse sung that i'd not be bothered as i'd expect nothing more and I'd not actually be listening anyway but when Liam Gallagher sings it I cant help dieing a bit inside.

Perhaps the problem is my age, I've grown up listening to Oasis and to a degree Oasis's IE Noel's lyrics have matured along the way but Liam's havent and I shouldnt be surprised because he has clearly not changed from that oily mouthy manc brat that first caught my imagination in 1994 with definitly maybe.

I was a big fan of oasis but liam's turned into a national embarassment so my appretiation of their music is certainly tarnished, I dont doubt that they still appeal to some and this is just my take on the songs i've heard from beady eye.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 09:58
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RenzoRosso are you talking about Oasis or the new Beady Eye Album?


Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 10:00
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When The Smokin' Mojo Filters got together no one said 'oh its just the jam' etc.

to be fair

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 10:05
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i thought the line 'Then make the bed
with sheets of glass' was quite thought provoking from the track 'Wind Up Dream'

The track Four Letter Word is a clear reference to the falling out with Noel and the split of the band ...

'I donít know what it is Iím feeling

A four letter word really getís my meaning

Nothing ever lasts forever' .... The Anti-Live Forever ?

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 10:45
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Razmond.

Do you work for their record company? You seem to have spent a lot of time trying to convince people that this album isn't regurgitating the tired format of oasis.

It sells records so fair play to him. They found a formula that appealed to the masses and makes money. Cowell does something similar.

But let's put to bed the idea he is some credible creative artist. He can barely string a sentence together.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 10:46
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arnold_judas_rimmer have you heard this album the thread is about?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 10:56
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Talking about both really, however to clarify Noel Gallagher has written some good songs with interesting lyrics and to a degree his songs matured as he has. I feel personally that Liam gallagher is an immature ape who's songs aren't even close, artistically speaking to his brothers first songs even though he has 15+ years of experiance to now draw.

I also have no doubt that Liam gallagher truely beleives he is breaking new ground both in terms of his song writing and the sound of Beady Eye. I certainly dont have any quarms wioth those who like it, its just not for me.

i stand by what i said re Liam being a national embarassment.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 11:05
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Who do you think writes the songs on the Beady Eye album?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 11:07
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well either Liam or someone who hasn't got much interesting to say, is it not Liam?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 11:12
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you dont know.

lets leave it at that. And let you have your Liam Gallagher rant.

Adi_Dem Posted on 02/03/2011 11:16
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It's hardly a rant Raz!!!

he has an opinion on Liam Gallagher and his music that differs from yours, and mine too for that matter, but he is entitled to hold that view and I cannot stand anyone criticising someone else for their taste in music.

Instead of trying to be clever with him I suggest you just discuss it like an adult!!!!!

The songwriting credits on the album Renzo are given to all 4 members of the band. However, it is clear and has been acknowledged that there are Liam's songs, Gem's songs and Andy's songs on there. it's what most songwriting teams do - every non-Harrison/Starr Beatles song was credited to Lennon/McCartney, most by around 1965 were written individually.

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 11:17
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Thats a really strange thing to say, are you personally upset by my "liam gallagher rant"?

we can continue the discussion if you like but if you've had enough/cant think of anythign else to add thats fine.

Like I said I was an Oasis fan so I think its ok for me to hold stong opinions about this stuff.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 11:26
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i agree... although as it was a liam gallagher rant and nothing clearly to do with the new album, let him get on with it.

who said they have wrote their own songs? Liam said in Q mag that it was all jointly done

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 11:28
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Raz sounds like one of those lads who has based his image on liam. There were plenty of tragic cases like that who had the hair, clothes, strutting and the old indie hat. That's maybe why he is taking any criticism of liam so badly.

Bless him.

Most lads grew out of it but judging by his defence of the liam it sounds like he still styles himself on him. Thinking he looks "cool" [:D]

At the end of the day music us about taste. Some people are into generic middle of the road pop based guitar stuff. That's how oasis made their money.


Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 11:29
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ren of course you can but i do not see what it has to do with the new Beady Eye album.

some of liams Oasis stuff wasnt that great, but i really like this new album.

I have no idea who exactly wrote what on the new album but if you think they have nothing to say then i guess thats your opinion.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 11:31
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how did you get my fashion sense out of that?

i have a beard and am proper proud of it he hasnt had one since June 1995... lol

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 12:44
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You dont see what it has to do wiht the new Beady Eye album?

eh? I said I'm very disapointed by it and then explained why, mainly that Liam's Lyrics aren't very good, I stand cortrected that the lyrics are his work alone but I'm no less dissapointed by this revelation.

In what way could this not be about the Beady Eye album?

In a perfect World liam woudl have been able to keep a lid on it and stayed in Oasis while Noel developed his music for many years to come. My younger self would be ashamed to hear that I now consider Damon Alburn far superior and hold in higher estheme. Itr even hurts a bit to type that thinking back to that Oasis gig at the Arena all those years ago. Still Ocean Colour Scene are still going....

Vasily_Rats Posted on 02/03/2011 13:10
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I thought "bring the light" was reminiscent of that old song Sid Vicious covered...."Something else".

In any case, Beady Eye is purely a marketing tool for Liams clothes shop [;)]

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 02/03/2011 13:14
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Its "alright".

6/10, heard worse heard better.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 13:16
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Ren

'just to stick mine in again, earlier i said the Lyrics weren't interesting and that I found this dissapointingly predictable from Liam. What I refered to was the few examples of songs which Liam has written previously, Songbird and I'm otta time spring to mind, which are just inane.

Ok the tune is catchy and they're well produced but I cringe at the delivery of lines he's lifted from countless other less noted artists Eg "gotta keep on Keeping on" If some x factor boyband nonse sung that i'd not be bothered as i'd expect nothing more and I'd not actually be listening anyway but when Liam Gallagher sings it I cant help dieing a bit inside.

Perhaps the problem is my age, I've grown up listening to Oasis and to a degree Oasis's IE Noel's lyrics have matured along the way but Liam's havent and I shouldnt be surprised because he has clearly not changed from that oily mouthy manc brat that first caught my imagination in 1994 with definitly maybe.
'


what part of that was to do with the new material from the beady eye album?

this line for example 'What I refered to was the few examples of songs which Liam has written previously, Songbird and I'm otta time spring to mind,'

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 13:38
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Raz I meant the Lyrics on the Beady Eye album were the same as other songs Liam has penned in the past, such as songbird and I'm outta time. Sorry if that wasnt clear.

Its all to do with beady Eye in terms on context anyway. I didnt have great expectations for the album based on Liams past efforts.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 13:39
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oh ok what did you think of WigWam?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 13:43
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Are you serious?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 13:46
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yes.

why?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 13:54
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well, we've had an ongoing dialogue for quite some time now and you appear from that question not to have been paying attention to what I've said.

maybe I could write anything and it would have litteraly no effect on your response?



I'll take it as an insult!

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 13:59
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we have and you said you didnt rate liams lyrics on the beady eye album.

I was just asking what you thought of one track on it, which is my favourite at the moment.

sorry if that came across as an insult.

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 14:00
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The chips are down you're in again
win or lose, you feel the same
another bottle in your hand
you're sick of life and it's demands
you've taken off in the night
you're coming in when it's light
you make it up to the wife
you say you're wrong when it's right

Sha la la la la la la la
sha la la la la la la la

You think you've got me all worked out
I'll see you off you and your crowd
another bottle takes a man
you're sick of life and its demands

Sha la la la la la la la
sha la la la la la la la
sha la la la la la la la
sha la la la la la la la

come with me
where I can see way beyond the stars
so my friends, what's it to be?
open up your arms

I'm comin' up
I'm comin' uuuup
I'm comin' up (x3)
I'm comin' uuuup (yeah you've been coming up)
I'm comin' up (x2)

I'm comin' up (comin', comin', comin' up)
I'm comin' up (comin', comin', comin' up)...

buttermyarse Posted on 02/03/2011 14:03
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I like it.Its at least as good as all the Oasis albums apart from the first two in my opinion[^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:04
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right we can all copy them n paste them.

what do you think of WigWam as a song?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 14:06
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its the work of knuckle dragger with issues surrounding women and drink.

Or its just nonsense, to me anyway.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:08
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Ren have you heard the album?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 14:14
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Its ok mate, I just dont like it. I'm not sure if its just the music and lyrics that annoy me or if its more that i can just imagine how great Liam thinks he/it is. The existance of the above conflict I find more irritating than either.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:16
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thats alright.

Ren have you heard the album?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 14:19
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Great now I feel like I'm the butt of a cyber joke to which I'm not privy.

Please say if thats the case.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:20
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no joke.

sorry i wasnt sure if you had heard the album yet.

Ren have you heard the album?

If you have do you have a favourite track?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 14:27
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I have had 1 listen through, but my opinion shoudl not count because I had already decided to hate it before spending 40 mins or so listening to it. I also had my fingers in my ears most of the way through.

buttermyarse Posted on 02/03/2011 14:28
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The Roller=Instant Karma[^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:29
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did you like any of the tracks off it?

i imagine you would if you liked early Oasis

Adi_Dem Posted on 02/03/2011 14:32
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Give over Raz, you're a good example of the type of Oasis fan that most people don't like!!

They're not for everyone, and Beady Eye are what they are, which is Oasis without Noel and are poorer for it.

Some people will like it and some people won't, neither is right, just, for example, as it is only someone's opinion that Oasis were ever generic or middle of the road because for me they certainly weren't, they were the most exciting new band to come out for a generation.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:35
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sorry i was interested to know why someone who hates Liam would go out of their way to listen to his new album.

I dont like Radiohead so i havent bothered with their new album (is it even out yet, if not the last one).

Adi_Dem Posted on 02/03/2011 14:38
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Why wouldn't he?

I don't like a lot of bands but I'll still give new stuff a try, whoever recorded it!

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:41
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Adi where does it say that some songs are gems some are andys and liams?

Liam has said that all songs were created by all the band from what i have read.

I dont understand why no one isnt having a go at Gem and Andys song writing abilities if they think this album is so bad.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:43
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Adi maybe you and i differ, for me it can sometimes take more than one listen to give something a try.

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 14:52
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Maybe liam said that because the ones the others wrote are better?

Funnily enough, I like radiohead but i've not heard the new stuff, weird!

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 14:53
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I dont liek the Chapman Family but I quite like listening to it. Work that out. Also it's very intense to see tham live in a room not much bigger than the riverside bogs with about 12 people in it.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 14:54
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ren you think some of the tracks are better than others then?

do you have a favourite track or is the whole album not very good?

RenzoRosso Posted on 02/03/2011 15:29
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i cant really answer that without giving it a propper listen, and I dont think I will.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 02/03/2011 15:29
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thats ok that answer explains a lot

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 16:22
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Raz. This thread embarrasses you.

Would you nosh liam off?

Adi_Dem Posted on 02/03/2011 17:10
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See link Raz.

Liam, did you write the lyrics for this record?

Gallagher: No, I didn't, mate. I wish I did. I wrote the lyrics for the songs I composed, but Andy writes the lyrics for his songs, Gem writes the lyrics for his, I sort of write mine.


Link: Rolling Stone

kingcreole Posted on 02/03/2011 19:48
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Does that link not prove Raz right though? He said the album was co wrote between Andy Bell, Gem and Liam together as a band not just by Liam. That quote confirms this.

What I don't get is people slagged off Oasis for sounding like The Beatles but now people are slagging off Beady Eye for sounding like Oasis. What's all that about?

YouDoyle! Posted on 02/03/2011 20:03
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carnt belive this has got a ton
personally i thought it was XXXXXXe but got it to have a listen
was exactly what i thought it would be
wont listen to it again
each to there own

MikeyH Posted on 02/03/2011 21:11
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I've had a good few listens and this is a good solid album. Two or three songs are brilliant (Wigwam, The Beat Goes On, Four Letter Word) and two or three are a bit dull and a lacking something (Bring the Light, Three Ring Circus, Beatles and Stones).

It deserves a nod of a approval from anyone who likes this sort of music and is worthy of a listen from anyone else interested in good, well crafted songs. Those who criticise because it's Liam Gallagher are sad.

Should be great live.

arnold_judas_rimmer Posted on 02/03/2011 21:15
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"What I don't get is people slagged off Oasis for sounding like The Beatles"

Trying to and failing.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 08:14
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Adi

'but we ended up sharing all the songwriting. Working on the arrangements together, producing the records together, deciding on the sleeves together, the videos and really keeping our hands in a democracy.
'

if you are telling me they seperatly came up with lyrics that sounds errr normal doesnt it?? Would be a bit odd to have 1 band member doing one line of lyrics and another doing another line. That is a very rare thing, i think The Beatles did it once on Day In The Life.

However as far as songwriting goes they were all shared compositions.

Adi_Dem Posted on 03/03/2011 09:24
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I said the following:

The songwriting credits on the album Renzo are given to all 4 members of the band. However, it is clear and has been acknowledged that there are Liam's songs, Gem's songs and Andy's songs on there. it's what most songwriting teams do - every non-Harrison/Starr Beatles song was credited to Lennon/McCartney, most by around 1965 were written individually.

There is nothing in that article that contradicts that. Arrangements, producing, sleeves, videos - I am sure they all contribute to that but that isn't songwriting. The songs are credited to all four members but what they aren't doing is sitting as a foursome and jointly writing songs. At their core the songs are written by the individual and then developed by the band.

Lennon and McCartney genuinely wrote a lot of their earlier stuff together. That became less and less and even A Day in the Life wasn't really 'written' together in that sense. John had the main body of the song (I read the news today etc) but needed a bridge or middle 8 (it ended up being a lot more than a middle 8 in that song) and Paul had this song he was working on (Woke up, fell out of bed etc) and they just somehow fit. For me that song represents Lennon/McCartney at the peak of their powers but even that wasn't the pair of them sitting down and writing a song together but rather the two of them putting two of their ideas together. It's subtle, but there is a difference.

Beady Eye songs are not written by four people. they are written individually and developed by the collective.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 09:30
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'but we ended up sharing all the songwriting'

Adi_Dem Posted on 03/03/2011 09:35
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Read my post again Raz, you'll get it eventually.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 09:38
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'Arrangements, producing, sleeves, videos - I am sure they all contribute to that but that isn't songwriting'


how do you know they did it individually not collectivelly?

Adi_Dem Posted on 03/03/2011 10:10
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Because Liam says so.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 10:26
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'Liam, did you write the lyrics for this record?

Gallagher: No, I didn't, mate. I wish I did. I wrote the lyrics for the songs I composed, but Andy writes the lyrics for his songs, Gem writes the lyrics for his, I sort of write mine.
'

you dont mean that?

please dont say because liam says they write their own lyrics you think they also write their own songs and that part of the process isnt collective?

Adi_Dem Posted on 03/03/2011 10:33
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Raz, I'm tired of banging my head against a wall in respect of something you clearly don't understand. I've explained the situation, it's up to you whether you accept it or not.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 10:36
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to be fair you dont know the situation.

The collectively write the songs, that has been said. They may singley write the lyrics but the song writing is collective.

simple as that.

Ren didnt like the album and blamed liam for it being so bad, at least you point out the album isnt ALL his fault.

Adi_Dem Posted on 03/03/2011 10:41
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I like the album!!!!

Read the interview in Rolling Stone again. They each wrote the lyrics for their compositions. It can't be any clearer but there is an interview in the Evening Standard that I got the other day that confirms, for example, that Andy wrote Kill for a Dream.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 10:52
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i agreed with the fact they each wrote the lyrics, but the songs are composed collectively as a group.

Which as your point about lots of groups do that.

I know you like the album. You also said when Ren slagged Liam off because the album was so bad, that thats fine too, even though you point out he didnt write all the tracks.

They are all decent song writers that is proven. I was a big fan of Heavy Stereo and you can tell their influence is apparent.

Adi_Dem Posted on 03/03/2011 11:06
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"You also said when Ren slagged Liam off because the album was so bad, that thats fine too, even though you point out he didnt write all the tracks."

I said what?

No, the songs aren't composed as a group. Liam says he did the lyrics for the songs HE composed, Gem did his and Andy did his. The songs are composed by the individual in the band and then developed by the collective.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 11:07
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do you think that the composition of the song is done by the indvidual then i.e. the composing of the music?


Adi_Dem Posted on 03/03/2011 11:31
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At their core, yes. Melody and basic chord structure, absolutely.

I have been in bands and continue to write songs now Raz. I know how it works for me and those interviews make it crystal clear how it works for them.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 11:33
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you've read between the lines [:D]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 11:39
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and i agree with you if what you are saying is that initially the individual will put a rough composition together, and then the band will get together and complete that composition... round it off if you like.

RenzoRosso Posted on 03/03/2011 12:13
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Can you imagine sitting around a table and tying to write lyrics (which was my main Bugbear not "song writing")as a collective? It doesnt work like that, most bands have 1 maybe 2 guys who come up with the lyrics maybe in rough draft format which can be tweeked with suggestions from others but it would be impossible for 4-5 guys to write a song and each add an equal amount to the lyrics.

It woudl be interesting to know if they write the lyrics first or the music, in most cases that I've read the music comes first. Elbow are a notable exeption where Guy Garvey writes the lyrics and then when they get together the music is worked on as a group. Its much easyier to write music as a collective because you each have an instrument with whihc to participate.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 13:00
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Ren I imagine also you would be interested to know who writes what lyrics so you dont have to just aim all your insults at Liam.

I reckon The Roller was done by Gem Archer as it is very Heavy Stereo.

footyteam Posted on 03/03/2011 13:05
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"to be fair you havent heard the album and The Roller sounds more like anything Heavy Stereo ever did than Oasis, so blame Gem Archer for that."

the roller was written for oasis and never used coz its XXXXXXe

RenzoRosso Posted on 03/03/2011 14:29
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Raz, you sound a bit mad mate.

How old were you when you first got into Oasis? out of interest I know its nowt to do wiht Beady. And WHich album did you first listen to (Of Oasis's)


Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 14:34
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i was 13 or 14 and i bought def maybe the same time i bought Parklife.

Parklife i bought on cd, and def maybe i bought on tape.

However even though it was Parklife i bought on the new preferred format, def maybe was my fave album and i bought it on tape because i was about to go on holiday with my parents for the week to Wales and only had a personal Tape Player (Walkman)

RenzoRosso Posted on 03/03/2011 14:37
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How old are you now?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 14:39
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i bought those albums around release date, may have been a little bit after.

i'm not doing the math its too late in the day.

RenzoRosso Posted on 03/03/2011 14:42
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its lunch time or just after

so you're about what? 28?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 14:44
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aye lets agree on 28 [:D]

RenzoRosso Posted on 03/03/2011 14:46
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ok so roughly we're the same age, (32)

You must have been a regular at the Arena? Do you remember the roundabout they had upstairs? you'd never get away wiht that now!




Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 14:50
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ok for ffs i be 31

aye the Arena every Friday, and then Mondays when it was free drink once in

roundabout??

I did see Andy Bell in there one night when he was in Hurricane #1

RenzoRosso Posted on 03/03/2011 14:57
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there was a playground roundabout up there wasnt there? Now i know i might have "imagined" quite a lot of other stuff on thoase nights that weren't actually there, ah hem. But that roundabout was, wasnt it?

Oh aye mondays and Fridays, Steve LeMac once fired into my bird at the time (he aint a looker) I was so offended i went home. My mate George started on him and woke up in a skip round the back, minus his upper clothes!

Did you go to the kula Shaker gig circa 96? I remember saying to George "you wont see these in such a small venue ever again", WRONG!

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 15:00
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nah i think the Hurricane #1 gig was my first venture to the arena and that was probably 1997.

saw supernatural, ultrasound, cataonia, lo fi allstars.. and err Gay Dad at the Arena.

Wasnt the roundabout thing at The Boat?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 15:02
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i remember lamaq in the arena dancing with all the girls half his age but twice as big as him.


RenzoRosso Posted on 03/03/2011 15:32
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Boat?

Not sure about that. I dont know what my first gig there was but I was about 15 and still at school, The Area and O'Dwyers pretty much served anyone in them days!
Sneaker Pimps maybe.
Saw a band called Minty there once, they were really odd.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 03/03/2011 15:38
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i started life in The Waterfront in Stockton before venturing to the Arena.