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HolgateCorner Posted on 05/06/2010 16:59
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scientists are now claiming that there are indications that life forms on a Saturn moon are consuming hydrogen.

will these people stop at nothing in trying to convince us God believers that aliens exist?


swordtrombonefish Posted on 05/06/2010 17:00
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Scientist cannot even predict the weather to better than 3 days, ignore em.

HolgateCorner Posted on 05/06/2010 17:02
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good point[^]

MADMICK Posted on 05/06/2010 17:08
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The Universe is teemimg with life...Deal with it[^]

richie_boro Posted on 05/06/2010 17:15
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mick you generally just talk rubbish

I_Shot_JR Posted on 05/06/2010 17:20
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What's it got to do with God? The universe is huge and it's more than likely that there is life elsewhere.

UKLL1981 Posted on 05/06/2010 17:23
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When you consider how big the universe is (there are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on earth..) I'd be shocked if there wasn't life elsewhere.

MADMICK Posted on 05/06/2010 17:47
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richie_boro do you honestly believe that in a Universe that contain billions upon billions upon even more billions and then probably even more billions of stars (our own sun is a star by the way[^]) that here on Earth is the ONLY place that contains life?
How far stuck up thier own @rses can some members of the Human race be, to really believe that?[:O]

HolgateCorner Posted on 05/06/2010 17:51
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I'll just get my head out of my arse, hang on, surely nobody believes freaks like us could exist anywhere else?

God help the universe, oh hell, there's God in the conversation again...

MADMICK Posted on 05/06/2010 18:42
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"surely nobody believes freaks like us could exist anywhere else?"

There ya go again HC[;)]

Head up the @rse thinking humans are so superior to everything else, that should life exist, its either in human form or not at all.
As i said in my "has anyone seen an elephant in thier garden" thread, just because you havent, doesnt mean they dont exist.
Humans just havent yet travelled out of thier back garden yet.[;)]

SGATE_NOSE_BEST Posted on 05/06/2010 20:24
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it mentions on one of the books of the bible all the other adams that never fell(from grace) like ours.
so i would say because of that and also that theres billions of galaxys around there is life other than here.

plazmuh Posted on 05/06/2010 20:41
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Anyone who does not believe in life elsewhere in the Universe are the ones that are totally clueless.
In months not years the disbelievers will look like slack jawed yokels as the ships arrive.
Dont say you were not told
Regards
Plazmuh
[:D][:D][^]

intheblood Posted on 05/06/2010 21:12
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Couldn,t agree more MADMICK in view of the countless numbers of stars out there, surely the odds are absolutely stacked against us being the only life that exists.
We are in comparison, just a grain of sand on all the beaches of the world put together.
It beggars belief anyone can believe we are alone in that kind of vastness.



ASBOro Posted on 05/06/2010 21:18
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The Universe is expanding at the speed of light. Therefore, the possibility of finding and meeting life outside our own solar system is getting greater all the time. I don't believe we'll ever make contact with a civillised alien race in the whole our lifetimes - or them with us.

MADMICK Posted on 05/06/2010 21:44
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ASBOro..what if the Universe is expanding full circle?..if its pushing us and millions of galaxies one way and the other millions of galaxies in the opposite direction..whos to say they arnt getting pushed closer together like they would on the outside of a balloon?

Another thing...just because humans cant yet tavel across space, it doesnt mean other civilisations havent figured a way of doing it..ie..perhaps using some form of black hole to just space.
There may be things we've yet to discover or inderstand that can make traveling thousands of light years in no time at all, but thats no justification to say other life forms havent.
I cant get my head round why people seem to think Humans would be the most advance form of life that exists, i remember someone once worked out the chances of intelligent life elsewhere using a mathamatical formula based on the number of stars, the chances of a star having planets orbiting it, the chances of the right ingredients on the planet for life to happen etc etc..i think it was in the thousands..i'll have to see if i can find the report somewhere.

ASBOro Posted on 05/06/2010 22:04
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I don't believe there are any forces outside of the Universe to make it expand 'full circle'.

I read somewhere that if the time of life in the Universe was a 24 hour clock, the time of life on Earth would be in it's first few seconds or something, so civilised life on other worlds may come and go before they had chance to explore... who knows? I don't think we'll ever have an answer.

oooooo Posted on 05/06/2010 22:58
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We seem obsessed with the idea that life may exist elsewhere. Well I know for a fact that life exists in the universe but it just happens to be right here. To say it couldn't happen elsewhere is just silly.

But once you get a few hundred light years from Earth, the relative chances of use making any contact shrink really. Can you see us surviving long enough to ever put the required time and energy into such a task? I'm not sure.

Sometimes I pop outside on a night and see the stars and for a split-second it truly dawns on me how XXXXXXing amazing it is that we are here but as humans we have concerns that are pretty much in scale to ourselves. We can't get our heads around atoms too well and once things are measured in the realms of light years it all becomes to much and then we think about work tomorrow or popping down to the shop to get a pint of milk.

ASBOro Posted on 05/06/2010 23:03
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"But once you get a few hundred light years from Earth, the relative chances of us making any contact shrink really. Can you see us surviving long enough to ever put the required time and energy into such a task? I'm not sure."

My thoughts exactly!

oldsmoggie Posted on 05/06/2010 23:05
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Oh no youve set Plazmuh off now

ASBOro Posted on 05/06/2010 23:07
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I always love this night time space chat. I think we'll have to have a seperate page devoted to it!

Buddy Posted on 05/06/2010 23:09
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"Anyone who does not believe in life elsewhere in the Universe are the ones that are totally clueless."

Agreed.

"In months not years the disbelievers will look like slack jawed yokels as the ships arrive."

[rle]

Buddy Posted on 05/06/2010 23:13
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"I read somewhere that if the time of life in the Universe was a 24 hour clock, the time of life on Earth would be in it's first few seconds or something,"

Not quite. Say life took a billion years to emerge on Earth, if the Universe was 24 hours old then Earth life would have emerged at about 17:30.

Humanity, on the other hand, has only been around in a recognisable form for a couple of hundred thousand years. In your 24 hour day, that's less than two seconds.

oooooo Posted on 05/06/2010 23:25
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I've always thought that the more we point our telescopes out at the 'void', the more we learn about ourselves.

We might wonder what it is like on other planets in other systems but if you are interested in life and you are a scientist who wanted to know the best place to go to study it, then fear not as you were born in the best lab going!

There's more life teaming on a bit of cheese in my fridge than we've even had a sniff off elsewhere. And every time we seem to get an idea of the constraints in which life needs to work, they get re-written.

There's little worms that live next to those undersea vents that can only survive a certain distance from them. Too close - they die, too far - they die. Yet they've somehow managed to make it. Life finds a way!

Another thing to consider is that if there was life somewhere else, would we even notice it? I'm not sure our brains are equipped to deal with the idea that there might be stuff swimming in lava on another planet or floating peacefully on a lake of mercury somewhere. In fact, the team who were supposed to be operating the mars rovers were tasked to use them in an environment here on Earth that looked similar to the Mars one but we knew there was life there and they didn't find it! Maybe we just need to go there ourselves.


MADMICK Posted on 05/06/2010 23:35
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Its the same old thing "WE" wount find life..."Humans" havent the technology.
Why cant people get thier head around the fact that other life forms may have been around much longer than Humans?
Imagine another intelligent life form thats been around, lets just say...A thousand years before Humans, imagine in another Thousand years time the sort of Technology Humans will have..for christ sake it was only 107 years ago when humans made the first ever flight, so in a hundred years we've progressed to sending 2 probes out past the edge of our galaxy, we've been to the moon several times, we've landed numerous machines on Mars. we have probes orbiting Saturn and its Moons, and all this in 100 years!
Think of what we will achieve in another 900 years!...and more importantly, what another life form could achieve if it had a greater intelligence than Humans.

People need to stop comparing everything with what a Human is capable and start trying to accept that theres other life forms out there much futher advanced than us.

oooooo Posted on 05/06/2010 23:45
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I do get it Mick but just waiting around for it to happen to us seems a little arrogant too.

MADMICK Posted on 05/06/2010 23:52
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oooooo, i'd hardly say we are "just waiting around for it to happen".

The human race is steadily making steps in its search for life, which brings me to another point, why are we spending Billions every year on searching for signs of life if theres no chance of finding it?...that alone tells me people a lot higher up than us think theres life out there[;)]

juan_kosoff Posted on 06/06/2010 01:11
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What did everyone make of the Britains Got Talent final ?

I liked Twist and Pulse but to be fair Spelbound were very good and worthy winners

plazmuh Posted on 06/06/2010 02:15
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I have a funny feeling this is about to happen
but please feel free to pass on the word.
Regards
Plazmuh
[:D][:D][^]


Link: Coming Soon To A Planet Near You

ASBOro Posted on 06/06/2010 05:24
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Yeah, sorry Buddy. That should read: if the time of life in the Universe was a 24 hour clock, the time of intelligent life on Earth would be in it's first few seconds."

Mick, I quote: "why are we spending Billions every year on searching for signs of life if theres no chance of finding it?...that alone tells me people a lot higher up than us think theres life out there."

We're spending billions every year on trying to make weapons of mass destruction to kill each other... that alone tells me people a lot higher up than us think we're really not worth it... [;)]

borobarmy1 Posted on 06/06/2010 08:49
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theyve been and gone . i dont think we particularly impressed them [:o)]

coluka Posted on 06/06/2010 10:44
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I can't believe that some people don't accept the likelihood of life on other planets - FFS they are here now, just wander down Linny Rd after 6pm any evening, there are loads of em [8)]

HolgateCorner Posted on 06/06/2010 10:55
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look I don't want to rain on anybody's fantasy parade here but one random creation of life in 5 billion years on a planet like this where (looking at my back garden) you can't stop anything growing anywhere it shouldn't is hardly convincing evidence of a universe teeming with life.

The planets within reach of us are barren dust bowls.

The human race has been around in reasonably civilised form for a few thousand years now and there has been no contact, no landings, no crash landings, no alien graves found in egypt, no ancient manuscripts talking about green men, nothing.

Not even the yanks have managed to come up with anything, as barmy as they are.

Our space probes and telescopes have found..nothing.

No martians, no space ships, no strange relics, no tardis's and no daleks.

Until you show me some evidence, I remain faithful to God and even then the aliens might be His idea of a bit of fun.


Buddy Posted on 06/06/2010 11:49
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You're being a bit restrictive on the scope of "life", HC. Microbial "soup" isn't given to building spacecraft and buzzing Pharoahs.

sixtyniner69 Posted on 06/06/2010 12:00
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you lot must be really clever cos i can hardly understand women [rle]

let alone what creatures on another planet would do and think [xx(]

if alien life was a matriarchal society and there was an enormous shoe shop in space would they explore past it ??????

MADMICK Posted on 06/06/2010 16:47
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HolgateCorner......

"The human race has been around in reasonably civilised form for a few thousand years now and there has been no contact, no landings, no crash landings, no alien graves found in egypt, no ancient manuscripts talking about green men, nothing.
Not even the yanks have managed to come up with anything, as barmy as they are.
Our space probes and telescopes have found..nothing.
No martians, no space ships, no strange relics, no tardis's and no daleks.
Until you show me some evidence, I remain faithful to God and even then the aliens might be His idea of a bit of fun."

................................

Our own galaxy - the Milky Way - contains 200 billion stars, but it is still too large for effective communications, because of its size - 90 000 light years - would require 180 000 years for a two way communication using Light, yet Humans method of communication "Radio waves", would take an unbelievabley long time to cross the galaxy!.

What if an advanced civilisation was capable of sending Earth so form of signal to let us know of thier existance, but in a form of signal we dont understand?
Lets face it, if we sent signals to another planet and didnt recieve anything back after a number of years, we would turn our attention to somewhere else.
How do you know we wernt sent signals over a couple of hundred years ago when we wernt capable of receiving them?

Its seems to me that the whole arguement against life on other planets is based around what Humans can or cant do and also based around the time period of Human technolodgy....again, its stinks to high heaven of Human Arrogance to me.


boro74 Posted on 06/06/2010 17:14
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I believe in alien life.

My theory is that aliens came to earth and kidnapped Michael Ricketts.
They replaced him with an identical double who was unfortunately, as far as football is concerned, a talentless lump of shight.

Think about it...

Hercules Posted on 06/06/2010 17:19
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Think of what we will achieve in another 900 years

We'll probably have wiped ourselves out or at least removed our ability to operate the technology you dream of.

I find it hard to believe we are alone in the universe but due to the time you mentioned it taking to communicate and the time humans or any other intelligent life are present with the ability to communicate it's unlikely we'll ever know about our neighbours.