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ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 20:32
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Now, some of their manifesto might seem ok. They seem to be more in touch with the ordinary British working class than the Labour party (supposedly the party that represents the working class), but are people falling for the wolf in sheep's clothing?

One of the lads in the pub the other night said "They're not racist". Now I was watching a documentary series a couple of months ago on Hitler. In the early 30s, he tried to say that the Nazi party weren't anti-semitic and made noises about social inclusion and equality, believe it or not.

The same mate said that if Churchill were alive, he'd be pro-BNP. That's a matter of opinion, though as Churchill made his reputation in a war against Naziism, surely that's insulting his memory. That statement he made sounds like a regurgitation of summat Nick Griffin said. Shows how susceptible people are to bullXXXXXX, I suppose. I notice that on their election leaflets, they had an image of Churchill.

Nick Griffin might come across as an intelligent man. His candidates might be wearing suits and carrying briefcases, but without wanting to stereotype, would I be wrong in thinking most members are just thuggish types?

If I voted for them, I don't think I could look my next door neighbour (of Pakistani descent)or my doctor (of Indian descent) in the eye. Nor could I look in the eye the mixed-race lad who sits next to me at the Boro matches, or some of my old school mates from Breckon Hill primary, Bertram Ramsey/Brackenhoe if I voted for these. I also heard somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong), that they have 300-ish candidates in the election. Therefore, they have no chance of so much as being involved in any government. This surely renders any vote for them, wasted, or at best, a protest vote.

I'd like to ask Nick Griffin what his favourite curry is, or favourite curry house. What about his favourite music (as most popular music can be traced back to being of black American origin)?

red_shamrock Posted on 04/05/2010 20:34
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

And did you know that most of their Music can be traced back to White Protestant Hymns.

zorro_mfc Posted on 04/05/2010 20:34
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Anyone thinking of voting for them should never forget the fact

BNP = NF

Horrid blight on our polical system but a necessary evil in our democracy.

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 04/05/2010 20:35
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Their 15 minutes has been and gone with the Euro vote.

Will win even less seats this time around.

More like a sheep in rabbits clothing

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 20:36
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Red shamrock [smi]! Nowt wrong with that, then. [;)]

red_shamrock Posted on 04/05/2010 20:36
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Its is Necessary Zorro..keeps all the nutters in one place

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 20:37
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

There's someone on here who thinks they're the mutt's nuts. However, ask him what their policies are on health, education and economics and he's stumped, but he'll blabber on about their immigration policy endlessly, except when numbers and money start being mentioned.

Tommy_Trinder Posted on 04/05/2010 20:39
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Red_Shamrock

Your not catholic perchance?

Not that you can tell from your posts mind..[rle]

degsyspesh Posted on 04/05/2010 20:40
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

The BNP are just a sick joke who can't even be honest about their policies and who just prey on the mentality sub-normal for their support.

red_shamrock Posted on 04/05/2010 20:42
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Its very true... most Black Gospel Music derives from White Protestant Hymns.

I have no Religion Mr Trinder.

xxlshirts_fit_all Posted on 04/05/2010 20:43
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it is good to see the moderate left and right of the board agree on one thing![smi]

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 20:44
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PTCFT..."am i wrong in thinking most BNP members are thuggish"...
does that include Mr Rajinder Singh?
What brings you to that conclusion anyway?..is it because most of the English males tend to hide thier bald patches and shave thier heads?
Thats a bit like saying women who wear burkha's carry bombs isnt it?

A lot of people cant get the idea that the BNP is the old NF..it isnt, times have changed and so has the BNPs policies and i think a lot of people can see this..why is it the BNP are growing at such a fast rate?
yet there is a news blackout amongst journalists to not broadcast anything that puts the BNP in a good light..that in its self is hypocritical.

Tommy_Trinder Posted on 04/05/2010 20:44
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hmmmm..ok

privatepile75 Posted on 04/05/2010 20:45
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

nick griffin admitted to paxman that they'll never get in power, he said they want to make the government sit up and take notice of what people want with regards to immigration.

privatepile75 Posted on 04/05/2010 20:48
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'The BNP are just a sick joke who can't even be honest about their policies'

unlike which other party?

zorro_mfc Posted on 04/05/2010 20:48
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yes that Nick Griffin is a lovely bloke.

Ironically the images they have besmirched in the joke of a campaign gave their lives keeping this country from the likes of them.

The use of churchills image in their tv broadcast turned my stomach.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 04/05/2010 20:49
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

"Thats a bit like saying women who wear burkha's carry bombs isnt it?"

Errmm....no it's not.

degsyspesh Posted on 04/05/2010 20:50
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PP75 - fair comment, but they take things to another level

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 20:50
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privatepile75..exactly...some of the idiots on here are so wrapped up in hatered, they fail to see that the whole reason for anyone voting BNP is to get the other main parties to take notice of thier concerns..no one in thier right mind expects the BNP to win the election..altho i suspect one or 2 chompers on here think thats the case![;)][:D]

zorro_mfc Posted on 04/05/2010 20:52
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some of the idiots on here are so wrapped up in hatered

strange argument for the BNP a party motivated purely by race abit like the one that austrian bloke led in the 30's

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 20:55
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yet there is a news blackout amongst journalists to not broadcast anything that puts the BNP in a good light..that in its self is hypocritical.
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Griffin was on BBC News live last week, he was given the opportunity to put his party in a "good light" yet didn't.

Bitch all you want about this "blackout", if he's not promoting what he thinks are the BNP's positive policies then he, his party and its dumb XXXXXX supporters can't moan about the press not wanting to give attention to a bunch of fascist, bigotted cretins.

Whilst we're here; explain what's "hypocritical" about it. You use this word quite a lot but clearly don't understand it.

zorro_mfc Posted on 04/05/2010 20:56
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Blackout? ooh the BNP won't like that.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 04/05/2010 20:56
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What I can't get my head round is Nick Griffin happy to accept being associated with Marmite.

I thought he'd want to send it all to Africa on account if it being brown, being named after a French cooking pot and owned by an Anglo-Dutch firm.

Fecking hypocrites.

privatepile75 Posted on 04/05/2010 21:00
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madmick, i could never vote for them but that doesn't mean i disagree with everything they say. i did consider it as a protest vote but thankfully not for too long. the truth is, all politicians are liars and thieves who are only interested in lining their own pockets[V]

red_shamrock Posted on 04/05/2010 21:02
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And the Queen PP[^]

privatepile75 Posted on 04/05/2010 21:03
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red_shamrock, leave ponce out of this[:D][:D]

zorro_mfc Posted on 04/05/2010 21:11
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After the recent court ruling about having to open the party member ship to all races I have expected to see one of them on Tv blacked up ala the it aint half hot mum...

here is their new line up

[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:o)][B)][xx(][:(!]

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 21:12
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privatepile75.."i could never vote for them but that doesn't mean i disagree with everything they say."

well said..at least you have been bothered to look at thier policies and made a educated decision unlike some of the beauts on here that come out with pathetic comments without even bothering to read up on what the BNP policies are..most of the doyles on here call the BNP a racist orginisation yet they are now admitting foriegn born members into the BNP.
The BNP dont have a problem with immigration..just MASS immigration, and thats were the problem lies..its a shame some on here cant see a difference.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 21:15
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zorro...."After the recent court ruling about having to open the party member ship to all races I have expected to see one of them on Tv blacked up ala the it aint half hot mum"

Im supprised the Lab/cons/libs dont go on TV dressed up as ostriches, lets face it, they are all burying thier heads in the sand hoping the immigration issue will go away.

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 21:16
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"we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration" doesn't draw much of a distinction between the levels, mass or otherwise. And as for the membership thing, it's not really some Damascene conversion to openness and tolerance. They would never have changed it without pressure from the Equality and Human Rights Commission and the courts.

Voltaire Posted on 04/05/2010 21:17
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Where, exactly, is the sheep's clothing?

To quote Blackadder, they've got as much talent for disguise as a giraffe in dark glasses trying to get into a polar bears-only golf club.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 04/05/2010 21:22
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MADMICK.

Carry on deluding yourself the BNP are not racially motivated - you clearly don't have the intelligence required to understand the menaing behind their (not very but enough to convince thick XXXXXXs) cleverly worded policies.

Cheers. [^]

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 21:25
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So the BNP stopped being a racist organisation the moment they, after being forced by the courts, amended their constitution to allow non-white membership?!

[:D]

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 21:31
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Numbskull..i think you've answered your own question......"amended their constitution to allow non-white membership"

you gormless f00king clown[:o)][:D]

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 21:37
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You don't get it MADMICK, do you?

You've done absolutely nothing to dispel the myth BNP voters are poorly-educated cretins. It's a shame that the only vocal BNP supporter on here is as dense as you.

Jesus Christ!

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 21:37
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You didn't answer the bit about being forced to.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 21:39
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"You've done absolutely nothing to dispel the myth BNP voters are poorly-educated cretins. It's a shame that the only vocal BNP supporter on here is as dense as you.

Jesus Christ!"

So now your saying Jesus was a BNP member?[rle]

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 21:44
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Excellent way of avoiding the question, yet again!

It's amazing how cowardly you are and how reluctant you are to address any issue regarding to BNP that crops up.

You cry like a bairn whenever someone attacks the party and what they stand for, usually by rattling on about "immergrashun", but when the difficult question get asked you look to dodge around the issue.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 21:47
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Your getting angry now peter arnt you...i can tell[;)][:D][:D]

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 21:48
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I'm not. Just disappointed you won't answer the point.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 21:52
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Buddy they wernt "forced" to accept non white members.

If they were as you put it "Forced", then what does that say about democracy in this country if people are "forced" into changng thier political beliefs?..kind of throws all the accusations back in all your faces doesnt it?

ps..peter..dont bite, i cant concentrate on the questions when i'm laughing at you, losing it![:D][:D]

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 21:54
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They wouldn't have changed without the pressure, would they? And if the word you want to use is "forced" then you can't use it to claim they're not racist, can you?

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 21:56
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It is more a feeling of pity than one of anger.

Angry is when the kids next door scratch my car, or a find cat XXXXXX in the back garden, not when some cowardly cretin who struggles to string a sentence together gets upset when the BNP get a hammering on here.

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:01
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The BNP's existence was jeopardised by their non-white membership policy. They reluctantly changed it because they desperately want to get their message across, even if it meant doing something which contradicted their beliefs.

You honestly think they all of a sudden become non-racist the moment they have to changed their constitution?

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:05
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the BNP voted to change its constitution to allow black and Asian people to join.

From a news article about Rajinder Singh joining the BNP:

"The party made the decision at an extraordinary general meeting in Essex yesterday after it was told by Central London County Court to amend its constitution to comply with race relations laws or face legal action by the Equality and Human Rights Commission."

By the way, as far as I know, my mate who said last week that he's voting BNP has never shown any racist tendencies. In fact, I once saw him have a go at another mate of ours who made a racist remark to a taxi driver on the way home from a night out.

I'm all for trying to retain the British way of life because I'm patriotic, but I just think the BNP, like many politicians are merely trying to make themselves seen as respectable and electable. They're appealing to the patriotic instinct of the working class. I just find it all a bit cynical.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:05
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It wasnt me who used to word "forced" it was peterdreadnuaght and it was his question you were asking me for an answer to.
If the BNP were so "Racist" then why did they agree to let non white members into the party?
they didnt have to, there was plenty of other options they could have taken.
Theres plenty of organisations in this country that dont allow "white people" into them, but i dont see anyone geting threatened with court action over it..do you?

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:09
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they didnt have to, there was plenty of other options they could have taken.
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Like what?



Theres plenty of organisations in this country that dont allow "white people" into them, but i dont see anyone geting threatened with court action over it..do you?
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Like what?

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:09
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ProudToComeFromTeesside, some people on here cant differentiate between people worried about mass immigration into this country and all the problems it causes and people who go around with a hatered for anything non white.
The likes of peterdreadnaught are as fanatical as the people they claim to be so opposed to, the trouble is, he's to stupid to realise it.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:11
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I can just imagine when Mr Singh first tried to join the BNP. It might have been summat like this (see video in link).

Wouldn't it be funny if lots of black and asian people now joined and brought it down from within?

Mick, fair enough, but I think that a leopard doesn't change its spots. I'm sure that those put forward as candidates are seen as respectable people, but what about the rank and file members of the BNP? Can you honestly say that they're not racist? Can you honestly say that they don't favour discrimination against non-whites? I wonder how many of them would deny that the holocaust happened?


Link: B-b-b-but you're black

ASBOro Posted on 04/05/2010 22:18
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The BNP's policies:

Deporting all illegal immigrants,

Deporting all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British,

Stopping all new immigration except for exceptional cases,

Rejecting all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain,

Re-introducing corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals,

Restoring capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute,

Ending the liberal fixation with the “rights” of criminals and replacing it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims,

Nurturing and encouragement of new and existing British industries,

Re-introducing the married man’s allowance,

Promoting of domestic competition of industries,

Increasing taxes on companies which outsource work abroad,

Replacing 100,000 NHS Bureaucrats with Doctors, Nurses and Dentists,

Investing sufficient money in the NHS to provide a decent service to the British people,

Abolition of all “stealth taxes” and other charges on household rubbish collections,

Removing unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground,

Making all benefits and social housing only available to British citizens,

Only committing British armed forces when British national interests are at stake,

Closing all foreign military bases on British soil,

Resolutely oppose the single European currency,

Support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures,

and Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws which prevent people from making a free choice.

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 22:22
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"they didnt have to"

Except they did, didn't they? The phrase I used was "they would never have changed without the pressure from the EHRC and the courts". Which is a quote from the BNP's legal officer.


Link: Lee Barnes

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:23
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I posted that policies list up last week ASBOro, just to try and show the doyles on here the BNP have genuine policies which appeal to many people, but it was pulled (i told you there was a blackout on anything good about the BNP![;)])

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 22:24
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"Removing unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground," [:D][:D]

I meant to mention that one the other day. I presume we're supposed to overlook the habitat destruction caused by the digging?!

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:25
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You also got ripped to bits and spat the dummy when the policies were picked apart.

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:29
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That's a good one Buddy. [^]

I also like their idea to deport undesirables. They don't exactly say where they'll deport them too, simply that they'll deport them.

I can see they've thought it through.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:29
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I'll be honest, some of those policies, on the face of it, seem alright. Nowt wrong with protecting the interests of British people.

But, closing all foreign military bases on UK soil? The US are our allies in NATO for crying out loud. That seems a bit silly. What's the reasoning behind that?

"Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws which prevent people from making a free choice."

I believe in people making a free choice, but by abolishing anti-discrimination, are they not promoting discrimination? The Nazis racial policies, in the beginning, were quite watered down as well. Then they got into power. Not that we should be complacent, but by only putting up 300 or so candidates, the BNP aren't going to get a sniff, even with a hung parliament.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:32
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"Removing unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground," [:D][:D]

I meant to mention that one the other day. I presume we're supposed to overlook the habitat destruction caused by the digging?
Really buddy...you really think that power lines could'nt be buried underground and then the earth above them return to green land?


thats quite startling to think someone could use that as an excuse to have a pop at a political party isnt it...your fellow voters must be quite proud of you![:o)][:D]

Peter....nows your chance...pick apart the policies from the above list....we watch in antisipation![:O][:D]

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:33
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Not that we should be complacent, but by only putting up 300 or so candidates, the BNP aren't going to get a sniff, even with a hung parliament.
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I think in the interest of harmony it would be great for the BNP get a seat just to see the joy and elation on MADMICK's little face.

[:D]

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 22:33
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"Making all benefits and social housing only available to British citizens"

(although we're not a bit racist, remember....)

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:36
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Buddy, being biased towards British citizens doesn't necessarily mean racism. It's what lies behind the policies that concerns me. As I said, a leopard doesn't change its spots.

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 22:37
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It's more the astonishing simplicity of whoever wrote it MICK. "Quick, we need an environmental policy, we've done the bit about overpopulation causing damage so that's the immigration box ticked AGAIN, what else can we say?"

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:39
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Buddy....not sure if you understand this, but there are non white british citizens you know[rle]

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:40
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Buddy, being biased towards British citizens doesn't necessarily mean racism. It's what lies behind the policies that concerns me. As I said, a leopard doesn't change its spots.
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But then who do the BNP consider to be British?

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:42
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petedreadnought...from little acorns grow giants Oaks.
How many years of trying has it taken the Lib Dems to ge even to within a sniff of the 2 main parties?[rle]
your not very good at this politics lark are you?[:o)]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:44
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[^] Good point Peter. I looked up some articles on Rajinder Singh, the first non-white member of the BNP. There was the following comment by a BNP spokesman:

"People like Rajinder accept the party’s position. He’s a guest of our country: he agrees to abide by our laws and customs."

How bloody patronising is that? Now, I think those that come to live in this country should abide by our laws and customs, as any Briton who emigrates should abide by their adopted country's laws and customs (when in Rome, etc), but calling him a guest is a bit insulting to the fella. Makes it sound like he can stay only as long as they want him too.

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:45
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According to Griffin there's no such thing as a black Welshman.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:47
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"According to Griffin there's no such thing as a black Welshman."

and according to you theres no such thing as a white Englishman....hypocrite arnt we PD[^]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:48
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I must have just imagined Rob Earnshaw's goal against us at the Riverside then.

Only_Me Posted on 04/05/2010 22:50
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Churchill might well have supported the BNP. He was very definitely against immigration, certainly at the high levels that we've had and also he was in favour of eugenics.

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 22:52
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Interesting point about the rights of British citizens. Let's start with:

"The BNP will review all citizenship grants awarded since Labour entered government
in 1997"

I think it's a short step from there to deciding on a different start year. And then once the citizenship is revoked, presumably the rights are also revoked.

"The BNP will repeal the Race Relations Act" - why would they need to do that if race wasn't an issue?

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 22:52
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at last..the voice of reason![;)]
Hello OM..welcome to the battle...stand back hyopcrites, the big guns have arrived![^][:D]

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:52
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The Rajinder Singh issue is quite interesting and I kind of feel sorry for him. His hatred for Muslims is well publicised and such is his dislike he finds himself on common ground with the BNP, hence his support. However, what this man seems to be overlooking is that given he's from India; he and his children would never be considered British.

He's a great PR tool for the BNP to try and claim they're not racist, but then Singh himself even admits they are.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:53
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Considering that eugenics is one of the cornerstones of Naziism, which Churchill led this country in the fight against, I'm a tad surprised by that. Do you know that for a fact or is it just some sort of myth or hearsay?

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 22:53
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Now i am not voting bnp but with regards to being forced to take other colours/origins does that mean i can join the black policemans organisation.

I think we like the news are in danger of giving these dispicable people more publicity but calling them for things thaty happen in every day life, catholics do not allow women to be preists should the high court tell them they should, as abouve with the black and asian police should that be abolished.

its very similar to when frankie goes to hollywood got to number one with relax, radio stations banned it top of the pops banned it there was no internet to download it so people went out of the way to buy it, the only way to sort the bnp out is to let them have a open forum and let them beat themselves, they had an ideal chance to do it on question time but it was so rigged to try to embarrass them it had the opposite effect

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 22:55
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"Immigration has had a dramatic effect on Britain’s rising crime rate.
- According to official figures, over 77 percent of adult black males between the ages of 18 and 35 are on the police’s DNA database"

Can't see any distinction as to whether said black males are British-born or not, I'm afraid.

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:55
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and according to you theres no such thing as a white Englishman....hypocrite arnt we PD[^]
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Interesting that not only are you using words you don't understand, you're rolling out the lies again to try and make a point. You've failed in the past with this tactic, but you seem to persist with it.

oooooo Posted on 04/05/2010 22:56
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If the BNP got in power, they would change, do you think it would be more to the left or more to the right? I know, you all must.

The Nazis didn't goose-step into power and start murdering people straight away. All they had to do was focus a country with a negative economic outlook onto a few groups as the cause. People are already stating immigration as a direct negative influence on jobs.

The people who voted them in didn't particularly think they were evil, either.

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 22:57
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Churchill might well have supported the BNP. He was very definitely against immigration, certainly at the high levels that we've had and also he was in favour of eugenics.
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I doubt Churchill would have supported the BNP due to a solitary policy regarding immigration.

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 22:58
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wiggler - are you a police officer? I think you may have problems joining the NBPA if not.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 22:58
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

ooooooo [^] Spot on!

That's what I say as well.

Have I put the right number of o's in your username? [;)]

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 22:58
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why, cant the high court allow it to stop being discrinatory......lol

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:00
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Now i am not voting bnp but with regards to being forced to take other colours/origins does that mean i can join the black policemans organisation.
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The NBPA doesn't have a policy excluding people of certain race.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:00
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buddy.."I think it's a short step from there to deciding on a different start year"

you "think"....thats a good arguement[^]

2why will the BNP repeal the Race Relations Act"

Perhaps so that the next time some Muslim Nutcase decides to deface our war heros graves, the race relations act wont be there to help to stop him been kicked out of the country.

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 23:00
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I know. I've been trying to join the PFA for years but they won't have it.

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:01
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So shouldnt it be called the united colours of benetton police association.


petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:02
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I wonder why MADMICK won't tell us what these other options the BNP could have taken regarding their membership policy and what these organisations are that don't allow white people to join.

Buddy Posted on 04/05/2010 23:05
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See there's a problem with that MICK. Because what you're saying is that somebody of a different race or religion should be treated differently for the same offence. I'll call that "discrimination" to avoid the argument about Muslims following a religion rather than being a race.

And on the citizenship thing, are you trying to argue that reviewing all citizenship awards since 1997 is an entirely sensible policy but anything earlier is silly speculation? Do you not agree that, fundamentally, your earlier argument about non-white British citizens probably won't stand up if Nick and his mates start going through the list looking for citizenships to revoke?

oooooo Posted on 04/05/2010 23:07
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ProudToComeFromTeesside, just the 6 so as not to be confused with oooo who is someone else. [:D]

Only_Me Posted on 04/05/2010 23:08
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"Considering that eugenics is one of the cornerstones of Naziism, which Churchill led this country in the fight against, I'm a tad surprised by that. Do you know that for a fact or is it just some sort of myth or hearsay? "


Oh it's a fact alright. There's plenty of stuff out on there on the net about it.
have posted you a link to a Washington Times article, which mentions it. There's lots more though.

LOL @ Mick btw [:D]


While we are on the subject though, I did think it rather unfair that Jon Snow ( I think it was ) in a recent interview, hauled Griffin over hot coals because he didn't know the precise figures for the country's debt. I don't think anyone except Gordon does and it will take a while to unravel all of the knots in the books to find out.
Shame he didn't press Gordon and the other leaders on the same point, I think.


Link: 3rd paragraph, I think

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 23:09
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"Deporting all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British"

So, someone like Mr Singh, who has lived here for 43 years, could commit some minor indiscretion, and he has to go back to India? When they say original nationality, do they mean the perpetrator, or their parents/grandparents? What I mean is if some teenage muslim commits a minor offence, in the eyes of the BNP, is his original nationality deemed to be non-British?

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:11
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What about the...
black only housing associaiton
Black Association of Women Step Out
The Black and Asian Studies Association

i cant be@rsed finding more, there is if im right, around 250..balck and asian associations..for ermmmm..balck and asisin people (non whites)

live with it PD..your barking up the wrong tree again.
Persoanlly i dont mind any of the associations and if someone wants to start a whites association, i wouldnt be bothered by that either...but you cant, it would be classed as racist..therein lies a lot of this countries problems, white people are now becoming victims of race issues in thier own country, and thats why the BNP are growng so quickly.

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:13
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While we are on the subject though, I did think it rather unfair that Jon Snow ( I think it was ) in a recent interview, hauled Griffin over hot coals because he didn't know the precise figures for the country's debt.
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It might have been on Sky. He was quizzed by Boulton the debt figure that was in the BNP's manifesto, which was no where near.

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:15
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The BNP's policies:

Deporting all illegal immigrants,

Deporting all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British,

Stopping all new immigration except for exceptional cases,

Rejecting all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain,

Re-introducing corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals,

Restoring capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute,

Ending the liberal fixation with the “rights” of criminals and replacing it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims,

Nurturing and encouragement of new and existing British industries,

Re-introducing the married man’s allowance,

Promoting of domestic competition of industries,

Increasing taxes on companies which outsource work abroad,

Replacing 100,000 NHS Bureaucrats with Doctors, Nurses and Dentists,

Investing sufficient money in the NHS to provide a decent service to the British people,

Abolition of all “stealth taxes” and other charges on household rubbish collections,

Removing unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground,

Making all benefits and social housing only available to British citizens,

Only committing British armed forces when British national interests are at stake,

Closing all foreign military bases on British soil,

Resolutely oppose the single European currency,

Support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures,

and Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws which prevent people from making a free choice.


Proudtocomefromteesside do you agree with any of the above, this is in all seriousness because i agree with about 6, copy and paste and highlight if you agree to any of them and everyone else do the same i think it would be interesting to see what people actually think, as i believe rightly or wrongly if a couple of these were on the 3 main parties list we would not be headed for a hung parliment

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:17
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ProudToComeFromTeesside, they mean if someone commited a serious crime in this country, not minor offences, and if the person was born here, then no, he would'nt be sent back to another country, this is his country.
Mind you, i dont think there would be many people upset if that person who defaced the war memorial was deported to another country..do you?

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:17
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You seem to have misunderstood the question, MADMICK.

Towell Posted on 04/05/2010 23:30
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I'm not going to read this thread merely offer my thoughts, your mates are thick, madmick is thick, the BNP are thick.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:33
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"I'm not going to read this thread merely offer my thoughts, your mates are thick, madmick is thick, the BNP are thick."

you forgot to add, any one who forms an opinion based on something they no nothing about is also..THICK[^]...you f00king doyle!harharhar![:D]

TurnbullsCans Posted on 04/05/2010 23:34
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Your mates are thick


[:D]

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:34
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He's right though; you are thick.

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:35
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No one has dared agree with any policies, very interesting, i thought even for the most disgruntled there would be at least one you would take to the big, i must admit although there is 6 i agree with if the party i am voting for took a select 2 of them i would be happier

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:36
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Coming from you PD, i'll take that as a compliment[^][:D]

TurnbullsCans Posted on 04/05/2010 23:36
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There's just something about the phrase 'your mates are thick' that is mildly amusing [smi]

Maybe I'm tired.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 23:36
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Wiggler, I'll try with my comments in capitals.

Deporting all illegal immigrants - IN THEORY, CAN'T DISAGREE, BUT A LEGAL PROCESS MUST BE FOLLOWED AND CASES MUST BE DEALT WITH FAIRLY.

Deporting all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British - ONLY ON CRIMES AGAINST THIS COUNTRY SUCH AS TERRORISM

Stopping all new immigration except for exceptional cases - DISAGREE. I'M NOT ANTI-IMMIGRATION, THOUGH WOULD LIKE TO SEE A POINTS SYSTEM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EMPLOYERS GET BRITISH PEOPLE OFF BENEFITS RATHER THAN HAVING TO RELY ON IMMIGRANT LABOUR.

Rejecting all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain - DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS AREA

Re-introducing corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals - WE NEED BETTER DETERRENTS BUT THIS SOUNDS A BIT UNCIVILILSED.

Restoring capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute - I'M AGAINST CAPITAL PUNISHMENT, BUT LIFE SHOULD MEAN LIFE.

Ending the liberal fixation with the “rights” of criminals and replacing it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims. OK IN THEORY, BUT ARE THEY ADVOCATING MOB-STYLE SUMMARY JUSTICE?

Nurturing and encouragement of new and existing British industries - FAIR ENOUGH.

Re-introducing the married man’s allowance - FAIR ENOUGH.

Promoting of domestic competition of industries - NOWT WRONG WITH THAT.

Increasing taxes on companies which outsource work abroad - FAIR ENOUGH, BUT WILL IT WORK?

Replacing 100,000 NHS Bureaucrats with Doctors, Nurses and Dentists - EASIER SAID THAN DONE. HOW DO THEY KNOW HOW MUCH ADMIN STAFF TO DISPOSE OF?

Investing sufficient money in the NHS to provide a decent service to the British people - WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM?

Abolition of all “stealth taxes” and other charges on household rubbish collections - STILL INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD BALANCE THE BOOKS.

Removing unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground - NOT THAT IMPORTANT AN ISSUE TO ME.

Making all benefits and social housing only available to British citizens - I'M AGAINST IMMIGRANTS FINDING IT SO EASY TO CLAIM BENEFITS. ADOPTING AN AUSSIE STYLE POINTS SYSTEM MIGHT HELP REDUCE THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS COMING OVER HERE ONLY TO BE A BURDEN ON THE STATE. I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE FIGURES THAT PROVE WHETHER THE PROBLEMS IS AS BAD AS SOME MAKE OUT.

Only committing British armed forces when British national interests are at stake - CAN'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

Closing all foreign military bases on British soil - DISAGREE. WE ARE PART OF NATO. THE USA ARE OUR ALLIES.

Resolutely oppose the single European currency - I WANT TO KEEP THE POUND, BUT SO DO THE TORIES AND THE UKIP. I'M IN FAVOUR OF REFERENDUMS BEFORE CONCEDING MORE TO THE EU.

Support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures - DON'T DISAGREE, BUT IT'S HARDLY A CONTROVERSIAL POLICY.

and Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws which prevent people from making a free choice - SOUNDS LIKE A RECIPE FOR ENCOURAGING DISCRIMINATION. THEY'D START WITH THAT, THEN IMPLEMENT SUMMAT MORE SINISTER, AS PER THE NAZIS IN 30s GERMANY.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:39
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wiggler, ive asked that question on here before..dont hold your breath waiting for an answer, some of the doyles on here are set in there ways, i often wonder if im talking to 99 year old grannies....(arrr but our betties anties best friends grand daughters cousin said to vote labour, so im voting labour.....blarblar blar)[:D]

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:40
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thanks proud, i belive the one where you said you dont know enough about the area, basically asylum seekers should seek asylum in the first free land they arrive, however at the moment the land travel thousands of miles stay in a french camp site and hitch a ride over here as they know they will be treated better, we cannot under law refuse them.

Not an insult just clearing it up

Towell Posted on 04/05/2010 23:41
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You must admit though Mick, you are genuinely a bit thick.

I mean I'm never offended by you or anything like that, just a bit embarrassed on occasion.


wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:43
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So proud the question is if you were a voter and you had say decided to vote for labour and then you saw the tories had listed the policies you have agreed to above would it make you re-evaluate about your vote

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:44
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No one has dared agree with any policies, very interesting, i thought even for the most disgruntled there would be at least one you would take to the big, i must admit although there is 6 i agree with if the party i am voting for took a select 2 of them i would be happier
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wiggler, taking the first one for example; I have no disagreement with deporting illegal immigrants, but how do the BNP intend to achieve this objective?

I've not read any material from them explaining how they intend to go about this.

I've seen figures that estimate there maybe up to one million illegal immigrants in the UK and to locate, detain then deport them (presuming you know where to deport them to) is just difficult to comprehend. It's like looking for a needle in a massive stack of needles.

It's all fair and well stating: "We'll deport illegal immigrants", how about they tell us how?

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:44
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ProudToComeFromTeesside, thats pretty much how id find the policies..except id deffinately have the death penalty for terrorists child abusers and murderers(cold blooded killings)

Its funny how most people would if they were honest agree with a lot of them policies, yet how starnge the other parties dont have any of them as thier policies?

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:47
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thanks proud, i belive the one where you said you dont know enough about the area, basically asylum seekers should seek asylum in the first free land they arrive, however at the moment the land travel thousands of miles stay in a french camp site and hitch a ride over here as they know they will be treated better, we cannot under law refuse them.
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You do know that we can refuse to grant asylum to people don't you?

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:48
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petedreadnought, why dont you just go onto the BNP's website and read up on thier policies and how they plan to put them into practice..it would save a lot of your time on here talking like a f00king parrot all the time asking the same questions over and over again to different people.

You really are a boring chunt you know![rle]

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:48
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i will do mine aswell

The BNP's policies:

Deporting all illegal immigrants, disagree although i would prob get rid of the amount of appeals processes as it costs the tax payers billions and makes average lawyers very rich

Deporting all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British, disagree if you are now a british citizen, you are brithish

Stopping all new immigration except for exceptional cases, kind of agree although certain proffessions like doctors would have to be allowed

Rejecting all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain, agree

Re-introducing corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, disagree

Restoring capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, diagree but agree with pround life means life

Ending the liberal fixation with the “rights” of criminals and replacing it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims, agree

Nurturing and encouragement of new and existing British industries, agree

Re-introducing the married man’s allowance, as now married agree

Promoting of domestic competition of industries, agree

Increasing taxes on companies which outsource work abroad, agree

Replacing 100,000 NHS Bureaucrats with Doctors, Nurses and Dentists, dont know how it would work but sounds good

Investing sufficient money in the NHS to provide a decent service to the British people,agree

Abolition of all “stealth taxes” and other charges on household rubbish collections, agree

Removing unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground, disagree

Making all benefits and social housing only available to British citizens, diagree

Only committing British armed forces when British national interests are at stake, disagree

Closing all foreign military bases on British soil, disagree

Resolutely oppose the single European currency, agree

Support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures, agree

and Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws which prevent people from making a free choice. agree

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:51
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I'd rather be a boring XXXXXX than a embarrassingly thick coward who doesn't even understand the policies of the party he desperately defends like you, MADMICK.

[^]

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 23:51
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Wiggler, thanks for clearing that up. I can see where they're coming from. Once a refugee has found a safe haven, then why should they need to come here?

If the Tories had listed those policies that I agree with, I might reconsider my vote. The thing is, it's not just about those policies and those that I disagree with might prevent me from changing my vote.

With the BNP, it's that leopard changing its spots scenario again. I'm cynical about what lies beneath some of their more "acceptable" policies. Once again the comparison with the more watered dcwn policies of the Nazis in the early 30s comes to mind. They didn't say they were going to build all these death camps and kill millions of Jews throughout Europe. I believe the BNP would most likely re-evaluate some of their more "moderate" policies if heaven forbid, they did gain a foothold in power.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:51
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Towell
"You must admit though Mick, you are genuinely a bit thick.

I mean I'm never offended by you or anything like that, just a bit embarrassed on occasion."

yeah im thick alright, that why i retired at 26 years of age!..keep up the good work and pay your taxes Einstien, im sure theres plenty of people willing to accept your hard earned handouts![;)][:D][:D]

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:52
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thanks proud, i belive the one where you said you dont know enough about the area, basically asylum seekers should seek asylum in the first free land they arrive, however at the moment the land travel thousands of miles stay in a french camp site and hitch a ride over here as they know they will be treated better, we cannot under law refuse them.
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You do know that we can refuse to grant asylum to people don't you?

yes i do know we can say no, however as soon as someone enters the uk and pleads asylum we have to investigate it and generally people are released and told to attend hearings and they are never seen again

Towell Posted on 04/05/2010 23:53
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Retiring early doesn't make you clever nor does paying your taxes make you daft.

Some people aren't sociopathic loners whos only pleasure is taking photo's of galaxies 10million light years away and taking your dog for a walk.


petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:55
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[:D] @ MADMICK making excuses.

MADMICK Posted on 04/05/2010 23:55
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O..dont worry PD..i understand the BNP policies right enough..i also understand they wind you up to f00k!!...thats something else i have in common with the BNP then, eh![:D]LOL

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 04/05/2010 23:58
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"Not an insult just clearing it up"

Wiggler, nowt insulting about that at all. No problem. [^]

Mick, so you have reservations about a lot of their policies, then?

Anyhow, I'm tired and need to go to bed. Goodnight to one and all, whatever your political views are. It's been a lively, but reasonably civilised debate.

petedreadnought Posted on 04/05/2010 23:58
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Some people aren't sociopathic loners whos only pleasure is taking photo's of galaxies 10million light years away and taking your dog for a walk.
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Taking photos of the sky isn't that bad, I mean not when you compare it to him masturbating over some bloke on YouTube who lives on the other side of the planet.

wiggler Posted on 04/05/2010 23:59
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Wiggler, thanks for clearing that up. I can see where they're coming from. Once a refugee has found a safe haven, then why should they need to come here?

If the Tories had listed those policies that I agree with, I might reconsider my vote. The thing is, it's not just about those policies and those that I disagree with might prevent me from changing my vote.

With the BNP, it's that leopard changing its spots scenario again. I'm cynical about what lies beneath some of their more "acceptable" policies. Once again the comparison with the more watered dcwn policies of the Nazis in the early 30s comes to mind. They didn't say they were going to build all these death camps and kill millions of Jews throughout Europe. I believe the BNP would most likely re-evaluate some of their more "moderate" policies if heaven forbid, they did gain a foothold in power.


Agree with you but all parties say the things you want to here and dont say the others, for example the tories mention all the time they will cap imigration they are trying to jump on the back of public feeling but have not once said want they want to cap it to, they have also said they will ban the national insurance increase but have not said where money will come from, the libs have said we will raise money from not renewing trident and will get rid of nuclear power stations, but have not said what they will replace our defences with and labour well i think they are being too honest and are letting everyone know everything is going up, this is why people get interested when the bnp comes with outlandish comments and ideas, personnaly i would get rid of either our european membership or all of our law courts as i am sick of seeing people appealing to brussels and our judges being overruled at the cost of millions

MADMICK Posted on 05/05/2010 00:00
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Towell, its called..leisure..its what people who dont HAVE to go to work, do with thier time, it sort of passes the twighlight hours away before i go to bed and dream about how much money im making while im asleep..from doyles like YOU that go to work!!!HARHARHARHAR!! [^][:D]

Yeah..im a thick chunt alright![:P][:D]


petedreadnought Posted on 05/05/2010 00:00
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MADMICK, you'd struggle to wind up a clock and I mean that literally.

[:D]

Only_Me Posted on 05/05/2010 00:00
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" It might have been on Sky. He was quizzed by Boulton the debt figure that was in the BNP's manifesto, which was no where near."

It may well have been Boulton. Either way though, slightly unfair when he hasn't really gone for the bigger fish with a hook to match.

Towell Posted on 05/05/2010 00:02
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No Mick you're just the dole waller fantasist with nothing better to do with his time.


petedreadnought Posted on 05/05/2010 00:04
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Well, Only_Me, I suppose so, but it does pale in comparison to the crap flung at the Lib Dems and New Labour from Sky. They, well at least the Lib Dems, don't know the exact figure of debt, but this is insignificant to the issues that Sky can pressure them on.

petedreadnought Posted on 05/05/2010 00:08
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Is MADMICK a dole-waller?

[:D]

MADMICK Posted on 05/05/2010 00:08
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ProudToComeFromTeesside, of course i have reservations, but which party does any voter have 100% confidence in thier policies?.

If there were certain things i could make amendments to, it would be, that no person would be "forced" to leave this country..not that the BNP have said they would be.

Immigration into the country would still continue, but at a much lower rate and only by people with skills we actually NEED.

Absolutely no unskilled workers allowed in as we have enough of those already over here.

i would'nt stop having overseas bases for the forces altho i WOULD bring the troops out of Afganistan.

Persoanlly, i woul;d like a government that tried to find some way of reducing the size of the average families in this country, this country is far to overpopulated and so is the world.
I would deffinately stop giving aid to foriegn countries that spend thier own money on nuclear weapons and spce programs, altho i would like to see all the richer countries of the world working as one in our exploration of space.
I'd also ban dickheads like peterdreadnaught from gaining access to the internet.
my you, he does have me in stitches at times when he spouts his drivel! [^][:D][:D]

MADMICK Posted on 05/05/2010 00:11
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"Is MADMICK a dole-waller?"

That just shows what a dumb chunt you really are PD...dont you realise, if i was...numbnuts like you would be going to work to keep me in booze![^][:D]...DOYLE! LOL

Towell Posted on 05/05/2010 00:12
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To be fair he might be a cut above the average doley he's probably claiming disability for the time he slipped his disk and could claim retirement from 26.

petedreadnought Posted on 05/05/2010 00:14
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MADMICK, how do you feel about people living in England being able to communicate in English?

[:D]

MADMICK Posted on 05/05/2010 00:16
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O well..best go take my poochy for walkies, you kids get to bed, work (MAWHARHARHAR[:D]) in the morning dont forget[;)]

speak soon...[8D]

ps nice to hold a sensible debate PTCFT and Wiggler[^]...shame some of the other DOYLES cant act like adults, but, what do you expect from labour supporters![:D]

Seeya later OM...Onwards and Upwards for the Tree Huggers[^][:D]

MADMICK Posted on 05/05/2010 00:18
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"MADMICK, how do you feel about people living in England being able to communicate in English?"

You find me someone who can speak English and i'll have a bash for ya![;)][:D]

Only_Me Posted on 05/05/2010 00:19
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" Well, Only_Me, I suppose so, but it does pale in comparison to the crap flung at the Lib Dems and New Labour from Sky. They, well at least the Lib Dems, don't know the exact figure of debt, but this is insignificant to the issues that Sky can pressure them on."

Agreed but then labour as an out-going administration should be hauled over the coals on their policies over the last 13 years and the lib dems should be just as robustly questioned about everything while there is a chance that they may have a large say in our country. We are entitled to know what to expect, though of course, nothing said by any of the parties in the run up to the election is legally binding, so I don't suppose it makes any odds really. Just as a personal thing, I'd like to see politicians of all hues telling the truth. Pie in the sky day dream, I know but I can live in hope.

petedreadnought Posted on 05/05/2010 00:21
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Seems fundamental to your beliefs, yet you struggle yourself.

When you retired you should have gone back to school, son.

[^]

petedreadnought Posted on 05/05/2010 00:25
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To be fair he might be a cut above the average doley he's probably claiming disability for the time he slipped his disk and could claim retirement from 26.
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Either way he's lazy, work-shy scum. Makes it even more laughable given that the BNP and Griffin despise his type.

libardi Posted on 05/05/2010 00:28
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The positive thing from this thread is that supporters of this fascist party are thankfully in the small minority in Britain.

Let's keep it that way and do our bit to make sure this ridiculous party and their poisonous policies don't gain any more ground, by voting for a party (left, centre or right) with realistic policies reflective of an international society that we live in.

Use yer vote wisely peeps! Goodnight

Only_Me Posted on 05/05/2010 00:30
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Night night Mick [:D] laters fella [smi]

wiggler Posted on 05/05/2010 00:30
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Is he voting BNP though, i dont follow his threads but has he said that is the way he is voting or is it like most on here a wind up

FaslaneRed Posted on 05/05/2010 09:25
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

I agree with quite a few of their policies myself if i'm honest. However, I haven't voted for them, or anyone else for that matter. I'm surprised at just how touchy people get over the subject. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and vote... [^]

Not_Smog Posted on 05/05/2010 11:41
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

FAO MADMICK.

Hello Mick,

I have a question i'd like to ask you, baring in mind you have issued your strongest support for the BNP and their policys I would like to understand why.

The reason for this is you have also expressed your belief in the whole 2012, end of the world, conspiriloon rubbish.

My question is, as you believe that the world will either end or suffer some catastrophic event around the end of 2012, why are you so passionate about the BNP/anti immigration policies?

What difference does it make if we're all f*cked anyway?

billywoofslovechild Posted on 05/05/2010 12:23
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

The BNP's figure head, Winston Churchill if i am not mistaken was his mother not an American and was he born in the USA.


MADMICK Posted on 05/05/2010 15:45
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Not_Smog....Probably for the same reason some people take everything they read on this message board seriously[;)]

Urban_Legend Posted on 14/06/2010 12:49
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Like this one?

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 14/06/2010 12:56
The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?

'The BNP - a wolf in sheep's clothing?'

The clothes are see through.

Horrible people. Fascism isn't a friendly movement, it's built on hatred. They need scapegoats to be succesful.