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Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 12:47
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Over 50 killings a day, and is known as the crime capital of the world. Not to mention the racial tension there with farmers been killed for fun. I can see a bloodbath happening.

BarnesBoroFC Posted on 03/05/2010 12:52
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

think of the boost to the black market economy

MFC1967 Posted on 03/05/2010 13:00
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

think of the boost to the black market economy


Its a multiculural market now [:D]

Buddy Posted on 03/05/2010 13:09
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

[rle] It must be a different South Africa that successfully stages international cricket and rugby every year and was picked for the IPL last year when India couldn't host it?

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 13:12
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

One thing Buddy, compare Football fans behaviour with Cricket and Rugby fans

Doink Posted on 03/05/2010 14:12
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Everyone knows there is a crime problem in SA but the vast majority of tourists are careful and therefore ok. Any football fans who go out there and behave likeXXXXXXs deserve everything they get to be honest.

Piggy Posted on 03/05/2010 14:15
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

I tend to behave better when I'm at the football than I do at cricket or rugby.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to a week in Rustenburg. Africa getting the World Cup was long overdue.

Space_Face Posted on 03/05/2010 14:16
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

How many killings are there each day in USA?

wokingmassive Posted on 03/05/2010 14:20
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

I read an article the other day about a taxi driver being killed for the equivilant of 50 pence.

Oh dear.

Also there is a massive increase in predicted in the spread of AIDS.

I agree - it was not a very clever idea to have it there.


[:I]

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 14:20
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"How many killings are there each day in USA?"

And that matters why ?

Bernie_was_right Posted on 03/05/2010 14:21
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Political correctness i`m afraid. It had to be given to an African country, and SA was the only place realistically capable of holding it.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 14:22
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the spread of AIDS in the opening post.

Well done FIFA [^]

Piggy Posted on 03/05/2010 14:24
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Political correctness [:D]

Its the WORLD Cup, you have to share it around.

Borocelt Posted on 03/05/2010 14:25
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

I don't really see that it'll be too much of a problem. I do wonder where the next African one will go.... Egypt?

Space_Face Posted on 03/05/2010 14:26
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Zimbabwe

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 14:26
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"Political correctness [:D]

Its the WORLD Cup, you have to share it around"

Yes, great idea, let AIDS spread round the world [^]

Piggy Posted on 03/05/2010 14:28
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Well unless you can catch it from looking at lions through binoculars I'm not too worried about it.

It isnt compulsory to rattle a hooker at half time you know.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 14:30
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Try telling that to the idiots that will, putting people from this country health at risk because of it

SplendidStuff Posted on 03/05/2010 14:34
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

complete idiocy, you cannot use AIDS as a reason for not holding a sporting event there [:o)]



Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 14:38
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

What about AIDS on top of violence and complete racial hatred with some people [?]

Piggy Posted on 03/05/2010 14:39
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

That would rule us out for 2018 then AH.

SplendidStuff Posted on 03/05/2010 14:50
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

I wouldnt use AIDS as a reason full stop.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/05/2010 15:05
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

[:D]

Excellent wind-up Anonymous_Hero.

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 03/05/2010 15:55
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

africa is XXXXXX. the food is XXXXXX, its too hot, the music is XXXXXX, it's corrupt as hell, full of religious fanatics, wars all over the shop. everyone has made a right mess of their country. they've really XXXXXXed it up big style over there.
but the one reason they should never have given the world cup to africa is the vuvuzela. the only sound in football more annoying than the sheff weds band.
hopefully all the simpletons who usually turn up and blow these things will be priced out of attending.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/05/2010 16:00
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Have you ever been to Africa SJB?

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 03/05/2010 16:03
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

of course not. its XXXXXX.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/05/2010 16:04
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Thought as much.

It's not Africa that's full of XXXXXX - it's you.

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 03/05/2010 16:06
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

whats so good about africa then?

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 16:10
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Nelson Mandela ?

the_elf_unit Posted on 03/05/2010 16:11
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

ewre you talking about africa or america there sjb?

sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 03/05/2010 16:15
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

america is incomparably better than africa. they have one of the biggest economies in the world and one of the greatest cultures. ok, there are a few right wing arseholes there, but when they watch a sporting occasion at least they do not ruin it for everyone by blowing into a tuneless plastic trumpet.

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 16:27
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

One thing Buddy, compare Football fans behaviour with Cricket and Rugby fans
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So if the problem is down to football fans then it doesn't matter where it is held.

SA host plenty of other major sporting events without problems so why not the World Cup?

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 16:29
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"One thing Buddy, compare Football fans behaviour with Cricket and Rugby fans
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So if the problem is down to football fans then it doesn't matter where it is held.

SA host plenty of other major sporting events without problems so why not the World Cup?"

Because Football fans will provoke locals no doubt and it will escalate from there

subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/05/2010 16:33
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

So it's football fans that are the problem then?


The_last_person_to_post Posted on 03/05/2010 16:33
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"america is incomparably better than africa. they have one of the biggest economies in the world"

Not for much longer.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 16:35
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"So it's football fans that are the problem then?"

No it's everything, Football fans just make it worse

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 16:35
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Anonymous-Hero, your argument is becoming weaker and weaker the more you post.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 16:36
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Oh yes, because the argument of people's lives is a weak one [rle]

zorro_mfc Posted on 03/05/2010 16:38
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Buddy is right but those events were small beer compared to a nationwide event like the world cup, unlike isolated test matches and lions games the world cup is on a whole new level.

During the pre world cup draw one man was killed shot on the golf course at the FIFA hotel and 3 people inc oliver bierhoff were robbed, this was just for the pre world cup groupings draw.

zorro_mfc Posted on 03/05/2010 16:40
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

As for the Q in the OP it was sep blatter and his depevndency on the african vote for FIFA's top job, this is the real reason. Blatters legacy.

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 16:41
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Please. Your whole argument hinges upon your assertion that SA shouldn't host the World Cup because of football fans. It's that ridiculous.

The Confederations Cup went without problem, the biggest talking point was the Vuvuzelas, not scores of people getting killed, or battered, or infected with HIV/AIDS.

zorro_mfc Posted on 03/05/2010 16:45
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

The Confederations Cup went without problem

not quite true as the infrastructure was horrendous and the journo's covering it were less than impressed.

The worry for me is the way the local police chief has all but admitted that they have insufficient numbers to control both so they will effectively create green zones with police in them for the world cup and the rest will largely be a lawless free for all.

This decision to give SA the world cup was political not sport based although I do think it's nice to see the game in africa.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 16:48
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"Please. Your whole argument hinges upon your assertion that SA shouldn't host the World Cup because of football fans. It's that ridiculous.

The Confederations Cup went without problem, the biggest talking point was the Vuvuzelas, not scores of people getting killed, or battered, or infected with HIV/AIDS."

The confederations cup is like the FA vase compared to the world cup. Many, many more people will be their.

And the Football fans are part of the problem. They will be either targets of theft, or provoking locals who will not think twice to kill

zorro_mfc Posted on 03/05/2010 16:49
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Fifa have made contingency plans if SA couldn't cope though they have plans to switch it to england as they know we have everything in place at short notice.

Not a wind up by the way but a reality.

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 16:51
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

So was there any problems regarding violence which was linked to the hosting of the Confederations Cup then, zorro?

Anonymous-Hero's main concern is clearly nothing at all to do with local infrastructure, but the fact that SA presents a problem for the welfare of people.

zorro_mfc Posted on 03/05/2010 16:54
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Not widely reported but yes several pressmen were robbed and yes FIFA were less than impressed with it and SA admitted lessons would need to be learned for this summer so in a word yes.


petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 16:54
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

The confederations cup is like the FA vase compared to the world cup. Many, many more people will be their.

And the Football fans are part of the problem. They will be either targets of theft, or provoking locals who will not think twice to kill
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Your excuses are getting incredibly thin now. There were still football fans at the Confederations Cup, they were still vulnerable people and east targets.

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 03/05/2010 16:55
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"The Confederations Cup went without problem

not quite true as the infrastructure was horrendous and the journo's covering it were less than impressed."

Journo's complain about the train journey to Middlesbrough but it was a World Cup venue.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 16:56
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

And the point is ?

More fans = more targets, its simple

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 16:57
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Anonymous-Hero, where do you think the World Cup should have been held then this year?

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 16:59
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Anywhere in the World ? Other than Europe ?

zorro_mfc Posted on 03/05/2010 17:01
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

It's brazils tuen next

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 17:03
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

No, in one of the nations that put forward a bid: Egypt, Morocco or South Africa.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 17:04
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Morocco then

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 17:08
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Interesting choice given the Islamic terrorist organisations that operate in Morocco.

subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/05/2010 17:08
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Morocco - are you joking?

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 17:11
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

More of a safe bet than 100s of local gangs wondering the streets. Its a much safer bet than SA if the policing is right

subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/05/2010 17:30
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

The terrorist threat in Morocco would be significant.

It is no way a safer bet.

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 17:31
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

I guess being vaporised by suicide bombers is better than getting bum-raped, robbed and then executed.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 17:33
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Not much chose from with SA, Morocco and Egypt. But to me Morocco would have been the best of the 3

subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/05/2010 17:35
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

Thank God you had no input then. [:D]

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 03/05/2010 17:37
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

I know thank god, I would have just gave it to England [;)]

jeff_potato Posted on 03/05/2010 18:49
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

But on the positive side, FIFA's no nonsense copyright enforcement has provided work for Johannesburg's law firms.

I also saw in the Observer's brilliant 'Said and Done' sports column that Sepp Blatter has gained a wonderfully jewelled ring for playing his part in bringing the FIFA World Cup (Registered Trademark) to SA.

Senor_Chester Posted on 03/05/2010 19:01
Who's genius idea was it to give SA the world cup ?

"Fifa have made contingency plans if SA couldn't cope though they have plans to switch it to england as they know we have everything in place at short notice.
Not a wind up by the way but a reality."

The backup venue is always the last place it was held, so if it did go t1ts up it would be held in Germany.

zorro_mfc Posted on 03/05/2010 19:46
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Not so as the Fa admitted that FIFA has asked how soon they could host the event.

Blatter puts England on standby to host 2010 World CupLast updated at 15:44 30 April 2007

The Football Association have signalled England's readiness to host the 2010 World Cup should FIFA be forced to strip South Africa of the tournament.
There have been reports of delays in stadium construction work which threatened hopes of the event being staged on the African continent for the first time.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter has indicated England remains a contingency option and, while the FA insist there have been no discussions with the sport's world governing body, they are ready to assist.
An FA spokesman said: "We understand South Africa remain on course to host the 2010 World Cup, and there have been no discussions with FIFA regarding England possibly hosting the tournament.

"However, should there be requirements for any contingency planning, we believe that England has some of the finest stadia in the world and the football infrastructure which could host the 2010 World Cup at short notice, if asked to by FIFA."
The spokesman added that he did not believe hosting the 2010 tournament would affect a prospective bid for the 2018 event.





Link: Link in full from 2007

petedreadnought Posted on 03/05/2010 19:48
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So it's not just England but others too.

[rle]