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gazza88 Posted on 01/03/2010 22:20
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dunno if this has been posted already but i was shocked when i seen this,
dunno if many of the strachen fans will say they are happy with how he has performed so far but apparenty gibbo is
clearly he didnt want us back in the prem strait away sadly

Ayresomes_on_Fire Posted on 01/03/2010 22:38
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I suspect he had done a lot of sorting out behind the scenes that has pleased Gibbo..!!

Sitrep Posted on 01/03/2010 22:43
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Boro happy with strach


Iím ecstatic. 3 more years

Bandy Posted on 02/03/2010 10:41
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I'm happy - carry on as you were Gordon

captain5 Posted on 02/03/2010 11:01
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Not delighted but he's done a lot of the things that most fans had identified as being a problem.

I had nightmare visions of Southgate continuing this season and us ending up about 18th after an encouraging start, due to not bringing in good enough forwards and midfielders and muddling through.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 02/03/2010 12:36
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Over the moon, we couldn't have got a better man.

London_Boro Posted on 02/03/2010 15:07
Boro happy with strach

Was excited when he was announced as manager, and still very happy he's here.

About time we had a manager with fight, passion and charisma! He's had a lot to do since he was appointed and has done things efficiently and sensibly.

OK the results have been a bit frustrating but they'll come. I didn't think we'd get promotion this year, it's still a slight possibility if we put a few more wins together. But for me, it's all about making a serious challenge next season when he has the team HE wants in place!

Easy Posted on 02/03/2010 15:28
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Jesus wept... He's been a disaster! We'd be comfortably top 6 if Southgate was still here in my opinion.

It's took Strachan over 20 games to get as many points as Southgate got in the first 13 games of the season. He speaks utter rubbish, and treats journalists with contempt because he hasn't got the intelligence to come up with an insightful, knowledgable answer to a question. Instead he comes back with one word answers in an attempt to make the reporter look stupid.

We've started to pick up a few home wins, but the fayre has been absolutely terrible. QPR were the better team, Plymouth should have come away with a draw. We're still not scoring goals even though he has brought 4 or 5 different forwards in since he arrived.

Happy? Yeah delighted... [|)]

Boromart Posted on 02/03/2010 15:45
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"It's took Strachan over 20 games to get as many points as Southgate got in the first 13 games of the season."
I'll answer that in typical Strachan one word style....HUTH.

"he hasn't got the intelligence to come up with an insightful, knowledgable answer to a question." -- You would prefer the intelligent, media-friendly Southgate instead....that served us well didn't it!

tom_mate Posted on 02/03/2010 15:49
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Southgate wouldn't of strengthened the squad like Gordon has in January, he would of tried...but failed.

The players Strachan has brought in are by no means world beaters and possibly not even premiership quality, but they seem to be the right people for this job and I don't think Southgate could of attracted any of them to come here.

MightyDuck Posted on 02/03/2010 15:50
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gareth would have learned lessons though

Algarve Posted on 02/03/2010 15:54
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Easy you are spot on mate, but except for Bandy they all said it from day one, he is the man, his performance here has been nothing short of disaster, but they arent big enough to back down, 5 wins in 21 games or something, but the dressing room floors these days are cleaner, they hang on to anything !!!!!

Easy Posted on 02/03/2010 15:58
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Southgate lost Huth after 4 games but still managed to keep us a point off the Geordies.

Algarve, spot on mate. If Southgate had been through Strachans run of results they'd be burning effigies of him at the Riverside.

Happy?? [V]

AlBoro1984 Posted on 02/03/2010 16:09
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"Algarve, spot on mate. If Southgate had been through Strachans run of results they'd be burning effigies of him at the Riverside."

I take it you didn't watch us much last season.

When was the last time Southgate won 3 home games in a row? Strachan has given our team some backbone. Its how all good managers build teams, solidify the spine then start adding the creativity.

We'd go no where under Southgate. Started well sure....we did that last season too, look how it ended. We were still rolling over and dying at home this season under Southgate, Leicester, Watford etc at least now we can play sh-it and win.

QPR may have outplayed us but who gives a XXXXXX? They reminded me of us under Southgate, some nice tip tappy football but no bite and easily outmuscled. I'll take the points everytime thanks.

Algarve Posted on 02/03/2010 16:10
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HE has lost 10 games from 21 , but we have improved the quality of the training kit,,, and the tea in the changing rooms is now so much better, yes we bought some useless no names from Scotland that destroyed any sort of flair and fan enjoyment we might have had !!! I honestly have no idea what they will come up with next !!!! Lost 10 games in 21 what the fuÁck will they come up with next ????

guyb Posted on 02/03/2010 16:11
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Very Happy so far.

If we don't go up this season - and it may be a blessing - then we will win this league next year with a couple of more judicious signings and finally shipping out the last of the lightweight, Arsenal of the North, crap - and be in a far stronger position to survive in the PL than this year.

Algarve Posted on 02/03/2010 16:14
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Very happy so far..... Why ???

AlBoro1984 Posted on 02/03/2010 16:16
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So we played with flair under Southgate did we? Must have missed all the free flowing football and goals last season. Home matches were just as poor this season, infact if we hadn't scraped past a pathetic Derby team (at the time) no one would have been mentioning this 1 point off top bollox because we'd have been mid table! Yes the league table was that congested that 3 points separated midtable and the top.

How do you think Southgate would have coped with losing Johnson? Strachan has clearly identified we need more creativity in midfield and is trying to address it. Southgate wouldn't have had a clue, he has let our midfield rot for over 2 years.


SidSnot Posted on 02/03/2010 16:17
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I think he has significantly under achieved to date. The points total and the size of the crowds suggest that's a reasonable position to take. However, it is too early to tell and he deserves until at least mid next season. Looks like we're going down the Stoke route though - although arguably it's the only way you can survive in the PL these days without bankrupting yourself if you're a club like us.

Algarve Posted on 02/03/2010 16:24
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Why do you all keep harping back to Southgate, he has gone get over it, if you replace you expect somehing better, sadly on performance and points ( plus loan sighings and money sighnings) this guy is having a laugh !!!

Peachy Posted on 02/03/2010 16:26
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He has had to start from scratch because southgate was always playing catch up and the club was heading into serious decline - its true no player would have joined southgate after we lost huth. We were on the brink and we are slowly putting things right behind the scenes and on the pitch. It will be a long difficult road but gordo is the best man for the job.

Algarve Posted on 02/03/2010 16:26
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To put it bluntly, i dont need to have a go at him, from a points and performance point he is asking for it !!!! he gives a fuÁk and is showing it !!!!

captain5 Posted on 02/03/2010 16:29
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I think we'd have ended up being about 18th or so if Gareth had continued.

He had us up to 7th last season and couldn't stop us sliding when we got into trouble.

He clearly had no idea about signings and had left us with a front three of Emnes, Ali and Lita; oh yeah and Caleb Folan. He also decided to spend most of the Huth money on St Ledger, which seemeed to be a big part of the defensive problems.

We were a rubbish side last season and the club had promised to make us a more experienced side this season. To do this he sold all the internationals and bought two 24 year olds and a reserve goalkeeper.

The old traits of his sides had started to emerge again with late goals conceded seemingly his speciality. It would have gone the same way and we'd be watching Julio and Digard in slow motion in between injury breaks.

laughingboroboy Posted on 02/03/2010 16:35
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Yes i am very happy [^]

easy- Im not looking for an argument as i cant be bothered, but your deluded you talk rubbish!

Easy Posted on 02/03/2010 16:39
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Alboro, it's more than obvious that last seasons failings were more Gibsons doing than Southgates. You cant compare form in the Premier League to form in the Championship.

Fact of the matter is, we are playing awful football, not scoring goals, and have lost far more games than is acceptable at this level. I dont rate Ian Holloway but he managed to outfox Strachan twice.

But if you lot are happy then crack on... [^]

Personally I'm disgusted at the way the club has gone from Promotion favourites and a point off top, to Play off hopefuls over 20 points behind the Geordies.

Yes lads... Strachan's having a blinder... [ref]

Easy Posted on 02/03/2010 16:43
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Your?? Surely you mean you're, old boy?

Illiterate twerp... [;)]

japsterboro Posted on 02/03/2010 16:45
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Capt'n fŁnf - Spot on[^]

TheSmogMonster Posted on 02/03/2010 16:49
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Reading through the posts I was going to make post of the points Captain 5 did.

He made them, so I don't have to.

laughingboroboy Posted on 02/03/2010 16:54
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Easy [;)] you love it!

Captain- just read yours and much like the above post i agree, your spot on!

gazza88 Posted on 03/03/2010 00:34
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ill be honest
i think with southgate here we wouldnt have lost johnson because i think he would be a better influence on aj cos hes looked up to him for 4/5 seasons as a captain then his gaffer
and
how can you blame southgate for wasting money on st ledger and folan yet no blame strachen for not replacing johnson
missing out on G.boyd missing out on caldwell etc
yea well balance argument wgs fans [^]

Chappy112 Posted on 03/03/2010 09:21
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"how can you blame southgate for wasting money on st ledger and folan yet no blame strachen for not replacing johnson
missing out on G.boyd missing out on caldwell etc "

That makes absolutely no sense.

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 09:31
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Johnson was leaving no matter what, it's just when (January for a fee or the summer for a tribunal fee).

Gareth had been manager for three years without him signing a long term contract and I can't believe Adam would've signed suddenly through some new level of respect.

As for the signings that have been made; St Ledger was a typical Southgate blunder, paying over the odds for someone who looks quite good at times but doesn't hack it, while Folan was another non-scoring striker.

Strachan didn't sign Caldwell, but signed McManus instead. He's only just missed out on Boyd. Sounds more like you're waiting for him to fail.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 09:33
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Waiting for him to fail? He is failing miserably...

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 09:39
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Champion's League next season when Gibson gives Strachan £150m for players in the summer . . . . . and he's going to time the last match such that we have to beat Leicester 8-0 on the last day to reach the play-offs . . . which we will do comfortably with this creative, hard working, free-scoring team

Sea_Harrier Posted on 03/03/2010 09:40
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Bear, have you taken your medication?[:D]

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 09:42
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There is a reason (let's be honest there's loads) why we got rid of Southgate, you know.

He's the worst manager we've had in a long term and if any manager can get us back to anywhere near what Gareth wrecked they'll be a hero.

Not_Smog Posted on 03/03/2010 09:44
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I'm not calling for his head but i'm far from happy with his start.

joebonano Posted on 03/03/2010 10:01
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I'm sick of hearing people go on about Southgate.He really should have gone in December.How the hell he wasnt sacked at the end of the season only Gibson can tell you.Forget him he's gone.
Strachan has had a very sticky start but if you look at the players brought into the club in January it gives you a little more confidence for the future.Obviously MacDonald has not yet delivered[there are reasons behind that] yet but nobody can deny Robson,Flood, McManus and Naughton have improved the squad.Killen has also done O.K.The only duffer so far has been Lee Miller who quite frankly has looked awful.
Strachan will be given the summer to complete his overhaul.I expect a further 6 or 7 inns and outs.Put the knives away until then if his team fails to deliver.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:14
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not sure how people can be happy with strachan at the moment. he came in sent us on a bad run of 9 games which has cost us a good chance of promotion. we still dont have any decent strikers or creaticity. he still hasnt beat a top 8 side.

he has next season to get it right otherwise he should go. i would have wanted him to go this season if he missed out on the playoffs, but i'm feeling in a good mood so giving him the benefit of the doubnt despite his early c@ck up when he came in.

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:28
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I didn't realise that you'd been so happy with how we were progressing under Gareth, sas.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:30
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gareth left us in a lot better position that strachan has now. no one expected strachan to make a worse job of it. everyone on here and including gibson expected promotion once strachan was appointed. he was the final piece of the jigsaw to get the best out of the players. first 9 games where a disaster and cost us promotion i reckon plus his inability to beat a top 8 side.

no one would have been happy if it was said that once strachan comes in we would be in a worses position in march. but now it seems goalposts have changed and failure to reach the play off or promotion is acceptable

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 10:33
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"Southgate would have left us in a better position"

It was down to him why we are in the championship in the first place

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 10:36
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Of course it is, gerd... It's all Gareths fault and nobody else is accountable at all! [|)]

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 10:38
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well he was the manager!

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:39
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I'll stick with my assertion that under Southgate we were on a downward curve, as we had been for a prolonged period.

Johnson would've still left in January and we'd be lower half of the table.

We'd have continued to leak late goals and learn lessons after every defeat.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:40
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strachan was doing a worse job than southgate with the same squad. that was something that no one was expecting.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 10:43
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I'm not having this downward curve bollox... He had us finish in the same position as Robbo and Mclaren managed! We've finished top half of the Premier League twice in our history! Southgate had less money to spend and still managed reasonable finishes in comparison to Robbo and Smac. The year we went down we were £500k in profit in the summer transfer window. Still... Carry on blaming a legend of this football club if it pleases you! [V]

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 10:45
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as a player = legend
as a manager - numpty

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:46
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I was hoping he would take things forward from where we were but he immediately took us backwards. Some managers say "Just go out and play your normal game" the first match . . . the fear of crossing the halfway line and over coaching with players watching the manager instead of the ball led to a defeat by bottom club Plymouth . . . results wise things are now looking better - a mid-table side instead of relegation fodder

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 10:46
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We'll have to agree to disagree...

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 10:47
Boro happy with strach

yep, me and probably 90%

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:48
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I genuinely don't understand how you can be happy with him getting us relegated.

He got reasonable finishes in the first couple of years but we were told to give him time as it still wasn't his team.

He made it his team, by getting rid of the last couple of members of the spine of Smac's team, didn't replace them adequately and we got relegated.

He had a team that leaked late goals like a metal-less sieve and couldn't motivate them to come from behind to win, which meant as soon as we went behind we were buried.

It's not about blame, it's about responsibility. That was his and he couldn't handle it.

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 10:50
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not to mention his bizarre team selections, poor motivitational skills and man management, lack of tactical nous, etc etc

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:53
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I presume it's Strachan you're talking about there? I thought Southgate was a poor manager but Strachan's selection policy and tactics have been a disaster.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 10:58
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P21 W6 D5 L10 is not good enough. wew have failed to score in 9 of those 21 games with him. just not good enough. his signing of strikers has been very dodgy too. he still hasnt brought in any creativity. bi dont think we have come from behind and beat a team under strachan.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 11:07
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I'm not denying that Gareth made mistakes! However, I still believe that given this season he would have become a really good manager. I'm not having this motivational stuff. He dragged us out of a relegation battle when Mclaren was in charge. Gareth was the one that got the players together and united them, not Smac.

He was given very little money in which to replace the players that left in the summer of 2008. Blame the Chairman and Chief exec... They've XXXXXXed the club up good and proper!

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 11:11
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So you'd rather bring back southgate?

fck me [|)]

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 11:14
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I agree he was given not enough money to spend, so why did he go and spunk it all on Digard and Emnes??

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 11:15
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I'd have Gareth back immediately. It'll never happen but I'd much rather have Gareth in charge that this condescending twit! Didn't you know, according to Strachan our opinions are worthless as we've never 'been in the game'...

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 11:17
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rather have gareth back

[:D][:D][:D]

heard it all now

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 11:17
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"I'd have Gareth back immediately."

[:D][:D][:D]

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, your credibility will be flying out of the window at approximately 400mph today.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 11:18
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I'll repeat myself... I'm not denying that Gareth made mistakes!

Given that we earned £10 million in the summer of 2008, and the average spend for a Premier League club must be between 7-12 million, another 7-10 million would have seen us safe.

Obviously the Chairman thought his golf course and hotel were the priority... Good call!

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 11:20
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And I really care about my 'credibility' on this board... It's full of numpties that don't know their arse from their elbow... [ref]

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 11:22
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like you..

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 11:24
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So why, with such a limited budget, did he buy two players in Digard and Emnes one with an appalling injury record and the other he didn't even give a chance to until the back end of the season??

Surely, if you're going to cry foul on his budget, you should be biding your time with Strachan, on the basis that he's on a negative transfer spend at the moment.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 11:29
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Aye... That's why I get best caller everytime I go on the phone in, son... [;)]

jenga Posted on 03/03/2010 11:30
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When Strachan was appointed i wasn't overly impressed but i thought he would come in and get the team playing again. I was thinking that we would keep mainly the same squad and just bring in a couple of additions! Instead we got a wholesale squad change which has improved us in terms of endeavour but left us devoid of any attacking creativity. The result so has been effective but scrappy, boring football which is rubbish to watch. Happy that we appear to be grinding out results but the standard of football is dire! Hopefully that will be addressed soon.

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 11:31
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alves £13m
Mido £6m
Digard £4m
Emnes £3m
Aliadiere £2m
Oneil £5m
Woodgate £7m
Hoyte £3m

hewielewie Posted on 03/03/2010 11:34
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I am sick of all this "one point of top" bollox by some people who don't seem to understand how a league system works.

I will make it simple.

Each team plays each other twice over a season. Once home and away. There are 3 point for a win and 1 for a drawer. At the end of the season the position you are in is the one you deserve to be in (unless you are West Ham of course).

The table doesn't lie at the end of the season but it sure as hell can lie a quarter of the way in. But if, for some of you, it doesn't lie a quarter of the way in then we were only 2 points off 9th at the same time we were 1 point off top.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 11:38
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Gerd, just so you fully understand...

Summer 2008

Out:
Cattermole £3.5 million
Boateng £1 million
Luke Young £6 million

Total = £10.5 million

In:
Digard £4 million
Emnes £3 million
Hoyte £2.5 million

Total = £9.5 million

Does that clear it up for you? Probably not...

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 11:39
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+ Alves £13m which was out of summer budget

= £22.5

southgate was still crap

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 11:41
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Summer budget? It was the Yakubu money... And lets not forget, according to the Chief Exec we were close to signing Fred and Wagner Love as well! Wonder where that £20 million went...

skiprat Posted on 03/03/2010 12:00
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Taking the thread back on track and discussing STRACHAN, I don't see how many of us can't think it's been a big disappointment so far.

I certainly didn't expect us to look so poor under him, we've still got a team that can't score and while I think we will definitely improve under him, he's certainly been a disappointment in his first 20/21 games.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 12:04
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we can harp back to last season(btw didnt strachan get a team relegated from the premier league) but as skiprat says it is about this season and how strachan has done since he came in. i remember on here everyone was expecting us to get promoted automatically once he came in. it is questionable if we would have done any worse under southgate. there probably isnt much in it. but now we are paying double wages because we have two managers on the payrole.

strachans record is barely about a relegation position and not good enough.

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 12:12
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Why would you complain about a hark back to last season and then mention Strachan's relegation from ancient history??

You don't remember everyone expecting us to get automatically promoted, because that wasn't the case. Surely threads like this and the many people who inherently don't like Strachan tells you that.

You're not blaming Strachan for us continuing to pay Southgate are you??

For me, he's had a poor start with Southgate's squad and what he could cobble together out of loan signings. We're starting to look more solid, certainly less likely to concede vital late goals but we're lacking creativity.

I'm giving him until next season as I want to see what he does in the summer in terms of ins and outs and how we look after a pre-season, to see whether Gareth really didn't have the players fit enough.

gazza88 Posted on 03/03/2010 12:50
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End of the day i dont think any one even strach fans can say there HAPPY with how he has started

and i meant every one blames southgate for his poor signings, yet blames lamb for the players we missed out on....everybody knows alves WASNT a southgate signing.
however you can tell every player strachen has signed was his signing. if he ventures to scotland again in the summer to buy players i will worry for out chances of promotion again becuase the scottish players lack flair.
the loan window has been open for 2 weeks and he clearly doesnt think we need anyone or he woulda been pushing big time for the signing of george boyd

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 12:52
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Posh wanted too much money for Boyd up front for the loan part of the deal.

He's ok, but if we spent a load on him now and still missed out on the Play Offs, which is likely, it would be a waste.

Evil Posted on 03/03/2010 12:58
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Captain why are you bothering?

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 12:59
Boro happy with strach

*looks at work sat on desk*

*looks back at computer screen*

Evil Posted on 03/03/2010 13:03
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Mmmm, seriously flogging a dead horse though and its more hassle than its worth.

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 13:04
Boro happy with strach

It's good fun.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 13:06
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I can relate, Captain... [^]

Gillandi Posted on 03/03/2010 14:28
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"I think we'd have ended up being about 18th or so if Gareth had continued."


Taking "fun" to new levels there Capt. [:D]

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:31
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good job we never had strachan at the start of the season because we would be about 20th now and 3 points from a relegation place!be thankful of southgate

Gillandi Posted on 03/03/2010 14:39
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Sasboro - You argued against Southgate's abilities and record throughout his reign as manager here, as you did with all his predecessors. Hate em when theyre hands on, rate em when theyre hands gone. Your view of Strachan will also improve overnight when we appoint his replacement in a year or two's time.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:43
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i dont think southgate did a particular good job in the premier league but in the championship compared to strachan he did ok this season. i just think strachan isnt doing as good a job as he should be. as a minimum he should have been able to get better results with southgate's squad. And i can't understand anyone being happy with what strachan has achieved. strachan isnt meeting the standards that gibson wanted when he gave reasons for sacking southgate. so really when you think about it strachan should go in the summer. he is making a pigs ear if it. probably made the job harder than it needed to be.

we really cant afford a poor season next year. we have to get promoted and if we dont improve by end of this season then strachan's position should be questioned by gibson just like with southgate

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:45
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You're suggesting that if Strachan had taken over and been able to sell and bring in new players over the summer, we'd now be 20th??

Gillandi Posted on 03/03/2010 14:49
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Shame we couldnt sack a manager every 3 months Sas, i'd be interested to know if that'd be enough to satisfy your blood lust. [:D]

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 14:49
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Not often that I agree with sas... [^]

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:50
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I haven't a clue where we'd be . . . . but I'm happy Southgate gave us a start to avoid relegation this season and I'll be happy with 20th next season rather than relegation to League 1. The "Alves is great" (now "Strachan is great") fans will have seen the reality by then

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:50
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Well, that's the idea of his posts.

As it has been here and elsewhere for about 15 years.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:52
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i think 30 games is a good time to judge the impact of a manager. 20 games is a good time to see if he has made things any better. we cant afford to wait 3-4 seasons this time. we have to get up before the parachute payments run out otherwise we lose any advantage.

problem strachan is having the same problems southgate had even though he has brought in loads of players. the worry is he spends the summer changing it again and makes no difference.

we have been through 34 players this season which is way to much for a team to want to get promoted

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:53
Boro happy with strach

Yeah, whenever I see people who think Strachan is great (even though I haven't actually seen anyone has seriously said that) I immediately bracket them with people who liked Alves.


captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 14:54
Boro happy with strach

But we would have been 20th if he'd had chance to take the relegated side and start the season??

I know you'd love to clarify your position on this.

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 15:06
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I do understand the thing about using too many players though.

Or I would do if Newcastle hadn't also used 34 players.

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 15:10
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Are you saying they have got a better manager than us to be top having so many changes?

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 15:13
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I'm not saying anything of the sort, in fact I'm not offering an opinion on why.

I'm just saying that using so many players can't be the reason, as sas appears to be suggesting. WBA have only used 2 fewer as well.

If Forest don't go up automatically will it be that they've used too few??

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 15:30
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Man U use a lot of players . . . because they've got better players. We have sold our best 4 players and have a weaker squad than NU or WBA. The more successful weaker teams keep the teamsheet as stable as possible.

Southgate was also guilty in this respect . . . after a reasonable run of results (and performances) including the Liverpool win, he brought Shawky into the team from nowhere . . . who then lost his marker for their underserved goal.

Strachan has outdone Southgate in terms of meddling

LisburnDeadend Posted on 03/03/2010 15:31
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hewielewie, do you really think that when two teams cancel each other out it's called a "drawer"?

FFS [:D][cr][8D][:o)]

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 15:42
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He hasn't done as much meddling as Southgate if only because most of his meddling has been the same as his and he hasn't been here that long.

There is a difference between trying new things because you don't know the players and swapping things around after you've ran out of ideas after a couple of years.

If we get a formation similar to the one we had at Arsenal away at one point last season, then we'll know he's lost the plot.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 15:46
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Strachan is probably the best manager we have ever had apart from Jack Charlton and Bruce Rioch.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 15:48
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And what exactly do you base that opinion on, Lisbon? What a load of tripe... [ref]

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 15:49
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I used to to think you were a Strachan supporter LL . . . . . nice bit of sarcasm . . .

captain5 Posted on 03/03/2010 15:50
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Not sure where you're coming from with the Shawky thing.

We had beaten Liverpool but we'd played three games after that (one in the Cup), only getting a single draw (or drawer *cough*) before Shawky came in.

Shawcross scored from a long ball into the box, so not sure whether that would be Shawky's man.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 15:51
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I base that on his previous career, his fantastic interviews and also the way he is slowly turning round a relegated team with no balls into one that looks like it can scrap and is learning to win ugly. Once it clicks up front we will be absolutely fine.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 15:54
Boro happy with strach

[|)]

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 16:00
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Not sure why the sad face, he has turned our home record around recently even though the performances haven't been sparkling, the points have been vital.

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 16:08
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Cardiff is the BIG match that could decide whether we get into the play-offs or not (at their expense). Blackpool and Forest were also BIG matches, but we failed miserably at Blackpool and were a tad unlucky versus Forest. Southgate generally failed in the BIG matches (apart from wins over Chelsea and Liverpool) . . . and so, is Strachan a big match winner?

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 16:10
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I don't think we failed massively against Blackpool, if we'd have scored the pen we would have taken something but I agree, Cardiff is a massive match.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 16:12
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The points have been vital? Turned things around? He's having a full on nightmare. [ref]

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 16:14
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he has turned our away form into jelly w2 d2 L6. needs to improve if we want to make the playoffs

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 16:17
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"if we'd have scored the pen"

But that is what determines the success or failure of the manager. Who was the penalty taker? Why the messing about? Getting a draw there would have been massive (and it wouldn't have been such a miserable drive home)

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 16:26
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People miss penalties all the time, I am sure McDonald has missed very few in his career. It's a marathon not a sprint, Southgate had us down on our knees and Strachan is trying to pull us up by our boot laces. The only way is up under wee Gordon..

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 16:28
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Utter crap I'm afraid! We were playing well under Southgate. Since Strachan took the reigns it's gone completely pear shaped. If you cant see that then you must be blind...

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 16:29
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As I said earlier, great sarcasm . . . . .

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 16:31
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Playing well under Southgate.[:D] Cos we didn't lose our Premiership status and got gubbed at home by West Brom, Watford and leicester. Awesome.[;)]

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 16:33
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Gubbed? Not familiar with that term... On the whole, the performances during the first 13 games were very encouraging. It's been downhill since Strachan took over, and that Lisbon, is a fact...

Gillandi Posted on 03/03/2010 16:39
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i'd take a penalty winner at Cardiff but i'd really like to see Strachans side score from open play. Its been 353 minutes since they last did that.

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 16:44
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Very encouraging, nice one.[:D] Once Huth went we were crap, throwing away leads against Coventry and Preston and losing lots of home games without scoring, all that after feebly surrendering our Premiership status. Class that like.[;)]

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 16:48
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Southgate was gone by the time Preston came around. Besides the fact that we played both Coventry and Preston off the park, which was encouraging. If we'd continued to play in that way we'd be comfortably top 6.

As Gillandi pointed out, these new forwards are hardly setting the world alight! There's only Killen who has a goal yet! Fact is he hasn't turned anything around. It's got worse...

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 16:53
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Played them off the park and drew 2-2. magic![:D] Yes, it was a great decision to ditch Southgate before Preston as he was quite clearly, a bit sh_it.[^]

Well as McDonald has been injured and he is yet to play Miller than that is probably the reason why. Killen looks a good buy and McDonald I am sure will prove to be a good buy, there's only Miller that is an unknown quantity.

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 16:56
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Preston was the best we've played this season . . . haven't seen anything of that quality since . . . well done Coops

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 16:58
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I watched the Preston game and it was average, we had flashes of decent play and then our usual crap defending. Strachan has sorted the defence out, the midfield looks decent, we just need to find a partnership that is fit up front.

sasboro1 Posted on 03/03/2010 16:58
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i read it is something like 350 minutes since we last scored in open play

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 17:00
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Your eye sights not failing you then.[;)]

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 17:01
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"he is yet to play Miller"

I think it should be "he has played Miller" but "Miller is yet to play"

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 17:07
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Sorted the defence out? Do me a favour... We still look like conceding goals. The only difference that I can see from the first 13 games is we are playing less attractive football and not picking up as many points. Aye... He's turned it around alright! [ref]

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 17:11
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Erm, we have only lost 2 games in our last 9.[8)]

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 17:12
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How many have we won?


Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 17:13
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Won 4, drawn 3, lost only 2. The 2 we lost were tough away games against Blackpool and Forest that we probably should have taken something from.

Easy Posted on 03/03/2010 17:15
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Yep... That form is breathtaking... Interesting that in your view he has turned things around yet Southgates points return in our first 9 games was much better than the 9 games you refer to... Anyway, I'm off to get jollied up! [^]

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 17:16
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Southgate also had Huth, Tuncay and Adam Johnson to help him out and we were still crap.[^]

offside-again Posted on 03/03/2010 17:26
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Strachan v Southgate comparisons are pretty much pointless until the end of next season. That said if when Strachan took over we were told we wouldn't mkae the play offs there would have been an uproar imho. [;)]

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 17:27
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I have come to the conclusion this is a wind up

anyone who says they'd have southgate back like a shot is in need of serious help

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 17:27
Boro happy with strach

Well it's a good job we are still in with a shout then.[ref]

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 17:29
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"anyone who says they'd have southgate back like a shot is in need of serious help"

err I can't see anyone saying that; it's the positive stance with regard to Strachan's performance that's the wind up

Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 17:30
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6 home games unbeaten, obvious signs of improvement despite not playing at our fullpotential.[^]

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 17:31
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bear66 - have a look further up the thread

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 17:32
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It's getting difficult with 138 posts . . . which poster?

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 17:32
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easy said at 11.15

quote "I'd have Gareth back immediately. It'll never happen but I'd much rather have Gareth in charge that this condescending twit! Didn't you know, according to Strachan our opinions are worthless as we've never 'been in the game'... "

bear66 Posted on 03/03/2010 17:35
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It's EASY to say you want something that can never happen . . . .

. . . Gibson was at fault in not getting Ferguson here 3.5 years ago . . but it would never have happened . . .

gerd_muller Posted on 03/03/2010 17:36
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??

SidSnot Posted on 03/03/2010 18:51
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Lisbon - you do talk some rubbish sometimes:

Southgate also had Huth, Tuncay and Adam Johnson to help him out and we were still crap.

We'd be in the Top two if we'd kept those three just as our early season form indicated.

But we didn't and Southgate has gone so give it a rest. Judge Strachan on what Strachan does not against Southgate.

Clearly we're improving from the form shown in his first few games. That's a good thing and I really hope we continue to improve. We need to though as we don't look like a play off team yet.

his_dudeness Posted on 03/03/2010 19:19
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'Southgate also had Huth, Tuncay and Adam Johnson to help him out and we were still crap.'

strachan has signed half a football team and we are hardly any better


Lisbonlegend Posted on 03/03/2010 21:07
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SidSnot, you know not what you are talking about.[8)]