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Aurora Posted on 17/02/2010 20:28
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Identify a terrorist and then kill the fcker.

I like their style. That one armed inciter of hate abu watsit wouldnt be claiming the dole if he lived in Israel...

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 20:53
Got to hand it to the Israelis

thats because your an idiot and because skynews/fox jew news station news says that the hez bullah are terroists you believe them


the only terrosim going on is by israelis, invading the lebanon illegally and backed up by the jew nation of the usa

they have been illegally invading the lebanon for 25 years

jews, get away with murder

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 17/02/2010 20:55
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Is Barak Obama a jew?

Never knew that.

AlBoro1984 Posted on 17/02/2010 20:56
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Time for Dude's medication.

NURSE!

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 20:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

barrack obama got paid into office by jews

so yes, he is a jew funded president


thick basterd

robbso Posted on 17/02/2010 20:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Are you a Muslim Dude?

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 20:58
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Very true.

TurnbullsCans Posted on 17/02/2010 20:58
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I have to I am also sceptical of believing anything that comes out of Israel. They are as bad as anyone else at killing innocent people but are shyt hot at playing the victims, as they always have been.

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 17/02/2010 20:59
Got to hand it to the Israelis

So Jesse Jackson is a rabbi then?

AlBoro1984 Posted on 17/02/2010 21:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Nice to know anti-Semitism is still as prevalent now as it was in the 1940s.

Why don't we round them all up and put them into little camps? That'll teach them.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[rle]no, im not stupid enough to be religious, are you a christian robbso?

UKLL1981 Posted on 17/02/2010 21:01
Got to hand it to the Israelis

'the only terrosim going on is by israelis, invading the lebanon illegally and backed up by the jew nation of the usa

they have been illegally invading the lebanon for 25 years

jews, get away with murder'



Probably true but I like Israel.

Personally I would shed no tears if they wiped the entire Arab world off the map.

The sooner they do it so I can go back to Eilat and go diving the better.




petedreadnought Posted on 17/02/2010 21:01
Got to hand it to the Israelis

That's quite true, TurnbullsCans.

Then Israel wonders why people get upset when they bomb the Hell out of Palestine schools and hospitals.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:02
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[^]oh so because the jews got massacred in world war 2 thats makes them immune from criticism forever


the jews are the biggest hypocrites in the world, there constant bombing of the lebanon for 25 years a country they are illegally invading is as bad as the holocaust just on a smaller scale

robbso Posted on 17/02/2010 21:03
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I am a non practising left footer Dude.

well_hung_but_modest Posted on 17/02/2010 21:04
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Dude's no muslim, he's just a fully-certified, paid up dickhead.
Sad thing is, he's too thick to know it

woodymfc Posted on 17/02/2010 21:04
Got to hand it to the Israelis

You seem to have very strong points on this Dude, are you a supporter of the judean popular front [?]

Aurora Posted on 17/02/2010 21:06
Got to hand it to the Israelis

So you are saying that its ok for terrorists to hide behind annonymity and murder innocent people whilst the state cant retalite likewise.


You lefty plank.

Fcking IRA would ve been out of business in 1970 if the Israelis had been let loose on em - McGuiness etc , topped

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:07
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[^]never mind the palestinian schools getting bombed, a poor isreali soldier died last week and that is more important to skyjewnews than a few palestinian children

sad to see morons like aurora falling for the time and tested big lie propoganda adapted and used by goebbles in world war 2

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:09
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[rle]why is a palestinain a terrosist in his own country aurora and an israeli in the lebanon isnt


please think about that one

look up the term terroist, it means somebody who kills without purpose, its a fear word governments use to curry favour with the brain dead population, people like you

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 17/02/2010 21:11
Got to hand it to the Israelis

XXXXXX me his medication needs topping up again.

Nurse!

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 21:13
Got to hand it to the Israelis

"the only terrosim going on is by israelis, invading the lebanon illegally and backed up by the jew nation of the usa

they have been illegally invading the lebanon for 25 years

jews, get away with murder"

Admin, any chance we could ban this vile anti-semite?

well_hung_but_modest Posted on 17/02/2010 21:13
Got to hand it to the Israelis

a terrorist is someone who kills without purpose?
Quite the opposite, most terrorist kill FOR a purpose, or a cause, however warped that might be.
Dude, you really are the most outrageously thick tosser ever to infest this board.

onthemap Posted on 17/02/2010 21:13
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Lots of terrosists & terroists in that post Dude.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:13
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[rle]i just get amazed when people are so brain dead they call people fighting for a cause a terroist

aurora reckons palestinians are 'terroists' for defending the lebanon, and the reason he does can only be because skynews says so

that must make every british soldier in world war 2 'terroists' for defending us against the germans

what an idiot

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 21:14
Got to hand it to the Israelis

All them people murdered in the Holocaust and Israel behave in the way they do.

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 21:17
Got to hand it to the Israelis

You can't even spell the word you ignorant racist.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:18
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[:D]ha ha ha, you must be rascist to the palestinians then pierre


to funny

joebolton Posted on 17/02/2010 21:18
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Probably because of all of them people murdered in the Holocaust that they behave in that way.
Personally, I can't blame them.

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 17/02/2010 21:21
Got to hand it to the Israelis

mmmm....I could have sworn it was the Shia militia of Hezbollah fighting in the Lebanon, and that in Palestine Hamas was 'freedom fighting' in the West Bank and Gaza strip.

Maybe too much anti-western propaganda on Al-thegeezer for the Dude to take in perhaps?

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 21:21
Got to hand it to the Israelis

One problem with that, Jeff, and I'm not talking about the spelling this time. I can provide evidence of your "rascism" (!?) whereas you can't provide any evidence for your 'allegation', such as it is.

Suppose I needn't worry, you'll be banned soon anyway, and quite rightly.

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 21:26
Got to hand it to the Israelis

He has a point of view is that wrong to have one?

xxlshirts_fit_all Posted on 17/02/2010 21:26
Got to hand it to the Israelis

did the israelis not invade lebenon to provide a buffer between them and the "freedom fighters" who were lobing rockets into their country and the like?
neither country is very innocent there, but to say one cause is better than the other is a bit baffaling?

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:27
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[^]you said it warwick, the hezbollah defending themselves in the lebanon

there own country

what a terrible thing to do, terroists

they are also the social infrostructure of there 'own' country providing schooling and social services against

'the invading israeli forces'

TheSmogMonster Posted on 17/02/2010 21:28
Got to hand it to the Israelis

The Dude (Jeff's) writings on this aside (doing a fine job of countering your own argument there).

"So you are saying that its ok for terrorists to hide behind annonymity and murder innocent people whilst the state cant retalite likewise."

So you're advocating murder of innocent people?

Thats plainly wrong, Israel shouldn't be allowed to get away with what they got away with.

Neither side is in the right in this situation.

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 17/02/2010 21:34
Got to hand it to the Israelis

You said Palestinians were fighting in Lebanon - it's the Lebanese fighting there.

The Palestinians are waging a war of terror in their own way in a separate part of the region.

Not all Arabs are Palestinians you know.....

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 21:34
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Pertinent United Nations Security Council Resolutions Since 1967 As They Relate to Israel

No.
Date
Substance / Summary of Content

233 6 June 1967 Calls for an immediate cease-fire and cessation of all military activities.
234 7 June 1967 Demands a cease-fire.
237 14 June 1967 Calls upon the Government of Israel to ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants, facilitate the return of those inhabitants who have fled the areas since the outbreak of the hostilities and recommends the scrupulous respect of the humanitarian principles contained in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949.
242 22 Nov 1967 Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include: withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict; and termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.
248 24 Mar 1968 Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property. Condemns the military action launched by Israel in flagrant violation of the U.N. Charter and the cease-fire resolution. Calls upon Israel to desist from acts or activities in contravention of resolution 237 (1967). (This was an attack against Karameh, Jordan.)
250 27 Apr 1968 Calls upon Israel to refrain from holding the military parade in Jerusalem which is contemplated for 2 May 1968.
251 2 May 1968 Deeply deplores the holding by Israel of the military parade in Jerusalem on 2 May 1968 in disregard of the unanimous decision adopted by the Council on 27 April 1968.
252 21 May 1968 Deplores the failure of Israel to comply with General Assembly resolutions 2253 (ES-V) and 2254 (ES-V) of 4 and 14 July 1967. Considers that all legislative and administrative measures taken by Israel, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon, which tend to change the legal status of Jerusalem, are invalid and cannot change the status. Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind all such measures taken and to desist from further actions changing the status of Jerusalem.
259 27 Sept 1968 Deplores the delay in implementation of resolution 237 (1967) because of the conditions still being set by Israel for receiving a Special Representative of the Secretary-General. Requests the Secretary-General to urgently dispatch a Special Representative to the Arab territories under military occupation by Israel following the hostilities of 5 June 1967 and to report on the implementation of resolution 237 (1967).
267 3 Jul 1969 Reaffirms the established principle that the acquisition of territory by military conquest is inadmissible. Deplores the failure of Israel to show any regard for the resolutions of the General Assembly and the Security Council. Censures in the strongest terms all measures taken to change the status of the city of Jerusalem. Urgently calls once more on Israel to rescind all measures taken by it to change the status of Jerusalem and in the future to refrain from all actions likely to have such an effect
271 15 Sep 1969 Grieved at the extensive damage caused by arson to the Holy Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on 21 August 1969 under the military occupation of Israel; calls upon Israel to scrupulously observe the provisions of the Geneva Conventions and international law governing military occupation.
298 25 Sep 1971 Deplores the failure of Israel to respect previous U.N. resolutions concerning measures and actions by Israel purporting to affect the status of the city of Jerusalem. Confirms that all legislative and administrative actions taken by Israel … are totally invalid and cannot change that status. Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind all such measures….
338 22 Oct 1973 Calls for an immediate cease-fire and termination of all military activity. Calls upon the parties concerned to start immediately after the cease-fire the implementation of Security Council resolution 242 (1967) in all of its parts....
339 23 Oct 1973 Refers to resolution 338 (1973); confirms its decision on immediate cessation of all military actions; and requests the Secretary-General to take measures for immediate dispatch of U.N. observers to supervise observance of the cease-fire.
381 30 Nov 1975 Expresses concern over the continued state of tension in the area. Decides to reconvene on 12 January 1976 to continue the debate on the Middle East problem including the Palestinian question, taking into account all relevant U.N. resolutions.
425 19 Mar 978 Calls for the strict respect for the territorial integrity, sovereignty and political independence of Lebanon. Calls upon Israel immediately to cease its military action against Lebanese territorial integrity and withdraw forthwith its forces from all Lebanese territory. Decides to establish immediately under its authority a United Nations Interim Force in Southern Lebanon (UNIFIL).
446 22 Mar 1979 Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East. Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying power, to abide scrupulously by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, to rescind its previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographical nature and materially affecting the demographic composition of the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and in particular, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territories.
452 20 Jul 1979 Calls upon the government and people of Israel to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.
465 1 Mar 1980 Determines that all measures taken by Israel to change the physical character, composition, institutional structure or status of the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, or any part thereof, have no legal validity and that Israel's policy and practices of settling parts of its population and new immigrants in those territories constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East. Strongly deplores the continuation and persistence of Israel in pursuing those policies and practices. Calls upon the government and people of Israel to rescind those measures, to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.
Calls upon all States not to provide Israel with any assistance to be used specifically in connection with settlements in the occupied territories; and requests the Commission to continue examining the situation relating to settlements, to investigate the reported serious depletion of natural resources, particularly water, with a view to ensuring protection of those important natural resources of the territories under occupation.

468 8 May 1980 Recalling the Geneva Convention of 1949 and expressing deep concern at the expulsion by the Israeli military occupation authorities of the Mayors of Hebron and Halhoul and of the Sharia Judge of Hebron, calls upon Israel as occupying Power to rescind these illegal measures and to facilitate the immediate return of the expelled Palestinian leaders.
469 20 May 1980 Strongly deplores the failure of Israel to implement resolution 468 (1968). Calls again upon the Government of Israel, as occupying Power, to rescind the illegal measures taken by the Israeli military occupation authorities in expelling the Mayors of Hebron and Halhoul and the Sharia Judge of Hebron.
471 5 June 1980 Expresses deep concern that the Jewish settlers in the occupied Arab territories are allowed to carry arms thus enabling them to perpetrate crimes against the civilian population. Calls for the immediate apprehension and prosecution of the perpetrators of these crimes and condemns the assassination attempts on the lives of the Mayors of Nablus, Ramallah and Al-Bireh. Expresses deep concern that Israel, as occupying Power, has failed to provide adequate protection to the civilian population in the occupied territories in conformity with the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Calls again upon the Government of Israel to respect and comply with the provisions of the Convention as well as with the resolutions of the Council, calls once again upon all States not to provide Israel with any assistance to be used specifically in connection with settlements in the occupied territories. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem.
476 30 June 1980 Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Strongly deplores the continued refusal of Israel, the occupying Power, to comply with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council and the General Assembly. Reiterates that all measures taken by Israel which have altered the geographic, demographic and historical character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem are null and void and must be rescinded in compliance with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council. Reaffirms that all such measures and actions constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Reaffirms its determination in the event of non-compliance by Israel to examine practical ways and means in accordance with relevant provisions of the U.N. Charter to secure full implementation of this resolution.
478 20 Aug 1980 Censures in the strongest terms the enactment by Israel of the "basic law" on Jerusalem and the refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions. Affirms that the enactment of the "basic law" by Israel constitutes a violation of international law and does not affect the continued application of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949 in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since June 1967, including Jerusalem. Determines that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which have altered or purport to alter the character and the status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, and in particular, the recent "basic law" on Jerusalem, are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith. Decides not to recognize the "basic law" and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem. Calls upon all members of the United Nations (a) to accept this decision, (b) and upon those States that have established diplomatic Missions in Jerusalem to withdraw such Missions from the Holy City.
484 19 Dec 1980 Expressing grave concern at the expulsion by Israel of the Mayor of Hebron and the Mayor of Halhoul, calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to adhere to the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Declares it imperative that they be enabled to return to their homes and resume their responsibilities.
508 5 June 1982 Calls upon the parties to the conflict to cease immediately and simultaneously all military activities within Lebanon and across the Lebanese-Israeli border. Requests all Member States which are in a position to do so to bring their influence to bear upon those concerned so that the cessation of hostilities declared by Security Council resolution 490 (1981) can be respected. (Beginning of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.)
509 6 June 1982 Demands that Israel withdraw all its military forces forthwith and unconditionally to the internationally recognized boundaries of Lebanon and demands that all parties observe strictly the terms of paragraph 1 of resolution 508 (1982).
512 19 June 1982 Expressing deep concern at the suffering of the Lebanese and Palestinian civilian populations, calls upon all the parties to the conflict to respect the rights of the civilian populations, to refrain from all acts of violence against those populations and to take all appropriate measures to alleviate the suffering caused by the conflict.
513 4 Jul 1982 Expressing alarm at the continued sufferings of the Lebanese and Palestinian civilian populations in southern Lebanon and in west Beirut, calls for respect for the rights of the civilian populations without any discrimination and repudiates all acts of violence against those populations. Calls further for the restoration of the normal supply of vital facilities such as water, electricity, food and medical provisions, particularly in Beirut.
515 29 Jul 1982 Demands that the government of Israel lift immediately the blockade of the city of Beirut in order to permit the dispatch of supplies to meet the urgent needs of the civilian population.
516 1 Aug 1982 Confirms its previous resolutions and authorizes the Secretary-General to deploy immediately, on the request of the Government of Lebanon, U.N. observers to monitor the situation in and around Beirut.
517 4 Aug 1982 Confirms once again its demand for an immediate cease-fire and withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon. Censures Israel for its failure to comply with the above resolutions. Takes note of the decision of the Palestine Liberation Organization to move the Palestinian armed forces from Beirut and authorizes the Secretary-General to increase the number of U.N. observers in and around Beirut.
518 12 Aug 1982 Demands that Israel and all parties to the conflict observe strictly the terms of Security Council resolutions relevant to the immediate cessation of all military activities within Lebanon and, particularly, in and around Beirut. Demands the immediate lifting of all restrictions on the city of Beirut
520 17 Sep 1982 Condemns the recent Israeli incursions into Beirut in violation of the cease-fire agreements and of Security Council resolutions. Demands an immediate return to the positions occupied by Israel before 15 September 1982, as a first step towards the full implementation of Security Council resolutions.
521 19 Sep 1982 Condemns the criminal massacre of Palestinian civilians in Beirut; reaffirms its resolutions 512 (1982) and 513 (1982), which call for respect for the rights of the civilian populations without any discrimination, and repudiates all acts of violence against those populations. Requests the Secretary-General, as a matter of urgency, to initiate appropriate consultations and, in particular, consultations with the Government of Lebanon on additional steps which the Security Council might take, including the possible deployment of United Nations forces, to assist that government in ensuring full protection for the civilian populations in and around Beirut. (Massacre of Sabra and Shattilla refugee camps while eastern Beirut was under Israeli military occupation.)
573 4 Oct 1985 Condemns vigorously the act of armed aggression perpetrated by Israel against Tunisian territory in flagrant violation of the U.N. Charter, international law and norms of conduct; and demands that Israel refrain from perpetrating such acts of aggression or from threatening to do so. (Israeli raid against PLO Headquarters in Hammam Al-Shut)
592 8 Dec 1986 Strongly deplores the opening of fire by the Israeli army resulting in the death and the wounding of defenseless students at Bir Zeit University. Calls upon Israel to abide immediately and scrupulously by the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949. Calls upon Israel to release any person or persons detained as a result of the recent events at Bir Zeit University.
605 22 Dec 1987 Strongly deplores those policies and practices of Israel, the occupying Power, which violate the human rights of the Palestinian people in the occupied territories, particularly the opening of fire by the Israeli army, resulting in the killing and wounding of defenseless Palestinian civilians. Calls once again upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide immediately and scrupulously by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
607 5 Jan 1988 Calls upon Israel to refrain from deporting any Palestinian civilians from the occupied territories; and strongly requests it to abide by its obligations arising from the Fourth Geneva Convention.
608 14 Jan 1988 Reaffirming resolution 607 (1988) of 5 January 1988, deeply regrets that Israel, the occupying Power, in defiance of U.N. resolutions, has deported Palestinian civilians. Calls upon Israel to rescind the orders and to desist from forthwith deporting any other Palestinian civilians from the occupied territories.
611 25 Apr 1988 Having noted with concern that the aggression perpetrated on 16 April 1988 in the locality of Sidi Bou Said (Tunisia) has caused loss of human life, particularly the assassination of Mr. Khalil Al-Wazir, condemns vigorously the aggression perpetrated against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Tunisia in flagrant violation of the U.N. Charter; and urges Member States to take measures to prevent such acts against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all States. (Al-Wazir (Abu-Jihad) was the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Palestine Liberation Organization.)
636 6 Jul 1989 Deeply regrets the continuing deportation by Israel, the occupying Power, of Palestinian civilians. Calls upon Israel to ensure the safe and immediate return to the occupied Palestinian territories of those deported and to desist forthwith from deporting any other Palestinian civilians. Reaffirms that the Fourth Geneva Convention is applicable to the Palestinian territories, occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem, and to the other occupied Arab territories.
641 30 Aug 1989 Deplores Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinian civilians. Calls upon Israel to ensure the safe and immediate return to the occupied Palestinian territories of those deported and to desist forthwith from deporting any other Palestinian civilians. Reaffirms that the Fourth Geneva Convention is applicable to the Palestinian territories, occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem, and to the other occupied Arab territories.
672 12 Oct 1990 Reaffirming that a just and lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict must be based on its resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) through an active negotiating process which takes into account the right to security for all States in the region, including Israel, as well as the legitimate political rights of the Palestinian people. Expresses alarm at the violence which took place on 8 October at Al-Haram Al-Sharif and other Holy Places of Jerusalem, resulting in over twenty Palestinian deaths and the injury of more than one hundred and fifty people, including Palestinian civilians and innocent worshippers. Condemns especially the acts of violence committed by the Israeli security forces, resulting in injuries and loss of human life. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations under the Fourth Geneva Convention.
673 24 Oct 1990 Deplores the refusal of the Israeli Government to receive the mission of the Secretary-General to the region in violation of resolution 672 (1990).
681 20 Dec 1990 Expresses its grave concern over the rejection by Israel of its resolutions 672 (1990) and 673 (1990). Deplores the decision by the Government of Israel, the occupying Power, to resume the deportation of Palestinian civilians in the occupied territories. Urges the Government of Israel to accept the de jure applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to all the territories occupied by Israel since 1967
694 24 May 1991 Declares that the action of the Israeli authorities of deporting four Palestinians on 18 May is in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which is applicable to all the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Deplores this action and reiterates that Israel refrain from deporting any Palestinian civilian from the occupied territories and ensure the safe and immediate return of all those deported.
726 6 Jan 1992 Strongly condemns the decision of Israel, the occupying Power, to resume deportation of Palestinian civilians. Reaffirms the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 to all the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Requests Israel to ensure the safe and immediate return of all those deported.
799 18 Dec 1992 Strongly condemns the action taken by Israel, the occupying Power, to deport hundreds of Palestinian civilians (on 17 December 1992). Expresses its firm opposition to any such deportations by Israel. Reaffirms the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to all the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Demands that Israel ensure the safe and immediate return to the occupied territories of all those deported.
904 18 Mar 1994 Strongly condemns the massacre in Hebron committed against Palestinian worshippers in Al-Ibrahimi Mosque, on 25 February 1994, during the holy month of Ramadan, and its aftermath which took the lives of more than 50 Palestinian civilians and injured several hundred others. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to continue to take and implement measures, including, inter alia, confiscation of arms, with the aim of preventing illegal acts of violence by Israeli settlers. Calls for measures to be taken to guarantee the safety and protection of the Palestinian civilians throughout the occupied territory, including, inter alia, a temporary international or foreign presence, which was provided for in the Declaration of Principles, within the context of the ongoing peace process.
1073 28 Sep 1996 Expresses its deep concern about the tragic events in Jerusalem and the areas of Nablus, Ramallah, Bethlehem and the Gaza Strip, which resulted in a high number of deaths and injuries among the Palestinian civilians. Calls for the immediate cessation and reversal of all acts which have resulted in the aggravation of the situation and which have negative implications for the Middle East peace process. Calls for the safety and protection of Palestinian civilians to be ensured. Calls for the immediate resumption of negotiations within the Middle East peace process on its agreed basis and the timely implementation of the agreements reached. (The draft resolution was issued officially as a presidential text, which normally indicates unanimity prior to the vote.)
1322 7 Oct 2000 Reaffirms that a just and lasting solution to the Arab and Israeli conflict must be based on its resolutions 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967 and 338 (1973) of 22 October 1973, through an active negotiating process. Deplores the provocation carried out at Al-Haram Al-Sharif in Jerusalem on 28 September 2000, and the subsequent violence there and at other Holy Places, as well as in other areas throughout the territories occupied by Israel since 1968, resulting in over 80 Palestinian deaths and many other casualties. Condemns acts of violence, especially the excessive use of force against Palestinians, resulting in injury and loss of human life. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and its responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva. Calls for the immediate cessation of violence, and for all necessary steps to be taken to ensure that violence ceases, that new provocative actions are avoided, and that the situation returns to normality. Stresses the importance of establishing a mechanism for a speedy and objective inquiry into the tragic events of the last few days with the aim of preventing their repeti

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:35
Got to hand it to the Israelis



[:D]i think its funny how a palestinian is a terroist for killing and an israeli isn't

how does that work then, or is the definition purely down to the media


altogether lads, terror, terrosism, linked to alquaeda, terror, bombers etc

brainwashed by the media

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 17/02/2010 21:35
Got to hand it to the Israelis

By what i am reading on this thread, it looks as if its OK to be racist towards Jews on this board, yet it you do the same towards black people you are a racist.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:38
Got to hand it to the Israelis

surely by that logic calling palestinians terroists is also just as rascist

[rle][rle][rle][rle][rle][rle][rle]

ffs

petedreadnought Posted on 17/02/2010 21:38
Got to hand it to the Israelis

By what i am reading on this thread, it looks as if its OK to be racist towards Jews on this board, yet it you do the same towards black people you are a racist.

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Who said that though?

You seem to be the only person on this thread that thinks so.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 17/02/2010 21:40
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Just that it seems on some of the post's on this thread abit iffy

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 21:41
Got to hand it to the Israelis

In what way?

Vosene Posted on 17/02/2010 21:42
Got to hand it to the Israelis

ok apart from that, what have the isrealies done wrong?

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 17/02/2010 21:44
Got to hand it to the Israelis

In the way they are presented, I've probably just got the wrong end of the stick but some do seem abit iffy

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 21:44
Got to hand it to the Israelis

In what way?

petedreadnought Posted on 17/02/2010 21:47
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Anonymous-Hero, I can't see anyone on this thread that has said it is okay to be anti-Semitic, so I'm not sure what it is you're getting at. The only person to have taken issue with it is you. Yet your comment just seems to be a stab-in-dark designed purely to stir the XXXXXX.

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 21:51
Got to hand it to the Israelis

"In what way?"

Read the second post, or "Elders of the Protocol of Zion, 2010 edition", as it should be known.

bulletproof_boro Posted on 17/02/2010 21:51
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Theres no racism going on, theres just facts being pointed out. Like when a palestinian fires a rocket over the border he's a terrorist but when israelis massacre palestinian women and children we can just forget about it because israel can do what they like apparently.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 17/02/2010 21:52
Got to hand it to the Israelis

'thats because your an idiot and because skynews/fox jew news station news says that the hez bullah are terroists you believe them


the only terrosim going on is by israelis, invading the lebanon illegally and backed up by the jew nation of the usa

they have been illegally invading the lebanon for 25 years


jews, get away with murder'

Theirs just something about that

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 21:52
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Yes, something called anti-semitism.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 21:53
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[:D]ha ha ha, anonymous is so thick he has to be prompted by pierre


funny as XXXXXX

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 21:54
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I think it not only The Elders of the Protocol of Zion,but the owners of the Federal Reserve.

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 17/02/2010 21:54
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[rle]The irony of been called thick by you

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 21:56
Got to hand it to the Israelis

You're in trouble if racists and anti-semites aren't calling you "thick".

petedreadnought Posted on 17/02/2010 21:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Elaborate, Anonymous-Hero.

There's no doubt that jeff's obsessive hatred for Jews is pretty apparent here in this thread, but it doesn't mean it's acceptable, in fact if you bothered to read through the thread a few people have commented on it, but I'm guessing you've ignored it.

AlBoro1984 Posted on 17/02/2010 21:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

"the only terrosim going on is by israelis, invading the lebanon illegally and backed up by the jew nation of the usa

they have been illegally invading the lebanon for 25 years

jews, get away with murder"

If thats not anti-Semitic I don't know what is. I recognize Israel are by no means innocent in all of this, but I think its fairly obvious why Isreal are now so aggressive/reactionary when it comes to conflict.

To try and paint Hezbollah as righteous freedom fighters simply defending themselves from an evil tyrant is just wrong though. Both sides are culpable.

Vosene Posted on 17/02/2010 21:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

if germany had taken the south of england in ww2, would you lob a few bricks over the wall?

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 21:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Too easily chucked around insults..there worthless in here.

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 22:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Yes, you're right red_shamrock. Why don't you elaborate on your remark about the Federal Reserve?

Also (and this is getting pretty out of control), the award for "Not Clear On The Concept" goes to the guy who complained about anti-semitism then ascribes (not particularly pleasant) traits to the whole "Jewish race."

Anonymous-Hero Posted on 17/02/2010 22:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I only read the first 10 posts then commented on it, I just find it funny how the dude seems to have double standards

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 22:01
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[^]yup, because i oppose a nation invading another and express it in a no-nonsense way im racist


no doubt if i called germans nazis in world war 2 you would have called me rascist as well pierre, those poor germans


When the germans killed the jews it was the holocaust, but when the israelis invaded and occupied the lebanon and massacred men , women and children it was fine because skynews said so


chorleyphil Posted on 17/02/2010 22:01
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Israelis just want to live in peace.


Shalom

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 22:04
Got to hand it to the Israelis

"no doubt if i called germans nazis in world war 2 you would have called me rascist as well pierre, those poor germans"

Oh, I thought it was just a typo. But alas, you actually think it's spelt that way - which probably explains why you don't seem to have any clue what the word means. Which in turn explains why you don't recognise how speaking in pejorative and conspiratorial tones about an entire ethnic group can be construed as racism.

woodymfc Posted on 17/02/2010 22:05
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Did you send your boys round in the end chorley [;)]

Sitrep Posted on 17/02/2010 22:05
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Israel sowed the seed of modern terrorism as we know it, and I for 1 won’t be shedding any tears when they do finally get their comeuppance

No Israel = no terrorism

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 22:06
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Not with you on the 2nd paragraph?

The Federal Reserve
) Ben S. Bernanke: Chairman of the Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2020.

2) Donald L. Kohn: Vice Chairman of the Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2016.

3) Randall S. Kroszner: Member of Board of Governors of Federal Reserve.

4) Frederic S. Mishkin: Member of Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2014.

5) Alan Greenspan: Advisor to Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Recent Chairman

TurnbullsCans Posted on 17/02/2010 22:06
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Another pathetic thread based on yes it is-no it isn't views of racism.

Posters never seem to learn these threads go nowhere apart from into self-righteous nothingness yet people still invest hours into them.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 22:07
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[rle]so you hate the palestinians then pierre?

chorleyphil Posted on 17/02/2010 22:08
Got to hand it to the Israelis

nah woody [cr] must drink less[|)]

Vosene Posted on 17/02/2010 22:09
Got to hand it to the Israelis

so then , what would you do if we were occupied, ports blocked, squeezed financially, by germany?.blurt on about your occupiers human rights,or fight for yours and your kids freedom?

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 22:11
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[^]exactly vosene

the lebanon is the same analogy

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 22:11
Got to hand it to the Israelis

You learn a little bit on here Turnbull..others can make you think...or is already boxed off.

Robespierre Posted on 17/02/2010 22:13
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Jeff - no. Nothing I've said so far reflects any opinion on the Israel-Palestine conflict, least of all regarding the ethnicities involved. Was that seriously all you had in reply?

This is actually a pretty open-and-shut case, TurnbullsCan, evident from the second post. I'm sure admin will agree when they show up.

In fact I hope they pull the whole thread, some of the stuff on it is just vile. Would be easy to dismiss as sub-Ickean dishwater were it not so historically dangerous.


jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 22:15
Got to hand it to the Israelis

why is it an open and shut case

because you say so


er, ok

[rle]

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 22:15
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Bit dramatic.[pa]

TurnbullsCans Posted on 17/02/2010 22:16
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I just tend to view threads such ad this and think I can't be bothered trying have a debate with a load of people who think they know it all, most of whom know very little.

Maybe it's my age!

Vosene Posted on 17/02/2010 22:16
Got to hand it to the Israelis

answer the fcukking question smart asre

red_shamrock Posted on 17/02/2010 22:18
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Perhaps.

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 22:19
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[:D]vosene you have answered my question

the hezbullah are doing what your suggesting, defending themsleves and there land

ive already thanked you for the analogy


what part of it dont you grasp

chorleyphil Posted on 17/02/2010 22:20
Got to hand it to the Israelis

ARE THEY BALLS

Sitrep Posted on 17/02/2010 22:21
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Robespierre get over yerself son, it’s a message board FFS

Vosene Posted on 17/02/2010 22:21
Got to hand it to the Israelis

not you, the up his own asre pierre fella

jeff_lebowski Posted on 17/02/2010 22:23
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[:D]oh sorry

Tommy_Trinder Posted on 17/02/2010 22:53
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Do you get a little stiffy, when Jews are murdered Lebowski?

ridsdale Posted on 17/02/2010 23:34
Got to hand it to the Israelis

lebowski is holgate_hero.


A 'look at me' needy mentalist.

Robespierre Posted on 18/02/2010 00:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Vosene - I would answer the question if it was a) coherent or b) had relevance to the thread. Yes, of course I see the (strained) analogy, but the implication you're making is a false one - that I am somehow pro-Israeli, pro-Zionist, anti-Palestinian when I have offered zero views on the conflict on this thread. All I have done is point out the blatant anti-semitism of certain posters.

An analogy of my own - if I were to object to racism against, say, Asians, would I have to respond to charges pertaining to Pakistani foreign policy? Of course not.

This is only a message board, I agree (a badly moderated one, I may add) but there are people behind the usernames. I wouldn't tolerate racism if I heard it on the bus, or at a Boro match, so why on here?

red_shamrock Posted on 18/02/2010 00:04
Got to hand it to the Israelis

A sort of finger pointer then?

br14 Posted on 18/02/2010 05:14
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Always confusion when people use the term "Jews" instead of Israelis.

Israel still has a fair number of non-Jews though obviously the number is never allowed to get to the point where the demographics become significant.

"Israelis just want to live in peace."

Stretching it a bit there aren't you. Israel is doing it's level best not to make peace, because that's the last thing it needs.

A single state solution would create a far too unbalanced electorate. And a two state solution would mean handing over land forever.

Far better to remain in a state of flux. The price is the odd rocket attack, but those rarely cause too much in the way of collateral damage. And if they do, then a healthy slap usually knocks the Palestinians back enough to maintain the status quo for another few years.

Must be frustrating having the Americans threaten to remove their subsidy all the time though.

Bernie_was_right Posted on 18/02/2010 07:46
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Why is this anti semitism allowed on this board? If some of these comments have been about Muslims the thread would have been pulled.

Usual disgusting double standards from the board admin.

SmogOnTheRhine Posted on 18/02/2010 08:21
Got to hand it to the Israelis

The use of "anti-semitic" as a charge against anyone daring to criticise Israel is as bad as constantly bringing up the holocaust as an argument for Israeli "self-defence" 65 years later.

You normally find, as proven in this thread, it's not a pro-Israel stance that these people have but an anti-Muslim one. All of you supporting Israel would equally support the Martians bombing the XXXXXX out of anyone with a copy of the Quran in their hands..... then bleat that anyone arguing against this was "anti-Martian"

Bigoted racist idiots.

AlBoro1984 Posted on 18/02/2010 08:26
Got to hand it to the Israelis

"All of you supporting Israel would equally support the Martians bombing the XXXXXX out of anyone with a copy of the Quran in their hands..... then bleat that anyone arguing against this was "anti-Martian""

Nothing like an unsubstantiated sweeping generalisation. I think you'll find most posters on here recognize the Israeli culpability but object to statements such as "jews get away with murder" as there are obviously two sides to this conflict.

SmogOnTheRhine Posted on 18/02/2010 08:29
Got to hand it to the Israelis

OK, I accept that "all" is over the top, but we all know who I'm talking about.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 18/02/2010 08:31
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Moxzin back then?

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 08:36
Got to hand it to the Israelis

It's not anti-semitic to point out facts. As red_shamrock so ably demonstrated the state of Israel has flouted international law, particularly UN reolutions, and abused the human rights of the Palestinians since it's inception. This criminal, racist state has been supported by the USA since it's inception. The very powerful, rich and influential Jewish population of the USA has an inordinate influence on US foreign policy in addition to the lunacy of the Neo-cons who support a Jewish state in the attempt to bring about Armageddon. Rupert Murdoch comes from Jewish ancestry and owns sky news. They have a very pro-Jewish standpoint. State organsied killings by the Mossad are somehow seen as acceptable by the wider world. Why?

The Palestinians have every right to resist the occupation and defend themselves. Unfortunatly the Palestinian people (particularly in Gaza) suffer from the actions of Hamas, suicide bombings and launching rockets into Israel. Hamas seem to be primarily interested in keeping themselves in power rather than the best interests of the Palestinian people. Meanwhile in the West Bank the Israelis continue to persecute Palestinians, grab more land and allow settlers to force Palestinians from their homes, particularly in East Jerusalem.

The Palestinians are merely pawns in a global power game between the US and Israel and their allies and Iran, Syria, Lebanon etc.

I am in no way anti-semitic, many Jews in Israel simply want to reach a settlement (no pun intended) with the Palestinians and live in peace, a 2 state solution is the only option, with hopefully one day a multi-ethnic state of Israel and Palestine combined. However, while the Zionists hold the power in Israel this will never happen and until US and global support is taken away from the Zionist Israeli regime peace will never happen in the Middle East and we will continue to live under the threat of terrorist attacks from extremists

Manfriday Posted on 18/02/2010 08:50
Terrorists you thick chunt

The spelling mistakes littered through this thread are terrible. People shouldnt try and debate about stuff they cant even spell. Just wait till the doyle police get here

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 09:07
Terrorists you thick chunt

jeff definitely has apoint - just not very well made IMO.

the usual 'racist police' jump on anything like this [rle]


chorleyphil Posted on 18/02/2010 09:17
Terrorists you thick chunt

Towz, just to pull you up on one thing, Israelis are far from racist mate.
There are Jews living in Israel which originate from all corners of the world, including places like Iran, Ethiopia and Algeria.

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 09:26
Terrorists you thick chunt

I never said Israelis (as in the people of who live in Israel are racist, although there are extremeists and ultra-orthodox jews amongst them, aswell as liberal, non-religious jews, Israel Arabs, Druze, Circsassians etc) it is the state of Israel that is racist (as in the government, IDF, Mossad).

Borointheskywithdiamonds Posted on 18/02/2010 09:27
Terrorists you thick chunt

TON

heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 18/02/2010 09:33
Terrorists you thick chunt

A mate of mine worked in Tel-Aviv a few years ago for a few months, and he said he was suprised on how many Israelis just wanted to get on with things and live in peace. Somehow. A lot of them were pretty sympathetic towards the Palestinian situation on the Gaza strip. Moderate Jews.

However it was the very ultra right wing Jews who had a burning hatred towards the Palestinians and simple brushed off all the shít that Israel had carried out against them as "protecting Israel". Fully justified as the palestinian people were threatening the Jewish race.

They won't change, the same as Al Quaeda won't. This "conflict", pretty much ignored by international bodies, will be rumbling on in 200 years until the two leaders agree to fundamental comprimises. Which won't happen as the radicals on both sides would never agree to it.

chorleyphil Posted on 18/02/2010 09:42
Terrorists you thick chunt

Fair enough Towz.

I have sat through an Israeli security interview and some of the things they quized me on were indeed racist, intrusive and personal. Asking if my school teacher wife teached muslim kids etc.

I guess they cant be too careful.

However, none of that distracted me from the friendly collegues I worked with.

The_same_as_before Posted on 18/02/2010 09:49
Terrorists you thick chunt

The Palastinians need beatifying, there does not seem a bad one amongst them. The Jews however are cruel and evil to a man.

Strange how Arab nations will not have Palestians anywhere in thier borders,Egypt Lebonan and Jordan have 'cleansed' them since the 6 day war, I wonder why, if they are all such nice clean living people.

Why hasn't the saintly Iran or Saudi said come here lads and lasses you're all welcome?

chorleyphil Posted on 18/02/2010 09:56
Terrorists you thick chunt

It suits Iran etc to have Palastinians exactly where they are.

MoggasDog Posted on 18/02/2010 10:19
Terrorists you thick chunt

i hate israel. im not anit-jew at all. but its no small coincidence that israel hides behind the jewish neo-conservative movement in the US. we should boycott the bast ards.what theyve done to the palestinians is a disgrace...on its way to genocide. they get away with murder

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 10:21
Terrorists you thick chunt

money talks......







but it dont dance......

chorleyphil Posted on 18/02/2010 10:21
Terrorists you thick chunt

Aye, we all know your views.

Decent_Left Posted on 18/02/2010 10:36
Got to hand it to the Israelis

What a XXXXXXing despicable thread.

The only thing that seems to be missing from the full anti-Semitic bag of tricks is the blood libel. If only there was a rumour that the Hamas XXXXXXs organs had been harvested the dude would probably have XXXXXXed himself into a frenzy and red shamXXXXXX would have ticked off another box in his big book of worldwide Zionist conspiracies.

Rob needs to get a grip with this. If he can threaten to ban someone on the basis of abuse to a named individual, then repetition of the protocols of the elders of Zion must come a bit higher than that. Or is it only brown people or people called julie that get protection on here.

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 10:40
Got to hand it to the Israelis

the answer to your question is either:-
A) get over yourself; or,
B) get out the house more

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 11:01
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Decent_Left, admittedly some of the dudes comments have been a bit dodgy to say the least but the fact is that the state of Israel (specifically on the balance of probability Mossad) yet again appears to have flouted international law and carried out extra-judicial killings, compromising those people whose passports have been used.

If you remember the recent incident over the radiation poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko in London (allegedly by Andrei Lugovoi ex KGB and FSA) there was huge international condemnation of the incident. Why no such condemnation for Israel?

The_same_as_before Posted on 18/02/2010 11:04
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Towz, did you know that killing your wife is legal in Iran, and according to the UN it occurs more than daily.

It is not in the UN charter to kill your wife.

Where are your words of ansk against that?


It appears that you have a problem with Jewishness.

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 11:07
Got to hand it to the Israelis

WTF are you on about?

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 11:08
Got to hand it to the Israelis

i think its called 'clutching at straws to try and label one as racist' towz

The_same_as_before Posted on 18/02/2010 11:09
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Your complete inability to see anything but what you want to see.

The_same_as_before Posted on 18/02/2010 11:15
Got to hand it to the Israelis

What straws am I clutching at, and who have I accused of racism?

If I were a Jew, I would expect my government to protect me. History says on the whole I lose out. the Jews live in a tiny country in a huge Arab conerbation (sp).

The Arab nations want nothing to do with Palestinians, who I have no doubt are wonderful peaceful people, apart from the one or tow who blew Planes out of the Skies in the 70's and 80's and the Isreali athletes they murdered.

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 11:17
Got to hand it to the Israelis

by saying he has a problem with 'jewishness'; id say that is a thinly veiled racist slur.

The_same_as_before Posted on 18/02/2010 11:21
Got to hand it to the Israelis

if that appears what it is then I 100% apologise and resind it and to be a pedant thats not racism, bigotory maybe.

But like I said, that was not my intent, I could edit it out, but thats cowardness and not what i meant.

Still in my opinion there are 2 sides to every conflict.

Bernie_was_right Posted on 18/02/2010 11:22
Got to hand it to the Israelis

"This criminal, racist state....."
"I am in no way anti-semitic....."

[8)]

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 11:26
Got to hand it to the Israelis

no bother.

thats what a debate is - 2 differing view points [smi]

Decent_Left Posted on 18/02/2010 11:36
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Towz. There are currently 3 very valid explanations for the assasination:
1- it was Mossad
2- it was fatah as payback for the Hamas lead pogrom in gaza 3 years ago when over 350 fatah members were massacred
3-it was a Hamas on Hamas killing due to him loosening his ties to Iran for arms funding

In any case the issue of who did it should not be an excuse for an outright anti semetic outburst.

Rod, what's your problem. Are you still in despair at the expulsion of rees&german, or that amnesty are in disrepute for costing up to jihadi supporters. Get over yourself.

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 11:48
Got to hand it to the Israelis

^^^ sn i gger

edit - filter is pretty keen like.

Decent_Left Posted on 18/02/2010 11:53
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Anti semitism is bullXXXXXX is it. Most people call it racism you rascist apologist.

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 11:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

lol. racist apologist eh - wow thanks.

because i have said some posters may have a vaild point i am racist apologist?

righto kidda ffs[rle]

no wonder this country is fcuked up with its retarded PC laws due to bellends like you [^]

Decent_Left Posted on 18/02/2010 12:09
Got to hand it to the Israelis

XXXXXX all to do with PC you XXXXXXwit.

If it was a valid opposite view that would be fine. The fact that the dude chose to repeat a 100 year old anti semetic lies means that it's not a valid view. It is in fact racist.

Do you get that?

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 12:13
Got to hand it to the Israelis

and the fact that i said he had SOME valid points escaped you. that is SOME - not ALL.

now take a few deep breaths and calm down you moron, or your mam will be wondering why she has to buy yet another keyboard for the family PC this week after you've smashed another in a fit of rage [^]

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 12:19
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Decent Left, I agree the anti-semitism (althouh Arabs are also semitic people so it's seems like a poor choice of word to me for anti-Jewish sentiment) is totally unacceptable. I have a problem with the state of ISrael (and the US' unconditional support of it) and it's treatment of the Palestinians. I also have a problem with Hamas.

The points you raise about who was responsible for the 'hit' are fair enough but I think you and I both know that in all probability it was Mossad. If Hezbollah, Hamas or a similar group had carried out such a 'hit' on an Israeli target, Beirut, Damscus and possible Tehran would probably now be smouldering sheets of glass.

Decent_Left Posted on 18/02/2010 12:22
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Rod, point out one valid claim the dude made.

He had none.

The only clarity that emerged was his anti semitism.

With nothing else valid in his output he therfore is exposed as dumb racist.

You insist on continuing to defend him ergo you are an apologist for a racist.

Now XXXXXX off and leave trying to argue with the big boys till you get back in the playground when half term finishes

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 12:23
Got to hand it to the Israelis

you're bubbling on like a bust rsehole now fella - give it a rest ffs [rle]

Metroman Posted on 18/02/2010 12:27
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I have a lot of simpaphy for the Palastian cause but has it been proven that the guy assasinated was the head of Hamas' military wing and was in Dubai to buy weapons? This might be spin so hence the question.

If so, I had no problem with the SAS shooting the IRA operatives in Gibralter so it would be a bit hypocritical for me to object to this incident.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 18/02/2010 12:28
Got to hand it to the Israelis

"oh so because the jews got massacred in world war 2 thats makes them immune from criticism forever"

I think thats a valid point.

Decent_Left Posted on 18/02/2010 12:37
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Towz

it possibly was Mossad but it could equally have been either of the other 2 options

As for the other way round, The guy was responsible for the kidnapping & murder of 2 Isreali soldiers in 1989. The world didn't quite end then.

I don't have a problem with the state of Isreal. I do have a problem with the right wing and especially the religious intolertant parties in Isreal.

What I have a greater problem with is the emergence of Hez in the north and Hamas in the south both of whom were founded on the basis of total destruction of the isreali state and the death of Jews anywhere in the world.

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 12:38
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Like i said last night,
I would love to see where these yellow belly liberal shysters would stand if this country was partly occupied during ww2.

Just sit tight and don;t call the germans just incase we upset the pc brigade.

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 12:40
Got to hand it to the Israelis

its nothing to do with being PC though vosene [8)]

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 12:47
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I've worked with jews and palestinians, and i i'd take a palastinian over a jew any day.

Met plenty, didnt like one of them.


TheSmogMonster Posted on 18/02/2010 12:48
Got to hand it to the Israelis

So Vosene you're saying the Palestinians have a de facto right to terrorism?

Edit, just checked and you are saying that.

I personally do think they have a right to fight back, but I think the killing of Israeli civilians has done them no good.

Angelmatty Posted on 18/02/2010 12:50
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Dude your a total idiot

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 12:52
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Israel get given their weapons off the US. Hamas have to buy them on the open market. As I've already stated I don't agree with Hamas, they're dangerous extremeists, but the Palestinians have the right to resist the illegal occupation of their land and for the people of Gaza, Hamas are the only ones doing it at the moment. It's all very sad to be honest

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 12:52
Got to hand it to the Israelis

what would you do in there situation?
What would you do if a country (not recognised at the time) took your main city, robbed your house, totaly fcukked you over?
Sit there?
I know i wouldnt

petedreadnought Posted on 18/02/2010 12:53
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Why does Vosene keep pushing this issue about if Britain was occupied by German forces in WWII?

Surely, he's not that stupid to be unaware of the vast differences in this hypothetical alternate reality he's created and the actual issue being debated here.

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 12:55
Got to hand it to the Israelis

here he is.

What would you do peter if we were occupied,
you could look over the wall and see your grans house occupied by a family.

What would you do?

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 12:56
Got to hand it to the Israelis

There maybe differences.

But the feeling of ocupation would be the same.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

petedreadnought Posted on 18/02/2010 12:56
Got to hand it to the Israelis

its nothing to do with being PC though vosene [8)]

---

You're correct, it isn't. It's quite hilarious though when right-wingers continually use "PC Brigade" as a disparaging remark when they clearly have absolutely no understanding of this cliched buzz-phrase at all.

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 12:58
Got to hand it to the Israelis

The PC correct comment is aimed at people shouting for bans and getting the thread pulled

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 13:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

and i was being sarcastic [8D]

petedreadnought Posted on 18/02/2010 13:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Seriously Vosene, what the the Hell is it you're going on about?

All I can see is some tedious, repetitive nonsense about Germans occupying England in WWII and can't really understand what point, if any, you're actually trying to make.

Please explain.

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 13:00
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Who you calling big nose? [:D]

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 13:01
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I think i have explained quite well.

Phone the DSS they might have a biffline to translate

petedreadnought Posted on 18/02/2010 13:02
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I figured that, Rod100.

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 13:03
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[ref]

petedreadnought Posted on 18/02/2010 13:06
Got to hand it to the Israelis

No, Vosene, you've explained nothing. All you've done is conjure of some laughable jibberish about some hypothetical situation in over 60 years ago and then demanded people answer you inane and frankly preposterous questions about it without even bothering to explain what relevance it has to the topic of this thread.

If you can't, as I suspect is true, then just say so.

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 13:09
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Ok then, what would you do if the Taleban, who we are supposedly at war with invaded Britain, took your house, rounded you up into slums and oppressed you for 40 odd years?

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 13:12
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Just answer the question

ayresomeangle Posted on 18/02/2010 13:12
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I cant believe the way the world stood by and did nowt while Israel murdered hundreds of men women and children last Chrsitmas.

petedreadnought Posted on 18/02/2010 13:15
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Vosene, maybe the reason why you're getting annoyed with people for not answering your question is down to the fact you refuse to elaborate and explain yourself.

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 13:18
Got to hand it to the Israelis

What would you do peter if your country was occupied.

Simplified version of the question related to the discussion on the isreali occupation of palestinian land. Which the thread decended into once finger pointing got underway.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO PETER IF YOU WERE LIVING IN A LAND OCCUPIED?
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 13:20
Got to hand it to the Israelis

can we apply this reasoning to the situation in northern ireland too?

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 13:22
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Initially yes but the conflict has now been resolved in a fair and just manner. Let that one lie rod

Metroman Posted on 18/02/2010 13:22
Got to hand it to the Israelis

btw the British Government is concerned that British Passports were used. They have not commented on whether the incident itself was right or wrong

towz Posted on 18/02/2010 13:24
Got to hand it to the Israelis

As per usual. Incidentally Mandelson and Milliband are of Jewish descent.

Rod100 Posted on 18/02/2010 13:24
Got to hand it to the Israelis

i only brought that to the table as response to the analagy vosene was using towz [smi]

petedreadnought Posted on 18/02/2010 13:26
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I'd bend over and fart bolts of lightening out of my arsehole at the belligerents, Vosene. [:D]

For XXXXXX's sake, considering I've had the luxury of never living in a country occupied by a aggressive and oppressive force, how can you possibly expect me or anyone else who hasn't to give you a reasonable answer?

I have absolutely no idea what I would do or how I would feel!

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 13:31
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I think i have mistaken you for peirre from last night.
Apologies if i kept on [:D]

I think you would feel pretty peeved about being occupied, i would for certain.

RenzoRosso Posted on 18/02/2010 13:38
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I've not read the whole thread but do we all agree that Isreal was wrong to use Uk passports? They actually stole one guy at least's identity.


towz Posted on 18/02/2010 13:44
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Assuming it was agents of Israel yes

plazmuh Posted on 18/02/2010 15:57
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Terrorist is a great word
The USA and the UK use it everytime they want to steal freedom off the masses.
It works all the time everyone believes it
In most cases it need never be proven or truthful.
Wake the fuuk up people.
There are people who do good in this world and there are people who do the opposite,
Its not for me to say who is or is not a TERRORIST
Shame we can,t just live in peace
regards
plazmuh
[:D][:D][^]

Vosene Posted on 18/02/2010 16:06
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Thats what i was tryin gto say plazmuh but im a mong [:P]

plazmuh Posted on 18/02/2010 16:09
Got to hand it to the Israelis

They cll me a conspiracy nut job
lol
Dont let the bassstards grind you down
Peace out
plazmuh
[:D][:D][^]

The_same_as_before Posted on 18/02/2010 16:31
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Having read various reports on this it is obviously a joint Mossat Hezbollah killing organised by Hammas with Russion weapons paid for in $$$$'s.

Aurora Posted on 18/02/2010 17:47
Got to hand it to the Israelis

Not that I can be arsed to read the previous 166 posts but.....My point was not about what constitutes a terrorist as one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

My point was the Israelis identified enemies that hide behind the law etc and took em out - respect to them for that - no fannying on with courts etc,

People with blood on their hands deserve to die by the sword(mixed metaphors but hell who cares)

red_shamrock Posted on 18/02/2010 18:35
Got to hand it to the Israelis

[:D]

HeineOtto Posted on 18/02/2010 19:04
Got to hand it to the Israelis

I don't know what all the hullabaloo is about. Russia, Britain, America, Israel, South Africa etc and no doubt half the world's secret services have been carrying out hits like this for years.
The Israeli's have just been a little less covert this time around.

could_it_be Posted on 18/02/2010 20:21
Got to hand it to the Israelis

i bet lebowski got/gets tortured at school

by big jew kids probably

at least jews are funny

name me one funny palestinian

just one