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Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:09
Are You English or British?

English for me

Fook Britain

barneyblair Posted on 19/02/2008 14:10
Are You English or British?

English!!

benidorm2boro Posted on 19/02/2008 14:11
Are You English or British?

english,and fooking proud.

flar Posted on 19/02/2008 14:11
Are You English or British?

English by birth

Boro by the grace of God.

Cockney_Barra_Boy Posted on 19/02/2008 14:12
Are You English or British?

We are all beautiful people under one god and should not label people......BOLLOX..

ENGLISH.

Bukowski Posted on 19/02/2008 14:13
Are You English or British?

English.

Only a few odd people down south call themselves British nowadays.

rob_fmttm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:13
Are You English or British?

Both obviously. Who do you support in the Olympics?

London_Boro Posted on 19/02/2008 14:13
Are You English or British?

Why am I getting a mental image of white vans, St George flags and bulldog tattoos?

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:13
Are You English or British?

It depends, unless there is a reason to differentiate, eg football i would say British.
I have just as much in common (or probably more) with someone from Scotland than London.
I had a Welsh girlfirend for a long while and it rarely crossed my mind that we were from different countries.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:14
Are You English or British?

I write English on any forms I fill in. Some say, "No sir, you need to put British".......my reply is normally..."But i'm not British you stupid splitarse i'm English"

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:14
Are You English or British?

Rob, I will support the athlete who is English

I'm not British

bororeddaz Posted on 19/02/2008 14:15
Are You English or British?

Indian by birth.

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:15
Are You English or British?

and in response do they call you a tit by any chance?

flar Posted on 19/02/2008 14:15
Are You English or British?

"I write English on any forms I fill in. Some say, "No sir, you need to put British".......my reply is normally..."But i'm not British you stupid splitarse i'm English"

Do they just sigh heavily after that Paul?

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:16
Are You English or British?

Wilko, but you were from different countries!

The scottish/Welsh and Irish generally dislike us so fook em!

I'm English

flar Posted on 19/02/2008 14:16
Are You English or British?

please do not clall me coloured, I am black, thank you very much!

Brick_Tamland Posted on 19/02/2008 14:16
Are You English or British?

This would indicate that the British National Party won't be winning any elections unless they change their name, which is unlikely and also a good thing.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:16
Are You English or British?

No Wilko they don't. So calm the fook down

mattfj Posted on 19/02/2008 14:16
Are You English or British?

Rob: who would you support in the football world cup?

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:17
Are You English or British?

Fook the BNP as well!

All i'm saying is I refer to myself as English rather than British because I am. What next, European?

flar Posted on 19/02/2008 14:18
Are You English or British?

calm down paul, youll be reckoning yourself from proper Boro next...

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:18
Are You English or British?

Flar, that subject was so yesterday. Stick to slating Jeff

go4boro Posted on 19/02/2008 14:19
Are You English or British?

I am a Yorkshireman with a british passport and live under the law covering England & Wales

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:21
Are You English or British?

i am calm thanks Pauluka.

The Welsh and Scottish dont hate us at all, that's just not true.

I realise technically we are from different countries but in real terms it made no difference. Take away the border and nothing would be different.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:22
Are You English or British?

But we are still in different countries, no?

English and proud

chrism2050 Posted on 19/02/2008 14:23
Are You English or British?

My nationality is English. However, I am a British citizen.


number9 Posted on 19/02/2008 14:23
Are You English or British?

Well i suppose if you were to ask an english born pakistani if they were english or pakistani in my experience they would go for pakistani.

As for me i was not born in Great Britian, which is an amalgamtion of four countries, but in England and as I speak ENGLISH not british I guess that I am therefore ENGLISH.

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:23
Are You English or British?

yes but we are also all British

Chris - your nationality is British. England is a country, Britain is the nation.

boksic Posted on 19/02/2008 14:24
Are You English or British?

Have a look in your passport. You're British.

Deal with it.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:25
Are You English or British?

I may hold a British passport Wilko. But that's the only 'British' part of me!

I'm not British, I am English. When filling in Nationality questions I will always put English. I don't give two shytes about Scotland/Wales and the Ireland

Just like Holland and France don't care about each other, although they are joined via borders

guyb Posted on 19/02/2008 14:25
Are You English or British?

In order of preference -

Teessider, Northerner, English, British, European, Human

flar Posted on 19/02/2008 14:25
Are You English or British?

number 9 - are all americans english because they speak english?

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:26
Are You English or British?

boksic, I will deal with nothing of the sort. Just because others will call me British doesn't mean I have to accept that when i'm not

Brick_Tamland Posted on 19/02/2008 14:26
Are You English or British?

I don't like to think of myself as English or British.

I'm a cosmopolite, 'world citizen' if you like.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:27
Are You English or British?

My Order

Teessider - Northerner - English

Nothing else matters, apart from getting a British Passport to go on my holidays

rumrunner Posted on 19/02/2008 14:29
Are You English or British?

English and the cross of St George
The union Jack flag is nothing to me

As for wilkos perm saying its just not true that the scots and welsh hate us, he obviously have never lived and worked with them oh yes they do mate

oh and i have no time for the BNP, am not rascist just hate jocks, welsh and Irish cos they have done nothing but slag the English off for as long as i can remember

Rant over

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:29
Are You English or British?

What rumrunner said

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 14:29
Are You English or British?

"The Welsh and Scottish dont hate us at all, that's just not true."
Never heard so much S***e in my life, Mr Perm you've obviously never worked with any of them

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:30
Are You English or British?

Leave Wilko alone. He's British and proud

mattfj Posted on 19/02/2008 14:30
Are You English or British?

This debate reminds me of a Bernard Manning quote.......'if a cat was born in a kennel......'

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 19/02/2008 14:33
Are You English or British?

Wouldn't you slag off the inhabitants and supporters of a nation that has invaded your country, leached it's natural resources for it's own benefit, governed it from afar, exercised droit de signeur over it's women and treated you as a third class citizen?

That's what we've done over the years to the Scots, Welsh and Irish so it's not unnatural for some form of hatred to be seen in their societies.

guyb Posted on 19/02/2008 14:34
Are You English or British?

my Welsh mate has a mug with a sheep on the side and a speech bubble saying "If Wales was flattened out, it would be bigger than England"

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 14:34
Are You English or British?

fook em

SouthStandSumo Posted on 19/02/2008 14:36
Are You English or British?

English & proud of it.
Every jock, taff & paddy I have known has disliked the english, well if they dislike us that much why don't they all fook off back home.

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 14:37
Are You English or British?

I knew bnp part timer marskephil wouldnt be far away once this was brought up.

I am english and by the way totally agree marskephil even though he is a tad too militant for my type.

How u doing mate

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:37
Are You English or British?

just being a pain here but Holland and France dont actually share a border.

Anyway, even if they did, they don't share laws, parliaments etc etc so not really a fair comparison.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:38
Are You English or British?

I meant Belgium but never mind

My point is this Wales, Scotland, Ireland and England are all different countries. I don't want to share my identity with countries that dislike us and I have no affiliation with apart from laws.

So, fook em

rumrunner Posted on 19/02/2008 14:38
Are You English or British?

Warwick-Brave heart was not a factual film you know

but even so it was hundreds of years ago and the hatred is still passed down

We meaning the Westminster parliament have had to forgive Irish terrorists only recently , its called forgetting to move on and look forward they cant seem to do that just happy to blame the English for everything

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 14:40
Are You English or British?

Less of the BNP stuf, I'm not raciest you know exactly what I'm on about. By the way Back to Black asked me to ask how Osram is.....

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:40
Are You English or British?

i currently work with 5 Scottish people and i have lived in Dundee. So no i'm not talking S***e.


Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:41
Are You English or British?

Oh I see, so they speak for a whole nation?

Don't spout crap, they dislike us and you know it

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 14:42
Are You English or British?

Oh and they're not Scottish. They're British, no?

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 14:42
Are You English or British?

Im fine and back to playing footie this thursday night so ask me friday when i cant walk.

Is he still insisting he dosent use back 2 black it really is embaressing, have you asked him what his take on this thread is.

bernieisgod Posted on 19/02/2008 14:42
Are You English or British?

I'm English from the sporting point of view but British otherwise. I can well understand why the Irish, Welsh and Scots hate the English but it is time to move one.
I hate C****neys though - anything south of Thirsk is a bit iffy (I live in North Manchester and keep telling them they are in teh Midlands but they don't really understand!)

Warwick_Hunt Posted on 19/02/2008 14:42
Are You English or British?

Sssshhhh rumrunner, you'll spoil it.

Just some ammunition for everyone to justify why they can generalise about millions of people, that's all.

Some people will believe it.

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:44
Are You English or British?

well no they don't but presumably the people Marsephil is talking about do?

I've just genuinely never had and problem. P*** taking yes, but genuine dislike no.

I don't mean this in a snobby way but i can imagine this may be different depending on which social class you deal with.

rumrunner Posted on 19/02/2008 14:45
Are You English or British?

Wilko ask your 5 scottish workmates
if they are Scottish or British

just asked the 3 jocks i am sat in a office
they all shouted "scottish ye English cnut"

whale_oil_beef_hooked Posted on 19/02/2008 14:46
Are You English or British?

English and proud of it !!!

Critical_Bill Posted on 19/02/2008 14:46
Are You English or British?

Do DutcH,Belgians and Luxembourg(ers?) refer to themselves as Beneluxians?

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:48
Are You English or British?

well rumrunner they got part of that right...
(smiley thing)

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 14:48
Are You English or British?

wilko i know where phil is coming from as we both work up there, it has to be seen to be believed whenever we play another country at anyting there are meals all day of that country, flags banners and other crap everywhere.
They call it craic but with many not all there is genuine dislike.

If we play the frogs there is french toast etc on the menu, just an example.

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 14:50
Are You English or British?

You want to stop playing at your age Halle! Yes people are always asking what he uses to get "bin bag black" and he always insists that it's all natural, mind that's not what the cabin cleaner's say when they try to scrub out the sink

kernaghanscodpiece Posted on 19/02/2008 14:51
Are You English or British?

I remember going away to university an living with loads of others who had travelled from all over to study in Birmingham, (of all places).

I always found I had more in common with the jock's, Taffs and the irish, (north & south), than with the southern english students.

For this reason I have never objected to the term 'British', like a lot of you seem to.

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 14:52
Are You English or British?

Mr Perm,

"I don't mean this in a snobby way but i can imagine this may be different depending on which social class you deal with."

In what way do you mean it then?

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 14:52
Are You English or British?

that's exactly my experience Kerny, you just put it a lot better than i did.

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 14:53
Are You English or British?

Its bin bag coloured not black, see told you that youre racist,

I know about playing i only get in the way and make them run round me and it may keep me off the grog a few hours longer.

Bukowski Posted on 19/02/2008 14:53
Are You English or British?

Warwick_Hunt wrote:
"Wouldn't you slag off the inhabitants and supporters of a nation that has invaded your country, leached it's natural resources for it's own benefit, governed it from afar, exercised droit de signeur over it's women and treated you as a third class citizen?"


As far las leaching natural resources, governing from afar goes I'd like to point out that the government and parliament making decisions is a British parliament (NOT an English one), currently led by a Scot. The Scots have their own parliament making decisions on their own affairs, the Welsh have their own Assembly and the English have neither.


"exercised droit de signeur over it's women and treated you as a third class citizen"


When did this happen? Hundreds of years ago that's when. And everybody living today has nothing to do with that. Why do English people living today deserve to be slagged off for things that other people did way before they were born? Answer is they don't. I don't walk around constantly slating young Germans for what happened in the war or people from Scandinavia for the Viking invasions because they have done nothing to warrant any abuse.

So the answer is no. I wouldn't slag them off.

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 14:54
Are You English or British?

perm that scruffy gits from redcar dont call him a snob!!!!!!!!!

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 14:55
Are You English or British?

They have to keep running around you, the other lads must be F*****

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 14:56
Are You English or British?

its a tactic mido should use and they would be sh@@@@@ the last half hour

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 14:56
Are You English or British?

Halle, that's pot calling kettle blac...I mean dark grey

red_rebel Posted on 19/02/2008 14:57
Are You English or British?

I am amazed that so many people can't handle the over-lapping concepts at play here. Some people seem close to spontaneous combustion at the thought of the contradictions.

Wait till they all get asked to sing the European anthem and swap their red passports for nice blue ones with pretty stars on.

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:00
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well Phil "social class" was probably the wrong terminology but if you go to Northern Ireland for example the stongholds of extremist views are the poorer areas eg the large council estates. The same is true in Glasgow for example. In the wealthier areas there thend to be a more balanced viewpoint - this is obviously not the complete rule but certainly an overall trend.

So if you go to one of these places to work on say a building site you are more likely to deal with labourers who have had a poorer education. If however you were going to meet some nuclear physicists who have presumably had the benefit of a good education then they are less likely to hold unbalanced views.


Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 15:01
Are You English or British?

Lazy Bastad is this an extended dinner or early 3 o/c board blitz or an overlapping effort.

burydweller Posted on 19/02/2008 15:06
Are You English or British?

Unfortunately, I am an earthing from a solar system in the milky way. A huge galaxy with billions of stars within a universe teaming with billions of other galaxies, with billions of stars and planets, am I English or British? who fcuking cares

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 15:06
Are You English or British?

Perm if you go anywhere in Scotland you wont find a st george flag as they would burn it or rip it down but come down here and we see plenty of saltires. You can go across the social or educational board in Scotland from whatever background you want and it is an overall feeling of hatred usually blamed on John Motsons reitterance of 1966. We are disliked immensely up there.

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 15:07
Are You English or British?

What utter S***e Mr Perm, so depending on where you are brought up and how much you've got gives you a more balanced view point. So you only get racists and bigots at poorer schools and areas with no wealth. I fooking heard it all now.

Halle...early extended tea break something I'm sure we have in common.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 15:10
Are You English or British?

Wilko trying to be upper class !!!

FFS

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:14
Are You English or British?

Phil i did state that "this is obviously not the complete rule but certainly an overall trend". So no, you don't "only get racists and bigots at poorer schools and areas with no wealth".

It shouldn't be the case that where you are born dictates your level of eductation but unfortunately that is the case. Of course im not saying wealtheir people aren't racists and poorer people are.

BUT, if you're telling me that you're not more likely to encounter an unbalanced view coming from a lower skilled person than someone with the benefit of a better education then you are wrong.


Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 15:15
Are You English or British?

So you're 5 friends who you work with, are they MP's by any chance. You're the one with an unbalanced view

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:15
Are You English or British?

Wilko trying to be upper class !!!

FFS


what are you on about?

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 15:17
Are You English or British?

What and who do you class as a lower skilled person

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 15:18
Are You English or British?

I'm sorry mate. I'm not from a posh area so I reckon my opinion means nothing. I'm trying to get hold of a judge to act on my behalf when speaking to you.

Give me a few minutes

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:21
Are You English or British?

no probs Pauluka.


wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:24
Are You English or British?

dont tell me you've taken offence at the commonly used terms 'skilled and unskilled'?

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 15:26
Are You English or British?

Wilko what do you do for a living?

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:28
Are You English or British?

i am an Engineer.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 15:28
Are You English or British?

I have also been an Engineer

In what field?

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 15:29
Are You English or British?

Don't answer a question with a question. I asked YOU what you class as skilled and unskilled.

BerwickHillsBopper Posted on 19/02/2008 15:29
Are You English or British?

English at home, British abroad.

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:34
Are You English or British?

Chemical by background, into more processs modelling type stuff nowadays. You?

Phil, give it a rest. A simple example - on a building site a bloke carrying bricks around is unskilled, the trained bricklayer laying them is skilled.

Boroborn Posted on 19/02/2008 15:35
Are You English or British?

I'm English.

With St George in my heart keep me English.

woodymfc Posted on 19/02/2008 15:37
Are You English or British?

Born on Mother Earth as a Brit

Manny-Being-Manny Posted on 19/02/2008 15:38
Are You English or British?

ANGLO SAXON for me.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 19/02/2008 15:39
Are You English or British?

What about the British army? Should we have an English army?

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 15:39
Are You English or British?

Mechanical,
OK I'll leave it, but one last thing according to your logic as long as the labourer(unskilled)on the building site dosn't talk to the bricklayer(skilled) about what was discussed at the beginning of this thread, everything will be fine

Libbins Posted on 19/02/2008 15:39
Are You English or British?

I'm both.
Is that allowed?

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 15:41
Are You English or British?

British Army?

It's virtually English anyway apart from the foreign regiments. Scottish Guards etc

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:42
Are You English or British?

he can talk to him about it, its just that the labourer will be wrong :-)

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 15:43
Are You English or British?

whilst you lot were debating ive been watching the debate on panorama where Brewick decided England or Scotland. What a kick in the nuts they want to go over the border and adorn themselves in blokes dresses.

Back to the original thread, bollox to em its English for me.

marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 15:44
Are You English or British?

Good answer! you win I'm bored and have to get back to my skilled work!!

I hope your not reading this Halle!!! you might laugh

wilkos_perm Posted on 19/02/2008 15:45
Are You English or British?

its a bit mad that, you'd have to change football teams.

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 15:46
Are You English or British?

you mechanical and skilled should never be used on the same page.

Neither should mechanical or skilled themselves for that matter,

Anyhow your breaks over get back or 70s haircut will be after you.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 19/02/2008 15:47
Are You English or British?

And did those feet in ancient time

walk upon Englandís mountains green?

And was the holy Lamb of God

on Englandís pleasant pastures seen?

And did the countenance divine

shine forth upon our clouded hills?

And was Jerusalem builded here

among these dark Satanic Mills?


Bring me my bow of burning gold!

Bring me my arrows of desire!

Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!

Bring me my chariot of fire!

I will not cease from mental fight,

nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,

till we have built Jerusalem

In Englandís green and pleasant Land.



I'm all for reconstructing a Middle-Eastern city in somewhere like Hertfordshire. Think in indicates our embracive stance on multi-ethnicity.


marskephil Posted on 19/02/2008 15:48
Are You English or British?

I knew you'd take the bait about the "skilled factor" you just keep to fitting the Osrams

woodymfc Posted on 19/02/2008 15:48
Are You English or British?

is that MANNY-BEING Steven MANNY ?

Halle_Burton Posted on 19/02/2008 15:49
Are You English or British?

No it wasnt owt to do with sport it was purely on financial terms that the jocks got the vote, students grants and courses, prescriptions that type of thing. They could offer me free housing beer and grub and i wouldnt support their national team

scuzzmonster Posted on 19/02/2008 16:37
Are You English or British?

Welsh mother, English father = British for me, though I tend not to broadcast the fact when overseas. I can't understand why so many posters on here seem to have a bug up their collective ass about nationality. It's not an achievement and it's no big deal.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 16:38
Are You English or British?

It's a big deal to me. Obviously not you as you're a half breed

scuzzmonster Posted on 19/02/2008 16:40
Are You English or British?

Like I said, no achievement whichever way you look at it.

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 16:41
Are You English or British?

It doesn't have to be a acheivement to make it relevant

rozi Posted on 19/02/2008 16:44
Are You English or British?

My passport which I had since December 2006 is for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, it states that I am a British citizen therefore I need no more proof - I AM ENGLISH [:)]

scuzzmonster Posted on 19/02/2008 16:47
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Whatever you say, Paulie. Personally, I hold a British passport which is quite useful for getting around the place and I occasionally travel to spots which make me thankful - and happy even - to have been born in the United Kingdom but I'm not quite sure where pride comes into it. Still, each to their own. You sure you don't have an Irish nana as a fair few other Teessiders might claim?

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 16:54
Are You English or British?

I do have Irish grandparents as it happens [:)]

scuzzmonster Posted on 19/02/2008 16:58
Are You English or British?

I rest my case [:)]

Pauluka Posted on 19/02/2008 16:58
Are You English or British?

What case is that?

Metaxa Posted on 19/02/2008 17:00
Are You English or British?

English

TEEBAG Posted on 19/02/2008 17:21
Are You English or British?

English for me.Why is it ok for the welsh to be welsh and the scots to be scottish but the english have to be british

Tom_Fun Posted on 19/02/2008 17:23
Are You English or British?

English.

SirGooner01 Posted on 19/02/2008 17:23
Are You English or British?

English

british is a false label really, we may have some cultural links across the isles but we still are from different countries

Cecil_J_Mctumshie Posted on 19/02/2008 17:24
Are You English or British?

neither

Scottish and proud as fook

George1507 Posted on 19/02/2008 17:24
Are You English or British?

You don't. I'm a Scot, and I support Scotland in all competitions where Scotland appears. But I'm British, it says so in my passport and I will always be British.

English people can be english and British too.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 19/02/2008 17:27
Are You English or British?

European, fook Britain, fook England.

GGGG Posted on 19/02/2008 18:25
Are You English or British?

Middlesbrough thats what i am and if the person doesnt know where that is they aint worth talking to

bigrichardthe4th Posted on 19/02/2008 18:44
Are You English or British?

english for me fookk britain,st georgy,jurusalem our anthem...

onthemap Posted on 19/02/2008 18:50
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Why is nationalism only associated with racism and scum like the BNP, when it's exhibited by Englishmen?


HolgateEnd Posted on 19/02/2008 18:52
Are You English or British?

English and proud.

Anyone who thinks the Scots dont dislike us, they even sing of their dislike of the English in their national anthem.

And as for the welsh... I went there a couple of years ago for a holiday and the B*****s had sprayed paint/tar/anything else over the English translation on EVERY SINGLE ROAD SIGN I went past.

Fook the fooking lot of them!! English and proud.

scottyboro Posted on 19/02/2008 19:00
Are You English or British?

Welsh 1st, British 2nd. Dont hate England and support an English club side. I always support all the home countries when they are playing foreign teams. OK I admit I am not to keen on the England rugby team but thats about it. We are all Brits but have our own identity.

bigrichardthe4th Posted on 19/02/2008 19:01
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iam english and proud,..........and iam sure a man from japan france spain america ,would be proud of ther nations,,,,

scottyboro Posted on 19/02/2008 19:02
Are You English or British?

Holgate,
and why shouldnt the signs be in welsh and English ? It is Wales after all. If you go to France do you expect the signs to be in English ? LOL.

HolgateEnd Posted on 19/02/2008 19:03
Are You English or British?

Which one scotty - Liverpool, or Man U?

Dont suppose you can claim to hate the english if you support one of our sides. Dont believe for one second that you cheer for england when we play a match though fella!!

HolgateEnd Posted on 19/02/2008 19:05
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As for the signs, if the english wasnt on them already then fair enough, no arguement. But for the english to be on them and for your little scrotes to go round covering it over is bad crack mate!

If it was up to me, there'd be an unbreachable brick wall at the England/Scotland and England/Wales borders!!

Rod100 Posted on 19/02/2008 19:07
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i'm as english as king george [;)]

scottyboro Posted on 19/02/2008 19:08
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Nice one Holgate, Boro of course. I always cheer England on when they are at the world cups etc. I was in a pub in France watching the world cup game against Brazil and was gutted for you lot. This years Euros will be rubbish without England. You will find most Welsh people who like football will cheer for England.

Sea_Harrier Posted on 19/02/2008 19:09
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Rod,
You know that he was German. [:O]

HolgateEnd Posted on 19/02/2008 19:12
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[;)]

You must be from one of the civilised towns then mate, not from portmadog (sp?). I sat in the beer garden when there was an England rugby match on the tv when we were there for our jollies, and all through the English national anthem I could hear the booing from inside the pub!!!

Rod100 Posted on 19/02/2008 19:13
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of course.

it's classic blackadder mate.

"what you mean your fathers german, your fathers father was german......."

scottyboro Posted on 19/02/2008 19:20
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Holgate, I am from Pontypool in South Wales which may have a different attitude from the North but I can only speak from what I have seen. Everyone should respect other countries anthems and I always do and never boo.

mikeboro Posted on 19/02/2008 19:54
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im English but as my passport also says, im British too. English first though!

SirLofty Posted on 19/02/2008 19:55
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English

(Not fully though)

LemmyKilmister Posted on 19/02/2008 20:00
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Ich bin ein Englander.
Actually English of Welsh descent.

MoggasDog Posted on 19/02/2008 20:00
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since i feel no affinity with the southerners and have much more in common with jocks and taffs - mainly due to us all suffering repeated violent rapes by thatcher - i am quite ashamed to be english.

I AM BRITISH.

but i am BORO first. above all other things i am proud to come from the boro.

neilg Posted on 19/02/2008 20:06
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quarter irish, with a boro shirt on in a city whose team play in blue and white
they eat cobs not bread buns
they have scratchings not scraps
they have bubble and squeek not penak
they have pukka pies not newbolds...

but the missionery work goes on :-)
com on boro!

LemmyKilmister Posted on 19/02/2008 20:09
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Sounds like Chesterfield to me!

neilg Posted on 19/02/2008 20:10
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not far off!.......scenery makes up for it though. :-)

Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 19/02/2008 20:19
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English, only those born north of the border are British. [:D]

Muff Posted on 19/02/2008 20:51
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English.
Nuff said.

Uncle_harry Posted on 19/02/2008 21:23
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its a false question isnt it.

I'm English and British and a Teessider and a Yorkshireman and a Northerner and a European, identity isnt just made up of one label

Nasty_Pasty Posted on 19/02/2008 21:26
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i'm neither, i'm a human being

Joe_Laidlaw Posted on 19/02/2008 21:38
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Ferkin hell Harry, are we twins? [:D]

LemmyKilmister Posted on 19/02/2008 21:39
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"WHO ARE YOU? OOH OOH OOH OOH!"

Joe_Laidlaw Posted on 19/02/2008 21:42
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I'm a right mixture.

Mothers side from Ireland and fathers side are from Wales and Montserrat.

Am I English or British? You make your own mind up.

borobetty Posted on 19/02/2008 21:47
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British - Scottish Nana.

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 19/02/2008 23:03
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Born in Middlesbrough, therefore English, but of Northern Irish descent. My passport says British and my allegiance is to the BRITISH crown. England is not an independent sovereign nation. We have a British monarchy, a British parliament, British armed forces. The sovereign nation that we all belong too is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Our flag is the Union Flag, our head of state is HM Queen Elizabeth II, our national anthem is God Save the Queen.

Like the Yorkshire/Teesside debate, the two aren't mutually exclusive. If you are English you are British whether you like it or not.

LemmyKilmister Posted on 19/02/2008 23:05
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My passport says Gibraltar so what does that make me?

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 19/02/2008 23:08
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But you said earlier you're English of Welsh descent. I think that makes you Heinz 57.

LemmyKilmister Posted on 19/02/2008 23:10
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Nah, just joshing mate...it was just issued in Gib that's all!

Dibzzz Posted on 19/02/2008 23:11
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English till I die!

ProudToComeFromTeesside Posted on 19/02/2008 23:13
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Well Gib is British, despite what some degos might say.

Borobabe2K8 Posted on 20/02/2008 00:41
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English and bloody proud
Fook British

Rauko Posted on 20/02/2008 00:51
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Do we have so little pride in ourselves that we need to class ourselves with labels which are primarly used to divide us?

I'm me .. if others want to class me as White, English or British .. let them .. but to me .. I'm just me and your just you and I personally couldn't give a fook about labels ..





zaphod Posted on 20/02/2008 02:05
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I'm proud to be English. My ancestors going back 200 years are all English, which must be pretty unusual, but I'm proud to be British, too, as the English account for 83% of the British!

English people should show their pride by not descending to the petty hatreds that characterise the Scots in particular. What a bunch of whingers they are. It's just an inferiority complex and I'd be very happy to let the Scots have their independence (including Berwick), so they can whinge at each other instead of us.

neilg Posted on 20/02/2008 03:45
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lemmy.....theres a presenter on british forces broadcasting service on the rock who supports the boro. il find his name and post it.

i think the rock apes are related to some of the posters on here! com on boro! :-)

BrokenLance Posted on 20/02/2008 08:22
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English for me.

The Scots gave up on 'Britain' a long time ago, and refer to themselves as Scottish, not British. Their newspapers are called Scottish This and Scottish That, while ours remain blindly nondescript, for fear of upsetting someone.

Britain is more of a melting-pot than a country these days. I'm all in favour of rebuilding Hadrian's Wall-higher, and with machine gun posts, and let's try something similar with Wales.

Liamo Posted on 20/02/2008 13:20
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I think George Bernard Shaw summed it up rather well:

"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."

neilg Posted on 20/02/2008 13:22
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nationalism, like patriotism is "the last refuge of the scoundrel2.

now who said that?


Liamo Posted on 20/02/2008 16:22
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I don't know what the h*** is going on here. Every time I post something, half the post gets cut off the first time I post it. Then I have to come back later and edit the post to get the actual wording that I wanted to appear.

Uncle_harry Posted on 20/02/2008 16:25
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These islands have always been a 'melting pot'-its one of our greatest assets - the hyphen joins the 'Anglo' and the 'Saxon'