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MightyDuck Posted on 16/11/2009 14:42
Tailor made Suits

anyone got any experience? i want a really nice made to measure suit. no budget

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 14:43
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Me too.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:03
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Gieves and Hawkes, Saville Row or Victoria Quarter in Leeds.

Starting price around the £800-900 mark, with an upwards budget of around £1500.

You wont regret it....

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 15:09
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Andersons or Huntsmans (if you own an oil company).

Don't expect change from 2k for the real McCoy.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:10
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Except Andersons and Huntsman do bespoke rather than Made to measure, which was what was asked for.

MightyDuck Posted on 16/11/2009 15:20
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have Gieves & Hawkes got a shop in leeds?

have you got one of their suits?

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:20
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Yes and Yes I've got a few both made to measure and off the peg.

one_man_clique Posted on 16/11/2009 15:21
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What a complete waste of money.

MightyDuck Posted on 16/11/2009 15:26
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i want to treat myself for my wedding. i dont want a nashy top hat & tails hire suit that doesnt fit. i want something really smart. thanks for the advice, i'm defo going to go there.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:27
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[^] much what I did.

Bernie_was_right Posted on 16/11/2009 15:29
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Whats the difference between bespoke, and made to measure?

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:32
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Bespoke means made exactly to a customer's requirements using a new pattern.

Made to measure means taking an existing pattern and altering it to fit the customers specific requirements.

That and about a grand....

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 15:35
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Lizard
"Huntsman do bespoke rather than Made to measure, which was what was asked for."

Smart arse, Huntsman do made to measure, in fact if you open their website you'll see their made to measure service advertised on the home page.

I can provide a link or even put you in touch with an ex tailor of theirs if you like.

Lets not have a XXXXXXing contest.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 15:37
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in Teesside?

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:38
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Made to measure for £2k - that's steep.

You can get bespoke elsewhere on the row for not much more.

You got any made to measure from them OTM?

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 15:44
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Thomas Mahon, works out of Cumbria now. Ex Andersons.

Look at his site, it'll tell you all you need to know.


Link: link

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:45
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On the subject of ex-Saville Row tailors dont go to Ray Stowers in Liberty - I got my wedding shirts and ties made there and the quality wasnt what I'd expect when paying those sort of prices.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 15:48
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Teesside?

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:50
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Probably not, I think Psyche might do it but havent been in there for years.

If you're paying upwards of a grand is Leeds or even London not worth paying a vist to a couple of times to get fitted up and collect?

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 15:52
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No, I haven't got time for that.

I suppose it will have to be made over here.

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 15:54
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Corcaigh, if you're asking if you can get a good made to measure suit on Teesside I'd have to say that yes I'm sure you can but wouldn't have a clue where.

If you are asking have I bought a made to measure suit on Teesside I'd have to say no I haven't.


slipshod Posted on 16/11/2009 15:56
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Just go to McArthur Glen and get a Hugo Boss, Paul Smith, Gieves and Hawkes, Ralph Lauren to name a few off the rack for around £200 - £300 saves a fortune.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:57
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"saves a fortune"

But isnt made to measure.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 15:57
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Cheers lads.

I haven't had one made to measure in Teesside since the 70's.

It's for my wedding. Was looking at this site but I thought I could get one knocked up at home.


Link: what do you think?

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 15:58
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I think I saw PinkPonce in that on Saturday night.

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 15:59
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Slipshod

Buying a poorly made suit because it has a trashy label on it is the worst advice you could possibly give.


Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 16:00
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Nice little number isn't it. The Poodle's gone up in my estimation if he's been decked out like that [:D]

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 16:01
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From onthemap's link:-

"These cost around £100 to £600. The production systems for these is so slick, a suit is literally made in minutes. My first boss, Mike Wigglesworth of Redmayne once very kindly took me to visit a clothing factory to witness this mechanization. What sticks in my mind the most about that day, apart from the disconcerting efficiency of the machines, was the fact that designer-label brands were coming off the same production line as the “apparently” far less exclusive makes, such as Marks & Spencer [For the money, the British high street retailer, Marks & Spencer makes as good a suit as anyone. I rate them highly]."

I've said the same about M&S many times on here.

slipshod Posted on 16/11/2009 16:01
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As long as he isn't 7ft or 3ft 3 and weighs 15 clem he should be able to get one thats fits just fine[:P]

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 16:03
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M&S have an excellent range of styles and sizes. I've bought a few from them.

Bernie_was_right Posted on 16/11/2009 16:04
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Dewhirst in Dormo make suits for M&S and have a factory Shop. I`ve had a few M&S suits from there, average price £40!!
Only difference is the M&S Label has been cut out.

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 16:05
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It's true that M&S do offer excellent suits at very competitive prices.

Certainly a better option than some of the trash turned out by the designer label crowd, but the opening poster said he didn't have a budget and if money isn't a problem then it's Hunstmans or Andersons (IMO).


one_man_clique Posted on 16/11/2009 16:06
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Why any bloke would want to spend more than £200 on a suit is beyond me. Wedding day or not, it's a ridiculous amount of money.

*astonished*

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 16:07
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The same reason some grown men choose to spend money on computer games or games consoles.

* astonished *

one_man_clique Posted on 16/11/2009 16:08
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Because a game only costs £30 and you get years of enjoyment out of it.


The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 16:10
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You might, I wouldnt even get 10 minutes enjoyment out of it.

Ridiculous amount of money to spend on what is in reality is designed for teenagers.


one_man_clique Posted on 16/11/2009 16:13
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Well, it's an 18 certificate so it must be designed for 18 and 19 year olds then.

You can't compare £30 on a game to a two grand suit that you're only gonna wear a few times.


Piggy Posted on 16/11/2009 16:14
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It would be very dull if we all liked the same things.

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 16:15
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You wouldn't buy a Mini if you could afford a Bentley would you?

The guy said he didn't have a budget btw, which would indicate he could afford something a bit special.

Btw sitting on a play station doesn't require anything other than tracksuit bottoms and a string vest, so I see where you're coming from.

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 16:15
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I can.

One you think is value for money and I think is a complete waste.

One you think is a complete waste and I think is teriffic value for money.

BTW:- How do you know you'll only wear it "a few times"?

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 16:17
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'You wouldn't buy a Mini if you could afford a Bentley would you?'


With my parking abilities, yes. I wouldn't buy either to be honest.

Looks like it's a crawl around the Hispanic tailors for me.

MightyDuck Posted on 16/11/2009 16:30
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you'll probably keep a really smart suit for most of your life so spending £2k should work out cheaper than hiring one in the long term.

a computer game is updated every 6 months to a year and you need to buy the console.

one_man_clique Posted on 16/11/2009 16:33
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You only need to buy one console, i've had mine three years now.

And it's not a case of not being able to afford one, i still don't think i'd bother if i was a millionaire. It's just a bit of material at the end of the day.

mattyk50 Posted on 16/11/2009 16:36
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i wouldnt want to wear the same item of clothing in 10years time, no matter how well it fitted me.

styles and fashions change with time

Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 16/11/2009 16:38
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I bought a nice Hugo Boss suit in Schipol when I was bored. Fits very well indeed.

Also got a few quid knocked off, a free cK belt and a Scalf for the missus for about 300 euros.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 16:39
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Too true, your body changes so much, even if you look after it.

MightyDuck Posted on 16/11/2009 16:41
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how much has the style of a suit changed in the last 100 years?

i'm not getting something shiney silver like the scrotes who spend the night in harveys

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 16:42
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"styles and fashions change with time"

Depends, if you get a good quality classic suit it will never be "in fashion" nor "out of fashion" and so you'll be able to wear it for many many years.


Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 16:43
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Mighty Duck, do you have a wardrobe of this attire?


Link: 100 years ago

one_man_clique Posted on 16/11/2009 16:45
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People can't tell what suit you're wearing unless you have the label sticking out.

They all look the same.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 16:46
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only on the screen [:D]

The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 16/11/2009 16:50
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"They all look the same"

You're wrong.


Link: Compare and contrast

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 16:50
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The suits are made in such a way that they can be altered over the years (within reason of course).

It depends on your lifestyle whether you can justify spending a lot on suits, I wear them every day and my only other business expenses are laptops and cars so for me it makes sense to buy whatever I can afford.


one_man_clique Posted on 16/11/2009 16:54
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You don't need to be Gok Wan to work that picture out.

MightyDuck Posted on 16/11/2009 16:55
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Corcaigh,

In retort.

link below


Link: H Huntsman

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 17:04
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didn't find the gallery [sad]

What I have noticed about the High St. gents clothes shops over here is that the range of sizes in shirts far outweighs those at home, along with the neck size you get a full array of arm lengths.

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 17:05
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"You wouldn't buy a Mini if you could afford a Bentley would you?"

you probably would if you liked minis and didn't feel so insecure as to need to publicly declare how well off you were every five minutes...

Chris_From_Pitchside Posted on 16/11/2009 17:06
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Are people really getting into an argument about people wanting to spend money on a suit?

If he wants to look super-smart for a special occasion what's wrong with that?

Onthemap, I'm slightly curious as to how you know so much about suits? Are you a tailor or something yourself?

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 17:08
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Of course Scrote, you'd also live in a one bed flat in Grangetown if you could afford the Grove.

Not that there's anything wrong with Grangetown, but you get the point presumably?

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 17:15
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No Chris, I just wear suits a lot of the time.

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 17:16
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i get the point and it's not even close to the one i was making

the only reason for buying a bentley is to declare wealth - if you really like driving then you'd get something sporty - if you do a lot of driving then there's a lot of comfortable cars way below the bentley price tag

you are basically buying the marque in the same was as all the plebs you despise wearing their nike tracksuits

buying a house in the grove as opposed to a decent terraced house in saltburn (ignoring location) would be a better analogy

once you get to a certain point in terms of security any increase is purely for show

a bespoke suit is actually the opposite of buying a bentley as it doesn't declare wealth to any but the most discerning due to the lack of any external labelling

The_Dude Posted on 16/11/2009 17:20
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[rle]oh dear, people wax lyrical about paying a grand for a silly tailor made ponces costume

does wearing a suit

a.made you feel more important
b.give you the stupid idea people will think your more important
c.give you the incorrect impression that wearing a silly suit makes you better than people who just dress normally

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 17:22
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'than people who just dress normally'

How do normal people dress, Dude?

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 17:24
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"the only reason for buying a bentley is to declare wealth"

You've surveyed the whole planet have you? what about buying a Bentley because you like Bentleys (or Ferrari's or Astons or...).

"buying a house in the grove as opposed to a decent terraced house in saltburn (ignoring location) would be a better analogy"

No it wouldn't, it would be exactly the same, the location or the type of car is irrelevant, the point is that most of us choose to live in as comfortable a manner as our income will allow.
Nothing in the slightest pretentious about it, in fact getting angry as you obviously are over matters like this just tells me that you'd be in a Bentley at the drop of a hat.




The_Dude Posted on 16/11/2009 17:30
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[rle]in normal, understated casual wear that costs reasonable amount of money, not shallow, look at me in my 2 grand pin stripe morons costume

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 17:38
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angry? how so?

the_dude has it arse end first as well - a 2 grand non-labelled suit confers no wealth status unless people actively brag about it

buying-up is very much an aspirational middle class thing that personally i have little time for

if i need something i get it

if i want something i decide whether the expense is worth it to me and buy or not based on that alone

i don't buy something just to show how much disposable income (or debt) i've accrued

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 17:50
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Scrote
"i don't buy something just to show how much disposable income (or debt) i've accrued"

And who does? I suppose Steve Gibson owns a football club simply because he wants to flaunt his wealth, he should still be in Park End perhaps?

Face it, you're judging people on what they choose to spend their money on, you can't afford it so they shouldn't be allowed it.

And you can't see how labelling those doing it as shallow is pathetic and irony personified!

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 17:52
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Double rant

The_Dude Posted on 16/11/2009 18:03
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[rle]arse up, not really, just my opinion, and you have yours

if you think spending 2 grand on a suit that doesnt serve any purposeful use whatsoever other than looking like a corporate moron, then thats your opinion, i wouldnt spend 2 grand on 5 years worth of clothing let alone 1, poncy , completely useless piece of 'fashion'

you probably agree with rich women spending 2 grand on gucci hand bags using the same doctrine

ffs, you can have a good holiday for 2 grand

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 18:04
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twice the ignorance... [;)]

a few quotes and my opinion - might make it easier to understand

1. "Buying a poorly made suit because it has a trashy label on it is the worst advice you could possibly give." - agree

2. "It's true that M&S do offer excellent suits at very competitive prices.

Certainly a better option than some of the trash turned out by the designer label crowd" - agree

3. "You wouldn't buy a Mini if you could afford a Bentley would you?" - disagree

4. "Btw sitting on a play station doesn't require anything other than tracksuit bottoms and a string vest" - agree

5. "It depends on your lifestyle whether you can justify spending a lot on suits, I wear them every day and my only other business expenses are laptops and cars so for me it makes sense to buy whatever I can afford." - agree

so there's only point 3 i disagree on (and point 4 where my agreement is with the statement rather than the (assumed) intended sentiment

point 3 (and the stuff about the grove) is purely to do with showing-off wealth - comfort can be had at a fraction of the cost - moving ten miles up the road to a similar sized house does not improve the comfort value - it might make you feel better but that's to do with monetary satisfaction, not standard of living

and some people might like bentleys but is that any different to liking paul smith?

i'm happy for anyone to buy anything they can afford (without getting into arguments as to where people get their money from - e.g. bankers) but you made a specific point about buying something purely because of what it represented - and that i disagree with

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 18:06
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Why are you so bothered about what others choose to spend their money on, I for one don't give a rats arse what you spend yours on.

Maybe you stick that amount up your nose every 12 months, I honestly couldn't care less, it's your problem - deal with it.

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 18:07
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the_dude - it does serve a good pupose

1. it fits and is therefore comfortable - especally useful if you have to wear a suit all day

2. it is anti-fashion in the sense that it is designed not to need replacing

buying a gucci bag is the same as buying the bentley vs the mini - it is form over function (unless it has a special TARDIS style pocket somewhere)

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 18:09
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mappy - i'm not bothered about what people spend their money on

i'm bothered by the attitude that says having money makes you somewhat better than people that don't - and that you therefore need to show off the fact (where you doesn't necessarily refer to YOU individually)

The_Dude Posted on 16/11/2009 18:11
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[rle]really, and why is it form over function, you could argue that the individual using the bag uses it daily for a purpose and is designed not to need replacing.

Very subjective analysis of what is and what isn't purposeful


Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 18:16
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if the bag is of such high quality that it doesn't need replacing then fair enough - but i'd imagine a gucci (or similar) bag is bought for reasons of fashion and will therefore be replaced when the fashion changes whether it needs to be or not

the label is a declaration of wealth - it isn't an indication of quality or otherwise

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 18:20
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So tell me Dude, what did you wear for your wedding?

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 18:23
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sorry for hijacking the thread MightyDuck

good luck with the wedding CTC [smi]

The_Dude Posted on 16/11/2009 18:24
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[rle]really, considering most of these bags dont have clear labels to distinguish there manufacturer, how can you say that the label is a decleration of wealth, surely doesnt the bag fal into the same category as the undistinguishable suit?




The_Dude Posted on 16/11/2009 18:25
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[:D]ha ha ha, wedding, give your head a shake, what am i, stupid

onthemap Posted on 16/11/2009 18:30
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Scrote you started by arguing that anyone who buys a Bentley does so as a show of wealth, they don't, some people may do but not all.

No one is holding a gun to anyones head to purchase anything, it's about freedom of choice.
I happen to think that buying the best you can afford tends to often work out more cost effective in the long run, quality lasts longer in most cases, whether you buy the best TV or the best suit it tends to last longer and is usually better value for money.

Buying for the sake of buying is I agree futile, but if my particular luxury in life is a good holiday,a bespoke suit or just the odd flutter on the horses then as long as I'm not hurting anyone what's the problem?

The lad started the thread asking about a tailor made suit for a special occasion, he's maybe getting married, I don't know, but what's wrong with splashing out on what may be a once in a lifetime thing?


Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 18:36
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'what am i, stupid'

[^][:D]

The_Dude Posted on 16/11/2009 18:46
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[rle]class, i bet the long winter evenings fly by corcaigh, in your souless, loveless marriage, mind you, the amount of time to waste posting XXXXXXe on here, im not suprised your sex life is none existant and your lass shuns you

[8D]abide

Scrote Posted on 16/11/2009 19:07
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"Scrote you started by arguing that anyone who buys a Bentley does so as a show of wealth, they don't, some people may do but not all."

no - i argued against buying a bentley vs a mini purely because it was a bentley - that is a show of wealth

saving up to buy a bentley 'cos you want one is no different to saving up to buy nike trackie bottoms - and i'm all in favour of people being allowed to do what they want without being castigated for their choice

and that includes 30 year olds buying computer games

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 16/11/2009 19:35
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'long winter evenings'

It was 80 degrees last night when we were sat by the pool.

I post on here when I'm at work. You'll find out all about that when you join the call centre on leaving school.

Good luck [^]