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littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 10:57

Excellent article on the subject:

"So the homophobes have resorted to other tactics. One that has been growing over the past year is to claim that gay people who are trying to stop bullying and intimidation are "the real bullies", trying to "silence" poor embattled homophobes.

The logic of this argument is rarely spelled out. Were Martin Luther King and the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan equally bigoted? The Grand Dragon was intolerant of black people; King was intolerant of racism. When you put it put like this, the bogus nature of this way of framing the debate becomes clear. To one side, there are people who believe an entire group of human beings is inferior and deserve lesser rights, simply because of a naturally occurring and harmless difference. To the other side, there is a group of straight and gay people who say sexual orientation is a trivial subject and we should all be treated the same. Yes, both sides should have the right to speak freely – but nobody should pretend there is a moral equivalence."

Got to say, I've seen similar tactics used in racism arguments on here.

Link: Homophobic attacks.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 10:58

where is Nick Griffin when you need him?

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 11:00

Hompohobia is an inappropriate word as it implies fear of homosexuals. I don't fear, approve or dissparove of homosexuals. I do however think it has became more socially acceptable and that more confused vulnerable people may choose to be gay than would have done in the past. This doesn't really bother me but if I had a son or daughter who was gay I would be gutted but i'd hope they were happy in whatever they chose

borolad259 Posted on 04/11/2009 11:06

You only have to drop in on a thread featuring Pink Ponce and his detractors to see rampant homophobia on FMTTM.

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 11:07

Of course, I'm just trying to get a ton. And I look forward to being branded a bummer.

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 11:08

Nowt wrong with botters, as long as they do it in their own homes and not in public toilets [^]

buttermyarse Posted on 04/11/2009 11:09

God created Adam and Eve....He didnt create Adam and Steve[;)]

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 11:11

Marlon, you seem to have cute little words for groups of people, like splitarses and botters. What do you call black and Asian people?


gravyboat Posted on 04/11/2009 11:12

'People who are confused might choose to be gay'

Quality [:D]

'God created Adam and Eve'.

Not in my world he didn't.

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 11:12

Why do gays need to 'come out' then all of a sudden be extremely camp?

i didnt 'come out' as a hetro and i dont feel the need to be extremely macho all of the time.

homophobia is as relavant to racism as it is to gingerism or fatism etc etc

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 11:14

Blacks & Asians actually Jimmy.

i.e. that lezzer Asian splittie who's black mate is a botter

gravyboat Posted on 04/11/2009 11:17

'Why do gays need to 'come out' then all of a sudden be extremely camp?'


scooby Posted on 04/11/2009 11:18

People don't choose to be gay, in the same way I didn't choose to like women.

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 11:23

they do choose.

You dont choose to like women, its just nature.

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 11:25

I believe people are born gay.

I think of it as a long scale, one end is men, the far end women. People who are gay are somewhere towards the centre, hence a lot of gay men being effeminate and lesbians being manly.

Its not a disease, they are what they are.

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 11:25

Cool. [^]

scooby Posted on 04/11/2009 11:26

So there's these gay blokes who are really dying to shag birds but have decided to shag blokes instead? Presumably just to be awkward.

Must be hard to stick to liking blokes if the urge to like women is that prevalent.

I don't think you've really thought this out. Well, not that argument at least.

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 11:29

i just thought it was a fact. look at animals, some bloke animals probably do bum each other now and then but they always want to bang females. being full time gay isnt natural, its a choice

scooby Posted on 04/11/2009 11:36

Full time gay?

Why would anyone pretend to be gay?

borolad259 Posted on 04/11/2009 11:38

God Botherers don't like homosexualists, or trannies, apparently.

Link: bbc news transexual jesus

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 11:40

I always believe that bisexuals are just desperate greedy gets where the premise of 'Any hole will do' is prevelant.

Holgate_Hero_ Posted on 04/11/2009 11:42

reminds me of trotters trying to claim that anyone who opposes racism are bigots too [:D]

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 11:42

I'm sure there are people who may have sexual attraction to men and women who in the past would be gay or straight depending on which they felt most comfortable with. Nowadays you can shag who you want and call yourself bisexual.

Big_Ted_Church Posted on 04/11/2009 11:43

It's just not natural.

If you like it up the @rs£, what's wrong with the wife?

It's clearly a fashion thing, and i'm glad i'm not wearing those fashionable shoes.

Holgate_Zero Posted on 04/11/2009 11:54

Where you find the Homophobes like Flar, you'll also usually find racist like Trotter and Vosene.

wee_daft_boris Posted on 04/11/2009 11:57

My only problem with homosexuals is with the overly camp variety. Why they feel the need to constantly advertise the fact they are gay is beyond me. They are the equivalent of the builder wolf whistling at any woman unfortunate to wander past them when they are pretending to work! We all know what modern society thinks of the stereotypical builder too.

gravyboat Posted on 04/11/2009 12:08

'Its clearly a fashion thing'

Good God.

The_same_as_before Posted on 04/11/2009 12:09

The problem with words with 'phobia is they are all encompassing.

Let people live as they want it has nothing to do with me. But yes I find blokes slobbering on infront of me embaressing.

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 12:13

'People who are confused might choose to be gay'

Choose to be gay is the wrong way to put it (no pun intended). What I meant was that a man who has some sexual attraction to another man is more likely to choose to actually shag that man than he would have done in the past before homosexuality was seen as socially acceptable

gravyboat Posted on 04/11/2009 12:14

So what?

scooby Posted on 04/11/2009 12:18

So it's *worse* now because people won't live a lie and pretend to their wife they are not gay?

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 12:19

Yes. If everyone was gay the human race would die out. Plus campness gets on my nerves. Fukk off you camp XXXXXXs

The_same_as_before Posted on 04/11/2009 12:21

Towz, your making yourself look silly.

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 12:22

No, what looks silly is men mincing about acting like women

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 12:23

The world's over-populated anyway. It's Mother Nature redressing the balance.

We should all be gay vegetarians and everything would be great.

The_same_as_before Posted on 04/11/2009 12:25

The world's no where near overpopulated, we can feed 3 times the number of people.

Greedy yes, overpopulated no.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 12:26

the world isnt over populated at all the problem is that we all populate small areas.

spread out more and everything wouold be fine no need for the gays to balance it.

susy Posted on 04/11/2009 12:30

Spreading out would mean we have to deforrest even more damaging the world, enhililating habitat for even more animals just so we can have another go at Gays!!!1 FFS its not an illness, its just the way some people are.

gravyboat Posted on 04/11/2009 12:30

So, the reality is, your entire argument is that you just don't like mincers?

Well constructed.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 12:32

no we wouldnt susy, there is planty of land out there we could populate without damaging habitat.

i'm not bashing the gays, i just think over population is a terrible excuse.

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 12:33


littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 12:36

I knew you'd jump on that one, TSAB. [;)]

In theory, if everyone was to live frugal lives like Africans and most Asians, then you may be right. Unfortunately, getting the Western world to do that...well, there's no chance, is there? And if the shoe was on the other foot, I'm sure the poor would be the same. And we aren't just talking about feeding people, are we? Other resources would be needed from this finite planet for the additional 12 to 14 billion people too. And when you see the mess the current 7 billion are making of the place...the mind boggles. Where is this additional land? Is it in Antartica or the Sahara or under the sea or on the moon? All the good land is taken up, and it's not good forever when we live the way we do. Many of the desert areas of the Middle East used to be fertile and were farmed to death.

Anyway, this thread is about homophobia, not Malthusian theory.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 12:41

littlejimmy bans births shocker!!


mickbrown Posted on 04/11/2009 12:43

It's a fact that homophobes are more likely to be turned on by gay porn than non homophobes.

The lady doth protest and all that.

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 12:44

Are you volunteering for sterlisation, Raz? It's for the greater good.

Evil Posted on 04/11/2009 12:45

This thread is absolutely superb.

Capybara Posted on 04/11/2009 12:47

Where is this additional land? Golf courses obviously. They serve no real function.

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 12:49

Capy. [:D]

Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 12:53

I heard botters wear a lot of aftershave to mask the smell of chit on there coks [^]

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 12:58

"It's a fact that homophobes are more likely to be turned on by gay porn than non homophobes"

How do you know that Mick, do you hang around with a lot of homophobes who watch gay porn? Queer lot you Bolton folk (no pun intended)

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 12:59

littlejimmy is it voluntary?

you sounded more like a chinese dictator

Rodney_Trotter Posted on 04/11/2009 13:01

Ha seen the scaredy cat fanny H_H failing to understand even the basics of the English language.

Bigot - A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

Is this not Holgate_The_Cowardy_Custard_Hero to a tea??? Bigot!!!!!

Bernie_was_right Posted on 04/11/2009 13:01

Can`t it be coached out of them?

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 13:03

Xie xie ni.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 04/11/2009 13:04

I disagree that homophobia is directed towards Pink Ponce. Never seen that and even if it is then it's hopelessly missing the point.

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 13:04

"where there's greenery, there's queenery!"

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 13:04

i bet you are or have been heavily religious littlejimmy.

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:05

''littlejimmy is it voluntary?''
What? his gag reflex? [:D]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 13:06

we have an aging population, something that failed to get a mention

Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 13:06

sticking your weener in another man is just plain wrong [V] sorry

mickbrown Posted on 04/11/2009 13:10

Towz - they did a study somewhere where they put sensors on the subjects old man. They were then shown gay porn.

The levels of arousal in the homophobes was greater than the non homophobes.

It's a fact luvvie.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 13:12

so we just need to cure them then mick, is that what you are saying?

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:14

wasnt AIDS meant to be the cure?

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 13:17

Raz, you're way off mark. I'm probably 98.5% atheist.

Well done, Mighty Duck. You win the special prize...a Barbara Streisand CD.

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:17

i was hoping for the Steps Greatest Hits album [:D]

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 13:18

Im not homophobic but I do dog myself everytime I have a gypsies in a public toilet!

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 13:19

Lads working in call centres and offices has lead to a big rise in bottorism.

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 13:19

I always had you down as being stuck in a massive closet Ridsdale.

rob_fmttm Posted on 04/11/2009 13:21

There are a couple of comments on here that are so over the top that I'm now thinking do I really want Vosene and MightyDuck posting anymore on this site.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 13:23

No, I am comfortable with my 72% straight, 26% bi and 2% bottor sexual profile.

Feels like a pair of pink suede shoes in fact.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 13:23

littlejimmy you sound like you are in denial.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 13:25

Rob is waving his lilac hankie about.

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 13:25

Honestly, reading some of the comments on here you would think some people had never even seen another man's erect penis!

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:25

away Rob, the AIDS thing wasnt very nice but it was a joke with good timing and Frankie Boyle would have got away with it

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:28

and we're related so you couldnt do that to your family could you?

Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 13:29

Unfortunatly thats the truth. Men do these things.
It sounds disgusting because it is.
Ban me if you want.

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 13:30

OK Raz. I'll remember to look you up when I come out of the closet. [:X]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 13:32

maybe if your religion allowed you to wear a condom you wouldnt have this over population worry.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 13:32

I am begining to see Rob as a less elegant Peter Tachell sort of figure.

Except Rob isn't gay, not the way he dresses.

ExSqueezeMe Posted on 04/11/2009 13:32

OOH You bitch! [:X]

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:34

Vosene it's not disgusting.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 13:35

How do you know Dr?

ExSqueezeMe Posted on 04/11/2009 13:36

Must be just like avin a gr8 big poo but in reverse I reckon!

actually dat wud hurt! [V]

Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 13:36

I disagree sweetheart [:X]

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:37

anything involving poo isnt very nice. my mate used to clean the drains for northumbria water and he hated it [:D]

Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 13:41

I throw shoes out when i stand in the stuff.
I hardly want to make love to it.

Genghis_Khan Posted on 04/11/2009 13:43

Rob your moderation is becoming as big a joke as it used to be 5 years ago, there is a poster on here (I won't name him, we all know who it is). Who refers to people as sex offenders on a daily basis, stalks peoples details away from this site, posts photos of them blah blah, then you ban people for being homophobic?

Why is it you protect him so much? Is he your lover? I'm not even bothered about him not being banned, but don't use your 'authority' when it suits you and then claim some moral highground.

If you cared about decency on here he'd be banned daily - but as he's clearly one of the old get-along-gang, he stays.

hypocritical beyond belief.

*puts down handbag*

Anybody fancy a bum?

Say thank you Jimmy I guaranteed your ton.

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 13:43

The fact that recieving a length up the wrong un over a sustained period of time, knacks the arse muscles and you end up having to wear a tampax up there, can't be natural.

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 13:44

Marlon - Is it true you eventually need to use a lolly stick when you lay a cable too?

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 13:46

Not heard of that one flar, put a fao Ponce and I'm sure he has a 'friend' who will know.

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 13:46

what you mean to say Vosene is that you find it disgusting. What you said was; it is disgusting. You do not speak for me.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 13:46

Not a bum Genghis, but I will give you a manly shake of hands.

Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 13:50

Dr, if you like to write love letters in skid marks thats up to you.

rob_fmttm Posted on 04/11/2009 13:52

Ghenghis - what makes you think he is still posting?

Plenty of copyists about of course.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 13:55

Did he have a traceable IP addess?

Genghis_Khan Posted on 04/11/2009 13:57

That rant was probably a bit harsh because for the most part, excusing your political leaning you do a good job these days. I just can't understand that situation, I know better than most you can't keep anybody away, but a daily ban and he'll tone it down.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 13:59

do you ban by ip address or username?

it would be more advisable to ban the ip address and the username that way the have little chance of coming back on.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 14:00

It would be like Cash for Gold, pop it into an envelope and get £1000 cash back in the post.

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 14:02

What exactly do you mean by that Vosene? It's people like yourself that the article is aimed at.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 14:03

DrBuck are you gay?

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 14:03

Holgate_hero will have ripped his colostomy bag into shreds by now.

At least his mam will give him a bed bath and spent a little extra time on his 'bits'.

borolad259 Posted on 04/11/2009 14:04

Nailed on for a ton wasn't it Jimmy.

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 14:06

Why do you need to know that Raz?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 14:07

as it would help give you a clearer judgement on the situation.

are you gay then?

Capybara Posted on 04/11/2009 14:09

Nailed on for a ton, despite not one response addressing the original point, the original poster's subsidiary point, nor my observation in respect of golf courses.

rob_fmttm Posted on 04/11/2009 14:09

Absolutely none of your business Raz.

Rod100 Posted on 04/11/2009 14:09

nailed on Dr Buck has to be a shirt lifter like.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 14:12

Dr Buck would be a good name for internet bot hunting like.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 14:13

rob like i said i only asked because it would have gave me a greater understanding of his stance on homophobia.

Rod100 Posted on 04/11/2009 14:14

id say hes 100% homma after reading his comments.

Holgate_Zero Posted on 04/11/2009 14:17

Hmmm, Flar "not homophobic"....this thread would suggest otherwise. You're safe with your sXXXXXXing buddies though eh sweetheart.

somethingtodowithdeath Posted on 04/11/2009 14:19

'Up-hill-gardener' threads always get a ton on here, wonder why ?

Rob,post some of your rubbish photography, that should lighten the mood[^]

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 14:30

are you clapping frantically at that thought Zero?

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 14:33

How could my sexual orientation give you a greater understanding of my stance Razmond, you only need to know whether i agree or disagree?
I suspect that you want to know so that you can give out your childish abuse as others above have already.
This board used to be fuelled by heated and informed debate with a bit of good natured abuse thrown in, but now seems to be populated by hate-mongers like yourself and Vosene, with a few notable exceptions of course.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 14:38

if you are gay then i can completly understand your stance regarding homophobia.

if you are not gay then i can still understand it, but it usually comes along with reasoning.

As you are probably gay you dont need a reasoning for your justification.

hope that makes sense.

it's too late in the day for childish abuse from me.

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 14:44

So tell me what is my stance seeing as you can understand it?

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 14:50

Too easy...

Lefty Posted on 04/11/2009 14:51

There should be more golf courses, not less. It civilises people.

There would be no need to lose any of the arable land either, the new holes could be put in place of rail tracks.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 14:54

just so i can get a clearer understanding first, are you gay?

Rod100 Posted on 04/11/2009 14:54

are you trying to groom him like raz?

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 14:56

I think if they built a lot more smaller 9 hole courses, civillisation would flourish as more & more people found the gentile pastime accessible.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 14:56

no and neither am i trying to cure him

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 14:57

wrong thread marlon, we are being gay here.

Holgate-Hero Posted on 04/11/2009 15:01

christ is jabba_khan still crying about people being banned on here?!

seems the hypocrite is incredibly bitter about getting turfed off here so may times

Holgate_Zero Posted on 04/11/2009 15:04

He probably finds it a chore having to chose a new username every 5 minutes.

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 15:05

Going back to the original article.

The author suggests that children in primary schools should be taught that homosexuality is normal.

I can't see many parents wanting their kids brainwashed by the state at such a young age.

That sort of education belongs at secondary level surely?

Holgate-Hero Posted on 04/11/2009 15:05

theres probably a fair few of them around like

Lefty Posted on 04/11/2009 15:06

I think 18 holes is two holes too many anyway.

The_same_as_before Posted on 04/11/2009 15:11

About a year ago a lad on here explained being gay as clearly as he anyine has. 'He didn't fancy women'.

I think he was from Durham and was always a good laugh.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 04/11/2009 15:12

he sounds a bit dull

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 15:51

Just so I can get a clearer understanding Raz, why do you need to know, what bearing does it have on anything?

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 15:53

maybe he vitually checking you out and once you confirm which way you swing he might make his move.

on the other hand, why dont you just say Gay or Nay to end the discussion

DrBuck Posted on 04/11/2009 15:55

Obviously, I wonder why he needs to know. It doesn't seem to have any relevance to me, whereas it does to him.

toxic_bob Posted on 04/11/2009 15:55

Congrats on the ton, Jim, though you'd have got much the same result if your first post had read "Botters, eh?"

ridsdale Posted on 04/11/2009 15:57

Maybe raz is bi-curious?

Holgate_Zero Posted on 04/11/2009 15:57

Or "Poncey eh?" for that matter.

MarlonD Posted on 04/11/2009 16:00

Maybe they should plit the difference and settle on 13 or 14 holes.

littlejimmy Posted on 04/11/2009 16:04

Popped out for some lunch and came back to find my rod has really been nibbled at. Oo-er.

Yeah, thanks GK. [^] I think it would have hit the ton anyway. It already had a PP reference and the addition of a HH reference just nudged it along.

Razmond, you clearly have a difficulty understanding why people speak up against intolerance. I'm also anti-racist but I am very white and caucasian.

All good fun, nonetheless. I'm off to play golf on the Wii.

MightyDuck Posted on 04/11/2009 16:07

9 holes or 18?

borolad259 Posted on 04/11/2009 17:16

I almost spat my tea out reading this pearler from Genghis.
"Rob your moderation is becoming as big a joke as it used to be 5 years ago, there is a poster on here (I won't name him, we all know who it is). Who refers to people as sex offenders on a daily basis, stalks peoples details away from this site, posts photos of them blah blah, then you ban people for being homophobic?"

I wonder if Dave_79 has read it. [:D]

NedKat Posted on 04/11/2009 17:38

Gay people deserve to be as happy as anyone else. They love their partners, so let them marry and adopt children. There's nothing wrong with being homosexual.

The only thing I wonder about, is how come when a man declares himself as being gay, he suddenly becomes a wonderful fashion and design type ?

towz Posted on 04/11/2009 17:48

"They love their partners, so let them marry and adopt children"

No that's sh!t. It's not a normal, healthy environment for a kid to grow up in and as such souldn't pass the adoption criteria

NedKat Posted on 04/11/2009 17:49

Why not ?

You say it's "shyt" .. but what are you're arguments against ... ?

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 17:51

People often think Im gay simply because Im handsome and well dressed.

Oh helloooooooo!!!

rick4974 Posted on 04/11/2009 17:52

I'm not gonna get too deep in this convo but Gays are the most disloyal of partners.

I know a few through work who have one night stands every night when out drinking even though they have a partner at home or out with them. The women are the worst for it too.

There is a lad living in the town called Johnno, who is shagging different Men and Women every night and he thinks it's ok.

Confusion just doesn't sum it up.

NedKat Posted on 04/11/2009 17:53

Classically ... ?

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 17:53

Goes without saying Ned! Think Ben Affleck with a little more panache!

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 04/11/2009 17:54

The openly gay mayoral candidate has picked up most of the votes over here in Houston. Looks like the rednecks are more tolerant than the UK's average knuckle dragger.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 04/11/2009 17:59

'There is a lad living in the town called Johnno, who is shagging different Men and Women every night and he thinks it's ok.'

So Flar's got another name out there in the real world!

flar Posted on 04/11/2009 18:00

anyone on here had gay sex using a wine bottle - would you use a screwcap or corked?

rick4974 Posted on 04/11/2009 18:00


flar Posted on 04/11/2009 18:03


Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 18:33

sexual deviants should not be allowed to adopt kids, truly wrong[V]

rick4974 Posted on 04/11/2009 18:34

Good Edit the Woosh that flew over your head!! Eh?[;)]

NedKat Posted on 04/11/2009 18:34

I know some gay people, and they're a million miles away from being "sexual deviants" ...

Vosene Posted on 04/11/2009 18:37

2. a person or thing that deviates or departs markedly from the accepted norm.

I think the term deviant will suffice

borolad259 Posted on 04/11/2009 19:02

Vosene, as a racist AND a homophobic asshole, deviant describes you rather well.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 05/11/2009 07:28

but littlejimmy you also have issues over people having kids due to over population, so i think your opinions are quite extreme.

speckyget Posted on 05/11/2009 09:54

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2. a person or thing that deviates or departs markedly from the accepted norm.

I think the term deviant will suffice

Aren't 'accepted norms' those things which are permissible in law? Rather than in your own rather unpleasant head?

bighorace Posted on 05/11/2009 10:21

Poofs and Golf in the same thread. Coincidence ?

towz Posted on 05/11/2009 10:24

I would have though an accepted norm is something that the vast majority of people consider to be 'normal' behaviour. When it comes to sexual relations the biological and cultural norm is that it is between a man and a woman therefore calling homosexuality and homosexual acts deviant behaviour seems reasonable to me as it is a deviation form the norm

The_same_as_before Posted on 05/11/2009 10:25

The Who should make a film based on it.

speckyget Posted on 05/11/2009 10:26

I think you're confusing cultural acceptability and statistical norms.

towz Posted on 05/11/2009 10:27

Is coprophillia or necrophillia deviant sexual behaviour?

speckyget Posted on 05/11/2009 10:30

No idea, never thought to check my legal standing on either.

towz Posted on 05/11/2009 10:36

You're avoiding the question. Describing homosexuality as deviant behaviour, while it may sound offensive to some people, is actually etymologically correct

speckyget Posted on 05/11/2009 10:49

I disagree. It all depends what you mean by expressions like 'deviancy' (a pejorative) and normal behaviour. If you take the statistical definition of tending towards a normal distribution, then - fine homosexuality isn't 'normal'.

But the more widely used interpretation is around social acceptability, and the acid test of that is what is allowed in law. If behaviour outrages social mores sufficiently then sooner or later it becomes illegal.