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MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 20:01
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voting for the BNP!
Thats quite some figure, especially when you split the rest of the 78% of voters up between all the other parties.

After all the cr@p spouted on here, about how Griifin was pulled to pieces and made to look a clown etc etc on Question Time, Perhaps Holgay_Hero and his band of sheep, should consider that they could soon well be in the minority in this country, before trying force thier political views on other people. Its about time they gew up and realised political debate is a healthy thing and try not to make every debate a slanging match[^]

(stands back and waits for the usual childish abuse[^][:D])

Genghis_Khan Posted on 24/10/2009 20:04
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I'm quite surprised it's so low. I'd say more than 1 in 5 of the people I meet are moronic fu(kwits.

09_dave_09 Posted on 24/10/2009 20:06
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You can consider a party and not vote for them. In fact how else can you vote properly without considering even for a second every party. If anyone thinks BNP will get 22% of the electrate then they are wrong.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 20:08
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Which people would you consider as NOT been moronic fukcwits then GK?
Perhaps we could split this 78% up into groups and find out which group has the least fukcwits[;)][:D]

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 20:09
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I suppose we could have a debate on the amount of Labour (non skilled) that is brought into the Country.

But when the debate is Championed from the view point of Fascists /Nazis/Bigots and White Supremacist's, its an agenda based on hatred.

Now if a "Normal Sane Political Party" were to open this debate up...then its worth having.

Not BNP[V][xx(]

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 20:09
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The loony left of course.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 20:10
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Dave, im not saying they were going to vote BNP,but it just shows the depth of feeling in this country, that over 22% are even considering voting for them, and, that was after what Holgay and his sheep considered Griffin to have had a political roasting and been made a fool, and an idiot of, on BBC's Question Time..quite an eye opener id say.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 20:11
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The thing is the bnp are getting more savvy and acceptible, if sinn fein can do it, so can they

Tom_Fun Posted on 24/10/2009 20:12
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22% of who? They didn't ask me.

09_dave_09 Posted on 24/10/2009 20:13
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I see what your saying but I find it hard to belive all these poles the result will be the only thing that matters. I certainly dont know more than 2 people that would consider voting them.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 20:13
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people polled

susy Posted on 24/10/2009 20:14
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Its a shame they didnt have it as a proper session on Question time, but armed with all the stuff they did have on Griffin to totally turn on him and make him look a fool... like they do in court on the telly... totally discredit him. Now that would be good telly and it would be good for the other parties too. What happened the other night was mass bullying and although I did enjoy seeing him get a well deserved good kicking, it would have better served us and the BBC if they had been seen to be fairer.

SplendidStuff Posted on 24/10/2009 20:14
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"After all the cr@p spouted on here, about how Griifin was pulled to pieces and made to look a clown etc etc on Question Time"

Is this even open to debate?

ridsdale Posted on 24/10/2009 20:14
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"I find it hard to belive all these poles"



All the Poles I have meet are dead honest.

gerry_mander Posted on 24/10/2009 20:16
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sinn fein had a landslide irish general election victory as far back as 1918.

last night i considered having an indian meal, but then i crossed over the road and went in to the japanese sushi house instead.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 20:17
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''I certainly dont know more than 2 people that would consider voting them.''

or would admit to it maybe?

Did nick griffin say over 60k white people have left london and this country in tha last year and cited overwhelming immigration as the reason? I realise it's a bit hypocritical but a lot of people i know are sick of this country now

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 20:18
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Is this from the same poll by mori which also asked whether you would actually vote for the BNP if an election was called and 3% said yes... down from 6.2% in the last few months... that same poll right?

Still I don't expect you to answer that mick being that you ignored many things I put to you last night.

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 20:18
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A debate by Normal Humans as we have always had.

Not brought to the front by Sub Humans.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 20:19
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Splendid, obviously its open to debate, how else would you explain such a huge rise in the BNPS popularity iof Griffin was made to look such a fool?...come on man...wake up![;)]

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 20:19
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'
sinn fein had a landslide irish general election victory as far back as 1918.'

And they also became acceptable after bombing us for however long.

Hope you enjoyed your meal

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 20:20
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A huge rise...giveover.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 20:21
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Smog, are you on drugs?..i answered everything you asked last night, and what i could'nt find i asked you to ask me again on a single thread..dont you realise there where loads of threads in which i was in debate and its not easy keeping up with every single question. especially when theres half a dozen sheep bleating at me at the same time!
weres this poll you speak off that says the BNP has gone down to 3%?

09_dave_09 Posted on 24/10/2009 20:22
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The irish thing is totally different. My mam is Irish and they didnt see what went on as full out terrorism they saw it as a war. I dont agree with that fully but English imperialism caused the Irish troubles.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 20:24
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wow they actually asked every briton eligible to vote in this poll they conducted

amazing sheeeeeeeeeeit that like! [:D]

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 20:26
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When are people going to look at Politicians instead of blaming peoples colour for their woes.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 20:26
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No holgay, they went round the audience on Question time and asked them..you said it was a fair and impartial audience...so do you reckon they would have got that 22% figure if they had of done?...or would you like to wiggle you way out of that question?

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 20:28
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"Still I don't expect you to answer that mick being that you ignored many things I put to you last night."

what do you expect thesmogmonster?

this bloke is a slimey cowardly fanny who was made to look an absolute dick by numerous people as he was proven to be wrong

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 20:29
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Dave, i'm on about how Sinn Fein has gone from a terrorist organisation (in british minds) to an acceptable party welcomed into parliment and Europe. They have won hearts and minds over the last few years.
Nick Griffin was trying to say the other night the party has changed, and now them having to allow colored people into the party, they will change policies to appear more apealing, he did say that people born here or have been here a while can stay, but the recent ones who everyone thinks are freeloaders will be kicked out.
This may appeal to a lot of coloureds who have been here a while as at the moment they feel tarred with the same brush.
Even that coloured guy in the audience said immigration is out of control.

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 20:31
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I hope that the poll didn't include anyone from London. It's not a British city.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 20:31
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"Smog, are you on drugs?..i answered everything you asked last night, and what i could'nt find i asked you to ask me again on a single thread.."

Right you've started insulting me, whatever.. I thought you liked a debate, you do realise that completely makes you look bad.. not me. If you can't answer reasonable questions, thats your problem not mine.

"dont you realise there where loads of threads in which i was in debate and its not easy keeping up with every single question."

I provided you with a link several times, you replied on the thread, you just said nothing in your post.

"especially when theres half a dozen sheep bleating at me at the same time!"

So everyone who doesn't agree with you is a sheep? Ummm...

"weres this poll you speak off that says the BNP has gone down to 3%?"

Its the same poll (actually yougov) your quoting above.

"When asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago."

Its good to know all you have really is insults, I'd prefer it if you actually managed to scrape some kind of debate togethe however.


Link: Seeming as though you can't find things easily.

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 20:32
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They were the Political wing of the IRA and had little clout to be begin with.

They only represent their side of the road, nothing else.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 20:34
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''I hope that the poll didn't include anyone from London. It's not a British city.''



Below is an extract from wiki, enjoy.

Tower Hamlets has one of the smallest indigenous populations of the boroughs of Britain. In 2001, White Britons constituted 42.9% of the population. Bangladeshis, who constituted 33% of the population, form the largest minority community, with Somalis representing the second largest minority ethnic group (at around 15,000 inhabitants).[18][19] There are also a number of Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Pakistani, and Black African/Caribbean residents (with the latter community representing 7% of the population).[18][20]

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 20:34
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[:D]

when threads backfire part 9!

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 20:38
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Enjoy what Vosene?

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 20:38
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Vosene the one thing I'd say about Nick Griffin lowering his parties official stance on things is that thats exactly wht he said he'd do with his appearance with David Duke.




Link: Nick & David of the KKK

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 20:39
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The diversity baby.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 20:43
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Madmick is a racist.

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 20:43
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Yes cant see anything wrong with it?

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 20:45
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"(stands back and waits for the usual childish abuse[^][:D])"

You see I think this is what you want Mick.. when someone confronts you with facts, information, and opinions you put your fingers in your ears... which I guess makes typing hard.

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 20:57
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So Vosene, are you with Nick Griffin on this one? Do you think that London is no longer a British city? A yes or no answer will do.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:03
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I've noticed the change over the years, when i first worked there 92 ish there was a nice balance of cultures, it opened my eyes as it was my first time away from home and i loved the place.
Last time i was there it was bad due to a lot of roma gypsies flooding the underground near where we were and the whole place felt totaly different.
We got on a bus one night from Lewisham to Deptford Bridge and out of a full double decker me and my mate were the only whites,
that is a bit to far for me like.
So i would say that it has got out of control and something needs to be done.
If they brought it back to the levels in the early 90's it would not be as bad.
I even had a conversation in 2002 with an Indian stockbroker in the wetherspoons near embankment and he said immigration is out of control.
So something needs to be done.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:04
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Smog..thats were your trouble lies, you have opinions, then you convert them to "facts" which only you and Holgays sheep can see...i said...over 22% of british would consider voting for the BNP....is that so hard for you to understand without putting your brain into over drive?

Flaps, calling me a racist, just shows how you and the sheep try to win over arguements with pathetic remarks...how do you know im not of ethnic origins, and i am not infact coloured?..Even the "Pakistani" lady on QT admitted something needs to be done about immergration...is she also a racist?..try opening your mind to whats going on in the world instead of following the other sheep on here[^]

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:06
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what is this thick fukk rattling on about?

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:07
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Vosene. you know when you see a politician on Newsnight failing to answer the question, despite using lots of words? That's what you just did. I thnk the relevenat verb is "to squirm".
Try again using just one word. Either yes, or no.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:10
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I think i answered it perfectly well.
It's still British geographically, i don't know the overall demographical figures so i could not answer it factually.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:12
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no vosene you didnt answer it at all you dodged it like that fanny timidmick always does

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:14
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I haven't been to London since 2002, so i can't gauge what my feelings would be like.
On my last visit , yes it was a still a British city.
I don't know now, according to what a lot of people are saying, it clearly isn't.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:15
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Have you been to London HH?

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 21:15
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So basically Mick, your just going to ignore anything you don't like.. and continue with insults.

The 3% thing for instance... care to comment?

You did ask about it.

But hey Mick if you want to duck questions and look like a coward thats entirely your choice.

The problem I believe you're having Mick is that what I'm saying basically kills off your argument, or the view that you want to come across. So rather then deal with it or counter, you call me a sheep.

I actually find it rather assuming that you call me a sheep because what it now looks like is that you appear to be incapable of responding to a point put to you, as it actually adds strength to my position, especially considering the irony of you putting in your intial post that 'others' are causing these threads to decay into a slanging match.

Anyway I'm off to watch motd comfortable in the knowledge that you'll barely summon a response to the points I've raised if at all.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:16
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yes vosene i have

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:17
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Was it a british city?
Where did you go? how long were you there for?

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:17
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So Vosene, to translate, you haven't got a fvckin clue.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:19
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"how do you know im not of ethnic origins, and i am not infact coloured?"

There are racists of all races. I don't care what colour your skin is. You're racist.

You're also not very bright, so I shan't be entering into a debate with you, instead I'll post mild insults and make fun of you.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:21
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hold on you want me to answer your questions when like a typical coward continue to dodge those directed at you and instead simply post a load of convoluted tosh?

ha! unbelievable [ref]

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:21
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Smog, your getting Holgay syndrome...its good that you've decided to watch MOTD, itll give you time to reflect on things and perhaps come back with a more open mind and look at things with a different perspective, instead of becoming one of holgays deciples...yuo really shold learn to take holgay with a pinch of salt, he's not know as the boards village idiot for nothing you know[;)]

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:21
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Is that your answer to a debate?
You asked me a question, i tried to answer it honestly, i have probably spent more of my life in London that you have borolad.
Your trying to lay traps, and it hasn't worked kid.
Try harder next time.


_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:21
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[:D] flaps

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:22
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So HH you have nipped into london to do a bit of shopping, seen the wax works and come back on the 7.15.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:22
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Flaps..your a student arnt you..and a female one as well.....i can just tell[:D]

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:23
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lol i think little Micky's got a crush on Nick Griffin.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:24
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mick wants to engage in some 'creepy' boy kissing with nick

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:24
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Vosene, you've established that London is geographically in Britain. Well done. At least have the courage of your convictions and say whether you believe Nick Griffin to be right, that London is no longer a British city. It's easy, yes, or no?

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:25
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The term 'coloured' is racist, btw. You're not allowed to say it.

Bukowski Posted on 24/10/2009 21:27
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The term itself isn't racist. It's just an outdated term.

People get too hung up on semantics nowadays.

There was a woman on Question Time complaining about use of the term Afro-Caribbean ffs. Absolutely pathetic.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:28
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borolad, i have said above, in case you missed it, i ain't been since 2002. So i can't gauge how i would feel now.
On my last visit it had changed but it was still just British London to me.
Also i don't live there day to day, some people may feel a bit suffocated now, i did when i was on that bus i mentioned earlier, i thought i got on the national express to Harare

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:28
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well vosene you havent been to london since 2002 i was there 3 weeks ago

you continue to post schit and dodge questions you lying fanny [^]

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:28
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'Coloured' is a racist phrase. You're not allowed to use it.

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:28
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Come on Vosene, get with it.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:29
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You don't come across well traveled HH at all.

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:30
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Are the words Yes and No a bit to scary for you Vosene? Are you afraid of commitment?

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:30
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"mick wants to engage in some 'creepy' boy kissing with nick"

maybe timidmick wants griffin on all fours like that pooch he got caught knobbing up eston hills [;)]

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 21:31
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"
Smog, your getting Holgay syndrome...its good that you've decided to watch MOTD, itll give you time to reflect on things and perhaps come back with a more open mind and look at things with a different perspective, instead of becoming one of holgays deciples...yuo really shold learn to take holgay with a pinch of salt, he's not know as the boards village idiot for nothing you know"

So you have nothing then?

Absolutely nothing..?

You're making yourself look a bit foolish my friend.

Congratulations for picking up the courage to post after I said I was off for the night, I thought only proper idiots fell for that trick.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:31
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"You don't come across well traveled HH at all."

oh the irony!

Anubis Posted on 24/10/2009 21:31
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Just because you disagree with your countrys immigration policies dosn't make you a racist.

If it did about 80% of the country would be racist.

br14 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:32
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I note the complacent lefties on the board who thought noone would give Griffin a second glance after the QT debacle have quietly changed the subject.

Does anyone know the numbers the last time this kind of survey was commissioned?

Either way, the fact 22% of the population would even admit to considering voting BNP tells you just how wrong the media have been.

Somehow or other, the moral outrage against the BNP that resulted in that shambles of a program has made the party acceptable to a unhealthy but significant minority of the population.

In the end I watched Griffins performance right through, and I have to say that while he was pretty useless, the way he was dealt with rescued him. Precisely the same impression I got from watching 10 minutes of highlights.

Smug and complacent underestimation of this threat is the surest way to allow it to grow. Intelligent debate, education and policies to address the issues that are the fuel for the BNP is the way to counteract the threat.

Still it's only one poll, maybe it doesn't matter.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:32
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"Just because you disagree with your countrys immigration policies dosn't make you a racist."

who said it did?


"If it did about 80% of the country would be racist."

is this a made up fact?

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:33
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The 'Oh the irony ' chestnut.
That'll do donkey, that'll do.....

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:36
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"Either way, the fact 22% of the population would even admit to considering voting BNP tells you just how wrong the media have been."

fukk me if the population of britain is 1314 then all those complaining about immigration and overcrowding are nutters!

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:36
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holgay, you have a phobia about Nick Griffin dont you...is that because if he gets into power he'll want to remove all the illegal immirgrants and that includes your Thai Bride, you keep locked in the cupboard under the stairs, only taking her out to give her a slap now and then as youve put it before...cant stand up to men so you use the keyboard and girls faces to take your tantrums out on.
What happened about you telling everyone you were going to commit suicide?..didnt you have the courage to go through with it or were you, as every one suspected, just looking for more attention?
[:D]

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:36
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"Just because you disagree with your countrys immigration policies dosn't make you a racist."

Maybe not, but supporting the BNP does.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:37
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"The 'Oh the irony ' chestnut.
That'll do donkey, that'll do....."

i guess you dont understand what irony is then

understandable given youre a bit thick and a question dodging fanny [rle]

Anubis Posted on 24/10/2009 21:37
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well vosene you havent been to london since 2002 i was there 3 weeks ago

Did you feel at home ?

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:38
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I'm voting Jedi.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:38
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"Still it's only one poll, maybe it doesn't matter."

Correct, it doesn't. We don't know where the poll was taken, what the question was, how large the sample was. I haven't even seen the poll myself, just hearing it second hand from a BNP supporter.

If it even exists, it still is only one poll. There was a far bigger one a few months ago and only 6% of people chose to support the BNP at that time.

You're also reading far too much in to it because it backs up your smug 'prediction' of a couple of nights ago.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:39
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"immergrants"

lol look how badly educated you are

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:39
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timidmick must think im liddle_towers the dopey racist chunt [:D]

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:39
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i guess you dont understand what irony is then

understandable given youre a bit thick and a question dodging fanny


Oh the fukkin irony

Anubis Posted on 24/10/2009 21:41
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Maybe not, but supporting the BNP does.


Who has said they support the BNP ?

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:42
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"Who has said they support the BNP ?"

Madmick supports the BNP.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:43
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touched a nerve have i wife beater?..actually, is it legal to call a girl of 14 a wife in this country?
Ive heard shes actually pretty holgay.....pretty cheap that is..remind us again, how much she cost you[:D]


Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:44
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Some people just simply don't like foreigners.
It's their human rights to be Racist.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 21:44
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Mick, care to answer any points or are you scared of them?

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:44
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Is Madmick seriously making a joke about child prostitution and domestic violence? Wow.

br14 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:44
the BNP in the latest poll 22% said they WOULD consider

The poll was taken after the QT program aired and published in the Daily Telegraph.

"here was a far bigger one a few months ago and only 6% of people chose to support the BNP"

That's precisely the point. It's a fair guess that many that support the general aims of the BNP have the half a wit needed to avoid admitting the fact.

Surely the fact that so many now don't mind admitting that fact, even in a small survey, is of some concern to those that don't wish the BNP to exist at all, never mind as a force (however minor) in British politics.

Maybe Le Pen was right.

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:47
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"Some people just simply don't like foreigners.
It's their human rights to be Racist".

So Vosene, if it's ok to be racist, is that what you are? Yes or No? You're getting there now, you've nearly stopped being a coward, and you're almost ready to say what you really think.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:48
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Thats right flaps, Holgay pays for a Thai bride and brings her home, keeps her under the stairs in a cupboard only to bring her out so he can take his frustrations out on her because ive wound him up on here, and you have a pop at me over it...yeah..you got your priorities right there havent you!..or arnt sheep allowed to say anything bad against the head sheep?[:D]

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:48
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"That's precisely the point. "

No it's not the point. We don't know how many people would have answered 'yes' to that question before QT.

And we don't know the extent of the survey, where it was taken, or the questions asked.

Opinion polls can be skewed to provide any answer you like.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:50
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"Opinion polls can be skewed to provide any answer you like"

Yeah, and they are only believable, when they suit you, and the rest of holgays sheep [^]

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 21:51
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I think considering and supporting arn't the same thing br14.

"When asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago."

Thats from the same poll.

I do think that the BBC XXXXXXed it up... all its done is reinforce the views of everyone involved and bring the BNP to the awareness of people who had never heard of them.. as an acedote I used to work in political research and the number of voters who believe there is a conservatory party left you gutted sometimes... thats how involved in politics some people in this country are.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:52
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lol madmick i like the way you change 'gate' to 'gay' its very clever :)

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 21:52
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"Yeah, and they are only believable, when they suit you, and the rest of holgays sheep [^]"

Is that why you've ignored the 3% thing.. or are you going to fake your inability to read again?

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:53
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Of course, the important thing to remember is that Nick Griffin is a thick chunt.

He's no Adolf Hitler.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:53
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[:D]

i like how timidmick thinks he winds people up yet everyone just sits around pishing themselves at the thick racist

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 21:54
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Are you a human rights abuser borolad?
Just a simple answer Yes or No?


MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 21:56
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Smog..from your link...

"Two-thirds of the 1,314 people polled by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph dismissed voting for the party under any circumstances, with the rest unsure.

When asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago."

so 22% say they would consider voting BNP yet only 3% would vote BNP?
im not quite sure how to interperate that..would you care to explain?

br14 Posted on 24/10/2009 21:57
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"We don't know how many people would have answered 'yes' to that question before QT."

I thought you just said it was 6% a few months ago.

Look, you can hide your head in the sand of complacency, but if sufficient people are XXXXXXed off enough they'll vote BNP.

The solution is not to tell them how stupid they are, but to show them the BNP isn't really the lamb it claims to be in a calm and reasoned way.

It's fairly obvious that the mainstream media is not longer trusted by potential BNP supporters who read constant attacks on the people but not the policies, and giving Griffin the opportunity to be a martyr to his target audience.

The BBC really messed up. Whoever produced that QT program walked right into a trap. Not subtle enough by far.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:58
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Madmick: it's fairly simple.

More people would 'consider' voting BNP than those who 'would' vote for the BNP.

Do you know what the word consider means?

Bukowski Posted on 24/10/2009 21:58
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"'Coloured' is a racist phrase. You're not allowed to use it."


I'd argue that it's only racist if somebody uses it with racist intent. Most people who say the term do so because they're not actually up to speed on what the current PC term is. That doesn't make them racist.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 21:59
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"I thought you just said it was 6% a few months ago."

Yes it was. And, much like madmick, you seem to be unsure what the word 'consider' means.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 21:59
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"Do you know what the word consider means?"

i dont think they use words like that in his spot the dog books [:D]

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 22:01
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I remember the gold old days when we had gollywogs on jam jars.
Never harmed anyone.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 22:02
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Yeah, its because there is a difference between thinking about the possibilities and doing it.

Basic English language.

I think what you'll find, if you probed further, was that alot of people are upset about immigration, and are thinking about a protest vote because the main parties arn't any use on the subject (Jack Straw the other night was useless for instance).

However.. if an election was called, only 3% would actually vote BNP in their opinion, this is largely because most people arn't actually racist, they just want to look after their families.

People lie in polls though.. its by no means the full story.

br14 Posted on 24/10/2009 22:04
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"you seem to be unsure what the word 'consider' means"

It means they were willing to admit something to a pollster that a few months ago they wouldn't.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 22:04
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O i get it now..i start a thread saying that 22% of people in the latest poll would consider voting for the BNP..and im getting shot down because only 3 % would vote for them???...i never mentioned how many would vote BNP, i just said how (watch my lips sheep) many would CONSIDER, voting for them!! doh!..take off your blinkers and try and read what people type on here for a change!

You people so much want to oppress peoples freedom of speech, that you resort to inventing arguements, just to try and prove your case[V]

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 22:05
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Vosene, no I am not a human rights abuser. You can be a racist if you want.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 22:05
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"It means they were willing to admit something to a pollster that a few months ago they wouldn't."

Please share a link to a poll asking a similar question from 'a few months ago'.

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 24/10/2009 22:08
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I wonder what percentage would have considerd supporting the Nazi Party in the 30's?

Certainly the Royal Family was split.

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 22:09
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If it wasn't for racism borolad we wouldn't have the British empire or cotton rich socks.


br14 Posted on 24/10/2009 22:11
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Flaps you're obsessed with the detail of process while the world burns around you.

I didn't mention the original poll, you did.

What I said was I was suprised that 22% of people would even ADMIT to considering voting BNP.

Maybe you're right. Nothing to be concerned about.

It isn't so long ago, we couldn't even post the acronym "BNP" on this board. How times change eh?

borolad259 Posted on 24/10/2009 22:11
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See, admitting that you are a racist isn't so hard. Well done.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 22:11
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"i never mentioned how many would vote BNP, i just said how (watch my lips sheep) many would CONSIDER, voting for them!! "

I know; I made the point, I'd say that you delibrately ignored the other statistic because your opening post would have looked weak in the way you intended if you had included it.

Doesn't sound as good, on another thread you accused the media of misrepresenting Griffin (till I put you right that he had said those things remember?), what you're doing here is the same thing you're claiming the media have done. Misrepresenting the facts.

"You people so much want to oppress peoples freedom of speech, that you resort to inventing arguements, just to try and prove your case[V]"

If you feel uncomfortable actually debating things Mick.. and being challenged on what you say, maybe you should not bother posting them in the first place.

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 22:12
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ah so now timidmick has been shown up hes desperately backtracking with "i didnt say that" schite

how typical

Vosene Posted on 24/10/2009 22:12
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do you wear cotton rich underwear borolad?

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 22:15
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Btw, br14, if you want to engage these guys, give it a try, there's a couple right here.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 22:16
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"What I said was I was suprised that 22% of people would even ADMIT to considering voting BNP."

Why are you surprised? I'm not. And in the absence of data, you're making an assumption that this is a dramatic increase, you have no data to back this up.

"Maybe you're right. Nothing to be concerned about."

Correct. The BNP will struggle to get over 1% of the vote at the next general election.

TheSmogMonster Posted on 24/10/2009 22:19
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I note this also:

"Two-thirds of the 1,314 people polled by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph dismissed voting for the party under any circumstances, with the rest unsure."

You managed to leave this out too MADMICK... I guess that doesn't work out great for you either.

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 22:24
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You might be interested in this link, br14, which echoes my points in this thread. And it's from the Telegraph, who commissioned the poll.


Link: telegraph

Only_Me Posted on 24/10/2009 22:41
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" alot of people are upset about immigration, and are thinking about a protest vote because the main parties arn't any use on the subject (Jack Straw the other night was useless for instance "

I imagine that a lot of people will be more than a bit upset, to learn that it's not just that Jack Straw was 'useless the other night' but that he had taken part in a conspiracy to deliberately encourage mass immigration.

The cat is officially out of the bag now.
It has nothing to do with giving safe harbour to refugees, or any other altruistic reason, it has to do with deliberately setting out to annoy a section of the British ( English ) population, the trouble is along with those it intentionally set out to upset, it has got the backs up of those who have in the past been it's traditional voting base.
Hopefully, come the election, people won't turn to the B.N.P. and they do only get 1% of the vote, as someone suggested.
If we can get enough good Independent candidates to run, then maybe that anger can be expressed in a more moderate fashion.

red_shamrock Posted on 24/10/2009 22:45
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Deliberately up setting...why would they do that ? and who is the Section they meant to upset?.


Only_Me Posted on 24/10/2009 22:51
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" Deliberately up setting...why would they do that ? and who is the Section they meant to upset?."


Have you not read about that yet?

I'll find you the quote.




" Labour ministers deliberately encouraged mass immigration to diversify Britain over the past decade, a former Downing Street adviser has claimed.
Andrew Neather said the mass influx of migrant workers seen in recent years was not the result of a mistake or miscalculation but rather a policy the party preferred not to reveal to its core voters.

"Mass migration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural," he wrote in in the London Evening Standard.

"I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."


Critics have been quick to accuse the government of creating an "immigration conspiracy" and introduced mass immigration to Britain for "cynical" political reasons.

Sir Andrew Green, chairman of think tank Migrationwatch UK, said: "Many have long suspected that mass immigration under Labour was not a XXXXXX-up but also a conspiracy, they were right."

Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Chris Huhne said: "If this is true it is deeply shocking that the Government can have taken such significant decisions without public debate and public consultation.

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 23:26
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Smog..do you really have such trouble in reading and understanding what peole say?

My point..was..22% of people would consider voting BNP...THAT IT..no more or no less..i didnt mention a thousand other things about the BNP or other Mori polls etc, simply because thats not what i wanted to inform people about in what took my attention...you really are looking for an arguement that doesnt exsist arnt you? would like like to bring some stat up about all the polls taken over the last 20 years and we can scritinise them together if you want, ive got 30 years spare, i dont mind.
As i say, i found it interesting that over 22% of people would consider voting for the BNP...END OFF[^]

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 24/10/2009 23:29
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thats odd timidmick because it wasnt what you were getting at in your opening post you simpleton [:o)]

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 23:34
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olgay, shouldnt you be inbed beating the missus by now?
Dont tell me you dont let her out of the cupboard even to go to bed?[:O]

No wonder your so against the BNP, they plan to stop sharia law coming to britain, and ufortunately for you. that means your still breaking the law, by treating your girl like a 2nd class citizan and beating her as you see fit....now go and take your anti depressants and fall asleep, preferably on the window ledge..theres a good little boy[^]

Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 24/10/2009 23:36
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haha!

You are mad, it's not just part of your name.

[:D][^]

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 23:40
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Corcaigh, when you talk to some of the planks on here, its a healthy situation to be a little mad[;)]
It cant be nice for the likes of Holgay who abused the privilidge, but there ya go![;)][:D]

flaps Posted on 24/10/2009 23:42
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madmick is unhinged

MADMICK Posted on 24/10/2009 23:42
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Baaaaaa[^]


Anubis Posted on 24/10/2009 23:50
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Are you still taking the tablets Mick. [;)]

TeessideCleveland Posted on 25/10/2009 00:13
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I am sure BNP wil get 100 per cent of white people's votes if only we would realise the danger of living near non-whites
Not sure what the danger is but next time Nicky is not questioned by real people and is in a pre-recoreded video I'm sure we'll find out

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 25/10/2009 00:30
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i think timidmick is having a breakdown after the pasting hes taken off folk on here over the last few days


MADMICK Posted on 25/10/2009 00:44
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"Are you still taking the tablets Mick."
Dont need em anymore now, i just come on here and holgay cheers me up no end with his pityfull comments[:D]

"i think timidmick is having a breakdown after the pasting hes taken off folk on here over the last few days"

A perfect example of what i was saying earlier about the sheep and thier blinkered views![:D]

holgay. go and give your lass a slap before your mammy tucks you in for bed...sh1t..i forgot..your lass IS your mammy![:D]

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 25/10/2009 00:50
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so this thai bride that i bought cheaply is also my mother? [:D]

no wonder everyone on here rips the pish out of you [^]

MADMICK Posted on 25/10/2009 01:21
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Never thought she's not your "real" Mammy holgay?..your real mammy abandoned you at birth remember[^]..the one you have now, we normally call em foster mothers, or in your case..."Our Lass"[:D]

_Holgate_Hero Posted on 25/10/2009 01:58
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can you translate that to english please? [^]

whoyadoin4 Posted on 25/10/2009 02:03
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oxygen thief.

END OF THREAD

br14 Posted on 25/10/2009 02:17
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flaps I'm not entirely sure of your point.

I'm suggesting that to ignore the issue of the BNP or to attack it in a aggressive manner, simply serves it's purpose.

Furthermore I'd suggest the QT program was a complete balls up - having the BNP on at all might have been the biggest mistake - but if they had to have Griffin on the show, it should have been like any normal QT.

Ample opportunity would have been available to destroy Griffins arguments in a calm and rational manner instead of the farce that actually took place.

Like the the Front National in France, the BNP is unlikely ever to form a government (even with PR).

However, that doesn't mean it can't influence policy. Some would argue it already is.

You may not be concerned about it's influence, but the chief socialist himself, George Galloway, is pretty concerned (if you believe his public pronouncements), so I guess I'm not the only one.

reckre Posted on 25/10/2009 08:16
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As long as labour have idiots like Jack Straw representing them it doesn't matter how bad Griffin or the BNP is, they will still get votes.

Lets not cap immigration, lets keep allowing asylum seekers, and lets watch people who have worked hard for 30 years struggle to put food on the table as they find themselves out of work.

The BNP and Griffin ain't the problem. The problem is the tories and labour and the XXXXXXing idiots that vote for them!

rumrunner Posted on 25/10/2009 08:21
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i remember the national front many years ago polling over a million votes
it was the late 70`s when Labour made a mess of things like now
look what happened to the national front
the BNP will go the same way

red_shamrock Posted on 25/10/2009 08:25
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Well Reckre somebody who has realised what the real cause is and who created it.

They have us work for nowt these Political Basterds.

red_shamrock Posted on 25/10/2009 08:28
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I think your right Rumrunner, but arent The BNP just a rehash of the NF.

rumrunner Posted on 25/10/2009 08:49
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yes, they rebranded the national front
they can never gain more than minority support
its not like the 30`s now no matter how deep a recession the media is controlled by government and capitalist sources who would create an atmosphere in the country were anyone who has a TV and could read would turn against BNP

reckre Posted on 25/10/2009 10:28
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"media is controlled by government"

Agree hence the farce that was Question time.