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Dibzzz Posted on 14/09/2009 10:23
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Feel free to post all your religious ramblings here on this thread, you can even swap scripture from your god books if you like.

Then the rest of us don't have to read it.[^]

maxi_levey Posted on 14/09/2009 10:24
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[rle]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 10:24
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what a pack of dicks!

Esteban Posted on 14/09/2009 10:24
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Do you want to join my religion? Give us 50 quid.

zaphod Posted on 14/09/2009 10:33
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The people who bother God are those who reject. So I don't bother God at all.

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 10:35
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So you don't prayer Zaphod?

burydweller Posted on 14/09/2009 10:35
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Hello GOD freaks, explain this


Link: I wonder what god would think about this?

burydweller Posted on 14/09/2009 10:37
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We are so different to any other animal on this planet, its obvious we came from somewere else


Link: More NASA hiding of objects on the moon

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 10:40
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That NASA stuff is XXXXXXe. It's just a smudge on the photgraph and they describe it as a 'Massive Edifice'. Ludicrous

mm40 Posted on 14/09/2009 10:42
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i wonder why its always non believers who start these threads, sad sad and very sad[V]

Dibzzz Posted on 14/09/2009 10:47
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I'd sooner believe in little green men from other planets than any one of your gods.

zaphod Posted on 14/09/2009 10:51
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Sure you would, Dibzzz, along with lots of other people who'll believe any far-fetched idea, as long as it isn't God.

PS: Of course I pray, but God likes it.

Piggy Posted on 14/09/2009 10:56
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I dont get why so many of the non-believers seem so desperate to convince everyone that they are right. Why would you be bothered?

I dont believe, I wish I did as it strikes me as quite a comforting thing, but I dont. I wouldnt want to criticise the beliefs of anyone who does though.

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 10:58
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Stop being so reasonable Piggy

nobbienuts Posted on 14/09/2009 10:58
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I must say that i find the attitude of some on here disturbing.

if a person wishes to believe in God why does it upset athiests so much? is it some sort of penis envy?

Dibzzz Posted on 14/09/2009 10:58
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Likely billions of earth like planets in the universe and it's far-fetched to presume there's intelligent life on them?

Yet that idea is less plausable than a invisible man in the sky who listens to you when you want nice things to happen?

zaphod Posted on 14/09/2009 11:00
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You should look into it, Piggy. You can't believe in a vacuum. Many of us had to go through a longish process of examining the evidence before reaching faith.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:03
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having faith is what has helped progress the human race in comparison to other races of animals.

thats a given.

Piggy Posted on 14/09/2009 11:03
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One day I might Zaphod.

I was talking to a Hare Krishna monk on friday night. He appeared quite happy with himself, seemed quite a good way to spend a life.

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 11:04
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"You should look into it, Piggy. You can't believe in a vacuum. Many of us had to go through a longish process of examining the evidence before reaching faith."

For it reads:-

You should look into it, Piggy. You can't believe in fairys. Many of us had to go through a longish process of examining the evidence before reaching Atheism."

and Zaphod how do you know God likes it? You may just be bothering him? He might hate it.

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:09
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Raz, you are blindingly stupid. Having 'faith' held mankind back for centuries, have you ever heard of the Middle Ages, The Crusades or the Spanish Inquistion?

scooby Posted on 14/09/2009 11:11
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Anyone who went through a period examining evidence and concluded that there is a sky fairy didn't do it right.

Amazing arrogance from people assuming there must be a god because we are so XXXXXXing great. Sorry, you just aren't that important.

zaphod Posted on 14/09/2009 11:12
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TheBoy, maybe you went through a longish process before reaching your conclusions, whatever they are. That doesn't invalidate the fact that most believers also go through a process & reach the point of believing. It seems to me that most non-believers are just indifferent rather than making a firm decision.

Of course God likes my praying. He tells me to do it & responds.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:12
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and which other race are you comparing us to?

Faith allows us to move forward and progress, you may not like how at times it develops us, but it does develop us as a race.

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:13
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Zaphod, do you believe in Father Christmas?

Billy_Ashcrofts_afro Posted on 14/09/2009 11:14
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This thread is right up your street Raymond - no need to post anywhere else.

Amen.

GGGG Posted on 14/09/2009 11:15
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I only have one religion and if i need a question answering i refer to that its called Google [^]

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:16
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towz do you mean the original st Nicholas ?

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:21
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No, the gadgie with the beard who climbs down your chimney and leaves you presents because that's about as plausible as God

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:23
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you think THAT is plausible?

it's a tradition that originate from the story of a true do-gooder.

God is a possibility to all, but only people who believe in him get the true benefit whilst in this life.

zzzzz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:26
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You're a lucky man zaphod

alanbob10 Posted on 14/09/2009 11:27
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"Of course God likes my praying. He tells me to do it & responds."

This is the bit I never get, how does he let you know he wants you to do something. How does he communicate and whu doesnt he doa deal with a mobile company and get into text messaging and make some extra cash for the church.

Maybe being religious and thinking god is talking to you is just some kind of mild mental illness. When i was at school they said you would be sectioned if you heard voices in your head.

And if got exists how do explain why a priest or vicar sometimes gets done for doing naughy things. if god exists they would not do it in the first place.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:30
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isnt it just a higher level of communicating.

many years ago people wouldnt have believed you if you told them you got a message from your mam in this block you hold in your hand you call a phone.

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:31
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You really are as thick as pig XXXXXX Raz

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:33
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no i am not.

it is you who is blinkered to the possibility, and you seem to just resort to abuse rather than anything constructive

buttermyarse Posted on 14/09/2009 11:34
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This all-seeing,all-powerful God of ours must be a right evil XXXXXX if he can sit back and let things like 9/11 and Aberfan happen without "stepping in" to stop it[rle]


Link: Aberfan

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:37
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you want a democratic world, but you would also like a god that stepped in every 2 mins to sort the world out.

i presume you still live with your parents

zaphod Posted on 14/09/2009 11:37
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alanbob, we are all human, so priests & vicars doing bad things is not surprising. The whole point about Christianity, in contrast to most other religions, is that you can be forgiven by God without being perfect, instead of having to try to earn your salvation (which is impossible because we're imperfect).

As for answers to prayer, they can come in various forms: through events, through people, through reading the Bible &, not unusually, through just realising what the answer is as you pray. I've only ever heard a voice once (it said NO), but some people do more often.

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:39
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"I've only ever heard a voice once (it said NO), but some people do more often."

I think that known as mental illness

buttermyarse Posted on 14/09/2009 11:40
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you want a democratic world, but you would also like a god that stepped in every 2 mins to sort the world out.

i presume you still live with your parents

I assume thats aimed at me... Why would a "God" sit back and let such things happen?

Dibzzz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:45
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Razmond

I take it you are a christian?
Do you believe in allah? Surely if you believe in one god then you must believe in all the others?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 11:55
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i grew up a christian and then faded away from the faith, i'm much more laid back about faith.

but i have my own beliefs on things, which allows me to say that there is a possibility of a god, but he doesnt necessarily where a beard.

towz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:55
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Classic [^]

buttermyarse Posted on 14/09/2009 11:56
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but he doesnt necessarily where a beard.[:D]

MY_NAMES_NOBODY Posted on 14/09/2009 11:56
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Lets hope theres no Muslums reading this thread, otherwise, we could be in for a spate of suicide bombings![xx(][:D]

Dibzzz Posted on 14/09/2009 11:57
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lol

rgarbutt Posted on 14/09/2009 12:17
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If God isn't capable of "stepping-in" then what exactly is his purpose?

Are we not asking him to "step-in" when we pray?

mm40 Posted on 14/09/2009 12:29
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Dibzzz - why you so bothered anyway?

joshie Posted on 14/09/2009 12:30
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If people feel the need for a spiritual crutch to get them through their existence then thats fair enough for them I suppose.

If they believe word for word the bible and its premise the world is only a few thousand year old(including some school teachers)or the koran with its paedophile prophet then they are living in a fantasy world and are at best delusional.

The only ones that really bother me though are the fundamentalists of all persuasions, they are dangerous.

buttermyarse Posted on 14/09/2009 12:31
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Are we not asking him to "step-in" when we pray?

Thats the point.He doesnt exist.The Life of Brian is historically more accurate than the Bible...

CiscoKid Posted on 14/09/2009 12:34
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God didn't create man. Man created God.


Billy_Ashcrofts_afro Posted on 14/09/2009 12:51
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Religion is for the weak minded.

An imaginary comfort blanket - so as long as I believe I will go to heaven and god will take care of me while I am here and anybody I prayer for.

That is so cotton candy sweet, but sadly pathetic - the real world is a very different story and god is doing XXXXXX all about it as he has always done.

Wake up and smell the coffee daydreamers.


Billy_Ashcrofts_afro Posted on 14/09/2009 12:52
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Hit the nail on the head cisco [^]

rgarbutt Posted on 14/09/2009 12:53
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What angers me the most are the "god-fearing" aspects of Christianity, which is particularly typical of Catholicism.

The Bible teaches it's followers to fear judgement, whereas the Koran promises 72 virgins!! No contest really....

spurticus Posted on 14/09/2009 12:54
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Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. (Exodus 20:7 KJV)



Sleep well blasphemers[B)]

Billy_Ashcrofts_afro Posted on 14/09/2009 12:56
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Thank you - I always get a good nights kip [^]

JonMc Posted on 14/09/2009 12:59
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Religion is for the weak minded.

I always have a little giggle when that old chestnut is trotted out. [:D]

scooby Posted on 14/09/2009 13:02
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Giggling is also for the weak minded.

toxic_bob Posted on 14/09/2009 13:07
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Always surprises me the bile that's reserved for religion on here.

Seems the atheists are just as evangelical and bigoted as the god squad. Making up for lost time?

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 13:52
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"The whole point about Christianity, in contrast to most other religions, is that you can be forgiven by God without being perfect, instead of having to try to earn your salvation (which is impossible because we're imperfect)."

Correct me if i'm wrong, but don't you have to really repent, as opposed to just doing it to get into heaven, to be forgiven? If thats the case heaven will be empty. Does anyone who had sex before marriage really regret it? Does anyone who's ever 'coverted his neighbours ass' really regret it? By Christian recogning our lives are just one big trail of sin. Surely deep down there's not a person on earth who truely regrets all the things they've done that the Bible tells us is a sin?

JonMc Posted on 14/09/2009 14:04
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Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.


Well according to Herr Zeus that's all you needed to do to get to where you're going.

Be thankful what what we have.
Forgive youself.
Forgive each other.
Contemplate on the things you do wrong.
Try to do better tomorrow.

Not very heavy.

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 14:08
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So by that do you mean, i could go round slitting peoples throats and rapeing children, yet when the day of reckoning comes if i say the lords prayer the gates of paradise will open up?

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 14/09/2009 14:10
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TheBoy007 i certainly dont trust you if you are mulling over those thoughts

StevieT Posted on 14/09/2009 14:15
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[rle] Sadly, there is still much work to be done for Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, Dennett, Diamond, etc.


JonMc Posted on 14/09/2009 14:16
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[:D]

No. I doubt that was what the big man had in mind. It's just a simple plan for self contentment. And you thought 'Life Coaching' was a new idea...

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 14:22
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As usual the Christain stance on this subject is very vague indeed. Where is the line drawn between what is forgivable and what isn't? Is there a line at all? Is St Peter like some sort of right wing dictator who decides each case (billions of them) on its own merits?

The_same_as_before Posted on 14/09/2009 14:25
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No stance from me he created heaven and earth, the fact he has a sense of humour and made it huge and look billions of years old is good craic.

JonMc Posted on 14/09/2009 14:28
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The Christian stance is very confusing, I agree. Possibly because the original message was muddied in the rush to build a power base later on.

Jesus was speaking at a time in which the poor and infirm thought they were denied 'heaven' because they didn't have the funds to cleanse their souls by sacrifice. All jesus said was that you didn't need a Rabbi to forgive your sins - we could do that for each other anyways.

This made him dangerous in an unstable region at the time. Jesus was a quiet revolutionary and I'm sure he'd look at the vatican and wonder if it was all worth the bother.

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 14:37
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"Jesus was a quiet revolutionary and I'm sure he'd look at the vatican and wonder if it was all worth the bother."

I couldn't disagree with that. The original Christians where very humble (by there own doing) Church's where very plain, it was only when Constantine took Christianity for the Roman empire that the oppulance we associate whith the current church came to be.

Back on God's forgiveness....

"I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake; and I will not remember your sins. Put Me in remembrance; let us contend together; state your case, that you may be acquitted." (Isaiah 43:25-26)

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away, behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)

"In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace." (Ephesians 1:7)

Sounds to me that as long as you believe in God you can do what the hell you like, as God will forgive you. Seems the only prerequisite to entering Paradise is believeing in God. All sounds like a big marketing ploy to me.

Old_Gregg Posted on 14/09/2009 15:16
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"I take it you are a christian?
Do you believe in allah? Surely if you believe in one god then you must believe in all the others?"

Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God, as all three faiths were descended from the teachings of Abraham.

Allah, or Yahweh as the Jews call God are just different names for the same being. The fact that the three major religions in the world all worship the same God makes it even more ridiculous the acts of hatred performed by some in the name of God.

number9point5 Posted on 14/09/2009 15:22
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"The fact that the three major religions in the world all worship the same God makes it even more ridiculous the acts of hatred performed by some in the name of God."

Not true......

The Jews & Muslims are monotheists where as mainstream Christians (Catholics, Prods etc but no JW's) worship a triune God.

As for all you have to do is believe in God and he will forgive everything, well thatís not actually correct and there is a bit more to it than just that, and I canít be ars$ed to explain it.

scooby Posted on 14/09/2009 15:27
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There's more to it than that? How the XXXXXX would you know?

Old_Gregg Posted on 14/09/2009 15:28
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"The Jews & Muslims are monotheists where as mainstream Christians (Catholics, Prods etc but no JW's) worship a triune God."

Wrong I'm afraid. Of course it's true that Christians beleive in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, but this should not be confused with believing in three Gods. Christians believe in these three aspects of one God, hence the same monotheistic beliefs as Jews and Muslims, in the same God of Abraham.

benpoolie Posted on 14/09/2009 15:35
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that baby P's killer has apparantly become a JW, or is studying to be one.

Imagine him calling at your door with a watchtower magazine!

no9.5
whats your take on the JW's 10 year involvement with the UN?

number9point5 Posted on 14/09/2009 15:39
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from what I understand it makes no difference, if JW's were being persecuted and the only way they could get info to and from places they were banned then using the UN's news and information service makes no difference.

By the benpoolie did they kick you out?

As for the muppet claiming that baby "P's killer wants to be a JW where do you get that from and would you have mentioned it if he had converted to islam?

I like JW's, may even become one now that I have met Number9 in person.

benpoolie Posted on 14/09/2009 15:44
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no, I left.

personally I'd recommend running a mile as fast as your legs will carry you, but each to their own.


The UN thing runs a bit deeper than that, it involved becoming an NGO with them and fulfilling their criteria for being one. Which when you know their stance on it as an organisation makes it more than a tad hypocritical!

benpoolie Posted on 14/09/2009 15:45
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that baby P thing was in the sun, so I do take it with a pinch of salt, was just poking a bit of fun!!

mm40 Posted on 14/09/2009 15:47
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why do you not start a thread attention all muslim botherers

footyteam Posted on 14/09/2009 15:48
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"I've only ever heard a voice once (it said NO), but some people do more often."

I think that known as mental illness


I think its called incest

number9point5 Posted on 14/09/2009 15:56
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from previous post I remember you got into a bit of bother?

I don't see using the UN to communicate with people being persecuted and imprisoned as hypocritical if it helps. Using the UN News agency and being a fully paid-uo member is different, anyway it is no longer the case.

Gillandi Posted on 14/09/2009 15:56
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I'm an atheist but I believe God saves people. To do that without existing is fairly impressive I reckon. Almost god-like.

benpoolie Posted on 14/09/2009 16:00
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"
from previous post I remember you got into a bit of bother?

I don't see using the UN to communicate with people being persecuted and imprisoned as hypocritical."


na, no bother!

You obviously dont know enough about it or the Witnesses stance on the Un.
I suggest you research it along with many other mistakes they've made and doctrine changes.

Don't take their word for it, study outside sources - as once you are in you aren't allowed to use any other research material but their own.

scooby Posted on 14/09/2009 16:04
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Christianity has more 'gods' than anyone else, saints, 'our ladies of xyz' and Mary seem to get their names thrown about enough to cast doubt on the monotheistic faith idea.

number9point5 Posted on 14/09/2009 16:05
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"Don't take their word for it, study outside sources - as once you are in you aren't allowed to use any other research material but their own."

Not sure you are right there, i visted the London head office (popped in out of interest) when i was down there on business. They use outside material incl different versions of the bible and they even had a copy of Dawkins book.

I've read the bible 2 or 3 times over the years and not one other "group" from vicars to bishops to mormons have answered my questions more clearly or from the bible.

We'l see what happens to each his/her/it's own.

And if i rememeber poolie I sure you mentioned that you had thumped someone to Number9.

benpoolie Posted on 14/09/2009 16:17
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I'm not going to argue with you about it, but you are certainly discouraged from researching anything other than theor publications.
The bethel would have other books for sure as they would need them for their own research purposes, but you would certainly get in trouble for reading and believing Dawkins!!

I did lamp someone a few years ago, but it wasn't anything to do with the religion - they did send 2 elders round to tell me off but nothing more than that!
I'm a good boy me! and trust me, my life is so much better without the millstone round my neck that is that religion.
It may seem all sweetness and light before you're in, but it doesn't stay that way long mate. In fact once you're in, ker-ching![;)]

But its your life chief, and you have freewill.......for now.

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 16:25
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The problem for the believers is going to come within the next 3 years as plans are in place by the powers that be to release classified information disproving Chrisianity altogeather.
Don,t ask me who told me but certain documents will be released to a media outlet
and the brown stuff will hit many fans.
Religion will be blown to the four corners of the globe,sending the Muslims insane and two religions will amalgamate

spurticus Posted on 14/09/2009 16:28
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plazmuh


WTF?[:O]

mm40 Posted on 14/09/2009 16:29
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so why wait 3 years, what a load of garbage..........Number 9 why waste your time debating with then ones who are obesssed with belief or no belief, attention seekers in my book.

The problem for the believers is going to come within the next 3 years as plans are in place by the powers that be to release classified information disproving Chrisianity altogeather.
Don,t ask me who told me but certain documents will be released to a media outlet
and the brown stuff will hit many fans.
Religion will be blown to the four corners of the globe,sending the Muslims insane and two religions will amalgamate


spurticus Posted on 14/09/2009 16:30
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Don,t ask me who told me


Sorry but Who told you?

Towell Posted on 14/09/2009 16:31
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Is this going to happen in 2012?
[:D]

I reckon Mary wasn't really a virgin since it's impossible, and that jesus didn't really rise from the dead since that's impossible too. and that mohammed just made up all that shyte about getting visited by god probably dehydrated or high on ganja.

Moses was probably just a folk figure who's exploits probably got blown all out of proportion a bit like Robin Hood or something.

But then again we could all just have blind faith and ingore scienctific facts.

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 16:32
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NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
NOSY BUGGER[^][^][:D]

spurticus Posted on 14/09/2009 16:32
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Is this going to happen in 2012

Ahh the olympics..



Not fookkn Planet x again isit

mm40 Posted on 14/09/2009 16:33
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NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
NOSY BUGGER....in other words made up.

Towell Posted on 14/09/2009 16:33
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There's as much bunkum in conspiracy theories as there is in religion.

Maybe thick people just need to believe in something, others just get on with it.

benpoolie Posted on 14/09/2009 16:34
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tell me more plazmuh

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 16:35
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But its religion that kills more FACT

rgarbutt Posted on 14/09/2009 16:38
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Ha ha Plazmuh, that's classic!!

spurticus Posted on 14/09/2009 16:41
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Religion will be blown to the four corners of the globe,sending the Muslims insane and two religions will amalgamate


So the muzzies have gone insane, christianity has been blown out of the water..Which 2 religions are going to amalgamate?

Towell Posted on 14/09/2009 16:42
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Judaism and Christianity of course.

We'll learn that Jesus wasn't all that and a bag of potato chips and that Christians have really been Jews all along.

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 16:43
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It won,t be the two you expect
You can call me a lying XXXXXX when the timescale runs out till then just be happy[:D][:D][:D][:D][^][^][^]

spurticus Posted on 14/09/2009 16:46
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Is it the Annuki[xx(]

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 16:48
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You lot make me [:D] and the answer is NO

emphony Posted on 14/09/2009 16:59
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Will this revelation be the last page of the bible that was never published which said "and it was all just a dream"

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 17:15
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No NO NO
Its an well organised disclosure to disprove religion based on REAL evidence, Well kept secrets will revealed within the timescale because by then World events will have overtaken the revelation and proof will be there for all to see.

scooby Posted on 14/09/2009 17:28
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plazmuh, you've shown yourself to be a wacky conspiracy theorist many times before, congrats on your latest. Yeah, the whole world will be shocked to know that there is 'evidence' to disprove god which you know will be sat on for 3 years.

The hottest news story in human history and a bloke in boro is keeping schtum.....

There's plenty of evidence that contradicts religious ideas already and that gets ignored, your 'inside info' is not different.

bororeddaz Posted on 14/09/2009 17:37
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Plazmuh why on earth would the Roman Catholic Church withold information from the rest of the world? Surely it must have some duty to the one in seven members of the planet from which it extracts money.

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 17:39
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I dont live in Boro ex Berwick hill mate
Last word though
There are 3 steps:
The energies come in through Galactic Center, Dec 21-23, 2012.
The Christ child is born Dec 28, 2012 and triggers the enlivening of our DNA and along with it our memories.
Ascension is triggered early 2013. Is it March 21? It will be a few weeks into 2013, that much I know. March 21, 2013 it is said to be Earth's Ascension. MUCH good is on it's way...be happy!

bororeddaz Posted on 14/09/2009 17:43
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"The Christ child is born Dec 28, 2012 and triggers the enlivening of our DNA and along with it our memories."
FFS I don't want to remember dancing in my boxer shorts and calling my boss aXXXXXX in 1997

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 17:49
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No its things you HAVE forgotton
not stuff you remember lol[:D][:D][:D]

bororeddaz Posted on 14/09/2009 17:56
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what like being touched by Akela?

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 18:00
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Its more to do with the pineal gland but im no expert

SplendidStuff Posted on 14/09/2009 18:24
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plazmuh you are crackers[:D]

Can you explain in thicko terms what all that means?

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 19:27
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Ile do a FAO later

borospark Posted on 14/09/2009 19:37
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"The energies come in through Galactic Center, Dec 21-23, 2012.
The Christ child is born Dec 28, 2012 and triggers the enlivening of our DNA and along with it our memories"

Yeh but according to that other loon the other day the world will cease to exist on the 21st 2012, which sort of makes all this a bit pointless, couldnt you just tell us now, I'd hate to miss out on the fact that it was all bulls**t all along

[;)]

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 19:47
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plazmuh [:D][:D][ref][ref]

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 20:08
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Don,t say you wern,t told later on guys
im busy looking for stuff to post at the moment so have a little patience please[:D][:D][:D][^]

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 20:13
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I found this
Monday, August 3, 2009
Signs Of Doomsday According To Major Religions


All the worldís great religions contain Messianic prophecies, which promise that God will one day send a Promised One whose teachings will unite all humanity.

The Promised One is called by different names by different religions. Christians await the return of Christ.Jews look forward to a Prophet like Moses. Hindus look for the return of Krishna. Muslims look for the appearance of Imam Mahdi as well as Christ. Buddhists await Buddha.

The fascinating aspect of all these prophecies is that they all seem to be pointing towards the same event.

All the major religions of the world have their own signs of Doomsday.

Christianity

According to the Bible, there are twenty-one signs of Doomsday:

1. Israel, the fig tree, is budding and the generation that sees it shall not pass till all is fulfilled.
2. The son of perdition, the return of Jesus for his church, and rebuilding of the temple.
3. The red heifer.
4. Cohen and Levi.
5. The world awaits someone.
6. Transgressors are come to the full.
7. Neighbor oppressing neighbor.
8. Evil becomes good and good becomes evil.
9. As it was in the days of Noah.
10 Men shall be lovers of their own selves.
11. A famine for the word of God.
12. Many shall run to and fro.
13. Knowledge shall be increased.
14. One world government.
15. The Antichrist to rule the world.
16. One world religious system.
17. The mark of the beast.
18. All nations gather against Israel.
19. Ferocious battle kills two thirds of Israelites.
20. Half of Jerusalem is taken, and one third of the remaining Jews are holed up in the other half of Jerusalem.
21. Jesus Christ returns and the Mount of Olives splits in two for the battle of Armageddon.




Islam

Muslims believe in messengers of God and prophets. They believe that the final message to man was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad. He is the last prophet sent by God. He is said to have foretold the following 72 signs that would appear nearing doomsday:

1. People will leave prayer.
2. People will usurp Amaanat.
3. Lying will become an art.
4. There will be murders on the slightest of disagreements.
5. Interest will become common.
6. There will be very tall buildings.
7. People will sell religion for the world.
8. People will treat relatives badly.
9. Justice will become a rarity.
10. Lies will be considered truth.
11. Clothes will be of silk.
12. Persecution will become common.
13. Divorces will become common.
14. Sudden deaths will increase.
15. The usurper of Amaanat will be considered honest and honorable.
16. The keeper of Amaanat will be called an usurper of things given to him for safekeeping.
17. Liars will be thought of as honest.
18. Honest people will be thought of as liars.
19. False accusations will become the norm.
20. It will be hot in spite of rain.
21. Instead of wishing for children, people will pray that they not have children.
22. People from bad backgrounds and with bad upbringing will live a life of luxury (material, not peaceful).
23. Good people, when they try to practice, will be cut off from the world.
24. Previously good people will also usurp Amaanat.
25. Leaders will become persecutors.
26. Ulema and Qaris will commit adultery.
27. People will wear clothes of animal skin.
28. But their hearts will smell and will be dead.
29. And will be bitter.
30. Gold will become common.
31. Demand for silver will increase.
32. Sin will increase.
33. Peace will become rare.
34. Words(Ayats) from the Quran will be decorated and calligraphy will become.
35. Mosques will be decorated.
36. And will have tall Minars.
37. But hearts will be empty.
38. Alcoholic drinks will be consumed.
39. Punishments ordered by the Shariah will be revoked and will no longer be implemented.
40. Women will order their mother around.
41. People who are with naked feet, naked bodies and against religion will become kings.
42. Women will trade along with men.
43. Women will imitate men.
44. Men will imitate women.
45. People will swear by things other than Allah and the Quran.
46. Even Muslims will be prepared to give false testimony, without being incited to it.
47. Only people one knows will be greeted with the salaam.
48. The knowledge of the Shariah will be used to earn worldly things.
49. Acts, which earn the Akhirah, will be used to earn the world.
50. Assets belonging to the nation will be considered and treated as personal treasures by the rulers.
51. Amaanat will be considered ones personal asset.
52. Zakaat will be considered as a penalty.
53. The lowest and the worst man in the nation will become its leader.
54. People will not obey their fathers.
55. And will mistreat their mothers.
56. And will not hold back from harming their friends.
57. And will obey their wives.
58. And the voices of the men who commit adultery will be raised in mosques.
59. Women who sing will be treated with great deference.
60. Instruments of music will be kept with great care.
61. Alcohol will be drunk on the highways.
62. People will be proud of their acts of persecution.
63. Justice will be sold in the courts.
64. The number of men in the police force will increase.
65. Instead of music, the Quran will be used to gain pleasure for its tune and style (Qirat), not for what it preaches, its meaning or for rewards in the Akhirah.
66. Animal fur will be used.
67. The last of the Ummat will curse those before them (clearly seen today in people who call the Prophets companions names).
68. Either Allah will send a Red Storm upon you.
69. Or Earthquakes.
70. Or your faces will be changed.
71. Or a rain of rocks from the skies. Asteroids? Meteors.
72. Lies will become a habit of the rulers and the rich.

Prophet Muhammad also said:

1. Alcohol will be called Sherbat and will be considered Halal.
2. Interest will be called Trade and will be considered Halal.
3. Brides will be called Gifts and will be considered Halal.
4. Women will be naked in spite of wearing dresses.


Jews

These signs were said to have been given in the historical books of the Hebrews, and depict the fifteen days before doom:

1. All the water from the earth, including the seas will rice up to the clouds, above the mountains, so that the cry of the seals, the yelling of the sea-monsters and the roar of the whales will be on the dry strands after the water leaves them.

2. The huge noise of the water falling down again the next day into their proper places will be heard, so that it goes deep into the earth; and nobody knows where.

3. All the water will freeze in its place and become hard, and armies will march on this.

4. The sea-animals of the earth will rise up into the clouds, and will cry and clamour continuously for fear of the Day of Doom. None other but God will understand what they are saying.

5. All the birds on the earth will move continuously, without resting, and without eating any food or drinking anything.

6. Great rivers, with fiery and rough waves, will flow out of the firmament from sunrise to sunset.

7. A huge, scary, ugly and unbearable sound will be heard from the heaven, and there will be thunder with many lightnings. From the southern part of the sky, there will be seen a fiery red cloud rising and spreading all over all the earth, and crimson blood will pour from that cloud, and fill the earth Ė both the land and the sea. There will be huge fires over all parts of the globe, and the world will face a mighty earthquake with a huge spark rising from every part of the earth. The sea will also be ruthless on that day.

8. There will be an excessive tremor and all the creatures of the earth will be numb with fear. The waves of the sea will rise very high, and the ocean will be shaken from its very core with fiery winds. The thundering seas and the water against rivers of fire, with no pleasure, no music throughout the world will leave a sad and distressful feeling.

9. Each and every stone in this world, both small and big will break into four parts. These parts will talk to each other, and except for God, nobody else will understand their language. These stones will begin to tremble after losing their form. All the woods of the earth will be completely uprooted, after they have all broken on that day. Streams of sulphurous fire will rise from the earth so that the entire world is one single blaze of fire from sunrise to sunset.

10. All the stones and trees on the earth will be shedding blood. Rough winds will rise and the whole world will be shaken at once. All humans will be screaming, wailing, and crying, and pleading with the earth to open up for them, so that they do not have to witness all the evil. They would prefer to die rather than be alive at that moment. It is at that time that three hundred and sixty-five stars will fall on the earth. The mountains will fall and they will be on the same level as the ground.

11. Big thunders and the sound of four fiery winds from the four airts of heaven will make all the elements shrink and separate. Five thousand three hundred and sixty-five stars will fall on earth just as ripe fruits falling on a windy day. The moon will turn into the color of blood, the sun will grow dark, the mountains and all other structures will turn into ash. A horrendous screaming of the burning birds will be heard. Humans will face a sad, bitter, and heavy grief on that day. All mankind will kneel in front of God, praying for Him to save them from the fire of Doom.

12. All the lawless animals of the earth will have to leave their places, and be on the plains, howling and crying, with no food or clothing. Every person that has tasted life will die on that day and the whole world will be on fire and hail. Then the doors of the palace will open and the roar of the seven heavens will be heard at the coming of the Creator with His angels. The heavenís angels will sing to the Creator to rescue them and the angels and the souls of the saints and the good people will be saved, so that the fire of Doom does not burn them.

13. All graves will open up and the dead will come out, and the world will be in grief, as there will be no place to live for the living or for the dead in this world.

14. All the living will die.

15. The final sign of the day before doom Ė The only Son of the King of heaven and earth and hell, with all the angels and archangels, in His company will go, on that day to the summit of Mount Zion to judge their deeds, both good and evil, for Adamís impure children. Michael the Archangel will summon all the human beings to that great assembly. All the dead will arise; first, the apostles will arise, then the prophets and the confessors, the martyrs and the saints and the good people, then the virgins and penitents and in the end, baptized infants. The whole human race will be aged thirty on that day, with no one being older or younger. This is the age at which Adam was created and the age of Jesus when He was baptized. Then the King of Glory will arise with His final Cross on his shoulder in everybodyís presence. He will have traces of all the wounds of His Passion upon Him, so that all the incurable wounds and tortures, which they themselves inflicted upon Him, may be manifested to the Jews.

Hinduism

According to Kaala Jnaana written by the Hindu mystic, Veera Brahmam, Kali Yuga will last for 5000 years after Lord Krishna passes away, after which evil will spread throughout the world. Hindu legend states that at the end of kali yuga, Vishnu, the universal ruler will appear again under his form of the Kalki-avatara for doing away with the wicked and inaugurating a realm of righteousness and spirituality. This will be the Doomsday.

The signs of Doomsday are:

1. There will be a rain of fire. Following this a strange thing will happen. 20 feet tall humans will appear and claim to be Kalki. (this is in India).
2. A huge comet will be born in the south; several people will die due to this.
3. Mammary glands will be born to the males of Cow, Goat, etc. and people will get milk from them.
4. Tigers will disappear completely from the forests.
5. The Sun will appear like a green colored human being.
6. Moon will be seen on a new moon day.
7. Wealth will arrive from other countries to India and India will be very rich and powerful.
8. Stones will break and fly about like crows and eagles; Stone horses and chariots will start to run.
9. Blood and pus will flow out from stones.
10. It will rain blood.

Over the years, there have been many versions of these signs and you will find they differ when taken from different books, and this is one version of the signs of Doomsday in different religions.

Skeptics may find it interesting to know that even the laws of science support the fact that the world will come to an end. The second law of thermodynamics states that everything goes from order to disorder and eventually ends. It can be your body, house, earthís magnetic field, extinction of species or the shrinking sun.

Whether all this is true or not and whether we choose to believe in all this or not, will depend entirely on each one of us. What we have reproduced here is just what has been written about in numerous books.

redisameancolour Posted on 14/09/2009 20:15
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Fook me the bible does'nt last as long as all that !! must have took 2 days to type it

Bet loads of people read it all.... NOT

Holgate_Hero Posted on 14/09/2009 20:19
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plazmuh with his batschit conspiracies again [:D]

plazmuh Posted on 14/09/2009 20:20
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Copy and paste mate and cannot take credit
for it but interesting[:P]

SplendidStuff Posted on 14/09/2009 20:21
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"Skeptics may find it interesting to know that even the laws of science support the fact that the world will come to an end. "

Well thats us skeptics put in our place.

Dibzzz Posted on 14/09/2009 20:54
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The Earth will come to an end one day, if we don't manage to blow it up ourselves over a religious argument, the sun will red giant in several billion years time engulfing all of the inner planets of our solar system, it'll all end up a bit of chared rock, and god would have had fcuk all to do with it.

TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2009 20:59
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"Skeptics may find it interesting to know that even the laws of science support the fact that the world will come to an end"

Of course it will. Fecking hell is this what you've been struggling with?

Only_Me Posted on 14/09/2009 23:50
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Personally, I'd like to see this God fella hauled up onto the Jeremy Kyle show.

Good morning and welcome to the Jeremy Kyle show.
On today's programme we have Mary and her husband of 6 months, Joseph.

Joseph tell me why you are here?

Joseph: Well Jeremy, I've come today for a DNA test on our baby, Jesus.

Jeremy: Why's that Joseph? Do you have suspicions that Mary has been seeing someone else.

Joseph: Well it's like this Jeremy. She had the baby 8 weeks ago and the dates just don't add up.

Jeremy: Really Joseph and did Mary have opportunity to pay away from home?

Joseph: Yes Jeremy, not long before we got married, I was away helping some bloke build a big boat, reckoned he was going to make it into a mobile zoo, or something, anyway, I figured that the money would come in handy for the wedding so off I went.
etc, etc, etc.

It would make a good prog though, why hasn't he paid anything to the CSA for the kid's upbringing?



Anyroadup, Plazmuh, you are Nostradamus and I claim my executive box ( + prawn sarnies ) from which to watch the end of the world.[8)]





" 3. Lying will become an art.

17. Liars will be thought of as honest.
18. Honest people will be thought of as liars.
19. False accusations will become the norm."


= That sums up the Liebour party.


"20. It will be hot in spite of rain."

= Centre Parks


"11. Clothes will be of silk.
22. People from bad backgrounds and with bad upbringing will live a life of luxury (material, not peaceful).
50. Assets belonging to the nation will be considered and treated as personal treasures by the rulers."

= M.P.'s

53. The lowest and the worst man in the nation will become its leader.

= Gorgon Brown [:(!]


57. And will obey their wives.
= Yeah and about time too [:(!]

21. Instead of wishing for children, people will pray that they not have children.

= Parents of teenagers!

4. Women will be naked in spite of wearing dresses.

= Not in this bloody weather we won't!!! [:(!]


"42. Women will trade along with men."
= Tesco.

Looks like that guy on the other thread was right, we are being Islamisised [:O] [:P]

Bri_Marwood Posted on 15/09/2009 00:25
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"This all-seeing,all-powerful God of ours must be a right evil XXXXXX if he can sit back and let things like 9/11 and Aberfan happen without "stepping in" to stop it"

Tell me something, do you have kids? If so, did you buy them a bike knowing full well that at some point they are going to fall off and hurt themselves?

I've said it before on here but I suspect one or two of you would enjoy to be in the company of Gram Seed for an hour, a local of yours too.

plazmuh Posted on 15/09/2009 02:09
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If the only thing learnt from 9/11 and the terrible disaster was to never let it happen again, surely that was part of life and the lesson was learnt.
You can,t just blame God just because bad things happen.
Aberfan was a natural disaster that could not have been predicted,Unlike 9/11 the US government still has not given all the camera footage from the Pentagon so people are entitled to seek the footage they are giving the conspiracy theorists all the ammunition to continue their questioning

TheBoy007 Posted on 15/09/2009 08:18
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"Tell me something, do you have kids? If so, did you buy them a bike knowing full well that at some point they are going to fall off and hurt themselves?"

Yes my 6 year old has a Bike and yes he's fell off and hurt himself. But the times i've been able too i've caught him as he's fallen. Unfortunately (or fortunately) i can't be there next to him %100 of the time unlike your supposed God.

ABCD Posted on 15/09/2009 08:21
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plazmuh

I have read some bollox in my time but that takes the biscuit.

Goes to prove that a little cut and pasting is a dangerous thing.

TheBoy007 Posted on 15/09/2009 08:25
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No one can know the future because it doesn't exist. Only the present exists, the past and the future don't.

mm40 Posted on 15/09/2009 09:22
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would enjoy to be in the company of Gram Seed for an hour, yes certainly do from time to time.[^]

Towell Posted on 15/09/2009 09:34
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The second law of thermodynamics only applies to a closed system, the Earth in this case is not a closed system, you are an idiot.

littlejimmy Posted on 15/09/2009 10:21
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Interesting analogy about the bicycle there, but then we don't give our children things like malaria or cancer, which is where it all falls down for me.

Rod100 Posted on 15/09/2009 10:23
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plazmuh - aberfan was a atragedy that could have been stopped fella.


Razmond_HWDR Posted on 15/09/2009 10:25
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but not by a god

Rod100 Posted on 15/09/2009 10:31
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correct. by simple engineering [^]

spurticus Posted on 15/09/2009 10:38
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mm40

Have not seen Gram Since he was a pIIshead, always friendly and affable to me no matter how piised he was, Great to see he's turned his life round though[^]

The positive side of religion eh! who'd have thought it[LOVE]

fatsuma Posted on 15/09/2009 11:47
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Fools in the eyes of the world!

All I can say is that from what I see and read there is a massive difference between what the Bible says about God, and what what people believe it to say about God.

From both sides of the issue.

Reading the Bible, with open eyes, is quite revealing, whatever your preconceptions.

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 15/09/2009 11:49
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are we talking old testiment or new testiment?

spurticus Posted on 15/09/2009 11:51
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Any thoughts on The Bible Codes?


Link: oh shit were fkd

toxic_bob Posted on 15/09/2009 11:52
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Gram is a sound chap. Anyone read his book?

footyteam Posted on 15/09/2009 12:03
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can some religious person, please, please, please, please, explain to me why children are murdered, women are raped, good people get cancer, innocent children in malia are born with aids and no parents??????????????????

Razmond_HWDR Posted on 15/09/2009 12:04
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because nothing is perfection. if we had a perfect world you'd XXXXXXing hate it.

spurticus Posted on 15/09/2009 12:14
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maybe this will help

Luke 18:16 (New International Version)

But Jesus called the children to him and said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Dibzzz Posted on 15/09/2009 12:22
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'because nothing is perfection. if we had a perfect world you'd XXXXXXing hate it'

So isn't heaven supposed to be this perfect place? So you'd hate it.

plazmuh Posted on 15/09/2009 12:29
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You don,t have to wait for those people who would disprove religion because you are already doing a fine job all by yourselves.
Read your own posts and that will tell you you are already trying to convince yourselves with stupid arguments. Why should God intervene on our behalf thats why he gave us the ability to choose.
The biggest lie is probably that Jesus died for our sins as noone but you can atone for your own sins

Dibzzz Posted on 15/09/2009 12:30
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What a load of absolute bollox!

So I 'chose' to have a heart transplant at the age of 32?

plazmuh Posted on 15/09/2009 12:38
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What is bollox mate The fact that your sins are already paid up frount by someone else,
or the fact that you expect God to intervene on our behalf when times are rough.
Youcant just say this is bollox and that is bollox without elaborating slightly, you know give us a tiny clue.[^][:D][:D]

mm40 Posted on 15/09/2009 12:43
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spurticus - very true gram has helped a lot of people since he became a christian, now has a lovely wife and 2 kids works in the prisons all over the UK and helps lads when they come out to rehabilate etc. His book is a good read.

Dibzzz Posted on 15/09/2009 12:48
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'The fact that your sins are already paid up frount by someone else'

That's just talking bollox.

I've done nowt in my life to hurt or damage anyone. So why would your god want to put me amd my family through a load of shyte, and other horrible waste of space b@st@rds get away scott free?

borotmt Posted on 15/09/2009 12:58
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Frightened? and need assurance?
Can't come to terms with the fact that after death you will only exist as you did before your conception?
Frightened of death?
Frightened of life?
Canít accept that "this is it"?
(did I mention the bit about being frightened?)
Wonít accept that if God created man in his own image he must be really conceited?
Frightened / ashamed/ disapproving/ judgemental/confused/ about EVERYTHING?
Call RELIGION now on 666 666666 and seek solace with the thought controllers who are just as frightened as you but better at hiding it.
[:o)][:P][:o)]

footyteam Posted on 15/09/2009 13:12
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"because nothing is perfection. if we had a perfect world you'd XXXXXXing hate it."

thats hilarious.

why would I hate a perfect world?

im 100000000000000000000000000000% sure mothers of dead children might disagree with you you fooking prick

Dibzzz Posted on 15/09/2009 14:53
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Yeah Footy team.

It's that sort of stupid statement that these deluded idiots come up with to justify the exsistance of their god.

Fcuk me, they really do need to do better than that.

footyteam Posted on 15/09/2009 15:09
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really don't mind people believing, hate people thinking your an idiot for not though.

Have you ever been to a christening?

"this child is going to live its life for jesus christ" i heard that once, made me feel sick.

there's more proof in aliens than there is god

Space_Face Posted on 15/09/2009 15:16
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Maybe God is an alien.

TheBoy007 Posted on 15/09/2009 15:59
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"Why should God intervene on our behalf thats why he gave us the ability to choose."

So theres no point in praying then?