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hewielewie Posted on 11/02/2008 20:37
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Has just become a playground for chavs and young lads picking a fight and I for one am becoming sick of trawling through threads, the majority of which are unintelligible, to find one that might be football related.

I know I sound like an old bore but I think that when you have to read the phrase "i will knak you" or "my m8 liam will kik ur f**ing hed in" on a football message board the world has gone to pot.

Please sort it out Rob

PinkPonce Posted on 11/02/2008 20:38
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Here Here.

rubber_soles Posted on 11/02/2008 20:38
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Agreed, some people take it way to far and aren't stopped quick enough.

schemeuk Posted on 11/02/2008 20:39
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Well put hewielewie, this board is rubbish now.

Barely even a post of interest these days.

FuchsOff Posted on 11/02/2008 20:42
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Norrr m8 wat u on about u daft f***er or sumfin.

I don't think I can keep that up without my brain hurting.

hewielewie Posted on 11/02/2008 20:43
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I think this comment on the Untypical Boro Message Board says it all

Sarah J wrote...

Serious question for Mr Vickers to ask Rob Nichols..

Why does he persevere in associating himself with the once excellent but now pathetic juveniles playground that still goes under the name of Fly Me To The Moon?

Is Mr Nichols not too "long in the tooth" to be associated with this often obscene place or is he of similar mind and intelligence as the nutcases who inhabit that nasty place?

Also why do Middlesbrough FC allow this board to operate in their name as its users makes the club and the town look like its populated by 3rd world nincompoops?

Its time to either clean up or get rid of the once excellent but now pathetic FMTTM message board as it is a typical example of how standards in this country have nosedived in recent years.

**AV writes: There is no question that the tone has changed on there but really these are questions you should ask directly on the Fly Me board.


Rodney_Trotter Posted on 11/02/2008 20:55
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You could always start your very own interesting threads

moxzin Posted on 11/02/2008 20:57
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It just gets over-run sometimes by the inane and the offensive.

camperman Posted on 11/02/2008 20:58
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one mention of boro or a slight dig on the jawdee site and the posts removed but on here seems you can do what the fu*k you like.
its getting full of pirmary school kids on here

ako_killa Posted on 11/02/2008 20:58
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im speakin from the heart when i say this now,but not once on any thread have i started anything,people look at my name asume im a chav and insult me,and thats no word of a lie,il just be commentin in a thread about football,and someone will make a immature remark to me,my only option is to say something back , there you go!

davo44 Posted on 11/02/2008 21:01
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akokilla - in that post you have summed up exactly Sarah J 's point.

RedSectorA Posted on 11/02/2008 21:01
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You don't have to say anything back - but thanks for posting a reasonable comment.

Obviously, by reasonable, I meant comprehensible.

guisBOROugh Posted on 11/02/2008 21:04
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I agree this board is getting daft. I like the way everyone doesnt constantly talk about football which can be refreshing, but It is rather childish sometimes.

borolad259 Posted on 11/02/2008 21:12
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I have discovered a brilliant way to negotiate this minefield of frippery and fakery. Merely by checking the thread originator's name against my limited memory banks, and also by taking a co-efficient from the Topic heading, I find that I can filter out most of the tosh, and just read the stuff that I signed up for in the first place. I will be patenting this method in good time.

grantus Posted on 11/02/2008 22:23
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Shut up borolad, you tart. [;)]

red_rebel Posted on 11/02/2008 22:28
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I despair of this board now. It used to be vibrant community with something for everyone and plenty of opportunity for the high-brow, low-brow and insane to co-exist around a common identity. It was quirky, informative, essential reading and I was proud to be part of it.

The key was that the majority took some kind of responsibility for it. It policed itself. And when it didn't the old "hated clique of PC bed wetters" were on hand to take swift action.

Now any idiot, racist and troll can run riot, libels and graphic sexual language are thrown around with abandon and there appears to be no coherent moderation at all.

I go days without even reading now and when I do I find it heart-breaking that ignorance rules the day.




elnino1 Posted on 11/02/2008 22:28
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Who the hell is this Sarah J, sounds like a right pompous slag.

grantus Posted on 11/02/2008 22:35
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red_rebel - I do miss the interesting, educational, enlightening and often hilarious debates that used to be a regular, practically daily feature of this message board.

Surely the board is a victim of it's own success, to a certain degree.

There are surely a hell of a lot more posters these days, but as there is probably a more widespread variation of posters, in terms of age, intelligence, political leaning, sophistication, etc. It's moved into the centre.

What would you rather, that it remained elitist?

Surely not with your outlook, you wouldn't, would you?

Oooo Posted on 11/02/2008 22:36
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Come on it is not that bad. As someone else said you can easily spot the rubbish threads and just not read them. There is still good stuff on here or I would not keep coming back. I think that quoted comment from another board '... it is a typical example of how standards in this country have nosedived in recent years' sums up that board quite well - I dont want to be there

red_rebel Posted on 11/02/2008 22:52
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grantus:

I never thought the old board was in any way elitist. What made it work was that it was inclusive and that just about every strand of thought and mindset was not only tolerated but encouraged. A debate was allowed to unfold and develop its own dynamic and different voices added depth and breadth to the body of knowledge.

Now the voices just shout people down. It is just white noise.

For me the key is the concept of people having a stake. The old community grew organically so people felt part of it. It was like any society and it was unspoken but understood that everyone had some kind of responsibility to maintain some kind of order and that they collectively reaped the benefits of that.

That is why trolls and idiots were challenged and chased off, because there were parameters which most people accepted, unwritten rules that governed how the society works.

Now, after all the moves, all the turmoil and the disintegration of any identity very few posters have any stake at all (apart from those who derive income). There are few rules if any, no culture, no direction and no discernable social conscience.

Call me a sentimental old fool but I find it all very sad.


Piggy Posted on 11/02/2008 22:59
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Never mind, it will be light nights soon.

The kids will be off out to play kerby and the older folks can get down to the allotment.

grantus Posted on 11/02/2008 23:00
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I see your point and agree to a certain extent.

The shame is not those that have arrived for me, the shame is those that have left or don't really contribute anymore, hence the "lowering of standards" if you will.

Piggy Posted on 11/02/2008 23:01
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Thanks Grantus, I knew you would understand. [;)]

grantus Posted on 11/02/2008 23:05
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You know I was talking to our esteemed elder, red_rebel warrior, over there, you little scamp Piggy.

How are you anyway? Still in Spain?

king_hellfire Posted on 11/02/2008 23:08
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I had been posting on a few football forums in the past before i discovered this board(called Rivals at the time)and the thing i have found with this board that never went on with the other forums is that people only seem to want to reach the 100 posts mark on here, which tends to be achieved easier by posting controversial topics rather than football related or more constructive ones.

Piggy Posted on 11/02/2008 23:08
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I'm fine, back home for a while, although I'm looking to try and get to the spanish cup final in april. I've been suffering from chipirone withdrawal.

red_rebel Posted on 11/02/2008 23:14
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No, I don't buy that. It is not about individuals, old or new. It is about the structure. It is about "ownership" and about the "culture" of the board and how individuals relate to it.

Before there was a feeling that it was a collective and organic community, as it was. Rob nominally had legal responsibility for it but it had grown from the old WSC board and Tim Lloyd's mailing list. No-one was really in control. We were all in control. It was a genuine example of internet democratic populism.

That has gone. Now, for all the talk about 'by the fans, for the fans' it is quite clearly a commercial enterprise and is owned lock, stock and barrel by individuals with one eye on the money.

I suspect that a commercial imperative has encouraged a quantity rather than quality ethic and that has led directly to a relaxation of moderation that allows abuse, threats and sexual content so long as it puts bums on seats. It is like scrapping Newsnight to show Jeremy Kyle late night unleashed.









grantus Posted on 11/02/2008 23:19
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Ah, I'm with you, sorry, wasn't getting your point there. So, a victim of it's own success then.

Grumpy_Paul Posted on 11/02/2008 23:27
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It's difficult to explain what I mean but I've never viewed this board, as is and was, as a football board but more of a community board where football was the main focal point with Boro as the common denominator.

Grantus makes a good point insofar as the board is on the wane as much for the loss of quality posters as it is for the incoming illiterate idiots.

I've only been on this board for four years or so and have seen the decline in standards quite noticeably, particularly this past year.

Come on you old hands, reclaim the board and get posting again

grantus Posted on 11/02/2008 23:34
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That's bloody right, Grumps.

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 11/02/2008 23:37
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"I go days without even reading now " Is that a bad thing? Besides if that's what all the old members are doing then it explains the shift in tone. I suspect there's a generation who were young when the board got going and now have to accept that they are older and things change. Those who, like me, were already old when they first came across the board are used to that already. The internet is more accessible now and more closely reflects the whole community, warts and all. Having said all that, if this is what it's like now, I'm not looking forward to the summer on here.

Ivan_Drago Posted on 11/02/2008 23:40
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I agree with Hewielewiw he does sound like an old bore.

loislane5 Posted on 11/02/2008 23:46
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You are entitled to your opinions (as am I) but as someone who works with/for Rob (voluntarily for over a year but anyone starts on the 'money thing' again) I have to say he has to generate income -don't we all? but that is categorically not his main concern. Fmttm IS 'by the fans for the fans' but it is sometimes spoilt by a minority of posters. The problem is as Rob tends to be out of his office for large amounts of time-getting his fanzine printed, attending community events with the players and bringing you lot exclusive interviews it is very difficult to constantly check every thread posted on here for offensive and defamatory comments. Once found these threads are removed but posting this sort of idiotic and offensive posts then complaining because Rob hasn't deleted them quick enough is just ridiculous!-End of rant

Ivan_Drago Posted on 11/02/2008 23:55
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Calm down pet.

grantus Posted on 11/02/2008 23:55
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Aye, I'm all for the, if you don't like it, don't read it brigade.

If folk want a different type of conversation, they should champion it, nurture it, invite people along to join in.

It's like saying that the atmosphere at the football is rubbish these days, yet, you go by yourself and boo all game.

loislane5 Posted on 11/02/2008 23:58
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perfectly calm, thank you

loislane5 Posted on 11/02/2008 23:58
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like the Rocky reference too

Space_Face Posted on 12/02/2008 00:00
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Is it correct that Steve Goldby is a Leeds fan?

moxzin Posted on 12/02/2008 00:03
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I don't think it needs to be over-analysed. There were dozens of people who used to post who don't anymore. They've been replaced by new people. Not for better or for worse, but its bound to be different and not feel the same. If there was any trend I suppose its that there used to be loads more posters who were part of the fanzine, but now its a lot more centrifugal.

grantus Posted on 12/02/2008 00:04
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Even if he is....

If I can change. And you can change. Everybody can change!

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 09:11
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Steve appears to have a patholigcal hatred for Leeds so I doubt that very much. Does this site have a Leeds board?

Pauluka Posted on 12/02/2008 09:17
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Ah bless, I fear for those that take things to heart!

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 09:31
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Their used to be a middle ground on the board.

Their were threads for all the self appointed intelligentsa (sp) to spout political spin without a hint of hypocrisy abd then their were the threads were a bit of banter was knocked around by the likes of Vinny, Pauluka, Lisbon, me etc.

Even when Lisbon used to turn up with yet another username everyone joined in with the pretence.


Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 09:33
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There Clyde not their.

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 09:37
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At least you got the name right this time numbnuts.

rubber_soles Posted on 12/02/2008 09:41
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To be fair on rob, when he was in sole charge of the old rivals board, he wouldn't have put up with so many t1t ends that come on here.

SteveGoldby Posted on 12/02/2008 09:42
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Sarah J from the Vickers blog is not a real person. It's a 'plant' by the Gazette to undermime this board as they are quite keen to build a better Internet user base and the only way they can do it is to attack this board and try and convince the users that there is somewhere better.

Funny how out of the critics above, I don't recognise any of the user names and most joined only yesterday. Coincidence?

This board is no different to how it ever was, apart from the fact that it works much better than when it was on Rivals. Don't believe the propaganda, especially as it is perpetrated by half-wits.

marktheborofan Posted on 12/02/2008 09:43
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I must admit, I am not really a regular user of this board as it used to be terribly cliquey. I think it's a lot better now than it was before.

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 09:45
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"Sarah J from the Vickers blog is not a real person. It's a 'plant' by the Gazette to undermime this board as they are quite keen to build a better Internet user base and the only way they can do it is to attack this board and try and convince the users that there is somewhere better."

[:D]

Steve, do you think someone is following you as well ?

SteveGoldby Posted on 12/02/2008 09:48
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Me? A Leeds fan. That's just the stupidest thing that anyone ever made up about me.


captain5 Posted on 12/02/2008 09:49
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Now, there's a challenge set, Steve. [;)] [:D]

We'll leave the local rivals supporting to Geordie Rob I think.

SteveGoldby Posted on 12/02/2008 09:52
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Come on Marlon - think about it. Why go on another site to criticise? Surely you would it on here? Besides, there is nobody registered on here with that name and we've never heard of her before, and she spelled Rob's name correctly as well.

A blind man on a galloping horse can see it for what it really is.

Anybody heard of a Sarah J who is a regular Boro message board user? No, of course not. She lives near Hans Christian Anderson apparently.

Dr_Evil Posted on 12/02/2008 09:54
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Its a message board.

People need to realise that. If people dont like the topics, dont friging read them.

Some people are far too stuck up their own arse.

SteveGoldby Posted on 12/02/2008 09:54
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"We'll leave the local rivals supporting to Geordie Rob I think."

Another urban myth Captain. No truth in that whatsoever. Sarah J must have made that one up.

You must be thinking of Anthony Vickers who most definitely IS a Geordie fan.

rob_fmttm Posted on 12/02/2008 09:56
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Surely Mackem Bob... That was a joke once from Roker Park when I arrived to find they had split the away end in two - Miniature G and Fischer had to go through one gate and I went through another - they reckoned I had been funnelled into the home end.

I don't know about things having gone downhill - everything changes over time. We have different writers in the fanzine every season, different readers too. The same applies here - it's obvious, natural and I'm very thankful for it.

Ever since I remember people have been talking about the good old days of the message board. Nostalgia is not like it used to be.


MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 09:56
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"Come on Marlon - think about it"

Can't be bothered and I think you're thinking too much about it tbh.

Was that harry callaghan in the Central with you on saturday btw ?

red_rebel Posted on 12/02/2008 10:00
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Which of the critics above only joined yesterday as part of some deliberate Gazette smear campaign? The only name I don't recognise from 'back in the day' is loislane and she is supporting rob quite stridently.

Given the stick Vickers, Paylor and the Gazette as a whole has taken on here over the years (and still championed the board and the fanzine in all they do) I hardly think one isolated comment on there constitutes a campaign to undermine you.


SteveGoldby Posted on 12/02/2008 10:00
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I haven't seen Harry since the day of the West Ham game Marlon. He doesn't get to as many games these days as he's into different things at the moment.

zaphod Posted on 12/02/2008 10:02
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The Board goes through ups & downs. It's not particularly worse at the moment than it used to be. There were always at least 50% of the threads that were not worth reading. I used to hate the long, tedious punning threads & the discussions about music I'd never heard of, so in that sense it's improved.

I liked the politics & philosophy type threads, but these days those descend into yah, boo, sucks almost instantly.

sasboro1 Posted on 12/02/2008 10:07
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It's never been the same since rob and steve G teamed up, i mean people like Ivan_in_Drag/capio have nothing to go on claiming they were enemies.

Think like most things in life, it will change over time, people come and go. Everyone has their favourite era. Poeple grow older, when i started posting 7 years ago some people on here would be barely in their teens, others still at school. Its myu favourite era with boro was 1986-89 and the linthorpe was the best pub about.

Overall i think it is difficult to keep up to the standards of how this board was used in the uefa cup seasons.

I generally try to keep my posts relevant to football and boro. 7 years on i still get shouted down and get abuse. One thing i would like to see is less vulgar swearing. especially directed at people who dont agree with someone elses post.

mm40 Posted on 12/02/2008 10:09
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The majority post decent topics on here and then there are a few wannabee gangsters who like to impress people with their association of local hard men. I agree with the first poster, the board should remove the threads and ban the idiots if it continues.

rob_fmttm Posted on 12/02/2008 10:12
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As an aside there were 28 people joining this site yesterday and so far this morning there have already been 3 new people signing up.

I don't know about Sarah J - she is entitled to her opinion of course. It is a strange comment to be so personal. I don't think I have changed what I do - I'm still firmly on the side of fan sitting in the stands rather than journalist. eg I was in the stand for Alves unveiling rather than on the pitch with the journalists. I go to press events to be an ear for the fans and support the community events particularly because I think they're exceptionally important.

As for Anthony Vickers he remains my favourite sports writer. I don't believe he has any deep seated club allegiances but lives on Teesside with a Boro season ticket supporting family and manages to articulate many of our feelings superbly.

I liked Newcastle for about 6 months when I was a small kid and had a photo of Super Mac on my bedroom wall. That is no secret but at that time I was much more into Captain Scarlet, Thunderbirds and the Flintstones than football. They've always been fantasy island.


Dr_Evil Posted on 12/02/2008 10:12
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You'll never guess who I know....

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 10:17
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"I liked Newcastle for about 6 months when I was a small kid and had a photo of Super Mac on my bedroom wall. That is no secret"

Wants to be a secret [:O]

So let me get this straight, this board is now owned/ran by a closet Geordie & a leeds former glory supporter.




Dr_Evil Posted on 12/02/2008 10:19
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I feel sick.

captain5 Posted on 12/02/2008 10:20
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Some urban myths aren't so mythical it seems......

kermit Posted on 12/02/2008 10:31
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Can we ban rob from this site please? [;)]

rob_fmttm Posted on 12/02/2008 10:35
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I put the Geordie story in an annual once and it was on the old site as "I Confess."

I saw the light, fortunately about the age of 8 or something like that.

Chris_From_Pitchside Posted on 12/02/2008 10:44
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I had a Sheffield Wednesday top as a kid once. It was the season where we didn't change the ICI top so for my birthday I got a different strip. I NEVER kissed the badge though.

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 10:47
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"It's never been the same since rob and steve G teamed up, i mean people like Ivan_in_Drag/capio have nothing to go on claiming they were enemies."

Apart from the fact that I have never done that, we could wax lyrical on just how dull you are for weeks.

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 10:52
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Can someone pass Rob a bigger spade please.


Critical_Bill Posted on 12/02/2008 10:53
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Marlon, for the patio?

sasboro1 Posted on 12/02/2008 10:56
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behave capio, you always used to bang on about steve g and rob being enemies. your certainly more dull than me. atleast your fantasies have stopped now

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:00
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boroboy [:D]

Sas I never did, I'm afraid your royal dullness.

sasboro1 Posted on 12/02/2008 11:05
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stop lying capio, you use to think rob and steve G didnt get on

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:09
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Sas, apart from the fact you know nothing of the situation.

I never said that. Repeating it over and over wont change things.

I may have said they were rivals, as they were, but never commented on their personal relationship as I neither knew nor cared.

Get back to charging students 50 a week for a room with 8 bedrooms per terrace.

ridsdale Posted on 12/02/2008 11:09
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"It was a genuine example of internet democratic populism."


Oh yea, and Stalin was good to his mum.


Pauluka Posted on 12/02/2008 11:09
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Too much whinging, get on with it or go

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 11:14
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Ivan, sas1 is indeed correct.

You have more faces than the Town Hall clock.

red_rebel Posted on 12/02/2008 11:18
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But it was Rids.

Everyone made a contribution. You were great, very funny art terror. You only got banned because you deliberately tried to as a prank. Then you found you like pushing the boundaries and rebranded yourself and made that your USP. It made you.

sasboro1 Posted on 12/02/2008 11:18
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haha capio, why lie. everyone remembers at the time. It made you look stupid. you are making yourself look more stupid by lying even more. changing usernames doesnt mean it wasnt you

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:18
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Clyde, I'm using my diplomacy skills...

However I never change my mind to appease minnion Slum Lords like Sas - I know what I said.

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:19
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Sas I do object to being called "stupid" by somebody unable to spell you're or at least. Monkey.

sasboro1 Posted on 12/02/2008 11:21
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haha! he we go. lose an arguement and resorts to calling people monkeys. is that the best you can do?

what ever happened to that property business you claimed to have in croatia amongst many things

wokingmassive Posted on 12/02/2008 11:24
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I agree, this board has gone down hill whilst I have been away. However I am back now, so it will soon be picking up and will be tons better.


Fact.

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 11:26
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"Clyde, I'm using my diplomacy skills..."

aka coming running back with your tail between your legs.


Maidenhead-RED Posted on 12/02/2008 11:28
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welcome back woking !!!!!!!!!!!

wokingmassive Posted on 12/02/2008 11:28
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Stop that.

You shouldn't be looking at my tail. I like you, but just as a friend.

stuar_tripley Posted on 12/02/2008 11:28
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agreed

wokingmassive Posted on 12/02/2008 11:37
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Lots of people are warbling on that there are not many intellectual bedates on this board, and yesterday there was a thread about how people wiped their arse - I laughed so much I nearly dropped my fish and chips on the floor.

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:37
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"aka coming running back with your tail between your legs."

I fail to see how my stance has changed, I like the way one person runs the board and I think the other is heavy handed and am banned as often as swing from tree to tree.

I used to enjoy my ding dongs with the clique, with you it is just gutter level. Meh.

you left for block17 and came back... *squirm*

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 11:45
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"you left for block17 and came back... *squirm* "

Nope. Incorrect answer fruitcake.

Never left, always floated between the two as I'm doing now.

What i've never done though is consistently slate the original owner of this site and then agreed not to be a naughty boy if he'll let me back on.

You are a laughing stock of this board.



Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:50
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I did no such thing, as usual you have no idea what you're talking about. I promised to be good due to some outside complaint. I couldn't care less if I am banned.

You spat your dummy and left for block17 I remember it well.

Hilariously however - you used another name 'warwick_hunt' and I found you on a swinging site.

A crowning moment of this site.

The_same_as_before Posted on 12/02/2008 11:51
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I miss Blotonthelandscape

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:52
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I don't.

SundayMonday-HabibBeye Posted on 12/02/2008 11:52
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'Hilariously however - you used another name 'warwick_hunt' and I found you on a swinging site.'


[:O]

Pauluka Posted on 12/02/2008 11:53
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Marlon/Ivan

FFS you two. Can't you just get along? I hate seeing you argue as it has a knock on affect on me. As I like you both. No, I love you both

That'll be all

rob_fmttm Posted on 12/02/2008 11:54
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Seems the thread has drifted off course some what - is it symptomatic of the Message Board's decline or merely representative of the way things shift and change through time?

Critical_Bill Posted on 12/02/2008 11:54
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Marlon, was that you?
I thought I was getting abuse by a random.

Brick_Tamland Posted on 12/02/2008 11:55
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Nostalgia just ain't what it used to be.

The_same_as_before Posted on 12/02/2008 11:55
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How do you find someone on a swinging site? google?

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 11:56
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"You spat your dummy and left for block17 I remember it well."

Nope wrong again your highness. Never flounced off like you have.

"Hilariously however - you used another name 'warwick_hunt' and I found you on a swinging site."

*sighs* Sorry to dissapoint again, but Warwick_Hunt on here isn't me. B17 yes and I've only posted a few times, but not on here. Maybe you should spend more time building your empire rather than browsing swinging sites.







Lurkalot Posted on 12/02/2008 11:57
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What's wrong with going on a swinging site?

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 11:58
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nah Bill not me. Why would I hide behind another username to give out abuse when I'm quite comfortable doing it with this one.

And Geordie_Rob's right. its veering off at a nasty tangent now so I'll leave it at that.

Is that ok with you Mr_Bliss ? (aka Ivan).

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 12:01
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I see Marlon's making a sharp exit, wise move.

Capybara Posted on 12/02/2008 12:12
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'However I never change my mind to appease minnion Slum Lords like Sas - I know what I said.


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Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 11:19 Email this Message | Reply
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Sas I do object to being called "stupid" by somebody unable to spell you're or at least. Monkey. '

'minion'

[:)] The_same_as_before

hewielewie Posted on 12/02/2008 12:16
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Whilst I am glad this thread has garnered so many responses I am saddened to see it has been reduced to name calling like so many others on here.

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 12:20
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Was it cold in the ground this morning Capy?

Pauluka Posted on 12/02/2008 12:26
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Hewie, P*** off you tart [:)]

ridsdale Posted on 12/02/2008 12:26
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Rebel your argument is a bit like saying that punk music ruined rock music by undermining all those atrocious intellectual heavy rock bands.


When in fact punk gave rock and roll back to the people.

king_hellfire Posted on 12/02/2008 12:27
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'Whilst I am glad this thread has garnered so many responses...'


Going back to my observation earlier on this thread, what is this whole obsession with getting 100+ replies.

Pauluka Posted on 12/02/2008 12:29
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"Going back to my observation earlier on this thread, what is this whole obsession with getting 100+ replies."

It makes you the King of the Castle. It's has a great feeling

The_same_as_before Posted on 12/02/2008 12:32
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Punk rock was middle class media commercial drivel, there were loads of punks in Nunthorpe, none where I lived in Berwick Hills. Skinheads yes, punks nope.

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 12:33
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We should have a wrestling tag team, Ridders and I can take on Gillandi and FatJimmy, put it on a live stream, sell online passes 10, that will pick things up.

Pauluka Posted on 12/02/2008 12:33
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10? oooo errrr

Critical_Bill Posted on 12/02/2008 12:49
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Maybe Marlon has taken Capio's primate taunts on board, and now sees himself as 'The King of the swingers'

ridsdale Posted on 12/02/2008 12:53
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"Punk rock was middle class media commercial drivel, there were loads of punks in Nunthorpe, none where I lived in Berwick Hills. Skinheads yes, punks nope."

There was a lot of hype, but there were loads of punk bands in the Boro.

Was Berwick Hills really that backward?

I know there were still guys in East Cleveland playing James Dean on 125cc Bantams like.

Holgateoldskool Posted on 12/02/2008 12:57
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Quality not quantity should become the norm.The thing is threads like " What are you having for tea" can often get greater traffic than a thread questioning,examining a true football-related mater.

The obvious answer ( said many times on here) if you don't like it don't read it.

MarlonD Posted on 12/02/2008 13:02
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Right turn

Uncle_harry Posted on 12/02/2008 13:06
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this board has always been like a pub where you can be aware of all the conversations that go on.Instead of just the one's you'd be interested in. In a pub there's some people you get on with and like - some people who you'd probably like if you got to know them and some people that you'd never get on with in a million years.

I think Ridders is a tedious prejudiced bully who gets his kicks from sneering at others. Ridders thinks I'm a boring middle class left wing something or other -(even though I'm a council house working class lad from Saltersgill) -I generally ignore threads he starts and he ignores mine - we clash now and then when it amuses us to have a pop at each other but generally I stay clear of him because I dislike his board persona & he dislikes mine (He might be a top bloke in real life)

I guess you pick and choose your threads and ignore the dross.


ridsdale Posted on 12/02/2008 13:15
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Sarah J is obviously that round faced young boy from Saltburn who used to be an admin on here but now wears a "Teesside University" sweat top around East Cleveland.

It does not impress the girls of Loftus, they just think that Boyes has run out of University of Califonia tops.

Critical_Bill Posted on 12/02/2008 13:16
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[:D]

Trevor Posted on 12/02/2008 13:20
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This is a great thread, it's just like the old days.

Pauluka Posted on 12/02/2008 13:22
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"Just like the old days"

When this board was so special

ridsdale Posted on 12/02/2008 13:23
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What a pile of prejudice there harry. I have never mentioned anything regarding council houses about or with you. I was born in one as it happens.

I just happened to say that you were a bit boring once. I have been followed by a mini-march of bitter Harry's ever since. You need to get over things rather than dragging them along for ever.


"I think Ridders is a tedious prejudiced bully who gets his kicks from sneering at others. Ridders thinks I'm a boring middle class left wing something or other -(even though I'm a council house working class lad from Saltersgill) -I generally ignore threads he starts and he ignores mine - we clash now and then when it amuses us to have a pop at each other but generally I stay clear of him because I dislike his board persona & he dislikes mine (He might be a top bloke in real life)"


Trevor Posted on 12/02/2008 13:31
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Pauluka, I should have put a after that post.

Uncle_harry Posted on 12/02/2008 13:35
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'once'? - we've been having a little pop at each other for years on this board Ridders, If I got it wrong about the 'middle class' jibes I cheerfully apologize - it must have been the other half of the double act although He normally sneers because I sound working class.



I don't 'follow you' though I use this board sometimes and so do you - I read some of the things that you type and disagree with much of it, I usually dont respond though.

I was just using our mutual (cyber - not real world) disrespect to illustrate that the board is has and will be a mixture of people viewpoints interests and styles thats all, calm down chucky egg

I agree with you on this 39th game bollox though so we'll have do do summat about that

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 13:39
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Saltersgill makes sense Harry. I did tell you I could hear the unmistakable inner Middlesbrough council estate twang.

Uncle_harry Posted on 12/02/2008 13:42
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what's wrong with a person from an 'inner Middlesbrough council estate?' Or how they speak?

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 13:59
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It offends my ears. Other than that nowt like.

red_rebel Posted on 12/02/2008 14:02
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The problem with punk is that while it was brilliant creative explosion it was very short lived.

Then as the more discerning went down other cutting edge roads the army of empty idiots were left in their Sid Vicious action figure uniforms while "the man" co-opted the movement to advertise burgers and the sad relics were left in a nightmare of 50 year olds in bondage trousers jerkily pogoing to yet another UK Subs reunion gig. Tired old cartoon characters going through the motions and singing the same old songs.

Is that what you meant Rids?


Uncle_harry Posted on 12/02/2008 14:03
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In what way do you find that how people speak from the poorer parts Middlesbrough 'offends' your ears?

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 14:04
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Dunno n tha, just gets on my phuqing nerves like know worra mean?

Diasboro_Dan Posted on 12/02/2008 14:06
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I've just seen a helicopter.

ridsdale Posted on 12/02/2008 14:15
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No problem Harry.

ridsdale Posted on 12/02/2008 14:16
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Yes Rebel, long winded as usual, but precise.

Uncle_harry Posted on 12/02/2008 14:29
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cheers Ridders

As for my accent - I'm proud of coming from Middlesbrough and I'm proud of my working class family background. My ancestors helped build Middlesbrough and I feel very lucky to speak the way many Teesside people speak. My family lived in the village of Acklam during the time of the English Civil war more than a century before Middlesbrough as a town existed.

Because someone speaks a certain way I think it's wrong to assume that they are inarticulate as implied by your presumably comic statement'

'Dunno n tha, just gets on my phuqing nerves like know worra mean'


If that 'offends' you I'm sad that you are so sensitive. It must be hard for you suppporting the Boro and having such sensitivity. I guess your options are, put up with it, get more tolerant or spend as little time as you can on Teesside.

Good luck with it all anyway

know worra mean, like?


Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 14:31
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Aye mate F***en boss n tha.

Uncle_harry Posted on 12/02/2008 15:05
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'mate'? - that's not going to happen..


...like

Ivan_Drago Posted on 12/02/2008 15:10
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Ere ya doylem calm down like!

Uncle_harry Posted on 12/02/2008 15:16
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The Teeside based perjorative 'Doyle', started in our school where a harmless but eccentric lad acted in a daft way sometimes. His surname was adopted a word meaning daft in St Thomas' school.

Boromart can confirm this

zaphod Posted on 12/02/2008 15:23
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The problem with punk was that it was basically rubbish music. Once the image got stale, people realised that. Bit like the Spice Girls, really.

rob_fmttm Posted on 12/02/2008 15:34
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Cant agree with that at all zaphod - punk was exciting music. Why droll noodling away for 15 minutes when you can cut to the chase in under 3,?

hewielewie Posted on 12/02/2008 15:40
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Some people might like a 15 minute noodle